Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Moody's Corporation Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform you that this conference is being recorded and that all participants are in listen-only mode. At the request of the company, we will open the conference up for a question-and-answer session following the presentation. I will now turn the call over to Shivani Kak, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us to discuss Moody's Second Quarter 2022 results and our revised outlook for full year 2022. I'm Shivani Kak, Head of Investor Relations. This morning, Moody's released its results for the second quarter of 2022, as well as our revised outlook for full year 2022. The earnings press release and the presentation to accompany this teleconference are both available on our website at ir.moodys.com. During this call, we will also be presenting non-GAAP or adjusted figures. Please refer to the tables at the end of our earnings press release filed this morning for a reconciliation between all adjusted measures referenced during this call and U.S. GAAP. I call your attention to the safe harbor language, which can be found towards the end of our earnings release.
Today's remarks may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. In accordance with the Act, I also direct your attention to the Management's Discussion and Analysis section and the risk factors discussed in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2021, and in other SEC filings made by the company, which are available on our website and on the SEC's website. These, together with the Safe Harbor Statement, set forth important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any such forward-looking statements. I would also like to point out that members of the media may be on the call this morning in a listen-only mode.
Before we begin, I'm pleased to announce that in response to feedback from our external stakeholders, we have enhanced our earnings materials and changed the format of our call for this quarter. This morning on our IR website, we published our supplementary presentation along with our updated earnings release, materials that we believe provide substantial insights into our business. As such, during the call, we will not be going through our usual presentation. Instead, Rob Fauber, Moody's President and Chief Executive Officer, will provide a brief overview of our results and outlook. After which, he will be joined by Mark Kaye, Moody's Chief Financial Officer, to answer your questions. I will now turn the call over to Rob Fauber.
Thanks, Shivani. Hello, and thanks to everyone for joining today's call. As Shivani mentioned, I'm gonna keep my opening remarks brief so that we can get straight to your questions. I appreciate that it's been a very busy morning for many of you on the call. Let me begin with a few key takeaways about our results, and then I want to spend a few minutes on our outlook and the continued strength and relevance of our business. Let me start by reinforcing that as challenging and volatile conditions in global capital markets continue, we're leading the way in providing integrated perspectives on risk for our customers. This quarter was really a tale of two cities as our ratings business was significantly impacted by the slowdown in issuance activity, and our MA business continued to grow very nicely.
As we've said previously, year-on-year comparisons with our record performance in 2021 would be unfavorable this year. Overall, Moody's revenue declined approximately 11% in the second quarter. Given the operating leverage in the MIS business as well as the negative impact of foreign exchange, adjusted diluted earnings per share declined by 31% from the prior year period to $2.22. MIS, which was significantly impacted by ongoing cyclical disruption in the global debt markets due to a few things, rising interest rates, high inflation, unsettled geopolitical conditions. MIS generated revenue of $706 million.
Really to put that in perspective, global rated issuance was down 32% for the quarter, and transaction revenue was down 40%, and that reflects a negative mix driven by the weakness in the leveraged finance markets. When balanced by our recurring revenue, this translated to a 28% decline in total MIS revenue for the quarter. Now, on the other hand, customer demand for our MA suite of solutions that help navigate market uncertainty and identify, measure, and manage risk, that demand remained robust, and that fueled steady growth in our subscription and SaaS-based products, which, along with the contributions from prior year acquisitions, delivered revenue growth of 18%. MA revenue growth was negatively impacted by five percentage points due to FX in the quarter.
Now, you'll recall earlier this year, we introduced an annualized recurring revenue or ARR metric for MA, and we believe that's a good indicator of future growth. In this quarter, our organic ARR grew by 9%, and we expect this growth to further increase to low double digits by year-end. That's supported by both our ongoing product development investments that broaden the ways in which we serve our customers and by the growth in our sales force and strong sales execution. Now, I expect that many of you will have questions about our outlook, in a few minutes. I'd like to make a few comments about our expectations before we get to it in the Q&A.
We anticipate that the current market disruption will persist for the remainder of the year, and we've updated our guidance to reflect that. Now obviously, if actual conditions differ from the assumptions underlying our guidance, our results for the year may differ from our revised outlook. Now for MIS, we expect issuance to decline approximately 30% for the year and full-year 2022 revenue to decrease in the low 20s% range. Now the last 2.5 years have been unusual, to say the least. I have to acknowledge that with all the uncertainty in the market, the confidence interval around our outlook is probably wider than it was pre-pandemic. Our business outlook for MA remains unchanged. However, due to the impact of the weakening euro and British pound against the US dollar, we're slightly reducing MA's revenue growth outlook to the mid-teens percent range.
Now, taking the reduced MIS revenue guidance and the impact of foreign exchange into account, we now forecast Moody's full-year 2022 revenue to decline in the high single-digit percent range. Adjusted earnings per share are now projected to be in the range of $9.20 to $9.70. Incorporated into our outlook is a new restructuring program, and that's part of our broader approach to expense management. This Geolocation Restructuring Program helps us further adapt to the new global workplace and talent realities, and it accelerates a number of ongoing cost efficiency initiatives. That includes real estate optimization and the increased utilization of lower-cost operational hubs. We expect this program to generate $40 million-$60 million in annualized savings with up to $75 million in aggregate charges through 2023.
We plan to partially redeploy these savings back into the business to support ongoing organic investments, including things like sales deployment and employee retention. Now, before I open it up to questions, let me try to put all this into perspective for a few minutes. Now debt issuance markets are clearly in a period of cyclical turbulence. However, we believe that the fundamental drivers of issuance remain firmly intact. Taking a medium-term view, we expect issuance to resume as capital markets adjust to a higher interest rate environment. As you saw in the slides that we shared this morning, the volume of outstanding corporate debt in the U.S. has grown each year for the last 30 years. We believe that the fundamental role of debt in fueling economic activity and financing business growth remains unchanged.
Global GDP growth is expected to continue, albeit at a lower rate. Corporate refinancing needs remain strong. On a historical basis, rates and spreads are relatively in line with their averages despite some recent increases. During this period of market turbulence, we're going to continue to focus on what we can control in MIS. That is to ensure that Moody's remains the rating agency of choice, providing a world-class experience for issuers and ensuring the quality, relevance, and timeliness of our ratings, research, and insights that all reinforce investor demand pull. MA remains a strong and resilient business with almost 60 quarters of consecutive growth. Our investments in product development and sales are accelerating our organic ARR growth, and we're realizing the benefits of our recent acquisitions.
In fact, we're ahead of or have met the targets that we set for our acquisitions of BDD and RDC. Though it's early days, we are on track to meet our targets for RMS. Now, stepping back and looking at the big picture again for just a moment, we see strong demand for our integrated risk assessment offerings. The value that Moody's provides to our customers, especially in these uncertain times, remains unmatched. Across the business, we're innovating and investing to provide our customers and market participants with the products and the insights that they need to decode risks and unlock opportunities. Lastly, all of this would not be possible without the tremendous efforts of our people, and I want to thank them for all of their continued hard work and dedication. That concludes my prepared remarks.
Mark and I would be pleased to take your questions. Operator?
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Good morning. I really welcome the new format for the earnings call. You're assuming issuance volumes decline 30% it looks like in 2022 based on your supplemental materials. How much conservatism is baked into that guidance? What is the assumption for issuance volume performance over the remainder of the year compared to performance over the first seven months? How should we think about seasonality in 3Q issuance?
Yeah, George, thanks for the feedback. I suspect there'll be a few questions on issuance and outlook on this call. I'm going to start, George, by trying to take kind of a big picture view, and then I will get to your question about, you know, kind of year to date, year to go. Let me try to put this year's issuance into some sort of historical perspective. You know, first of all, there are two, not one, but two big shocks that are impacting the markets at the same time right now. The first is what I think we all understand is the inevitable monetary tightening after a period of historically low interest rates. Now we've got the Fed aggressively addressing inflation.
That has caused a lot of uncertainty in regards to both the trajectory and the pace of rate increases versus what I think the market had both assumed and was hoping for would be a kinda slow and steady and well understood trajectory of rate increases during a period of tightening. The second shock that we've got is the uncertainty around the duration and the severity of the Russia-Ukraine crisis. That's obviously led to a spike in energy prices that's further contributed to inflation, and it's also just eroded, I think, global confidence in general. Not to mention, we are still dealing with COVID-19 and the knock-on impacts of supply chain disruptions. That's a lot of complexity.
That complexity is causing tremendous volatility in the markets that we're all, you know, living through as investors are trying to navigate all these interdependent shocks and their implications. Now, let me put this in perspective. With all of that going on, our outlook for issuance this year is almost exactly on top of the average annual issuance of something like $4.4 trillion over the last decade, excluding the pandemic years of 2020 and 2021. Yes, you know, issuance is gonna be down significantly, but, you know, when you think about comparing it to 2019, that was quite a normal functioning year.
Great. As a follow-up, you've previously given medium-term targets for MIS margins in the low 60s. What are your latest views on medium-term MIS margins, and how much flexibility do you have in managing MIS expenses?
Good morning, George. MIS's medium to long-term business fundamentals remain intact. That's again based on our view that the current market disruption in issuance is cyclical rather than structural in nature. Our view is informed by several data points and observations. For example, the stock of debt has steadily grown over the past several decades. The price to value is compelling for our customers, and that there are strong refinancing needs that will buttress the transactional revenue base. I'd also note that credit spreads themselves are close to historical averages, and the interest burden, you know, effectively remains low for corporates. Therefore, you know, as issuance growth normalizes in the future, we expect the MIS-adjusted operating margin to stabilize in that low 60% range.
Furthermore, we are continuing to carefully evaluate our expense base, while reinvesting through the cycle to support strategic expense growth initiatives in MIS. That's gonna include ESG and climate, technology enablement, strengthening of our analytical capabilities, as well as expansion into new markets, regions, and evolving risk areas. With that, I'd say we still feel confident about that low sixties medium-term target range.
Got it. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Kevin McVeigh with Credit Suisse.
Great. Thanks so much. Again, I'd like to make a statement on the new disclosures very helpful. I guess, just following up on the issuance, you know, could you frame out, 'cause to your point, the $4.4 trillion seems like the ten-year average. I know we're not going out to 2023, but as you think about, you know, kinda beyond 2022, does it hover around that? You know, maybe just talk to supply versus demand dynamics within the context of issuance more, what gets investors reengaged? Is it the Fed funds rate increase at the end of the month or more visibility on Ukraine? I know that's a hard question, but just any way to frame where you think that gets reengaged and whether or not it's just the refinancings that ultimately trigger some incremental issuance.
Yeah. Kevin, so let me maybe talk a little bit about, you know, kinda upsides and downsides, you know, to kind of our outlook and see if this addresses your question. Let me know. You know, look, I think in developing the outlook, you know, we feel like it's largely, you know, kinda weighted towards the downside. We've effectively taken the activity and the market conditions that we've seen in the first half of the year. We've effectively rolled that forward for the balance of this year and assume that that's effectively what we're gonna have for the rest of the year. You know, you're asking kinda what could get maybe the market started.
I think one of the keys that we're gonna look at is, you know, whether we continue with economic growth or whether we tip into recession. I think one of the keys to that is inflation. You know, if the Fed can get that under control, you know, I think there's the possibility that they pull back from more aggressive rate hikes towards the end of this year and into 2023. I mean, you mentioned Russia-Ukraine. Certainly, you know, some sort of resolution there, which would address some of the supply chain issues and ease some of the inflation on commodity prices. Also just reinforce market confidence, I think would be a positive.
That point around confidence, you know, is very important, because it's very difficult for issuers to issue into volatile markets. The volatility that we see in equity markets translates into volatility in issuing in the debt markets. Some period of stability. That's why the kind of certainty in resolving some of these things, I think, will be quite helpful. You know, in terms of headwinds, you know, it's a little bit of a converse, right? It's worth mentioning, you know, in a recession scenario, that's when we'd see, you know, defaults likely start to tick up and spreads widen. That would be, you know, a headwind. We're keeping, you know, really kind of keeping an eye on that.
Rob, that's super helpful. Just to follow up real quick, it seems like you're keeping the expense investments intact against kind of some of the adjustments in revenue. Is that just a function of the confidence in the business, or is there opportunity to maybe take advantage of some of the dislocation that the market currently offers?
Kevin, we view very much, as Rob mentioned a moment ago, the market conditions as being cyclical in nature. That really means we're gonna plan to invest through the cycle as we execute on our strategy of providing global integrated perspectives on risk. The opportunity set itself is very substantial, in markets that are large and expanding, KYC and compliance, banking and insurance. Therefore, you know, even though we're continuing to evaluate and support investment opportunities underpinning, our future revenue growth and expansion, we're gonna balance that against, those activities that are needed to generate short-term cost efficiencies to support our margins and ultimately help us achieve our medium-term, margin objectives.
For example, we remain committed to organically invest $150 million in areas this year like product development, sales distribution capacity, as well as an additional $50 million into our and back to our employees. That's gonna be balanced against some of the new cost efficiencies which are derived from the 2022-2023 Geolocation Restructuring Program that we announced this morning. We've also learned since the beginning of the pandemic that many business activities can be performed successfully remotely. You know, while T&E costs may rise as compared to prior two years, we're gonna prioritize customer-facing travel where needed. Of course, we have that naturally.
We have some naturally occurring expense levers such as the incentive compensation accruals, which are obviously gonna flex based on our actual performance, as compared to the targets we set at the beginning of the year.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question will come from Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley.
Thanks so much. Let's throw one in on MA. It looked like you lowered the guide, but only because of FX. Essentially kept it, you know, in line there. The ARR, you're expecting to accelerate into the end of the year. I thought that that was actually a really positive data point. Maybe just give some color on, you know, what's driving that, you know, and, you know, is the environment still, you know, somewhat positive, you know, on that side? Would you expect that that becomes more challenged, but you can outperform the environment, or would you expect that that just continues to do well because of clients wanting, you know, risk solutions, et cetera?
Hey, Toni, it's Rob, thanks for you know kind of peeling back the onion there. So I think you got the right message, the right takeaway on MA. The results are really in line with our prior expectations on a constant dollar basis. You know, as we mentioned, FX was a significant headwind this quarter, reduced growth by five percentage points. And on an organic constant dollar basis, revenue grew at 8%. And our guide for the full year incorporated a little bit of a seasonality that you're seeing in the quarter-to-quarter results in MA, and that relates mostly to our banking and insurance businesses within Decision Solutions. I think you know you hit on it.
The key here is that we are still confident in achieving our full year revenue guidance. We've adjusted that guide solely to account for the impact of FX. I think very importantly, and one reason we introduced ARR was to kind of look through revenue and the quarterly impacts of revenue and be able to really focus on the growth in the base of recurring revenue. We continue to feel confident about our ability to hit the low double-digit guide for ARR growth. Let me give you a little bit of insight into what's driving, you know, that acceleration through the end of the year. We've talked about how we have realigned our entire global sales organization really to better organize around our customers.
We're continuing to invest to build out our capabilities across all parts of our sales organization to be able to both deepen the penetration of existing customers as we have broadened our product suite and also to bring in some new logos. You know, we believe that those investments are in fact showing some early results. Our sales meeting activity levels have gone up pretty meaningfully as a result. Our gross business per sales rep has been pretty consistent with our expectations. That means that even as we have added salespeople, they have remained as productive on a per head basis as before. We're getting some good production out of the new sales team.
The second thing is, you know, through the first half of the year, we've had some good price capture, compared to our historical level. That really, again, is due to the enhancements that we continue to make to our products and really enhances that value proposition and our ability to capture price. A good example of some of the stuff we're doing, and you're gonna see in coming quarters, is around CreditView, where we're continuing to redesign that web-based flagship web credit research platform. We're overhauling the look and feel. We're gonna have come out with considerably greater functionality and content, and that will be a good opportunity for us to price for value.
The last thing, Toni, I would say, that's giving us confidence just, you know, obviously, we monitor our sales pipeline very, very closely. The sales pipeline right now is very strong and gives us confidence in our ability to hit that ARR number for the year.
Perfect. That sounds great. For the follow-up, Mark, I know you lowered the free cash flow guide about 20% at the midpoint versus prior midpoint. I know MIS probably the biggest piece of there, of that, but is there anything else that you wanna call out in terms of, you know, lower free cash flow guide, and then, also in terms of use of capital, outlook on sort of buyback, you lowered that as well. Thanks.
Toni, let me take the free cash flow question, and then separately, I'll address the share repurchases and the buyback guidance. That's absolutely a question which comes up a little bit later on. In terms of free cash flow guide for the year, what we wanted to do is to reflect the year-to-date global free cash flow of $628 million. That was down around 49%, primarily on, to your point, the lower net income that's been driven by the reduction in MIS revenue due to significantly curtailed issuance. In addition, this quarter, we also had a tax-related working capital headwind, the impact of which is expected to partially reverse out later this year. That's reflected in our updated full year outlook.
The midpoint of our revised full year 2022 free cash flow guidance of $1.4-$1.6 does imply a free cash flow to U.S. GAAP net income conversion ratio that's approximately 100%. That means that our refreshed 2022 guidance at the midpoint now assumes both adjusted diluted EPS and free cash flow will decrease in the low 20% range.
Perfect. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Ashish Sabadra with RBC.
Hi. Just wanted to drill down further on the issuance side. I was wondering if you could talk about the pipeline for new issuers. Also, if you could just talk about, like, what percentage of the issuance right now is really coming from new issuance versus refinancing of existing debt, and any thoughts around how that could trend for the rest of the year and exiting the year. Thanks.
Hey, Ashish. Maybe let me talk a little bit about what's going on with our first time mandates, and these are, you know, new issuers into the market, and then I'll give you a little bit of color on what's going on, currently in the market, kind of what we're seeing. We've revised our range for first time mandates down from, it was 850-950 in the last quarter. We've revised that down to 700-800 for the year. That's because we had another slower quarter. U.S. first time mandate activity remained muted, I would say. It's pretty highly correlated to leveraged finance issuance. That's where most of your first time issuers into the market come from.
We expect the activity levels that we've seen in the first half, kinda like our broader issuance outlook to remain pretty steady in the second half of the year. I think September will be, you know, a key month. It will be post earnings blackout, post summer, and we'll see if there's some issuers that have been sitting on the sidelines that choose to hit the market at that point. It's interesting. We have something like a little over 400 first time mandates that we signed through the first half of the year, but not all those are coming to market. In fact, just to give you a...
Put a little meat on the bones there, so far this year and excluding APAC, about 40% of the new mandates that we've signed have not actually printed. That number was something like 10% in the first half of 2021. To give you a sense, you know, it typically takes something like two months, you know, from the time that we execute an engagement and the issuer actually issues a bond. That timeframe has more than doubled. You know, in terms of what kind of market do we have right now, you know, obviously, it is still a very challenging environment. The sentiment changes from week to week and even day to day.
I would say at the very moment, there's a positive tone in the markets. You know, this week, investment-grade issuance has had its best week in something like 12 weeks. The issuance is generally dominated by financial institutions, but that may change as we kinda get through blackouts here. High-yield and leveraged loans has still been pretty light. We have seen a few high-yield deals hit the market earlier this week. The secondary market firmed up towards the end of last week. Spreads came in something like, you know, 40 basis points or so. But you know, in general, it's still a pretty quiet market for leveraged finance.
Maybe, Ashish, just to add a little bit onto our to Rob's remarks. We do anticipate the absolute dollar MIS transaction revenue to be slightly lower in the second half of the year vis-a-vis the first half of the year, and that would align to the historical issuance patterns we've seen over the prior five years, where on average, the second half of the year has traditionally contributed about 47% of the full year's transaction-based revenue. Furthermore, you know, we expect that total MIS revenue to return to more of that saw tooth type pattern consistent with what we've observed prior to the pandemic, and that will cause a little bit of margin headwinds in the third quarter.
That's very helpful color. Then my second question was just gonna be on the expense bridge. This is on slide 23, where you've provided the expense bridge. I didn't see incentive comp broken out as it was broken out in the first quarter. I was wondering if you could provide any color on how we should think about incentive comp's decline in 2022 versus 2021.
Absolutely. Maybe let me spend a minute on expense bridge, and then I'll get to the direct question around incentive compensation. For the full year 2022 operating expense guidance, we are reaffirming high single-digit percent growth. That includes $31 million in accrued expenses as part of the 2022/2023 Geolocation Restructuring Program that we announced this morning. If we excluded that restructuring charge, our outlook for full year, operating expenses would have been in the mid single-digit percent growth range. Specifically for, full year 2022, you could see anticipated expense growth of approximately 8 percentage points, related to acquisitions completed in the last 12 months, primarily RMS. Approximately 1 percentage point related to the restructuring program I just mentioned.
Operating growth and investments net of ongoing cost efficiencies, 6 percentage points, and then lower incentive comp minus 6 percentage points. Effectively operating growth and investments being approximately flat. Of course, a partial offset from favorable movement in foreign exchange rates. Two more points. The outlook also then implies year-over-year operating expense growth of a decline in the low single-digit percent range. While we don't normally provide expense growth forecast by segment, given that we still expect the majority of our 2022 strategic investments to support future MA revenue opportunities, the year-over-year segment implied guidance would be a high single-digit percent decline and a mid single-digit percent increase for MIS and MA respectively.
Onto your specific question, the second quarter and year to date incentive compensation accrual was approximately $50 million and approximately $114 million respectively. For full year 2022, we expect incentive compensation to be around $240 million, including RMS.
Mark, that was very helpful color. Thank you.
Our next question will come from Alex Kramm with UBS.
Yes. Hello, everyone. Just of course, coming back to MIS for a second here. You multiple times have talked about the normalization that you expect to occur. Just wondering if you look out a little bit more than just the next couple of quarters, how much confidence we should be having? I guess what I'm asking specifically is, you know, in prior periods of issuance declines, and that's obviously what we're looking for, 30% down, we've seen a pretty big snapback. I think a lot of people expect that to happen again next year. I'm just wondering how much confidence we should be having in that. Like, the refinancing walls actually don't really start increasing for a couple of years. Obviously, M&A has been down year to date.
Lastly, with higher rates and higher spreads, the kind of opportunistic financing is still pretty anemic. Just wondering how much confidence you have that we get that snapback next year, or if it could actually take a couple of years for that normalization to play out.
Yeah, Alex, maybe a couple things. Again, I'm just gonna give you a few kind of data points and perspectives, just to try to triangulate around this. You know, we kinda looked at issuance over the last 10 years and then compared that to our current outlook for 2022. Just to give you a sense of kind of what we're dealing with, the last time that overall corporate finance issuance was below this current outlook was 10 years ago. It was back in 2012. When you look at our average issuance over that 10-year period, and you exclude the 2020 and 2021 periods, our outlook for investment grade is about 10%-15% below that 10-year average.
Looking at leveraged finance, our outlook implies issuance probably 5-6% above that ten-year average. You know, the high yield market is very quiet. In fact, we're seeing levels of issuance that are even below 2009. You know, an important component to our overall kind of outlook is leveraged loans. I think, you know, I'm gonna tie that on then to thinking about how to triangulate that then to our medium-term outlook, because we continue to feel good about that medium-term outlook. You know, you've heard me talk about issuance over this kind of ten-year period.
Whether you look at overall issuance or just fundamental issuance, so either overall including structure or just fundamental, it's grown roughly in line with GDP growth. Obviously, you know, plus or minus a percent or two, and GDP growth grew at something like 3%, yeah, over that period. Obviously, there have been, you know, puts and takes to that on any given year. The asset class with the fastest issuance growth has been leveraged loans over that period of time. That contributed to a favorable mix over the time period. You hear us talk about it on these calls all the time. Now let me go to medium term.
If you think about the building blocks that we always talk about, GDP growth, pricing, recurring revenue growth from first time mandates and mix. If we've got modest economic growth, which is the outlook, I think, you know, kind of in the near to medium term, let's call it low single digits, then translate that to issuance growth, and low single digits is probably a reasonable assumption based on history, like I was just talking about. You got a modest benefit from ongoing disintermediation. Rather than mix as a tailwind, I'd probably assume it's either neutral to a slight headwind. If we're in a recessionary scenario, we're probably at the low end of that, you know, low to mid-single digit range.
If we're experiencing recovery and expansion, we'd expect to be at the higher end of that range. Alex, hopefully that gives you a little bit of a sense of why we continue to be comfortable with that kinda medium term guidance. I know we got a lot of questions about it when we first put it out into the market, but I think, you know, you can kinda see where we're coming from here.
No, no. This is helpful, and I appreciate very uncertain times these days. Just maybe quick one then, and apologies if that has come up already on the Moody's Analytics side. Seems like clearly a lot of mission critical products, a lot of demand because you're expanding into high growth areas. Just any areas that I should be aware of as it comes to potential pockets of risks, things that maybe clients can do without in a tougher selling environment or any areas where maybe sales cycles are lengthening at all or is it really strong across the board?
Alex, not really. We continue to have some very strong retention rates, and there's nothing I'd point to there.
Easy enough. Thank you.
Our next question will come from Andrew Steinerman with J.P. Morgan.
Hi. I wanted to ask about Decision Solutions. Rob, you mentioned some seasonality of a specific product in that area. I guess you were talking about it here in the second quarter because, you know, Decision Solutions organic revenue growth year-over-year substantially decelerated to 8%. If you could just tell us about the banking product that kind of drove that growth deceleration in the second quarter. Of course, you can imagine the other side of that question is, you know, will that seasonality of that banking product benefit third quarter organic revenue growth for Decision Solutions?
Yeah, Andrew. Let me first start by just reminding everybody about the really kind of the core components of what's in Decision Solutions. The largest business collectively by revenue is insurance, when we look at kind of our legacy insurance business in RMS. Second is banking, and third is KYC. Then we've got a few other smaller businesses like structured finance and so on. We had very good growth across the entire sub-segment of Decision Solutions, particularly KYC. You know, I think the best thing to do is to look at ARR here 'cause there's been a little bit of revenue lumpiness in the first half of the year. When I referred to seasonality, that's really what I was referring to. You know, let me just kinda take some of the key numbers.
As you said, Andrew, organic constant dollar revenue 8% in the quarter, 16% last quarter. However, the key number here is organic ARR grew at 11% for Decision Solutions, and that's the same as last quarter. There's the same altitude of kind of sales and building the book of recurring revenue. There's no change there. KYC continues to be a you know kind of a high flyer growing in the you know kind of mid-20% on an organic constant dollar basis. So where does the lumpiness come from? Both our insurance and banking businesses have a mix still of on-prem and SaaS solutions. You've heard us talk about, you know, we're working to migrate more of the portfolio to SaaS.
That's true, but we still have a suite of on-prem products that introduce an element of lumpiness given, you know, some aspects of revenue recognition. That was the case for the first half of this year. We accounted for that as we thought about our full year guide. You know, insurance, RMS, you heard me say, you know, on track. Our insurance, our legacy insurance business, growing very nicely. Banking, there we're seeing some very nice growth as well. I'm gonna touch on that in just a second in terms of what is driving that. We've got three primary areas that we serve for banks, lending, risk management, finance and planning. We're continuing to really build out our SaaS offerings.
That is the highest growth part of our banking business. It allows us to really deliver a lot more functionality and usability to our customers that then drives a lot more usage from our customers, and that supports the overall, you know, kind of value proposition and pricing opportunity for us. One area I would maybe call out, Andrew, is commercial real estate. You've heard us talk a lot about the investments that we've been making there. Obviously, commercial real estate's very important to our banking customers, and we recently signed a strategic partnership with one of the largest commercial real estate lenders in the country to, you know, kind of co-develop a commercial real estate lending solution.
We're very excited about doing that and bringing together all of our commercial real estate data and analytics with our cloud-based loan origination tools to really help this bank and other banks with a more holistic view to streamline their processes. That's one example, but I'm gonna come back to the key takeaway here for Decision Solutions, because we've had some volatility in the revenue from quarter to quarter, is look at ARR. ARR for Decision Solutions is 11% in the quarter, same as last quarter, so no change to the very good growth we're seeing across the entire Decision Solutions portfolio.
Right. Rob, there was a piece at the end. Do you expect the seasonality to benefit third quarter for Decision Solutions organic revenues?
I think what we're likely to see in third quarter is pretty similar to what we've seen in the second quarter, and then an acceleration at the end of the year in the fourth quarter.
Okay. Thanks, Mark.
Our next question comes from Andrew Nicholas with William Blair.
Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. First one was just kind of on your own M&A appetite. Obviously a challenging environment, or at least a choppy one. Does the current economic conditions or perhaps some conservatism from a growth perspective heading into the end of the year impact how you're thinking about doing deals? I know you already kind of lowered share repurchase expectations due to the free cash flow, presumably the free cash flow decline, but wondering how that impacts your outlook for M&A as well.
Good afternoon. I'm gonna spend just a minute talking about share repurchases, and then I'm gonna turn it over to Rob to touch on the M&A component of your question. Perhaps most importantly, our capital planning and allocation strategy remains unchanged. This year we are still planning to return approximately $1.5 billion to our stockholders or approximately 100% of our projected 2022 free cash flow, at the midpoint of our guidance range. As you can appreciate, you know, global economic conditions have significantly weakened relative to our first quarter outlook. We spoke about several of those factors, but primarily, you know, the uncertainty around the duration and severity of the conflict in Ukraine, as well as, you know, heightened inflationary risks.
Although we ultimately view these market conditions and the disruption to be cyclical, we are being very thoughtful about our leverage and liquidity levels. We're gonna do that in order to ensure that we maintain a strong balance sheet and an equally important financial flexibility. As a result, we have lowered our guidance for full year 2022 share repurchases to approximately $1 billion. That means we've adopted a slightly more conservative short-term approach to capital management with the philosophy of preserving financial firepower to be able to take advantage of market conditions, if and when they arise.
Yeah, let me add to that. You know, we had done a number of bolt-on acquisitions over the last, you know, let's call it 18 months. We have been really focused on executing on that portfolio of acquisitions and integrating and getting the real business value out of those acquisitions. In fact, we track our performance against our acquisition cases, and we review them every quarter. You know, we included in the slides kind of our performance on some of our larger acquisitions to date, and we feel very good about that.
It's interesting, you know, because I ran the corporate development team for years and, you know, in these periods of market dislocation, you know, the initial instinct is to think, "Oh, well, this has got to be a buyer's market. Valuations are down so sharply." You know, like we're talking about, you know, what's the duration of this, you know, kind of correction? The same thing the sellers are thinking about. You know, if this is a 6-, 9-, 12-month, you know, correction, I remember when we were talking about multiples at one level 12 months ago, and so I'm not a seller. You tend to see, oftentimes some disconnects between valuation expectations between buyers and sellers in these markets.
If you've got companies that have, you know, very leveraged capital structures, eventually that may force them to do something. That's often not the case in our sector. I guess the last thing I would say is, you know, like Mark said, you know, we've got plenty of financial firepower. We have, you know, a very clear view of the kinds of things that our customers want and need from us and what would be additive to our, you know, offerings for our customers. We're always on the lookout, but I'd say, you know, we're gonna continue to be, you know, disciplined in this market and continue to extract the value out of the things that we have invested in over the last 12-18 months.
Great. Thank you. That's helpful. Then maybe a follow-up, Rob, to a point that you made on kind of the success of some of your acquisitions of late. Obviously on slide 22, you note mid-30s type growth for your screening capabilities, and being ahead of plan there in terms of $300 million of revenue in that business. I was wondering if you could-
Spend a little bit more time on what exactly within that business is outperforming your initial expectations. Obviously the market is a strong one, but if there's anything from an execution standpoint or a product offering standpoint that's really resonating with customers, would love to hear it. Thank you.
Yeah. I think this is really about, you know, our KYC. Again, I'm warning you, we may move on from that term because I think in some ways it's a little too limiting for what it is. Very simply, we help customers assess, screen, and monitor the individuals and companies that they do business with or that they want to do business with. We do that by helping them know the entities and individuals by understanding the risks associated with those third parties, and also to execute at scale with some workflow tools. You've heard us talk about, you know, the goal here is to be both more efficient and more effective.
You know, I mentioned at Investor Day, you know, virtually every company around the world is working to better understand the risk profile of their customers, but also their suppliers and other counterparties. There's a big opportunity here. Back to acquisitions and investments. You know, the fourth quarter of last year, we were pretty active in this space, and we made several acquisitions. That has allowed us to begin assembling a much more comprehensive offering to support customers in their KYC workflow. That includes data and intelligence with really unmatched coverage on entities, ownership, and companies. It includes an element of workflow orchestration with highly configurable, integrated, and automated KYC management. And also the thought leadership and expertise that our customers expect of Moody's.
We're pulling all of this together in a way, you know, leveraging these world-class datasets, leveraging now this highly configurable workflow platform and all the expertise we have to not only help with, as I said, the traditional know your customer use cases, but now going even more broadly to know your counterparty, know your supplier, and so on. There's a lot to it. But you know, all of that, you know, back to your original question about RDC and what we had said, you know, we knew that RDC was gonna be a very important component of basically unlocking our opportunity here. In fact, it has been.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question will come from Faiza Alwy with Deutsche Bank.
Yes. Hi, thank you. I wanted to just put a finer point on your medium-term outlook for MIS. I think at the time of when you put out that outlook, it was based off of, you know, 2021 issuance levels. I just want to clarify. I think what I'm hearing you say is that we should think about the base now as, you know, more 2019. Like, is that the right way to think about sort of normalized growth from here, or am I misunderstanding what you're saying with respect to your medium-term outlook?
Yeah, I think generally, I think that is right you know, some of the reasons that we've talked about on the call so far.
Maybe to just add one.
Yes.
Maybe just add one quick comment to Rob's remark, is when we set our medium-term outlook for MIS revenue in particular, we did build in a period of stress and economic stress into the model as the setting of our medium-term target really followed the point that you're making, two historically strong years of issuance in 2020 and 2021.
Okay. Understood. Just as a follow-up on the MA business, I heard you say that you haven't seen anything, you know, any type of slowing in any component of that business at this moment in time. I'm curious again on your medium-term outlook, which was in the teens. Like, how resilient do you think that business is, to, you know, to the macro environment in general? Are you confident in those targets going forward?
Yeah, you know, we've talked about this a bit before. It's a very resilient business. You know, I think the reason for that is if you think about what we're helping our customers do, you know, we talk about, again, it may sound a little bit trite, but in these periods of uncertainty, you've got customers who are trying to navigate all this uncertainty, and they need expertise. They need data, they need analytics, they need expertise. They really, really value us in those periods. As we've continued to broaden out our offerings, you know, you think about, I talked about what are we doing in banking. It's, you know, loan origination, risk and finance, risk management and finance and planning.
Those are not things that banks are turning off in periods of stress. Think about what's going on across our insurance portfolio. I mean, we've got models that are literally at the very heart of pricing property and casualty risk for insurers. In our KYC business, you've got to make sure that you are not doing business with sanctioned entities or bad people, whether we're in good periods or bad periods. We have some very mission-critical workflows that we're serving for customers. You can see from the retention rates, this stuff is very sticky. You know, once we're embedded into these workflows, you know, the retention rates are very high.
That's why I, you know, I tend to feel quite confident about the business even when we're in periods of, you know, kind of market stress.
Great. Thank you so much.
Our next question will come from Manav Patnaik with Barclays.
Good afternoon. This is Brendan on for Manav. I just wanted to ask, and I apologize for going back to this, but about the issuance that you talked about the $4.4 trillion, you know, it's near the average if you exclude the pandemic. I just want to be clear. It sounds like you're saying, you know, is this more so a new base to grow off of based on your current guidance when we think about 2023? Or are you still thinking there's a bit of rebound that could happen? Or is that more so when the refinancing walls pick up beyond that?
Hey, Brendan. Good to have you on the call. I mean, I think we have to acknowledge that the last two years were unusual years, you know? I think, you know, a lot of analysts and investors are looking back at long time series of issuance just like we are. Those last two years are in fact unusual. I, you know, as we're, you know, kind of running our scenarios, you know, we are kind of looking at historical patterns and what we think is, you know, reasonable growth, you know, on a go-forward basis.
Okay. Just wanted to ask on the RMS and ESG, your businesses, how that's doing and any current trends, any change in trends there in the last couple of months. After that, just anything on M&A opportunities in that space or if it's still pretty, you know, pretty pricey.
Yeah, let me start with RMS. So, it's been almost a year, in fact, since we announced the acquisition. We're having some, you know, I've talked about a little bit in the past, some very encouraging discussions with major insurers and reinsurers who really want to automate and digitize and integrate. We're integrating across our products. We were co-creating new products. Last quarter, I think I mentioned that, you know, we're mapping all of the properties in CMBS securities to RMS data. There are a few other areas where we're making some nice kind of early progress. There are a number of use cases for banks that we have identified and are starting to get some traction helping banks, particularly around looking at physical risk in their portfolios.
We're working on starting to do the same around transition risk. You mentioned ESG, Brendan. A lot of interest from insurers in integrating our ESG data and scores into RMS's underwriting solutions so that they can, you know, better understand the ESG profile of companies, as they're underwriting and looking at their broader portfolio. We've already got several very nice customer wins there, and we are building a nice pipeline. We also have some very nice product enhancements. As you may remember, before we bought RMS, we had a small climate business. Now we're able to take those RMS models and data and to be able to kind of power some of those climate solutions, some of our climate on-demand solutions.
We're also starting to pick up the pace around cross-selling conversations with insurers to help them around a broader range of risk assessment needs. In general, feeling pretty good about, you know, what's going on across the company in terms of not just RMS, but also in terms of climate and ESG.
Maybe, just two quick, quantification points there to help with the modeling. We still expect RMS' sales growth to be in the mid-single-digit perecent range this year, and that's obviously up from the historical growth rate of the low single digits . Then for 2022, we're expecting to further increase our direct and attributable ESG-related revenue by about 20% to $34 million. That's just a little bit lower than what we previously forecast, simply reflecting some weakness in the sustainable finance market.
Thank you. Just anything on M&A and ESG?
You know, it's a pretty fragmented market. There aren't a lot of, you know, kind of scale opportunities to move the needle out there. That was one reason that we, you know, we really felt good about the acquisition of RMS because, you know, you look around and you think, you know, if climate analytics are important to your customers, how do you get that at scale? How do you get that in a platform that you feel very, very confident in the analytics? You know, it was a discussion we had with our board at the time of the acquisition. You know, RMS has been serving the global insurance industry for over 30 years. So you know that those models are robust.
I guess I would say, you know, ESG probably primarily an organic opportunity. We've been investing organically. We keep our ears to the ground. Like I said, not a lot of scale opportunities out there.
Thank you.
Our next question will come from Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets.
Thanks. I know it's late. I'll just ask one. I was wondering if we can just get a little bit more color about what you're calling, I guess, the Geolocation Restructuring Program, not only in terms of details, but I'm just curious why now? Why not last quarter? Why not next quarter, et cetera?
The 75 million or up to 75 million Geolocation Restructuring Program that we announced this morning was really focused on optimizing our existing real estate footprint, further utilizing our lower cost locations where the requisite skills and talents exist, and really ensuring our focus and resources remain firmly allocated to our prioritized areas of opportunity. Why now? I think the workforce of the future, workplace of the future, our programs equities are progressing well, and that has presented opportunities for us to be more efficient with use of that stockholder capital. That means for the second quarter that we recorded that $31 million pre-tax restructuring charge, which is mostly related to personnel expenses.
Then as we exit and cease use of our leased office space, which is expected to really begin in the fourth quarter of this year and continue through the first half of 2023, you can expect us to reflect between another $25-$35 million in pre-tax restructuring charges in our financials. For the $40-$60 million in annualized savings that we anticipate generating through these actions, the majority is gonna be redeployed towards our strategic investments, and that's gonna include further workplace enhancements, further employee retention initiatives. The idea here is really to be able to create that financial flexibility to balance between profitability in the short term and then supporting business margin expansions over the long term.
Finally, just as an aside, if the issuance downturn is more severe and protracted than what we've modeled as our central case, you could expect us to take more aggressive actions around expenses, in the future.
Okay. That's really helpful, Mark. Thanks so much.
Our next question will come from Craig Huber with Huber Research Partners.
Great. Thank you. I wanted to get back to this, Decision Solutions, sub-segment, if I could. Obviously, it was up 12% organically, excluding currency for 6 months, but only up 8% here in the second quarter, year-over-year. You talked about the banking piece of that, if I heard you right, being the major reason for the slowdown, I guess. Wasn't that also an issue in the first quarter? I guess I'm trying to figure out what's changed in the latest 3 months versus the first quarter to account for the slower growth there.
Yeah, Craig, I guess maybe a couple things I would just flag and back to the, you know, both banking and insurance have some, as I said, both a mix of on-prem and SaaS solutions. You know, you had some aspect of, I'll call it kinda timing and revenue recognition that contributed to what was going on in the first quarter and as well in the second quarter. That's one reason that we kinda keep going back to ARR because it gives the ability to kinda look through some of the, you know, kind of rev rec issues that you get from, you know, kinda this, you know, this on-prem product suite that we still have.
You know, back to as I think about the underlying you know, kind of health of that business, I'm looking at ARR for Decision Solutions, 11% same as it was last quarter.
My follow-up, please. On the credit research business you guys had for many years, obviously. Maybe just touch on the growth rates there you're seeing. It seems like it's holding up quite well despite the very volatile markets. Maybe talk about pricing there, if you could. Has that changed at all. Thank you.
Yeah. You're right. That continues to be a very nice business for us. You know, I talked a little bit about, you know, the kind of demand in times of uncertainty. That's certainly true. In fact, we've shared, you know, some statistics around usage, and you saw during COVID, you know, usage really spiked. We saw during, you know, the Ukraine crisis usage spiked because our customers view this as a really kind of must-have insights into the credit markets. You know, that all then supports the value proposition and the pricing opportunity for us. We've also had some success in actually expanding the, you know, kind of broad usage at some of our customers as well.
All of that is, you know, contributing to supporting what is, you know, continuing to be some nice growth. I also mentioned, Craig, you know, we're continuing to make some enhancements in that CreditView platform that we think will provide ongoing support for growth.
Great. Thank you.
Moving on to Owen Lau with Oppenheimer.
Thank you for taking my question. I only have a quick, two-part question. The first part is, could you please talk about the FX impact to your overall business, to the overall results, in the second quarter? The second part is, with regard to the interest expense guidance. I think you raised that number a little bit. Could you please talk more about that and how we should think about the sensitivity on rising rates and how we should model out the interest expense going forward. Thank you.
Owen, good afternoon, and thank you. I'll start with the FX impact first. I'll try to be comprehensive here as I realize this is an important element for consideration. In the second quarter, we did see the US dollar strengthen quite considerably against both the euro and the British pound. Specifically the end of quarter spot rates were $1.05 against the euro and $1.21 against the pound. That's, you know, meaningfully down from 1.11 against the euro and 1.31 against the pound at last forecast . As a result, the quarterly MCO, MIS, and MA revenues were unfavorably impacted by approximately 3%, 2%, and 5% respectively.
The net impact of all of that flowed down to adjusted diluted EPS of about -$0.07 in the quarter. If I step back just for a minute, so approximately 45% of our revenue is generated through our international operations. Of that, approximately 65% is generated in EMEA. Further strengthening of the US dollar, specifically against the euro, is going to weigh on our actual results as the year progresses. Similarly, about 40% of our operating expense base is denominated in non-US dollar currency, as over 60-ish% of our employees are located outside of the US, and that's gonna help neutralize or at least partially neutralize the FX movements.
If I were to roughly quantify the annualized impacts of foreign currency movement, for modeling purposes, every 1-cent FX movement between the dollar and the euro is gonna impact full-year EPS by approximately $0.02 and full-year revenue by about $8-$10 million. Every 1-cent FX movement between the dollar and the British pound is gonna impact full-year revenue by about $2 million and expenses by about $2 million. More or less neutral on an EPS basis. Finally, if I think forward, when we set our medium-term targets back in February, we had assumed constant foreign currency exchange rates over the medium term. Specifically the euro of 1.14 to the dollar and the pound of 1.35 to the dollar.
If foreign exchange rates remain at the current levels or if the US dollar continues to appreciate, we're gonna see, you know, a little bit of headwind to achieving the medium-term targets become a bit more pronounced. On your second question around interest expense guidance, we do have a $500 million 2.625% coupon note that is maturing in January 2023. Our revised 2022 interest expense guidance of $220 million-$240 million incorporates the current expectation that we will look to refinance our January 2023 note in the second half of this year. Given the rise in benchmark rates, you could naturally expect a coupon or a higher coupon on a similar size and duration as the note that is due in early 2023.
For additional context, historically, we've refinanced upcoming maturities before they become due, and that's really part of our commitment to effectively manage our capital structure and maintain financial flexibility. The best example of that you can think about November 2021, when we refinanced the $500 million 4.5% debt that was maturing in 2022. Maybe last comment on this topic. In the event we don't proactively refinance the upcoming bond maturity, that would clearly reduce our interest expense expectation for the full year of 2022.
Thanks a lot, Mark.
Our next question will come from Russell Quelch with Redburn.
Yeah, thanks for having me on late in the day. Loads of the helpful comments so far on the expenses. I wondered if you could detail what you would be prepared to do with respect to reducing expenses in the second half of the year if we do see a continued deterioration in markets.
Hey, Russell, it's Rob. First of all, I just wanna welcome you to the call.
Just in terms of the additional actions that we would take during the second half of the year, I think there are two ways I'd like to look at this. There's definitely actions we'd take based on a cyclical outlook going into 2023, and then actions we'd take which is not our central case based on sort of a structural outlook going into 2023. In terms of cyclical activities that we could take, certainly slowing down hiring would be one. There are also natural expense levers in terms of managing our T&E costs as well as managing our incentive compensation accrual.
We also have the ability, though I would preserve this really for more structural-based outlook changes, of reducing our organic strategic investments during the year or staggering those, to be a slightly lower burn rate. I think the reason that's important is those initiatives really do underpin our medium-term guidance when we think about MIS and MA revenue.
Okay, cool. That's helpful. Thanks for the comment as well, Rob. As a follow-up, I just wanted to confirm from what you're saying in the guidance that you're not gonna be buying back any more shares for the rest of this year. From your comments, all the firepower is gonna be saved for bolt-on M&A. If that's the case, where do you believe you need to focus investment in M&A from a data product perspective? Perhaps as a final note and maybe a polite challenge, given the balance sheet's very healthy, as you noted, and the shares are sort of close to a 24-month low, why stop the buyback now? Thanks.
I, maybe just to reiterate some of the key points that we spoke about earlier. We have lowered our guidance for full year 2022 share repurchases to approximately $1 billion, and that is lower than our prior guidance of $1.5 billion. You could think about that as reflecting the current economic environment, specifically the fact that our outlook for full year net income or full year EPS is commensurately lower by that amount. From a CFO's perspective, it's important, at least at this point in time, to adopt a slightly more conservative approach to capital management. The idea here is to again preserve financial firepower, to be able to take advantage of market opportunities. Those market opportunities could include further share price repurchases or they could include M&A.
In other words, I'm not looking to signal one over the other, only to create financial flexibility as we approach the end of the year.
Okay. In terms of priorities, if it is M&A driven, where do you think you lack in terms of data or product?
Yeah, I think you've seen us be very active in that, you know, kind of know your customer verification space where we have a compelling set of assets in a high-growth market. You know, we're supplementing our acquisitions that we've done to date with organic investments, but there may be other opportunities there, and that would be very attractive for us because of the growth rates we're seeing and the traction that we're getting from customers. You know, I would say also, our banking business, you've seen us make some bolt-on acquisitions there over the last several years. It's the same with our insurance business.
You know, we've also over the last few years added what I'll call kind of domain capabilities that are really important to this idea of really bringing to life integrated risk assessment for our customers. ESG and climate and properties and other things we believe are, you know, we haven't done those at the same scale, but are important in terms of this concept of delivering integrated risk assessment for our customers.
Okay, great stuff.
Our next question will come from Jeff Meuler with Baird.
Yeah, thank you. The question is how independent are the M&A compensation plans from the MIS or overall corporate performance? I know shared services burden can shift and between the segments or it can impact executive comp and whatnot. I guess the lead in for the question would be, given the magnitude of the consolidated revenue guidance reduction, I would have expected more of an adjustment in that operating growth plus incentive compensation expense bucket. I'm wondering if the answer is largely because there's this big pool of MA expense that's largely untouched, given the current circumstances.
Yeah. I mean, overall, we have, you know, kind of one corporate bonus pool, then we obviously have allocations to our businesses and our functions guided by performance. I think at a high level, you're right. I mean, it's been a tale of two cities. You know, the MA performance has been quite strong, the MIS performance less so. You know, that we then expect that to be reflected in our compensation pools.
Okay. Mark, when I add up the factors on slide 23, I get to, like, 6% year-over-year growth. Are you trying to signal something at the lower end of the high single-digit percentage increase range? Just to be clear, that includes a point from restructuring charges which are then excluded on an adjusted EPS basis.
Thank you for allowing me to reconfirm that point. That's exactly right. I certainly like to signal the lower end of a high single-digit percentage growth for full year operating expenses. That, of course, to your point, includes approximately 1% from the restructuring program.
That restructuring is excluded from adjusted EPS, correct?
That is correct.
Okay, thank you.
Our next question comes from Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel.
Hi, good morning, or actually good afternoon. Thank you for taking my questions. I'm just trying to think a little bit about slide 17 in terms of MIS with the, you know, debt has grown throughout varied economic conditions. You know, is that really the right way to look at it? I mean, we're looking at 2008, where it looks like debt went up, but, you know, the MIS business had significant declines during that point in time. What should we be looking at in terms of really moving the needle back and forth for the business? Is it really, you know, should we be looking at high yield and leveraged loans?
I mean, how should we be thinking about debt and then the potential impact from rising interest rates, particularly in those securities, you know, in terms of, like, CFOs' interest in just rolling their debt forward at current levels or potentially looking to deleverage?
Yeah, maybe I'll provide a few perspectives, and then I'll see if Mark wants to build on that. I mean, you know, there are, I think, a number of ways to kind of triangulate around, you know, what you think kind of a growth rate for the business going forward is. You know, I do think the overall stock of global debt is an important one. What I think this chart in part shows is that you've obviously got, you know, new issuers coming into the market year after year. That stock of debt has continued to grow. That's very important because these maturity walls that we talk about provide kind of a ballast for the business. We've used the term kind of a ballast for the business.
There's just been a lot of debt that has been issued, in particular in the last few years. The overall just stock of debt has gotten much larger. Then we look at the flow of debt, and we've had, you know, I think a good bit of conversation about the flow of debt, on this call. You touched on mix. I mean, one of the big themes over the last 10 years was the growth of the leveraged finance markets. That, in fact, has been favorable to, you know, to our mix, over the years. You know, it's hard to say what I said, you know, in the near term, you could see mix being, you know, neutral or even negative.
Keep in mind, you know, part of what is driving that is that you have private equity firms that have raised an enormous amount of capital over the last few years. So they are deploying that capital with, you know, in buyout activity. And that has really fueled the leverage finance market and the leverage loan market in particular. I think that's actually been a kind of an important structural trend that has supported you know issuance over the last decade.
Maybe Shlomo, just to add on to Rob 's comments. I'll take it to a little bit of a different direction here, but I think will be helpful, as you consider, you know, the moment in history that we're in. The way I wanna approach this is really just taking it through the lens of cyclicality versus structural over time. When we think about a cyclical, you know, shift in issuance, and think about now both refinancing activity as well as new debt issuance. For example, you know, existing issuers growing their balance sheets or new companies accessing the debt markets, really could consider the following points. Firstly, a cyclical decline, which is our central case scenario, is really temporary until I suppose one of two conditions happen.
Either funding costs turn from rising to falling, or and/or growth trends turn from falling to rising. Our belief is that those two conditions really might be met by the second half of next year if inflation is reined in by the first half of next year, or by 2024 if this is a longer downturn, i.e., you know, inflation is hardly reining or growth suffers materially. Not our central case, but a structural decline in debt issuance, or you consider aggregate global deleveraging would be a longer-lasting phenomenon where companies and governments across various sectors and regions decide to shrink their balance sheets. That's really a result of, you know, demand or supply and balance.
You think about on the demand side, longer-term, global growth prospects are lowered so significantly that companies aren't expanding or social needs have fallen. Governments aren't expanding services, for example. Similarly, on the supply side, savers are saving less, and there is less money to borrow, or savers are investing in vehicles other than the debt markets. I think the key point here is that the years that are gonna follow sort of 2023 and 2024, we may not ultimately return to a period of low inflation and low rates, but debt issuance is likely to remain a very efficient method to refinance growth. Ultimately, that becomes very important in how we think about sort of the outlook, not just for this year, but over the medium-term period, in consideration.
Maybe the final point here is, you know, the global economy has really gone through many cyclical and structural shifts over time, and debt has remained a key method of financing that growth and innovation.
Okay. Thank you. Just one follow-up. Where are you with retention? I mean, there's a lot of talk of, you know, reinvesting to improve retention and things like that. And you guys really are in a, you know, very much a people business for a lot of it. Where are you with your retention metrics now? Are you comfortable that you will be, you know, deploying enough to retain the levels of employees or the quality of employees that you're looking for?
Yeah, Shlomo, you're right. People are absolutely critical to our business. It's what has gotten us through the pandemic so well. We have indeed made some investments in making sure that we retain our people. In general, I would say that, based on the kind of data that we have and kinda our ability to benchmark against financial services, we think we're either broadly in line or even slightly better in terms of overall employee retention than financial services more broadly. You know, it continues to be a competitive market, and we continue to make sure that we're making the right investments to, you know, not only retain the people we need but attract the people that we need as well.
Thank you.
Shlomo, one other thing to add to that, sorry, it's not all about compensation either. Compensation's important, but we hear from our employees all the time that several other aspects of working at Moody's, it's about, you know, working at a company that you feel has a real purpose and does something important in the world. It's about having, you know, the flexibility that you value. We did a recent employee survey, and our employees told us we're doing a pretty good job on workplace flexibility. We're gonna continue to make sure that we're focused not just on compensation, but on the whole kind of basket of things that contribute to a, you know, kind of a compelling value proposition for our employees.
Thank you. That does conclude the question and answer session. I'll now turn the conference back over to Mr. Rob Fauber for any additional or closing remarks.
Okay. Thanks everybody for joining today, and we look forward to speaking with you next quarter. Bye.
Thank you. This concludes Moody's Second Quarter 2022 earnings call. As a reminder, immediately following this call, the company will post the MIS revenue breakdown under the Investor Resources section of the Moody's IR homepage. Additionally, a replay of this call will be available after 4:00 P.M. Eastern time on Moody's IR website.