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Earnings Call: Q4 2018

Mar 6, 2019

Operator

Good morning, welcome to the Moderna Corporate Update and 2018 Financial Review conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the formal remarks, we will open up the call for your questions. Please be advised that the call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Lavina Talukdar, Investor Relations at Moderna. Please proceed.

Lavina Talukdar
Senior VP and Head of Investor Relations, Moderna

Thank you, operator. Good morning, welcome to the Moderna Corporate Update and 2018 Financial Review conference call. This morning, we issued a press release that outlines the topics that we plan to discuss today. You can access the press release as well as the slides that we'll be reviewing by going to the investors section of our website at modernatx.com. Today on this call, we have Stéphane Bancel, our Chief Executive Officer, Tal Zaks, our Chief Medical Officer, and Lorence Kim, our Chief Financial Officer. Stephen Hoge, our President, will also join us when we open up for Q&A at the end. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call will include forward-looking statements.

Slide two of the accompanying presentation and our SEC filings have important risk factors that could cause our actual performance and results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in these forward-looking statements. We undertake no obligation to update or revise the information provided on this call as a result of new information or future results or developments. I will now pass the call over to Stéphane.

Stéphane Bancel
CEO, Moderna

Thank you, Laura, good morning, everyone. Welcome to Moderna's first quarterly conference call as a public company. As you know, we believe that Moderna, that mRNA, has the potential to become a new class of medicines. Since Moderna's inception, we have worked hard to build a company that could become the leader in the field. What has energized us is the potential to make new medicines for untreated diseases, medicines which cannot technologically be made using small or large molecules. We believe that over time, this can go beyond our current therapeutic areas of infectious disease, oncology, rare genetic diseases, and cardiovascular diseases. Because mRNA is an information-containing molecule, we believe that this new class of medicines and the company we have built around it may have many advantages. First, we're able to use similar technology components across programs.

As a result, over time, as we de-risk the use of those components, successive mRNA medicines should have a higher probability of technical success than traditional medicines. Second, by investing in automation, robotics, and IT, we should be able to move very quickly. Unlike small molecule or large molecule technologies, every time we make a product at every scale, we intend to use similar manufacturing processes, accelerating timelines for both the discovery of new development candidates, as well as the scale-up for clinical trials. Finally, because we make mRNA in a liquid phase self-resolution, we believe that over time, our cost of goods will be similar to small molecule injectable commercial products.

With the possibility to build a new class of medicines while helping many patients and creating value for shareholders along the way, we focus on managing four different types of risk: technology risk, biology risk, execution risk, financing risk. As you can see on slide four, it has always been our goal to de-risk each of our modalities by beginning with a development candidate that could allow us to systematically and separately address the biology risk and the technology risk. Early on, we determined that vaccines presented the least technology risk, and therefore decided to pursue this modality first. From a biology risk perspective, we started with influenza vaccine to see if we could safely demonstrate in a phase I trial a defined level of antibodies in healthy volunteers not previously exposed to the virus.

At the time of our IPO, we had advanced programs across three other modalities in the clinic: cancer vaccines, intratumoral immuno-oncology, and localized regenerative therapeutics. Already in 2019, we have initiated human dosing in our fifth modality, systemic secreted therapeutics, with mRNA-1944, an mRNA encoding an antibody against the chikungunya virus. This program uses the same delivery technology as our four rare genetic disease programs, MMA, PA, PKU, and Fabry, as well as our Relaxin cardiology program. On slide five, you can see our 2019, 2020 priorities. As we build the company, our top priority is to advance our development pipeline to get these important innovative medicines to patients. We also focus on growth and therefore have a subset of our team focused on creating new development candidates within our existing six modalities.

Given that these new development candidates use the same technology component as those already in the clinic, we're able to significantly reduce technology risk and move swiftly from a drug concept to a development candidate. Our third area of focus is on the long term, meaning inventing new modalities which can deliver mRNA to new tissues and/or cell types. On slide six, outlined in red, you can see how the pipeline has advanced in the 90 days since our IPO. Let me spend a minute on this from right to left. We are planning a phase II study for PCV and a phase II cohort for OX40 ligand in ovarian cancer. We reported positive interim phase I HMPV plus PIV3 vaccine data supporting the move into a phase I-B age de-escalation study in children.

We have begun dosing in phase I studies for mRNA encoding an antibody against chikungunya virus and for the immuno-oncology triplet. INDs are now open for MMA and IL-12. On slide seven, let me give you a quick update about our manufacturing site in Norwood, Massachusetts. We have three distinct activities on the slide. First, we manufacture clinical material. Since the site opening, we have successfully manufactured clinical-grade mRNA, and then moved to formulation, and then to filling, and finally labeling of our vials. We are now actively working toward vertical integration of critical raw materials like DNA plasmids used as templates to our mRNA, buffers, and other raw materials. We have also successfully transferred a second capability to Norwood for personalized cancer vaccine, or PCV.

We started our PCV clinical trial in 2017 by making PCV vaccines as a contract manufacturer in the U.S., using Moderna manufacturing process and the robotics we invented to be able to make one lot personalized for one patient. I am pleased to report that we are now capable of making all our PCVs in Norwood for patients in the remainder of our phase I, as well for our phase II. The third capability transfer to Norwood, which will enable us to reduce cost, is our preclinical robotics that makes all of our research-grade mRNA and formulations. Let me close my introduction by saying that I'm very proud of the progress our team made in 2018 and in the 19 days since our IPO. Momentum and growth are very important to Moderna's success, and it is exciting to see significant progress across the business.

I would like now to turn to Tal.

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Thank you, Stéphane. Let me now review our progress by modality. If you go ahead to slide nine and 10, I'll start with the prophylactic vaccines. A few weeks ago, we reported the phase I data for our combination vaccine against two respiratory viruses, human metapneumovirus and parainfluenza virus 3, or HMPV and PIV3. These are two important causes of respiratory tract infections in children and can lead to viral pneumonia and hospitalization, particularly in children under two years old. There are currently no approved vaccines against either HMPV or PIV3. Now on slide 11, as we had disclosed, the top-line interim data from this study showed that a single vaccination with mRNA-1653 boosted the titers of neutralizing antibodies against both HMPV and PIV3, and that the magnitude of the boost was similar at all dose levels tested.

As you would expect, all study participants had some level of baseline neutralizing antibodies against both viruses. Yet one month after a single mRNA-1653 vaccination, neutralizing titers against HMPV rose to approximately sixfold baseline, and those against PIV3 rose to approximately threefold baseline. A second vaccination one month later did not further boost antibody titers, suggesting that a single vaccination is already achieving a plateau in the generation of neutralizing antibodies in this pre-exposed population. mRNA-1653 was found to be generally well tolerated. No serious adverse events, adverse events of special interest, or adverse events leading to withdrawal were reported. Injection site pain was the most commonly reported adverse event and the most common grade 3 adverse event. The magnitude of responses that we observed is sufficient for us to advance mRNA-1653 to a phase I-B trial in toddlers, a trial that we are currently designing.

I look forward to further discussion of this point and other aspects of our clinical data at a future medical meeting. Let me move to our congenital CMV vaccine on slide 12. This is a vaccine against cytomegalovirus, which is the most common congenital viral infection, impacting close to 40,000 infants annually in the U.S. Congenital CMV infection can severely affect infant brain development and is an important cause of childhood hearing loss. There is currently no approved vaccine to prevent CMV. Our vaccine, mRNA-1647, has enrolled the initial three dose levels in the phase I trial. While we have not yet seen any immunogenicity data, the safety and tolerability data both in this trial and across our other infectious disease vaccines suggest that we should be able to dose escalate above 180 microgram.

We are expanding the trial to enroll two additional dose levels at higher doses in the range of 300 micrograms. As a reminder, 300 microgram was the top dose that we tested in the HMPV-PIV3 study. Reviewing our overall progress on slide 13, we have to date dosed approximately 950 healthy volunteers enrolled across seven phase I trials at doses up to 300 microgram. The emerging safety and tolerability profile has been consistent with that of marketed adjuvanted vaccines. With a positive readout from HMPV-PIV3, we have now shown promising data from five phase I programs within our prophylactic vaccines modality. We continue to make progress. I spoke about our plans for HMPV-PIV3 and CMV. On Zika, we previously disclosed data for mRNA-1893, which has the potential to be a much more potent follow-on to mRNA-1325.

We are in the process of writing the IND for it and so will not be further developing mRNA-1325. Overall, our development of a vaccine against Zika continues to be funded by BARDA under the grant award of approximately $125 million. Lastly, our partners at Merck are preparing to initiate a phase II-A trial of mRNA-1777, our RSV vaccine. Let me now talk about our cancer vaccine programs. If you advance to slide 15, you can clearly see the immunogenicity data from a patient in the phase I trial of our personalized cancer vaccine. As we previously disclosed, at the dose level 2 of 0.13 milligram, we were able to show that we elicited new antigen-specific T cell responses. To date, we have dosed over 30 patients.

At the top dose of one milligram, we have not seen any dose-limiting toxicities, either for the vaccine alone or in combination with KEYTRUDA. We have selected this as the dose to move forward into phase II. On slide 16, you can see the design of this phase II study. It is designed to assess whether postoperative adjuvant therapy with mRNA-4157 and KEYTRUDA can improve the recurrence-free survival for melanoma patients when compared to KEYTRUDA alone. We will be testing this in patients who remain at high risk of recurrence, despite having had their tumors resected. The primary endpoint for this study will be recurrence-free survival, and we're planning to have the primary analysis done 12 months after the last subject is enrolled. This protocol has been submitted to FDA.

As an aside, I would note that we are increasing the neoantigen count in our personalized cancer vaccines from 20 to 34 neoantigens, all still encoded on a single mRNA chain. We intend to apply this advance to the phase II study. Let me now turn to our intratumoral immuno-oncology programs, which you can see on slide 18. We continue to advance the phase I study of mRNA-2416, which encodes for the OX40 ligand membrane protein and have dosed over 30 patients on this study, some for as many as 10 cycles at doses of up to eight milligrams. We've not seen any dose-limiting toxicities. We have shown that OX40 ligand protein expression in certain injected lesions, and have observed regression of injected lesions in two patients with advanced ovarian cancer, although these regressions did not meet RECIST criteria.

These observations have motivated us to trigger the phase II cohort in patients with ovarian cancer. The top dose tested in the phase I trial, eight milligrams, is currently in the dose confirmation stage. This is the dose we intend for the phase II cohort in ovarian cancer. Let me talk about mRNA-2752, which encodes the triplet combination of OX40 ligand, interleukin-23, and interleukin-36 gamma. In January, we published new preclinical data in Science Translational Medicine showing that local delivery of the triplet induced a broad immune response and caused tumor regressions in both injected and distant uninjected lesions in murine models. Additionally, when combined with checkpoint inhibitors, this triplet was able to induce responses in tumor models that are otherwise unresponsive to checkpoint inhibitors. These data provide the scientific basis for the phase I study of mRNA-2752.

We initiated dosing late last year. We have not seen any dose-limiting toxicities in the first dose level and are now beginning to treat patients at the second dose level. Finally, there has also been progress with MEDI1191 and mRNA encoding interleukin-12. IL-12 is a potent immune modulator whose preclinical profile has generated much interest as a potential anticancer agent. In the past, the clinical development of systemically administered recombinant IL-12 has been hampered by systemic toxicity. We have demonstrated preclinically that intratumoral doses of mRNA encoding IL-12 can be delivered safely and induced a complete response in multiple murine models, providing the scientific foundation for our partners at AstraZeneca to advance MEDI1191 into the clinic. Indeed, I'm happy to report that AstraZeneca has filed the IND for MEDI1191. This IND is now open.

This trial is designed to evaluate safety and efficacy in patients with solid tumors in combination with a checkpoint inhibitor. On slide 19, I want to briefly mention the modality of localized regenerative therapeutics. AstraZeneca continues to enroll patients in the randomized phase IIa trial of AZD8601, which is an mRNA encoding for VEGF-A. As a reminder, the phase I showed that AZD8601 was well-tolerated and led to the translation of functional VEGF-A protein, which caused a dose-dependent increase in blood flow where it was injected. These data were recently published in Nature Communications. Next to our systemic secreted therapeutics, let me provide some context on our first program in this modality.

On slide 21, you can see that as we were assessing the biology risk for our systemic secreted therapies, we began the development efforts by encoding a monoclonal antibody with the goal of inducing transient passive immunity in the recipient. An antibody would represent a complex protein as it requires the co-translation of two separate mRNAs and the correct intracellular folding and eventual secretion to the blood of a formed antibody. From a safety perspective, we would expect an antiviral monoclonal antibody to be safe, and we should be able to measure its blood levels. This would then allow us to quantify the PK/PD relationship, in other words, how much mRNA is required to produce how much protein, in a relatively straightforward manner.

This relationship would be of obvious relevance to our pipeline of mRNA medicines for rare diseases, particularly because the lipid nanoparticle delivery system is shared with our rare disease programs as well as with Relaxin. We chose an antibody against the chikungunya virus encoded as mRNA-1944. On slide 22, you can see the phase I design for this study. We're conducting it in healthy volunteers, so it should give us a read on the safety and tolerability of the formulation. The pharmacological goal is to determine how much antibody we can produce as a result of systemically administered mRNA, and whether one day we may be able to offer people passive immunity against infection by this virus, which today has neither vaccine nor specific therapies available. On slide 22, you can see our progress overall in systemic secreted therapeutics.

We recently completed dosing of all eight subjects in the first cohort of healthy volunteers in this phase I study, and I look forward to sharing more about this study once we have a complete picture of the data. In addition, we're continuing to move our Fabry and Relaxin programs forward into clinical trials. Let me turn to our systemic intracellular therapeutics. On slide 25, I'm happy to share today that FDA has given us Fast Track designation for our methylmalonic acidemia program and has allowed us to open the IND for mRNA-3704, which encodes the MUT enzyme missing in children with this disease. We're now preparing to begin the phase I/II study, and I'll come back to this in just a moment.

In addition to mRNA-3704, we continue to progress the preclinical development for both propionic acidemia and phenylketonuria programs with the goal of bringing them into the clinic. On slide 26, let me describe the design of the MMA study. The primary objective is to evaluate the safety, pharmacodynamics, and pharmacokinetics of mRNA-3704 in patients with methylmalonic acidemia. We intend to enroll pediatric patients with elevated plasma MMA levels, and the first dose level will begin with adolescents aged 12 to 18. Once we assess the safety and tolerability of this age group, we then intend to enroll patients who are between the ages of one and 18 years old. Following dose escalation, we anticipate the study will move into a dose expansion phase. As a reminder, we have an ongoing natural history study underway for both methylmalonic acidemia and propionic acidemia, which we call the MaP study.

As of the end of February, we have 32 patients enrolled in this study, 20 with MMA and 12 with PA. Let me close on slide 27 with our pipeline, which illustrates the breadth of our development programs. We're proud of our ability to advance multiple programs in parallel across many different treatment modalities and for different diseases. I look forward to updating you further as we continue to progress our programs. With that, I will now turn the call over to Lorence to walk through the financials.

Lorence Kim
CFO, Moderna

Thank you, Tal. Let me turn to slide 28. In today's press release, we reported our fourth quarter and full year 2018 financial results. Please note these results are unaudited. We ended 2018 with cash equivalents, and investments of $1.7 billion. This compares to $902 million at the end of 2017. This increase was due primarily to the financing proceeds, approximately $563 million in net proceeds from our initial public offering in December 2018, approximately $661 million in net proceeds from our preferred stock issuances earlier in 2018, and a $13 million premium associated with the 2018 amended and restated PCV agreement with Merck. All of this was offset partially by the cash used in 2019 to fund operations and for purchases of property and equipment.

In further discussing our financial results, let me then focus on two cash flow metrics, which provide a better view on cash use given the quantity of deferred revenues, stock-based compensation, and depreciation embedded in our operating income. Secondly, cash used for purchases of property and equipment was $106 million for the full year 2018, compared to $58 million for the full year 2017. Of that cash used specifically related to our Norwood manufacturing facility was $95 million in 2018, compared to $41 million in 2017. Revenue for the full year 2018 was $135 million as compared to $206 million for 2017. The decrease was mainly attributable to the termination of the Alexion strategic alliance arrangement in October 2017, which caused an accelerated recognition of deferred revenue in 2017.

There was a decrease in grant revenue from the BARDA contract, primarily due to revisions in the Zika program, leading to a focus on preclinical studies of mRNA-1893, our follow-on to mRNA-1325. The decreases were partially offset by increases in collaboration revenue from AstraZeneca and Merck. R&D expenses for full year 2018 were approximately $454 million, compared to $410 million for 2017. The increase was primarily due to an increase in personnel-related costs, including stock-based compensation, mainly driven by an increase in the number of employees supporting our R&D programs, an increase in consulting and outside services, and an increase in facility and equipment-related costs. G&A expenses for full year 2018 were approximately $94 million compared to $65 million in 2017.

This increase was mainly attributable to increases in personnel-related costs, including stock-based compensation, driven by an increase in the number of employees and consulting and outside services, all of which were in support of our public company readiness. I'll finish this slide with our expectations for our cash use in 2019. Currently, we expect that we will finish the year with between $1.15 billion and $1.2 billion in cash equivalents, and investments. Our use of cash is rising from 2018, driven by our advancing pipeline and the associated development and supply costs, offset by a decline in our expected capital expenditures after last year's completion of Norwood. Two last points before I hand the call back over to Stéphane. As noted in our press release, we're pleased that we are to be added to the Russell 1000 and Russell 3000 indices effective March 18th.

Lastly, I'm very excited to welcome Lavina Talukdar to our team as Head of Investor Relations, effective April 1st. Lavina joins us from ADIA and a long career on the buy side. Let me turn it over to Stéphane.

Stéphane Bancel
CEO, Moderna

Thank you, Lorence. Moving to slide 29. To close our remarks, I would like to reiterate that the company is very focused on execution. I hope our recent progress gives you a sense for that focus, which is central to both our culture and our mission. Three priorities. Number one, advancing the development pipeline and getting to clinical readouts as fast as we can with high quality. Number two, investing new development candidates in the six existing modalities and moving them to our development pipeline. Number three, inventing new modalities. If you can turn to slide 30, which shows our anticipated clinical next steps. 2019 and 2020 are going to be important for Moderna. We expect additional phase I readouts and multiple phase II starts and readouts. Turning to slide 31, we would like to announce two important investor events for Moderna this year that we hope you can join.

We will host a science day in Cambridge on May 7th, led by Dr. Stephen Hoge. We'll host an R&D day in New York City on September 12th, led by Dr. Tal Zaks. On slide 32, you have an update of Moderna. I believe that Moderna is operating from a place of tremendous strength. Enabled by our mRNA platform, our large development pipeline continues to progress based on the data we are generating. We have now four programs in or planning for phase II, six positive phase I results, five ongoing phase I trials, three open INDs. If you look at the pipeline by therapeutic area, I'm very proud that we now have five immuno-oncology programs, OX40 ovarian and PCV preparing for phase II. The triplet is continuing dose escalation in phase I and two open INDs, KRAS with Merck and IL-12 with AstraZeneca.

Four rare disease programs, MMA, PA, PKU, and Fabry. Three vaccines for large unmet medical needs, RSV, CMV, and the combo HMPV, PIV3. More than 750 talented employees who are committed to leading mRNA science. A 200,000 sq ft manufacturing site in Norwood, which is a strategic asset for Moderna. This capability will enable us to scale and provide an important competitive advantage to Moderna to keep executing and accelerating. A strong balance sheet with $1.7 billion of cash. This provides many years of financing for operations and investment in our future. On slide 33, our mission. We know that we have a special opportunity. We are committed to delivering on the promise of our science and bringing forward a new class of medicines for patients in need.

I'd like to end our remarks by thanking the many people who participate in our clinical studies, including patients, healthy volunteers, and physicians. With that, we'll now be happy to take any questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, if you do have a question, please press the star and the number one key on your touch-tone telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. Our first question comes from the line of Matthew Harrison of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker 12

Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I guess two for me. Can you talk about first for PCV, why you chose that specific indication? Just because maybe I'm not familiar, what's typical recurrence-free survival for patients that you're enrolling here? Maybe you could just talk about how the study is powered or what you're hoping to achieve with the PCV combination versus that. The second question, just given the fact that you've pushed OX40 ligand into a phase II study on its own, how should we think about that program versus the triplet? Is there a point at which you have to pick one? Thanks.

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Thank you. This is Tal. Let me answer them in sequence. Let's start with the adjuvant trial for PCV. The reason to pick this indication is because I think it's generally true across anti-cancer drugs that when a drug is effective, the magnitude of effect tends to be higher in earlier lines of treatment, and even more so in the adjuvant setting. You would expect this to be true for melanoma and for immunotherapy specifically because you need some time and a healthy immune system for the patient to be able to react. It is also notable, I think, that most, if not all of the data to date and similar approaches has been developed in adjuvant melanoma. It's a place where I think overall the likelihood of success is highest.

In terms of this patient population, in recent studies, I think the recurrence-free survival of patients with advanced melanoma that has been resected has been around 33%-40%, if you look at recent studies. Our underlying assumptions, since we're taking a slightly higher risk patient population, was that the baseline rate should be about 45%. The trial is powered at about 85% power with a one-sided alpha of 0.1 as is typical for phase II POC studies to show a hazard ratio of about 0.5. I think typical stats more or less for a proof of concept study. I would note that the study has a randomization of two to one, the reason that we're enrolling more patients on the treatment arm with the vaccine is because there's a good body of recent evidence on how patients perform in terms of just KEYTRUDA alone.

Our partners, Merck, have all that experience at hand from their recent phase III trials in this setting, which led to the approval of KEYTRUDA in this setting. We should be able to leverage not just the control arm on this study, but a wider body of data as a comparator for the study, helping us overall with the sense of power here. That's on PCV. For the OX40 ligand, it's a good question and one that obviously we wrestle with as well. Like any cancer doc, when you see a signal of activity, you feel compelled to go and see if there's real benefit there for patients. Ultimately, OX40 ligand is ahead of the triplet in terms of the clinical trials.

Time will tell what is the magnitude of activity that we see in this trial and what type of activity we can see with the triplet. I think it's too early to predict how this will play out. I think for now we are following the clinical signals where we see them as one is wont to do for the benefit of patients.

Speaker 12

Tal, can I just ask a follow-up on the triplet? I assume the dosing strategy there is to go a little bit slower given some of the cytokines you have involved as well. Will that one maybe even take longer to potentially catch up or have similar data to OX40L ligand alone?

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Not necessarily. I think, yes, we are starting it at a somewhat lower dose than we started with OX40 ligand alone, because OX40 ligand is a membrane-bound protein. You'd expect less risk. Of course, when you've got locally secreted cytokines, you want to dose them at a dose that has the local activity without spillover to systemic toxicity. There's probably a couple more dose cohorts in that study, but I don't think it's going to be a significant delay relative to our experience with OX40 ligand.

Speaker 12

Great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Salveen Richter of Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Salveen Richter
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Good morning. Two questions from me as well. With regard to the PCV program, you mentioned that you've increased the neoantigen count of the cassette from 20 to 34. Just wanted to get your thoughts around that and whether you think that's a broad enough sample set. Secondly, on the systemic therapeutic modalities, can you help us understand with regard to the chikungunya program, you're looking at a single dose right now, but at one point you'll look to multiple doses. How should we think about the safety profile in the context of de-risking this program based on the redosing aspect? The second systemic therapeutic question is when could we see MMA data? Thank you.

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Thank you for those. Let me start in the sequence that you asked, the neoantigen number. Look, what we know from immuno-oncology is that it really only takes one antigen if you have a sufficiently potent immune response to lead to cancer regression. The question is, how do you increase the probability of getting the right one? If you look at the average number of mutations that occur within coding sequences and then get expressed in proteins, depending on the tumor type, you can have up to typically in the order of a couple of hundred is sort of the number at the median range. Increasing the number, I think overall should increase the probability of success. Now you have to do it within the context of what you think is feasible for the technology.

One of the benefits of having it all encoded in mRNA is that going from 20 to 34 in this case, doesn't materially affect our complexity of either process or cost of goods. It just took us some optimization of the mRNA and what we're doing. I think it's a step in the right direction in terms of how one thinks about eliciting the most potent immune response possible. It will be obviously difficult to nail down what is the right number. We're trying to give this vaccine the best possible opportunity to succeed for patients here. In terms of how to think about single dose versus multiple doses and the safety, it's a good question. The place for us to start is at a place where we can have the clearest understanding of what a safety profile would be.

That's why we started with a single ascending dose in healthy people for a protein that should be innocuous in and of itself. That's why I think the chikungunya, we view it as a very informative first step. It's a good question on the safety of single versus repeated doses. If I look at the totality of our preclinical models, I don't think we have a sense that giving multiple doses should give you a different safety profile than giving a single dose. If you look at typical adverse event profiles for injected medicines, whether they be antibodies or lipid nanoparticles, the sort of acute reactogenicity or hypersensitivity reactions, should you see them, don't necessarily increase over time. In some cases, they decrease over time. In some cases, it just happens sporadically.

I'm not sure that I expect a different safety profile on repeat dose versus single dose. That's how we think about the relevance of this first program to the rest of our rare disease repeat dose programs. Your last question on when can we expect data from MMA. Look, we're not forward guiding. Obviously, this is a very rare patient population. We have to start in a place that balances the age of the patients and the age of where actually disease is prevalent, which is what led us to this adolescent group. What we are committed to is being transparent at every stage of the way, where we are in terms of enrollment, you'll see us give you regular updates on our progress.

Salveen Richter
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Cory Kasimov of J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.

Speaker 13

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. This is Matthew in for Cory. Just to follow up on the PCV program, curious if you can help us better understand what informed your decision from an efficacy perspective to move ahead to the phase II trial, specifically at the 1 mg dose cohort.

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Yeah. It's a great question. We are talking about cancer vaccines, which obviously are a tough place to predict efficacy historically. I think it's a combination of two things. Our sense of the totality of the immunogenicity data that we've seen to date, in our program, we've disclosed for one patient. The rest we'll disclose when there's a body of evidence that's sufficient to really have a scientific discourse at a medical meeting. The totality of our data, combined with our sense of the tolerability and safety profile at the 1 milligram dose, I think, has given us and our partners, Merck, the confidence that we are ready to go to phase II.

In terms of what it takes to plan your phase II, we've always been committed to ensuring that we test this Personalized Cancer Vaccine in a way that is as definitive as possible, which is why you see us launch relatively early a randomized phase II study. We will be continuing to expand the phase I experiment with additional cohorts, to further characterize both the immunogenicity and the potential for benefit, in the single arm sense. If you want a definitive result, you run a randomized phase II. That's what we're doing here.

Speaker 13

Great. Thanks. Just quickly on the CMV vaccine program, does the opening of the 300 microgram dose cohort affect timelines for when we should expect to see initial immunogenicity and safety data?

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Yes, I think that's a fair question. I would anticipate it will delay somewhat the timeline. We have made great progress to date. We've completed enrollment in the first three cohorts. It is a healthy volunteer study, so our ability to accrue, recruit patients on time and analyze the data has been exactly where we'd want it. I think the nature of these studies is that you first get a sense of tolerability and only later of immunogenicity. I'd hate to come to the end of this study and figure that I've underdosed, which is why we've decided to take a little bit longer, and make sure we're exploring the full range of doses that we think is appropriate.

Speaker 13

Great. Thanks for taking my question.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ying Huang of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open.

Ying Huang
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one is on the PCV program. Tal, can you comment whether you observed any epitope spreading in the phase I portion? Also, can you comment on your manufacturing needle-to-needle timeline now that everything's brought in-house? Then I have a second question on the OX40 ligand program. Do you believe that you need to go to a higher dose for OX40 ligand, or do you think maybe ultimately you need a combination, the triplet, to achieve meaningful clinical activity here? Thanks.

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Thank you for those. Let's start with antigen spreading. I think that's a tough one. To be fair, the majority of the thrust for our translational experiments has been to ascertain whether we can actually elicit the immunogenicity against the new epitopes for which we encode. The magnitude, I think, overall of data here, is not going to be as scientifically, I think, rewarding as you might want in terms of answering such a multitude of questions in this first phase I. Really, the goal of phase I was to establish a dose where we believe there is immunogenicity against that which we encode. Some of those questions we will answer, I think, later in the program, and you'll see some of that data as we get a sufficient body of evidence to be able to share it with the broader scientific community.

The turnaround time, we are currently at around 50 days, I'd say, needle to needle. We're continuously looking at ways to improve it. As you would expect, bringing it to Norwood should enable us to tighten the timelines. This will be a continuous evolution over time as we look. Every day matters here, and we look at hours and days as a metric to continuously improve there. In terms of the dose for OX40 ligand, I think that to date we've seen protein expression in the injected lesions, so it's hard to determine what is the optimal dose. I think the fact that we've been able to show some local pharmacology when you actually look at the stained tissue, gives us a sense that we are activating the pathway in the way that we hope to.

To your point, I think that, or from a scientific perspective, you would expect that you would need additional signals, whether they are additional local signals, like in the triplet or potentially even the additional of a systemic checkpoint inhibitor, to see the maximal activity of this type of therapy. I think that's been borne out for other approaches in this space as well.

Ying Huang
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Geoff Meacham of Barclays. Your line is open.

Geoff Meacham
Analyst, Barclays

Hey, guys. Good morning, thanks for the question and congrats on your first public call. Just have a couple. The first one is an active comparator study in PCV obviously is a high bar, but it really is the best way to achieve proof of concept. The question is philosophically, should this be the template that we should expect going forward in oncology or really wherever you're targeting indications where there is an existing standard of care? The second question is on manufacturing. I know the Norwood facility is obviously built for scale-up, but just given the breadth of the pipeline, is there ample capacity, for example, to get to pivotal or large-scale studies in all your disclosed programs, or you think ultimately you need to expand even more down the road? Thank you.

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Thank you. Let me take the first question in terms of active comparator study. Clinical development remains artisanal. The truth is that it depends on the situation. I think in oncology, in large indications, there are instances where the signal is unquestionable there, and you go on a single arm, and everybody agrees that, yes, you're bringing benefit to patients. Traditionally, one expects, at some point, a randomized trial. I think to make broad statements of what's always applicable is hard, certainly for a company that's so early in the stage. I would further note that if you look across our pipeline, some of the indications we're targeting are extremely rare indications in which it's virtually impossible to conduct a full randomized study as you would for more prevalent indications. I don't think I can really give you a more satisfactory answer than that.

In terms of our manufacturing capacity, let me ask Stéphane to take that one.

Stéphane Bancel
CEO, Moderna

Yeah. Thanks, Tal. Regarding manufacturing, the thing that is very clear is that the vision and the mission of Norwood is to be a development site long term. Having said that, as you know, managing risk is really important to the team. What we have done as we design and build Norwood from a utility standpoint, it can accommodate phase III and launches. It is not a launch ready today for commercial, but we have roadmaps and timelines that have been developed by the team so that if we were to decide to get ready for Norwood for launches, we could do that. We have also, of course, a second plan that gives us full optionality, which is we have enabled a commercial contract manufacturing organization in the U.S., which is doing commercial product as we speak. They are acting as a backup for Norwood.

As we get closer to launch and to running pivotals, we could decide to either rapidly enable Norwood for our first few launches or use the contract manufacturer. In the long term, our goal will be to build a commercial plant, but for obvious reason of managing risk, we do not want to do that until we have our first product approved. We have a good path forward of how we manage the next phase of our growth dealing with pivotal and commercial.

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Okay, thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes on the line of Ted Tenthoff of Piper Jaffray. Your line is open.

Ted Tenthoff
Analyst, Piper Jaffray

Great. Thank you very much for taking my questions. Congratulations on all the progress. My question has to do with HMPV-PIV3, and congrats on that good phase I data. Really clean safety profile. What are some of the special considerations or how should we be thinking about this toddler study? Obviously, safety is going to be paramount, but are there anything else we should be considering, like when you dose or things like that maybe you learned from the immunogenicity curves from the healthies? Thanks.

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Thank you for that question. I think there are several relevant considerations here. The first is to note that the first exposure in the pediatric population will still be in seropositives. We have to make sure that because of the history, primarily of inactivated RSV back in the day, there is a theoretical concern of disease exacerbation. So one always starts by evaluating safety in seropositive toddlers. I think the nice thing for the phase I or for the data is because we reached a plateau so soon, we have a wide margin of doses that we could test that should give us a read on safety and tolerability in these seropositive toddlers. I can't comment further because we're still in the design phases of this study. Obviously, we would have to sit down with the regulatory authority as well before we can commit to what that is.

Ted Tenthoff
Analyst, Piper Jaffray

Great. Excellent. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes in the line of Hartaj Singh of Oppenheimer & Co.. Your line is open.

Hartaj Singh
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Great. Thank you. Thanks for the questions. I just have a couple of questions, one general, one specific. The general question is, you've been having a lot of regulatory interactions now as you're having your programs go into phase I and II. You've got a lot of different, I call them orthogonal approaches, ongoing interacting different groups with the FDA. Do you get a sense that with different groups, that there's a potential to accelerate some of the programs, oncology, for example, versus vaccines, et cetera? Do you get a sense that some groups are more amenable to an accelerated approach versus others? What would those be? The more specific question is, just on the PCV, what % of the patients with their resected melanoma with a high risk of recurrence actually get KEYTRUDA?

Will you be selecting for patients that have sort of a better immune system status, if that's possible? Thank you.

Tal Zaks
Chief Medical Officer, Moderna

Thank you for those. I'm just jotting a note so I don't forget the questions. Let me start with your general question on FDA. It is true that we are interacting across three very different disease areas. We've got healthy volunteers in the vaccines division. We've got oncology applications and obviously rare disease applications. We primarily interact with two groups at FDA. It's either the Division of Vaccines or OTAT, under which falls both the cancer and rare disease indications. On the vaccine side, I think we're in a very fortunate position. Wellington Sun, who was the director of that division for the past decade and has overseen the approval of every new vaccine in this space in the U.S. for the past 10 years, has actually joined us a few months back. He's our head of regulatory and strategy for vaccines.

I think under his leadership, we have a good sense of what is the best way forward to balance the regulatory risk and the development risk, if you will? In terms of OTAT, are some groups different than others at FDA, I think to give FDA credit, their framework of understanding benefit risk is pretty systemically applied across. I think the hard reality is that we're talking about very different indications and very different assessments of safety and risk versus potential benefit. Of course, when you go into healthy kids with a vaccine, it's a very different bar of how you develop it versus going after rare diseases with huge unmet needs and no standard of care, or oncology, which we're all familiar with. I think the totality of our interactions with FDA today, I think, has been very positive.

Numerous pre-IND meetings, discussions on changes in clinical design, patient population, CMC. I think we've found a very active partner that has really helped us. We're starting our first steps into Europe. We've been to Europe, both us and our partners, in several countries. I give FDA a lot of credit as providing really deep insight and help as we move forward. In terms of PCV and KEYTRUDA, I'm not sure what the actual commercial numbers are for KEYTRUDA. Suffice to say that it's a recognized standard of care. They have a label in this indication, and I think it's hard to argue that KEYTRUDA is, if not the best, one of the best checkpoint inhibitors in the space. I think we're on very solid footing.

Certainly, the investigators that I talk to out there who are treating these patients are all very familiar and very comfortable with using KEYTRUDA in this indication. Selecting for patients who are more immunocompetent, I wish I had a way to do that, and I'm open to any ideas. I think it's hard. We, as a scientific community, have not really yet found a way that can parse out who is likely to respond and who isn't. I think by going earlier in the life of a patient with cancer, if you will, before they've been extensively treated after basically getting a surgical resection, I think gives us the best opportunity to immunize a patient whose immune system is as robust as it can be.

Hartaj Singh
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Great. Thank you so much for those really granular responses. Really appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you have a question at this time, please press the star and the number one key. Our next question comes from the line of Alan Carr, Needham. Your line is open.

Alan Carr
Analyst, Needham

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. You've obviously got a pretty sizable pipeline as it is, but you have talked about your ability to expand beyond that. I'm wondering if you can give us a sense of to what extent you expect it to grow this year and how you might disclose new programs as they move forward. Also, in terms of spend for 2019, you said the CapEx would go down. I'm wondering if you can give us a sense. Is this something that's going to be substantially lower than the 2017 levels, even? Thanks.

Stéphane Bancel
CEO, Moderna

Thank you, Stéphane. I'll take the first question, and obviously Lorence will take the finance question. As we've said in the past, we don't disclose the important work that's happening in research as we grow and as we build the business. What we will do is, either through quarterly calls or through different Moderna events, we will share any new development candidate. The team is working on all of our modalities to advance new development candidates, and when they'll be ready, we will communicate those to investors and analysts. Lorence?

Lorence Kim
CFO, Moderna

Thanks, Alan. On our spend 2019 and the CapEx question. We're not specifically guiding on CapEx. What I can say is that when you look at what's driving CapEx down for this year, it's the fact that Norwood is complete. The investment in Norwood, which was substantial and well worth it, really bridges between 2017 and 2018. If you look at the total cash used to purchase property and equipment in 2017, that was $58 million. Again, a big chunk of that, $40-plus million, was Norwood. I think that gives you a sense for where we're heading without the specificity of guidance here.

Alan Carr
Analyst, Needham

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Lorence Kim
CFO, Moderna

Okay.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Stéphane for any closing remarks.

Stéphane Bancel
CEO, Moderna

Well, thank you very much, everybody, for joining us today and for your questions. We look forward to catching up with many of you in the coming weeks. At the latest, I hope to see you on May 7th, Science Day in Boston. Have a nice day. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.