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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Nov 3, 2021

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the ONEOK third quarter 2021 earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Andrew Ziola. Please go ahead, sir.

Andrew Ziola
VP of Investor Relations, ONEOK

Thank you, Todd, and welcome to ONEOK's third quarter 2021 earnings call. We issued our earnings release and presentation after the markets closed yesterday, and those materials are on our website. After our prepared remarks, we'll be available to take your questions. Statements made during this call that might include ONEOK's expectations or predictions should be considered forward-looking statements and are covered by the safe harbor provision of the Securities Acts of 1933 and 1934. Actual results could differ materially from those projected in forward-looking statements. For a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to our SEC filings. Just a reminder, before we turn it over to the conference coordinator for Q&A, we ask you that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up in order to fit in as many of you as we can.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Pierce Norton, President and Chief Executive Officer. Pierce?

Pierce Norton
President and CEO, ONEOK

Thanks, Andrew, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate your interest and investment in ONEOK, and thank you for taking your time to join us today. With me on today's call is Walt Hulse, Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President, Strategy and Corporate Affairs, and Kevin Burdick, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer. Also available to answer your questions are Sheridan Swords, Senior Vice President, Natural Gas Liquids, and Chuck Kelly, Senior Vice President, Natural Gas. Yesterday, we announced strong third quarter earnings results and increased our 2021 financial guidance expectations. Our third quarter results were driven by NGL and natural gas volume growth on our system, the result of increasing producer activity and improving market demand. As world economics continue to recover from the pandemic, we're seeing demand continue to recover for natural gas and NGLs.

We're focused on helping to meet that increasing demand for these critical energy products, particularly as we head into the winter months. As we look forward, we continue to coordinate with our customers on future growth expectations and are focused on innovation throughout the company. In September, we announced a greenhouse gas emissions reduction target, marking another major environmental milestone for our company. Our goal is to achieve an absolute 30% reduction or 2.2 million metric tons of our combined Scope 1 and 2 emissions by 2030 compared with 2019 levels.

We will undertake a number of strategic emission reduction measures to meet this target, including the further electrification of certain natural gas compression assets, implementing additional methane mitigation through best management practices, system optimizations, and collaborating with our utility providers to increase the use of low-carbon energy for our operations, just to name a few. As we continue to evaluate low-carbon opportunities, we remain focused on those that will complement our operations and capabilities while providing long-term stakeholder value. As we have additional detail on specific projects or future emission reduction activities, we'll share that information and our progress toward our 2030 target. I'll turn the call over to Walt Hulse to discuss our financial performance.

Walt Hulse
CFO and EVP of Strategy and Corporate Affairs, ONEOK

Thank you, Pierce. With yesterday's earnings announcement, we once again increased our 2021 financial guidance expectations and narrowed our ranges. We now expect net income of $1.43 billion-$1.55 billion, an adjusted EBITDA of $3.325 billion-$3.425 billion with a midpoint of $3.375 billion. This represents a 10% increase in our net income and EPS guidance midpoints and a 5% increase in our adjusted EBITDA midpoint compared with our previous guidance. Our higher expectations are driven by continued volume strength in the Rocky Mountain region and Permian Basin, increased demand for natural gas storage and transportation, and higher commodity prices.

Our 2021 capital expenditures are expected to be closer to the higher end of our guidance range of $525 million-$675 million as a result of increased producer activity and project timing. We continually work with our customers to evaluate their future capacity needs and supply expectations, and we'll align our projects and capital investment with those needs. Our outlook for growth in 2022 continues to strengthen, driven by increasing producer activity and rising gas-to-oil ratio in the Williston Basin, along with the recent completion of our Bear Creek plant expansion. Additionally, new ethane demand from new and expanding petrochemical facilities is expected to come online before the end of the year. Kevin will provide more detail on each of these shortly. Now for a brief overview of our third quarter performance.

ONEOK's third quarter 2021 net income totaled $392 million or $0.88 per share. A 26% increase compared with the third quarter of 2020, and a 15% increase compared with the prior quarter. Third quarter adjusted EBITDA totaled $865 million. A 16% increase year-over-year, and an 8% increase compared with the second quarter of 2021. Our September 30 net debt to EBITDA on an annualized run rate basis was 4.0x, and we have line of sight to be in sub-4x in the near future. We ended the third quarter with no borrowings outstanding on our $2.5 billion credit facility and nearly $225 million of cash on the balance sheet. We continue to proactively manage our balance sheet and upcoming debt maturities.

Earlier this week, we redeemed the remaining $536 million of senior notes due February 2022. Our next debt maturity is not until October 2022. In October, the board of directors declared a dividend of $0.935, or $3.74 per share on an annualized basis, unchanged from the previous quarter. I'll now turn the call over to Kevin for an operational update.

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

Thank you, Walt. In our natural gas liquids segment, total NGL raw feed throughput volumes increased 5% compared with the second quarter of 2021 and 10% year-over-year, averaging nearly 1.3 million barrels per day, our highest NGL volume to date. Third quarter raw feed throughput from the Rocky Mountain region increased 5% compared with the second quarter of 2021, and nearly 50% compared with the third quarter of 2020. Volume growth was driven by increased producer activity in the region, ethane recovery, and increasing volumes from recently connected third-party plants, including a 250 million cubic feet per day third-party plant that came online in July. Raw feed throughput volumes from the Mid-Continent and the Permian Basin also increased.

Permian volumes increased 12% compared with the second quarter of 2021, driven by higher ethane recovery and producer activity levels. We also connected an additional third-party plant in the basin during the quarter. The segment was also able to utilize our integrated assets to capture the benefit of location and commodity price differentials during the third quarter, providing additional earnings on top of our primarily fee-based results. Petrochemical demand continues to strengthen as facilities have returned to normal operations following Hurricane Ida and as the pandemic recovery continues. Two new petrochemical plants coming online before the end of the year could provide more than 160,000 barrels per day of additional ethane demand once fully operational. This additional capacity, combined with strong ethane exports, should support a wider ethane to natural gas differential in 2022.

Ethane volumes on our system in the Rocky Mountain region increased compared with the second quarter of 2021 as we incented additional ethane recovery during the third quarter. Recovery continued in October and is also expected throughout November, given current regional natural gas and ethane prices. In other regions, we continue to forecast partial ethane recovery in the Mid-Continent and near full recovery in the Permian for the remainder of the year. All of these assumptions are included in our increased financial guidance for 2021. Any additional ethane recovered would provide upside to our 2021 expectations. Discretionary ethane on our system is now more than 225,000 barrels per day. Of that total opportunity, more than 125,000 barrels per day are available in the Rocky Mountain region and 100,000 barrels per day in the Mid-Continent.

As NGL volumes continue to grow across our systems, so does the discretionary ethane. Moving on to the Natural Gas Gathering and Processing segment. In the Rocky Mountain region, third quarter processed volumes averaged nearly 1.3 billion cubic feet per day, a 2% increase compared with the second quarter of 2021, and a nearly 25% increase year-over-year. Scheduled plant maintenance at four of our processing facilities, which have since come back online, decreased third quarter volumes by approximately 30 million cubic feet per day for the quarter. We estimate that approximately 14-15 rigs, which can drill approximately 300 wells per year, is enough to maintain 1.4 billion cubic feet per day of production behind our system. Any additional rigs, combined with the rising gas-to-oil ratios of wells already connected to our system, would provide additional volume growth.

Conversations with our producers in the region continue to point to higher activity levels through the end of the year and into 2022. There are currently 32 rigs and 10 completion crews operating in the basin, with 17 rigs and 5 completion crews on our dedicated acreage. This is more than enough activity to grow gas production on our acreage. In addition to the rigs currently operating in the basin, there remains a large inventory of drilled but uncompleted wells. With more than 520 basin-wide and approximately 300 on our dedicated acreage, compared with about 400 DUCs on our dedicated acreage at this time last year. In the third quarter, we connected 72 wells in the Rocky Mountain region, and in October, we connected more than 30 additional wells.

Based on the most recent producer completion schedules, we still expect to connect more than 300 wells this year. With our Bear Creek plant expansion and related compressor stations now complete and in service, we should see a significant number of well completions in the fourth quarter in Dunn County as producers have timed their completions with the startup of our expansion to avoid flaring. The new plant will accommodate increasing volumes as it ramps to full capacity over the next two to three years. With Bear Creek Two's completion, we now have approximately 1.7 billion cubic feet per day of processing capacity in the basin. We continue to see increased activity in the Mid-Continent region, with two rigs now operating on our acreage and 10 wells connected during the third quarter.

Sustained higher natural gas and NGL prices could drive a continued increase in activity next year. During the third quarter, the gathering and processing segment's fee rate averaged $1.02 per MMBtu, compared with $0.94 per MMBtu in the third quarter of 2020. Changes in our average fee rates continue to be driven by our volume and contract mix each quarter. We still expect the fee rate for 2021 to average between $1 and $1.05 per MMBtu. On to the natural gas pipeline segment. This segment's stable fee-based earnings continue to drive solid results, with adjusted EBITDA increasing 8% compared with the prior quarter. As we enter the winter heating season, we continue to see increased interest from customers for additional long-term transportation and storage capacity on our system following the extreme winter weather events earlier this year.

The segment's market-connected pipelines and more than 52 billion cubic feet of natural gas storage provide critical services to customers year-round, but especially during the winter. As always, we're working with our customers to understand their needs and to help meet increasing demand in the coming months. Pierce, that concludes my remarks.

Pierce Norton
President and CEO, ONEOK

Thank you, Kevin. The strong results for this quarter underscore the quality of our assets and the hard work and dedication of our more than 2,800 employees. I'm very proud of the fact that our employees remain disciplined and focused on the importance of safety, reliability, and the responsible operations of our assets. The first 9 months of this year has set up well for the end of the next year, the company-wide earnings growth in 2021, and have laid the foundation for continued growth next year. With that, operator, we're now ready for questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you were using a speaker phone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll take our first question from Shneur Gershuni with UBS.

Shneur Gershuni
Managing Director, UBS

Hi, good morning, everyone. Maybe to start off, I was wondering if we can talk about tailwinds into 2022. You gave some pretty good color about well completions in the presentation there. It sounds like you've about 100 wells left to complete for this year out of the 300 with only 2 months to go. You've got Bear Creek now in service. Is it also fair to assume that you potentially have some PPI inflators on some of your assets, like Elk Creek and so forth? Just kind of wondering how to think about ONEOK as we sort of head into 2022. In the past, you've talked about a $3.5 billion-$4 billion upside potential. Is that the case? Are the tailwinds stronger now?

Just wondering if you can give us sort of some color as to how do you think of the tailwinds right now, as we head into 2022?

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

Sure. This is Kevin. I think there's multiple kind of answers in that question. One, when we think about tailwinds into 2022, I really go more towards the activity levels we're seeing in the Bakken, with the rigs, with the DUCs inventory, with the rising GORs. We're seeing really nice activity and volume growth in the Permian. So I kind of point to that core volume growth. In addition to that, you've got, like I said in the remarks, ethane demand coming on the system, which could drive additional ethane recovery as we think about 2022. So that's where I think the tailwinds are. But to your question. You asked a question in there about kind of escalators on our contracts. In our NGL segment and our G&P segment, the vast majority of our contracts do have escalators on the fee rates.

We're covered as we think about inflation and other things, like that. Those contracts are covered.

Shneur Gershuni
Managing Director, UBS

Okay. You're still good with the range from before. Okay. Maybe, you know, just sort of given your leverage trajectory, kind of curious about what kind of return of capital options you're potentially considering when you hit your leverage targets mid-next year. Could we potentially see a dividend increase, or buybacks on the table? Just any color on that as well too, please.

Walt Hulse
CFO and EVP of Strategy and Corporate Affairs, ONEOK

Tristan, this is Walt. You know, we're very pleased to have achieved that 4.0 here in the third quarter. We wanna continue to see that trend lower. You know, we're not gonna stop looking for that debt reduction and then improving debt-to-EBITDA ratio. The other thing with free cash flow is it gives us the opportunity to invest in our capital growth as we go forward, utilizing free cash flow and not having to finance. Obviously, as we get further and further along into the reduction, our options open up. At the moment, we're focused on debt reduction and using our free cash flow for high return projects.

Shneur Gershuni
Managing Director, UBS

Great. Perfect. Thank you very much. Appreciate the color today.

Walt Hulse
CFO and EVP of Strategy and Corporate Affairs, ONEOK

Good. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Christine Cho with Barclays.

Christine Cho
Managing Director, Barclays

Morning. If I could start with the incentive ethane extraction in the Bakken . You know, the quarter was you know a little noisy with a number of plants being offline, so it's kind of hard to tell on a sequential basis. Can you just give us an idea of you know I think in your prepared remarks that you said you know you continue to incent. I think you know what the magnitude of the increase was on a quarter-over-quarter basis. You know the Mont Belvieu spread over Ventura Gas didn't seem like it would incentivize ethane extraction. Should we assume it's because of your exposure to AECO?

I know you're not gonna tell us what your exposure to AECO is, but can you give us an idea of what your limitations and constraints would be so that we can try and figure out maybe what your max exposure could be?

Sheridan Swords
SVP of Natural Gas Liquids, ONEOK

Christine, this is Sheridan. What I would tell you is, when we look at the opportunity to incentivize ethane, we look at what we could sell gas for at the gas plant, not at Ventura. We look at what's going on in the marketplace, what the market is offering us for gas price at the plant, and then we buy it, if we choose to incentivize it, we buy the ethane at that price or slightly better than that price to go in. You can't really use Ventura or AECO. You have to look and see what is happening at the gas plant at the time. In terms of volume, as we said in remarks, we did incentivize more ethane in the third quarter than we did in the second quarter.

At this time, we're not gonna give you an idea how much more, but we did incentivize more in the third quarter.

Christine Cho
Managing Director, Barclays

Would it be safe to assume that, you know, you could incentivize, even more, like, on a physical basis going forward?

Sheridan Swords
SVP of Natural Gas Liquids, ONEOK

Yes. Especially as volumes grow in the basin and grow in our G&P segment, we do have an opportunity to incentivize more ethane. As I said in previous, we look at what's going on in the marketplace, where the prices are in all basins to see how much we think is the right amount of ethane to bring out, so we don't push other basins that we have operations into rejection.

Christine Cho
Managing Director, Barclays

Okay. I guess when we think about the ethane demand that is slated to ramp up, how do you guys think about the risk to, you know, the operational crackers not running at full utilization if gas prices and ethane prices get too high?

Sheridan Swords
SVP of Natural Gas Liquids, ONEOK

What I would say, there's still a very strong spread between ethane and ethylene. It looks like the crackers have plenty of room to continue to run. Now, will the new crackers run at full rate? We think they will, but they need to run more ethane needs to be cracked today than has been because of that wide ethane to ethylene spread. We see good volume going forward. You couple that with the exports that are coming online. We expect stronger export demand in 2022 than we've seen in 2021, especially as additional crackers come on in China.

Christine Cho
Managing Director, Barclays

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Jeremy Tonet with JP Morgan.

Jeremy Tonet
Research Analyst and Managing Director, JPMorgan

I think on prior calls, you talked about a low double-digit increase for EBITDA versus a midpoint of $3.2 billion of EBITDA at that point in time with the guidance. I'm just wondering if that's kind of a fair way to think about it. Commodity prices look like they're higher than what was quoted in the first call there. Just trying to update, I guess, you know, how you guys are thinking about 2022 now versus what you had laid out in the first quarter.

Walt Hulse
CFO and EVP of Strategy and Corporate Affairs, ONEOK

Jeremy, this is Walt. I think when we laid it out in the first quarter, our guidance at that point was $3.050. Obviously, with the strength that we've seen build throughout the year, we already achieved what was out there at that point in time. What I would comment on is that quarter to quarter, we have seen everything strengthen in our business, whether it be producer activity, commodity prices. All of the trends are headed in the right direction. We think that we're going into 2022 with a very good tailwind, and we will give you our 2022 guidance in February.

Jeremy Tonet
Research Analyst and Managing Director, JPMorgan

Got it. That makes sense there. Maybe just pivoting towards D.C. for a minute, granted, it's a pretty uncertain outlook there. We have a very cloudy crystal ball. Just wondering if you could offer any thoughts on what you might be looking for out there, and how that could impact ONEOK via higher 45Q or minimum tax or, anything else, that is on your mind at this point.

Walt Hulse
CFO and EVP of Strategy and Corporate Affairs, ONEOK

Well, as it relates to the alternative minimum tax. Now there's still quite a few moving parts right now. If it is enacted, it's unclear at this point how it will interplay with bonus depreciation, which is in place for the next several years and has been in place. It's unclear how it will interplay with the interest limitations that are already in place on the NOL utilization. Also the billion-dollar threshold may be increasing, making the whole conversation somewhat irrelevant. We are on top of it. We've got a team that is watching the developments there, and we will continue to do that.

At the end of the day, even in its worst case, we wouldn't see it changing our progress on deleveraging or being able to fund our CapEx going forward.

Jeremy Tonet
Research Analyst and Managing Director, JPMorgan

Got it. Thank you for that. That's a very helpful answer.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Jean Ann Salisbury with Bernstein.

Jean Ann Salisbury
Senior Research Analyst, Bernstein

Hi. Good morning. North Dakota statewide flaring increased in recent months, as you show on page 8. Can you talk about the reasons for that, and if it's an indicator that it might be tough to get all of the expected gas production growth going forward? Notably, one of acreage flaring hasn't increased, so maybe it's different for y'all with processing capacity. Just wondering about the trends in wider North Dakota versus y'all.

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

Jean Ann, it's Kevin. Chuck can chime in as well. I think what you saw going on through the summer is you had several outages at facilities. You know, we've talked about some of the facilities we had down. While the majority of the cases, producers are then curtailing that volume, sometimes you'll see a little tick up in flaring. The same with some third-party plants that were going through some expansions and other maintenance activities during the summer. I don't think that's a trend. I think it's gonna trend back the other way as we get into what I'd consider more normal operational run rates for these facilities. The conversations we're having with all our customers up there, and I'm sure third parties are the same way, the target discussion is zero.

It's not the state targets anymore. We are working with our customers for sure on how we drive that number as close to zero as we possibly can, as it relates to the timing of our facilities, as it relates to how they're bringing on, you know, large pads, et cetera. I would expect that to turn around as we get these facilities up and going.

Jean Ann Salisbury
Senior Research Analyst, Bernstein

That's really helpful. Thank you. Just wondering if there's been any recent movement on either the Bison Pipeline or the Northern Border Pipeline to get some more gas takeaway kind of on the horizon.

Chuck Kelly
SVP for Natural Gas, ONEOK

Yeah, Jean Ann, this is Chuck. The projects that were discussed prior to the pandemic when we saw the trajectory of the basin requiring additional residue takeaway, we are revisiting those projects as we see increased activity in the basin, rising GORs. There's quite a few factors that indicate that in the next call it 2-3 years, these projects are gonna become necessary. There's a lot of work being done on that behind the scenes right now. We will definitely be part of that solution.

Jean Ann Salisbury
Senior Research Analyst, Bernstein

Great. Thanks. That's all for me.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Michael Blum of Wells Fargo.

Michael Blum
Managing Director, Wells Fargo

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Wanted to just ask a bit about the Midcontinent. Just want to hear what you're seeing in terms of producers' plans there. Do you think there's a possibility that Midcon volumes could be flat in 2022? Do you think there's been enough uptick in drilling activity? Thanks.

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

Michael, it's Kevin. I think if you look at the total basin, yeah, it's nice to see the uptick in rigs. I know there's been a couple of producers that have come out pretty strongly and announced increases in production in the Midcontinent, especially from a gas and NGL perspective. The way we kinda look at it is, A, we focus on the total rigs because, you know, with our NGL position across that basin where we're connected to about every plant, chances are if a rig shows up in the Midcontinent, the NGLs are coming to us. So that's a tailwind. While we may not have a lot of those rigs running on our dedicated acreage in G&P, you know, we do have a couple.

We've completed some wells. We continue to talk to our customers, and if we see these types of prices sustain, I think you could see some more activity in the Midcontinent.

Michael Blum
Managing Director, Wells Fargo

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Colton Bean with Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co.

Colton Bean
Managing Director of Global Energy Infrastructure Equity Research, Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co.

Morning. Maybe to blend the two questions there on ethane incentive and then the MidCon. I think we saw a slight recovery in the average bundled MidCon rate for Q3. Was that really just a result of this spread between OGT and Mont Belvieu widening out a bit? You know, if so, I guess our current levels or Q3 levels at least kind of sufficient to get that historical nine-cent per gallon rate.

Sheridan Swords
SVP of Natural Gas Liquids, ONEOK

This is Sheridan. What I'd say is two things that drove the rise in the average T&F in the Midcontinent. You mentioned one of them, which is we saw a wider spread between OGT and Belvieu ethane. In fact, there's one of the months in the quarter, we didn't have to incentivize any ethane that came out naturally. The other thing, we also saw an uptick in our C3+ volume, which gets a higher rate.

Than the ethane volume. 'Cause a lot of our plants have a split tier rate for ethane and C3+. Both of those contributed to the higher rate.

Colton Bean
Managing Director of Global Energy Infrastructure Equity Research, Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co.

Great. Back on the balance sheet, you've highlighted the desire to drop below 4x, you know, looks like effectively there on a run rate basis. Is there a new, you know, kind of leverage target that you guys think about, whether it's a ratio or, you know, do you think more in terms of an absolute debt target? Really just interested in how you're thinking about the balance sheet philosophically over the next couple of years.

Walt Hulse
CFO and EVP of Strategy and Corporate Affairs, ONEOK

Well, I mean, we've said before that aspirationally, we'd like to head towards 3.5 and maybe even a little bit lower. I think we're gonna see opportunities going forward. You know, at the EBITDA levels that we're at, half a turn is a whole lot of money to invest. We think we've got meaningful room there to continue to invest in great projects and still see our deleveraging trend downwards towards that aspirational target of around 3.5 times.

Colton Bean
Managing Director of Global Energy Infrastructure Equity Research, Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co.

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Tristan Richardson of Truist Securities.

Tristan Richardson
Director, Truist Securities.

Hi, good morning, guys. Just a quick one on capital. Clearly, you guys have shown the Elk Creek slide before. Obviously, there's plenty of capital-efficient optionality there on the downstream side. Can you frame for us maybe generally the CapEx dynamic in 2022 versus 2021, certainly a very modest capital year with Bear Creek. You know, with additional third-party plants online in the second half, GOR trends and that sort of pent-up volumes dynamic you mentioned in anticipation of Bear Creek, can you just frame for us what capital could look like in G&P or just broadly in 2022?

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

Tristan, this is Kevin. I'm not gonna give you a number 'cause that will flow with, as we provide you guidance early next year. The way we think about capital, we're constantly evaluating what our customers' needs are and what our capacities are. Whether we're talking about processing, you know, gathering and/or processing needs in the Bakken, frack capacity needs, you know, in Mont Belvieu, other pipeline needs maybe on West Texas, we're evaluating all of the information from our customers about what their plans are as we move into 2022, and then factoring that in.

The great position we're in, as you mentioned Elk Creek, but even should we need additional frac capacity, like an MB-5 to restart that paused project, we've already spent a significant amount of that money. Both the additional capital we would need to provide that capacity as well as the time we would need to deliver the capacity, we're in really good shape. 'Cause we might only need, say, 12-18 months to finish out a frac. You know, pipeline, we've already got pipe ordered and bought, so we don't have that exposure. These projects that could come back are in really good shape. We don't have to spend a lot of money, and we can do them relatively quickly.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Craig Shere with Tuohy Brothers.

Craig Shere
Director of Research, Tuohy Brothers

Good morning.

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

Good morning, Craig.

Craig Shere
Director of Research, Tuohy Brothers

We're talking about that 25 a month in well connects in the Bakken, you know, and obviously it's increasing. I think you said 30 in October, and if I did the math right, we may be at 38 or more for November, December. I had a couple questions. One, if these trends continue, does it seem inevitable that by year-end next year, we hit over 1.5 Bcf a day? And this is all just off your activity, right, on your acreage, but it kind of ignores activity with third-party processing plant connections into your NGL system, right? How much more upside could there be there?

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

Well, Craig, that's I mean, you've hit on the tailwinds we've talked about. I mean, if you're north of 30 rigs in the basin, absolutely, we believe that's enough to grow gas production across the entire basin. That's not only gonna benefit us from a G&P perspective, but all the third-party connections that Sheridan has on the NGL side, we're gonna benefit from growth there as well. We're in great shape because we've still got, I think, like 125,000 barrels a day of capacity on Elk Creek or on our NGL systems coming out of the basin. Again, we don't have to spend a lot of capital to capture that EBITDA.

Craig Shere
Director of Research, Tuohy Brothers

Okay. You know, it sounds like there's these great tailwinds. Everything's looking wonderful. I understand we'll wait till February to get next year's guidance. It seems like updated full-year midpoint EBITDA guidance kind of suggests, you know, a decent but kind of sober fourth quarter. Nothing, you know, like, you know, more recent outperformance versus expectations. Could you maybe talk about, you know, the gives and takes going into, you know, the fourth quarter?

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

Well, I think the gives and takes are, as you're probably gonna predict we'll say is, we always know there's the, you know, there's weather we have to deal with in North Dakota. If you get a calm early winter, then yeah, I think that could provide some upside. We do have a lot of well connects forecasted in the, you know, last couple months of the year. That's what producers are telling us. If you get some weather, could those be delayed? I think the key potentially so. I think the key is, you know, we have kind of this arbitrary cutoff at December 31. Well, the well connects are gonna get done, whether it's in on December 15 or January 15.

As we think, if we back up and look at the trends over the next several months, clearly we've got optimism of where we're gonna be. I think, yes, you've hit on there. I think there's some upside as well with both, volumes if these wells come online like we think, and as well as the ethane recovery option that you know would be a positive, upside for us in the fourth quarter.

Craig Shere
Director of Research, Tuohy Brothers

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Alex Kania with Wolfe Research.

Alex Kania
Director, Wolfe Research

Hey, good morning. Two questions. First is just thinking about the ethane recovery opportunity and going into next year and maybe putting it into the context with your view of kind of a widening spread between ethane and natural gas next year, just with the increased demand. Would it be fair to think that there's a kind of double opportunity there between both volumes and maybe an ability to kind of reduce the incentive pricing that you have on ethane?

Sheridan Swords
SVP of Natural Gas Liquids, ONEOK

Yeah, this is Sheridan. You're exactly right. We think there's an opportunity in both of them. Obviously, the wider the ethane to natural gas spread gets, the more we can capture of that spread, and so the incentive is less. Also, as volume continues to increase in the Bakken and potentially in the Mid-Continent, we also have the opportunity to bring even more ethane out. You're exactly right. You're thinking about it right. There's a double benefit going into 2022.

Alex Kania
Director, Wolfe Research

Great. Thanks. Just maybe a follow-up on thinking about the, I guess, the maintenance gas level, at the very least, on the 300 wells a year, and the 14-15 rigs. Does that also imply or kind of assume any continued work down of the DUC inventory, or is that 14-15 rigs, say, enough to kind of keep volumes where they are, you know, and then whatever else is going on with the GOR, but not having to really dive into the inventory of the DUCs anymore?

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

I think you'll see the DUC inventory continue to work down a little bit. Those will occur, I guess, call it simultaneously. You'll look at the completion crews and at 10 completion crews, I think you will. The number of rigs running, I think you'll work the inventory down. It'll be a little slower. But the more rigs you have, the more kind of a working. You'll get down to a working inventory level at some point where the producer likes to keep a certain level so that they're they don't ever want a completion crew to be waiting on a well to complete.

I think you'll see it stabilize, but I do think you're gonna have a period of time here for the next several months where you're gonna have both the DUCs inventory getting worked down as well as these new rigs, churning out new wells.

Alex Kania
Director, Wolfe Research

Great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our last question from Michael Lapides with Goldman Sachs.

Michael Lapides
VP and Head of Energy Infrastructure Equity Research, Goldman Sachs

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Mine's a little bit more long-term in nature. When you get, you know, close to a point where you're gonna think about capital allocation again, and given just what the industry's been through over the last couple of years, if not longer, how do you think about, from an equity standpoint, what you and the board would view as an appropriate kind of how to return capital back to equity holders? Meaning, do you think it's embedded primarily in the dividend growth, or are you thinking it's embedded more so in buybacks and in very limited dividend growth? Do special dividends play a role? Just, I'm trying to just think about how you're thinking and how the board's thinking about capital allocation as you see improving fundamentals ahead.

Pierce Norton
President and CEO, ONEOK

Michael, I'll. This is Pierce. I think what our first priority would be to grow our earnings per share and return that value that way in the equity price. You know, I mean, Walt said this before is as we go down through the 4% and get to the 3.5% and maybe lower, it does open up our opportunities. We also are looking at what are those growth opportunities to reinvest in the business to continue to grow our earnings per share. It opens up the door to look at some of those other opportunities. Walt, you got anything to add to that?

Walt Hulse
CFO and EVP of Strategy and Corporate Affairs, ONEOK

No, I think that's exactly right. We, as we see this earnings growth, you know, the board will continue to evaluate all those opportunities. You know, I think it comes back to if we have more attractive returns and high multiple projects, then we're gonna wanna, you know, focus our capital there. If that isn't the case, then, you know, obviously, looking at other forms of capital return to shareholders is something we'll have to evaluate.

Michael Lapides
VP and Head of Energy Infrastructure Equity Research, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Thank you, guys. I'll follow up offline. Much appreciated.

Kevin Burdick
EVP and COO, ONEOK

Welcome. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. That concludes our questions for today. I'll turn it back to Andrew Ziola for closing remarks.

Andrew Ziola
VP of Investor Relations, ONEOK

Our quiet period for the fourth quarter and year-end starts when we close our books in January of 2022 and extends until we release earnings in late February. We'll provide details for that conference call at a later date. Thank you all for joining us, and the IR team will be available throughout the day. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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