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Earnings Call: Q3 2023

Nov 9, 2023

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the LiqTech Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2023 Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Robert Blum with Lytham Partners. Please go ahead.

Robert Blum
Managing Partner and Investor Relations, Lytham Partners

All right. Thank you very much, Andrea, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss LiqTech International's Third Quarter 2023 Financial Results for the period ending September 30, 2023. Joining us on today's call from the company are Fei Chen, the company's Chief Executive Officer, and Simon Stadil, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Before I turn the call over to management, let me remind listeners that there will be an open Q&A session at the end of the call today. Before we begin with prepared remarks, we submit for the record the following statement. This conference call may contain forward-looking statements.

Although the forward-looking statements reflect the good faith and judgment of management, forward-looking statements are inherently subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to be materially different from those discussed during the conference call. The company, therefore, urges all listeners to carefully review and consider the various disclosures made in the reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including risk factors that attempt to advise interested parties on the risks that may affect our business, financial condition, operations, and cash flows. If one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, or if the underlying assumptions prove incorrect, the company's actual results may vary materially from those expected or projected. The company therefore encourages all listeners not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which pertain only as of this date and the date of the release and conference call.

The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect any events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this release and conference call. That said, I'd like to turn the call over to Fei Chen, CEO of LiqTech International. Fei, please proceed.

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

Thank you, Robert, and good day to everyone on the call. I am excited to get the opportunity to speak with you and to share with you our good progress. During the third quarter, we made continued progress, executing against our strategic plan to drive the business towards profitability. We saw a revenue increase of 53% compared to the third quarter last year. Gross margins improved from 3% last year to 19% in this year's third quarter, and our net loss improved by $0.4 million. Importantly, our adjusted EBITDA was just -$0.8 million as we move the business towards profitability. These improved results are due to the enhanced business strategy we enacted last year, which focused on delivering revenue on our established business areas, and we're driving growth through expansion into new targeted markets.

To put it in other words, we look to protect and expand our established businesses, such as commercial pool systems, ceramic membranes, diesel particulate filters and components, enhance and develop our target businesses, which include areas such as phosphoric acid, oil and gas, and our overall strategic focus to increase our service business. As I mentioned in my recent corporate presentations, the key word here is focus. We are focused on making sure that we can have a sustainable business by protecting and defending our position in key markets, where LiqTech has a demonstrated history of success. We're enabling high upside growth in exciting markets, where we can leverage our core silicon carbide technology and system design capabilities. This dual approach ensures that we are not reliant on any one project or customer for us to be successful.

Taking a step back, at LiqTech, it is our vision to become a leading provider of advanced and sustainable filtration solutions. These key mega trends of water cleaning and reuse, greenhouse gas emission reduction, and the overall circular economy are all key to saving the world's scarce resources and protecting the environment. Beyond protecting the environment and preserving resources, our solutions provide real economic benefits to our customers. Whether it is the increased yields through product purification of our phosphoric acid system, decreasing the cost through the ability to reuse water in our produced water, oil and gas solution, or lower energy consumption and the chloramine-chlorine dosing needs in the case of our aqua solution for commercial swimming pools products. The recent sales wins that we have achieved and the distribution agreements we have signed are all due to this key idea of providing value to customers.

Let me take a minute to talk about some key developments that took place over the past few months. Let's start with our commercial swimming pool products. We successfully delivered 10 swimming pool systems during the third quarter and have recently received orders for three more systems, which we anticipate delivering during the fourth quarter. Year to date, we have shipped 18 systems, compared to six systems in 2022, with a geographic focus in U.K., Spain, Portugal, Australia, and New Zealand. With the great progress we have made in these new geographic areas, we have been looking at ways to broaden our sales footprint by entering into distribution agreements with key partners. Following a thorough process, we entered into two key agreements.

One with Spa & Reef, a U.K. and Dubai-based group, to cover key areas of the Middle East, including Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. As their CEO mentioned, LiqTech's pool filtration system is strategically a perfect match with the Spa & Reef's cutting-edge work in the design and the build of the most prestigious state-of-the-art leisure centers and spas. We also entered into an agreement with Waterco to cover Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, and the Pacific Islands. Waterco is a well-established player in the swimming pool market, and has worked with LiqTech successfully over the past three years to bring solutions to their joint customers. We look forward to working with these two well-respected companies to broaden our reach and make a substantial impact in the global aquatics and the water treatment industries in these key territories.

Within the marine scrubber market, we saw the return of our first new marine scrubber system orders in more than 18 months, as we developed, deployed, and upgraded modular design system through our recently enhanced distribution relationship with Joyo in China. Our dialogue with customers and partners has confirmed that LiqTech's modular design marine scrubber water treatment system is highly reliable and delivers strong return on their investments. Furthermore, our new generation design reduces OpEx for owners significantly by largely reducing day-to-day operational and maintenance costs. LiqTech has more than 160 installations in the marine scrubber market, which occurred primarily between 2018 and 2020.

This new order not only demonstrates the continuous confidence from the market and the customers in our solutions, but also validates our enhanced commercial strategy I mentioned a few moments ago, as we focus on driving revenue in established business verticals, where LiqTech has proven technical capabilities and installations. With a renewed focus on the market, coupled with capable distribution partners, I believe there is an opportunity to regain our position in this market in the future. Finishing off our established business contributors. From a membrane elements standpoint, we continue to deliver ceramic membrane orders during the third quarter, and receive new orders, which will be set for delivery in quarter four. On the DPF side, we experienced stable revenue contribution. We don't expect tremendous growth here, but looking persistently into new application areas to hold this business steady.

On the plastic side, in the third quarter, we did experience a bit of a sequential pullback as we wrapped up a large order we received at end of last year in the area of biological-based material development. We continue to look for opportunities to grow this area into the future. Finally, we did see significant increases in the sale of spare parts in quarter three. As we have more systems in operation, this will become a nice recurring business opportunity for us. Overall, we are pleased with the progress being made on our established business areas. Across all of the key areas I mentioned, we have improved our pricing discipline through enhanced cost visibility and elevated mass intelligence, which is delivering increased gross profit and ultimately bring LiqTech closer to profitability. We are pleased with the traction generated from our established business.

We recognize that there is a very large addressable market opportunity for our solutions in a wide variety of markets that can potentially drive growth for LiqTech. These large system solutions in the areas of industrial water treatment, oil and gas filtration, acid purification, and other industrial applications, are ideally suited for LiqTech solutions in the long run. As we have stated, the downside is that this area has much longer sales cycles, but I believe progress is being made. Within the oil and gas market, our collaboration with NASA is moving ahead. We are currently building what I would define as a pilot system, specifically for NASA to utilize in various demonstrations. We are similarly in close dialogue with 2-3 target customers in the Middle East for produced water solutions, where our solutions could be applied.

Hope to have more to share with you in the coming quarters. We think for phosphoric acid, we delivered and recognized revenue during the third quarter on our pilot unit to Silicon Feature in China. We believe this pilot unit will enable our partner in the region to demonstrate that our ultrafiltration technology can effectively help their customers enhance their process efficiency and product quality. We look to further build on this pilot and our U.S.-based installation to drive further phosphoric acid system sales into the future. During the third quarter, we also delivered and recognized the revenue on our metro cooling system here in Denmark, where not a large market opportunity, it highlights the capabilities of our solutions across a wide range of opportunities and the validation by yet another large international company.

Finally, on the monoethylene glycol or MEG front, our first offshore installation in the Mediterranean with a large oil and gas client, continues to perform well. As I mentioned last quarter, this first of a two-part order for the offshore project, with expectations for follow-on orders shown. That said, due to the location of the platform, which is off the coast of Israel, there is some uncertainty on the timing due to the current conflicts in the region. We should know more in the coming weeks on whether or not this will be shifted in fiscal 2023 or slip to 2024.

In summary, as we look to the rest of the year and into 2024, we see a number of opportunities in our targeted business segments, particularly with phosphoric acid, MEG, as well as produced water component of oil and gas market, that we believe will be key contributors to growth, hopefully in 2023, and certainly in 2024. Further, our newly established partnerships within the commercial swimming pool market, are expected to expand our growth in this key market segment for us moving ahead. Where there is always uncertainty, such as what we are encountering with our MEG installation in the Mediterranean, we feel confident in the guidance for the full year 2023 revenue of $19 million-$21 million.

Further, we also believe that we remain on track to achieve our full-year gross profit margin expectations in the range of 15%-20%. Please remember that our gross margin last year was only 3.5%. We have a tremendous opportunity ahead of us to leverage our highly unique technological advantages, brand competencies, and sustainability value, to build a growing and profitable business. In 2023, we have succeeded in making continuous progress in each quarter, and I am extremely pleased that with this good performance and anticipate continued progress in the quarters to come. With that, let me turn the call over to Simon to review the financials in more detail. After which, I will wrap up with a few comments, and then open the call to your questions. Simon, please proceed.

Simon Stadil
CFO, LiqTech International

Thank you, Fei, and good morning, everyone. Let me add some color on the financial highlights for the third quarter. The reported revenue of $5.1 million increased 53% compared to the $3.3 million reported in the third quarter of 2022, and also marked a modest, however, important increase compared to the most recent quarter ended June 30. Broken down by vertical, sales were as follows: system sales and related services of $2.6 million, up more than 200% compared to $0.8 million reported in Q3 last year, and up 24% compared to the most recent sequential second quarter. Looking at our ceramics business, DPF and membrane sales ended at $1.6 million, down 13% compared to the quarter ended September 30 last year, reflecting a dedicated focus on improving profitability by carefully managing our revenue mix.

And finally, plastics revenue and externally funded R&D projects of $0.9 million, up 25% compared to $0.7 million, reported in Q3 last year, with stable plastics activity and progress on key external R&D projects. In summary, the development in revenue is directly correlated with our strategic focus to strengthen the established business lines. More specifically, our core ceramics and system businesses with shorter sales cycles and a new complementary, dedicated aftermarket strategy. To be specific, the key revenue drivers during the quarter was a record delivery of 10 pool systems shipped to clients across Europe and Asia, but also the delivery of our first phosphoric acid pilot to China. Continued progress on key projects within oil and gas and metro cooling, and finally, increased aftermarket sales with uptick in orders for both marine and asset applications, leveraging our global installed base.

Zooming in on our components business, our ceramics and plastic businesses executed on incoming orders post-summer, with decisive focus on improving throughput and cutting lead times. In terms of guidance, and as Fei mentioned, we expect full-year revenue in the range of $19 million-$21 million, compared to the $16 million reported last year, with a gross margin rate of 15%-20%. It's evident that we are pleased with the progress on both top line and profitability. However, we are carefully monitoring the escalating geopolitical unrest amid the conflict in Ukraine and Gaza, which in turn may fuel uncertainty or directly impact our business. This, in particular, in industries such as oil and gas, or countries that are directly exposed. Turning to our gross margin and more insight on our journey towards breakeven.

The third quarter echoes the strong progress reported over the last couple of quarters, with a reported gross profit of $0.9 million and an implied gross profit margin of 19%, compared to just 3% in the comparable period last year. The positive development is a result of increased activity levels and equally important, a stringent focus on optimizing our revenue mix and company-wide pricing discipline. As reported earlier this year, we are pleased to see that profitability remains robust across both our established business lines and new target business within oil and gas and phosphoric acid. From an operational perspective, we decided to onboard incremental staff towards the end of the quarter to help accelerate the ramp-up of our ceramics manufacturing throughput and compress delivery times to help execute on our order backlog.

Profitability was also underpinned by new quality and production optimization efforts, seeking to standardize our manufacturing and system delivery platforms, which again, will allow our business to reduce scrap and increase yield. Taking a quick look at our contribution margin, we remain focused on closely monitoring this important KPI to ensure we develop a profitable and sustainable business, with accelerated focus on meeting our financial objectives of breakeven. During the quarter, when we back out fixed costs, our contribution margin was approximately 45%, and thus well above the 33% recorded in the third quarter last year. Our contribution margin has historically been very volatile, as it directly correlates with the underlying revenue mix. However, as reported so far this year, we have succeeded in significantly improving and stabilizing our contribution margin well above 40%.

On that note, we do maintain our quarterly breakeven target, measured on an adjusted EBITDA basis of approximately $7 million in revenue and potentially lower the right revenue mix. Turning to OpEx, total spend for the quarter was $2.6 million, compared to $2.4 million in comparable third quarter of last year. The increase reflects the onboarding of additional sales reps, combined with investments in IT and marketing to help accelerate and scale our business. To reiterate, we remain focused on running a lean business by monitoring costs and carefully evaluating our spend to ensure we do not jeopardize our financial objectives. On that note, I'm pleased to see that our OpEx came down $0.2 million from the quarter ended June 30, hence evidencing that we are very diligent when it comes to managing our OpEx spend.

Other income of $0.3 million came down compared to $0.5 million last year, with the development explained by a reduced gain on currency transactions, partially offset by increased interest income, as we benefit from more favorable deposit rates on our U.S.-denominated excess cash. Concluding on the P&L, we reported a net loss of $1.4 million, compared to a net loss of $1.8 million in the same period last year. Again, benefiting from top-line growth and increased profitability in a period where we invest in building a strong foundation from both an organization and operational perspective. Commenting briefly on our adjusted EBITDA, excluding non-cash items, we reported an adjusted EBITDA of -$0.8 million, compared to a negative of $1.3 million in the comparable quarter last year.

Considering the reported revenue, it's evident that breakeven remains achievable when adding incremental revenue of approximately $2 million per quarter at +40% contribution. Thus, this remains our key focus. Finally, let me briefly comment on our cash flow and balance sheet before summarizing and handing over to Fei. We ended the quarter with $11.8 million in cash, down $0.8 million compared to the second quarter, as we took delivery of key manufacturing equipment at our ceramics facility in Copenhagen, more specifically, new extruders and kilns. From a cash flow perspective, this quarter marks the end to the investment cycle initiated back in 2021. The plant capacity expansion both abroad and domestically in Denmark. Hence, near- to medium-term cash CapEx will be confined to maintenance and smaller investments.

Also, I'm pleased that we, during the quarter, negotiated improved terms with our core banking partner, reducing our cash collateral and securing incremental lease financing for the equipment delivered during the quarter. Furthermore, as mentioned in our release, we also proactively addressed our June 2024 maturity related to our senior commissioner notes. That was successfully extended to January 2026, on terms mirroring the original agreement. In summary, the underlying cash flow profile is improving as we are showing progress on both top line and profitability, which combined with less cash CapEx and the benefits of the improved capital structure, will further support our path towards positive cash flow generation. Thanks for your continued support, and over to you, Fei.

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

Thank you, Simon. I'm pleased with the progress our new leadership team has made to transform LiqTech operationally and commercially to become a leading provider of advanced and sustainable filtration solutions around the world. We look forward to finishing 2023 on a high note and setting ourselves up for continued success in 2024. With that, operator, we would be happy to take any questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question- and- answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Once again, that was star, then one to ask a question, and at this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble the roster. And our first question will come from Rob Brown of Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Rob Brown
Founding Partner, Senior Equity Research Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

Hi, Fei. Hi, Simon.

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

Hi.

Simon Stadil
CFO, LiqTech International

Hey, Rob.

Rob Brown
Founding Partner, Senior Equity Research Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

You've made nice progress in building out the distribution relationships. Just wanted to get your sense on how much more there is to go there, and are there certain geographies or other markets that you need to work on, or do you feel like you've kind of gotten that now in place?

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

Yeah, we still have quite many areas, geographic areas to be explored. For example, we don't have any distribution in the U.S. and also some other European countries. So we will definitely continue our journey and find more distributors to extend our geographic reach.

Rob Brown
Founding Partner, Senior Equity Research Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

Okay, great. And then, I guess, on the scrubber market, you had some orders in the quarter. How's the pipeline looking for that? And, do you feel like that's sort of re-engaging into next year? Or what's your sense on that market, for the next sort of 18 months?

Simon Stadil
CFO, LiqTech International

So, Rob, we're not commenting on the pipeline. Clearly, we're disclosing orders as they come, if they are obviously relevant in terms of tapping into new markets or they are reflecting a new product or a sizable order. Now, we are diligently working through our marine portfolios, also alluded to on our conference participation back in September, where we're trying to readdress that market through multiple channels. As Fei also alluded to at that point, we have onboarded a new sales rep for that market, a very experienced person who will help us build more channels. So we are working diligently to really strengthen our marine pipeline, and we'll elaborate more on that on future calls and obviously also disclose that on relevant press releases in due time.

Rob Brown
Founding Partner, Senior Equity Research Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

Thank you. And then maybe on your efforts to kind of get spares and services improving, I think you had some nice progress there, but how do you see that playing out? And what sort of goes into ramping that business?

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

I mean, we do have 160 marine systems in the market, and that gives us a very good basis for our service business. And we're also selling more systems for the oil and gas phosphoric acid, and also for the swimming pool system. So we are actually in the process, really looking into our service offerings and build up the professionalism on that. So we do hope, we do expect next year, the service will contribute very significantly than before.

Rob Brown
Founding Partner, Senior Equity Research Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

Great. Thank you. I'll turn it over.

Operator

Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star, then one. Our next question will come from Bill Chapman, a private investor. Please go ahead.

Bill Chapman
Shareholder, Private Investor

Yes, thank you. Hi, everyone. On the phosphoric acid, one of your presentations, you said the ROI is well under one year, and is that still proving out? And then if so, what obstacles are you having to deal with for a company to adopt this? For example, they have to shut the plant down for four days, and that's difficult. W hat are the issues that the plants have to deal with to adopt this?

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

It's nice that you have seen our presentation. It is true that the return on investment is very short. It's less than a year, and that still stands. So, really, why the sales cycle is longer for this application is that we are actually going to put our ultrafiltration system into their production line. So they always want to make a pilot test before they really put into their real system. So that's also why we have sent our pilot to, for example, Silicon Feature, and we're going to have more pilots sending out. And when the pilot is up and running, then they will become more reliable for them to really open their pipeline.

They certainly with the troublesome process because they want to see capital and they want to take the pilot process, but the return on investment is very impressive for all the customers we have talked with.

Simon Stadil
CFO, LiqTech International

Maybe just adding to that, Bill, I think the key thing here is also, as we mentioned, that the system is performing well. I think the quality of the system and the fact that we have a client that is really benefiting from this, I think gives us the long-term view that this is the right market for us to focus on. But obviously we can't control the decision process on the client side. And as Fei correctly mentioned, when we are tapping into the co-production line, it unfortunately takes time. But yeah, I just want to reiterate that the system that we have installed is performing extremely well.

Bill Chapman
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. Would this be considered substantial cost savings to the average manufacturing plant, or is it marginal cost savings?

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

I mean, it's a substantial saving because they're both saving the process cost and also the product quality increase, and that is very much value for them.

Bill Chapman
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay, one last question. How big is the market on this? I don't think I've seen anything on that. If I did, I just overlooked it. So how big is the market for this?

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

I don't think we have published exactly the max size for this one, but we did in our presentation, you have seen. And for the new target business area, we're saying something about more than $2 billion potential addressable market. So it's a huge market there.

Bill Chapman
Shareholder, Private Investor

Just one last question. Of all of the, products offerings you have, which ones have the biggest, revenue potential for the company, the way it seems right now to you?

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

T hat's exactly why we have defined our commercial strategy as we have done today, and we do not want to take the same situation as we had before and stand on one leg. We would like to have several different segments, and it's more stable for the company. So I would say all the areas we focus on, the commercial swimming pool and the marine scrubber and the sulfuric acid and oil and gas, they all could be very substantial revenue contribution for our market.

Bill Chapman
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay, thank you very much.

Simon Stadil
CFO, LiqTech International

Thank you, Bill.

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

You're most welcome.

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Fei Chen
CEO, LiqTech International

Thank you all very much for being with us today. We look forward to communicating with you soon again. Thank you for attending.

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect.

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