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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

Feb 2, 2023

Operator

Hello everyone, welcome to the New Jersey Resources Fiscal 2023 first quarter conference call and webcast. My name is Bruno, and I will be operating your call today. During this presentation, you can register to ask a question by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. I will now hand over to the management team.

Adam Prior
Director of Investor Relations, New Jersey Resources

Thank you, everyone. Welcome to New Jersey Resources Fiscal 2023 first quarter conference call and webcast. I'm joined here today by Stephen Westhoven, our President and CEO; Roberto Bel, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, as well as other members of our senior management team. Certain statements in today's call contain estimates and other forward-looking statements within the meaning of the securities laws. We wish to caution listeners of this call that the current expectations, assumptions, and beliefs forming the basis of our forward-looking statements include many factors that are beyond our ability to control or estimate precisely. This could cause results to materially differ from our expectations as found on slide 1.

These items can also be found in the forward-looking statements section of today's earnings release, furnished on Form 8-K and in our most recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q, as filed with the SEC. We do not, by including this statement, assume any obligation to review or revise any forward-looking statement referenced herein in light of future events. We will also be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures such as net financial earnings or NFE. We believe that NFE, net financial loss, utility gross margin, and financial margin provide a more complete understanding of our financial performance. However, these non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for GAAP. Our non-GAAP financial measures are discussed more fully in Item 7 of our 10-K. Our agenda for today is found on slide 2.

Steve will begin with this quarter's highlights, followed by Roberto, who will review our financial results. We will open the call for your questions. The slides accompanying today's presentation are available on our website and were furnished on our Form 8-K filed this morning. With that said, I will turn the call over to our President and CEO, Steve Westhoven. Please go ahead, Steve.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Thanks, Adam. Good morning, everyone. We delivered strong results in the first quarter. This included exceptional performance during a unique weather event over the Christmas weekend. This speaks to the resiliency of our physical infrastructure and also to the talent and determination of our people. As a result of NJR's successful operation during this event, we are raising our fiscal 2023 guidance by $0.20 to $2.62-$2.72 per share. Before we move to the quarterly results and our forecast for the year, I'd like to begin with an update on our sustainability and decarbonization efforts on slide 3. Last week, we issued NJR's fiscal 2022 corporate sustainability report, our 14th consecutive annual report dating back to 2008.

The report details our goals and accomplishments in sustainability and other ESG related areas, as well as our approach to innovation, low carbon fuels, energy efficiency, and environmental stewardship. I'd like to cover just a few of the report's highlights with you. We believe the fastest and most cost-effective tool to reduce emissions is through energy efficiency initiatives. Last year, we invested more than $53 million in New Jersey Natural Gas' energy efficiency programs, the highest single year investment of this type in our company's history. Growing these programs is a central element to our decarbonization strategy, and New Jersey Natural Gas has long been a leader in this area.

On solar, we continue to advance our leadership at Clean Energy Ventures by placing into service 2 milestone projects of national significance, including one of the largest capped landfill solar arrays and the largest floating solar installation in the United States. Finally, our $20 million endowment supports our charitable foundation work. These resources enable our foundation to focus on medium and long-term partnerships that drive outcomes that make a difference for local communities and the environment. We hope that all of you have an opportunity to review the report. Turning to slide 4. We reported net financial earnings of $1.14 per share in the first quarter, a 65% increase from the same period a year ago. As I noted earlier, we are especially proud of our company's performance during Winter Storm Elliott, which was a historic event that impacted the entire country.

In our service territory, we saw temperatures fall as much as 50 degrees in just under 12 hours. The impact of these record low temperatures limited gas supply in certain locations in the U.S. At New Jersey Natural Gas, our customers were able to enjoy their holiday without curtailments. This speaks to the resiliency of our gas supply network, as well as the dedication of our team, which worked throughout the holiday weekend to ensure that we met all obligations to our customers. In our storage and transportation business, we reported exceptional operating performance from Adelphia Gateway and Leaf River throughout the winter event. At NJR Energy Services, our long option strategy generated significant value during the volatile conditions created by the winter storm, which led to higher than expected NFE during the period.

We also continue to deliver on our commitment to generate more stable fee-based revenue at that business unit as we received a $73.5 million cash payment associated with the asset management agreements announced in December 2020. Finally, at Clean Energy Ventures, we placed 4 commercial solar projects into service since the end of the fiscal year, growing our installed capacity by approximately 43 megawatts or over 11%. Turning to slide 5. As a result of this outperformance, we are raising our fiscal 2023 NFEPS guidance range by $0.20 to $2.62-$2.72 per share. We are also maintaining our expected long-term NFEPS growth range of 7%-9% from our original 2022 guidance, which is among the highest in our peer group.

As communicated last quarter, we expect to be at the higher end of the range for fiscal 2024. As I mentioned in my opening remarks, New Jersey Natural Gas had a strong quarter of execution, as highlighted on slide 6. We invested $91 million at New Jersey Natural Gas during the first quarter, with over 36% of that CapEx providing near real-time returns. We reported strong customer growth, adding over 2,100 new customers in the first quarter compared to approximately 1,700 in the first quarter last year. We still expect to file our next rate case in fiscal 2024, consistent with the completion of our major technology investments. Moving to slide 7, we continue to see positive momentum at Clean Energy Ventures.

Since the end of fiscal 2022, we have placed over 43 megawatts of new solar projects into service and maintain a robust pipeline of future solar investments. We are encouraged with recent progress at PJM queue reform and New Jersey Solar Policy. In late November, FERC approved PJM's queue reform proposal. Although we are still navigating near-term delays, this process should create efficiencies and greater predictability for solar development. In December, the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities approved the state's solar successor program for projects over 5 megawatts. The goal of incentivizing at least 300 megawatts of annual solar capacity should help to broaden development opportunities in the state. With that, I'll turn the call to Roberto for a review of the financial statements. Roberto.

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

Thank you, Steve, and good morning, everyone. Slide 9 shows the main drivers of our NFE for the 1st quarter of fiscal 2023. We reported NFE of $110.3 million, or $1.14 per share, compared with $65.8 million, or $0.69 per share last year. New Jersey Natural Gas saw an NFE improvement of $3.6 million, primarily due to the impact of new base rates that went into effect on December 1, 2021, a higher contribution to utility gross margin from our BGSS incentive programs, and new customer growth. CEV's NFE improved by $3.2 million, primarily due to higher SREC and electricity sales.

Storage and transportation increased by $3.3 million, largely due to Adelphia Gateway becoming fully operational in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022 and the excellent operational performance at both Adelphia and Leaf River during the quarter. Finally, energy services improved by $35 million due to the execution from our team during Winter Storm Elliott. Turning to our capital plan on slide 10, our projections for 2023 and 2024 are unchanged from the last conference call. Over the next two years, we expect to invest between $1.1 billion and $1.4 billion across the company. We expect to tighten our CapEx projections in future quarters, particularly in the case of CEV, as New Jersey regulatory program approvals and PJM's interconnection timelines become more clear.

This capital deployment is expected to support growth throughout our business units and is consistent with our long-term NFEPS growth target of 7% to 9%. On slide 11, most of our debt is fixed, and we don't have significant maturities in any particular year. As mentioned in our prior call, our NFEPS guidance for fiscal 2023 and our long-term NFEPS growth guidance incorporate the assumption of high interest rates for the foreseeable future. With that, I'll turn the call back to Steve.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Thanks, Roberto. Overall, these results reflect the strength of our complementary portfolio of businesses and the value of our high integrity infrastructure. We are delivering on our strategy of de-risking results, providing a more predictable base of net financial earnings with a growth rate that is the top end of our peer group. We've been able to take advantage of opportunities in energy markets that have resulted in considerable upside to our growth targets in recent years. Finally, I want to thank all of our employees for their hard work and contribution. We expect these efforts will drive our NFE and produce strong cash flows that will support our dividend growth of 7% to 9% per year. With that, I'll now open the call for questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If you'd like to cancel the question, press star followed by two, and please do also remember to unmute your microphone. Our first question is from Christopher Ellinghaus from Siebert Williams Shank. Chris, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Christopher Ellinghaus
Principal and Senior Equity Utility Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co.

G ood morning, everybody. Thanks for the good quarter this morning. A lot of things have happened at, like, EPA and with the IRA. T here's some very attractive markets out there in renewables. I'm thinking about landfill gas generation and RNG. Have any of these things changed your strategic outlook for renewable investments?

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Good morning, Chris. Thanks for the question. I think we've been talking for a long time about the evolving clean energy market and the opportunities that it'll present to a company like ours that has capabilities of developing infrastructure, bringing into service, and certainly earning returns. IRA is in support of that and we've got a solar division. We're developing solar. It's been supportive in that part of the world. W e developed the hydrogen plant, and there's certainly in the IRA significant subsidies towards hydrogen. And we're certainly looking at RNG as well.

Nothing to announce there, but when you put this all together we're well-positioned to take a look and see where it makes sense for us to make investments and grow in this part of the market. Long-winded way of saying yes, we do see opportunities, and we continue to search them out. And certainly as we become more firm in the CapEx that we'll dedicate to that we'll share that with the investors.

Christopher Ellinghaus
Principal and Senior Equity Utility Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co.

Okay, great. There were a couple of things in the quarter that maybe were slightly surprising beyond Winter Storm Elliott's impact. At CEV, you noted in the press release some reduced operating costs. C an you give us a little color on that? O n the storage and transportation side, obviously, Winter Storm Elliott provided some opportunity there, but also you had Adelphia Gateway incrementally. Can you give us any color between the northern and southern assets for the quarter?

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Yeah. I t just points to the value of infrastructure. W e're an energy infrastructure, energy services company, and as you get more demand for energy we're able to profit from that. E nergy services was certainly the headline in their ability to take advantage of that volatility. Y ou also had outsized gains in the utility in their incentive programs. W e saw new customers a Adelphia Gateway signing up for short-term services. Leaf River as well was able to make profits from that. E lectric prices have bumped up in CEV. C ertainly all contributing towards the increases that we announced today.

Christopher Ellinghaus
Principal and Senior Equity Utility Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co.

Can you give us any color on the higher CEV electric revenues? Was that more on the increased megawatt side, or was that more on the commodity electric side, do you think?

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

I'd say in the commodity electric side.

Christopher Ellinghaus
Principal and Senior Equity Utility Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co.

Okay, great. Thanks for the color. I appreciate it.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

All right. Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Our next question is from Richard Sunderland from J.P. Morgan. Richard, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Richard Sunderland
Senior Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Good morning, and thanks for the time today. I know you hit this a little bit already, but I did just want to unpack the guidance raise a little bit more. The, the $0.20 raise, is it the full amount of the outperformance you saw across NJR, storage and transportation and Energy Services? Are there any either offsets to that versus your original plan or a cushion for the remainder of the year that you're leaving, outside of guidance right now?

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

Hey, Rich. Good morning. This is Roberto. How are you? On your question, the performances that you saw was primarily coming from Energy Services, but it was not only coming from Energy Services. It came also from the Utility with higher BGSS incentives, and also from our storage and transportation. It was really broad-based, once again, coming from most of our businesses. As indicated in our remarks, the biggest part came from our marketing business.

Richard Sunderland
Senior Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Okay, understood. Then turning to CEV here, just the first part, I see the 43 megawatts placed in service. I know you referenced the landmark projects there. I also think there was a 100-megawatt change, if I'm reading this correctly, on 2023, 2024 contract and exclusivity. Is that a timing shift across the years laid out here? Or are there other changes on the project front in light of those PJM and New Jersey developments you referenced earlier?

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Rich, I think the way to look at that is that when you look at slide 7, and you look at the total of about one gigawatt of potential investments, and the way that we describe them, that number, or at least on a yearly basis or the periods that we say, it's gonna go up and down. As projects come in, they get completed. As more projects come to exclusivity or some sort of a firmer commitment that we can put them part of this, part of this chart, that these numbers will go up and down.

I think the big numbers to look at are we've got a very robust pipeline of investment at CEV for our solar investment. Also, the other big number is, yeah, 43 megawatts that we're able to put in service. We're investing money. We're completing projects. We're putting them into service, and then we're continuing to develop the pipeline moving forward in this business unit.

Richard Sunderland
Senior Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Got it. That's helpful color. Maybe just a quick follow-up there. Y ou referenced the positive progress from PJM and from New Jersey as well. J ust curious milestones going forward from here or high-level timing expectations. W hat are you watching for at this front for that incremental clarity into the outlook set both the PJM level and the state level? A nything you can offer there on how that might unfold over this year or what else you're looking for from each entity?

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Yeah. I'm gonna ask Amy Cradic to answer that question. She manages our non-utility businesses in CEV, and she can speak to some of the details associated with the PJM process and, certainly in process at the state.

Amy Cradic
Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Non-Utility Businesses, Strategy and External Affairs, New Jersey Resources

I would say that the PJM reform and the BPU competitive solicitation, they're both very positive. Our CapEx projections, they're not solely dependent on those. We're still waiting for other state policy and programs to roll out. I'll give you a few examples. We have PRAC approvals we've spoken about in the past for some of our projects, dual-use, virtual net metering. We'll continue to watch the progress out of that, all positive, and we see additional optionality and opportunity for our pipeline.

Richard Sunderland
Senior Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Got it. Thank you for the time today.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Thanks, Rich.

Operator

Our next question is from Gabe Moreen from Mizuho. Gabe, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Gabe Moreen
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Mizuho

Thank you. Good morning. Can we talk about, I think, the Leaf River expansion potential? I think some midstream names out there have talked about some customer interest now, and I think the value of storage has clearly proven itself out time and again over the last, call it 24 months. Just curious, latest thoughts on what the Leaf expansion is looking like.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Gabe, we've nothing to announce there, but certainly the market dynamics and with the development of LNG along the Gulf Coast t he amount of volatility and balancing that's needed down in that area is evident by the price movements that have taken place. It's certainly a very constructive and supportive market. We're certainly looking where we can make expansion and provided that we've got a customer that can support the capital investment that's there. We've always talked about it in that fashion, but again, nothing to announce, but it's certainly a very supportive market at this point in time.

Gabe Moreen
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Mizuho

Thanks, Steve. Maybe if I can ask a little bit of a multifaceted question here on gas prices having come down so significantly. Can you just talk about impacts to the business, whether bad debt expense, less inflationary pressures, and also just the strategy on hedging gas prices going forward? Because I know that you guys were fairly insulated coming into the winter anyway?

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Yeah. You know what? I think just to talk about the hedging strategy going forward, we've got a pretty rigid hedging strategy that aligns itself well to being able to put fixed price gas into storage well ahead of when volatility would really impact the markets. That's still in place now. I would expect that that would be helpful for us as we roll into our next hedging season, so to speak. Then ultimately gas goes up and down and that volatility can be beneficial to us through prices and certainly through energy services and such.

It just shows that the market's resilient, and our customers will enjoy hopefully lower pricing if it continues in this direction going forward. Certainly supportive of our overall business as an economic way to heat your house and provide energy.

Gabe Moreen
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Mizuho

Got it. Thanks, Steve. If I could just squeeze 1 more in on the 1Q outperformance. Is it fair to say that if S&T outperformance holds, that it's really in 4Q that you'll accrue some O&M expense or G&A rather around additional comp and stuff like that, so that may be an offset to some of the 1Q outperformance here?

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

Yes, you're right. Our expenses related to labor are seasonal and exactly as you pointed out, Q4 tends to be the highest.

Gabe Moreen
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Mizuho

Thanks, Roberto.

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

Thanks, Gabe.

Operator

Our next question is from Sam Margolin from Bank of America. Sam, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Sam Margolin
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, guys. Good morning. Just a quick question on your, on your financing projections here. Just given Q1's outperformance is there any reason why your financing activity projections haven't really changed? Also within that why you're thinking more towards increasing equity issuances over debt, or relative to your previous update?

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

I imagine you're talking about what we're showing in terms of our projection for our cash flows. Even though we have increased our guidance, we feel we're still within the range that we showed there. That's why we haven't changed that. That's number one. Then on your question regarding debt versus equity, as we have stated before, we have no plans to issue any block equity in the near future, and that remains true today.

Sam Margolin
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Thanks, Roberto.

Operator

As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question is from Shar Pourreza from Guggenheim Partners. Shar, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Jamieson Cloonan
Equity Research Associate, Guggenheim Partners

Hi, guys. It's Jamieson on for Shar. Thanks for taking our questions.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Hey, Jamieson.

Jamieson Cloonan
Equity Research Associate, Guggenheim Partners

Just wanted to thank you for the helpful responses so far and wanted to expand and clarify a bit on a couple of the prior answers you provided. First off, I get the seasonal aspect with the fourth quarter, but again, just wanted to expand and clarify. At the gas utility, despite the stronger customer growth and the higher earnings year-over-year for the first quarter. It looks like you lowered guidance for the segment on an actual EPS basis, despite the $0.20 raise for the year for the entire company. But for the segment, it looks like it's about $0.06-$0.08 lower based on the new weightings and the higher guidance.

Could you just remind us of your expectations for inflationary pressures on O&M for the year or any other potential drags that you now expect versus the November original guidance and what was baked into that? I've a follow-up.

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

Yeah. Good morning. It's Roberto. I think what you're referring is to the breakdown, the % breakdown of our NFE by BU that we show in our presentation. For the utility, you're right, that's lower. The reason that's lower is because the whole business is so much higher. On an absolute basis, we do not expect the utility to be lower.

Jamieson Cloonan
Equity Research Associate, Guggenheim Partners

Okay. I just took the 242-252 original and then did that by 55% and also by 60, took those numbers, and then took the revised 262-272 and did that by the 48 and then separately by the 53, and then compared the bottom of each, the top of each, and that's where I came up with the 6-8 lower. I'm not throwing off midpoints or averages or anything. That's. Is there a different way to look at it?

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

Yeah. We can take that offline to explain that.

Jamieson Cloonan
Equity Research Associate, Guggenheim Partners

Sure. No problem.

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

If you were to look at the guidance ranges for utilities based on the original guidance range of $2.42-$2.52 and what we're showing today, you would see that on an absolute basis, there are really no changes.

Jamieson Cloonan
Equity Research Associate, Guggenheim Partners

Okay. Yeah. Let's take it offline then. Yeah. No, I was just coming up with $0.06-$0.08 lower in absolute changes from one to the next. That's okay. Just moving on, as a follow-up, not on the EPS side. After backing out the $20 million contribution from the AMA this quarter and the roughly $22 million contribution in the same quarter a year ago, looks like you had an almost $0.40 improvement year-over-year. M ostly driven by Winter Storm Elliott. I'm specifically looking here just at Energy Services. I get that other parts of the business also contributed to the performance, just narrowing in there.

Given that you only used half of that to raise guidance by, seems like you've got a very, very nice buffer to start the year, something that I'm sure a lot of your peers envy, given a lot of inflationary pressures and other cost pressures that everyone's encountering. Could you walk us through the top couple of potential earnings drags that you had been worried about back in November when you gave guidance and that you are now less so since you presumably still have another $0.20 or so of buffer left for the year?

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

Yeah. Maybe the first thing to address is the buffer you're talking about. The way to think about that is you have timing changes, especially coming from energy services, as you think at how their demand charges happen. They tend to happen, so for the most part, in the second part of the year where there are lower revenues. There is a timing change there affecting these buffers that you're discussing. We're just generally cautious about what could happen right now, especially with electricity prices.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Yeah. I think just to add to that, I might to describe it as a buffer, I think there's seasonality to the number that's here, and I'm not in agreement that there's a buffer associated with our guidance or the way that you've put the numbers together.

Jamieson Cloonan
Equity Research Associate, Guggenheim Partners

Okay. Fair enough. We can follow up offline. Either way, it seems like you're in a good place, and it seems like a good thing to have to kick the year off with. That's why I was asking.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

We'll take it.

Jamieson Cloonan
Equity Research Associate, Guggenheim Partners

Yeah. Absolutely, just a final question on Clean Energy Ventures. You've mentioned in the prepared remarks that you're looking to tighten the reins in the quarters ahead. There's another question on it already, but just to hone in here as a final question, what are the gating items that you're currently waiting on? Just so we have a better sense of timing, when do you expect to have the level of visibility that you require in order to be able to narrow the range for the next fiscal year and the year thereafter?

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

When Amy answered the question before she talked about queue reform and PJM and certainly some of the programs in the state of New Jersey, but mentioned that f or the project pipeline that we've shown there they're not solely dependent on those being resolved. We've got a capital program that we feel confident that we'll be able to execute, and certainly it'd be positive developments to get those other programs and the queue reform completed. But again, not solely dependent on at least new programs taking place at the state in order to get our capital invested. I hope that answers your question. If not please clarify.

Jamieson Cloonan
Equity Research Associate, Guggenheim Partners

Gotcha. Yeah, no, just was trying to get a sense of whether it's a next quarter or two quarters from now or that thing. I think that covers it, and I can follow up further offline.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Okay.

Jamieson Cloonan
Equity Research Associate, Guggenheim Partners

Thanks. Thank you very much, and good start to the year, guys. Congrats.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Travis Miller from Morningstar. Travis, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Travis Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, Resources, Morningstar

Good morning, everyone. Thank you.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Hey, Travis.

Travis Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, Resources, Morningstar

Apologize if you touched on this earlier, wonder if you could talk about how the AMA performed during the quarter. How much of that contributed to that energy services? Was there volatility in there, like you expected or didn't expect? Just wondering on the AMAs, how that performed in the quarter.

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

Yeah.

Hey, Travis, this is Roberto. The AMA, we said before that for the year the expected revenues are going to be similar to those of last year. For Q1, those revenues were $20 million. We received all the cash corresponding to the AMA origin ating in Q1. That was about $73 million. To answer your question, in a nutshell, it performed exactly as we expected.

Travis Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, Resources, Morningstar

Okay. Do you have in place during the year any optionality around those where you could get any kind of, either betterment or detriment?

Roberto Bel
Senior Vice President and CFO, New Jersey Resources

On this specific AMA, as we have discussed, this is basically a pretty much a fixed price contract. No.

Travis Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, Resources, Morningstar

Okay. Yep, that's what I thought. Okay. Thank you very much.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Sure. Thanks, Travis.

Operator

We currently have no further questions. I will now hand back to the management team.

Stephen Westhoven
President and CEO, New Jersey Resources

Thank you. I'd like to thank all of you for joining us this morning. As a reminder, a recording of this call is available for replay on our website. As always, we appreciate your interest and investment in NJR. Goodbye. Have a good morning.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines. Have a good day.

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