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Earnings Call: Q4 2021

Feb 23, 2022

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Kaltura fourth quarter and full year 2021 earnings conference call. All material contained in the webcast is the sole property and copyright of Kaltura with all rights reserved. For opening remarks and introductions, I will now turn the call over to Erica Mannion at Sapphire Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Erica Mannion
President and Founder, Sapphire Investor Relations

Thank you and good morning. With me today from Kaltura are Ron Yekutiel, Co-founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer, and Yaron Zamir, Chief Financial Officer. Ron will begin with a summary of the results for the fourth quarter and full year ending December 31, 2021, and the trends and areas of focus that are expected to impact 2022. Yaron will then review in greater detail the financial results for the fourth quarter and for the full year, followed by the company's outlook for the first quarter and full year of 2022. We will then open the call for questions. Please note that this call will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Securities laws, including, but not limited to statements regarding Kaltura's expected future financial results and management's expectations and plans for the business.

These statements are neither promises nor guarantees and involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed here. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ from forward-looking statements can be found in the Risk Factors section of Kaltura's quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarterly period ended September 30, 2021, and other periodic SEC filings, including the annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2021, to be filed with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements made in this conference call, including responses to your questions, are based on current expectations as of today, and Kaltura assumes no obligation to update or revise them, whether as a result of new developments or otherwise, except as required by law. Please note, we will be discussing a non-GAAP financial measure, adjusted EBITDA during this call.

For a reconciliation of this non-GAAP financial measure to the most directly comparable GAAP metric, please refer to our earnings release, which is available on our website at www.investors.kaltura.com. Now, I will turn the call over to Ron.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Thank you, Erica, and thanks to everyone for joining us on the call this morning. We reported today that our revenue for the fourth quarter was $42.7 million, up 21% year-over-year, and our subscription revenue for the quarter was $38.5 million, up 33% year-over-year, and represented approximately 90% of total revenue. Our annualized recurring revenue or ARR for the fourth quarter was $150.8 million, up 29% year-over-year, and our net dollar retention rate for the fourth quarter was 120%, up from 103% in the same quarter in 2020.

We also continued improving our gross margins year-over-year, achieving 63% in the fourth quarter versus 60% in the same quarter in 2020, and our adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter was -$7.7 million. This quarter wraps up a fiscal year where we grew our total revenue by 37% and our subscription revenue by 39%. We also posted 75% year-over-year growth in the number of customers with over $1 million ARR and 25% growth in the number of customers with over $100,000 ARR. Growth in 2021 was driven by our expansion from a leading position in the video content management market into the virtual events, webinars, and virtual classroom markets. This expansion was enabled by the recent addition of real-time conferencing and chat capabilities to our earlier video on-demand and live broadcast technology stacks.

It was also marked by a shift towards powering more external use cases in the enterprise, where CMOs are the buyers, as well as an expansion downmarket that broadens our target customers to include SMEs and departments within larger organizations through more low touch and self-serve products. We're in the very early days of this strategic expansion to new product markets in the broad enterprise space. This adds to our vertical market activities currently in the education and media and telecom markets. With key differentiators and strong initial demands for all of our new products, we aim to reach a leadership position in these markets. As video-based experiences continue to drive critical interactions, the opportunity ahead of us is bountiful.

Before we discuss further our plans and growth engines for 2022, I want to address our recent growth deceleration and why we expect this trend to reverse this year. In the second half of 2021, we experienced a slowdown in the growth of our subscription revenue and a decrease in our professional services revenue. The headwinds on both revenue sources continued also into Q1 2022. The following are the three driving forces behind this. First, we experienced lower than planned EE&T new bookings. We kicked off a very strong 2020 and first half of 2021, which were fueled by higher levels of demand caused both by our newly introduced products and COVID. After a multi-year increase in our EE&T average sales force productivity, we started seeing a decline in productivity, mainly due to the lengthening of new business sales cycles.

This softness that was felt across the industry is also underscored by organizations shifting from rapidly purchasing a virtual events product along with many professional services to conduct their few flagship events remotely during COVID to more slowly and diligently purchasing a low-touch enterprise-wide platform that will cater to all of their future events, large and small, both virtual and hybrid. We were expecting this trend and recently launched the second version of our events offering that caters to this broader need, which represents a bigger market opportunity. In regard to the number of salespeople, while in Q4 we had over 40% more ramp quota-carrying salespeople compared to the same quarter the year before, we were still below our plan. This is due to the very competitive hiring and retention environment. We discussed this in our last earnings call, and have been further accelerating our hiring since.

We expect that during 2022, we will see average sales force productivity increasing back up, fueled also by the new version of our events offering, as well as the continued material growth in the number of salespeople. Second, the need for less professional services. We've been modifying our offerings for both EE&T and M&T to be more transactional and require fewer professional services in order to appeal to more customers and accelerate our sales and deployment cycles. Part of this trend was already planned and expected with the expansion of our self-service EE&T offering and our shift in M&T from focusing primarily on large telcos to also targeting mid-sized media companies. This trend was, however, further accelerated with the recent evolution of our events offering that have consumed significant professional services into a low-touch platform that requires far less of them.

While this reduction in professional services slowed down our short-term total revenue growth, we believe it is beneficial in the longer term as it helps boost subscription revenue growth rates and gross margins. It is also not expected to affect our longer term growth rates as post this transition, the proportion of professional services revenue of our total revenue is expected to settle down on the new lower level. Third, one of our major customers reduced part of their business and revenue with us during the fourth quarter of 2021. They have since renewed various existing projects and have partnered with us on new ones, so our business with them is picking up again, and they're expected to remain a major customer this year.

Outside of this specific customer, our gross retention metric in 2021 was close to our historical average, and as mentioned, our net dollar retention rates remained high in this quarter and in 2021 as compared to 2020. As we look into 2022, we expect the three factors that I noted to affect primarily the beginning of the year. We expect our growth to be fueled throughout the year and beyond by the following three main engines. The first is our continued sales force ramp. Our plan this year is to continue ramping our enterprise sales force by more than 40% year-over-year. After many years of not growing our sales force, we'll be able to enjoy the contribution of both the new recruits of 2021 and of 2022. The second is the expansion of our event platform capabilities.

As mentioned, during 2020 and 2021, we primarily focused on high-profile flagship events. We were ideally suited for this use case as we power all types of video experiences on-demand, live, and real-time at great scale with tight integrations into other enterprise systems and workflows, great flexibility for customization and branding, unique engagement features, and advanced analytics and tracking. Towards the end of last year, we expanded our event platform capabilities to address not just large flagship events, but all events of all sizes, allowing organizations to easily and rapidly create, manage, analyze, and duplicate virtual and hybrid events by using automated event templates and not by consuming Kaltura's professional services. This easy-to-use platform still offers our unparalleled breadth of video experiences, engagement features, insightful analytics, and a high degree of flexibility and branding.

We've deployed Kaltura meetings and event solutions for many exciting customers in Q4, including Check Point and Lowe's. Lowe's is now providing a Kaltura-powered live virtual do-it-yourself workshop experience for customers called Lowe's DIY-U, where Lowe's experts provide live video instructions and engage in interactive Q&A in support of Lowe's customers engaged in various DIY projects. Check Point, a leading software security company, conducted its recent Check Point experience event series on Kaltura. The third driver is our low-touch and self-serve products and go-to-market vehicles. Towards the end of last year, we finished developing our new experience for the self-serve purchase of our webinar, virtual classroom, and media services offerings through our website. We're now optimizing and scaling our digital operations to support efficient online sales and are continuing to improve these products and to add to the mix more self-serve products.

We also recently started building an inside sales team for EE&T low-touch commercial sales to augment our main sales team by also focusing on transactional sales for small organizations. In M&T, we're continuing to expand our market from large telcos towards lower-touch mid-sized media companies with an easier-to-deploy end-to-end Cloud TV platform that includes a front-end user experience and content syndication and monetization tools. In Q4, two such new media customers went live. Canal Panda, an AMC Networks channel, and CH Media, a Swiss broadcaster. Both of these customers launched in only a few months, far faster and with far fewer professional services than our typical large telco deployment. In addition to these three main growth engines, we're also growing our investment in our channel partners. We announced in 2021 our expanded relationship with partners like AWS and Oracle.

We plan to continue to invest in these partnerships and others in 2022 and further grow our revenues from co-sell, resell, and OEM partnerships. We're also launching this year our new M&T deals from 2021, which was a record new booking year for M&T. Due to their lengthy deployment time, many of these deals will contribute revenue only starting from the second half of 2022. Several other M&T customers from prior years have also planned expansion projects in 2022. Lastly, we're continuing to grow our strong presence in the education market and to expand to cater also to smaller institutions. In summary, all of our offerings, including our newer ones, events, webinars, and virtual classroom, are growing and important. Top brands are relying on Kaltura across each of our markets to engage their customers and users.

Retention rates remain strong, and we believe we're well-positioned to increase our market penetration in all of our markets in the coming year and beyond. We were expecting a certain slowdown as we shift from growing sales force productivity to scaling the sales force. We did, however, encounter greater headwinds in the last few months by way of industry-wide sales cycle slowness, delayed hiring, and a partial loss of business from one customer that's already growing back. We also temporarily delayed our revenue growth by reducing our professional services and their associated revenue in order to increase our target markets, shorten sales and deployment cycles, and increase our gross margins.

While we're disappointed with our slower short-term growth, we are confident that the headwinds we encountered are short-lived and that they will soon be offset by our strong growth engines, including the new products that we have brought to market and their modification to cater to lower touch and self-serve use cases, the ramp-up of our sales force, the strengthening of our go-to-market partnerships, and of course, the continued growth and success of our customers. With these engines, we expect to re-accelerate our revenue growth in the second half of 2022. With that, I'll turn it over to Yaron, our CFO, to discuss our financial results in more detail. Yaron.

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

Thank you, Ron, and good morning, everyone. As I review the fourth quarter and our fiscal year results today, please note that I will be referring to a non-GAAP metric, adjusted EBITDA. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financials is included in today's earnings release, which is available on our website at investors.kaltura.com. Total revenue for the fourth quarter ended December 31st, 2021 was $42.7 million, up 21% year-over-year. Subscription revenue was $38.5 million, up 33% year-over-year, while professional services revenue contributed $4.2 million, down 31% year-over-year. The remaining performance obligations were $185.5 million, up 32% year-over-year, of which we expect to recognize 57% as revenue over the next 12 months.

Annualized recurring revenue was $150.8 million, up 29% year-over-year. Revenue benefited from our continued year-over-year growth in net dollar retention rate, which was 120% in the fourth quarter compared to 103% in the fourth quarter of 2020. Within our EE&T segment, total revenue for the fourth quarter was $31 million, up 28% year-over-year. Subscription revenue was $29.7 million, up 40% year-over-year, while professional services revenue contributed $1.3 million, down 60% year-over-year. Within our M&T segment, total revenue for the fourth quarter was $11.7 million, up 7% year-over-year.

Subscription revenue was $8.8 million, up 13% year-over-year, while professional services revenue contributed to $2.9 million, down 3% year-over-year. GAAP gross profit for the quarter was $26.8 million, representing a gross margin of 63%, up from 60% gross margin in Q4 2020. Within our EE&T segment, gross profit for the fourth quarter was $22.1 million, representing a gross margin of 71% compared to the same 71% gross margin in Q4 2020. Within our M&T segment, gross profit for the fourth quarter was $4.6 million, representing a gross margin of 39%, up from 36% gross margin in Q4 2020.

R&D expenses for the fourth quarter were $13.3 million, or 31% of revenue, compared to 26% in Q4 2020. The increase was driven by additional headcounts and payroll expenses as we continue to invest in our technology and innovation. Sales and marketing expenses for the fourth quarter were $13.8 million, or 32% of revenue, compared to 23% in Q4 2020. This increase was driven by additional sales and marketing investment, including headcount and personnel-related expenses. We intend to continue to invest in our sales and marketing as we expand our sales force and marketing efforts to leverage our position in the market and capture the significant opportunity in front of us. G&A expenses for the fourth quarter were $12 million, or 28% of revenue, compared to 16% in the fourth quarter of 2020.

The increase was driven by additional public company ad count and third-party related expenses. GAAP net loss for the quarter was $15.9 million, or $0.12 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA was -$7.7 million, decreasing from $1.5 million in Q4 2020. This result in line with our plan to increase our spend in order to further fuel our growth, as discussed earlier. Now for the full fiscal year results. Total revenue for the year ended December 31st, 2021 was $165 million, up 37% year-over-year. Subscription revenue was $145 million, up 39% year-over-year, while professional services revenue contributed $20 million, up 22% year-over-year.

GAAP gross profit for 2021 was $102.7 million, representing a gross margin of 62%, up from a 60% gross margin in 2020. GAAP net loss in 2021 was $59.4 million, or $0.95 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA in 2021 was - $12.2 million, decreasing from $4.3 million in 2020. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flow. We ended the quarter with $143.9 million in cash and short-term investments. Net cash used in operating activities was $10.7 million in the quarter and $22.1 million in 2021. I would now like to turn to our outlook for the first quarter and the full year of 2022.

In the first quarter, we expect subscription revenue to grow by 12%-15% to between $36.2 million and $37.2 million, and total revenue to grow by 5%-8% to between $39.6 million and $40.7 million. As Ron mentioned, this takes into consideration an expected material decline in our professional services revenue. We expect a negative adjusted EBITDA to be between $9 million and $12 million. For the full year, we expect subscription revenue to grow by 10%-13% to between $159.5 million and $163.8 million, and the total revenue to grow by 5%-8% to between $173.3 million and $178.2 million.

Again, as Ron mentioned, we expect to accelerate our subscription and total revenue in the back half of the year and forecast our revenue for professional services to remain around flat for the rest of the year. We expect for the full year a negative adjusted EBITDA between $27 million and $32 million. On the expense front, our investment plans and priorities for 2022 have not changed. We plan to continue investing across both R&D and sales and marketing to drive growth and expect our gross margin to continue growing moderately towards achieving our long-term goals. In summary, as Ron mentioned, we believe that our sales acceleration, new products, and the strong retention rates will enable us to accelerate our revenue growth rate in the second half of 2022. With that, we will open the call to questions. Operator?

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. We ask that you limit your questions to one and a follow-up so that others may have an opportunity to ask questions as well. You may re-enter the queue by pressing star one. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Gabriela Borges with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Gabriela Borges
MD and Head of U.S. Software Equity Research, Goldman Sachs

Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. Ron, I wanted to come back to the comment you made on the change in buying motions that you're seeing at your customers towards enterprise-wide products that you think will be best served by the second generation of your events platform. Maybe talk to us a little bit about what are the leading indicators that you see that lead you to believe that the expansion of your events platform will drive growth for the company in the second half, and how do you get comfortable that there's not an additional headwind that you're seeing from competition? Thank you.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Thank you, Gabriela, for the question, and thank you, everybody, for joining the call. I'm gonna give you a few examples of things that we've been seeing over the last quarter that are supporting the notion of starting to see sales cycles, but that they are longer. We had a top tech company, a top 20 Kaltura customer for more than nine years with us, that awarded us their event business for the Tier 2 and Tier 3 events, meaning the smaller and intermediate-sized events, not the flagship events. That's gonna take them a while until they physically contract that. We have already a verbal, and it goes through the motions, and we're expecting that later in the year.

Another example is a very well-known technology company who's not been our customers to date. They joined us, but they've done two smaller events with us that defined that we're one of the two final candidates to do all their events. We're discussing thousands of potential events. They go through a prolonged process as we go through these initial events to assess the quality of the product and make final decisions around where it's gonna be deployed. By the way, the reason for the first one for choosing us was the enterprise ability of our platform, the fact that we could address integrated workflows across the entire organization. The reason for the second leading position that we are right now is the fact that we could address complex event templates which could be easily replicated.

For example, they run training events that require robust content management capabilities. We're the only platform that could support these needs. I can give you a couple more. A new tech company customer for this past quarter, they ran with us their annual customer event, received their users the highest scores in five years for virtual event experiences, and that's for both physical and virtual events, and the rating was off the chart. A health organization that's been a customer of ours for eight years is starting to do stuff. We're seeing definitely the pipeline build and the need come in, but the decision-making process of a platform that caters not to very large flagship events that need to happen immediately and happen once, rather many, many intermediate size events, is just a longer process.

We are seeing the market say that we are a very strong offering there and their interest, the cycles are just longer. Did that address your question?

Gabriela Borges
MD and Head of U.S. Software Equity Research, Goldman Sachs

Yes. Thank you. Maybe a little more detail on what you're seeing in the existing book of business. You mentioned the one customer where you're seeing a partial loss of business. Are you seeing additional customers perhaps downsize their contract with you as they figure out their longer-term plans because perhaps the nature of their events are changing real time? Maybe just a little more on whether you're seeing a downtick in existing customer spend or any other examples that parallel the one customer that you called out.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Yep. Happy to address that. First of all, we did discuss one of our major customers that reduced part of their business, as well as the revenue during the quarter. They've since renewed various projects, et cetera. I will say first and foremost that they have multiple projects, and they are growing the other side of the project. There were some projects that were canceled, and the rest are ongoing and growing. As for the other ones, as we did state, outside of this specific customer, our gross retention metrics in 2021 were close to our historical average, both in 2020 and in 2019, and the net dollar retention rate remains high. We're not seeing any massive change in our gross retention or in the net retention behavior.

I will state that as it pertains specifically going forward into these flagship events, is there a possibility that some of the other folks that just used us for flagship might either replace to the full or do a partial? That's potential, but that's not a huge part of our revenue, and we are seeing the migration into additional bigger projects as well. We're not expecting a major change in our gross retention metric. Does that address your question?

Gabriela Borges
MD and Head of U.S. Software Equity Research, Goldman Sachs

Yes. Thank you for the follow-up.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Thank you, Gabriela.

Operator

Our next question is from DJ Hynes with Canaccord. Please proceed with your question.

DJ Hynes
Applications Software Senior Analyst, Canaccord

Hey, Ron. Thanks for all the color on current trends. I appreciate the transparency. Ron, I wanna ask if you're seeing sales productivity declines within your existing team, what makes you think, you know, throwing more resources at the problem is the right solution now?

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Yeah. Great question, and thank you, DJ. First and foremost, you know, this has not been a very prolonged process. I remind you that we've seen increasing productivities before COVID, during COVID, and that sustained all the way through kinda the end of last year. We know that Q4 was a bit of a different duck. Even through Q3, that there was some mild reduction. We're just still forecasting for the year based on the actual pipeline that we should be fine for the year. That change really was a few deals that slipped at the end of the year that just took longer, and most of them, almost all of them, the statement is, We're absolutely doing this. You got a verbal. This just takes longer. We're not feeling that there is a slowness overall in the demand nor in the underlying market.

The other one is, I mentioned we've been adding the types of products that would enable us to continue to address this trend and this change and this, elongating of these deals. It's not that deals are stopping, just the closing of the deals take more time. Bringing more salespeople to work on the likes of the deals that I mentioned, as well as many others, is something that's absolutely worthwhile. It does not necessarily mean that they translated into closing the business immediately. Last thing I would state is that even if you look at the reduced productivities, they're still higher than 2019 on average for 2021.

Even if you take the run rate on the second half of the year, it's a portion of that that's still from a kind of an LTV to CAC. It's still a favorable number on the second half of the year. We're not at the levels that we would argue that it's not an efficient operation, but we're keeping an eye very closely on it, and we're not gonna add all the people in one sunny day. As we ramp them throughout the year, we're gonna continue to make decisions on it.

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

One more point that I want to add DJ, is that when we look on the pipeline, obviously we are not sharing pipeline numbers. Definitely we see a nice development in the pipeline, especially around the new offerings that Ron mentioned. We do feel that we will be able to convert into booking using the new sales people.

DJ Hynes
Applications Software Senior Analyst, Canaccord

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The other question I suspect I'm gonna get is, look, we've had four straight quarters. I think net revenue retention's been kinda 116-121. You're guiding 12%-15% subscription growth in Q1. I think the bridge is probably this large customer attrition that you talked about. Can you just give us a little more clarity on what's happening there? Like, what did they not renew? What are they now adding? What is the financial impact? I think that would help folks get comfortable there.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Sure. Happy to do that, and thanks for asking. Look, this is a customer. Again, we're trying to keep the privacy of our customers and confidentiality of the situation, so we can't get into the nitty-gritty. Like I said, it's a major customer. They have a fair amount of business with us. They do quite a few events. It's a lot of event-focused situation. From our understanding, for internal reasons, with conversations with their teams, they decided to switch to another option on part of their business. It's not related to our immediate product or services. Altogether, it's a few of the big events that we support them. It did translate to a fair amount of reduction, by the way, more on the non-recurring than it is on the recurring, but on both.

It's important to note that we're anticipating anyway a drop in professional services from them, given all the trends that we have stated and that we are currently forecasting to catch up on the subscription revenue from additional deals that we're doing with them. They are remaining a large and important customer. We are renewing projects with them. We're discussing additional ones with them. That's kind of the sum of it. Yaron, you want to add something about it?

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

Yeah. One thing that we are not sharing booking numbers, but I can tell you that even in the first quarter of this year, we definitely saw a very nice momentum in booking around this specific customer. Looking into the rest of 2022 and the conversion into revenue, we do feel that this customer is going to continue to be a very, very significant customer for us.

DJ Hynes
Applications Software Senior Analyst, Canaccord

Okay. Appreciate the color. Thank you, guys.

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

Thank you, DJ Hynes.

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Funk with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Funk
Research Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah. Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to go back to your comment about the sales cycle and that lengthening, and just wondering if this is the new normal in your view or if it's a reflection of customers maybe shifting course mid-negotiation, around uncertainty on kind of the product and the use cases and what they actually need. Just trying to get a sense of what's driving that length in the sales cycle and if this is the new normal.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Yeah. Michael, thanks for asking. Look, we always thought that post-COVID, the cycles are gonna be longer than during COVID. I think that's not the question because, again, a lot of it was spur of the moment decisions that people needed to have done very quickly. We are seeing now some of the cycles taking a bit longer than what we would anticipate. I think part of that is that quarter four coming out of this crazy year and some people taking more time off might be longer than usual, potentially macro situations around budgets. I think beyond that, it's really a point of that transition of the type of product into a more thoughtful, longer-term strategic decision around events for the entire organization. I think that two things are gonna happen.

Number one, if the beginning of it gets delayed, it's like a traffic jam that you're at the beginning of it. Once it starts rolling, then you have the flux of the deals that we do close now. That interim period of that delay is probably creating a bigger impact than later on, even if sales cycles remain a bit longer. I do expect that they're gonna become quicker for various reasons. Number one, I think people are gonna understand exactly what they're looking for. It's still a rather new shift. The second thing is that we are gonna have more of that product available. We just launched it in Q4, the additions, the modifications, and we're gonna do more and more of it and more and more success stories.

Like I said, we have quite a few initial success stories, and I think we'll be in a position to sell these things quicker. I will note again that even if you look at productivities and where they're at, it's decent productivities, and so we're hoping that if it's following on what happened in the second half of the year, it's still gonna do well. We're hoping it's gonna do better. It's hard for us. We are a long sales cycle company. It's not a transactional SMB quick sale, albeit that we are coming down market. We cannot look at one specific quarter and be able to say for sure exactly how things are going. We're gonna need to monitor this in the next few quarters and update you.

Michael Funk
Research Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Just to clarify, I mean, I think you mentioned that although the sales cycles are lengthening, the deal sizes are actually getting larger as, you know, customers, you know, think about and address, you know, kind of like whole company needs. Is there any way to quantify that change in deal size? Is that just gonna, you know, to your point, add more potential lumpiness to quarters, but like the pig and the python, once it works through, you end up at the same point at the end of the year. Was that your point?

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

I would hope. I mean, it's. First of all, over the years, we've increased our ARPU and average MR. We've seen an increase also in the past year of the average recurring revenue per customer, quite significant. We did post the number of customers that are over $1 million and $100,000 growing respectively by 75% and 25% in the past year. We are getting bigger ticket items. Some of the deals that I mentioned now that are in play for thousands of events across the organization are quite large. Yes, it's. The expectation is for this to grow. The other thing is not just the size of the deals, but also the structure from a recurring subscription versus professional services.

The flagship events were also requiring a fair bit of non-recurring professional services because they would come alongside our ability to provide branding and very close work with the very, very large deals, and partly also because we didn't have the automated product to support that, just by way of our product.

Now we're gonna have more recurring, more subscription, and less professional services. I think hopefully what we're gonna see is rebound back to faster sales cycles, more demand as we strengthen our product, larger ticket items, and higher gross margins and faster transactions with more transactional product. Again, we will monitor this in the quarters ahead and update.

Michael Funk
Research Analyst, Bank of America

It's all great color. Thank you so much.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Well, thank you, Michael.

Operator

Our next caller, Michael Turrin with Wells Fargo, has a question. Please proceed.

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

I think this was just, Michael, right?

Michael Turrin
Managing Director and Senior Technology Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hey, guys. This is talking the call for Michael. I just wanted to touch on RPO and TRPO. It looks like both were up double digits sequentially, but ARR was down sequentially. Can you understand customers downsizing might result in a downtick in ARR, but what's driving the divergence between those two metrics there?

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

First of all, the big increase in the RPO is mostly, not just, but mostly related to the fact that we added some of the big deals that we have in Media and Telecom, which are definitely contributing to the growth in RPO. By the way, some of these deals will be converted into revenue in just the second part of the year, 2022, but it's definitely going to push growth rate up, hopefully.

In terms of the sequential and what happened in this quarter, the slowness that we saw in productivity and the specific reduction of this big customer, which as I mentioned and Ron mentioned, it's mostly for the short term and not so much for the rest of the year, as this customer is continuing to renew and re-book more transactions during Q1. There was a short-term pressure that we felt in Q4 going into the beginning of the year on the RPO.

Michael Turrin
Managing Director and Senior Technology Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. That's great. Thank you. Then just as a follow-up, I just wanted to unpack the revenue performance on a geographic basis. Were there any call-outs related to specific geos that might have driven the lighter performance on revenue during the quarter?

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

No, no. The short answer is no. The trends are basically the same trends. North America is still our biggest region, followed by Europe and then Asia Pacific. There are some small tweaks and shifts, but it's remained mostly the same.

Operator

Our next question is from Matthew Niknam with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Matthew Niknam
Director of Equity Research, Deutsche Bank

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the question. Maybe two, if I could. First on churn, maybe if we can get any more color on how customer churn is trending. I'm, I guess, more focused on customers within EE&T that may have joined sort of earlier on in the pandemic. If there's any color you can give us in terms of how that cohort that joined roughly two years ago, how churn has been trending there. Secondly, if we try to sort of unpack the revenue guide for subscription within 2022, is the implication here that subscription revenue growth stays relatively flat in the second quarter and then sees a little bit more of a ramp in 2H as you start to see some more bookings from new sales people?

I'm just trying to sort of figure out the trajectory during the year. Thanks.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Yeah. No. Thanks, Matt. On the churn side, again, we do not see any specific, other than that individual customer that we discussed, any behavior that is significantly south. Like as mentioned, it's aligned with the last couple of years. Some of the departures are new, but I think a fair bit of them are not. At the end of the day, the growth churn number, albeit that we don't represent it and we don't discuss it as a KPI, we just do the net dollar retention, is within best practice for the enterprise. We're not seeing it. I did put that caveat that we need to keep our eye open on what's gonna happen with these flagship events.

Like I said, there's a good potential for us to move from flagship to full event platform. We're seeing with some, in some other cases it might change. We're gonna keep our eyes open over the next few quarters, and it's not a big chunk of our revenue. If it was big, it was mainly that single customer that had the biggest piece of it. As for guidance for subscription, go ahead, Yaron. Yeah.

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

As we said, most of the headwinds that we felt with an impact for the short term, and it did create some pressure on the growth of subscription revenue, especially this specific customer that, as we mentioned, we saw a pressure on top line, but at the same time, we are booking more and more deals with them, so we see the turnaround point happening as we speak. At the same time, we believe that also most of the impact of the productivity is going to turn around in the second part of the year. By adding more people, we do believe that we will see very nice acceleration in the growth of subscription revenue going into the second part of the year.

Yes, if you look on the guidance that we have provided to Q1 and you can see that the remainder of the year in order even to reach the guidance, even if we are not going to beat the numbers, showing a very nice sequential growth mostly in subscription revenue. As we say, the pressure on professional services will continue. It's going to be mostly flat for this year. Most of the upside and the impact that we will see the second part of the year quarter- to- quarter and on a sequential basis is going to come from subscription revenue, and we do see it in our internal model right now.

Matthew Niknam
Director of Equity Research, Deutsche Bank

That's great. Thank you both.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Thank you, Matt.

Operator

Our next question comes from Steven Enders with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Steven Enders
Associate, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. Thanks for taking the questions here. I guess just from a vertical perspective, I guess, is there anything to break down in kind of what the demand environment looks like across each of the regions segments here? You know, particularly on the EE&T side, I think, you know, it sounds like ed tech has been a little bit more impacted, at least just what we've heard in the market. But just any kind of breakdown from a vertical perspective on what you're seeing out there?

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Yeah, sure, Steve. First of all, contribution was coming from all segments quarter, and the largest contributor continues to be enterprise. We spoke about geography. I mean, I could give you a few examples of things you're asking about ed tech, that you know but we have a large multi-campus private university that serves over 20,000 students a year that basically selected us from a very highly competitive test out there around the different options. There's around the world a large university in the Netherlands that's serving 35,000 students took us to replace their full video technology stack. We got another very large, prestigious, privately owned university in the Philippines that's serving 30,000 students that's leveraging our capabilities to do all of their on-prem or local and hybrid remote classroom work.

We have upsells across our organizations. A large California-based engineering university doubled down on their transcription capabilities with us. We're still seeing good action coming from education. Do I think that the tick up in education will continue at the same velocity that it jumped up at the height of COVID with some more consumption? Might be lower, but the good thing is that we have a good hedge across all the different elements. One example of that, for example, is media and telecom. You remember that in 2021, there was a record jump in booking. It grew by 100%. In the second half of this year, we're gonna get a lot of that benefit on the revenue side. A good portion of the growth, by the way, is already in pocket with stuff that happened.

Enterprise is running forward with events. Education is doing well. It might do another big jump. One of the things that we're looking at is selling the event platform for education. A lot of folks are coming to us and are saying they wanna use that for various events that universities are using. Again, we're keeping an eye on that one.

Steven Enders
Associate, KeyBanc Capital Markets

I guess maybe asked a little bit differently. I mean, you're not seeing a impact on the ed tech space from, you know, classes going back in person or, you know, anything on that front?

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

No, because we're not a usage-based charging on that side. To remind you, the content management systems we've been selling for education for years, including plugins to LMS and lecture capture, we're an FTE-based model. The more people use this, we didn't necessarily get paid more. Insofar as what's happening, if there's a bit less consumption after COVID, it doesn't affect our revenue. Are universities even clearer that they need to use the systems? Yes. You know, one thing is that, you know, during COVID, people needed to use this very quickly for COVID, but they didn't rethink about their strategy going forward for a full flipped classroom experience where people could come to the campus to do their drills and training, but really consume the actual lecture content back home. It's called flipping the classroom.

We're seeing more and more universities saying, Okay, we understand the new standard, and we need to start preparing for more video capabilities in this new standard. No, I mean, companies that really popped or consumption-based companies in COVID, they went up, then they go down. We didn't have that in EDU, so that's not a problem for us. That address your question?

Steven Enders
Associate, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Yep, that's helpful. I guess just on the cloud go-to-market partnerships with, you know, AWS and Oracle, just kind of any update on how those are ramping versus your expectations and you know, kind of any contributions that those drove in the quarter?

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Yeah, happy to address that. We're continuing forward with both partnerships, both with Amazon and with Oracle. To remind you, Amazon has been a long-term partner for us, and we are in their marketplace and working on selling more. We have a fair bit of deals that are coming and opportunities that are coming through the Amazon partnership, and they're continuing forward. I'd say on the Oracle front, when we made that extended partnership earlier this year, was first and foremost around moving our OEM relationship into OCI. We're making headway on converting and enabling to run our OEM relationship on OCI and doing more things that we have to go to market together. I think that the impact will be building up throughout the year of 2022.

I think that towards the latter part of the year, once the OEM and OCI are running stronger, we could expect a lot of good things from there as well.

Steven Enders
Associate, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay, perfect. Thanks for taking the questions.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Yep.

Operator

Our next question is from Ryan Koontz with Needham & Company. Please proceed with your question.

Ryan Koontz
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Needham & Company

Hey, good morning, guys. On the timing of your large customer churn, was that more of an impact to Q4 or Q1? How should we think about the kind of step down there and that impact on the numbers?

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

Yeah. In terms of the revenue, it's obviously an annual contract with on this specific event or situation, but most of the impact was on Q4 and Q1. It's going to turn around because of the fact that, as we mentioned, we are signing and closing more deals with them, with these specific customer. So with this specific customer. By the end of the day, the bottom line is that most of the impact is on Q1 and Q4 and Q1 of this year.

Going into the second part of the year, we already see this customer ramping up. As we mentioned, it's still going to be a very significant customer for us.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

I'd just say that from a professional services revenue, the bigger reduction was in Q4, albeit that there's a nice reduction in Q1. From a subscription, because it kind of builds up from the end of Q4, the bigger impact was in Q1 than it was in Q4.

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

The run rate on subscription revenue that we see with this specific customer, the second part of the year is basically the levels that we had before this specific situation. That's.

Ryan Koontz
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Needham & Company

Got it.

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

That's expectations.

Ryan Koontz
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Needham & Company

Great. I hear you're on the longer sales cycle, but on your hiring plans and your headcount and productivity, can you help us out there as far as you know, how you feel like you're positioned now and how much more you need to see, Ron, any more kind of color you can give us there is helpful. Thank you.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Sure. We ramped, and we noted the more than 40% year-over-year growth in the total count of ramped salespeople from Q4 2020 to Q4 2021. We're expecting to do the same this year. When we count that ramped as in, is six months after for sales and four months after for CSMs, for customer success managers. Obviously, at this point, and given longer sales cycles, doesn't mean that they're 100% yielding already. For sure, revenue comes in gradually after because this is the beginning of booking. It's that 40% is a nice increase. For years, it's been at zero, and then within one year it grew by 40%. It's under the number that we were planning, and we're catching up on that delta.

I think that in the coming year, 2022, we're gonna enjoy both. The increase that we had in 2021 is gonna bear fruit because they're gonna be in place for longer. They're gonna be addressing all these cycles that they're sitting now and selling against. We're also gonna have the new guys that are coming in 2022. Last thing I'd say is that we've launched also the inside sales/commercial sales initiative, and ramping people there to address low-touch products as well. That's supposed to help us as well.

Ryan Koontz
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Needham & Company

Got it. Thank you.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Pat Walravens with JMP Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Pat Walravens
Equity Research Analyst, JMP Securities

Oh, great. Thank you. I actually have two. Ron, first of all, I guess I would—I wonder, is the hybrid world playing out sort of the way you thought it would? You know, for example, in my kids' schools, I would have expected that they have the classroom set up so that if you have to stay home, you can still watch class, you know. But in fact, that's not what they're doing in the public schools. They went, you know, all the way back to in-person, and if you miss class, you miss class. Likewise, if you look in our industry, you know, a lot of these investor conferences you would have thought would have been hybrid, but a lot of them are actually going back, you know, full in person.

They're either all hybrid or all virtual or all in person. I just wonder if maybe our expectations around hybrid were overblown. What do you think?

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Yeah, that's a good question. I think first of all, that, you know, you're talking about K-12 school, I assume, and you, when you say your kids' school, you mean colleges?

Pat Walravens
Equity Research Analyst, JMP Securities

Yeah. That's eighth grade. No, that's eighth grade.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

I think first of all, K-12 takes longer than higher ed, just by the nature of things. I think that higher ed is changing quicker and has changed prior, and K-12 will continue to do so. I think that insofar as the large events and investor events, et cetera, the game in town is not so much hybrid, but mixed, so that when people are consuming, regardless of where they are, it doesn't really matter. They're gonna be consuming the same content because many of them might not be coming. It's not one or the other, it's both.

I think that there's gonna be more of that there'll be this ubiquitous solution that regardless where you sit, if you're sitting on stage or if you're not, you'll be able to consume the exact same thing. You could do one day at home, then appear for the second day, or it could be out for the entire days, and both the networking, engagement, follow-ups, and everything else will be equally done for all. I think that is the future. I think that while people don't know if 20% are gonna show up physically or 80% are gonna show up physically, people don't wanna disqualify those that would not be coming physically. I do think that is the future.

I think that for a long time in technology, people are trying to build a faster horse, not a car, and now people are thinking how you do this better. It's gonna take a bit of time. We're still very close, but it's shifting.

Pat Walravens
Equity Research Analyst, JMP Securities

Okay. Then my second question would be. I mean, look, at 1.5 x EV to revenue, obviously people are gonna be knocking on your door. What are the key points that you would want to share with investors in terms of how you guys are gonna respond to, and how you think about, you know, strategic interest from other people who'd wanna buy you?

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Got it. Look, I mean, the reason, and I'm not gonna get into price and what's a fair price or not, you know. I don't think that this necessarily is in line with our forecasts and where we're going, and definitely not for the strategic value of the company. You know, we've been growing and bringing certain business. There's a certain shift for a short period, and then it's gonna change yet again. I think it's more reacting to the very short term quarter, next quarter. Pertaining to your general question about reaction to strategic interest, we'll, you know, be sitting with folks and having whatever discussions we need to do to best represent the value for shareholders.

We are absolutely looking forward to what this company is worth, not in this quarter, not in next quarter, but in the quarters to come. It has nothing to do sometimes with the short-term situation. We're very bullish and very excited about the general direction of video and about the general direction of the company, and there's a lot of growth drivers in place to support our growth.

Pat Walravens
Equity Research Analyst, JMP Securities

Great. Thank you very much.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Thank you.

Operator

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from Param Singh with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.

Param Singh
Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

Hi. Thank you. Yeah, this is Param Singh, on behalf of Ittai Kidron, and thank you for taking my question. Thank you so much for all the color, and sorry to beat a dead horse, but really wanna understand the dynamic in the subscription revenue. You know, when I just look at your guide, it looks like, you know, your 12%-15% in one tier is higher than your full year 10%-13%. Given all the color that you've given, one would expect that it would pick up through the year and accelerate. Why this type of guide, and what is the dynamic that we are missing here, and how do you reconcile your productivity and high-end sales coming back with this type of subscription growth that is decelerating?

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Yeah. Thank you, Param. It's not so much decelerating. I mean, one thing to be careful about is these are looking at year-over-year growth rates. I think the best way to try to look at this is on sequential. Sequential has come down. We got a nice hit from that departure of projects from one of the customers, that, like I said, is doing more business with us and is growing again, and we have the partial slowdown. If you look at what we're expecting throughout the full quarters of the year, we're expecting sequential to gradually pick up. It's. We're not slowing down. It's just that when you superimpose that on last year's revenue and the behavior of last year, there could be various levels of growth.

The beginning of the year will show some slowdown in the year-over-year, then we're gonna see a big jump in the year-over-year. I think what we need to keep our eye on is what this means by way of sequential. Yaron, you wanna add?

Yaron Zamir
CFO, Kaltura

Yeah. I will not get into the specific because obviously we're not going to give guidance for the second part of the year. Definitely, we see a very nice acceleration in the sequential growth based on the fact that, as you can see, the first part of the year is basically flat, almost flat, and therefore, the second part is definitely accelerating quarter- after- quarter on a sequential basis.

Param Singh
Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

Got it. Thank you. You know, again, following up on one of the other questions. The work from home dynamic that's changing, I mean, have you seen any of the companies change the way they think about the number of virtual events that they're doing, the dollar spend that they're gonna do? Anything you could share that would be really helpful.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

I think the people understand that the spend on a virtual event is far, far lesser than on a physical event by order of magnitude. There is an eagerness to use these platforms in order to increase ROI on these events. I think it goes far beyond that. It's just the increase in reach and the quality of the engagement, the degree of analytics, and that's one of the things that we win by. Again, coming back to why Kaltura wins on virtual events, it's the degree of integration that we have into the different systems, the quality of the analytics that we could generate, and of course, the quality of video. Being a leader from the video space, there's folks in this industry that didn't have really video capabilities, so we're doing just physical events. We've come with this extremely powerful video side.

Coming back into the statement around not just ROI and reach, but the degree of data and analytics that could come out of it is really, really high. Yeah, there's very little doubt that there's gonna be a lot of these events. It's just a question of where do we fit within the ecosystem and this shift from flagship into full events, medium and small size, sell cycles that are associated with it. I think that's the bigger question.

Param Singh
Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

Got it. No, thank you so much for sharing that. Much appreciated.

Ron Yekutiel
Co-founder, Chairman, and CEO, Kaltura

Thank you, Param.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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