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Earnings Call: Q1 2019

May 2, 2019

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to LivePerson's First Quarter 2019 Results Conference Call. My name is Deidra, and I will be your conference call operator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode.

After the prepared remarks, the management from LivePerson will conduct a question and answer session and conference call participants will be given instructions at that time. Please limit yourself to one question to allow us to accommodate all questions this evening. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Matthew Kempler, the company's Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Thanks very much, Deirdre. Joining me on the call today is Robert LoCascio, LivePerson's Founder and CEO and Chris Greiner, our Chief Financial Officer. Please note that during today's call, we will make forward looking statements, which are predictions, projections or other statements about future results. These statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions as of today and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially due to various factors, including those described in today's earnings press release, in the comments made during this conference call and in 10 ks, 10 Qs and other reports we file from time to time with the SEC.

We assume no obligation to update any forward looking statements. Also, during this call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP financial measures is included in today's earnings press release. Both this press release and supplemental slides, which include highlights of the quarter, are available in the Investor Relations section of LivePerson's website. With that, I will turn the call over to Rob.

Thanks, Matt. Thank you for joining LivePerson's Q1 2019 earnings call. In the Q1, LivePerson once again executed on strategy, gaining guidance for revenue and profit measures and generating 14% year over year growth. This growth is being fueled by a combination of going wider and deeper with existing customers and adding large new brands. The trend is most evident in our ARPU and retention metrics.

Trailing 12 month average revenue per enterprise and mid market customers set a record in the Q1, increasing 24% year over year to $300,000 This marks the 4th consecutive quarter of greater than 20% growth. We raised our target range for enterprise and mid market revenue retention to 105% to 150% in 2019 from the greater than 100% in 2018, we met with the higher target in the Q1. Next Wednesday, LivePerson will host an Investor Day in New York City, where we will discuss our vision for conversational commerce, our technology, competitive differentiation and long term financial model. As a result, I'll keep today's comments focused specifically on how we are progressing on our plan to accelerate revenue growth into the high teens to 20% by the Q4 and at least 20% into 2020. We spent a good portion of Q1 focused on increasing the overall capacity of the company with a major portion hiring both engineering and go to market resources.

It's a major change in our business as we align with the increased demand in our overall pipelines. After 2 years on leading the development of this new industry called conversational commerce, we can now see that it has become a standard part of how enterprises think about the future of their digital businesses. Strong contract signings in the Q1, particularly with new logos, is a clear indicator of the shift. Some of our first quarter wins and upsells included a top 5 airline in the U. S, a top 5 telco in Canada, a top 5 cable company in the U.

S, a top 3 telco in Japan, a top 3 manufacturer of computer storage technology, a top 3 accounting and tax software provider and the top 3 telco in Australia. Working with some of the largest companies in the world is one of the reasons why we believe LivePerson is in the pole position to power conversational commerce and capture a large share of this market. Let me now highlight a few incredible opportunities with these customers. In the travel vertical, we signed another top 5 U. S.

Airline just a month after signing Delta. This new customer committed to a 3 year 7 figure animal contract motivated by the need to reduce call center costs while improving customer satisfaction. They will launch with our voice to messaging deflection solution, giving consumers the ability to start a messaging conversation instantly from an 800 phone call rather than waiting on hold. This is one of the fastest closing enterprise wins in our history from proposal to signing in less than 90 days. And it was powered by the airline attending our January Customer Summit in Dallas.

Clearly, we continue to see a powerful payback on these one of a kind marketing programs. Another key win in the quarter was a 7 figure 3 year contract with 1 of the leading telcos in Australia. There's nothing more gratifying than a deal like this one because they were once a chat customer who left us during our strategic pivot to messaging a few years back and now returned to go after the vision of conversational commerce. This marks our 4th enterprise customers come back and similar to the other win backs, the ARPU on this new customer was more than double that of when they were a mature chat customer with us. Kudos to the team in Australia for this win.

I'll also highlight a win with 1 of the top 5 cable companies in the U. S. That is launching a new wireless business. This win is significant not just for the future revenue potential, but because it represents a major shift in how the enterprise is thinking about the impact of conversational commerce. They are launching with messaging as a sole means in which a consumer can communicate with them as there will be no 1-eight hundred numbers present.

Having businesses launched with our technology as a core part of this strategy is yet another validation point for our conversational commerce is moving into the mainstream. One of the strengths of LiveEngage and our Maven AI engine is that we can support a myriad of use cases for businesses. And this is just one of the many brands that are beginning to expand beyond care into new areas like sales and marketing. With these wins and many others, the percentage of enterprise customers on message increased to 45% in the Q1, up from 25% a year ago. With demand rising, we entered 2019 with a plan to accelerate our go to market velocity by increasing sales capacity and expanding the breadth of our marketing programs.

We've been hiring at a record pace so far in 2019. And are attracted to meet our target of adding more than 60 quota carrier reps, sales development reps and channel partners by the end of June. This represents an approximate 90% increase in our total sales capacity. As previously guided, we expect to see a modest revenue contribution from new hires in the Q3 of 2019 and a more meaningful contribution by the Q4 and full productivity of 2020 as they start to scale. LivePerson's marketing programs have also proven to be an accelerant of growth for the enterprise, as illustrated with the airline, which Wynn mentioned earlier.

We're powering events at a record pace in 2019. 1st quarter, we hosted alone 2 large summits, 1 in Dallas and 1 in Berlin, participated in key industry events such as the National Retail Federation, Content Center Week, Mobile World Congress and South by Southwest. In total, we met with approximately 400 leading brands at these conferences, which had significant impact on our overall pipeline and ability to influence trajectory and scope of opportunity. In fact, 7 of the top 10 deals we signed in the Q1 were with brands that attended a customer summit in the prior 6 months. We're complementing our investments in marketing programs and sales capacity by further increasing our engineering capacity.

In the Q1, we added a number of key machine learning, data science and automation engineers at our Seattle Advanced Technology Center, bringing the size of this team to over 100. These are the people delivering on our AI and conversational commerce product roadmap, which will fuel high returns for our customers, serve as a catalyst for our platform adoption and extend our competitive lead. Now this leads me to our Maven AI engine and conversational builder. We knew when we introduced these groundbreaking technologies in the 4th quarter that we are providing a solution the industry had long awaited. We solved for the flaws of legacy bot products by building a platform specifically designed for conversational commerce, one that combines both humans and AI and leverages our data moat of 100 of millions of conversations to create superior machine learning algorithms and powerful dialogue flows.

We also broke the mold for bot design by empowering not only developers, but everyday contact center agents to build, train, deploy and manage bots. Maven and Conversational Builder went into general availability in the Q1, and we are already seeing incredible impact in the marketplace. Leading enterprise customers, including one of the largest banks in the world, a major European telco, Fortune 500 software company and a global hospitality company have already replaced their existing AI solution with Conversational Builder. The large cable company, when I spoke to you early, had approached us a couple of years back regarding an automation strategy, but they put it on hold because they didn't see that the industry was mature enough. When they saw what we built with Maven, they were eager to move forward.

In a matter of weeks, we have added 1,000,000 of dollars of pipeline and more than a dozen new opportunities tied to these new AI based solutions. The data points and metrics we saw in the Q1 reinforce the trend we are seeing of growing market demand and the development of a substantial TAM. As we discussed on our last earnings call, we are accelerating our pace of investment in order to capitalize on our leading position and capture a large share of this dynamic market. In the Q1, we started executing on that plan, hiring sales, product development capacity at a record pace, holding a record number of marketing events, which generate pipeline and sales conversions and introducing groundbreaking new products. In turn, we have laid the groundwork for revenue to accelerate towards 20% by the Q4 of 2019 and meet or exceed 20% in 2020.

Our hope is to be one of the largest technology companies in this new conversational economy, and we continue to build the foundation that will position us to seize this incredible opportunity. I will now hand the call over to Chris, who will do a deeper dive on the overall financial outlook. Chris? Thanks, Rob. We entered 2019 with a number of tailwinds and a clear plan to capture a growing share of a multibillion dollar total addressable market.

Several key Q1 building blocks of that plan included gaining traction in new product launches, launching a robust set of marketing activities and ramping up sales and technical capacity. In each of these investment areas, we executed very well. In product, we brought multiple customers live on Maven and Conversation Builder and generated 1,000,000 of dollars of pipeline opportunities tied to these new solutions. On the marketing front, we hosted a record number of events in the Q1, meeting with more than 400 customers and prospects. This is up nearly 50% from the same period last year.

And remember, our customer summits, which convert opportunities to wins at greater than a 40% rate, are the fuel for pipeline growth and progression. And from a recruiting perspective, as you heard from Rob, during the quarter, we did an outstanding job of laying the groundwork to scale our hiring and onboarding processes. You can best view this through the lens of our candidate funnel that the entire company processed in the 1st 90 days of the year. We experienced impressive demand for career opportunities at our company, resulting in the screening of over 8,200 applicants in the quarter. As a result, hiring managers conducted over 3,200 interviews and onboarded well over 100 employees.

All told, we added more sales, marketing and product development capacity in the Q1 than we did in all of 2018, the majority of which were quota carriers, pipeline generators and AI engineers. To support this influx of talent, we automated our internal processes, allowing us to now onboard new employees 2 times faster than we could just 1 quarter ago. And we're already seeing indications that investments in these areas are extending our leading market position and accelerating sales velocity. I'll elaborate. You'll recall in the second half of twenty eighteen, we began testing a more scalable and efficient method to create and qualify early sales stage sales leads by establishing representative or SDR function for the North American enterprise market.

Their impact has been measurable. 1st, these resources were heavy contributors to our sales pipeline, increasing by more than 30% quarter over quarter, which is a continuation of the trend we saw throughout the second half of 2018. And now those SDR deals are converting. In fact, during the Q1, nearly 20% of enterprise signings, including 2 of our largest wins, resulted from leads initiated and qualified by the North American SDR team. This team is also leveraging LivePerson's increasing brand recognition as a leader in conversational commerce to target new customers.

This is helping to propel new customer signings, which grew by nearly 90% year over year in terms of deal count and by over 150% in annual contract value during the Q1. And as planned, we're now extending our investment in SDRs to cover EMEA and APAC for enterprise and adding dedicated teams to cover our mid market customer base as well. We also continue to ramp up our partner channel, which influenced approximately 25 percent of contract signings in the Q1 across enterprise, mid market and SMB. We're now strengthening these relationships by enrolling partners in conversational commerce programs that are recently formed LivePerson Institute. And most exciting, our indications were starting to reduce the enterprise sales cycle.

2 of our enterprise deals in the Q1 took less than 90 days from proposal to signing. We attribute this to our investment in the sales training program and the effectiveness of our transformation model brought to life at our customer summit and client workshops. Looking at the broader breakdown of the Q1 financial results, both our B2B and Consumer segments grew at mid teens pace, right in line with our expectations. From a geographic perspective, the U. S.

Accounted for 58% of revenue in the Q1 and generated 13% year over year growth, marking a continued acceleration from the 4th quarter growth of 11%. And as expected, our international revenue accounted for 42% of sales and delivered 15% growth against the steep prior year comparison. Our industry growth was as follows. Telco and Financial Services Industries continued to lead growth in the first quarter, increasing at a faster than 20% pace. The largest vertical in the quarter was consumer retail at 23% of revenue, followed by telcos at 22%, financial services at 22%, auto at 11%, high-tech at 6% and other at 16% of revenue.

Finally, in terms of profit in the Q1, GAAP net loss per share of $0.31 adjusted operating loss of $7,100,000 and adjusted EBITDA loss of $3,200,000 were all within our issued guidance ranges influenced by our previously communicated plan for first half investment. With respect to the balance sheet, deferred revenue increased 20% quarter over quarter and 20% year over year to a record $66,400,000 We also materially strengthened our financial flexibility in the 1st quarter and increased cash on hand by $171,000,000 following the successful private placement of $230,000,000 of 0.75 convertible senior notes due in 2024. The effective conversion price on the notes, including separately negotiated cap call transactions, is $57.16 or a 100% premium to the closing price of live person shares on the issue date. Cash net of convertible debt increased $9,000,000 year over year. Transitioning to the full year outlook, we're reaffirming our guidance for 2019 with revenue of $284,500,000 to 291,500,000 dollars and adjusted EBITDA of $10,000,000 to $15,000,000 Our outlook reflects our strong Q1 execution to plan and confidence in the underlying metrics that support the ramping of our investments.

As a reminder, our revenue guidance calls for mid teens growth in the first half of 2019 and then a ramp towards 20% growth by the Q4 of 2019 as marketing programs, new products and added sales capacity begin to scale. Our 2019 investments are front end loaded and designed to maximize in year productivity. Because of this, we continue to anticipate losses in the first half of twenty nineteen with the opportunity for renewed leverage and a double digit adjusted EBITDA margin in the second half of the year. You can refer to our release and additional details on our 2Q and full year guidance assumptions. As we wrap up to take your questions, I want to close with a few overarching points that emphasize and summarize our call.

1st, we're executing well on our plan. Alignment across the company is extremely strong and we're leveraging robust data driven management systems to drive daily, weekly, monthly and quarterly performance. 2nd, our position as a market leader in conversational commerce is growing. Our platform's differentiation is allowing us to rapidly win new customers and also unlocking new industry verticals. And third, our momentum continues to position us well to deliver high teens to 20% growth by the Q4 of 2019 and at least 20% growth for the full year of 2020 with renewed operating leverage.

To that end, we're looking forward to our Investor Day in New York City on May 8 to bring additional visibility into our vision, platform, customer experiences and long range financial model. We hope you can join us next week. With that, I'll hand the call back to the operator to take your questions.

Speaker 1

And your first question comes from Koji Ikeda with Oppenheimer.

Speaker 3

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Nice quarter there guys. A question for Rob or Chris. In the commentary, Chris, you said, hey, double digit EBITDA margin target here in the second half. We really like that as the target.

I mean, how do we think about the linearity of achieving that margin target there? And I know you're not guiding to 2020 yet. But how do we think, maybe from a high level about the sustainability about that margin profile, maybe any sort of seasonal spending patterns we should expect next year in terms of infrastructure spend or headcount or marketing Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Hey, Koji. No problem at all. I'll save the signaling for what 2020 beyond is for May 8. There's just there'll be more time dedicated to it.

But I think to your question, let me walk through the linearity or the cadence of the rest of 2019 and maybe some I think some bread crumbs for where we see it could go. 1st, a lot of what you saw in the first quarter, our successful hiring and our marketing summits, those will continue in the second half. Our hiring during the Q1 really started to scale in numbers in March. So you're seeing that the full flow through effect of those hires that were done in March will then flow into the Q2 for a full quarterly impact, and then we'll hold the same, if not a bit more marketing summits in the 2nd quarter than we did in the first. From there, we'll see a step down.

We'll see a step down in spending from the first half to the second half. That's really driven by a combination of the front end loading of our marketing programs by design, as well as the benefits and payroll that will fall off in the second half of the year, payroll taxes.

Speaker 3

Got it. Thanks for that. And just one point of clarification here. The revenue net revenue retention rate, I know you guys gave that range of 105% to 115%. Just wanted to be clear here on where that fell in the Q1.

Did I hear right? Was that in the higher end of that range? Or was it right at the middle? Or was it near at the bottom? Thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Yes, right in range.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from Raimo Lenschow with Barclays.

Speaker 4

Hi, it's Mohan Gugni on for Raimo. Thanks for taking my question guys and my start of the year. My first question is for Rob. Again, I guess, Chris can chime in as well. So I was so great performance in terms of both lending PD Marquee customers.

And also sounds like the sales cycles are shortening, which is a trend we will like to see, I guess, as we move towards accelerating growth prospects. So just wondering if you can discuss as to what were some of the things that really worked well in terms of shortening the sales cycles? And how do you expect that will trend for the rest of the year? Then I have a follow-up question for this. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. So yes, we had a lot of if you remember about 2 quarters ago, we added Hunter Group in, so new logo group into the company. And we're now adding a new lot of new logos, as I mentioned on that list. I think there's 2 things that are driving it. One is there's a certain maturity now where we have over 200 enterprises that are live.

And so when we do our events, we in almost every one of the main verticals, there's 1 or 2 of those customers that are having successes, then showing those successes to a potential customer. And that kind of accelerates that. You're not going to be the 1st to do something and hit that risk. You're going to be more in the we can get this implemented and scale. The other thing is that we are starting to reinvest in what we call gainshare, where we take the total program.

So we take the agents and we work with partners. Obviously, we don't they're not on our payroll. We work with those partners, but we'll take the agent labor and we'll take the transformation. And that seems to be moving things also because we're going to own the whole contact center, let's call it, solution, including the agents, and we're able to scale those versus working within the customers' back office and some of the operational challenges they may have with their own agents. So these are some things that drove shorter sales cycles.

So the one with the telco, especially excuse me, with the airline is related to this model that we have now, the gainshare model.

Speaker 4

Understood. A follow-up for Chris, just in terms of deferred revenue growth. So you mentioned 20% growth, somewhat tough comps from last year and acknowledge that. But wondering if as you look towards sort of like accelerating growth in the back half of the year, what trend or linearity should we expect in that deferred revenue growth going forward? That's all for me guys.

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. No, I'm glad you recognized the comp. We had just some really exciting wins in the Q4 of 2017. And on top of that, we had a very large company that paid a 3 year multi year deal in advance that certainly drives the comps. In terms of how you should think about deferred revenue growth, it should keep up, if not outpace the full company's growth rate, especially as we ramp.

There is some on around the margin issues around when customers choose to pay, but in general, it should grow faster than the overall company.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Peter Levine with Evercore ISI.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Rob and Chris for taking my questions and congrats on a good start of the year. So first question is you guys talked about sales productivity looking good in terms of like newer reps coming on board. And obviously, I think you mentioned that bookings were for this quarter, which is great. So can you kind of just remind us how you sort of think about sales productivity or how you track these newer folks coming on? And then maybe talk about how you're allocating or dividing the territories with these newer reps and if you made any changes to the company?

Speaker 2

So, on the territory side, there's some territory obviously, they're all geographical based. We have 3 main business lines, which is North America, EMEA and APAC. South America, we serve for them primarily dealing with partners, but we will look at some direct in the future. When we look at the productivity, it's about still 6 months to get them at full productivity. That's why we wanted to do a lot of hiring now, get everyone on board, train them and get them going so that we have the impact of their productivity hitting in the Q4 numbers.

There's the demand in the pipeline. So the reason we're making these investments is because the SDR group, which has been up for about a quarter or so, is doing quite well, and that pipeline is growing. We just need more capacity to close those work those deals to close them, but it's about a 6 month ramp to get someone at full capacity as a rep.

Speaker 5

Thanks. I guess my last question here is, if you think about the traditional contact center, right, where you sold directly into customer service, support organizations where we are today, where now you're seeing sales and marketing departments kind of deploying these technologies. So curious to see like has the sales motion changed over the past 12 months? I mean, I assume now you have a broader audience within an organization, right? So I guess you have more of a budget to go after.

So if you go into an organization, are you selling directly to a department or are you seeing it more turn into a larger transformational sale within the organization, meaning it comes down from the CEO, so you have a little?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, we always on the large enterprise, I would say, it's always aligned to a conversational business transformation. So we'll walk into an airline and be like, you've got to be a conversational airline. And then we work through how do you automate conversations and then have live agents as part of that. So I think the very large enterprises, we will there's usually a reason to be chatting in.

It could be a sales reason, a marketing reason, most likely to care, but then we always bring to the table internal groups to align to a greater vision. And so when we go to sign a deal, we have sort of a North Star of how to do the transformation with that overall organization, and that's why we're landing these big deals. We still beachhead into care, in many cases because Care is still full of live agents doing voice calls. And that's the place that we can really show great productivity and great consumer experiences beyond the old 800 numbers. So I think that's still the major focus of the business.

I think what's really cool though is that like working on quick casual deals where you can order through messaging and then go and pick up your order at the restaurant. Like we didn't really craft that to start. We've got the rollout now happening with Aramark on all these stadiums in the U. S. Ordering a food and beverage at your seat.

There's a lot of these cool use cases that are coming up now as bots and conversational commerce sort of becomes in everyone's mind. So I think there's 1st with these large deals doing the transformation and now there's always interesting other verticals that we weren't as focused on 2 years ago when we started the launch of Mod Engagement.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Samad Samana with Jefferies.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. A couple. First, Rob, on the enterprise ARPU growth, impressive trend there. I'm curious how much of it you would attribute to larger customers and signing larger customers versus customers using more channels, so maybe like a same store sales growth number?

And then just one follow-up question.

Speaker 2

Hey, it's Chris. It's Matt. I'll go ahead and take that one. It's really both. And we'll kind of peel back the onion on this, I think, in a really neat way at our Investor Day in May.

But the new deals, the new logos are getting bigger. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, not only was the new customer deal count up a lot, greater than 90%, but the annual contract value of those new customers was up 150% and greater. So that new customers are getting bigger. And then at the same time, we're continuing to hone our ability to go wider and deeper with our existing customers by extending endpoints and then opening up the spigot, if you will, for the existing endpoints that we already have.

Speaker 6

That's helpful. And then maybe as we think about the customers that you called out a handful of big customers that have come back that left during the transition. And I'm curious, as you think about those customers coming back, what maybe what they're replacing in? And not just in our food terms, but as you think about what their what the opportunity with them is? Like, is that a big group of people that you can bring back generally?

We're just curious.

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, we were at the time, but when we went through the transition, we lost some enterprise, got some telcos and banks and things like that. It's awesome when we get them back. And I said we've got 4 very large ones. There's also a handful of smaller ones.

But this is a big win. They left us for a chat, pure chat provider. As we were going through the transition, we stopped developing on our chat product. We got all in on the LiveEngage platform. So our platform, people caught up.

But it's really cool now as we go back to them and we basically are replacing what I said a few years ago, I don't think chat should be around. I think it's synchronous. There's a new way to do things, obviously, aligns the consumer's behavior with messaging and improving it. So they're like, they're buying into imagine you cancel with us and whatever that leaves as a taste in your mouth on us, it's the same people coming back and saying, actually, this is pretty cool. This will transform our business.

So I just think it's a great marker for how we view the business of voice and chat and how they're sort of a past technology and that conversational commerce and messaging will enable these business to do some great transformation in the future.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks. That's really helpful and look forward to seeing you next week.

Speaker 2

Yes. See you next week.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Ryan MacDonald with Needham.

Speaker 2

Good afternoon, Rob and Chris. Starting out, it seems like you've had some nice initial traction for Maven AI and Conversation Builder now that it's generally available. Can you just talk about how that's one track towards your expectations? And then 2, as you're looking at the roadmap towards this reacceleration towards 20%, what role can Maven AI in conversation will their solution can have in that? And what impact does that have on ARPU growth?

So it's there's a slide I usually show when I'm presenting, which it looks at our total volume of our messaging volume today and close to half of it, 47% or 48% today is automated. So in many cases, that automation was done with some other technology provider. So I think that when you look at that large amount, obviously, it's got to be strategic to us. We always looked at it as an existential threat, which is if someone puts automation in front of us, we're just getting the live agents, we could lose that volume. But we waited.

We just sort of like looked at what would work and didn't work. We saw some of the big technologies out there and partners work with the good, bad and ugly of them. And then we went ahead and focused and built the Conversational Builder and Maven as the AI in there. So I think it's very, very important. Ultimately, I believe 80% of conversations will get automated and 20% will stay live.

So this will just drive the size of the deals. Every deal I can tell you that we're in, there's a conversation about automation. It always it's tough to drive what do you guys do, how can you help us automate. Obviously, the enterprises want automation from a cost saving perspective. They also can create a good consumer strength.

The most important part about Conversational Builder, what I think makes it unique is that we really power up the contact center agents to build the conversations and work with the technologists that they build, deploy and manage. And this allows for scale that they can have thousands of agents working on AI and deploying these bots. But Maven is very interesting too because Maven sits within the LiveEngage platform now and as an agent is creating a conversation, Maven actually guides and gives them hints. It's a best of intent. We should use a that's a product catalog, launching this API that says product catalog.

And it really helps the agents to be more efficient with live chats, with live messages and also building and crafting and deploying AI with the

Speaker 4

bots. Got it. And I guess just

Speaker 2

as a quick follow-up. It sounds like that you're continuing to see strong results out of the summits that you're hosting in terms of both conversion rates and shortening sales cycles. Can you talk about sort of as you're converting these customers and shortening sales cycles, what the mix is or generally or qualitatively between accelerator packs and sort of full scale implementations? Thanks. Yes.

It's interesting. A year ago, we basically had just kind

Speaker 4

of launched

Speaker 2

the accelerator pack and our intent and our thesis was that it would, A, accelerate the sales cycle and B, it would allow us to more quickly open doors that otherwise would have taken us longer to do. It's interesting as you test and learn on it and you see the volumes come through, what we're finding is that it does have some benefit, although not as material as we thought on accelerating deals, but it's already had a more positive impact than we expected on opening up doors. Many of the deals we closed this quarter actually began the sales cycle as an accelerated pack. But then as conversational commerce really over the last year has become more mature in mainstream, we're finding that customers are willing to make longer term commitments. And while the accelerator opened the door for the SDR to create the opportunity, when our sales teams came in, when our solution architects came in and showed them the power and scale, they very quickly became bigger longer term deals.

Great. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Alex Zukin with Piper Jaffray.

Speaker 7

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Rob, maybe just the first one. I think last quarter, you called out the successes by the different messaging channels and providers. I was curious if there was any 1 or 2 channels or providers that really stood out in terms of either bringing customers to you or driving strategic interactions?

Speaker 2

And then I've

Speaker 7

got a quick follow-up for Chris.

Speaker 2

Yes. So WhatsApp right now is driving a lot of volume, mostly outside the U. S. And so the reason is, if you look at like Germany, it's 93% of people have WhatsApp on their device. And so we had a German telco that went live, and we moved a tremendous amount of volume out of their the IVR to WhatsApp.

And we originally have them on Apple Business Chat, and they started on SMS, then they went Apple Business Chat, then they went WhatsApp. WhatsApp is dominated over the other channels. So that's going quite well. Apple Video Chat is going quite well here. And then Facebook's behind that because it's not encrypted.

So it's hard for the large enterprises to be on that platform without data encryption. So that's kind of how it's playing out. We've got also a line integration and we just finished WeChat. And so we'll be taking our first I think we only took 1 live. Within the last couple of weeks, we just finished WeChat.

So we're starting to take some enterprises over in Asia live on WeChat with LiveEngage.

Speaker 7

Perfect. Chris, just maybe stepping back for a second, it sounds like bookings were really strong. It sounds like the pipelines are really doing they're accelerating 30% on growth on top of pipeline growth of 25% last quarter. But when I look at it, was there anything that constrained the performance either in the quarter from outperforming your guidance or anything that constrained you from raising the guidance for the full year? Just given some of the positive trends that you've discussed on the call, is there anything that we should keep in to take into account from a retention rate perspective or just a customer transition or a timing perspective, anything that would be helpful or FX?

Speaker 2

Yes. No, I mean, this was a quarter, if you kind of sat in my seat throughout the quarter, it was a quarter that went really according to plan. And we had very good visibility entering the year of what our first and second quarters would look like. And now that we're starting to see the underlying metrics that support what would be necessary for the ramp, we maintain that level of confidence. I would tell you if there was anything that we expected it, but it impressed us with the level of time commitment that it took was when you're hiring at the volume we're hiring for and the fact that you can't just hire any Joe or Susan off the street in Seattle for an engineering job in AI and you also want to be equally scrupulous with who you're hiring from a sales role, multiply that times 8,000 plus applicants and then over 3,000 interviews that we were conducting as a team and all of that goes into once you made the decision on boarding them and training them.

That's a legitimate consumer of time. And that was part of all 1200 employees that we had during the Q1's lives, quite literally. So that impressed us. It was a time consumer, but it was built into our assumptions for the year and it's very necessary for us to have laid that groundwork to have begun building those muscles of onboarding. 2nd quarter is going to be a heavy training quarter.

We rolled out a new sales training program. The team has done a phenomenal job creating a curriculum around conversational commerce, incorporating it into our LivePerson Institute, and it stood up. We're holding them every 2 weeks. I present at them, Rob presents at them. We have experts from all over the company who spend time with our newest hires from our engineers to our sales reps, even some folks on the G and A side of the house.

We want everybody to be well specked up on AI and well specced up on what differentiates us in the market. So I wouldn't say there's anything all of our metrics that we talked about were right in line with what we expected.

Speaker 7

Perfect. And then just maybe just a quick follow-up. From a seasonality perspective, can you remind us of some of the drivers, both for the revenue acceleration that give you that visibility in the back half of the year as well as the gross margin improvement that you've guided for in the second half of the year?

Speaker 2

Sure. So let me start with the gross margin. So the gross margin, the reason why you're seeing 72% in that range for the Q1 and again expecting 72% in the Q2 is on the cost of revenue, we're investing in technical resources. So those delivery resources that are charged with making sure that once you onboard the brands that we are, how do you make that experience near instant and great. So surrounding our customers, not just with increasingly more industry skills, but the technical skills, that's an investment that will begin to scale as the revenue scales in the second half of the year.

So that's what will drive the lift in the second half of the year of gross margins and what we said the full year would be in that 74% range. In terms of there's no real seasonality to our revenue. It really is driven by the bookings momentum that we're building that we'll continue to build with the productivity of our sales reps. Yes, I mean, there's something on net there's some gain share seasonality that comes with the consumer seasonality that you expect in the Q4, but that's not I would say that's material.

Speaker 7

Perfect. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Tom.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Jeff Van Rhee with Craig Hallum.

Speaker 2

Great. Thanks for taking my questions, guys. A couple for me. With respect to the I know the sales capacity got overwhelmed and the accounts per rep and sort of maxed out obviously driving that and the returns you're seeing driving this big wave of investment. I want to take that to the sort of the next step.

After folks have signed, can you talk about the timing from when they signed to go live on an apples to apples deal, kind of how that's trended in the last several quarters and your level of satisfaction with that timeline? Jeff, just to be clear, you're asking on the customer's time to ramp, the employee yes, employee's time

Speaker 5

to sign.

Speaker 2

On the customer no, on the customer's time to sign. So they sign, how long from there until they get live? I'm just trying to get a sense of how that's trending because I know sales got overwhelmed is essentially the underlying concern is implementation able to keep up with the timelines expected by the customers and how has that changed? Yes. It's about 8 weeks, Scott.

I think we're talking about the large, large enterprise. Obviously, commercial can go quicker. But if I think about sign to kickoff meetings to that, it's got about an 8 week pretty much go live. I'll put it in that area today. And that's been steady?

Yes, it's been steady. It's mostly driven by their internal resources. We may be integrating into an app. It's easier now because we've got these front ends like Apple Business Chat and stuff that's much easier. The training of the reps, the building of the AI, the implementation of the AI, it's got still all those pieces to it.

Yes. On the B2B side, I know you've commented in recent quarters about the SMB side of that and that the product for a lot of reasons is now appropriate and that you were going to focus more there and you expected to see acceleration there. Can you just give us an update on that? Yes. So there definitely, the product is getting in line.

It's not too, I would say, exactly 100% where we want it to be. We have a lot of focus on it or that group does. They're doing very, very well, excitingly well. So we don't give a lot of color in it, but they're doing quite well, and their bookings is doing really, really well. And we've had a lot of capacity in there because there's just tremendous amount of mid market small businesses that want to go live and get on messaging platforms.

So they're doing very well. It's a turnaround. We didn't invest in it for many years because we're focused on the enterprise. And about a year ago, we started with a new leader on it, and he has taken that group and accelerated it to a place where it could be impactful throughout the year. It could start to be really impactful to the growth.

Yes, Jeff. We are confident that this is a market small business will grow in 2019. Yes, it's going to grow. Yes. Got it.

And then last quarter, you commented a little more detail on the POC solar packs. I think you had mentioned the ramp of 25, 65, 100 deals. I guess any update there if you're willing to give a specific number, great trajectory stayed on track. Just is that ramp still on that trajectory? Yes.

The trajectory that you're speaking of, Jeff, that was the number of pipeline opportunities that were coded as an accelerator. And when they're coded as an accelerator, 2 triggers of that our internal systems, 1, the size of the deal, so call it $150,000 to $350,000 in size and then the duration of the deal, so 3 to 9 months. What we're finding though, and this is a question I responded to earlier, interestingly that those they're staying in the pipeline loaded at a lower value. But during the sales process now, they're more prone to go up in size and convert to what a traditional deal would look like. We just we've not found them to cut sales cycles in half.

There are other tactics that we're using that we're finding are shortening sales cycles, but the accelerator isn't one of them. But it is continuing to be very impactful in the opening of doors with very large enterprises that either left us or this is a new concept to that we're able to go in with a compelling price point. But now once we're demoing and we're sizing ROIs, there's a willingness to go bigger. Okay. And last for me then, on the pipe, if you could just circle back to pipeline.

The mix of deals in there is specifically viewed from use cases. And so are you seeing sort of meaningful increases in the IVR call deflection versus in app versus other channels? So just talk to kind of the channels and the use cases and what's changing? Yes. So the still the number one driver is IVR to messaging.

That's it's our live deflect part of the platform. And we'll deflect that to any channel now. So we can get a phone number and then we can deflect that to WhatsApp, Facebook, SMS. So that's still the biggest driver. The care use cases are still where we'd be chatting in because it's still the problem of all those calls and that strategically is still our focus.

Although once again, we're relying to the marketing and sales folks. And then as I mentioned before, there's always interesting verticals that are coming up like quick casual, dining and stuff that we didn't really focus on, but they're coming and they're kind of interesting, very interesting deals. So but the number one driver is still voice to messaging, is getting rid of those voice calls. If I could sneak one last quick one in there. You said Maven displaced in a couple 2 or 3 deals.

I think you mentioned existing AI. It's interesting to hear displacement of AI solutions this early. What did you displace? You mean the actual vendors? I won't.

They're partners of ours, too. So it's

Speaker 5

Okay. We're

Speaker 2

right there.

Speaker 4

That's fine.

Speaker 2

That's all we need there. But I think the interesting thing was, I'm thinking of one particular, what's happening and that's what we saw is usually there's a technology group that or digital group that implements the AI. So they're using these technology solutions because no one else can. And they're very hard to use. They sometimes are a set of APIs.

And you as an engineer, you put the APIs together and you make a bot. And what happens, they deploy them. And now, let's say, we've had now 2 years of bots being deployed, they'll be deployed in front of a live agent and then they wreak havoc because they're not they're failing a lot and then they get routed onto a live agent. We a lot of times, the way they're routed is not done appropriately. What I found is number one problem is that they're not improving them quick enough because they don't have the resources.

So these valuable engineering resources are working on 10 projects. So they'll come back to it a month from then and the agents kind of suffer and the contact center suffers. So the idea, we move that aside and then the agent and the contact center now has full control over the end to end experience allows them to move very quickly. And we can get to a confidence rate in the high 90s of completion of a bot. We'll start in the 70s, but we get into the high 90s very quickly within like 4 weeks using the agent.

You won't get that with technical folks who are not focused on improving this. So that's the winning that's what's doing the winning solution right now. Jeff, just those wins, there were 4 enterprise grade wins that we displaced and it was in industries ranging from banking to telco to software to hospitality. Yes. And it's helpful.

And we'll still implement the other technology because people want them and we support them because we're an open platform. So we're but we want to be the best consumer experience we can. Thanks, Jeff. Thanks, Jeff. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Zach Cummins with B. Riley.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So saw that you were ramping up hiring within your Seattle Technology Center. Can you give us any insight into, is there going to be additional hiring here in the coming couple of quarters? And then any insight into your long term technology road map after you've rolled out these new AI platforms?

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. So we our CTO, Hal Spinelli, came from Amazon. He's running Lexa. Brought in a lot of people from that company and then other people in the Seattle region. We do have now he also globalized operations, which was really a focus of ours.

So originally, we only had operations in Israel. But today, we've got Seattle, Atlanta, Mountain View, Israel, Manheim, Germany and New York City and in Austin, Texas. So, we quickly globalized operations and now it's driven all of that. So, we'll continue to hire in all those areas. That group, specifically in Seattle, has like our Head of Data Science and Data Science Group.

So they're very focused on that area. So that's where we have like 100 people in the machine learning data science area out of a couple 100 total engineers. And we've got Zach, it's Chris. We've got more hiring still to go in the Q2, but will be materially done by June.

Speaker 6

Understood. That's helpful. And then final question for me. With all the additional cash on the balance sheet now, are you more open to considering M and A, whether it be more of a tuck tuck in technology acquisition or something more substantial in scale?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, we'll this is a huge opportunity. We raised the capital because we thought it's going to be a very big opportunity. There'll be things that come up in the future. We don't have anything imminent right now, but we are looking out there and saying what can help us accelerate to our vision and strategy.

So did put it on the balance sheet as we feel like there's probably opportunity out there in the future.

Speaker 6

Understood. Well, thanks for taking my questions and look forward to seeing everyone next week.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Mark Schappel with Benchmark.

Speaker 2

Hi, good evening. Nice job on the quarter. Let me just say that. And one question, most of my questions have been answered, but I do have one question. And Chris, just building on a prior question here with respect to the sales force and your sales force growing so rapidly, I wondering if you

Speaker 7

could just go into a little bit of

Speaker 2

detail about what the company is doing to organizationally manage that growth? So we yes, thanks, Nick, for the compliment. We've been gearing up for this. So the investment plan that we put in place and the strategizing around it dates back to June of last year with our management team and with our Board. So from even the mundane of making sure we've got office space, which by the way is a piece of our CapEx investments that we've been making, which you see in our books, to the onboarding process and building out an internal recruiting capability.

Interesting fact, from Q4 to Q1, we reduced our need for agencies by more than 50%. So in that there's obviously many benefits to that other than cost. You just you build the accretive, yes, thank you, yes. There's many benefits to that. But we have we've done a great deal as a company to align around a set of not just near term priorities, but long term priorities of the company.

All those priorities for every employee in the company are aligned to different initiatives, down to the engineer, to the attorney, to the sales rep. So this combination of making sure that they have the infrastructure around them to be successful and that they know exactly where they fit in and what they have to contribute is all part of our onboarding process. And as I mentioned, we've been able to cut that time in half. And now what we're focused on is how do you get them as productive as possible. And that speaks to the training programs that we're putting in place across the company.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. Thank you. That's helpful.

Speaker 1

And your last question comes from Mike Latimore with Northland.

Speaker 4

Yes. Hi. This is Vijay Devar for Mike Latimore. I think most of my questions have been answered. One question on your win rates.

Could you comment on your win rates? You have seen pretty good wins, large wins, but when do you encounter in terms of any deals? And how has been your win rates trending? Is it really trending positive or any comments over there should be helpful?

Speaker 2

Yes. We had a really nice win rate in the Q4, and that persisted in the first. So on a percentage win rate basis, what was the high watermark persisted. So that was good. In terms of the competition, it really continues to be mixed across the company proactively going in with prospects.

These are leads created by our SDR teams that I mentioned. They do not have open sales cycles. We're creating an event, we're creating a need, all the way to displacing the voice vendors. So nothing material has changed on the competitive front.

Speaker 1

I will now turn the call over to Mr. Rob LoCascio for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, operator. So I'll end the call by emphasizing a few key points. One is, we entered 2019 with a plan to capitalize on eCommerce, digital eCommerce industry and we shifted into the mainstream and accelerate our growth to at least 20% by 2020 by investing in go to market velocity and new products. And we're executing on that plan. Our product initiatives around AI and bots are expanding our competitive moat, positioning LivePerson to take an even greater share of this emerging multibillion dollar market opportunity.

And so those things together adding resources and technology, it's the beginning of the technology company to go to market in our product lines, I think we're doing a really good job and focused investments in those areas. So next week, if you'd like to, obviously, we're holding our 1st Investor Day in many years on May 8 in New York City, And you'll have an opportunity to meet with the leadership team face to face and 1 on 1, and you'll see presentations, there'll be product presentations, and we have some, I think, 5 customers are coming to present also some of the successes that they've had. So if you're interested in signing up and coming and you haven't done it yet, you can reach out to Matt Kempler and Kempler at LivePerson and to keep it within brand, you can text him at 917 250-2537. Just don't call them at 8 at night. It's not a good post study.

So with that, I appreciate all your support, and we'll continue to execute and see you guys next week. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1

This does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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