Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the First Quarter 2021 Linde Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference may be recorded.
I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. Juan Velez, Head of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Crystal, thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for attending our 2021 Q1 earnings call and webcast. I'm Juan Pelaez, Head of Investor Relations, and I'm joined this morning by Matt White, Chief Financial Officer and Sanjeev Lamba, Chief Operating Officer. Today's presentation materials are available on our website atlinde.com in the Investors section. Please read the forward looking statement disclosure on Page 2 of the slides and note that it applies to all statements made during this teleconference.
The reconciliations of the adjusted numbers are in the appendix to this presentation. Sanjeev and Matt will now give an update on Linde's business outlook and Q1 performance and will then be available to answer your questions. Sanjeet,
all yours.
Thanks, Suan, and good morning, everyone. Once again, The Linde team delivered another stellar quarter across all fronts: 32% growth in EPS, 57% growth in operating cash flows, Operating margins expanding 3 20 basis points and of course ROC at 14.5 percent. And of course, very strong progress across our ESG goals of reducing carbon intensity and making strides in gender diversity. Matt will walk through the details on the financial numbers, but frankly, they speak for themselves. A few months ago, we marked the 2 year anniversary of the merger.
So I'd like to take the opportunity to recap both our performance and also provide you a medium term outlook on expected financial performance going ahead. Let me move on to Slide 3. Slide 3 shows our 2018 to 2020 growth relative to key competitors across 4 major financial metrics: EPS, operating profit margin, operating cash flows and of course, very importantly, return on capital. From my perspective, these are the 4 most important financial metrics to determine performance in this industry. And it is of course quite clear from that slide as you see that we have led across all 4.
In fact, I'd say with some pride that Linde has the undisputed best performance in the entire industry since our merger. Our employees have accomplished this While integrating 2 global companies during possibly the worst pandemic in a century. But of course, This is nothing new. We have been the industry leader for almost 3 decades now. And I want to move on to Slide 4 and talk a little bit about that history of over 25 years from 1993 to 2017 as the last full year before the merger.
The compound annual growth rate of Linde's sales, EPS, dividend and operating cash flow exceeds both competitors Across the board, we have a long history of generating compound value for our shareholders, while sustainably and profitably growing the company. And of course Linde's outperformance extends beyond just our industry. On the right hand side over there, you can see The EPS CAGR that we've had over the same period against the broader S and P 500. So it's clear, we've been the industry leader for many years and we fully expect to continue that trend for decades to come. Our mid term strategy, which is on our next Slide 5, provides a roadmap on how we plan to get this.
Most of you have seen this strategy before. It's fairly straightforward and simple enough that we can summarize it on one page. It starts of course with optimizing our base business of industrial gases and engineering. I've said this before, our unique operating rhythm Provides a real competitive advantage and how we extract value year in and year out irrespective of the macroeconomic climate. We've of course proven this in the prior recessions and some black swan events including the most recent COVID pandemic.
So while our resilient business model provides downside protection, we also have the ability to leverage and any economic recovery due to our exposure to the cyclical end markets, primarily here through merchant and packaged gases. Of course, the pricing structure here also helps as it closely correlates with inflation. You've already seen some of that demonstrated in the last few quarters and I anticipate further upside if the economy continues to recover. Finally, we will continue to grow by capitalizing on future opportunities. Linde has demonstrated the highest compound growth rate in the industry across all key financial metrics and we expect to maintain this distinction.
Currently, there are secular growth drivers around 2 of our key markets that comprise about 30% of our sales. These are Healthcare and Electronics. You're all familiar with what is happening in the electronics space today. Our customers are looking to expand production of chips to meet soaring demand while improving and strengthening local supply chain logistics. We are an integral part of this development As industrial gases are a critical component to successfully operating a modern fab today, I fully expect electronics to comprise the largest portion of backlog wins over the next couple of years as we continue to see high levels of interest for new customer builds.
Furthermore, the healthcare market continues to grow as well, combination of demographics and trend towards telehealth. As you know, our Healthcare business, particularly the Home Care business, served as a critical second line of defense during the recent pandemic. And of course, we expect future trends to create new growth opportunities, allowing us to leverage our leading dense network to support momentum towards a distributed healthcare market. The combination of these strategic elements Should enable us to grow annual earnings per share on average more than 10%. That is something we've demonstrated throughout our history And we feel confident we can continue for the long term.
Now you will notice, I said 10% EPS outlook excludes The impact from the transition to clean energy. Currently, we view the benefits from this transition as incremental to our EPS outlook. Gene Energy, of course, is a hot topic, as you all know. In fact, I hadn't quite realized how many global hydrogen experts there really were until only 6 months ago. However, producing, storing and supplying hydrogen to enable cleaner fuels is something we've been doing for decades.
In fact, Hydrogen has been one of our fastest growing molecules over the past 10 years. So given this, I'd like to use the last few slides to provide you a view on the overall clean energy market, explain why Linde is exceptionally well positioned to succeed and share with you our overarching strategy going forward. But before I start, I want to state that we are not providing specific guidance on either expected sales Our wins from clean energy at this time. This is a rapidly evolving landscape with many countries taking different paths. So the pace of the transition is just too uncertain to make multiyear detailed projections.
However, what I can confirm is that Linde has the experience, the technology and the asset network to be a significant player in the transition. To further elaborate on this, I'd like to provide you our view of the clean energy market on the next slide, Slide 6. It's safe to say that nobody really knows how the decarbonization market will ultimately play out. So it may be helpful to start with an overview of We think of clean energy transition in 2 main pieces, the first being how we can provide solutions to managing carbon and the second relating to clean hydrogen development. Now we already have a number of significant applications that reduce, capture, sequester of clean and monetize gas streams for use.
A good example of this is our current carbon dioxide business at about 1,300,000,000 serving several key end markets. Looking ahead, we see more opportunities for our technologies and solutions to enable our customers to reduce their carbon footprint through capture and removal of their emissions. Furthermore, we believe Blue and green hydrogen will both play an important role in the transition to cleaner energy. In theory, The total available opportunity can be represented by the current $6,000,000,000,000 of hydrocarbon market. However, that will be served by a blend of solutions and will take years to evolve.
So as an example, One estimate assumes clean hydrogen will reach $100,000,000,000 by 2,030 or say roughly 1.5% of today's hydrocarbon market, But time will tell. Given the uncertainty, as I said before, I'm not going to provide you a specific estimate or timeline today, But I do want to reiterate that this is a significant opportunity for Linde and something we see as an upside to our base business. So with this as a backdrop, it may be helpful to understand what Linde brings to the table regarding technology, Asset network and experience, which you can find on the next slide, Slide 7. Whether it's production, Distribution or application and services. We have over 50 years of experience as an owner and an operator of 1,000,000,000 of dollars of hydrogen infrastructure.
We are agnostic to how that molecule is made, Whether it's through reforming, chemistry or bioelectrolysis, we have the technology and the operating expertise for all of them. Furthermore, we have the largest and the most dense hydrogen distribution network in the world. This will be crucial to ensuring a safe, reliable and cost effective energy transition. Our technology, Many proprietary applications and extended service capabilities position us exceptionally well for this opportunity. And finally, we also have the ability to leverage our engineering business to integrate various technologies into solutions And to offer sale of gas or selectively sale of equipment, providing us a unique competitive advantage.
Overall, we have a very long and successful history supporting the transition to clean energy and I believe we are incredibly well positioned across the entire value chain as this initiative accelerates. I'd like to wrap up the clean energy discussion on the next slide, Slide 8, with a view of our overarching strategy and give you some key supporting examples as well. The strategy on the left is something we've mentioned before. It represents a proven approach to profitably growing an industrial gas business, including hydrogen. It starts with leveraging our leading integrated asset network.
In addition to that, We execute locally, market driven strategies. We believe many of these initiatives will vary by country. We also expect to continue to advance and grow our technology leadership in this space across the value chain by leveraging the expertise of our engineering team as well as developing partnerships that provide us access, insight and hopefully accelerate opportunities. Now on the right hand side of the slide, you'll see 3 projects we recently announced. I just want to remind you that these are part of our base CapEx and therefore not included in the $3,500,000,000 backlog.
These projects are over $350,000,000 for green and blue hydrogen infrastructure in South Korea, Germany and the United States. Just to pick on the example in South Korea, we are partnering with 1 of the largest industrial conglomerates to build out a liquid hydrogen infrastructure to fuel municipality buses there. We continue to evaluate a significant and growing number of opportunities from large mega projects to very small ones. But irrespective of the size of the opportunity, we will always maintain our disciplined approach to pursuing projects that meet our investment criteria. This summarizes our mid term strategy and how we currently sleep the clean energy market, But this is something I'll provide more updates on in the future as it continues to evolve.
Now before I hand over to Matt, I wanted to make one final point on our ESG initiatives. Simply said, ESG is embedded in our culture. It's part of our operating rhythm and it's part of our compensation philosophy. It has been an integral part of our values and forms the foundation of Linde's mission statement, making our world more productive. I'm pleased to say we are currently tracking ahead in many of the initiatives we laid out in early 2020, including carbon emission intensity reduction and increasing gender diversity.
But this isn't enough. We know we need to do more. We are therefore in the process of thoughtfully developing more ambitious ESG goals, which I expect to share with you in a future call. But until then, you can be certain that we will continue to improve our performance in this area. So with that, I'd now hand over to Matt who will take you through the financial results and our guidance.
Matt? Thanks, Sanjeev.
Please turn to Slide 9 for an overview of the Q1 results. Before I jump into the numbers, I'd like to remind you that we deconsolidated a joint venture in APAC, which reduces sales and operating profit by about 3%, But has no effect on EPS since we are maintaining a consistent ownership position. This deconsolidation is shown as a divestiture and we provide further details in the APAC segment results, which you can find in the appendix. Total sales grew 7% from last year and were flat sequentially. Underlying sales increased 5% from prior year and 2% sequentially.
Volumes continue to recover, Growing 3% over last year and 1% over the 4th quarter. Sequentially, Negative seasonal effects and temporary outages in the U. S. Gulf Coast from Storm Bury were more than offset by a broad based increase in volumes. Industrial production levels have consistently risen in most geographies, which supports volume recovery in the packaged and merchant supply modes.
And note that while Urie had a temporary negative effect on sales For the Q1, profit impact was immaterial due to our contractual structure. Referring to our end market trends in the appendix, every end market grew sequentially and over prior year, Except for food, mostly due to restaurant closures and seasonality in GIST, our distribution business in the UK. Pricing improvements of 2% is in line with globally weighted inflation. Since the majority of our contracts Have mechanisms in place to adjust for local cost inflation. Operating profit increased 25% over prior year from a combination of higher pricing, incremental volumes and a lower cost base.
Furthermore, operating margins expanded 320 basis points, which marks the 7th consecutive quarter that we have expanded operating margins more than 200 basis points. EPS of $2.49 Grew 32% from last year and 8% sequentially. You can see the wider than normal growth rate differential between operating profit and EPS, which is mostly driven by the joint venture deconsolidation. We had another strong quarter in capital management with operating cash flow up 57% And return on capital reaching 14.5%. ROC levels have been trending well As we continue to grow earnings by double digit percent, while maintaining a disciplined and focused capital allocation process.
CapEx is down 5% from prior year as temporary declines in project backlog spending More than offset increases in growth projects categorized as base CapEx. Approximately 40% of base CapEx is for growth, including the clean energy projects Sanjeev mentioned, As well as the majority of small on-site wins we announced yesterday. Overall, these results Clearly validate our positive leverage to the economic recovery, while offering significant downside protection as evidenced in 2020. Slide 10 provides an update on our capital management process. It starts with cash generation, which you can see on the left side.
Linde employees have done a great job focusing on cash conversion and thus making more capital available for the company to deploy. Available operating cash flow, which we define as operating cash flow less base CapEx, Has exceeded $1,500,000,000 for the last two quarters. And while we continue to generate healthy levels of cash, how we spend it is equally important, which is shown on the right half of the slide. Our capital allocation process is simple and consistent. We have a mandate to maintain an A credit rating And raise the dividend every year.
After which, our priority is to invest in growth that meets our criteria. And then any leftover cash is used for stock repurchases. The pie chart represents how we spent the Q1 operating cash, Investing $800,000,000 to grow and returning $1,400,000,000 to shareholders. This approach provides balance, but more importantly, forms the foundation of the strategy and earnings outlook provided by Sanjeev. I'll wrap up with guidance, which you can find on Slide 11.
The Q2 guidance range is $2.50 to $2.55 The midpoint represents an increase of 33% over 2020 38% over 2019. I believe it's important to provide the 2019 comparison to properly distinguish between true growth, which this demonstrates from mere recovery, which other companies may be showing. This guidance includes an estimated year over year FX tailwind of 4% since Q2 of 2020 was the low point on foreign currency weakness. Sequentially, this range assumes stable economic conditions with a moderate improvement related to normal seasonality. In other words, the Q2 guidance range does not assume any improvement in the underlying economy from Q1.
Note that preliminary April results came in better than our internal estimates. So if these conditions persist, Q2 EPS would be at the upper end or above this range. The updated full year guidance range is $9.60 to $9.80 or $0.50 higher than what we provided last quarter. The midpoint of the range is 18% above 202032% above 2019. I'd like to explain how we approached full year guidance, especially as it relates to the half year comparisons.
At this point, we have updated full year for the better performance in Q1 and the latest Q2 outlook, of which this first half year combined was approximately $0.50 better. However, we have not updated the second half guidance. In other words, we left the second half alone until we get a better sense of the recovery pace. Rest assured, we will capture any improvement in the economy as we have recently demonstrated. Furthermore, we will provide a more detailed update next quarter.
However, today, We are refraining from adjusting the back half until we get more visibility. Of course, if economic conditions hold Or improve, we will be above this full year range. But for now, we believe this is the most prudent approach given the global uncertainty. I'd now like to turn the call over for Q and A.
And our first question comes from Bob Koort from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Thank you very much. Good morning. I appreciate the comments, Sanjeev, on the hydrogen market Obviously, a lot of uncertainties how it all develops. I was curious, you put forth maybe an implied Green hydrogen price in the future that's still 2 to 3 times the price of gray hydrogen. And I'm just curious, do you think the world's going to need some carbon tax or some other ways to incentivize adoption of green hydrogen?
How do you sort of see that developing?
Thanks, Bob. That's a great question. I'm sure a lot of people are discussing that very fact as we speak, Bob. So You're absolutely right. Today, we do see that differential between green hydrogen to gray and blue hydrogen.
Obviously, blue hydrogen is somewhere in the middle, Providing a more immediate scalable option. But green hydrogen for it to kind of get to a point of inflection where adoption really happens, Essentially, three things need to happen. The first, regulators across the world need to get to a view on what carbon tax, What carbon pricing or other mechanisms that create that incentive to go and do something about it are put in place? We can talk about what that range might look like if you like, but that's a necessity. The second is, we've got to see the technology evolve and get down to a point where you're seeing Significant reduction in cost.
There are 2 costs of green hydrogen as you're well aware, Bob. 1 is obviously renewable energy becoming cheaper. I know there's a lot of work happening in that space. And equally, we are doing a lot of work on the second option, which is about making sure that our plant CapEx comes down. So working through ITM on the PEM option as an example, but also making sure that efficiencies around that the membranes improve Sufficiently to give us a little bit of lift there as well.
So all of those three things need to happen, Bob, for really adoption to happen, the inflection point that I referenced earlier
Perfect. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from P. J. Juvekar from Citi. Your line is open.
Yes. Hi, good morning. First of all, I want to thank you and give a shout out to your employees in India, You helped tremendously in getting oxygen to hospitals during this tragic situation. So thank you there. And then my question is, As commodity prices go up for all kinds of commodities, with strong demand in metals and Chemicals and General Manufacturing, if your customers are seeing inflation, is it does it help you to get price as well from those customers?
And then your pricing in Americas seems to have accelerated in 1Q compared to last few quarters. So can you just talk about this pricing dynamic? Thank you.
Thanks, P. J. So I appreciate that shout out And with family in India, I'm kind of acutely aware of how challenging the situation is there. I want to take maybe just a couple of minutes, P. J, before I get to your question to To just talk briefly about how proud we are over here on our team in India, who are currently working round the clock to support Hospitals, patients, saving lives, everything they do, it's kind of focused on that.
The teams also kind of reworked Their whole operating philosophy to produce more than 3,000 tons per day of medical oxygen, that's almost tenfold what we were producing and delivering just 4 weeks ago. So a huge amount of work has gone in there. We've deployed about 1200 drivers on the roads, serving about 1,000 hospitals in the country. There's been phenomenal work being done on that. I thought it's appropriate that I just take a moment to kind of cover that.
Of course, being a global corporation, Linde globally has been able to help as well. We've airlifted 40 plus ISO containers. They are now helping the supply chains in the country Another 40 to go in the days ahead. Government's obviously taken on many of our ideas. You've seen the oxygen express that's going around India.
Also that's something that we've helped put in place and using the armed forces in many cases to move oxygen across various locations in the country. So A country in deeply challenging situation, but we're doing all we can as is appropriate. I also want to just maybe quickly add A quick word of appreciation for our teams in Brazil, Mexico, other LatAm countries. Obviously, they didn't get the same kind of press, The reality is they were faced with similar challenges and have done enormously good work to support hospitals and patients. So I'm really proud that our teams across the world are doing their bit to support our communities through this pandemic.
Now, P. J, I'm going to kind of more specifically talk to your question on inflation and Our view on inflation, as you know, we price to a weighted average on inflation typically. And as we think about inflation, our Kind of natural conclusion there is that we will see prices going up as inflation happens and we as you know have a great track record of being able to do that Consistently, in fact, even when inflation wasn't quite there, you've seen us perform on our pricing. Our history on pricing is positive If you go back 20 years as well and that's kind of the DNA that the team carries to move forward on the pricing piece. So Fully expect to see that happening as inflation does come into play.
And P. J, this is Matt. I may just add 1 or 2 things to what Sanjay said. I think As a reminder, as you well know, any commodity costs or inputs we have, we pass all them through. That's contractual.
And then the only second thing I'd add is what we've seen in these patterns before and 2011 is a good example, I'd say 2,000 6, 7 are a good example and even 2016. When you do see some rebound in commodities, our customers' volumes tend to increase a lot. Their consumption of gas is also tends to go up. So we'll see to what extent you can see that as well. I mean, we're starting to see parts of it.
But that also tends to be a positive tailwind with just overall industrial activity.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Tony Jones from Redburn. Your line is open.
Yes. Good morning from London, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about margins and there are 2 parts to the question. So first, you reported margins which continue to surprise.
We've got 100 basis points or so of sequential improvement. I wanted to just ask, is this now a sustainable level? I know you call out the deconsolidation effect, but are there any temporary gains we need to adjust for With OpEx down now around $2,000,000,000 And then the second part of it, and maybe it's more important, is this as good as it gets? Or do you think there's further potential for margins to improve as you get further productivity improvements over time? Thank you.
Hey, Tony. This is Matt. I could probably handle that and see if Sanjay has any other input. So I think on the margins going up, yes, absolutely, we see it as sustainable. There's nothing temporary.
And just to confirm, the deconsolidation had no effect on margins. Even if you look at the APAC in the appendix where we show kind of the effect, you can see the margins are pretty much the same. So The deconsolidation had no effect. And again, I'm referring to operating margins obviously as well here, Operating profit. So we absolutely see it as sustainable.
This is something that this is a hard work that everyone in the world is doing. This is about putting together quality business and making sure we run it efficiently and effectively. And as far as as good as it gets, we get asked that question every quarter. But I would say this, and I've said it before, just look at the segments, right? When you look at the geographic segments of Americas, EMEA And APAC, there's nothing that is fundamentally different between those three segments.
We do the same thing. It is a very homogeneous business. They supply across all three supply modes. They have end market distributions that aren't drastically different. So that kind of defines what the opportunity set is.
And if you go back to 2018, Americas was 23%, EMEA was 17%. Now EMEA is Over 25% and Americas 28%. So you're seeing the improvement across the board, APAC as well, almost 25% was 17%. This is part of what we're doing to run this business and I don't see any temporary aspect and I would say whichever segment It's leading, it's kind of showing the way. The only thing Matt I'd add is that
both EMEA and APAC Are heading for that Americas margin, right? They're pretty competitive guys out there.
That's great. Appreciate the detail. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Nicola Tang from Exane BNP Paribas. Your line is open.
Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. First, I wanted to ask a little bit about the second half outlook and I completely hear you on sort of the volume assumption or the sort of lack of volume assumption, I suppose. But if I look How you've guided implies an H2 EPS growth of only about 5% versus, I don't know, 30% plus in the first half, which I was just thinking seems a bit aggressive just thinking about the productivity gains that you just talked about, support from the buyback, I guess, even the FX tailwinds Before we even think about volumes, so I was just wondering if there was anything I was missing there in terms of the H2 versus H1 dynamics on a year on year basis. And then the second question is on the other H2 on hydrogen.
Thanks a lot for that detail on Clean Energy. Clearly, Again, I hear you in terms of the timing being uncertain and some of the opportunities being long dated. But when you look at those pipeline of projects that you're sort of evaluating, In which part of the sort of value chain in hydrogen are you seeing the most project proposals at the moment? Is it broad based across The sort of production end, the distribution and fueling end or is it in a specific kind of activity? Thank you.
Okay, Nicholas, it's Matt. I can take the first one and Sanjeev will take the second. So as I mentioned in the pre remarks, we really we just didn't touch it. Obviously, there's a lot of companies not even giving guidance today. We have a very high degree of confidence in what we're laying out and that we can deliver on that.
But as far as the second half right now, we felt we would just leave it alone, adjust the year for what we've demonstrated and our view on Q2. But rest assured, 3 months from now, we will update that back half. And as I mentioned, if conditions hold, well then, yes, we are going to do better than this. Obviously, if they improve, we would also do better. But for now, we just felt we'll take it kind of quarter by quarter, a little bit of a wait and see approach.
And therefore, I wouldn't really look into too much other than that on the second half at this point.
Thanks, Matt and Nicola. Now moving on to the exciting H2 part of the question that you asked. So Let me just take a step back and give you a sense of the projects we're looking at and then dive a little bit deeper and tell you where we see some of that kind of build up that you were asking about. So We're evaluating at the moment between 210 to 220 opportunities individually. Some, as I mentioned, some very large mega projects and down to the smaller ones as well.
And we see, obviously, many of them progressing, some maybe not. And there'll be others that we will probably not want to do because they don't meet our investment criteria. So we'll be kind of selective about that as well. Now we see that spread Focused in 2 specific areas primarily. I think mobility driving a lot is kind of well ahead if you like in its development And then carbon capture and sequestration picking up, particularly in geographies, which have oil and gas assets and therefore want to understand how best to Manage the energy transition through this piece.
To your exact point on which part of the value chain we see it, I In Mobility, it tends to be a little bit of a balance between what we see around production versus distribution and dispensation. We have technologies across the entire value chain. So in many ways, we are really fortunate to have the ability to kind of be able to provide that holistic solution To our potential customers, on CCS, obviously, it tends to be a lot more on the production side, which is where the blue hydrogen piece in particular as a consequence of CCS comes into play. I hope that gives you enough color to what you were asking for, Nicola.
Yes, absolutely. That's great. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from David Begleiter from Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
Thank you. Good morning, Sanjeev and Matt. On the same point, just on you're looking at your project CapEx Going forward, how much is focused on clean energy and or hydrogen this year? And how you think that will trend or increase over the next perhaps 3 to 5 years?
Hey, David, this is Matt. So I think right now there's very little to any. And as we mentioned on the Most of the clean energy are in the base CapEx. So those three projects we highlighted are all base CapEx. And to Sanjeev's point, you're seeing a lot In either areas of mobility, this is more distribution assets or assets around the density that we're building in certain areas.
So that is something that when they do come into the backlog, obviously, we'll note that. But at this point, the vast majority What we're doing right now is part of that growth in the base CapEx.
Very good. And just on merchant pricing, how much merchant And given the inflation we're seeing overall, should that be increasing over the next few quarters going forward?
So David, on merchant pricing, we're kind of seeing low to mid single digits across the different markets that we talk about typically. Americas and EMEA tend to lead as you've seen from their pricing numbers and APAC is a little bit behind, but they are hearing this call and they know that I'm looking to them to Sure, show some improvement sequentially in the next quarter as well. So we're kind of seeing across the board pricing kind of move up. Now Your point on inflation, I think I mentioned this earlier as well, David. With inflation, our pricing will go up.
That's been traditionally how we've seen our pricing move And we are well prepared and there is enough conversation within the organization already in terms of how we will be managing that. So I'd expect to see with inflation pricing continue to move in line.
Thank you very much.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Duffy Fischer from Barclays. Your line is open.
Yes, good morning. Wanted to just follow-up on that one if I could. The pricing in APAC in particular, has kind of been flat at 1% for the last 4 quarters, even though at the beginning of that period volumes were kind of down 9% and now they're up 10%. And I understand Not a commodity business, but generally when you're getting that kind of volume increase, asking for price gets a little bit easier. Is there something offsetting your ability to get Sarah, where maybe somebody who owns their own oxygen units is dumping more on the market as they're ramping up their steel production or something like that.
So how should we think about APAC pricing in particular given the strong volumes we're seeing there?
Hey Duffy, thanks for the question. I'm glad you asked it because my impact team will be listening to this as well. So there is nothing Structurally different that should fundamentally change the pricing targets that we've handed out to our teams over there. The market is a little bit different in terms of the distributor kind of model that is in some of the larger geographies over there And in some cases, the level of on-site we have. But putting that aside for a moment, our view is pricing in APAC should hit the 2% target that we have as a corporation.
And at the moment, I see progress happening. The 1% is disappointing. They know that and My expectation is sequentially we'll see at least 1% improvement in Q2 and I'm hoping to see 2% year on year in Q2 as well. So Nothing there is nothing holding them back from that.
Terrific. Thank you, guys.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeff Zekauskas from JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Thanks very much. In listening to Matt's description of prices going up a Couple of percent, but there being inflationary pressure. Does that mean that the price cost benefit And the quarter was 0, that is prices went up 2% and costs went up 2%. And secondly, do you have an update on your project with Exxon in Singapore? That is, have you begun to spend for that?
Hi, Jeff. I can take the first one and Sanjeev here will take the second one. Sure. So as you well know, the spread of our price Less cost inflation of productivity is a very important metric that is part of our operating rhythm that we Look at every country at the lowest levels of detail because that spread is very important. How we manage that spread as the compound decades And every country is different, right?
Every country has different inflation profiles, but the spread is something we constantly look at. So given in the Q1 here, obviously, we have the price at the top of the house at 2%. On our cost front, they were lower, As you probably saw, especially on the fixed costs, just due to some efficiencies we were able to achieve, we're also achieving efficiencies in the variable cost. So the spread was probably a little wider in this Q1. But nevertheless, on a go forward basis, we always have to make sure we manage that And we feel quite confident in our ability to do it.
And also the things the large commodity inputs since we pass them through, they don't create as much Issues on that as you might see in other types of industries. So for us, it's really managing a lot of the fixed costs and the operating costs and the SG and A, which is Part of what we do with this Rhythm.
And Jeff, let me move on and talk a little bit about the Singapore project that you mentioned. So As far as our project is concerned, we have obviously been impacted by COVID on the schedule itself, but we have been executing the project. We've been Spending on the project, we have commitments in place and the project is currently underway. Our first modules, in fact, Very large modules have now reached the site and are in the staging area. So progress happening as we speak.
Great. Thank you so much.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Steve Byrne from Bank of America, your line is open.
Yes, thank you. Sanjeev, you were talking about having a couple of 100 Clean energy projects that you're looking at and you lay out a pretty clear case on the Slide 7 about Linde's expertise and capabilities in that whole supply chain, there's one area that I don't see mentioned that Would seem to be an advantage for you, but I welcome your comment on that and that is Access to renewable power or maybe as we stated, the contracts that you have With power suppliers, it would suggest that you would have a meaningful advantage there in terms of electricity pricing from renewable power versus The many new entrants that are getting into this business, can you comment on that?
Thanks, Steve. That's a great point you make and actually we should probably have mentioned that on that slide. So well suggested. The way we think about renewable power and you're absolutely right, we are one of the largest consumers in most countries where we operate and therefore we have, If you like the collective ability to go and have those conversations with our power suppliers and now what tends to happen on Renewal Power, if I can just take a step back is to tell you that The grid by itself and many of these suppliers as a consequence of conversations that we're having with them are actually moving and the level of renewable power within the grid itself It's continuing to grow. So that's good that we are seeing action from these larger players.
In addition to that, obviously, we then go out Specifically and sign up PPAs with renewable power kind of developers who In some cases, on a 1 on 1 basis, in other cases on a shared basis, we would then get into long term contracts with Often providing them support for their broader project as well. And in each one of these cases, because of our incumbency, We have well established methodology as to how we get pricing on that renewable power, whether it's in the circumstances of the grid or whether it's on So that is a competitive advantage. You're right. And obviously, our incumbency provides that and it's something that we focus on Quite a bit as we move ahead.
And Steve, Matt, I can just add a few things as well. So as you may know, today about a third of our power It's renewable already. So we've already been quite active in that space and it's not something we built overnight. This has taken many years To get to that point. And as we mentioned, we will give a more wholesome ESG or fulsome, I should say, ESG update In the future and this is an integral part of our ESG initiatives especially around managing scope 2 Emissions is the renewable power effort.
So this is something that we absolutely are actively doing. We have been doing for quite a long period of time. And we'll give further updates as it relates to that on our initiatives for ESG. And to your point, given our position, we are able to help These investments and it's something we're actively working on and looking for today.
And can either of you comment on Where you think you are in the achievement of the cost synergies that you initially laid out with the merger With Praxair and Linde, do you think you've reached you're coming to the end of that process or do you think that you've got a long way to go?
Steve, there's never an end to being efficient and productive. So it is there's no end. It's something we have to continue to do and it's integrated to our culture. But as you know, we measure ourselves on our performance. How did we deliver?
And that's always we gave you a number as you know, But in the same token, we said, judge us on our performance. How do we expand margins? How do we grow EPS? How do we manage return on capital? How do we generate excess cash?
How do we grow? Looking back in the 2 years as we started this presentation, I think we've demonstrated on a relative basis, we've done a pretty good job. We've got a good start The last couple of years and so this is going to be the foundation for what we're going to continue to do going forward.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from John McNulty from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Yes. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to dig into the release that you had put out the other day on the small on-site contracts for 2020 to maybe get a little bit more Call. Can you speak to whether this was a lot of oxygen units for COVID or if it was more a sign This recession is maybe a little bit different and the snapback from some of the smaller customers out there was maybe quicker. And then I guess as a follow-up to that, Would you say that business is a little bit of a leading indicator for how we should be thinking about the larger scale projects and the demand for those?
John, thanks for that question. I must admit that we are really proud of our small on-site portfolio And something that we believe provides a really fulsome growth kind of opportunity for our businesses across the world. So there are a couple of ways to kind of look at that portfolio and see how that correlates to what we're seeing in the market. So we're seeing That growth not coming from COVID, there is no linkage to that at all. Most of these units are VPSA units, which are slightly lower Purity typically going into industrial processes.
We do that for pulp and paper. We've seen a fair amount of growth in pulp and paper. We are seeing growth in some other ancillary segments around metals as well, and glass and many others in fact. So I mean, it is a widespread portfolio that supports a large number of different industries. I would say to you that it's a good pointer to industrial activity generally.
I don't see a particular correlation for larger projects, if that was your question, but we do see this kind of correlate to industrial activity. And as people move, Their consumption increases, these come into play.
Got it. And maybe
yes, sorry, go ahead, Matt.
I was
just going to add one quick point to that. I think it probably a little bit to Steve's earlier question. I mean, as you know, we never gave revenue synergies. That was not something we committed a number to. But This area was an area where when we brought both companies together, it really filled out the product line portfolio with the small on-site plants.
And this is an area where I think we've had a very strong Execution given the combination of the technologies and capabilities from the merger of the company. And I think the success rate kind of speaks to that.
Got it. No, and it makes sense. I mean, and I guess maybe again as a follow-up to that, when you I don't normally I guess if there is such a thing around recessions, it takes about 18 months to 24 months for kind of the larger scale projects, the project backlogs to start Filling back up again, I guess given the snapback that we've seen in a lot of the industrial economy, does it look like in the conversations that you're having, is Is that going to be a little more short lived in terms of how long it takes to get that kind of flywheel working on the big projects again? How should we be thinking about that?
So John, just kind of commenting briefly on the level of activity we're seeing because that in many ways is that leading indicator. So we're seeing proposal activity We're seeing that increasing in the U. S, we're seeing it increasing across Asia. I think about China, South Korea, India, Couple of the ASEAN markets as well. So we're seeing a lot more projects now.
A part of these projects are electronics. You've heard me talk about electronics before, what a strong growth we've seen in the quarter and my expectation is that we will see a lot more of electronic project growth happen As we see these new fab buildups happen as well, they are progressing well. They're all on track and you've seen a number of announcements, I'm sure from TSMC, Samsung, Intel and so on and so forth. So those are all looking to be on track and powered by the activity. I also have to say that the other piece I'm a little more positive on is the more traditional markets, Steel, chemicals, refining also project activity actually picking up over there as we see.
So I'm not going to comment particularly on if we are seeing potentially this as a snapback. I see this as fundamental underlying activity picking up And translating them into projects that people are pursuing and we are getting a chance to participate in.
Great. Thanks very much for the color.
Thank you. And our next question comes from Peter Clark from Societe Generale. Your line is open.
Yes. Good afternoon, everyone. I've got 2 questions. First one for Sanjeev, I think. About the productivity being embedded, obviously, in the PLC, Is the story now on productivity more about not adding costs back if the volumes continue to grow rather than savage cost cutting as such?
Because I did notice, obviously, Q4 we'll get the Q1 numbers later in terms of the headcount and the severance costs. But they did slow obviously in the Q4 from the pace earlier in the year. And then for Matt on the cash flow, I mean the Q1 performance now is what You would normally see in the legacy company seasonally in Q4, which is normally the strongest quarter. I'm just wondering how that progresses through the year, given that you always make more money in the second half. Thank you.
Peter, thanks. I'm going to give you a quick View on productivity. So you've heard me say this before and I think Matt kind of made a very good observation earlier on, which is that We are always going to be very, very focused on managing our cost base. Our total cash fixed cost is something we kind of discuss every month at the Business reviews that we carry out. So adding costs back is something we kind of manage actively.
I think it doesn't necessarily translate into productivity because For Productivity, we want to see that incremental action as well, which makes it tough, but it is in the DNA of the organization, Peter, and you've heard me talk Kind of passionately about the fact that every individual in our organization has got a mandate to go out and look for productivity every day. It's thousands of projects which add small benefits but actually flow into the entire productivity part that we put together. There's one other thing which I think is now enabling that or helping us accelerate that and that's around digitalization. And again, Hopefully, you've heard me speak about this as well before. We're using digitalization not as a significant tool that's going to Create earth shattering new discoveries for us, but it's something that we apply in our business to deal with pain points every day.
Our organizational model is embedded within the organization. So digital kind of expertise is being built up within every business Across the world and we are encouraging them and in fact I track it every quarter to ask them what percentage of productivity is coming from digital work or initiatives that we put in place. So that is an enabler that I see in actually ensuring our productivity stays on track.
Yes. And so Peter on the cash, yes, pretty solid Q1 cash. I think starting with when I think about operating cash flow kind As a percentage of our EBITDA, we were almost high 80s this quarter. Normally, to your point, Q1 is seasonally lower. So I think it's a combination of a few things.
I mean, first of all, obviously with EPS growing at 32%, half of the benefit just came from earnings. So as we continue to have strong earnings growth that should flow right through the cash flow. The other half of the year over year improvement was mostly working capital as we had nets everywhere else. And we're just seeing strong performance around the world in terms of collections, management of payables, inventory, just managing the asset and liability Quite well. Engineering had a very strong working capital performance as well as they continue to manage their projects incredibly well under different difficult circumstances.
As you look forward into the second half, I think it should just be a continuation of an earnings driven with tight working capital management efforts. So If we can continue to see kind of the strong results that should flow through to cash. I mean cash is an integral part of our compensation. It's something That we track very diligently each month and we're seeing the benefits I think of that effort and we should continue to see the benefits of that effort looking forward.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeff Haire from UBS. Your line is open.
Good morning. Just two quick questions. First of all, I was just wondering, Matt, if you could help us sort of Think about what your pricing assumptions are within the guidance for the second half of the year. And then also, obviously, you had very strong pricing in Europe and North America relative to at least one of your peers. I was just wondering what was driving that and how sustainable that is?
Yes, Jeff. So probably as stated before, I guess, two points. Number 1, we fully continue to expect to price to weighted inflation. And since the second half guidance, we really didn't touch, it would be based on kind of a 3 month ago view. But As you know, last quarter, we had about a 2% pricing this quarter, 2% pricing.
Now you don't see the 1st decimal, but we are seeing a bit of improvement As inflation kind of picks up, but that's what the expectation would be, just continue to price to the weighted inflation is what our views are when we look forward. Thanks.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Vincent Andrews from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Thanks very much. Just wanted to follow-up on the green hydrogen discussion. I heard sort of very clear and very confident Point of view on the opportunity set and in particular that it would be in excess of the 10% Compounding that you anticipate sort of from the core business. And I guess I just want to better understand as we think about sort of Our CapEx that we're putting in our models in the sort of the medium to long term, how much do you think that would Scale up and overall what implications that would have to broader capital allocation? Thanks.
Hey, Vince, it's Matt. So I think a couple of things. First, as we mentioned, right now, the vast majority of these projects are falling under base CapEx And we would anticipate to continue to see growth in base CapEx primarily around either Distribution infrastructure type assets to support and some production assets, whether it be electrolyzers or other kinds of Smaller hydrogen producing assets. So from that perspective, I would model that 40% or more growth portion of the base CapEx Might accelerate related to these initiatives. If there are any backlog projects, they would likely be announced In terms of being additions to the backlog, but I would say from a CapEx spend and benefit, we're not changing our investment criteria.
It's the same. How we approach these is the same. And so I would just model it just like Sanjeev said, It's incremental to the greater than 10% EPS growth rate that we're looking to do and what we find and can add Into this should be accretive to that over the coming years here.
So we don't need to take CapEx Forecast into the high 3 billions or anything like that?
No, that would only happen as a function of any large projects. And I think from that perspective, we'll See if they meet our investment criteria, yes. But that's something that we'd mentioned that we've got over 200 projects we're evaluating. And we meet our investment criteria, we will spend and we should want to spend that CapEx. But we've shown, I think, with our metrics that we keep our discipline and keep our approach.
We should get the right growth and the right And keep our approach, we should get the right growth and the right results.
Okay. Thanks very much. Appreciate it.
Thank you. And we'll take our last question from Kevin McCarthy from Vertical Research Partners. Your line is open.
Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Matt, in your prepared remarks, you made a comment that April results exceeded your internal expectations. And I was wondering if you could comment on what accounted for that variance, if anything stood out in terms of region or end use market? And then secondly, if I may, you mentioned Yuri was a drag on sales.
What was that drag? And How did you insulate the profit from being impactful? I appreciate you have contracts, but Would have thought maybe there would be a slight impact in your merchant and or packaged gas business. So I'm wondering if you just simply recovered by the end of March if you're able to offset through electricity sales or otherwise.
Hi, Kevin. It's Matt. I can do the first one and Sanjay will take the second one. So my comment related to April, it was fairly broad based. I would say for the most part, what we've been seeing is recovery in developed markets On the industrial front, some developing markets are still in some areas going through some challenges, but the expectation is probably by the back end of the quarter.
We hope to see some industrial activity rebounding, but I would say it's for the most part incremental industrial activity, Especially in certain developed markets like you're seeing in North America, especially places like Asia, it's really what's driving it. Pretty much a continuation of what we've
And Kevin, moving on to Yuri then and just it's a good opportunity for me to just mention Our team in Texas did an outstanding job. They've managed to ensure that we shut down and started off safely, quickly. We were able to support our customers And even in some cases, some of the players who are not our customers to just make sure that they remain safe and Helping them with their startups as well. So our customers really have actually started up and are operational now, whether it's refineries, chemicals, All of them back online and we are seeing volumes back to pre COVID levels in some cases as well, particularly on the chemical side. Bulk customers, again, I think we saw a quick turnaround over there post the winter freeze.
And again, with some support from us, our customers are back up and we see levels back to January already in that space as well. Refinery is probably the most specific one where you know that they have a longer lead time to start ups. Even there, We were quite pleased to see that they were up and running in 3 or 4 weeks. And today, hydrogen volumes are about 12%. I think they're about higher than Where we were earlier in the year.
So again, it's been pretty good in terms of how that overall piece has been managed. I guess the point The guys in Texas said to me, which I think holds here as well is we're used to seeing storms, hurricanes, freezes. This is not new. This is something that We work on every year and we've got a team that fully understands that and getting plants back online is significantly important making sure our customers Have the product available to keep them safe and ready to go. Contractually, obviously, we are well protected as you've just remarked.
That's one of the reasons we don't see a significant exposure, while we see some top line movement. But again, from March to April, we've seen that uplift come back fairly quickly as well.
Thank you. And that does conclude our question and answer session for today's conference. Now like to turn the call back over to Juan Pelaez for any closing remarks.
Crystal, thank you. And everyone in line, thank you very much for participating today. If you have any further questions, please feel free to reach out. Have a great rest of
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