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Earnings Call: Q2 2021

May 19, 2021

Speaker 1

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Keysight Technologies Fiscal Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Gabriel, and I will be your lead operator today. After the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. Call. Please note that this call is being recorded today, Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 1:30 pm Pacific Time.

Speaker 2

I would

Speaker 1

now like to hand the conference over to John Carey, Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Carey.

Speaker 3

Thank you, and welcome, everyone, to Keysight's Q2 earnings conference call for fiscal year 2021. Call. Joining me are Ron Nersesian, Keysight's Chairman, President and CEO and Neil Daugherty, our CFO. Call. Joining us in the Q and A session will be Satish Danasekaran, Chief Operating Officer and Mark Wallace, Senior Vice President of Global Sales.

Call. You can find the press release and information to supplement today's discussion on our website at investor. Keysight.com. Call. While there, please click on the link for quarterly reports under the Financial Information tab.

There you will find an investor presentation along with Keysight's segment results. Call. Following this conference call, we will post a copy of the prepared remarks to the website. Today's comments by Ron and Neil will refer to non GAAP financial measures. We will also make references to core growth, which excludes the impact of currency movements and acquisitions or divestitures completed within the last 12 months.

You will find the most directly comparable GAAP financial metrics and reconciliations on our website. All comparisons are on a year over year basis unless specifically noted otherwise. We will make forward looking statements about the financial performance of the company on today's call.

Speaker 4

Call. These statements are subject to

Speaker 3

risks and uncertainties and are only valid as of today. The company assumes no obligation to update them. Call. Please review the company's recent SEC filings for a more complete picture of our risks and other factors. Lastly, I would highlight Management is scheduled to participate in upcoming virtual investor conferences hosted by JPMorgan, Stifel, Baird, UBS and Bank of America.

Call. And now I will turn the call over to Ron.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Jason, and thank you everyone for joining us. Call. Keysight delivered a record quarter and we are entering the second half of the year with momentum. Our broad portfolio of differentiated solutions continues to drive growth across a diverse set of growing markets. Today, I'll focus my comments on 3 key headlines.

Call. 1st, we delivered outstanding Q2 results with all time record orders, revenue and free cash flow. Call. 2nd, Keysight is enabling leading edge disruptive innovation around the world. Our solutions have significant differentiation call and contribute significant value to customers, which is fueling our growth for the long term.

3rd, while we are managing longer lead times component availability, our leading market position, strong customer relationships and supply chain resiliency give us the confidence and our ability to deliver on our commitments. Now let's take a deeper look across our 2nd quarter performance across both business segments. Call. Record orders of $1,300,000,000 grew 22%. Revenue grew 36 call to 1,200,000,000 which was an all time high.

We delivered 2nd quarter gross margin of 64%, call. Operating margin of 26% and earnings of $1.44 which was above the high end of our guidance and represents call. 85% year over year earnings growth. We also achieved record free cash flow of $369,000,000 call. Over the last 12 months, Keysight generated just over $1,000,000,000 of free cash flow that we've deployed through approximately 500,000,000 in acquisitions and 455,000,000 in share repurchases.

We continue to be active and disciplined call in our capital deployment. 2nd quarter strength was broad based with double digit order and revenue growth across all markets and regions. Call. Outstanding results by both business segments demonstrates the power of Keysight's diversified portfolio in 5 gs and beyond. Call.

Our Electronic Industrial Solutions Group achieved its 3rd consecutive quarter of record revenue with strong double digit order and revenue growth call. In general electronics, semiconductor and automotive, the breadth of our contributions across multiple industries call is exemplified by our double digit order and revenue growth in our general electronics business. With ongoing investment in broad digital transformation, including advanced consumer electronics, digital healthcare and industrial IoT, call. Keysight is enabling innovation and capturing technology inflections for the IoT ecosystem. Strong demand for our semiconductor solutions drove record orders and revenue.

Customer investment in advanced technology nodes remains high, while capacity is expanding for mature processes to address surging global semiconductor demands. Call. In automotive, record orders resulted from improved macro conditions and increasing investments in EV and AV Technologies. Call. Keysight Solutions portfolio for the automotive market continues to expand with new advanced technologies such as

Speaker 2

call. AC power emulation, millimeter

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wave radar, power semiconductor technology, automotive Ethernet, call. See the V2X and cybersecurity software systems. As the reinvention of automotive ecosystems continues, call. Keysight is enabling the disruptive innovation of new mobility technologies. Our communication solutions group call.

Achieved record orders and delivered double digit order and revenue growth in commercial communications and aerospace, defense and government. Call. Aerospace, Defense and Government revenue grew 46%, driven by strong demand in space, satellite, call. Signal monitoring, 5 gs and early 6 gs research applications. Keysight's engagement with key industry players remain strong.

We recently enabled the large prime contractors first test bed and have secured multiple 5 gs solutions wins in the aerospace, defense and government markets. Commercial communications orders and revenue both grew double digits call. It's driven by the ongoing investments in 5 gs and 400 gig, 800 gig Ethernet solutions for data centers. Call. As 5 gs progresses and deployments drive sustained investment, we are uniquely positioned to capture the opportunities ahead system scales.

Recent engagements include a broadening set of new customers as well as key industry players such as NEC, call. Fujitsu and MediaTek. We continue to maximize the 5 gs lifecycle opportunity and lead the industry with differentiated 5 gs solutions. Call. In addition, the success of our application layer strategy is reflected in the strong demand for new technologies such as ORAN and call.

Business expansion in new end to end verticals. Our ability to provide complete solutions for call. Network protocol test, security and visibility is enabling us to solve many challenges across the industry. Call. In another area of disruption, we continue to advance our long term initiative to enable the Quantum revolution.

We are growing our Quantum engagements call. Key customers worldwide. We also expanded our Quantum Solutions portfolio this quarter with the acquisition of Quantum Benchmark, call, which brings deep expertise in the performance validation software for quantum computing. Call. Keysight Software Centric Solutions and higher value services continue to drive differentiation and recurring revenue growth.

Call. For the Q2 in a row, software and services each delivered double digit order and revenue growth. Beyond innovation, execution and call. Climate and diversity provides us with a competitive advantage. We recently published our annual CSR report, call, which includes progress towards our prior goals and the announcement of our commitment to achieving net 0 emissions in the company operations by 2,040.

Call. We are working to set interim science based targets to ensure our progress towards this goal. Call. Diversity and inclusion are also embodied in our Keysight leadership model. As a CEO priority, we have specific goals and actions that will be tracked call.

Our leadership team and the Board of Directors. Diversity and inclusion brief will be published this month that describes our long standing D and I philosophy as well as the details of our strategies and goals. While there is more work to do, Keysight remains steadfast in our commitment to CSR and building a better planet. Call. As we look ahead, we are encouraged by the strong demand for our differentiated solutions while managing the longer lead times and component availability constraints.

Call. Our in house high performance semiconductor fab and the strength of our order fulfillment team are helping us manage these near term supply challenges call and give us confidence in our ability to navigate them entering the second half of this year. In summary, call. Keysight is enabling disruptive innovation across multiple waves of technology with a decades long runway ahead of us. Call.

Our execution in the face of many dynamic challenges this past year is a testament to the Keysight leadership model, our employees call and the breadth and depth of our customers. Now, I would like to turn it over to Neil to discuss our financial performance and outlook in more detail.

Speaker 6

Call. Thank you, Ron, and hello, everyone. As Ron mentioned, the Keysight team delivered another outstanding quarter and better than expected results call, as robust demand for our differentiated solutions and continued macro recovery resulted in strong growth across all regions. Call. 2nd quarter revenue of $1,221,000,000 was above the high end of our guidance range and grew 36% or 33% on a core basis versus a soft compare due to COVID related disruption.

Q2 revenue growth was driven by broad strength across all markets release as the Keysight team navigated macro dynamics and supply chain constraints. We achieved 2nd quarter orders of $1,332,000,000 up 22% or 19% on a core basis. Turning to our operational results for Q2. Call. We reported gross margin of 64%, which increased 170 basis points.

Operating expenses call of $467,000,000 were well managed resulting in operating margin of 26%. As discussed last quarter, variable pay expense increased approximately $30,000,000 sequentially as a result of higher revenue growth and operating margin. We achieved net income of $270,000,000 call and delivered $1.44 in earnings per share, which was above the high end of our guidance. Our weighted average share count for the quarter was 100 to 87,000,000 shares. Moving to the performance of our segments.

Our Communications Solutions Group achieved 2nd quarter revenue of 8 $177,000,000,000 up 34%, was delivering gross margin of 65% and operating margin up 25 call. Commercial Communications orders and revenue in the 2nd quarter were all time highs. Revenue of $606,000,000 increased 30%, driven by continued investment across the 5 gs lifecycle. Aerospace, Defense and Government revenue of 2 $71,000,000 grew 46%, resulting from strong demand across all regions, primarily in the U. S.

And Asia call followed by a strong recovery in Europe. The Electronic Industrial Solutions Group generated record revenue of $344,000,000 call, up 42% or 37% on a core basis. Order and revenue strength was notable across all regions, particularly in Asia Pacific. Call. Semiconductor, general electronics measurement and automotive solutions orders and revenue all grew strong double digit.

Report a gross margin of 64% and operating margin of 28%. Moving to the balance sheet and cash flow. We ended our 2nd quarter with Approximately $2,000,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and reported cash flow from operations of $402,000,000 and free cash flow call of $369,000,000 or 30 percent of revenue. Our capital allocation priorities are unchanged and are focused on investments in organic growth, call. Value creating acquisitions and share repurchases.

Under share repurchase authorization during the quarter, we acquired 1 point 59,000,000 shares on the open market at an average price of $138.36 for a total consideration of $220,000,000 call. Now turning to our outlook and guidance. We expect Q3 2021 revenue to be in the range of $1,205,000,000 to 1.2 of $25,000,000 which represents 20% revenue growth at the midpoint. We expect Q3 earnings per call to be in the range of $1.39 to $1.45 based on a weighted diluted share count of approximately 187,000,000 shares. Call.

In closing, we are entering the second half of the year with strong momentum. We are pleased with our operational execution and remain confident in our ability call. Drive growth and deliver on our commitments. With that, I will now turn it back to Jason for the Q and A.

Speaker 3

Call. Thank you, Neil. Gabriel, will you please give the instructions for the Q and A?

Speaker 1

Q and A roster. Your first question will come from Mehdi Hosseini, Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Call. Yes. Thanks for taking my question. Anil, both segments, call. CSG and EISG had sequential increase in revenue, but operating margin declined.

Can you elaborate is that due to the ongoing COVID cost and what else is impacting? And then where are we in the evolution of millimeter wave and call. When is Keysight's expectation for millimeter wave to go from like R and D into full production? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Call. Yes, Mehdi. Hey, thanks for

Speaker 6

the question. So yes, you're correct. And as I had indicated last quarter, we were expecting a very sizable sequential increase call. And our variable pay expense in Q2 relative to Q1, given that One of the primary drivers of that payout is organic revenue growth, and we had the soft revenue comp a year ago because of the COVID disruption. Call.

So we saw about a $30,000,000 sequential increase in variable pay as a result of that. And then I'll hand it over to call. Satish, you can address your millimeter

Speaker 2

wave question.

Speaker 8

Yes. Hi, Mahdi. As we have said before, millimeter wave is a long term opportunity for Keysight. Slide. We're already seeing a pretty steady business for millimeter wave offerings from our customers for the past few years, so we expect it to continue to grow.

Again, we're on the front end of something that's going to play out over the next decade because of the progression in millimeter wave spectrum from 20 to 40 to call. 70 to 90 gigahertz and then with 6 gs coming in with terahertz. So there is a big long term road map that's playing out. Call. Specific to your question on 5 gs, maybe I can offer a data point.

If you think of the certification being a critical parameter for 5 gs devices, About 150 devices are being certified right now. About 30% of them have millimeter wave in it. So that paints the picture hopefully. And the total number of 5 g devices right now that are being released is about 700. So it sort of gives you maybe a framing on where we are.

It's still very early days. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Next question will come from Samik call Chatterjee of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hi. Yes, this is Joe Cardoso on for Samik Chatterjee. I just wanted to follow-up on the last question, particularly around the supply chain issues that have been impacting companies industry wide. I guess just a clarification on my part. In

Speaker 1

this quarter, did

Speaker 9

you see an impact from supply issues on your top line and margin? Call. And if so, what was the impact? Can you quantify the impact? And then relative to the guidance, are you guys baking in any headwinds material headwinds on the top line of margins?

Thank you.

Speaker 5

Hi, this is Ron. As you know, in the last quarter, we exceeded our revenue guidance call. And you've seen our guide for the next quarter. Very pleased with the performance and how we've been able to deliver the revenue despite what's going on in the world. Of course, we see some COVID manufacturing decreases in capacity as well as some supply chain components, shortages.

However, we planned ahead, we thought for those and the most important part Is that when you look at customized seeds, which have a very, very long lead time for many folks in the call. We have an on-site fab that creates and produces all of our custom ICs. So that enables us to basically have complete control of that supply chain for the critical custom parts. We're very confident in the guide that we have, call. But there's no doubt that we have built backlog and our order book is strong.

So as the world situation levels, we could increase revenue even more and more in the future.

Speaker 1

Call. Your next question will come from John Pitzer of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Yes, good afternoon, guys. Congratulations on the strong quarter. Call. Ron, I'm just kind of curious with the recent C band auctions in the U. S.

Now behind us, can you help me better understand call. How that kind of impacts your view on your comms business as we go throughout the balance of this year? And as you do that, I'd be kind of curious as to the sort of geographic distribution specifically

Speaker 2

as you think about

Speaker 4

next quarter and beyond. How much call. Specifically, as you think about next quarter and beyond, how much more important is China? Or are you actually starting to see things percolate in the U. S.

And beyond?

Speaker 8

Call. Yes, John, it's a great question. With regard to call? The deployment scenarios globally, as we all know, China started to lead the 5 gs deployments. And with the C band option coming in, the major announcements from the U.

S. Operator referencing a road map call to deploy more 5 gs in the country. We view it as a positive. We saw an uptick of our in our business in the U. S.

Specifically for capabilities in the C band this quarter, and we view the funnel and pipeline to be strong call. But again, not to get too siloed on one spectrum because at the end of the day, our customers are looking to test for call. Creating devices and products that cater to the global marketplace. And right now, we have 9,000 different band combinations that our customers have to test for And eventually and today, they're testing 2,000. So and we're enabling all our customers who are staying in the lead, and we feel good about our position there.

Speaker 4

Call. And then just quickly, Neil, on the variable comp, was this quarter a particularly sort of step up quarter? And how do we think about Kind of the growth in variable comp from here as you guys continue to execute?

Speaker 6

Yes. So I mean this quarter wasn't unusual. Obviously, we delivered 36% revenue growth, that's the total there was some of that was inorganic. But with those high levels of revenue growth. It drives our variable compensation towards the high end of what is possible.

I think as you look forward, next quarter, we still have a reasonably soft comp. We're guiding

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into the kind of low 20% range,

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which is still quite aggressive growth. Flow. Into the kind of low 20% range, which is still quite aggressive growth and it's going to be variable comp high again in Q3, not quite as high as Q2, call. But still quite elevated. And then we start to get to more normalized comps here in the Q4 and a little bit more of a return to normalized levels.

Speaker 4

Call. Perfect. Helpful guys and congratulations.

Speaker 5

Thanks very much, John. And please note that The comp that we're talking about, the variable comp is for all employees in Keysight and that is paid. One big factor is revenue growth. Call. And you saw revenue growth number which is driving that near the extreme limit.

Speaker 1

Your next session will come from John Marchetti of Stifel. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks very much. I was wondering if you could just comment a little bit on the Malaysian operation You guys have obviously with some of the surges that we're starting to see particularly in Southeast Asia, if there's concerns there on your side call? That you may have to slow some things down there from your own manufacturing standpoint.

Speaker 5

Call? No. Our manufacturing is very well distributed. We have the largest test and measurement factory in the world in Penang, Malaysia, but we also have facilities that do development early production runs As well as produce certain products in Europe as well as in the U. S.

But the bulk of it is overseas. We don't manufacture anything of scale in China, so that's not an issue to us. And Penang seems to be in a very good position to capitalize on any type of regional shift.

Speaker 4

Got it. And then maybe just call. Quick follow-up regionally. When we think of the China business overall, you mentioned some of the uptick call. On the semi side, as you're seeing some of the increased capacity, not just there, but elsewhere coming in.

But any change that you've seen relative call. To some of the language or what's going on in China, just given the bit of exposure that you have across the portfolio there?

Speaker 5

Call. No. We actually saw strong order results and order growth as well as revenue growth. Call. Mark will tell you a little bit more about it.

We did have about 3 points of headwinds from Huawei, where this is really the second to last quarter that we expect to have that. But despite that, we had very strong order and revenue growth. And I'll let Mark, call. Our Head of Sales give you a little more color.

Speaker 10

Yes. Thank you, Ron. John, it is another quarter where we've mitigated call. The impact from the headwinds, as Ron said, about 3 points during the Q2. And it we pivot To other opportunities and other customers, it really exemplifies the breadth and strength of our business as well as the investments we've made in our direct sales organization there.

And we're seeing strong opportunities and growth across China in semiconductor 5 gs commercial space, automotive is really starting to pick up and then general electronics as well. So I'm very pleased with what we've seen. We've got One more quarter in Q3 with some headwinds, but the bottom line is our business in China is strong with this broad footprint of customers.

Speaker 5

Call. Thanks for the color. Yes, John, I just so like to point out the fact that Xiaomi was effectively the trade restrictions were loosened It's a positive sign for us, not so much the account of Xiaomi, but the fact that there is some progress that is being made.

Speaker 1

Call. Got it.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Rob.

Speaker 11

You're welcome.

Speaker 1

The next question will come from Mark Delaney of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Call. Yes. Good afternoon and thanks very much for taking the question. I think at the last earnings call, the company had talked about the potential for EPS this fiscal year to grow in the mid to high teens range and through the first half of the year and with guidance for fiscal 3Q, you're tracking very well relative to that. So Help me to better understand if you're still expecting that sort of a mid to high teens growth rate and we need to be thinking about potentially a slower up call.

Fiscal Q4. If so, what would it be the cause of that? Or perhaps there's now some upside to the prior commentary around EPS growth this year?

Speaker 6

Call. Yes. Mark, I don't have a specific update for you to that prior number. But obviously, we exceeded the high end of our guidance range call here in the Q2. And you've seen our guide for Q3.

So I think at the margin, things are trending a little bit better than they were when we made that statement 3 months ago.

Speaker 10

And but I don't

Speaker 6

have a specific update for you at this point in time.

Speaker 12

Okay. I'll turn it over. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Call. Next question will come from Adam Thalhimer of Thompson Davis. Please go ahead. Thanks. Great quarter guys.

Hey, just quickly, there was an other call. In the quarter, just curious what that was because it did detract from the Q2 performance, it looks like.

Speaker 6

Call. Yes. We did have we did call. To our pension schemes in the Netherlands and had some settlement expense as a result as we transferred those liabilities to an insurance company.

Speaker 1

Call. Okay. Thanks. And our next question will come from David Risinger of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good afternoon. So I definitely heard you on Keysight having its own supply chain under control. Call. Other companies may be struggling a lot more than you and placing orders ahead of time, call, trying to make sure that they get the equipment that they need. So I'm wondering, are you seeing anecdotally call.

Any sign of pull forward on orders or maybe companies placing the order earlier that would have influenced your strong order growth this quarter?

Speaker 10

Call. Yes, this is Mark. No, we really didn't see any evidence of that. What we saw was some a little bit of pent up demand from the impact call. The COVID last year, which we kind of expected it somewhat offset the trade headwinds that we talked about earlier.

Call? We watch cancellations very closely. They were at a record low for the quarter, and we're seeing, again, this call. Steady broad demand. So we have no signs thus far that there's any material pull in of orders.

Speaker 6

Call. And David, if I could just add on, I like your characterization of the vertically integrated supply

Speaker 8

call? You're potentially making us

Speaker 6

a little bit less susceptible to some of those these supply constraints than maybe others are facing. Call? As I sit and look at it, the challenges with regard to movement control and social distancing call. You make it a challenge to add capacity during these times. And so I've talked about in the past our seasonality being more muted at least through the 1st part of the year.

I think Those things are going to really serve to keep that kind of muted seasonality in place really through the end of this fiscal year.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Call. Our next question will come from Jim Suva, Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much and congratulations on the there. Results outlook and all the details so far. My question is, there's lots of talk about double ordering and double booking, maybe from other industries like call. Like automobiles or consumer electronics or PCs and such? Or are you building in some conservatism for some double ordering or call.

For customers that may be putting in

Speaker 10

a little more orders due

Speaker 4

to the semiconductor shortage, I mean, just kind of see if you're building in a little bit call. Surmodism or simply in the test and measurement industry, do companies just not double order due to the lead times in specialty configurations needed?

Speaker 10

Call. Yes, Jim, this is Mark. As I said earlier, we do watch for this and there's really no evidence. Our funnel has been very strong now call for many months as we continue to supply our solutions. The results, as you've seen, are very broad based.

Call. And unlike other industries, as you point out, oftentimes, the planning associated with customers procuring some of call? Our systems and solutions can go out many months. So it really doesn't lend itself to that sort of double booking, if you will. If you look at semiconductor conductor is one of our stronger segments.

We see activities that are a year or more out in preparation for call? Outfitting a new fab or growing capacity. So it makes it very difficult to see any sort of hedging or double booking. And as I said before, call. We really aren't seeing that occur thus far.

Speaker 4

That's what I thought. Thank you so much.

Speaker 12

You're welcome.

Speaker 1

Your Next question will come from Tim Long of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Hi, this is Peter on for Tim. Call. I was wondering if you could give us some color on

Speaker 12

how much of the double digit order growth in commercial communications was related to 5 gs versus the other businesses? And in particular, if you could talk a little more on the opportunity on the application layer side in

Speaker 2

call in light of some of these new deployments?

Speaker 8

Yes. So the commercial comp strength again was broad. It We covered both the wireless and wireline. So it's 5 gs on the wireless side and 400 gig or on the wireline side as well. We also saw some recovery in our Network visibility business as enterprises are planning for return to work and thinking about what that IT infrastructure spend looks like.

So Those all looked favorable, so generally a very positive dynamic. Specific to the application layer, we identified call. A few areas around different end market verticals and new applications to focus on about a year ago, and that's paying rich dividends. On the new application front, it's the Open RAN, where it's an open virtualized network, bringing in new customers and more players into the ecosystem. So we had Strong demand for our solutions that we launched in Q1 and on quarter 1.

And on the new vertical side, call? We gained traction with a lot of the aerospace and defense companies that are looking to invest in the DoD's call. 5 gs program. So both those are going very well. And when we look forward and look at the funnel for both these opportunities, they are very healthy and they are very rich with the customer strong customer collaborations that are building.

Speaker 12

That's great color. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Call. Your next question will come from Rick Beekman of Baird. Please go ahead.

Speaker 14

Yes, thank you. Thanks again and good call. Good quarter, to be sure. Good work by the Keysight team there. Just a question around maybe the backlog and maybe let me just call.

For one second, again, it looks like you built backlog again and maybe my rough math says your backlog is up maybe 15% or so year over year. When you provided second or excuse me, 3rd quarter revenue guide, is the assumption call. That orders or your book to bill will be about 1.0? Or is there an assumption that you work off some backlog into that call. Revenue guide for fiscal Q3.

Speaker 5

Yes. Hi, Rick. This is Ron. Our assumption is that our book to bill will be about 1. Call.

And we have strong backlog and we expect to exit Q3 with strong backlog.

Speaker 14

Okay. Call. Is there a lengthening in your backlog in terms of deliveries? Obviously, another supply chain question, but is there a lengthening out? Or are you call?

Foreseeing some ability to clear some of that backlog in Q4 by year end?

Speaker 2

Call. I'm

Speaker 10

sorry. I do have a

Speaker 6

question on. Sorry about that. I said, I think the most important factor at this point is that we feel like we're doing a call. Meeting the needs of our customers and getting them the product that they need and the timelines at which they need it. And while we're not immune to some of the supply constraints that are out there.

I think we're doing a good job managing them. We're benefiting from having the vertically integrated supply chain. And call? We are making investments to add capacity. Obviously, our revenues are going to be up substantially year over year, but not just because of the soft comps, they're Very substantially over 2019 levels as well and we'll continue to make the investments necessary that to get products into the hands of customers.

Speaker 5

Call. I got you. Rick, it's also worthwhile to note that if you look at software and you look at services, not only do they both have great Double digit order and double digit revenue growth. We've seen more and more ARR, which is going to go into the backlog and call. Let's put it this way, slow a little bit, how that peels off, but it will provide a great consistency of earnings call.

Speaker 8

As we go forward.

Speaker 5

And our earnings are

Speaker 6

north of $1,000,000,000 now.

Speaker 5

So it's a great addition

Speaker 6

to the end. Call.

Speaker 14

$1,000,000,000 Okay. And then just a last follow-up here. Neil, on the guide for fiscal Q3, call. Maybe the conversion is the conversion margin here, which I'm kind of calculating maybe low 20s, Is that again reflect the variable comp step up here?

Speaker 5

That's correct.

Speaker 14

Okay. All right. Very good. Thank you. Thank you again and a tremendous quarter.

Speaker 8

Call. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Your next question will come from Chris Snyder of UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 15

Thank you. I want to follow-up on Satish's earlier comments, which if I heard right, that companies are currently testing 2,000 bands and this is going to 9,000 bands. Call. So more than a quadrupling of the testing. I guess the question is how should we think about this, what it means for industry test capacity.

I assume it's not a one for one relationship there, but any color on that just higher level of intensity will be helpful.

Speaker 8

Call? Yes. I think it's band combinations, but you're right that the more frequency spectrum in a heterogeneous manner that gets deployed, The test intensity goes up. And if you think of typical device maker or companies in the ORAN space that are putting radio and CU components together and they have to do the testing. The amount of time they have to do the testing doesn't go up.

And so essentially, Some of the COVID restrictions of social distancing and all that essentially means that customers have are looking at ramping up capacity for the future. But it's a steady demand and that gives us confidence in our long term outlook call for the business. That's just one dimension of capacity. The other ones being all of the complexity associated with call associated with Release 15 deployments. And now with Release 16 ramping up, we have new capabilities to offer such That's what you saw with our press release with MediaTek this quarter.

Speaker 15

Appreciate all that. And then I guess following up on the buyback, call. You guys bought back a lot more shares this quarter than just kind of been the historical run rate. I guess going forward, call. Is it fair to assume that the majority of free cash is going to go to share repurchase, assuming there's no M and A?

I guess the question call. Like this $2,000,000,000 cash kind of balance, the right maybe go forward run rate to model and put everything excess into share call? Just until M and A starts coming through or until we see M and A come through.

Speaker 6

Well, I think you've seen a pretty balanced use of capital call. As we mentioned in our prepared comments, we generated $1,000,000,000 of cash over the last 4 quarters. We spent $500,000,000 on M and A, just under $500,000,000 on share repurchase. Call. And I would expect you continue to see balance as we look to invest in the future growth of our business.

I think specifically as it relates to call repurchase. We've committed to at least being anti dilutive with our buyback program, but we've proven with significant buybacks both in Q4 of last year as well as in Q2 of this call that when appropriate we'll step up and be more aggressive.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Your Next question will come from Matthew Niknam of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 16

Hi, guys. This is Nick on for Matt. Congrats again on the quarter. Call. Just two quick ones.

So first on free cash flow, came in really strong this quarter. I was just wondering if you guys could call. Provide a little bit more color on that and kind of how free cash flow should trend moving forward. Call. And then just the follow-up would be, obviously, some other guys or some other companies are seeing call.

Tighter gross margin because of the supply chain issues and inflation and etcetera. And so call. What are we seeing? Your margins are really stable here. Is that because of the in house fabrication?

Any color in there would also be really helpful. Thanks.

Speaker 8

Call. Yes. So let me take those questions.

Speaker 6

First of all, with regard to our free cash flow, obviously, we're very, very pleased with the cash generation of the business. Call? Cash registration was unusually strong here in the Q2. I think there are a couple of drivers of that. One is the increasing call.

Deferred revenue balances as a result of our push into software and services and building recurring revenue. So that's a great long term trend. And call? There is one significant timing difference, which we've already talked about and that has to do with the variable pay. Obviously, we've accrued that variable pay based on what was earned here in the call, but that will not hit the paychecks of our employees until Q3.

And so there'll be a bit of reversal of that over the course call? Of a couple of quarters because we expect accruals to be high here in the Q3 as well. As it looks to gross margin, we are seeing In some cases, some increasing input costs. But as we've said, most of our highly differentiated ICs are manufactured in house. I think that helps shield us.

I think long term, if you look at our business, the push that we have again towards increasing software content, increasing recurring revenue, The migration of business into selling into our customers' R and D labs, the move towards complete solutions that are more highly differentiated. All of those things are helping to drive the gross margin performance that you've seen in this business over a number of years, right? At the time of our spend, we were in the Mid to upper 50s and now we're in the mid-60s. And so I think we've got a lot of great momentum in that space. And as we continue to build software in our solutions portfolio, I think there's still room for further improvement.

Speaker 1

Your next question will come from Brandon Couillard of

Speaker 11

conference. Jefferies, please go ahead. Hey, thanks. Good afternoon. Ron, the strength in aerospace and defense call.

It's pretty impressive. Can you just talk about how you're feeling about the durability of that current momentum? And how would you characterize the degree of visibility call. In terms of the funnel there relative to history.

Speaker 10

Yes, Brandon, this is call? As we've said, we've had an ongoing focus on aerospace defense and aerospace defense, Both in the U. S. And around the world. The orders that we saw during the quarter were very strong across Western Europe call.

As we saw increased program funding, business in Asia was up. We had several strategic wins, as was mentioned earlier, for 5 gs. So the long term growth drivers are really remaining in place around the whole defense modernization with space and call satellite with the addition of 5 gs. And we are continuing to see our funnels continue to grow as these investments continue. So growth across multiple regions, conference.

So growth across multiple regions and strengths in the next generation technologies call. As they're going to be deployed over really many years.

Speaker 11

One more in market question.

Speaker 2

Call. Yes,

Speaker 1

go ahead. And one more point

Speaker 8

to Mark. Biden administration has just released their first pass of budget for 2022, and it actually points to a higher number. That combined with any other potential technology spend from the administration we view as a favorable dynamic.

Speaker 11

Call. Got you. And then just switching gears, in terms of the auto market, it's been soft for a few quarters now. Do you feel like that call. Space is finally maybe beginning to start to turn a quarter in terms of investments in sort of next gen programs?

Speaker 8

Call. Yes. The automotive market had a very solid quarter in quarter 2 and call is driven by some return to normalcy for manufacturing. And I know that call? As the automotive end market production is projected to increase in the second half, that should be a favorable dynamic for the business.

Call. But consistent with what we saw even through last year, the demand for R and D offerings in auto continued to be steady. We actually saw an uptick call? In that, especially around EV and AB and our funnel for the automotive EV offerings that we have is very strong looking into the second half. We just launched solutions to call.

We'll solidify our EV portfolio in charging test, and we continue to see a long runway for those offerings.

Speaker 11

Great. Thanks.

Speaker 1

Call. Thank you. And that concludes our question and answer session for today. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Jason Kary for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Call. Well, thank you all for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you at the upcoming conferences and just wish you a good day. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Call. Thank you. This concludes

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