Good day, and welcome to the Magnolia Oil and Gas Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Release and Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brian Corales, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Eileen, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Magnolia Oil and Gas' 2nd quarter 2021 earnings conference call. Participating on the call today are Steve Chazen, Magnolia's Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer and Chris Stavros, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today's conference call contains certain projections and other forward looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in these statements.
Additional information on risk factors that could cause results to differ is available in the company's annual report on Form 10 ks filed with the SEC. A full Safe Harbor can be found on Slide 2 of the conference call slide presentation with the supplemental data on our website. You can download Magnolia's 2nd quarter 20 21 earnings press release as well as the conference call slides in the Investors section of the company's website at www. Magnoliaoilgas.com. I will now turn the call over to Mr.
Steve Chazen.
Thank you. Good morning and thank you for joining us today. My comments this morning will focus on our 1st partial semiannual dividend that we cleared yesterday and some thoughts around our differentiated dividend framework. I will also discuss how we plan to allocate our capital and free cash flow for the remainder of the year. Chris will then review our 2nd quarter results, provide some additional guidance before we take your questions.
Magnolia's business model and disciplined approach for capital investment has not changed since our inception almost exactly 3 years ago. Despite the volatility around product prices, we continue to consistently execute on our plan as demonstrated by the strength of our 2nd quarter operating and financial performance, which included record net income and earnings per share. While our plan has not changed, we believe that business has fundamentally improved resulting in strong productivity and efficiency in our Giddings asset. Another of our key corporate goals was to generate EBIT or equal to 50% or more of our realized BOE price. This is defined as accounting profits after all costs including DD and A before interest and taxes.
Our average realized price in the quarter was $42.42 per BOE and we had EBIT of $21.85 Strong margins are a direct result of our team's focus on cost control, safety, well productivity, and this is especially pleasing to me because it's always been a corporate goal to earn half of the product price. The quality of our assets in a business unburdened by large debt should allow for continued moderate production growth with high operating margins will generate significant free cash flow at much lower prices. We now believe this to be achieved by spending within 55% of our EBITDAX on drilling completing wells compared to spending within 60% previously. Our total shareholder return is allocated in the 2 main buckets, the largest being to improve per share metrics of the company by reducing our share count. In the first half of the year, we repurchased 7% of the total shares.
And assuming we repurchased 1% of the shares each of the next two quarters, it would provide investment with a 9% return before paying recently announced dividend. Our differentiated dividend framework is aligned with the principles of our business model and designed to reinforce our plan. We would not characterize our dividend as special nor is it a function of windfall product prices. Instead, our approach is meant to appeal to long term investors who seek dividend security and sustainability, moderate and regular dividend growth and dividend is paid out of actual earnings. We believe our framework provides for this rather than stretching for yield or trying to mimic an MLP or royalty trust.
Dividend announcement yesterday conveys our continued confidence in the business plan and the quality of our assets. The first interim semi annual dividend of $0.08 a share is payable next month is secure and sustainable at oil prices below $40 a barrel and natural gas and NGL prices around half their current levels. We plan to declare the remaining annual dividend next February with a release of our full year 2021 results. The second payment will be based on our longer term view of product prices or approximately $55 a barrel for oil as well as the prior year's results. Expect that each of these regular dividend payments should grow annually based on our ability to execute our business plan, which includes moderate production growth, the reduction of our outstanding shares.
While dividend will be paid out of real earnings, the total annual payment will not exceed 50% of the prior year's reported net income. While stock prices are often volatile and both behave unpredictability, we want the dividend to reflect the reality of the business. Our tendency to use this dividend framework to demonstrate the underlying results of our business and a stable product price environment. Including the dividend, this framework provides ample free cash flow to repurchase our shares as well as to pursue small bolt on oil and gas property acquisitions that are accretive to our stock and improve our per share metrics. The goal is to provide superior total shareholder return by improving the per share value of the enterprise, while providing a secure and growing dividend.
Our disciplined capital investment provided 4% sequential organic volume growth in the 2nd quarter, with most of our free cash flow allocated towards repurchasing our shares. During the first half of twenty twenty one, we generated $235,000,000 of free cash, so more than $200,000,000 reducing our share count by 17,600,000 shares or about 7% of total shares outstanding. This approach started allocating our capital and free cash flow and provided volume growth of 7% compared to the Q4 2020 level, while enhancing our per share metrics and leaving our cash position nearly unchanged at around $190,000,000 at midyear. We plan to continue to repurchase at least 1% of our outstanding shares each quarter. We added a second operating rig at the end of the Q2, which is currently drilling wells in Giddings Field.
Our plan is for this rig to drill wells in both the Karnes and Giddings areas, including some appraisal wells in Giddings. The other operated well will continue to drill multi well pads in their Giddings area. Our capital run rate is expected to increase in the back half of the year through the additional rig and activity, although our total capital will be far below our normal business model spending levels as percent of adjusted EBITDAX. A portion of our capital and activity in the back half of the year will be directed toward drilling completing some gassier wells in Karnes and Kidding's and the benefit of the recent strength in natural gas prices. Basically, this is a Karnes thing.
We had some ducks in Karnes that we're going to turn the wells on later in the year when gas prices were strong. We looked at the screen and we saw gas prices were already strong. We remain unhedged on oil and natural gas head we put in place a year ago has expired, so we fully benefit from higher prices. Finally, the interbreast operating and other agreements were terminated at the end of the quarter. Result of conclusion of the operating agreement, we expect realized G and A savings of approximately $0.60 a barrel going forward.
To summarize our consistent significant free cash flow generation and greater productivity in Giddings, we can do more with less, all while maintaining our low cost structure and strong balance sheet. Less production is needed to generate moderate growth resulting in more free cash, volumes to further enhance our business through share repurchases and small bolt on acquisitions. A small, a regular, secure and growing dividend is an outcome of this plan. The current environment for Magnolia presents significant opportunity set. We have strong cost management, low capital intensity and generates significant amounts of free cash flow.
Magnolia has very little debt and continues to build cash. The same time, the stock market, in my view, is not anywhere near intrinsic values for us and many others in our industry. We believe we have the opportunity over the next 18 months to make large purchases of stock. This confluence events might give us a chance to materially reduce our share count. This is usually difficult to achieve a material reduction in share count without changing debt levels will inevitably lead to higher returns on capital employed and faster growth in earnings, cash flow and free cash flow per share than we could have achieved without the buybacks.
We'll set a dividend rate at a secure level based on moderate long term prices. By dedicating the vast majority of our free cash flow, significant sensible share repurchase, future predictable and important dividend growth is highly likely without increasing financial risk. I'll turn the call over to Chris.
Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. As Steve mentioned, I plan to review some items from our 2nd quarter results and provide some guidance for the Q3 and remainder of the year before turning it over for questions. Starting with Slide 4 and the quarterly presentation, Magnolia delivered very strong Q2 2021 financial and operating results. The company generated total reported net income of $116,000,000 or $0.48 per diluted share. During the quarter, we had $19,200,000 of pre tax special charges, most of which was associated with termination of our operating services and other agreements with EnerVest.
After tax affecting these items, our total adjusted net income for the quarter was $135,000,000 or $0.56 per diluted share. Both reported and adjusted net income were quarterly records for Magnolia and were well ahead of consensus estimates. Net cash provided by operating activities was $188,000,000 during the Q2 and our fully diluted shares averaged $242,000,000 during the period. Our adjusted EBITDAX was $195,000,000 in the 2nd quarter with total capital of 50 $4,000,000 for drilling and completing wells. Total second quarter production grew 4% sequentially to 64.9 1,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day with both our Karnes and Giddings assets contributing to the increase and total oil production grew 11% sequentially to nearly 32,000 barrels per day.
The sequential improvement in our quarterly financial results benefited about equally from both the increase in product prices and our production growth. While oil prices have risen further into the current quarter, prices for natural gas and NGLs have been particularly strong. Looking at the quarterly cash flow waterfall chart on Slide 5, we started the 2nd quarter with $178,000,000 of cash. Cash flow from operations before changes in working capital was $175,000,000 during the quarter with working capital changes and some other items benefiting cash by $21,000,000 Our D and C capital spending was $54,000,000 in the 2nd quarter and we allocated $121,000,000 toward repurchasing our shares and reducing our fully diluted share count by 8,600,000 shares. We generated $134,000,000 of free cash flow in the second quarter and ended the period with $190,000,000 of cash on the sheet.
Slide 6 illustrates the progress of our share reduction efforts since the original share repurchase authorization was put in place in the Q3 2019. Since that time, we've reduced our total diluted share count by 29,100,000 shares or about 11% in under 2 years. For 2021 year to date, we have spent $209,000,000 toward reducing our fully diluted count by 17,600,000 shares. Our plan is to continue to repurchase at least 1% of our outstanding shares each quarter. We currently have 10,500,000 shares remaining under the current repurchase authorization.
Magnolia remains unburdened by large amounts of debt. Our $400,000,000 of gross debt is reflected in our senior notes, which do not mature until 2026, and we do not expect to issue any new debt. We have an undrawn $450,000,000 revolving credit facility, and our total liquidity of $640,000,000 including our $190,000,000 of cash is more than adequate to execute our strategy and business plan. Our strong balance sheet consistent free cash flow provides a strong element of security amidst product price volatility is also an advantage in allowing us to opportunistically repurchase our shares, pursue small bolt on accretive acquisitions and pay a sustainable and growing dividend. Our condensed balance sheet and liquidity as of June 30 are shown on Slide 7 and 8.
Turning to Slide 9 and looking at our unit costs and operating income margins. Our total adjusted cash operating costs including G and A were $11.18
per BOE in the Q2.
Including our DD and A rate of $7.33 per BOE, which is generally in line with our F and D costs, our operating income margin for the Q2 was $21.85 per BOE or 52 percent of our total revenue. As Steve referenced earlier, our business is fundamentally improved in large part due to the strong productivity and efficiencies of our Giddings asset. Our 2nd quarter production in Giddings grew 55% from last year's Q2 and with oil production growing 97% from the year ago period. Recent Giddings wells have averaged approximately $6,000,000 with continued efficiencies offsetting some of the modest inflation experienced in the field. Results of recent wells drilled as part of our early stage Giddings development continue to be representative of the strong improved compared to 2019.
While our current total production is similar to 2019 levels, Giddings now represents more than half of our overall volumes compared to 1 third in 2019. More importantly, our level of D and C spending this year is expected to decline to less than 40% of our adjusted EBITDAX compared to 60% in 2019, leading to higher amounts of free cash flow and a more profitable business. And our expectations are that we will have reduced our diluted share count by 11 percent over this period. All of this has been accomplished at product prices that are similar to 2019 levels. Turning to guidance for the remainder of 2021, we expect our full year capital to be well below spending rate of 55% of adjusted EBITDAX to generate moderate long term growth.
The addition of a second drilling rig in late June, our total E and C capital for the second half of the year is expected to be between $150,000,000 $175,000,000 2nd rig is currently drilling wells in the Giddings field and we ultimately plan to use this rig to drill wells in both the Karnes and Giddings assets, including some appraisal wells in Giddings. We expect a smaller portion of the production impact from the second rig to be seen later this year with most of the benefit not reflected until 2022. Our other rig will continue to drill multi well development pads in our Giddings area. Looking at the Q3 of this year 2021, we expect production to average approximately 67,000 barrels of oil equivalent a day, representing sequential increase of about 3 percent compared to the Q2. A portion of our capital and activity will be directed towards drilling and completing some gassier wells in both Karnes and Giddings in order to benefit from the recent strength in natural gas prices.
This includes the completion of several prolific natural gas wells in Karnes. As Steve mentioned, the natural gas hedge we put in place a year ago has ended and we're now completely unhedged for both oil and natural gas, allowing us to benefit from the recent strength in product prices. Well price differentials are anticipated to be approximately $3 a barrel discount to MEH during the Q3. The 3rd quarter fully diluted share count is expected to be approximately 237,000,000 shares and is expected to continue to decline further by year end due to our ongoing share reduction efforts. The EnerVest operating and other agreements were terminated at the end of the second quarter, resulting in several one time and non cash charges that I mentioned earlier.
As a result of the conclusion of the operating services agreement, the run rate for our cash G and A costs beginning in the 3rd quarter is expected to decline to approximately $2 a BOE compared to $2.60 per BOE during full year 2020 or in excess of 20%.
Finally, I want
to mention that Magnolia issued its 1st corporate sustainability report in the Q2. The report demonstrates Magnolia's commitment to sustainability, outlines our core values and objectives and addresses factors that are important to our investors and other stakeholders. A brief summary of this report is shown on Slide 11 and the full report is available on our website. To summarize, Magnolia's high quality assets and capital efficiency should continue to generate strong operating margins and sizable free cash flow, allowing us to execute our strategy and contribute to our total shareholder return proposition. We're now ready to take your questions.
Our first question today comes from Umang Choudhary with Goldman Sachs.
Hi, good morning and thank you for taking my questions.
Sure. Good morning, Umang.
Thank you. My first question is on cash returns and how you plan to deploy your free cash flow. You talked about increasing your dividend next year based on a $55 long term oil prices and capping it at 50% of earnings. I was wondering if you can help us frame how we should think about the excess free cash flow after you pay the dividend. How are you kind of comparing the opportunity to buy back shares versus investing towards further growth given the returns which is generating on organic operations is also very attractive at current commodity prices?
The business model really doesn't change. To constrain us, we use the 55% of drilling to keep us from trying to fluff it up or speed the drilling. It provides for reasonable mid single digit growth rate in the business and that's really our target. As I said in my remarks, I hope, the focus now, because we believe there'll be large amounts of our stock available for sale over the next couple of years, is on share repurchases. When you model share repurchases at a reasonable price into the model, it has a dramatic effect on our earnings, our cash flow per share and all those things.
Drilling more wells is really not in the cards except based on the 55%. So, if you think about the dividend this way, we've given you information of how much we could afford to pay at $40 oil. That's what this interim dividend does. That's information for you and we can say that we could very safely pay that times 2. So, that's $0.16 a year.
We're going to reprice the whole dividend package next in February. That's going to be a larger dividend than the 0.08 dollars for sure. We're going to reprice it based on our results this year. We're going to take this year's results, reprice it to the slower price because we believe that's a long term value, long term price. And so the dividend per se is much less than we give in theory for the pay.
But the share reduction will kind of build value in the stock. To be clear about it, we want the stock to go up and not from dividends, the dividend after we get through this period where we have this opportunity to buy shares, then we'll reevaluate the dividend plan. But right now, it's very rare to have an opportunity to buy so many shares and bring the capital structure to such that your return on capital employed has significantly enhanced all your share metrics and we haven't raised we haven't increased the risk in the company because the debt stays the same. It's a strategy to make the stock go up. A dividend 2%, 3%, whatever it is, the stock varies at every day every hour.
So the dividend is a placeholder for the future. And as we get through this period, we'll be able to pay a regular safe dividend, but a regular growing dividend. If you think about it, if we grow the production profitably at 5% or 6% a year and we buy in 4% of the stock each year, you could have sort of 10% area dividend growth. And we think for many investors, that's an attractive outcome, especially for me. So that's the story.
Got you. That's really helpful. Thank you. And I guess my next question is probably more on the operations side. Maybe you can talk a little bit more about your giddings program.
Any update around appraisal activity? Anything you've just seen recently from your well performance that would be helpful? Thank you.
We have 30.
We have over 30 wells in the core area at this point. And they're highly predictable. The newer wells look like the older ones except maybe a little oilier. There's nothing really new and some of them haven't been on long enough to sort of to measure everything, but we're highly confident we're getting great predictability, great outcomes. Of course, in this environment, everything is good.
But and the decline rate is low. The reason we can reduce it, the reason we when we started, we were a Karnes producer and the decline rate was real high. Here the decline rate is much less, so we're much less capital intensive. That's what's driving this whole thing. And there's nothing going on at Giddings that wasn't the same as last quarter and the quarter before.
We just have more and more wells. We've got a lot more to drill. It's a very positive story at this point.
Well, we tried to draw the comparison, Umang, between now and 2029. It's sort of indicative of what's happened over the last couple of years. It's much better and it's clear.
And it's much better than I thought it would be when we bought the Giddings asset. I would not have imagined this outcome. I think if I looked at my plan that we put together when we started, we're sort of in year 6 of the plan and this is 3 years it.
Those are helpful comments. And we are seeing the same thing in core area at our end when we do well results. Thank you so much for your comments. I appreciate it.
Sure. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Leo Mariani with KeyBanc.
Hey, guys. Wanted to stick with the operations here. I think you guys have clearly identified in the past that you've got a 70,000 core acreage position within a much larger footprint at Giddings. You talked about 30 wells in the core. I guess, do you feel that those 30 wells have sufficiently appraised that entire 70,000 acre sweet spot?
And I know you're going to do some further appraisal work this year with that second rig. So what's your thoughts on the potential of expanding that 70,000 acres late this year and into next year? And would that be a contiguous expansion or are you more looking at other sweet spots in the greater 430,000 acres?
The answer to your question is that we continue to step out and add. And that's simple as that. We have sort of a model if you want to think of it that way. We step out and add. Every time we get a well, we can add some more data.
We try different kinds of spacing, that sort of thing. I hate sports analogies. But if we want to go to baseball, which I think has 9 innings, right? Brian assured me that's right. We're sort of in the 2nd inning here.
And we have other areas we're looking at. We don't like to talk about them because there's still leasing and that sort of opportunities. And we want to retain those rather than tip somebody off as to what we're doing. The core area continues to grow and continues to have significant opportunities for more and the spacing is still a work in progress. When we talk about extensions or whatever, this is testing other areas to figure out, see if we can build the model in some other area.
We don't really know the answer to that at this point. That's why we do to drill the wells. You can always imagine an answer, but unfortunately, you have to drill a well to figure it out. And then what you find is the well may be good or bad or indifferent, but it gives you data, so you might have to drill 2 or 3 more wells to figure out if it's really true. So, we went to a gassier area a couple of quarters ago.
We think those are the gassy well makes 600 barrels a day oil, black oil. So, at some point, we might start developing that, but we try to keep our capital under control. This is a we're not trying to we're trying to maintain a mid single digit growth rate. We're not trying to burn all the money drilling wells. And we have other things to do.
We want to pay dividends, we want to buy in shares. All these things are important for a small company. A small company, the stock needs to go up. It's not an MLP. It's not a royalty trust.
You don't want to dump all the money out. The money in small companies made by the stock going up. And it's a different model than some large company. Just a different way of thinking about things is because we're small. Small.
However, we might near $1,000,000,000 in sales.
Okay. Very helpful for sure in terms of the way you guys are thinking about it. I wanted to get to a question on the 2 rig program. You guys you theoretically talked about kind of a 5% to 6% production growth longer term, Steve. But just looking at the data, you guys have grown more than that just running the 1 rig for the past several quarters.
I know there was some benefit of DUCs in there, but are you have any concern that kind of running 2 rigs continuously if you continue to see such strong well performance at Giddings kind of puts the growth a little bit into overdrive or are you kind of happy to grow a little bit more if the well results are outstanding over the next year or 2?
We'll take what we can get. But that's correct. I think we want we do want to spend maybe not 50, but we want to spend some money. The problem with running 1 rig is the error bar, because one rig the rigs delayed to 2 weeks for something and it makes extra noise. The other thing that's going on is that and the reason some of the numbers are a little different than we had hoped is that the non op activity, not in Giddings, but in Karnes has been less than we thought.
And so this gives us more control over the outcome of the second rig. I suppose if I wanted to manage the production better, I could shut it in the wells, but it doesn't seem like an all that good an idea. But it's possible if things go well, that the next year we could exceed the number.
Yes. That makes a lot of sense. And I guess just lastly, I just wanted to kind of clarify the mechanics of the growth and the base dividend versus the variable dividend. You certainly talked about kind of reassessing everything in February, but I just wanted to kind of make sure I understood. It sounds like there will be this semiannual base dividend that's sustainable at a much lower oil price, but perhaps let me just come full circle and talk about how the variable dividend payout would work.
They're not going to be a variable dividend.
Okay. So that's been kind of taken off the table. Okay.
Yes. I listened to all these other guys' calls and I was confused. And so I decided that we would run with like an industrial company. You have a very secure dividend and We give you defined numbers of how we computed it. And we know that there's room to grow that dividend, but not in a variable way, but in a way that's based on results.
And I'm trying to convey information to you about our business. Can't rely on the stock market to do that. So we're trying to convey information about how strong the business is at fairly low oil prices that we can afford to do this. That's the point of the dividend. And I like dividends too, my wife especially.
But that's really the point of this now. Now this will evolve over time. But a variable dividend, dividend investors care about 3 things. They care about that it's safe, that it's a balance sheet issue. They care about that it's paid out of earnings, not out of smoke, and they care that it grows.
That's what we're trying to deliver on this dividend, those three factors. It's safe, it's out of earnings and it grows. That's the plan over time. It's not complicated. It's what industrial companies do.
This isn't some scam to throw a bunch of money or to fool you, things are really good. We don't have any debt. That's the fundamental difference. We don't have to pay down debt. And so all the cash that would be used to pay interest and buy in debt is basically funneled to the shareholders either in share reduction or in dividend payments.
Over time, more will be shifted towards dividend, But fundamentally, that's the plan. And it's just like lots of people in the non oil and gas world do that. The trick, the opportunity for us is the opportunity in this period to make significant as a large company buys $1,000,000,000 of stock out of its $50,000,000,000 or $100,000,000,000 really doesn't change anything. For us, we're buying large quantities and it will change our earnings and all of our metrics without harming our financial stability. Financial stability is real important to me.
And that's it's deliberate I'm sorry, but it's deliberately different.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Our next question comes from Zach Parham with JPMorgan.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just a follow-up on Leo's question. You all are going to spend $80,000,000 to $90,000,000 a quarter on CapEx in the back half of the year running that 2 rig program. I know it's early, but as you look out, do you see Magnolia continuing to run that 2 rig program through 'twenty two?
And I guess just in general, how are you thinking about activity levels with the current 2022 strip near 65 a barrel?
We expect to run the 2 rig program next year. If you do the 55%, there's plenty of money to do that. We probably won't hit 55% if you'd run the numbers through. I'm very cautious about operating activities. I want them to be safe.
I want them to be efficient and I want to be focused and economical. And I'm always reticent about expanding the activities too quickly. But it's likely if the strip were right, in the unlikely event that it's right, I guess is the way to say it, that it will be well under 55%. But and that will provide opportunity for other things. But you should plan on that.
I think the question about what the growth will be next year sort of depends and depends on timing and that sort of thing, maybe depends on non op activity. But that's the we want a little more control than we have now, so we can forecast better. But I don't see any reason to expand the business next year. I sort of like where we're going now. I sort of like the growth that we're getting now.
You don't want to I like the low finding cost, candid. This is run as an economical business, not designed to do anything but generate decent returns and it's something medium cap or whatever it's called investor would like to own. And that's the idea. We're trying to appeal to that. And the reason that people want in these larger companies, they want higher dividends, it's to keep the money away from the management, unless they drill a bunch of stupid wells.
And so I'll take responsibility for not drilling the stupid
wells. Got it. That's helpful color. And then maybe just one quick one on the quarter. Can you talk a little bit about what your gas price realization this quarter?
You were at $3.28 which was well ahead of NYMEX.
No, it's just
When we divided that's what came out. But
it's looking obviously much better than now than it was in the 2nd quarter.
No, I mean, if NGL prices are really low. I mean, you got to remember, if you go into this quarter, except the Q3, these NGL prices are very attractive for us. We don't actually know. Nothing special.
Our next question comes from Charles Meade with Johnson Rice.
Good morning, Steve, to you and Chris and Brian.
Thank you.
Going back to your earlier comments, shutting in wells so that you don't exceed your growth target, that would really be a novel way to run an E and P company. I've heard that one before. Yes. But look, Steve, you mentioned in your prepared comments that you see a lot of stock for sale and that you could ramp up your buyback program past that 1%. So it's kind of a 2 part question there.
Are you are there specific blocks, specific hands you're talking about there? Or are you more do you more mean just the stock that's for sale every day with daily liquidity? And then the second question is, if you're successful with your share buyback program and as you so well pointed out, making the share make the stock price go up, at some point, it would it seems like that would naturally come to an end. And so how do you imagine that might play out?
We'll start with the first question answer the first one. We have a private equity owner, owns about 35% of the company. He used to own 50%. So, you see a lot in some of the larger companies, they have private equity people who they sold bought stuff from and they sort of dump the stock into the market to look at liquidity. But here, assuming over some period of time, I have no idea what they're going to do, those blocks will be for sale.
We bought last quarter 5,000,000 shares from them as a block and the prior quarter the same thing. So, they have a life. And instead of dumping it in the market, when they sell shares, we'll buy some of those shares so that everybody gains by his sale. So if he sells 7,000,000 shares into the market, we might buy another 5,000,000 shares. So everybody, but our existing shareholders gain because the share count goes down.
And so unlike most people, when the stock is when the private equity guy sells the stock, they just dump it. And what we're doing is we're absorbing some of that. And we don't have any idea when or if or whatever, you don't understand, have any inside information. But given the life of the fund and the recent past, you would expect that some stock is going to show up over time and we could actually go to them if we wanted and maybe and buy some stock. But we prefer to do it in part of an offering so that we don't pay too much.
Got it. Yes. At some point, this comes to end, that's right.
But And we're set up.
We wouldn't carry the almost 200 $1,000,000 of cash. We don't need $200,000,000 in cash. We do it in case the need arises. So, out 2 or 3 years, I don't know, you'll shift more towards a dividend model. It's very difficult in buying shares in the market to assemble large quantities of shares.
It may seem like it's a lot of volume, but it's really, in fact, very unique opportunity over the next couple of years to really get the business. So, the return on capital employed is significantly improved and we're tighter, but we haven't raised the risk because normally people don't the larger companies don't want to involve with buying in these shares because it increases their apparent risk that they got a lot of debt. We don't have that issue. So I really think that it's just different because of the way we were set up. Always better to be lucky than good, I think.
You're right. You painted that picture well. Thank you for that. And then one question about the Karnes DUCs and specifically the gassy Karnes wells. I regard that as more of your kind of high quality or high rate oil area.
So what am I missing that you guys have these?
It's a little off the these aren't gas wells. These are Haynesville wells. These are just a little gassier than the normal. Okay. All we're trying to tell you, maybe inelegantly, is that should expect to see the gas percentage be a little higher next quarter than it's been this quarter.
We probably did it in there, Gala. We tried to make an explanation for it and we just should have told you it was going to be and not explain it. Well, message received. Thank you, Steve. It's all Brian's fault.
Again.
We'll have to have a taco for lunch to compensate.
Our next question will come from Neal Dingmann with Truist.
Hey guys, thanks for getting me in ahead of Carlos' lunch. I know it starts early.
You never want to catch between him and lunch.
Well said.
Said. And he doesn't share.
My first question, just you mentioned in prepared remarks about the plan to go to a little bit more gassier wells, obviously, given the gas prices. Was this shift always in your plan? I know some folks had mentioned there's some out there saying, well, these guys are gassier. I don't believe that to be the case. Could you just talk about that plan, Steve?
And would you shift back to more oily later in the year or next year?
There really isn't much shift. This is a tweak. We're drilling oil wells principally. We have a gassier area in Giddings that we talked about a couple of quarters ago, I think. We're not planning anything there.
But at $4 I certainly attempted because I've been a gas bearer for maybe 40 years. So, I'm tempted, but not that much. So, we're an oil producer. We produce gas and NGLs. That's what we'll be.
You shouldn't overemphasize the shift. So, all we're trying to say is it will be a little gassier because of these ducts and these wells, but we're not going to put a gas rig to work at this time. I don't trust oil drillers and I trust gas drillers less to control the
market. So Chris, I mean nothing different on the guidance there?
No. No. Chris, it's not I think as you said,
it's not a shift.
Not a shift, this is a tweak. Yes. It's all 1 or 2 part tweak. More timing. Yes, more timing because we were going to put the wells on it in the winter essentially.
Okay. Okay. Well said. And then my second is just on Karnes, how many just ballpark there, so many locations you have left there? And are there opportunities to do some small bolt ons that would continue to boost?
I know what, a year ago when Giddings wasn't coming on as strong, you were continually boosting some locations there, just your thoughts around how many you have now and if you can kind of keep boosting that in the coming months?
No, I think we keep a 3 to 5 year inventory and we sort of keep it there. And we look for small bolt ons. There's a lot of activity there from sort of private equity. And so and we're not pressed in Karnes, to be honest. We saw you in the financial statements, a small amount of money.
Those are basically buying interests in varying wells and stuff that we have mostly in Giddings. I'm very focused on capital efficiency and not spending if I got a well over here and it doesn't decline as much, I have less of a bogey to keep the production growing. So I'm not interested in emphasizing the treadmill.
No, understood. And then just I guess just the combination of the 2, I guess, your oil progression in the next I mean that late this year and the next year is going to be the same as it's always been that, right?
Yes, it's going to be similar. And also in Karnes, you've got a lot of non op potential opportunity. That's the only place where and we don't have any control really over that. We don't know what they're going to do. Some of our forecasting issue is we can't predict it and it makes a little noise in the numbers.
It doesn't make the locations go away, obviously, and we don't know what the thought process is of a lot of these people, if there is any.
Very good. Thanks, guys. Thanks.
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