Earnings Call: Q1 2011

May 13, 2010

Good afternoon. Thank you for holding. I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Harris, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you, sir. You may begin. Thank you, operator. Good afternoon and welcome to NVIDIA's conference call for the Q1 of fiscal 20 11. With me on the call today from NVIDIA are Jensen Huang, President and Chief Executive Officer and David White, Chief Financial Officer. Begin, I would like to remind you that today's call is being webcast live on NVIDIA's Investor Relations website and is also being recorded. A replay of the call will be available via telephone until May 20, 2010, and the webcast will be available for replay until our conference call to discuss our financial results for our Q2 of fiscal 2011. The content of today's conference call is NVIDIA's property and cannot be reproduced or transcribed without our prior written consent. During the course of this call, we may make forward looking statements based on current expectations. These forward looking statements are subject to a number of significant risks and uncertainties and our actual results may differ materially. For a discussion of factors that could affect our future financial results and business, please refer to the disclosure of today's earnings release, our Form 10 ks for the fiscal period ended January 31, 2010, and the reports we may file from time to time on Form 8 ks filed with the SEC. All of our statements are made as of today, May 13, on information available to us today. As of today and except for paperbacks required by law, we assume no obligation to update any such statements. Unless otherwise noted, all references to market research and market share numbers throughout the call come from Mercury Research or John Pette Research. One final note, our Annual Shareholder Meeting is next week on May 19. For the first time, shareholders will be able to vote and ask questions online during the meeting and please see our website for more information. With that, let's begin. We are back in the high end of the InfuSystems segment. In April, we shipped our GeForce GTX 480 and 470 GPUs, the first products based on our next generation CUDA GPU architecture code named Fermi. The GeForce GTX 40 and 470 GPUs were designed from the ground up to excel at tessellation, the defining feature of DirectX 11. Geometric fidelity is one of the most important new looks for the next generation graphics. So instead of just being compatible with DX11, we created a DX11 tessellation monster. GTX 480 is 8x faster than the competition. Reception for the new GeForce 400 series amongst gamers and press has been phenomenal. Just last week, the GTX 480 was validated as the fastest GPU in the world with Kingpin and Chamino, 2 world class overclockers used the 480 to break world records on the FutureMark 3DMark Vantage Hall of Fame. GTX 40 is DX11 done right. Mihorin 3 d stated, The GTX 400 lineup each tessellation and ray tracing for breakfast and has the advantage in every benchmarking game using those technologies so far as it's not a hard call. Futurelooks.com wrote, There is no question that the NVIDIA GTX 480 is the king of tessellation. The GTX 400 series GPUs also provides a significant higher computational capability, which will allow gamers game developers to increase the level of physics realism via our physics API. With our leadership position in DX11 combined with the incredible experience that physics and 3 d vision provide, we expect to take back share in the Anthosys segment. In the Q1, we shipped a few 100,000 units as yields have exceeded our expectations. The 4 80 and 4 70 are widely available worldwide and continue to sell out on a weekly basis. More importantly, being back in the enthusiast segment is a positive driver of revenue and profitability growth. We began shipments of the new GeForce 320M integrated chipset to Apple for the latest 13 inches MacBook Pro. The 320m delivers up to an 80% performance increase over the previous GeForce 900m integrated chipset. In addition, the new 15 inches and 17 inches MacBook Pro both come standard with the new GeForce GT330M, the fastest graphics ever in a Mac notebook. In addition, the 15 and 17 inches notebooks come with switchable graphics. That's another powerful example of how switchable graphics is quickly becoming a standard requirement in notebooks. We now have approximately 70 Optimus design wins, of which 11 are in production today and 50 are expected to be available in the market and ready for this year's back to school cycle. We continue to believe that Optimus has the potential to expand the market for discrete GPUs by increasing the GPU attach rate in notebooks. Our Quadro business continues to recover and in fact is ahead of where we anticipate it would be at this time. The recession delayed upgrades in 2,009 and with the significant enhancements made in both hardware and software within that timeframe, we believe it will drive a more aggressive upgrade cycle. For example, Adobe CS4 penetration was well behind CS3 due to the recession, creating meaningful pent up demand for CS5. We are anticipating that the combination of a healthy upgrade cycle and the addition of new markets will take our Quadro business to a higher level of growth. During the Q1, we announced that a range of NVIDIA Quadro Professional Graphics Premiere Pro CS5. This version of Adobe Premiere Pro leverages the parallel processing architecture of NVIDIA GPUs via the new Adobe Mercury Play Back Engine to allow users to create compelling multi layer project and preview them in real time. Tesla achieved record revenue and Q1 should be the first of many record quarters to come. Fermi has unlocked new demand for Tesla. We are experiencing heightened activity in a number of areas such as standard OEM SKU. A number of OEMs including Super Micro, Appro, Tayon, Cray and Bull have already announced OEM servers with more Tier 1s to follow. Finally, we achieved the major milestone this quarter. We completed and qualified our first commercially available smartphone. Today, Microsoft is shipping the industry's first phone based on Tegra. We are now the 1st PC technology company in history to cross the chasm from computing to mobile computing. Continue to watch this space. We have multiple next gen Tegra design wins in smartphones and tablets coming, which should be announced later this year. Our core profit drivers, high end GPUs and professional solutions are performing well. And with evidence from a number of key early indicators for our growth businesses discussed today, we continue to be optimistic about our prospects about our prospects in 2010 and beyond. With that, let me turn the call over to David. Thanks, Mike. Q1 was another good quarter, driven by the ongoing recovery of enterprise spending, the shipment of Fermi based products for desktop GPU and high performance computing, new product ramps at Apple and a very strong notebook market. Revenue was $1,000,000,000 up 2% sequentially. Our GAAP gross margin was 45.6 percent, GAAP operating expenses were $309,000,000 and GAAP net income was $137,600,000 or $0.23 diluted share. The core GPU business was flat quarter over quarter, supply constraints are finally easing. In particular, yields of our high end Fermi based GPUs were much higher than expected leading to good availability of our new GTX 480 and 470 GPUs and Tesla high performance computing products. Quadro grew strongly once again and is now approaching recession levels. Tesla had a record quarter, which together with our Quadro business contributed to higher overall gross margin in the quarter. Cash, cash equivalents $36,700,000 from the 4th quarter. Our outlook for the Q2 of fiscal 2011, revenue is expected to be down seasonally 3% to 5%. GAAP gross margin expected to increase to 46% to 47%. GAAP operating expenses are expected to be flat. Our tax rate of 12% to 14%, assuming a renewal of the U. S. R and D tax credit and otherwise a tax rate of 14% to 16%. That concludes our prepared remarks. We will now take questions. Our first question comes from the line of Tim Luke of Barclays Capital. Please proceed with your question. Thank you so much. If I may, could you guys elaborate on your comments associated with the increased availability of of capacity, particularly on the higher nodes? And also your comment with respect to yield and how you believe that may begin to impact your margin profile going forward? Thank you so much, David. Yes, Tim. Our you'll recall that when back in the Q4 and earlier times of last fiscal year, when we were ramping other products on the 40 nanometer node, we had many challenges with yields and our ability to supply the market with adequate product. And we really hit kind of a turning point somewhere around the December, January timeframe where we began seeing predictable improvements. And those improvements Q1 that we launched Fermi, those wafer starts were done some time ago, at a time when margins work as good as what they actually wound up paying. And so our margin progression wound up being exceeding our expectations. And as a result of exceeding expectations, we wound up having more die available to sell. Now given that Fermi only launched in the last 3, 4 weeks of the quarter, there's only so much capacity you've got in line when you exceed expectations like that. And we shipped everything we could get through the back end and that contributed to certainly the quarter and our margins. And going forward, we expect Fermi to continue to be an important element of our product mix. And as a result of that, that you see our guidance of gross margin going up quarter over quarter as a result. Just on that, if I may, just as one follow-up, David. Your gross margin obviously going up with the revenue slightly down. The key catalyst for that is the Fermi ramp, is it? Or are there other elements that you or Mike might be able to elaborate on just on the strength of the gross margin in the coming quarter? Well, Fermi is a substantial piece of that. I mean, our Tesla business is still continuing to grow. And so it will become a bigger piece of the mix as well. But largely, it's Fermi and Fermi and Tesla as well as Fermi and Graphics. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Wang of Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question. Hey, terrific. Thank you. I was just hoping you guys could comment, when we look at your revenue guidance here of down 3% to 5%, I know that you think that that's actually in line with the seasonality here. But what are some of the moving parts behind that? Because I mean, clearly, we're starting to see Integra starting to ramp a bit here. I just wanted to get some of your thoughts just in terms of the workstation, Force and maybe even some color on chipsets? Well, our chipset business is doing well. As Mike mentioned in his comments, we launched the 320M this last quarter. That product we expect to be shipping for quite a period of time. So that business is actually doing very well right now. As it relates to the other elements and the seasonality you referred to, we experience seasonality just like our competitors do in the industry and we think our 3% to 5% down is consistent with what we typically experienced. Now notwithstanding that, we're expecting Fermi to be very strong this quarter as we continue to ramp that product and actually have an opportunity to ship Fermi throughout the quarter, which we didn't obviously have the opportunity to do so last quarter. So that mitigates it to some extent, but we overall we feel our guidance is relatively I just I just wanted to get your thoughts in terms of how you think market share is going to go into trend given the supply dynamics you just give an update on what's your sense of the demand out there is and of course your competitive positioning? Well, we haven't been in the high end segment because of Fermi being delayed for over 2 quarters now. And so my expectation is that we're going to gain share. We gained share last quarter because of our increasing share in notebooks. Some of that could have been attributed to OPTIMIST and looking forward, we expect OPTIMIST to continue to gain adoption. So we're optimistic about OPTIMUS. So between the desktop high returning into the high end and continue to do well in the notebook segments, my sense is that our share should be rather healthy. Okay. And I guess just a part of the demand, we're still seeing kind of seasonal demand here, anything out of the ordinary? Well, for the core parts of the market, we're expecting seasonality. However, we're growing into with Fermi into the high end segments that we've now been in for a couple of quarters. So there's quite a bit of pent up demand that we're seeing out there. So we're ramping as hard as we can and as fast as we can and trying to keep up with the demands for our customers. So we're looking forward to getting back into the high end. But the rest of the business that's we would characterize as mainstream business should experience seasonality. Okay, great. Thanks so much. Yes, thanks a lot. Our next question comes from the line of Michael McConnell of Pacific Crest Securities. Please proceed with your question. Thank Jensen, last conference call you had talked about Fermi and they would be hitting full stride in Q2 and that would offset seasonality, you guys have guided now seasonal. Has there been any change regionally speaking with demand, any impact, maybe Europe or any impact with memory pricing that has led you guys to back off a little bit and guide seasonal for Q2? Well, we don't know anymore or any less about what's happening out in the larger market than anybody else. And there is obviously in the overall larger market, there is some concern is of Fermi is certainly as we expected. So, want to see how it plays out here. I mean, these are couple of the I mean, with respect to Q2, those are the 2 dynamics that you're looking at, seasonality on the one hand, on the other hand, we're ramping new products for into a new segment that we've been out of for a couple of quarters. And so we'll see how it turns out. And then just looking at the Mercury data for the last couple of quarters, I think your units discrete market? The biggest factor in discrete market? The biggest factor in the growth of discrete graphics is China. The China market is the fastest growing notebook PC market. It also happens to be the market where we have the highest adoption of discrete GPUs. We believe the reason for that is because the Chinese market is much more sensitive to reviews of products and they're much more the consumers are scrutinized their purchasing decision much more than elsewhere around the world. And they tend to be much more value conscious. I mean, they will go out and buy what is the best performance per dollar versus what brand OEMs that it comes from. And so the GeForce adoption and the inclusion of GeForce is a huge factor for the Chinese market. And so we're seeing very good adoption in China. The GeForce brand is also really popular in China. And the reason for that is because the Chinese consumers spend a lot of time online and video is a big part of how they enjoy their computers. Video games and enjoying movies and multimedia is a big part of how people use PCs. And so that's probably the biggest factor for the growth of discrete GPUs. Now looking into the summer, we're expecting OPTIMUS to be very successful. We've shipped at this point only a handful of OPTIMUS notebooks and I think there's 70 or so projects in the pipeline and we're expecting the vast majority of them to go into production for back to school. And so Optimus has turned out to have been a very big success for us because the value proposition is just so clear. You get benefits of the longest possible battery life when you're using light computing And whenever you use it, whenever you would like performance for your PC, Optimus instantaneously turns on the GPU and gives you amazing performance. And so having that uncompromising benefit in the PC and the notebook for the very first time has been has really resonated with the marketplace. So I'm hoping that our notebook business continues to do well and we'll see how it turns out. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Thanks a lot, Mike. Our next question comes can you talk a little bit about the handset opportunity for Tegra? David mentioned the Microsoft milestone. I guess I'm curious within your design win base, how many designs are in the pipeline when you're winning sockets, why you're winning? When you're losing, maybe as importantly, why you're losing, is it mostly Snapdragon you're seeing out there? Thanks. Well, we're pretty excited about TEGRA as you can imagine. The our 1st generation strategy, we wanted to focus on 1 operating system. Because it was our new it was we were a new player in this marketplace and we focused all of our energy around the Microsoft Zune and Microsoft Win Mobile. And I'm delighted with what we were able build. It demonstrates that NVIDIA has created an architecture that's extremely low power, while being very high performance and that we know how to build phone processors. It's a big deal. It took us a long time to figure it out. And it's been a long term investment. And so the Microsoft Kin and the Zune HD are the results of that 1st generation. On the 2nd generation, we were able to expand to focus a lot of our energy around Android. And although it made sense for the 1st generation Androids to use available phone processors, the follow on generations of Android are really going to go after performance. And iPhones are out there, the iPhone 4 gs is coming, the iPad is obviously a revolutionary product. The bar is pretty high for all of the mobile players. And so they need a processor that can keep up with the A four, if not be much better than what the A four can do because they have to take on the leader in the space. And so I think 2nd generation Tegra is going to do incredibly well because Android is doing incredibly well. So we're going to come to market with the 2nd generation Integra with the 3rd generation Android. And so that's our focus now, which is the and I think it comes together at the end of the year. And we've talked about smartphones, we've talked about tablets. We have a very large number of designs in pipe and flight. And so we're looking forward to starting in the 3rd quarter and Q4, many design wins to show up in production. So just to be clear, in the 3rd, Q4 back end of this year, we begin to see NVIDIA powered Android handsets on the market or that's when there'll be a slew of design sockets available for you? No, we've been already working on those design sockets. Great. And is it mostly Qualcomm that you're competing against? Thanks. There's really only prior to Tegra, there are only 2 application processor companies out in the mobile space, right? Basically, it's Qualcomm and TI and they both make wonderful application processors. Our differentiation and our contribution to this space is where multimedia high resolution snappy graphics is really necessary. And the 1st generation smartphones had pretty low resolution displays. And so snappy graphics and high performance multimedia and high resolution just wasn't as much of an issue. But as you know, with Ipads and next generation smartphones, resolution is a huge issue. And you need to have very snappy graphics with a 10x7 display, if not even bigger than that, even higher resolution than that. You're just not going to do that with an application processor that's not designed for that. And so that's our contribution and that's our differentiation and that's what people are seeing out in the market. Our next question comes from the line of Ambrish Srivastava of BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Hi, thank you. Just to make sure that I understand your guidance in the context of capacity and yield, Should we assume that there are no constraints anymore and all the yield issues have been resolved? Let's see, I think the comment that David was making is that the yield has improved a lot. And TSMC has done a fabulous job improving the yields of 40 nanometer since August of last year when we first ramped it to now. The yield and the number of wafers that they're able to produce compounded has really helped a lot. And so I think that with respect to manufacturability of 40 nanometers, I think we are surely out of the woods. I think we can now officially say that. We are clearly out of the woods. And I think that's all David was trying to say, that 40 nanometers is at TSMC is now a world class node and the manufacturability of it is very, very good. And so we're delighted with the execution from TSMC and they've just done a fabulous job. Respect to supply, the challenge is that more and more customers are getting into 40 nanometers as well. And so we certainly aren't swimming in 40 nanometer supply. I mean, we are constrained here and there. I wish we had more Fermis. I wish we had more GPUs of all kinds. And so there's still not enough 40 nanometer supply for the entire world. And so I expect that 40 nanometer supply will remain constrained for some time. Sorry, Jen. So the guidance implies that there is some supply constraints that has not allowed you to meet demand? Or is that there is a balance between supply and demand and what you're seeing is just normal seasonality and that's why the guidance? We're seeing seasonality. Yes, we were pretty clear that Q2's guidance is seasonality. It's seasonality offset by the ramp of Fermi. And so we're not going to know how it all balances out until the end of this quarter. But those are the 2 vectors, if you will. Seasonality in the mainstream market and the ramp of Fermi into GeForce, into Tesla and into Quantum. Okay. Thanks for your patience in answering that. One real quick follow-up. Last earnings call, you had alluded to the channel inventory and how it had come back up by a week to about 5 weeks. Where are we now on the channel inventory? Thanks. The channel inventory at the moment looks healthy. But you have to look at it across all the geographies and you have to look at it across the segments. The biggest lever for Q2 for us is growing into the performance segment that we've not been in for over 2 quarters. And so ramping into the performance segment is just the number one most important thing that we need to do right now. And obviously, since we've not been in it for a couple of quarters, the channel inventory for performance segment GPUs is very lean. And so we're going to be ramping into pent up demand here for quite some time. But there's no blended number that you'd like to share with us? I don't have anything to share with you right now. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy of Thomas Weisel. Please proceed with your question. Hi, thanks for taking my question. I wonder if you could give a little more detail on the inventory. Is it new product, product that didn't get packaged or if you could give a little more details on that? Yes, Kevin, I think in the prior comments and in the CFO commentary, we'd explain it really is associated primarily with GTX for 7,080. We ramped that product. We were favorably surprised with nicer yields than what we anticipated. And given the fact that that ramp was all occurring at the end of the quarter, there was just a limited amount of capacity we had at the back end to get everything out that we would have liked to have gotten out. And so hence when the quarter ended, we had some inventory of Fermi dye when it be packaged. Okay. And are you comfortable with this level or do you expect it will come down next quarter or for a new product ramp, do you typically increase the inventory? Well, as Jensen was saying, right now, channel inventory is very dry for product from us, particularly in that high end of the segment. Our inventory generally would normally be the same way on a new product ramp. But I think it will stabilize pretty much over the quarter for us and at the end we'll see what the inventory is at the end of the second quarter. Okay. Thank you very much. Our next question comes from the line of Shawn Webster of Macquarie. Please proceed with your question. Yes, thank you. Nice work on the gross margins guys. Thanks Sean. Yes, just to close on the inventory, should we assume that channel inventory did increase globally? And did you David, in terms of the outlook for inventory, did you just say that you expect it to be flat or up or slightly down or? No, I don't think I gave an indication other than the fact that we thought that our inventory issues with Fermi at the end of the quarter would naturally work their way out as we fulfill demand in the channel and with other inventory situation is that we ramped we're ramping into firming and we have a whole lot of ramping to do yet. The back end cycle time, the amount of testing that we have to do for Fermi GPUs are longer than mainstream products because they're just much, much larger GPUs. The Fermi GPU as you know is some 3,000,000,000 transistors. And so there's a lot of testing to do and it takes longer to sort it, it takes longer to assemble it, it takes longer to test it and then we do final system level testing on the GPUs before we ship them. And so that entire back end cycle time is many weeks. And so all of the dies that came out as we're ramping and you could imagine the curve on the ramp that we're ramping up right now, a lot of the die that came out of the fab, we couldn't get through the back end before the end of the quarter. And so that's all part of inventory. Now, of course, we're ramping into a fresh market and a fresh new product and there's a lot of pent up demand. And so, we just need to keep the pressure on it and just keep cranking through it. And how much as a percentage of your GPU revenues was 40 nanometer this last quarter? Quite a bit, probably. It grew quite nicely. And when you look at Fermi coming into the mix along with our other 40 nanometer products, it grew pretty sizably this quarter. And when you saw the yield upside, was that across your whole range of 40 nanometer or was it primarily Fermi driven? It was across the whole 40 nanometer range. Okay. And then maybe one last one for me. Can you share with us trends in pricing for your core GPU business, either units or pricing sequentially? Our ASP trend should be going up because we're returning back to the high end part of the market for the first time in 6 months plus. And so I would expect our ASP to be trending up at the moment. Okay. Thank Our next question comes from the line of James Schneider of Goldman Sachs and Company. Please proceed with your question. Good afternoon and thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if we could start off on the OpEx side for a second. David, I think OpEx was ticked up just a little bit in the quarter. Are there any events like legal spending or any litigation that would cause OpEx to be up materially in the next couple of quarters? Or any litigation that would cause OpEx to be up materially in the next couple of quarters? Or are you trying to keep that as flat as possible? Okay. Well, our objective is to, is to, is to, is to, is to be flat. That's what we've consistently stated and so forth. When you look at our expenses, there are some expenses we can control and there are some expenses we can't control. And as you look at our and there are some expenses we can't control. And as you look at our operating expenses in the second quarter and the fact they are like you said, modestly up, it really was a result of 2 things that were really not largely in our control, one of which has to do with employee exercises of stock options where we have to pay payroll taxes on those as they exercise them. The second had to do with legal expenses, which you just mentioned. As you know that we have a case going on between ourselves and Intel right now that's certainly in full swing of depositions and so forth, which is driving and discovery, which is driving a significant amount of legal expenses, but also you have to add on top of that the fact the FTC has an investigation going on as well. And that investigation is entirely outside of our control, but yet we get we have to support with depositions and discovery and so forth. And so those are the 2 things that are really driving our expenses and considering that we're roughly at the peak of this, we don't see it tailing off this next quarter, which is why we guided flat. Perfect. And as a follow-up, could you address why accounts receivable jumped so meaningfully in the quarter? Well, we launched 2 products at the very end of the quarter, Fermi being one of them, right? And when you launch those products at the end of the quarter, you end up with receivables that you collect on the next quarter. So it's primarily all related to launch activities. So is all the fact that the new products were still back end loaded in the quarter? We launched them at the end of quarter and hence they are back end loaded at the end of the quarter, yes. Perfect. Thanks so much. Thanks, Jim. Our next question comes from the line of Doug Friedman of Broadpoint AMTECH. Please proceed with your question. Great. Thanks for taking my question, guys. David, can you talk a little bit about where we are in the MCP ramp down and how you guys are going manage that ramp down? Is there any cost savings that will occur as those revenues go away? Well, I don't certainly there is cost savings. What we've tended to do is we've tended to redeploy resources into other areas of our business where we have other needs in such areas as computing and mobile and so forth. As it relates to the vector of MCP in terms of how it's doing and so forth, we've combined that business with GPU organizationally and also financially. And we've indicated that over time, we expect the MCP business to go down and we expect the discrete business to go up and that is progressing according to plan. But MCP is not as I said earlier, MCP is not ramping down. We launched our 320M product and it's doing quite well. We expect it to continue to do well. Okay. If I was to move on and look at another segment of your could have to revenues and margins? Margins are about corporate average right now. 3 d Vision just had a record quarter. 3 d Vision will likely have another record quarter and followed by another record quarter is my guess. This is at this point, it's pretty clear to everybody just as the future of TV is 3 d, the future of PCs is 3 d. And so if you would like to have a gaming PC or a multimedia PC and it has 3 d Blu Ray, certainly it should come with 3 d vision or some 3 d glasses that you can enjoy it with. And so I think that this is going to become part of a standard offering of consumer PCs in the future. And so this is a great growth opportunity for us and one that we're really proud of. Yes, Doug, I would just make one comment to add to Jensen's and that is, you've got to sell a lot of classes to change the needle here at NVIDIA. I think the more important thing is the impact that 3 d has on our graphics business and the fact that the pull that it creates for our graphics products. I think it will have more impact there than it will necessarily the glasses per se. Great. Thanks for Our next question comes from the line of Arnab Chandra of ROTH Capital. Please proceed with your question. Thank you. I have a couple of questions. First of all, if you could talk a little bit about gross margins, it seems like as your mix improves, your gross margins continue to go higher. In fact, it might be closer at an all time high. Is that continuing to occur as mix improves? Or are we getting close to kind of a sort of peak here? And then I have one follow-up question. Hey, Arne. Well, we don't we haven't guided to where we think ultimately we think our gross margins ought to be. But ultimately, NVIDIA's gross margins ought to be in the mid-50s to high-50s. That's really where we ought to go. And the reason for that is because an increasing amount of our business is highly differentiated business where software, middleware and other peripherals are such a large part of it. And as we continue to grow our Quadro business, as we continue to grow our Tesla business, as we continue to grow our Tegra business, where software is just such a large part of it, my expectation is that the gross margins will continue to reflect that. For each one of the businesses that I just described, the gross margins are better than what we are as a corporate standard. 2 thirds of our company's revenues come from businesses that I've just described and or profits come from our from business that I've just described, even though it doesn't represent nearly that much of the total revenues. And so my sense is that over time as those businesses grow our margins are drift towards it. And mixed with mainstream G Force business, which will continue to be competitive, I think that the an overall average that's north of 50% is logical for our company. And so we just have to get there. You know that, Arne, we've been transforming our company step by step over the last 3 or 4, 5 years. And moving away from just offering a fast chip to offering solutions and software that differentiates us and adds a lot more value to our customers. 3 d vision for lot more value to GeForce. CUDA is another area of innovation and only works with GeForce. And so over time between those kind of things and many, many examples that related to Quadro and Tesla and Tegra, those value added ideas that we bring to the marketplace will be valued, we hope. So I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I heard you correctly. Did you say mid to high 50s not 40s? I'm kind of having a little bit of a shock here. So I just want to make sure That's where we should be. And maybe another way of saying that is where we are right now should not be our peak and we don't expect it to be our peak. And if the mix of our business continues to grow as you were referring to earlier, then they should naturally take us above 50%, right? Tesla is above 50%, Quadro is above 50%. And so if those businesses continue to grow, we should certainly expect our gross margins to grow. Okay. Well, just one follow-up question then. It seems like given you have all these new products ramping, shouldn't that offset seasonality? I mean, you're still guiding seasonally when or is there something going on the end market that makes a little Q2 is Q2 and everybody has the same feelings about the overall market at the moment as we do, I guess, there's some amount of cautiousness and there's some amount of enthusiasm. And so I think that for the core for the mainstream part of our business to be seasonal and for us to drive growth through new products, I think that's sensible and we're comfortable with the guidance. And if it turns out different at the end of the quarter, then we can all rejoice. Thanks, Justin. Yes, thanks a lot, Arnaud. Our next question comes from the line of Glenn Young of Citigroup. Please proceed with your question. Thanks. A couple of quarters ago or even last quarter you talked about the idea that you were under shipping demand. And now you're guiding for normal seasonal in the July quarter. So that business that you were under shipping, is that something that was sort of temporal, right, it was sort of associated with the timeframe that we're at or is that lost business to competition or how should we think about that? Well, the market overall was pretty supply constrained on 40 nanometer. So, I don't know that we lost anything to the competition. But I think some demand is I mean, when you went to a PC store and you couldn't buy a PC, you bought probably something else or maybe you waited. But 40 nanometers was surely supply constrained and we're still supply constrained in certain segments of that, of the 40 nanometer product line. But at the moment, we see the marketplace as being relatively balanced. And looking into Q2, parts of the market is going to be seasonal and parts of our business is going to be high growth. And so we're just going to have to see how it turns out at the end of the quarter. Okay. As we think about the evolution of Fermi across the larger price stack at NVIDIA over the course of the next few quarters, how should we think about that? What's pattern we should expect to see? When does Fermi sort of permeate the entire price there? We are sampling Fermi's from entry level notebook all the way to supercomputer Fermi's. So there are many versions that we're already sampling. So we'll go into production with it as soon as our customers go into production. And will gross margins be affected as that spreads out? What's the what's margins be affected as that spreads out? How does the pattern of that coincide with the pattern of these sampling devices? Well, we're guiding gross margins up next quarter. Okay, all right, fair enough. Great. Thanks. Thanks Michael. Our next question comes from the line of Craig Berger of Friedman, Billings and Ramsey and Company. Please proceed with your question. Thanks guys. Let's see here. I guess one question I have is as we look into the back half of the year, should we still be looking for normal seasonality despite aligned with consumption shipments here? Thanks. The back half of the year, as I look at the back half of the year, I see that we will have more Fermi's in production. I see that Tesla, our GPU for servers is going to ramp up substantially because of OEMs going into production. This is the 1st Tesla that has been designed standard into OEM servers into many, many OEM servers. I see that the second half, second half our Tesla smartphone and excuse me, Tegra smartphone and coupled that with seasonality out of the pretty good. And so we need to make sure that we're very thoughtful about continuously to improve our yields and ramping up continuously to improve our yields and ramping up production. Next question on TEGRA. It obviously was down seasonally quite a bit in the Q1. When do some of those design wins kick in? Who are you really focusing on to drive second half growth? Greg, can I just Q1 for TEGRA was not down? The segment that it was in was down primarily related to other non mobile businesses that roll up into that consumer space, but TEGRA was actually up quarter over quarter. Can you tell us how much? We're really not. I think we've indicated in the past that when TEGRA becomes meaningful towards significant, we'll break it out. But at this point, it's pretty small. I see. Thanks for that clarification. And then just magnitude and timing of growth and maybe which customers you're really focusing on for the second half? We So we'll talk about that when we go into production in the second half. So we'll talk about that when we go into production in the second half. The thing that we would love to talk about is the products that have already gone into production. And I'm delighted to see Microsoft can get into production and all the innovative new products, new features that they brought to the marketplace. And it's a new perspective in the mobile phone market and so I'm excited about that. Last question on the chipset side, I know you just launched some new products. Do you still expect that Do you still expect that segment even though you're not splitting it out, do you still expect that segment to be flattish this year? And kind of when do you see the inflection point in revenues maybe beginning to fall off in that segment? Thanks, point in revenues maybe beginning to fall off in that segment? Thanks so much. We expect the chipset business to do very nicely in the next 12 months at least. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Craig. Our next question comes from the line of Alex Gana of JMP Securities. Please proceed with your question. Thanks very much. I know you mentioned the 330 in the MacBook Pros and the the benefits they bring. I'm also noticing in the Windows environment a pretty nice footprint for your Quadro product. Has Quadro in the mobile space been a meaningful driver to date? Is that improving? And is either 40 nanometer or Fermi coming in that line improving the outlook for that? Quadro has a very, very large share of the overall workstation market both desktop and notebook. And the notebook is a new growth area for Quadro because just as we do like to bring our work home with us, so do people who design things. And so whether it's video editing, which a lot of people a lot of video artists like to do it on their laptops or designing tennis shoes to cars. The ability to bring their work wherever they go is a very important capability for them. And so we see more and more people both having a workstation on their desk at work as well as being able to take it with them in their notebook. And in the future, we are expecting the server to be a big part of our workstation business as well. Quadro into servers either in the form of with display or Tesla and the servers as a rendering remote rendering capability is a new growth opportunity us. More and more people would like to put their work in the cloud and be able to share that work and collaborate with people all over the world. And so we see those 2 drivers to continue to grow the Quadro market. But the notebook is a very important segment for us and we have a large footprint there and it's a market that I expect to continue to grow. And if I could follow-up, you mentioned you say you don't preannounce your customers' products, but you also highlight a good roadmap for Fermi that's sampling. Could we see products or Fermi broaden its architecture as early as E3 or is it more of a Computex back to school type of timeframe? Fermi for E3, well Fermi is the name of the architecture and it goes into 3 different product lines. The first one is GeForce and that one is in large volume production now. We're ramping that very hard and we've got a lot of ramping to do. We've been because we were late with Fermi, we were out of this marketplace for some 6 months to maybe 8 months. And so there's a very large pent up demand for high end products out there. And so we need to grow that segment, go back into that segment as hard as we can. The second is Tesla. Fermium is used for GPUs in the server and they're used for computational processors for supercomputers, oil and gas seismic analysis to financial risk calculations. And so that is also growing. We just had a record quarter and our expectation is we'll have yet another record quarter. And then the 3rd segment of Fermi is Quadro. Quadro is our workstation graphic solution and it's used by people who create movies, make movies as well as design cars. And so those three products will launch in the appropriate customers and in the appropriate conferences. Okay. Thanks. Congratulations. Nice quarter. Yes. Thanks, Mark. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Mike O'Hara. Please go ahead. Thanks everyone for joining us. We look forward to talking to you about next quarter's