Earnings Call: Q3 2018

Nov 6, 2018

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Mosaic Company's 3rd Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants Your host for today's call is Laura Gagnon, Vice President, Investor Relations of the Mosaic Company. Ms. Gagnon, you may begin. Thank you, and welcome to our third quarter 2018 earnings call. Presenting today will be Joc O'Rourke, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Clint Freeland, Senior Vice President And Chief Financial Officer. We also have other members of the senior leadership team available to answer your questions after our prepared remarks. The presentation slides we are using during the call are available on our website at mosaicco.com. We will be making forward looking statements during this conference call. The statements include, but are not limited to, statements about future financial and operating results. They are based on management's beliefs and expectations as of today's date and are subject to significant Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward looking statements are included in our press release issued yesterday, and in our reports filed with the Securities And Exchange Commission. We will also be presenting certain non GAAP financial measures, Our first quarter press release and performance data attached as exhibits to yesterday's Form 8 K filing also contain important information on these non GAAP measures. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Jack. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Mosaic's momentum continued to build in the third quarter. Our results reflect improved market conditions as well as the benefits of the many moves we've made to strengthen the company. Our key points today are first, Mosaic has made tremendous progress. We've transformed our businesses and created significant operational leverage. 2nd, global potash and phosphate market fundamentals are improving. Demand growth remains strong, while supply is materializing slowly. And third, as a result of our increased operational leverage, and improving to generate significant cash and drive strong shareholder returns. For the quarter, Mosaic's net earnings compared with $227,000,000 a year ago. Year to date net earnings were $358,000,000 we delivered of 78 to position the company for success. We idled our Plant City Phosphate operations and indicated we would focus on increasing the efficiency and recovery rates at our remaining phosphate plants. We announced significant increases in our expected transformational targets related to Mosaic Fertilizantes, and we announced we have accelerated our progress and created significant earnings leverage as today's results clearly indicate. We reported year to date adjusted EBITDA of $1,400,000,000. We increased our 2018 synergy expectation from Mosaic Fertilizante and we announced we've reached our through cycle debt to EBITDA targets. Overall, good market conditions and robust performance across our three business units are leading to better 2018 results than our initial expectations. Today, we increased our guidance for 2018 annual adjusted EBITDA to a range of $1,900,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 and our adjusted earnings per share our business in South America. Year to date, in 2018, Mosaic Fertilizantes has delivered adjusted EBITDA $277,000,000 compared with a pro form a EBITDA of $50,000,000 a year ago. The performance of that business has been helped by excellent Brazilian agricultural market conditions and a weaker Brazilian real. But the key driver of and we now expect to reach $140,000,000 to $160,000,000 in net savings We also expect to reach The transformation of the business and the benefits of our upstream downstream integration are easily visible, both on the ground in Brazil and in our results. Across our plants and minds, employees are energized, and they are bringing innovative ideas to improve our operating efficiency. When we announced the transaction, we expected it to be accretive to earnings. Year to date, the acquired business has added $0.11 per share. Inclusive of the impact of issuing but exclusive of the 8,000,000 reserve in the third quarter for the potential of paying out on the contingent portion of the purchase price. Moving on to the phosphate market, which remains relatively tight, prices held steady following a $75 increase over the past year. Margins are under a bit of pressure with raw material prices rising. Still, fundamentals are very strong In fact, our outlook for phosphates has continued to improve over the past several quarters. Global demand continues to grow and our market analysis team expects another record year for shipments in 2019. Several actions have tightened supply including the idling of our Plant City facility, slower than expected ramp ups of new facilities and reduced Chinese export. In 2019, we expect global demand growth to outpace supply additions, requiring higher global operating rates and providing support to prices and margins. The market is feeling a temporary impact from the wet fall in North America The expectation of an early harvest and in turn, an early fall fertilizer application season has not come to fruition. Shifts in agricultural seasons can delay or accelerate demand, but they rarely affect the full year's sales. It is important to remember that this business is seasonal as well as cyclical. This expected seasonality is reflected in our guidance for the quarter and for the full year The changes we've made in business unit, which has produced $653,000,000 of year to date adjusted EBITDA, up almost twofold compared to the same period a year ago. We have made extensive structural permanent changes to the way we operate, resulting in a much more efficient business for the long term. We said we would run our remaining plants harder and we have with operating rates up 7% year over year. Let's move on to potash. The potash market is tighter today than it has been in years and prices are moving up as a result In addition, the discount we saw recently and the slow ramp up of new supply combined with growing global demand have driven potash prices higher by approximately $60 per ton over the prior year. The potash business unit began its transformation before the other segments as its consistently low cost base demonstrates The teams at our 3 world class potash mines are executing at a very high level with strong day to day production and like our other business units, excellent safety and environmental performance. At the same time, the ramp up of Esterhazy K3 continues according to our expectations. With an efficient new mine and phasing from the K3 shaft to the K2 mill this summer. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Clint Freeland to discuss current period results and near term guidance. Clint? Thanks, Joc. During the third quarter, Mosaic generated $0.64 in fully diluted earnings per share, $7.5 per share after adjusting for notable items and adjusted EBITDA of $606,000,000. As noted earlier, these strong results were driven by the combination of continued progress on our cost structure and business transformation initiatives across the company and improved market conditions. With these strong quarterly earnings came strong cash flow from operations at $524,000,000, As you can see, Mosaic ended the 3rd quarter with just over $1,000,000,000 in unrestricted cash, roughly in line with the balance at the end of the 2nd quarter despite paying down $400,000,000 in debt during the quarter, investing $241,000,000 in CapEx and experiencing a $200,000,000 reversal in customer prepayments in Brazil. Based on the strong financial performance to date and our outlook for the company to generate adjusted EBITDA of $1,900,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 and adjusted earnings per share of $1.80 to $2. In addition to strong year to date results, our guidance reflects continued strength into the fourth quarter, albeit with normal seasonality The accelerated realization of synergies in Brazil was outlined earlier and a foreign exchange rate of roughly 3.7 BRL to the U. S. Dollar. The primary risk in our 4th quarter outlook is currency related given the recent volatility of certain currencies, particularly the Brazilian real. That said, as always, we continue to monitor grain and oilseed prices and international trade developments and any impact that they may have on finished fertilizer markets Mosaic's substantial cash generation over the course of this year has allowed us to pay While our debt metrics are now and a necessity for financial strength and stability through all parts of the cycle. For example, a $20 per ton change in product pricing can move adjusted EBITDA by $340,000,000 and net debt to EBITDA by 0.4 turns. As such, we intend to continue evaluating whether further debt reduction overtime as part of a balanced capital allocation program is appropriate. With that said, our capital We will continue to invest in balance sheet management. Beyond that, we allocate capital to the highest risk adjusted return opportunities available to the company while also keeping in mind that a regular return of capital to shareholders is a key element to a balanced and efficient capital allocation program. With that, I'll turn it back Of course, there are many factors we keep an eye on. At the moment, we're monitoring the impacts of the recent election in Brazil, and the strengthening Brazilian reais as well as Chinese phosphate export volumes. But the cyclical trend for industry is clearly up. And Mosaic has earned a very strong position from which to outperform. We have created a highly efficient low cost franchise and we are confident that we have Now, I will Your first question comes from Thank you. This is Ian Bennett on for Steve. The modern JV that you have is not really showing up in equity earnings right now. It seems like it's just a small loss. Could you talk a little bit about what your expectation is for operating that facility in terms of when it would hit full production rates and when it would contribute to Mosaic's equity earnings? Okay. Thank you, Ian. Welcome. If I'm looking at Moden and our involvement in Moden, I would say, look, our expectations for Moden was that over the long term, this would be involvement in 1 of the largest lowest cost, phosphate developments in the world. As such, it was not meant to be an early quick return. And as you know, it's a very large complicated project. And with those, we expect, at least, it will take time for that to ramp up. And so our expectations, and I think you really need to go to Moden to see the official expectations of their ramp up, But as we come to full production, that will be a very low cost producer, and we should start to see earnings from it. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Wong Hi, good morning. Thanks for having me on the call. So I was on the K3 mine, can you just maybe provide a little bit more updates there when you expect it to be fully up and running. What that does for your brine costs? And maybe just help clarify the conveyor system. From K3 to K1, K2? What's that capacity? I mean, within the near term and over the longer term? Thank you. Sure. Good morning, Andrew. So the K3, in terms of timing, we are on the same schedule we've been on for. Some time now, which was to integrate K3 and startup K3 and slowly ramp it up to completely take over from K1 and K2 in that 2023 to 2025 timeframe. What is happening today is, as we mentioned earlier, we have just connected the conveyor from K3 to K2. That will allow the startup of commercial production and ramping up of the incremental 1,000,000 tons that would go into the K2 and K1 Mills. Each of those conveyors will be capable of approximately let's say 3,000,000 tons of finished product or approximately 9,000,000 tons of ore So what that allows us to do is, over time, completely reproduce the production from K1 and K2 from K3. Once that is complete, we will decommission K1 and K2, which will eliminate all brine costs. Your next question comes from the line of Joel Jackson of BMO Capital Markets. Hi, this is Robin on for Joel. Thanks for taking my question. Can you walk us through the cadence of the guidance reduction for the phosphate margins? In terms of both phosphate and feedstock prices? And how do you expect margins to fare in Q1 'nineteen? And if can into the rest of the year? Thanks. Sorry, Robin, could you repeat the start of that question? You're it was a little unclear on the call. Yes, sorry. So if you can just walk us through more the cadence of the $10, about $10 per ton gross margin decline in the phosphate business in terms of both phosphate pricing and feedstock prices in Q4? And just how you expect that margin to fare in Q1? Sure. Okay. Great. What I'll do here, Robin, is I will hand this to Corinne. But as we mentioned in our prepared remarks, there is some margin pressure on, which is normal seasonality at the end of the year and mostly due more than price due to raw material tightness. One thing I will say though on this is, although the margins do tighten, we end up having a small competitive advantage at these prices of ammonia and beyond because most of our ammonia is based on production costing. So that actually helps us against the competitive market. In terms of the Q1 outlook, let me ask her in and Mike or Mike to give a few comments. Sure. Thanks, Josh. We are seeing a little bit of seasonal price pressure on the margin. This is pretty normal factor. We have had a late start to the fall season. And although it's been late now that things have got moving, we're seeing very big volume movements. And so some of the nervousness in the market that happens at this pressure is a little bit of price compression only in the North American market, which was at a significant premium to the other global markets, as well as a little bit of raw material, price increase. The other thing I would say about these nor the seasonal dip that we see for the winter fill time period is that we virtually always see that recover as we get into those spring seasons. So it's a very temporary seasonal setback. Mike, do you have anything you want to add? No, the only thing I would add is if you look at the seasonal pattern, I mean, margins in Q4 have dropped in 5 over the last 5 years. And they've rebounded in 4 the last 5 years by more than the seasonal drop in the fourth quarter. So yes, I would term this just a normal seasonal adjustment in margins. Mike, do you want to just give a little color on the market going forward in through Q1 and beyond in terms of the tightness of the phosphate market. Yes. If you look at our supply and demand for 2019. We see decent growth start on the demand side. We're looking at about 1.8 percent or 1,200,000 metric tons of additional demand in 2019. And that should start, I think, in a normal seasonal way, as far as positioning for the Southern Hemisphere crop and the Northern Hemisphere crop. And what's interesting, if you look on the supply side, we see several puts and takes there. We expect that On the negative side, we're seeing a couple of shutdowns in the U. S. Are in North America with the Redwater plant and the Geismar plant. We are seeing some incremental capacity come on in terms of a continued ramp up of the modern joint venture. The shore phosphate hub number 4, as well as some smaller plants coming on stream in Turkey and Egypt. We've put all that together. And when you add up the changes in demand versus the changes in supply, we still come up with roughly a balance not taking into account any changes in China. And our assessment is that we could see a 0.5000000 to 1,000,000 ton or more decline in Chinese exports. So what we see is another period, much like this year, where the phosphate market remains in deficit. And what we're saying there is that the world doesn't run out of phosphate, but you see pipelines get drawn down you maybe see a little bit of demand curbed on the edges in some markets. And you do see existing producers probably squeezing out a few more tons to reach an equilibrium in the market. Your next question comes from the line of Don Carson pay down target? Okay. Could you kind of get a little bit lower on your priorities there? There? Sure. Thanks, Jake. Well, I'm going to talk a little bit and maybe hand this over to Clint to talk talk some more and give us some more color. But to summarize, with the impact of our business improvements, Obviously, the impact of our Brazil acquisition and improved market conditions, this year, we've been able to generate approximately $1,200,000,000 of operating cash flow, which really highlights just the kind of earning power we've created in this business. And this, as you mentioned, has allowed us to pay down the $700,000,000 of term loans well ahead of our target. And matter of fact, over 2 years ahead of our schedule. So this has put us in a position to really review our overall capital allocation philosophy and targets. So let me hand it over to Clint just to give a little more color on how we've been thinking about our capital philosophy going forward. So I think when it comes to allocating capital, as we've talked about before, our first priority is ensuring that the company has a really solid financial and operational foundation, making sure that the company's leverage profile and liquidity position is where it should be to remain strong and and flexible through the cycle. I think it's also important to invest appropriately to maintain the safe and efficient operation of our core assets And now beyond that, I would look to and I think we look to allocate capital to the highest risk adjusted return opportunities available to us. We also pay a common dividend on our stock. And while it's fairly modest at this point, we do think it's an important part of a balance allocation program and we'll continue to evaluate what that payout looks like over time. I think going forward, when we expect earnings and cash flow to be strong, I would expect to see a balanced capital allocation program where we continue to strengthen the balance sheet, invest to grow the business and provide a regular return of capital to our shareholders. I think that's how we tend to think about capital allocation and try to prioritize our program. Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Zekauskas. Thanks very much. Two questions. Why do you think Chinese phosphate exports will decrease another 500,000 tons next year? That is what's behind it. And in terms of your cash flows, your receivables jumped up a couple of $100,000,000 sequentially. So did your payables? What's behind that? And how did the $200,000,000 reversal of Brazilian prepayments flow through Was that a benefit or not a benefit? What line did that touch? Sorry, Jeff, got that, Mike. First of all, let's talk about Chinese exports and what we think of Chinese exports. And I'm going to leave this to Corinne to really talk about, but at a high level, we do see active things by the Chinese government to reduce both water and air pollution, and particularly to produce pollution along the Yangtze river. And those are now starting to take effect, and they're increasing the cost to produce phosphates in China. But also reducing the overall availability of Chinese phosphate. So with that, let me hand that one to Corinne and I will come back the cash flow question. Thanks, Joc. We are seeing a decrease in Chinese exports. While we've seen a small increase, year to date, January through September in those DAP exports, the MAPX ports are off very significantly, about 23%. And that really is a result of what Joc was talking about with the environmental pressures happening on producers. There are a number of things happening in the environmental area. And there that's what we've been talking about for a while on Chinese exports. The first is that there are taxes that have been levied against the producers that are adding $10 to $15 a ton in their operating costs, because they to pay tax against the environmental pollution. The second thing that's happening is higher operating costs. So there is a significant reduction in rock mining because the government has disallowed mining in some environmentally sensitive areas. And so the, Chinese national Bureau of Statistics reports that phosphate rock lining is down 30% through September. So you have Producers that used to be integrated with the rock mines are now non integrated producers having to purchase rock from others and rock prices are up significantly. We're also starting to see the start of rock imports into China indicating a shortage of that raw material And then lastly, I would say, you know, there's significant capital costs at risk here as well. You've got, plants that are with in the one mile region of the Yangtze River are being forced to relocate and some that are a little farther out from one mile are being told that they have significant capital they have to spend to manage our gypsum differently and handle other environmental solutions differently. And so we believe in the timing on those changes in those plant relocations is by the end of 2019 and then some by the end of 2020 for the capital investments. So we really believe that there will be a watershed year here in 2019, 2020 on the environmental impacts affecting these Chinese producers and we expect exports will be down. Again, we're carefully watching these exports. And if you take a rolling 12 month look at exports, they are down about 11%. Mike, anything you want to add? Yes, just I'd highlight that the rolling 12 month total on September 30th was down, I think, 1,170,000 tons from September 30, 2017. So there has been a substantial decrease. If there are other questions later on, maybe we can come back and talk about a specific example. Sure. Good, Jeff. Well, I'm going to leave that one there. Obviously, the bottom line is, what we're seeing is we're seeing stuff on the ground. And these higher price are driving probably some higher utilization in in plants that may not necessarily have otherwise been running at this time. Now we're going to move on to the question. I'm just going to rephrase this a little bit to make sure I've got it right, but if I heard you correctly, cash flow from receivables is actually up by 2 months this year. And you're asking us to clarify what is the impact of the Brazil prepayments on our cash position? I'm going to hand that straight over to Clint who I think has a pretty good understanding of what you're trying to get. Yes, thanks, Jacques. So I'll start with the Brazilian prepayments, those prepayments at the end of the second quarter were about $500,000,000 in cash. And where you see that on the balance sheet is in the cash balance and in our payables. And when that reverses, what you have is it almost gets transferred from the balance sheet goes to the income statement where that $200,000,000 reduction in prepayments comes out of the cash balance and then flows through your P and L. And then to the extent that you have margin on those sales, which obviously you do, that would then come back through the cash flow statement onto your balance sheet. And so net net, you'll have a reduction in overall cash balance for those prepayments, but not the full 200 because you'll end up with the margin on your balance sheet. I think the other part of your question was around receivable and payable balances. And one of the things that I would, I assume that you're looking at our balance sheet recall that we closed on our acquisition on, I believe, January 8th. And so the effect of the acquisition and bringing working capital balances onto the balance sheet is part of that delta. As you look at the quarter in particular, I would say that, from a receivable standpoint, we had pretty high sales in September in North America in particular, And so that would have been booked into receivables that should again turn in the fourth quarter. So that would be the story around receivables. I think payables, nothing really out of the ordinary there. I think it's just a matter of timing of various accruals and other things throughout the year. So I would say nothing of particular note there. Your next question comes from the line Yes, it's Oliver Roan for Ben. Thanks for taking my question. So looking at your phosphate shipment outlook on Slide 18, you have a meaningful increase in to India in 2019. Do you not expect any demand destruction from India's rupee depreciating rising forecasted prices and the higher MRPs, which are all impacting affordability. Maybe to put that another way, if the currency were to revert and or the MRPs dropped. Would there be further upside to your demand estimate for India? Okay. Thanks, Oliver. I'm going to mostly hand this to Quran, but let me let me make just a general statement and India probably is the most sensitive to this. But in any situation, and next year, I believe is a situation where we're going to be somewhat supply constrained in terms of growth. I think then at some point you do have to, you do have to ration ultimate supply. And so the least, affordable markets will have to ration their growth. And I think that is something that could happen depending on price movements in India, but it will only be because of those price movements. So there's obviously some sense activity to both currency and prices in a market where their product is not sold on the international market, but sold at control price in country. Corinne, do you want to talk about that a little bit, please? Sure. I think there's a couple of things that we're watching very closely and and we have been looking to see if there's any evidence of demand destruction. And and we aren't seeing it yet today. It is sensitive to the currency changes. All of those seem to have stabilized. And they have adjusted their MRPs several times throughout the year. And at each level, we're continuing to see farmer purchasing. And so As of today, it looks like we are continuing to not we're not seeing demand destruction. We're continuing to see strong demand for phosphate. We also have an in the 2019 shipments because you've seen a relatively significant reduction in boosters. And that needs to be made up with some import volume. Your next question comes from the line of Alex Falcone. Hi, good morning. My questions are regarding Brazil. What made you increase the targets and synergy there? And you said that you're monitoring the new government. There's a massive shift in the currency from $4.50 to $3.70 now. Just want to understand the impacts of that going forward for you and if you didn't I know you guys have a very complex, hedging policy and what you're exposed Were you long the currency there or short the currency there? Just wanted to understand what's going to, that effect is going to have going forward. Thank you. Okay, Alex, thank you. So, let me let me hit this in order if I've got it. There's sort of 3 aspects here. I just want to hit first of all, talk about the election of Mr. Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro ran on a pro business, pro agricultural campaign. In fact, Bolsonaro was officially endorsed by the agricultural parliamentary group during the election. So that is a positive from an agricultural perspective. However, in Brazil to make things happen, you really have to build coalitions. So it's a little early to see. The one thing I will say, however, though, is his first appointees, including his nominee for Justice Minister Sergio Moro and his nominee for Finance Minister Paolo Geddes, I have both been very well received, and I believe those bode well for his success, which we look forward to. The second question you asked was about the synergies. And what I would say there is if we what we had was a Brazil team that really took this on and has done a very good job of going after synergies and improvement, which has put us in a position to achieve more than the we originally thought we'd achieve this year. Matter of fact, our 140 to 160, but also puts us ahead of schedule to achieve our total $275,000,000 of synergies we ultimately expect to achieve from that business. In terms of the currency and the hedging, I really think there's enough detail there that I should hand that over to Clint to talk a little bit about our strategy. Yes, hi. Thanks, Chuck. So I think from a currency hedging standpoint, we typically hedge on a rolling 3 month basis to the extent that we are, long the BRL. And so when you have at least short term volatility in the BRL, we should generally be hedged against that. Longer term, we do also hedge against some of our BRL expenses. If you recall, a lot of our revenues there are dollar based and our expenses are BRL based. And so what we try to do is to have, again, kind of a rolling program over time, that at least allows us to navigate some of the shorter term volatility, but think longer term, you are a little more subject to the currency fluctuations that you see again over time. Thanks, Glenn. Your next question comes from the line of Chris Parkinson. This is Graham Wells on for Chris. I was just wondering about the volume guidance on both kind of the phosphate and the potash side. Around the phosphate side, it looks like you took it down a little bit. And I think at the beginning of the call, you spoke about some seasonal factors particularly in North America maybe influencing that. I was if you could give any color on Centrals, etcetera. And then on the potash side, a similar question where your volumes appear to be quite strong. I'm just curious where you're seeing kind of most of that strength heading into 4Q. Okay. Thank you, Graham. I'm going to hand this over to Corinne, but let me start with the volume guidance for potash. Clearly, with the strength and the tightness of the potash market globally, we're seeing good international demand right now, which is more than offset the slight seasonal weakness you might have expected at the end of the normal North American season In terms of phosphate guidance, the volume drop there is normal seasonality that's probably driven mostly by the completion of the biggest season in Brazil and the end of the North American fall application season. Corinne, do you want to make a few comments? Yes, not a lot to add there, Jack. I completely agree on the potash side. We have big shipments going on. And good volume expected in the fourth quarter. The only limitation really is going to be just getting all of those to get that volume moved and, and, the phosphate guidance issue is largely that winter fill season do we end the fall season and the peak fall season with a strong winter fill program that moves into December, or does it really move into that January time? Period. And we're forecasting a normal amount of winter fill activity for December rather than last year was an exceptionally large winter fill early in December. Thanks, Craig. Your next question comes from the line of Jonas Oxgaard. Hi, good morning guys. I'm trying to make sense of your Q4 guidance. Your, say, your phosphate guidance is down, but your potash guidance is up, and then your volatility center is down. If I tally them all up, end up with about a $0.10 reduction, which is usually both what you usually get in Q4. And yet your implied guidance for EPS in Q4 is minus 20 or so. Am I missing something or are you being conservative or? Sorry, Jonas. We're looking at each other to try and understand if we can, We don't actually as you know, we don't actually give EPS guidance on a division by division thing. I'm not sure I know how to answer that, but I'm going to hand it to Clint to see what he can. I would maybe suggest that we take it offline and provide you some clarity. I think we're having a little, somewhat of a challenge kind of understanding and answering question right now, but I think we can follow-up with you if that's okay. Your next question comes from the line of Adam Samuelson Yes, thanks. Good morning, everyone. A lot of grounds covered. Just on the potash side, you're your guidance for next year on shipments. Can you talk about your supply outlook? What's the assumption of incremental capacity coming from K and S from EuroChem Closures in the rest of the world. And is there any assumption or early kind of view that Canadian production ex K and S would be up in any material amount in 2019? Thank you. Okay. Thanks, Adam. Sure. We'll give you I'll get Mike to give you an overall look at the S and D. The one thing you just asked that I would like to highlight, I think our view is over the next five is one of the things that will happen is the input of the North American suppliers ex K pluses will actually increase as the other supply is used up and the market gets tighter. Really, the only excess capacity out the utilization rate by those 2 might well increase in the next few years. Mike, do you want to just give a quick highlight of the S and D? Sure. We actually published this in the non deal roadshow report that is on the website. There's detail in terms of our changes in the S and D. And in terms of let me just talk a little bit about 2008 team first and how that carries over. But, when we look at, there's been a series of either call it supply disruptions or supply changes that have probably taken a good 500,000 tons out of the market. So As you know, the ICL closed their Bolby Mine midyear. SQM is maximizing the amount of lithium they produce versus potassium chloride, the Cable SaaS had production problems that it's we're a complex with low water levels in adjoining rivers and so forth. So you add that up as about 500,000 tons of lost production next year. When we look at this, K plus S is going to close their Sigma shell mine, which is probably 450,000 tons. The Bolby mine produced half this year. So there'll be another half of a year loss there. So when we add up one point 2 or 1,100,000 tons of demand at about 500,000 tons. And again, as we said for phosphate, we're not expecting the world to run out of potash anytime soon. But we do think that implies that pipeline inventories worldwide get drawn down to very low levels, and that prices remain elevated enough to bring supply and demand into equilibrium. Your next question comes from the line of Vincent Andrews. Hi, this is Neil calling in for Vincent. Couple of questions on Mosaic Pertilizantes. You accelerated the 2018 synergy capture, but it seems that the gross margin per ton for the segment is being guided down a bit sequentially to $40 per metric ton at the midpoint versus $42 at 3Q. So what is driving that And then second, total synergies were kept flat at $275,000,000. Is there still an opportunity for additional upside to that number? Okay, Neil. Thanks. Well, 1st of all, let me talk about the, the Fertilizantes margin for the fourth quarter. That is almost exclusively driven by change of FX. There has been a strengthening of the Brazilian real particularly after the election of Bolsonaro and whether that holds or not, but it has given us a short term expectation of a stronger re eye there. In terms of the synergies, we made a conscious decision not to increase synergies beyond $275,000,000. Year, we said $275,000,000 was the amount we expected to gain by the combination of the two businesses. We fully expect that we will set goals for business improvement beyond that, but we do not believe they are necessarily something that we should call synergies after the original combination of those 2 businesses. So for that reason, we have looked at this as being a milestone that we're going to leave as it is. Your next question comes from the line of John Roberts. Thank you. In Brazil, does the increase in acreage and the shift to soy present any logistical challenges for you to meet demand? Do you have any constraints down there in Brazil given the shift going on? Thanks, John. Look, one of the huge advantages we have in Brazil is our distribution business is well positioned in all of the major agricultural areas of the country. And And when we combine that with a production business that is right there as well in the main growing eight regions, we think we are actually the best positioned to serve, the growing soybean market in Brazil And whether it's soybeans, corn or coffee, sugarcane, We believe our distribution business and our new production business are well positioned to serve those. Your next question comes from And your line is open, P. J. Hello. Can you hear me? Sorry. Good morning. Can you talk about Plant City operations? Is it safe to assume that those that plant is down and probably won't come back again. And then secondly, what is your demand expectations for North America given record crop this year, which means record nutrient removal from the ground. And also the shift from soy to corn that should add some demand for fertilizers here in North America? Thank you. Well, let me talk about Plant City. At this stage on Plant City, sorry, thanks P. J. Let me start with Plant City, but Plant City, we're gathering in information and we're in active discussions with both the federal and state regulators right now. And we will be in a position before year end to make a decision on Plant City going forward and that's consistent with where we've been before. We're really not able to talk about that until those decisions are fully vetted and made. In terms of North American demand, I think the simple answer, and Karen and I were just on a North American customer tour a couple of weeks ago. And what I would say there is you have it absolutely right. The record crops are removing more and more fertilizer from the ground, and that is meaning that there is an increasing need to replace that fertilizer. So while we don't expect huge growth rates in North America, we do see that market as solid and now as the crops continue to grow, we expect a good demand. The other aspect of it is we saw in this marketing trip was The move towards precision agriculture rather than hurting the demand for fertilizer is probably helping the demand for fertilizer because people are putting the right amount of crop nutrients in the right places And that is really helping both the demand and the usage of that fertilizer. Corinne, do you want to touch on anything else? Sure. The only thing I would add, so we've got our forecasted shipments for North America for phosphate up for 2018 at about $10,200,000. And 2019 range is $98,000,000 to $101,000,000. So very similar I think in 2018, what you saw was a little bit of a front end building of the shipment. After we announced that Plant City closure, people were pretty optimistic about where prices would go and they started loading up a little heavier than a normal shipment. But we expect it to be relatively flat. A little bit the same on the potash side. There was just a little bit of that inventory build. Mike, you want to add? No, I guess the only thing I would add is that, as we said before, the both the agronomic and the economic demand drivers remain strong. We've talked about the big withdrawals But I think another important factor is if you look at new crop prices for corn, soybeans and wheat, despite I think the perception that things have really changed, if you look at where they're at today versus the last 3 years, corn prices are kind of the top of that 3 year range, wheat prices are above the 3 year range. And soybean prices are kind of right in the middle. So the signals that farmers are getting today are no different than what they I think bodes well for the demand outlook for next year. Yes. And I'll just end by saying, you asked the final question was about the slate of cord and shift. That has a big impact on nitrogen demand. But for us, both of those are great, great crops and we're pretty agnostic as to which crop is growing Your next question comes from the line of Mark Connelly Hi, good morning. It's Ashish from Mark. Beyond the Vale assets, you also picked up the port and warehouse assets in the North from ADM. How have those assets changed your competitive position in Brazil and affected your freight situation? Yes. Thanks, Chiish. Look, the, the port position in Tiplash in particular, I think is what you're referring to. What that has been able to do for us is now as an importer, we have access to 2 of very good ports, 1 in Parana Gua State and the 1 at Tiplam. And if you think about Brazil and infrastructure in Brazil. One of the key competitive advantages or one of the key competitive issues is access to infrastructure, particularly port infrastructure. So as a major importer of both finished product but also raw materials. This really helps us better run our upstream and downstream businesses. And if you look at our statements on synergies, a big piece of the synergies or at least a piece of the synergies has certainly been associated with the upstream and downstream benefits of this infrastructure that we've added. Your next question comes from the line of Michael Piken. Yeah, hi. Most of my questions have been answered, but Just wanted to sort of get a sense. You guys mentioned on the prepared remarks that you're seeing some of your competitors tight on potash supply right now. Were you referring to the ramp ups of some of the future capacity or were you referring to existing competitors? And what does that meant in terms of the amount of tonnage you have booked maybe in some of those China and India contracts? Thanks. Okay. Thanks, Michael. Look, I think it's both. Certainly, the new suppliers have been slower to come up than one would have expected or one might have expected. But also there has been shutdowns in terms of ICL's ability, as an example, And there has been a refocus in terms of SQM's operations focusing more on lithium and moving away from potash. And then of course, there's been environmental issues in Germany that have also impacted supply. And even some possible Russian supply, which we're not clear on whether it has or has not, but I mean, what we're seeing experientially is a tighter market than we have had previously. And that's obviously being reflected in shipment volumes for us and Canpotex as well as a price movement. And your final question comes from the line of Duffy Fischer. Yes, good morning. Question around the capital. So you called out that your debt is now down to the through the cycle level you need. I was unclear. Does that mean you still want to pay down a little bit now or maybe at some future point, you would decide to pay down a little bit more as we move maybe to a rollover and towards a trough. And then on the capital allocation side, you talked about the risk adjustment you make. Could you maybe just highlight if you looked at, say, Fertilizantes versus a stock buyback, what would be the delta in the re turn that you would need or the risk rate that you would use in those types of investments. Okay, Daphne. Well, let me first highlight, we set a near term target of paying down $700,000,000 and returning to a, a debt ratio of below 2.5:one. Now that's been achieved. As we look the longer term, we're not only looking at what the instantaneous debt ratio is, but are we positioned throughout the cycle? So not only at the middle of the cycle or the, top of the cycle, but also how would we be positioned at the bottom of the cycle. So we really want to think that through carefully and how we're going to address that before we take any steps to either pay down more or not pay down more debt. In terms of your question on the risk reduction and rather than hand this to Clint, which I could do, I think what I would say is we would look at share repurchases as being a cost of capital return to shareholders as opposed to an investment of some sort. In terms of the risk adjusted rate of return, we would have to look at currency risks, geographic risks, technical risks etcetera, and then say, how much above that above the cost of capital does that have to be for it to be an intelligent investment for us to make. So with that, I would like to thank everybody who's been on the call, but I would like to emphasize before we leave a couple of our key messages. First, Mosaic has made tremendous progress. We've transformed our business and created substantial earnings potential. Secondly, Our phosphates and potash market fundamentals have continued to be constructive. And third, we're highly optimistic about both the short and long term. Simply put, we've created an efficient franchise that is generating strong returns, and we expect our momentum to continue to grow Thank you for joining the call.