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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Jul 18, 2023

Operator

Good morning, welcome to the Mercantile Bank Corporation Q2 2023 Earnings Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the Star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press Star, then one on your touchtone phone. Please note this event is being recorded. I would like now to turn the conference over to Zack Mukewa of Lambert Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Zack Mukewa
Investor Relations, Lambert Investor Relations

Good morning, everyone, Thank you for joining Mercantile Bank Corporation's conference call and webcast to discuss the company's financial results for the Q2 . Joining me today are members of Mercantile's management team, including Bob Kaminski, President and Chief Executive Officer, Chuck Christmas, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Ray Reitsma, Chief Operating Officer and President of the bank. We'll begin the call with the management's prepared remarks and presentation to review the quarter's results, open the call to questions. Before turning the call over to management, it is my responsibility to inform you that this call may involve certain forward-looking statements such as projections of revenue, earnings, and capital structure, as well as statements on the plans and objectives of the company's business.

The company's actual results could materially differ from any forward-looking statements made today due to factors described in the company's Letter Securities and Exchange Commission's filings. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during the call. If anyone does not already have a copy of the press release and pre- presentation deck issued by Mercantile today, you can access it at the company's website at www.mercbank.com. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Mercantile's President and Chief Executive Officer, Bob Kaminski.

Bob Kaminski
President and CEO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thank you, Zach, thanks to all of you for joining us on our conference call today. Mercantile released its June 30 financial results this morning, which built on the successful Q1 and reflects the overall strength and excellence of our company as we reach the mid-year point of 2023. During the quarter, Mercantile produced earnings of $1.27 per share on revenues of $55.2 million. For the six months ended June 30, Mercantile earned $2.58 per share on revenues of $110 and a half million dollars. This morning, we also announced a cash dividend of $0.34 per share, payable on September 13th, 2023.

Highlights for the quarter include continuation of excellent asset quality, steady levels of core deposits, solid loan growth despite some sizable payoffs, pipelines continuing strong net interest margin, robust capital levels, solid liquidity, and well-managed overhead expenses. We are pleased with the continuation of these solid fundamentals that are made possible by the excellent work of the Mercantile team and also demonstrates the strength of our client base with whom Mercantile engages. During the Q2 , Mercantile generated net annualized commercial loan growth of 6%, as new funding volumes weighed more heavily toward the latter part of the quarter in June, outpaced loan payoffs, which had been meaningful over the last several quarters. Despite continued strength in ongoing loan fundings, the aggregate pipeline of commercial loans in all of our markets remains at a very high level.

Customers generally report solid sales opportunities, although occasional challenges remain in the marketplace, along with concerns about the threat of a recession in view of the continued tightening of interest rates. The overall strength of our asset quality remains an important aspect of our financial performance. Past dues, non-performing loans, charge-offs, and other real estate owned all remain at peer leading levels. As we've discussed on previous calls, Mercantile's lending administration monitors loan concentrations very closely to ensure that we do not get overweighted in loan types or industries. Our team remains highly engaged with our clients to identify potential problem loans at the earliest signs of distress, and works collaboratively with clients to ensure that the issues are corrected and the risks to the bank are minimized. Ray and Chuck will provide more details on our financial performance shortly.

The Mercantile brand of relationship-focused banking clearly resonates with clients and potential clients in the communities we serve. When customers need meaningful financial advice and counsel, the Mercantile banker is there to work with them. Our team members fill the role of trusted advisors, offering feedback as only Mercantile bankers can because we know their businesses. This is especially important during uncertain times, and we've had a lot of uncertainties over the last several years. This is a value-added facet of banking with Mercantile. We live and work in the same communities that they do, which allows for efficient local decision-making. Understanding customers' and communities' needs are one of the most important responsibilities of financial institutions, and that has been a focus for Mercantile since our founding.

In that regard, in the Q2 , Mercantile announced the formation of Mercantile Community Partners, a wholly owned subsidiary of Mercantile Bank that will offer debt financing and direct equity investments for affordable housing and rehabilitation projects. Mercantile Community Partners will work directly with developers as they plan multifamily projects across the state, providing a one-stop shop for financing and support for securing state tax credits. Regarding Michigan economy. We would still characterize it as steady, with unemployment coming in at 3.7% at the end of May, compared to 4.3% as of December 31, 2022, and 4.0% of May of 2022. Most businesses in our markets are still seeking to hire staff, reinforcing the relatively low unemployment numbers.

As has been well documented, actions taken by the Fed to slow inflation continue to increase the cost of borrowing by businesses and consumers, and continue to raise concerns of a possible recession. As we have demonstrated in the past, and most recently during the pandemic, challenges experienced during the pandemic, we believe Mercantile is well-positioned to successfully manage through a variety of conditions, effectively serve our clients in our communities, and create value for our shareholders. Those are my prepared remarks. On that, I'll now pass the microphone over to Ray and then to Chuck.

Ray Reitsma
COO and President of the Bank, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thanks, Bob. My comments will focus upon commercial loan growth, net interest margin and income, asset quality, non-interest income, and core deposit growth. Commercial loan growth was strong this quarter, increasing $48 million or 6% annualized, despite $108 million in reductions, primarily due to borrowers refinancing in the secondary market and application of excess cash flow to debt balances. Commercial growth in the Q2 occurred entirely within the C&I segments, while CRE segments have been essentially level, as projects have been paused to evaluate the impact of demand dynamics and higher interest rates. The commercial pipeline has grown sequentially over the last five quarters to an all-time high of $678 million, consisting of $327 million committed under construction loan facilities and $351 million under other commercial loan commitments.

Residential mortgages grew $38 million. The pipeline of funding commitments related to this type of asset remains stable at $59 million. Net interest income benefited from the growth described above, as well as from an increase in earning asset yield from 5.9% in the prior quarter to 6.19% in the current quarter. The portfolio is well positioned for any change in the interest rate environment, as 65% of the portfolio consists of floating rate obligations, compared to 50% five quarters ago, accomplished through disciplined application of our swap program, coupled with a fixed rate deposit portfolio that correlates in size and duration to our fixed rate loan portfolio.

Asset quality remains pristine and improved during the quarter, as non-performing assets totaled $2.8 million, or five basis points of total loans at the end of the current quarter, compared to $8.4 million, or 20 basis points of total loans, at the end of the prior linked quarter. The majority of this reduction was achieved through the payoff of our largest non-accrual borrower by an asset-based lender. We remain vigilant in our underwriting standards and monitoring to identify any deterioration within the portfolio. Our lenders are the first line of observation and defense to recognize areas of emerging risk. Our risk rating model is robust, with a continued emphasis on current borrower cash flow, providing prompt sensitivity to any emerging challenges within a borrower's finances.

That said, our customers continue to report strong results to date and have not begun to experience the impacts of a potential recessionary environment. Total non-interest income is nearly level with the comparable quarter in 2022. Service charges on accounts and mortgage banking income have both been negatively impacted by the general increase in interest rates. Service charges have reduced 29% relative to comparable prior year quarter due to an increase in the earnings credit rate, and mortgage income has declined 6% to the comparable prior year quarter due to reduced housing inventory for sale in the markets that we serve and the general effect of higher interest rates. Despite a reduction of 39% in the total amount of mortgage loans originated, total salable mortgage loans are down only 3%, and income on the sale of mortgage loans is down only 10%.

This reflects efforts to reduce portfolio mortgage loans and increase salable loans to decrease the related funding burden and interest rate risk on the balance sheet. Offsetting these declines were positive performance in the credit and debit card income, which grew 14% compared to the prior year period, interest rate swap income, which grew 74% compared to the prior year period, and payroll income, which grew 23% compared to the prior year period. Deposit balances have been very steady in our retail portfolio over the last six months, as depicted in slide 25 of the investor presentation. Business deposits typically follow a seasonal pattern, where commercial deposits contract in the Q1 as clients pay bonuses and taxes, and then build during the remainder of the year.

This pattern occurred in 2023, as business deposits decreased by $124 million in the Q1 , followed by a $150 million increase in the Q2 . These core deposits were supplemented with FHLB advances and broker deposits to fund the strong commercial and mortgage growth described earlier in my remarks. We continue to pursue a number of strategic initiatives around the deposit-generating opportunities that exist within portions of our customer base and the markets that we serve. That concludes my comments. I will now turn the call over to Chuck.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thanks, Ray. Good morning, everybody. Excuse me. As noted on slide 10.

This morning, we announced net income of $20.4 million or $1.27 per diluted share for the Q2 of 2023, compared with net income of $11.7 million or $0.74 per diluted share for the respective prior year period. Net income during the first six months of 2023 totaled $41.3 million or $2.58 per diluted share, compared to $23.2 million or $1.47 per diluted share during the first six months of 2022. The improved operating results were in large part driven by higher net interest income, stemming from an improving net interest margin and ongoing loan growth, and continued strength in loan quality metrics, providing for limited provision expense.

Turning to Slide 11, interest income on loans increased during the Q2 and first six months of 2023 compared to the prior year periods, reflecting the increase in interest rate environment and solid growth in commercial and residential mortgage loans. Our Q2 net interest margin was 117 basis points higher than the Q2 of 2022. Our net interest margin for the first six months of 2023 was 143 basis points higher than the respective prior year period. The improved net interest margins primarily reflect the combined impact of an aggregate 500 basis point increase in the federal funds rate since March of 2022, approximately two-thirds of our commercial loans have been floating rate.

Interest income on securities also increased during the 2023 periods compared to the prior year periods, reflecting growth in the securities portfolio and the higher interest rate environment. Interest income on other earning assets, a vast majority of which is comprised of funds on deposits with the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, declined by about $0.2 million in both the Q2 of 2023 and the first six months of 2023 compared to the prior year respective periods. While the rate paid on by the FRB of Chicago has increased substantially since March of 2022, our average deposit balance was considerably lower.

In total, interest income was $26.4 million and $51 million higher during the Q2 and first six months of 2023, respectively, when compared to the prior year periods. We recorded increased interest expense on deposits in our sweep account product during the Q2 and first six months of 2023 compared to the prior year periods, reflecting the increase in interest rate environment, transfer of deposits from no or low costing deposit products to higher costing deposit products, and enhanced competition for deposits. Interest expense on Federal Home Loan Bank of Indianapolis advances also increased during the 2023 periods compared to the prior year periods, reflecting growth in the advanced portfolio and the higher interest rate environment.

Interest expense on other borrowed money increased during the 2023 periods compared to the prior year periods, reflecting the higher interest costs of our trust preferred securities. In total, interest expense was $13.1 million and $20.2 million higher during the Q2 and first six months of 2023, respectively, when compared to the prior year periods. Net interest income increased $13.2 million and $30.7 million during the Q2 and first six months of 2023, respectively, compared to the prior year periods.

We recorded a provision expense of $2.0 million and $2.6 million during the Q2 and first six months of 2023, respectively, mainly reflecting adjustments to historical baseline loss allocations to better represent our expectations for future credit losses. Changes to qualitative factors were limited to a reduction of the historical loss information factor, which coincided with adjustments to historical baseline loss allocations and the elimination of certain specific reserve allocations. Reserve allocations associated with net loan growth during both 2023 periods were largely mitigated by lower reserve allocations, stemming from modestly improved updated economic forecasts. Continuing on Slide 13, we recorded increased overhead costs during the Q2 and first six months of 2023 compared to the prior year periods.

Overhead costs increased $0.9 million during the Q2 of 2023 compared to the Q2 of 2022, and were up $3.7 million during the first six months of 2023, when compared to the same period in 2022. The increased overhead costs primarily resulted from larger compensation costs, increased reserve allocations for unfunded loan commitment, and higher interest rate swap collateral holding costs.

Continuing on Slide 14, our net interest margin was 4.05% during the Q2 of 2023, up 117 basis points from the Q2 of 2022, and was 4.16% during the first six months of 2023, up 143 basis points from the first six months of 2022. The improved net interest margin is primarily a reflection of an increased yield on earning assets, in large part reflecting the increase in interest rate environment over the past 12 months. Our loan yield has increased 222 basis points over the past 12 months. Primarily reflecting the combination of increase in interest rate environment and approximately two-thirds of our commercial loans having floating rates.

Our average commercial loan rate has increased 255 basis points over the past 12 months, a significant increase on a loan portfolio that averaged about $3.1 billion during that time period. After increasing only about three basis points per quarter over the first three quarters of 2022, our cost of funds increased 17 basis points during the Q4 of 2022, 42 basis points during the Q1 of 2023, and 49 basis points during the Q2 of 2023.

Despite the increase in interest rate environment that started in earnest during the Q1 of 2022, our deposit rates and those of our competitors were not meaningfully raised during the 1st 9 months of 2022, which we believe reflected a relatively low level of competition for deposits, given the excess liquidity position at most financial institutions. As interest rates continue to rise and excess liquidity positions decline, deposit rates have been increasing. In addition, we are also experiencing the transfer of deposits from no or low-costing deposit products to higher-costing deposit products. We have included a couple of slides in our presentation depicting information on our investment portfolio, which are slides number 20 and 21.

There were only nominal changes to our investment portfolio during the Q2 of 2023, largely limited to ordinary purchases and maturities of municipal bonds. All of our investments remained categorized as available for sale. As of June 30th, about 65% of our investment portfolio was comprised of US government agency bonds, with approximately 30% comprised of municipal bonds, all of which were issued by municipal entities within the state of Michigan and a high percentage within our market areas. Mortgage-backed securities, all of which are guaranteed by a US government agency, comprise only 5% of the investment portfolio. The maturities of the US government agency and municipal bond segments are generally structured on a laddered basis.

A significant majority of the US government agency bonds mature within the next seven years, with over three-fourths of the municipal bonds maturing over the next 10 years. On slide number 18, we depict the unrealized gain and loss of the investment portfolio from the Q2 of 2021 to the Q2 of 2023. The net unrealized loss started to increase meaningfully during the Q3 of 2022. To date, the net unrealized loss peaked at $92 million as of September 30, 2022, and equaled $78 million as of June 30th, 2023. The significant increase in the net unrealized loss reflects the increase in interest rate environment.

It is important to note that the same increase in interest rate environment has had a substantial impact on our net interest margin, leading to significant growth in net interest income and net income. Turning back to slide 19, we have provided repricing data on our loan portfolio. About two-thirds of our commercial loans have a floating rate, while about 88% of our fixed-rate commercial loans mature within five years. Our retail loans are largely comprised of 7/1 and 10/1 adjustable rate mortgage loans, with most subject to adjustment within the next seven years. In aggregate, approximately 83% of our loans are subject to repricing within the next five years. On slide numbers 23, 24, and 25, we provide data on our deposit base.

You will note that we include sweep account in our deposit tables and calculations, as those accounts reflect monies from entities, primarily municipalities, that elect to place their funds in a sweep account that is fully secured by US government agency bonds. Even with the seasonal decline we experienced during the Q1 of each year, non-interest-bearing checking accounts comprise a significant 34% of total deposits and sweep accounts as of June 30, 2023. A large portion of those funds are associated with commercial lending relationships, especially commercial and industrial companies. The level of uninsured deposits, which totaled 47% as of June 30, 2023, has remained relatively stable over many years. On slide 24, we provide information on depositors with balances of $5 million or more.

As of June 30th, 2023, we had 70 relationships with aggregated $1.2 billion. About 83% of the relationships and approximately 86% of the total deposits were with businesses and/or individuals, with the remaining comprised of municipal entities. Of those 70 relationships, 29 of those have had balances exceeding $5 million for at least five years. As a commercial bank, a majority of our deposits are comprised of commercial accounts. On slide number 25, we depict our deposit balances as of the three past quarter ends. Excluding brokered CDs, business deposit accounts were up $39 million during the Q2 , following a decline of $124 million during the Q1. That primarily reflected business customers' seasonal payments of taxes and bonuses and partnership distributions.

Aggregate personal deposit totals have remained relatively unchanged during the first six months of 2023. During the first six months of 2023, we experienced transfers of funds from low and low-cost checking and savings deposits to higher paying money market and time deposits, a trend we expect to continue. On slide number 26, we depict our primary sources of liquidity as of quarter end. We do periodically use our unsecured federal funds line of credit with a major correspondent bank. We have not utilized this line since late April. Our deposit balance at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago equaled $130 million as of June 30th, 2023, compared to $6 million at the end of the Q1 .

We obtained $111 million in broker deposits and $90 million in FHLB advances during the Q2 of 2023, combined with $70 million in FHLB advances during the Q1 of 2023, to offset the impact of loan funding and net deposit withdrawals during the first half of the year, and to rebuild our on-balance sheet liquidity position. Our level of wholesale funds as a percentage of total funds was 13% as of June 30, compared to 7% at year-end 2022. We remain in a strong and well-capitalized regulatory capital position. Our bank's total risk-based capital ratio was 13.7% as of June 30, 2023, about $177 million above the minimum threshold to be categorized as well-capitalized.

We did not repurchase shares during the first six months of 2023 and have $6.8 million available in our current repurchase plan. While net unrealized gains and losses in our investment portfolio are excluded from regulatory capital calculations, on slide 22, we depict our Tier one leverage and total risk-based capital ratios, assuming the calculations did include that adjustment. While our regulatory capital ratios were negatively impacted by the pro forma calculations, our capital position remains strong. As of June 30, 2023, our Tier one leverage capital ratio declines from 12.2% down to 10.9%, and our total risk-based capital ratio declines from 13.7% down to 12.4%. Our excess capital, as measured by the total risk-based capital ratio, is also negatively impacted.

However, it totals a strong $115 million over the minimum regulatory minimum to be categorized as well-capitalized. Finally, my thoughts on the remainder of 2023. On slide 27, we share our latest assumptions on the interest rate environment and key performance metrics for the remainder of 2023, with the caveat that market conditions remain volatile, making forecasting difficult. This forecast is predicated on the federal funds rate being increased by 0.25% on July 26, and then staying unchanged for the remainder of the year. We are projecting total loan growth in the range of 5 to 6% for both commercial and residential mortgage loan portfolios.

While we have experienced solid loan funding throughout 2023 thus far, our commercial loan pipeline remains very strong, we continue to experience a high level of payoffs and paydowns. We are forecasting our net interest margin to decline 15 to 25 basis points during the Q3 from 4.05% we recorded during the Q2 , then 10 to 15 basis points down during the Q4 of 2023 from the expected range during the Q3 of the year. In closing, we remain very pleased with our operating results and financial condition through the midway point of 2023, believe we remain well positioned to continue to successfully navigate through the myriad of challenges faced by all financial institutions. Those are my prepared remarks. I will now turn the call back to Bob.

Bob Kaminski
President and CEO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thank you, Chuck. That concludes management's prepared comments, and we'll now open the call up to the question and answer session.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Brendan Nosal with Piper Sandler. Go ahead.

Brendan Nosal
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Hey, good morning, guys. Hope you're doing well.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Morning.

Bob Kaminski
President and CEO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Morning.

Brendan Nosal
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Maybe just to start off on funding costs. Hoping you could walk us through the evolution of funding cost pressures over the course of the quarter, and then kind of thoughts on where that moves from here. If you happen to have it, we'd be curious to know what the spot margin was as of 6/30.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

I don't have a spot margin, but I can get that for you. I think the progression of deposit rates is the offered deposit rates have been, I would say, moving steadily throughout most of the first six months. You know, I think, you know, part of that is the interest rate environment has been increasing. Obviously not as much as in 2022, the Fed has been, as you know, raising interest rates. As we mentioned, you know, the competition for deposits is no secret, is very keen right now. You know, I would expect that, you know, as long as the Fed is increasing interest rates, we'll continue to see some pressure to raise deposit rates.

This is especially true, I should back up, with money market and the time deposit products. I think, you know, I think on an overall basis, deposit rates are going to trend as whatever the Fed does. You know, once the Fed gets done, I would think our offering rates will stay relatively unchanged, relatively high, because of the competition. I don't think we'll see, you know, incremental increases, into our offering rates, once the Fed is done raising interest rates.

Brendan Nosal
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

That's helpful color. Maybe one more from me. Can you folks offer a little bit of color and maybe provide an update on the office portfolio? Just kind of walk us through the composition of that book, things like location, LTV, occupancy, just any color you can offer.

Ray Reitsma
COO and President of the Bank, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Our office portfolio is, excuse me, predominantly in West Michigan. They continue to be, the projects that we fund have continued to be, supported by strong sponsors and have not seen market change in occupancy. While it's a, it's a segment that we continue to scrutinize closely, have not seen as much change in it as you might expect, given the general headlines around the topic, in the financial press.

Brendan Nosal
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

All right, perfect. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on the quarter.

Ray Reitsma
COO and President of the Bank, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thank you.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Daniel Tamayo of Raymond James. Go ahead.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Good morning.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

I guess first, the non-interest bearing number really didn't move a whole lot during the quarter, and I think I was expecting as well as, you know, a lot in the industry for that to come down a bit. Did that surprise you? You know, maybe if you could just talk about the timing during the quarter, if there was a slowing of migration or just anything that might help us figure out what's happening in the non-interest bearing. Thanks.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Sure. Today, this is Chuck. You know, one of the things we talk about all the time, and obviously again this morning, is, you know, we historically see a seasonal withdrawal, net withdrawal of our non-interest bearing deposits from our business customers, especially in January. A little bit in December, but especially in January, and into February, again, paying taxes, bonuses, and the partnerships, paying out distributions. Then we will then see a reversal of that trend as we start into the Q2 , because we're going to go through this, the seasonality again. You know, next January, we expect to see, you know, yet another decline. Between January of this year and January of next year, we would expect deposit balances to start improving.

I think that's kind of what you saw in the Q2 , was there was some stabilization. We did see, you know, this is we have, obviously, a very strong loan portfolio, and a lot of that's backed by some very strong operators. We saw tax payments in April also be a little bit higher than typical. So really, since, you know, those payments went in mid-April, we've seen some pretty steady growth in the non-interest bearing checking accounts. Again, we would expect that growth to continue throughout the rest of this year as they build balances back, you know, to make the payments next January.

Now, I know I don't expect the non-interest bearing deposit balances to get back to where they were at the end of last year, you know, kind of using that as a benchmark. That's because we are definitely seeing, like all banks are seeing, some transfers of funds from those accounts into, it's mostly business money market accounts. I think, you know, when rates were very low, a lot of businesses just didn't see the need to be moving money between non-interest bearing and money market accounts. You know, the interest rate differential just wasn't significant enough for that. Clearly, that has changed over the last, you know, call it 18 months, you know, at least 12 months. I think the, you know, a lot of business owners and managers are more keen to that.

you know, that will temper, I think, the growth that we see in non-interest bearing accounts for the rest of this year. We do expect some growth. Of course, we would expect growth in our money market business accounts as well.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

That's very helpful. Thank you, Chuck. I guess my overall thoughts on, or I should say, just curious kind of how you're thinking about the composition of the, of your clientele that have those non-interest bearing deposits. You know, you mentioned that you're expecting some pressure, and you've seen some moving to interest bearing or asking for that. I mean, is that have you looked at the client base in terms of that's the largest customers where that's happening, and you're not seeing it as much in the smaller customers?

Is there any other kind of detail you've been able to figure out for where that pressure is coming from, and then kind of how that might relate to going forward?

Ray Reitsma
COO and President of the Bank, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Yeah, Danny, as you inferred, I think that it is correct that the larger the customer is, the more likely they are to have that sensitivity to want to earn more on their deposit account. There are certain segments of our loan portfolio that do fund themselves with deposits that are greater than their loans. You know, we're trying to increase that piece of our portfolio so that the spillover, if you will, can help fund other parts of the portfolio. In general, what you've said is correct.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

Do you have a breakdown of, you know, the average deposit or average size of the clients, or, you know, is there like a bucketing that you can provide or that you think about in terms of what's moved already and what hasn't, to try and maybe give us an ability to dig in a little bit more in terms of what may be sticky versus what may be more at risk in terms of shifting over to interest bearing?

Ray Reitsma
COO and President of the Bank, Mercantile Bank Corporation

That, that information, you know, it exists. It's not something that, would be great to share at this point. I'd hate to point our competitors right at our deposit risk-rich customers. There, there are definitely segments that, are more deposit-rich than others.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

Okay, fair enough. I guess the last question. I think if I'm reading this right, this Q4 net interest margin guidance was raised from last quarter by a bit here. If that's the case, was it just the better-than-expected margin in the Q2 that drove that? Or, if not, what was the primary driver?

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

The driver of that's going to be the Fed increase we got in May that we didn't have budgeted. As I mentioned, we do expect the Fed to raise the rates by 25 basis points next week as well. There's really 2 25 basis point increases that we've factored into our numbers this time around that we didn't have three months ago.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

Okay. If you were kind of extending that forecast out, that then the... it would be unchanged basically, as the rates flow through, I guess? Yeah, I mean, I guess there's a lot of variables. That's fair. I appreciate it.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Talk yourself out of it.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

Probably answered.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

You're welcome. Thanks, Danny.

Operator

Our next question comes from Erik Zwick of the Hovde Group. Go ahead.

Erik Zwick
Managing Director, Hovde Group

Good morning. wanted to maybe kind of continue on Daniel's last question in terms of the outlook for the rest of the year, but more focused on the loan outlook. Just want to make sure I kind of understood the comments in your prepared remarks that bringing that guidance down from that 6 to 8% level to 5 to 6% level, just given the strength in the pipeline. Is bringing that down really a reflection of expecting kind of more pay downs in the back half of the year than expected, or is there anything else in the market that you're sensing where you're choosing to be more conservative or just trying to kind of balance all those thoughts that I heard earlier?

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Yeah, Erik, it's a great question. From a commercial side, we're really not changing our outlook. We're looking at 5 to 6% for the rest of this year, annualized. That's pretty much what our expectation was three months ago. The difference is in mortgage lending. Ray kind of touched on what's going on in the competitive environment, you know, the housing stock and obviously, you know, relatively high interest rates. Although, as we all know from a historical standpoint, they're not that bad. Ray also touched on the fact that we're kind of changing our product mix around a little bit to try to be able to sell more of our loans, which basically more fixed-rate loans as a percent of the composition.

You know, what we're putting on the books is our arm products, which I think, as you know, are very difficult to sell. And all banks are faced with that is, you know, the way that with the yield curve and the way mortgage rates have been working, you know, a majority of borrowers, new borrowers, have been taking the arms, which of course, are being added to our balance sheet and putting more pressure on an already stressed funding structure. We've made a conscious effort within our residential mortgage function to take some steps to try to increase the percentage of the loans that we are making into the fixed-rate bucket so we can sell them.

Of course, like I said, then you've got the external environmental factors of housing market, you know, housing stock available and, you know, still some pretty relatively high interest rates slowing that segment down as well. What you see in the decline, what we talked about, three months ago from today, we expect commercial loan growth really unchanged from what our thoughts were before. It's the mortgage loan expectations that are driving the overall percentage down.

Erik Zwick
Managing Director, Hovde Group

That's great color. Thanks, Chuck, for the additional comments there. Switching gears a little bit to just kind of the health of your markets, and you talked a little bit about your commercial real estate office portfolio already. One other area where I'm starting to, you know, read that there's some concern and hear from, you know, institutional investors where they're looking as well, and I think this is more a factor in faster growing kind of, you know, southern U.S. markets. There is some concern in multifamily properties today.

You know, from our previous conversations, I know you guys feel pretty good about the multifamily markets and demand there, but wondering if you could just refresh me on, kind of the thoughts there, the health throughout your Michigan franchise, as well as the opportunity to continue to lend there, given, you know, maybe, a lack of supply and excess demand.

Ray Reitsma
COO and President of the Bank, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Yeah, this is Ray. The housing supply in most markets that we serve is very tight and continues to be demonstrably so. We're certainly not overreacting to that by plunging heavily into that market, but we're continuing to support it for the developers that we know that have resources and a great track record in supplying housing inventory in Michigan. We haven't really changed our stance on how healthy the market is, and we're continuing to support that activity prudently. Maybe even cautiously, but not overzealously.

Bob Kaminski
President and CEO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Yeah, this is Bob. I'll piggyback onto that. You know, in West Michigan, which is our largest penetrated market for our company, even with the projects that are on the drawing board, with all the developers in all their projects, there's still projected to be a significant shortfall of units that are needed to accommodate the demand as predicted by the local governments. We feel really good about our portfolio. As Ray said, we partner with developers who we've known a long time and who have a lot of experience and have multi sources of revenue streams.

We feel really good about that, but also on the strength of the market, given the current supply-demand imbalance, that, we think it'll continue to bode well for multifamily, especially here in West Michigan.

Erik Zwick
Managing Director, Hovde Group

That's helpful. Thank you. Last one for me. Just you guys have a, you know, strong capital position, strong pipeline, you know, very well positioned to continue growing through organic means. Just curious if you could, you know, add any color to the pace of M&A discussions and just your appetite to, you know, potentially do a deal if something attractive came your way?

Bob Kaminski
President and CEO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

You know, This is Bob, I'll answer the question the same way that we always have on that, is that we're very selective about potential partners for our company. As you know, based on our history, we've only had one M&A transaction. That was in 2014 with our merger. We're very keenly mindful of our culture, and the continuation of that culture has been the key to our success. There are a lot of opportunities that have come and gone over the years that may have made sense on paper, but have not and would not have been a good cultural fit. That, that mindset still carries forward today.

There aren't a whole lot of M&A discussions going on right now, given, I think, some of the uncertainties in the marketplace and in the financial services industry. As that continues to loosen up over time and I think people regain confidence in the banking sector, and there are those opportunities. We'll continue to approach it with that mindset, is that we are certainly open to M&A, but our success in growing organically has been demonstrated over a number of years, and we'll continue to have that same approach.

Erik Zwick
Managing Director, Hovde Group

Thanks. I appreciate your thoughts. Appreciate you taking all my questions as well.

Bob Kaminski
President and CEO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

You bet.

Operator

As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star, then one. Our next question comes from Damon DelMonte of KBW. Go ahead.

Damon DelMonte
Managing Director, KBW

Hey, good morning, guys. Congrats on a nice quarter, and thanks for taking my questions here.

Ray Reitsma
COO and President of the Bank, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thanks, Damon.

Damon DelMonte
Managing Director, KBW

I guess first question I had was, you know, just I think you guys mentioned that there were some payoffs during the quarter that were loans that were kind of under duress. You know, do you feel like there's more credits that you could be kind of working off the balance sheet over the coming quarters?

Ray Reitsma
COO and President of the Bank, Mercantile Bank Corporation

The one that we worked off is, you know, the primary target without questions as our largest nonaccrual borrower. In terms of others, there are some fairly small and in number and amount, so it shouldn't drive, you know, our growth numbers in a negative way to continue that process. Most of the credits that we see that are under duress are one-off, management-type issues, not systemic or economic conditions driven, required workouts. They've been fairly rare. We do have a few that we are working in that direction. Don't expect those to pay off during this quarter necessarily that's coming up.

I think, in terms of asset quality type paydowns, we'll continue in that similar range to what we've experienced in the recent past.

Damon DelMonte
Managing Director, KBW

Given the, you know, the strength of the credit quality across the portfolio, you know, how should we think about the provision level over the next couple of quarters? Do you think something similar to this level is reasonable, or do you feel like, you know, you need to provide to this extent?

Bob Kaminski
President and CEO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Yeah, I think, Damon, this is Chuck. I think, you know, obviously, we look at things at the end of each quarter, and, you know, there's a lot of volatility in the market, especially with forecasting. Of course, you know, with CECL, we're all using, you know, forecasts that are out there. We're always subject to whatever any economic forecast updates that we get and, you know, run that through our model. We got the qualitatives, you know, the standard regulatory qualitatives that are out there as well. We really haven't done a lot of changes to those over the last several quarters. As you know, our asset quality has been maintaining, you know, a lot of stability, a lot of strength.

We haven't introduced new types of lending or, you know, new markets, those types of things. Kind of steady as she goes. It's a great place to be, that we've got very strong loan quality and a very, you know, significant pipeline, that we're enjoying and continue to enjoy. Long-winded answer to your question is, I think it kind of just depends on, mostly on the economics. I don't see over the next couple of quarters any significant changes to our loan portfolio from a structure standpoint and a product mix standpoint. I think it's gonna be primarily driven by the economics. Obviously, you know, a big measurement is going to be the actual specific health of our loan portfolio.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

I think as the, if the economy continues to go along, as it's pretty much been forecasted, you know, we don't expect any systemic degradation of our loan portfolio over the next couple of quarters. Having said all that, I think any reserve will really be dominated, notwithstanding what I said, will be dominated by, you know, any growth that we have in the loan portfolio.

Damon DelMonte
Managing Director, KBW

Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. With regards to, you know, capital management, Chuck, I think you said about $6.8 million remains on the buyback. You know, what are your thoughts on maybe dipping into the market here and buying back some stock?

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Yeah, you're correct on the $6.8 million. You know, that's something that has been on our stovetop, although it's been on the back burner. I think as we were trying to work our way through, obviously, the noise within the banking system and, you know, wanting to make sure that we kept our balance sheet from a capital position as strong as we could. You know, the economists, they keep backing off every six months, but, you know, the economists keep telling us there's a recession coming. We want to be mindful of that as well. We do look at our capital, and we find it to be healthy, especially in regards to our earnings performance and our loan quality. That's something that we'll continue to take a look at.

I think, we're, you know, I think we're more comfortable, definitely, as we sit here today, than we were 90 days ago, especially in regards to what's going on in the banking industry. I would say that we're just gonna be cautious, as we move forward to engage in any stock buybacks. You know, with our pricing, the way it has been, our stock price, it's certainly something that we look at and see some opportunity there.

Damon DelMonte
Managing Director, KBW

Okay, great. I guess just lastly, you know, any commentary on the mortgage banking market as far as, like, the purchase market goes? I mean, you know, you put up a pretty good quarter this quarter with the gain on sale loans. Do you feel like the purchase market, you know, given your footprint remains, you know, pretty solid and should continue to produce decent results for you guys?

Ray Reitsma
COO and President of the Bank, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Yeah, I think that's a fair characterization. You know, here in the Midwest, the Q2 will be better than the first seasonally. There is a continuation of tight supply, as we've described already, in response to a number of questions. I think the key for us is the simple recognition that we achieved some time ago, that the refinancing just wasn't there anymore, and we had to position our sales efforts relative to what is relatively scarce purchase opportunities in the market, but make sure we're there for as many as possible. That's how we have positioned ourselves. We've been able to do a relatively good job of getting our share of what are relatively rare opportunities.

Damon DelMonte
Managing Director, KBW

Got it. Okay, great. That's all that I had. Thank you very much.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thanks, David.

Operator

Our next question comes from Daniel Tamayo of Raymond James. Go ahead.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Second time through the order, Danny, huh?

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

Yeah. Yeah. I thought of a follow-up here. Just, I guess it's a couple. First, just you mentioned getting into the tax credit business. Just curious if you could provide a little bit more detail on what that would look like for you guys, timing, expected kind of growth path, that kind of stuff.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Yeah, this is Chuck. I'll start with that. You know, all along the number of years, we have seen have underwritten lots of deals that have had tax credits in them as part of the structure. We just never had anybody on staff that had the expertise to actually engage in that part of the relationship. We recently have been able to hire a few folks that have that expertise. Like I said, we, you know, we generally see opportunities in that space, we think with the people we have on board and our type of relationship banking, we think it makes a lot of sense to enter that space. There are, you know, the pipeline is pretty good already.

I think we're actually closed on our first deal next week. What that will end up being is a reduction of our federal income tax rate over time. Still definitely early in the game to have, you know, these are all construction jobs, so it takes a while for the credits to be earned and then obviously used. Nothing significant to our bottom line, the rest of this year. We'll start seeing some impact next year, and obviously, I'll update given our guidance, as we do provide guidance on our tax rate. That's where the true benefit for the income statement is really going to come through.

I think just as importantly, is yet another quiver, you know, arrow in our quiver, that we can be that trusted advisor to our borrower customers and be able to provide yet one more piece of the puzzle that they're working on with their specific projects that happen to involve tax credits.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

Okay. All right. That's helpful. Then you gave a lot of detail on in your prepared remarks about the reserve calculations in the Q2 . I think you mentioned changes that you made in the quarter, if I'm correct. Can you just kind of refresh me on what you said happened there? If there were any kind of changes, if there were either changes to qualitative or changes to actual calculations that you made in the quarter? Did I hear that?

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Yeah. What we did is we did a really deep dive into our model and just making sure that we were comfortable with the numbers. Obviously, it's something we kind of do on a regular basis, but took a pretty deep dive this quarter. One of the things that we found in looking at it back in our migration period, which is our baseline allowance, so that's looking at the actual charge-offs and recoveries dating back to January 1st of 2011. What we had found is that we had some recoveries in our numbers during that time period, from 2011 on, that the charge-offs actually took place before the migration period started.

You know, we had a recovery, say, in 2011, where the charge-off was in 2009, but we were giving ourselves credit, if you will, for the recovery without the corresponding charge-off. We went ahead and cleaned that up by eliminating those recoveries from our migration period, which then resulted in our baseline allocation factors going up. One of the things that we introduced with CECL from a qualitative standpoint, was an historical loss calculation. What we do with that is we go back over the last 20 years and calculate what our average annual net charge-off number was. Let's just say it's about 45 basis points. We look at our baseline calculation, which I think previously was around 15 basis points, give or take. Our qualitative would be the difference to that.

We would do our baseline, which has a lot of impact in other areas of our calculation. From a qualitative standpoint, we said, you know, our historical loss should be, kind of be our diminus when we're looking at that. In that example, our historical loss would be 30 basis points. Now that we've updated our baseline allocation, it went from 15, and I'm not making these numbers up, but are using very general numbers. Our baseline went from 15% to up to, I think, 30 or 35 basis points. Our historical loss didn't change from the 45, while our baseline went up, the quantitative measurement, our qualitative was able to come down.

It wasn't, it wasn't exactly, you know, dollar for dollar, because there's a lot of other things that go on with the baseline calculations in our, in our model. That was the big moving piece, was making our calculation more supported by quantitative measurements, with what I'll call cleaned up data, more appropriate, reasonable data, and less reliance on qualitative.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

I got it. Okay. The net was quantitative factor went up, qualitative reserves came down to offset it?

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Correct. Correct. Yep.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

Okay. Thank you for all that detail.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

You're welcome.

Daniel Tamayo
Director and Senior Analyst in the Equity Research, Raymond James

For real this time.

Chuck Christmas
EVP and CFO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thanks, Danny.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Bob Kaminski for any closing remarks.

Bob Kaminski
President and CEO, Mercantile Bank Corporation

Thank you very much for your interest in our company. We look forward to speaking with you after the next quarter end in October. This call has now ended. Thank you.

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