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Earnings Call: Q2 2019

Aug 1, 2019

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Olin Corporation second quarter 2019 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Logan Bonacorsi, Olin's Director of Investor Relations. Ms. Bonacorsi, the floor is yours, ma'am.

Logan Bonacorsi
Director of Investor Relations, Olin Corporation

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Before we begin, let me remind you that this presentation, along with the associated slides and the question and answer session following our prepared remarks, will include statements regarding estimates of future performance. Please note that these are forward-looking statements and that actual results could differ materially from those projected. Some of the factors that could cause results to differ from our projections are described without limitations in the Risk Factors section of our most recent Form 10-K and in yesterday's second quarter earnings press release. A copy of today's transcript and slides will be available on our website in the Investors section under Past Events. The earnings press release and other financial data and information are available under Press Releases.

With me this morning are John Fischer, Olin's Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer; Pat Dawson, Executive Vice President and President, Epoxy and International; Jim Varilek, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer; F , Executive Vice President, Synergies and Systems; and Todd Slater, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We will begin with our prepared remarks and thereafter, we will be happy to take your questions. I will now turn the call over to John Fischer. John?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

Thank you, Logan, and good morning, everyone. Today, I will begin my remarks by discussing the key points from the quarter just ended, followed by the outlook for the second half of 2019, a detailed review of each of Olin's business segments, and conclude with our view on market dynamics for chlor alkali and Epoxy. With that, let's turn to slide three. During the second quarter and consistent with our early July update, Olin reported adjusted EBITDA of $204.6 million. Second quarter results were challenged by several factors across our business segments. Specifically, we experienced lower than anticipated demand for merchant chlorine and certain chlorine derivatives, predominantly from titanium dioxide in refrigeration customers and agricultural customers impacted by flooding. We were challenged by several one-time events in the Epoxy segment, which negatively impacted results by approximately $10 million.

These included customer issues resulting from the Intercontinental Terminals Company storage fire in the Houston, Texas area and reduced production in Europe resulting from an unplanned outage at a utility supplier. We incurred, as expected, approximately $40 million of sequentially higher planned maintenance turnaround costs in our chemical businesses, and we recorded a $20 million environmental expense for remedial activities related to a legacy Olin manufacturing site. Now, moving to our third quarter 2019 outlook, which is on slide four. We expect our third quarter adjusted EBITDA to be higher than that achieved in the second quarter of 2019. First, we expect improved operating rates and seasonally stronger sales volume in each of our three segments. Second, we expect approximately $40 million of lower maintenance turnaround costs compared to the second quarter.

Third, the absence of the one-time events that challenged Olin in the second quarter should benefit third quarter adjusted EBITDA. While the second quarter declines in caustic soda indices will continue to affect the price in Olin system during the third quarter, the anticipated improvement in caustic soda pricing should provide positive momentum moving forward. Looking at the second half of 2019 outlook, which is on page five. As we guided to in early July, we expect full-year adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $1.075 billion and $1.175 billion. At the midpoint, this guidance implies second half 2019 adjusted EBITDA of approximately $650 million. The key assumptions behind this forecast are higher volume levels in chlor alkali and Epoxy, increased operating rates in the chemicals business, lower turnaround costs, stronger contribution from the Winchester segment, and improved cost performance.

Although pricing is expected to improve, we are assuming that approximately $15 million of the adjusted EBITDA improvement in the second half compared to the first half will come from higher prices. Now, I would like to take a more detailed look at each of the business segments, starting with Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls on slide six. Second quarter 2019 adjusted EBITDA for the Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls segment was $189.5 million, representing a 35% year-over-year decline and reflecting the significant impact of lower caustic soda pricing. In fact, caustic soda pricing in Olin system was approximately 25% or approximately $100 million lower when compared to the second quarter of 2018. In addition, lower overall volumes, which were down approximately 4% year-over-year, negatively impacted the second quarter segment results.

Offsetting some of the year-over-year pressure from caustic soda prices and lower overall volume levels was a larger contribution from Olin's ethylene dichloride business. Ethylene dichloride pricing improved approximately 40% over second quarter 2018 levels. Now let's discuss caustic soda pricing, which is on slide seven. Domestic caustic soda pricing declined at a slower rate in the second quarter of 2019, with the third-party indices moving down an additional $20 from first quarter 2019 levels. This price reduction, coupled with the first quarter decline still being recognized in our system, led to a 3% sequential decline in Olin's system. An upward turn in caustic soda price has occurred later than we had anticipated, but we are now seeing positive developments. During the second quarter, the caustic soda demand locations that plagued the market for more than a year were largely resolved.

In addition, global restraints on the supply side, particularly in Latin America, have emerged, resulting in the need for additional caustic soda exports from the United States. The tightening supply and demand dynamics taking place today should lead to caustic soda price improvement as we progress through the back half of the year. In fact, we are already seeing indications of upward pricing momentum. For example, U.S. spot export pricing reversed its downward trend in the second quarter, with indices increasing approximately $40 per ton over the first quarter. Brazilian domestic pricing has increased approximately $200 per ton since the end of the first quarter. Most recently, the domestic caustic price indices broke its streak of declines in July by increasing $5 per ton. Now let us move to the performance of our Epoxy segment, which is on slide eight.

During the second quarter of 2019, Olin's Epoxy business generated adjusted EBITDA of $29.7 million. This level of adjusted EBITDA, coupled with our first quarter 2019 results, represents Olin's strongest first-half performance from this segment since owning and operating this business. Looking ahead to the third quarter of 2019, we expect Epoxy segment results to increase when compared to the second quarter of 2019. Specifically, $20 million of lower planned turnaround costs, the resumption of normal customer operations at the ITC terminal storage facility, and the resolution of the unplanned utility outage at the Stade, Germany plant, will supplement the expected seasonal uplift in volumes. Moreover, we continue to believe we will see improved year-over-year performance from the Epoxy segment in 2019. Looking now at global epoxy resin prices, which are shown on the chart on slide nine.

During the second quarter, liquid epoxy resin pricing in all regions declined from the pricing levels experienced during the prior year quarter. Sequentially, pricing in Asia and Europe moved lower due to weaker-than-expected demand, while U.S. liquid epoxy resin pricing appears to have stabilized. However, ongoing supply disruptions in China have tightened epichlorohydrin supply. In fact, epichlorohydrin prices in China increased approximately 30% over the past two months. This has resulted in upward pricing momentum for liquid epoxy resins in China. We believe this development could tighten global markets, resulting in an increase in global liquid epoxy resin pricing in the second half of 2019. Now turning to our Winchester segment, which is summarized on slide 10. Winchester experienced a 9% decline in adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter of 2019 compared to the second quarter last year.

This decline was a result of lower commercial volumes and lower product pricing. Favorable commodity and operating costs partially offset the impact of the lower volumes and pricing. We are forecasting sequential improvement in adjusted EBITDA during the third quarter as the business enters its seasonally strongest quarter of the year. We expect to see an improvement in commercial sales and volumes across all product categories and in military and law enforcement sales volumes. This should lead to a stronger overall performance during the year's second half. We continue to expect Winchester's results for the full year of 2019 to be comparable to the full year levels achieved in 2018. Now turning to our long-term view of the market. In mid-July, Olin completed a $750 million bond offering and new $2 billion bank credit facility.

Todd will discuss this transaction in more detail in a minute, but overall, we were able to establish a low-risk pathway to refinance the high-cost bonds assumed during the 2015 Dow merger when the bonds become callable in late 2020, while also increasing our overall financial flexibility. Despite the recent weakness in caustic soda pricing and lackluster demand for certain of our products, our positive long-term view of the chlor alkali and epoxy markets is unchanged. This positive outlook reflects the following. In the chlor alkali sector, demand growth is occurring on both sides of the ECU. To date, there have been minimal global capacity additions and announcements of additions to meet this growing demand. Current industry economics do not support world-scale chlor alkali capital investments. As a result, over time, supply and demand balances will continue to tighten, creating upward pricing momentum for Olin's caustic soda, chlorine, and chlorine derivative products.

Similarly, in the epoxy business, we see steady global demand growth and minimal announced capacity additions. Now I would like to turn the call over to Todd Slater, Olin's CFO. Todd?

Todd Slater
VP and CFO, Olin Corporation

Thanks, John. Before turning to our 2019 cash flow outlook, I'd like to discuss the recent capital market transactions in more detail on slide 12. In mid-July, we completed an opportunistic bond offering, which extended our debt maturity profile and enhanced our current liquidity position. We issued $750 million of 10-year senior unsecured notes at an interest rate of 5.625%. We immediately used the proceeds from the offering to prepay the term loan A facility and the outstanding borrowings under the accounts receivable securitization facility. As a result, we have effectively no payable debt outstanding. Concurrently, we put in place a new $2 billion bank credit facility consisting of an $800 million revolving credit facility and a $1.2 billion delayed draw term loan.

We expect to use the proceeds from the delayed draw term loan to pay the existing high-cost bonds that were assumed in the acquisition of Dow Chlorine Products businesses when the bonds become callable in late 2020. By addressing this future need now, when the credit markets are favorable, we have positioned Olin to enhance our balance sheet and cash flow significantly at attractive terms within the next 15 months. We estimate that the 2020 refinancing will reduce annual interest expense by $50 million-$70 million. Now let's turn to our 2019 cash flow forecast, which is on slide 13. Assuming the midpoint of our full year adjusted EBITDA guidance, we expect to generate approximately $310 million of cash flow in 2019. Starting with the midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA forecast, which is in the far left of the waterfall chart, we deduct $60 million in estimated cash tax payments.

We are forecasting our cash tax rate will be in the 25% range for the year. Column three reflects the midpoint of our current forecast for capital spending of $375 million, which includes annual maintenance capital spending of between $225 million and $275 million, and the investment associated with our multi-year information technology integration project of approximately $80 million. We have previously discussed, in 2017, we began a multi-year project to implement new enterprise resource planning, manufacturing, and engineering systems across the heritage Olin and the acquired Dow Chlorine Products businesses. The project includes the required information technology infrastructure. Turning to the fourth column, we expect a $100 million increase in working capital in 2019, as we will use cash from our refinancing to discontinue the sale of receivables under our factoring arrangement.

In the next column, one-time items include information technology integration costs and cash restructuring costs of approximately $80 million. This includes approximately $40 million for the IT integration project that I just spoke about and approximately $25 million of duplicate IT costs that are being incurred during the transition. These costs were partially offset by $20 million of pre-tax proceeds from the sale of an investment in a non-consolidated affiliate during the first quarter. The next column represents an estimate of cash interest expense. On June 30th, we had approximately 30% of our debt at variable interest rates. However, following the refinancing that was just completed, that percentage has dropped to 20% of our debt at variable rates. We are forecasting the 2019 interest rates will be slightly higher than those we experienced in 2018. In the far right column, we are forecasting $310 million of cash flow.

Given the recent capital market transactions and the debt repayment progress to date, our top priority for free cash flow is to return to our shareholders through dividends and share repurchases and build our cash position in advance of the ethylene payment, which will be no more than $493 million, and that is due in late 2020. On Thursday, July 25th, Olin's Board of Directors declared a dividend of $0.20 on each share of Olin common stock. The dividend is payable on September 10th, 2019 to shareholders of record at the close of business on August 9th, 2019. This is the 371st consecutive quarterly dividend to be paid by the company. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

Operator

Yes, sir. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset before pressing the keys. If any type of question has been addressed and you'd like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. Again, it is star then one to ask a question. At this time, we'll just pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question will come from Don Carson of Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

Don Carson
Analyst, Susquehanna

Yes. Thank you. John, in your pre-release, you talked about some weakness in chlorine volumes as well, obviously ags continued weak, but what are you seeing in some of these other markets like refrigerants and TiO2? Any uptick? Maybe just talk about EDC demand and price outlook for the second half.

Todd Slater
VP and CFO, Olin Corporation

Okay. If you look at our chlorine demand historically, it has always been the strongest in Q3. I would say as it relates to both TiO2 and refrigerants, which we saw fairly weak in the first half, we have seen some seasonal uptick in both of those. I will let Jim just comment on EDC.

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

Don, this is Jim. From an EDC standpoint, I think the demand has actually been pretty solid throughout the first half, and we expect that to continue into the second half. What we're seeing in the marketplace actually is there's a broadened demand for EDC. A long time ago, 18 months, two years ago it used to be predominantly Asia. In the last year and a half, we've seen demand increase in Southern Europe. We've seen it also increase in Middle East, North Africa as well. Of course, most recently in Latin America. Demand is solid. We remain constructive on EDC.

Don Carson
Analyst, Susquehanna

As a follow-up, on slide 20, you show significant leverage to lower net gas and ethane costs, and prices of both have been coming down. What benefit did you see from that, if any, in the first half, given your hedging position, and how do you see that contributing to earnings growth in the second half?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

I would say generally, we are a hedger as it relates to gas predominantly, some of the benefit was tempered, it'll just be delayed in our system. We have been benefiting, and you see that in terms of the profitability of our EDC from the lower ethane prices. Although, a lot of that has occurred just fairly recently.

Don Carson
Analyst, Susquehanna

Thank you.

Operator

Next, we have Kevin McCarthy of Vertical Research.

Kevin McCarthy
Analyst, Vertical Research

Yes, good morning. Just to follow up on EDC, I was wondering if you could comment on the level of EDC prices that is baked into your financial guidance for 2019. We've noticed some weakness over the last two months or so, and just would like to understand what you're assuming in terms of the sequential pattern there.

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

Yeah. From an EDC standpoint, there has been some movement that we've seen in Asia, and I think that's because of low ethylene pricing that's taking place. You probably are hearing and seeing some of the spot volumes that are moving to Asia that are at reduced numbers. What I would say is that, as I mentioned earlier on the breadth that we're seeing in the marketplace, Olin doesn't have to participate specifically in Asia. We have a broad-based participation. A significant amount of our volume for the third quarter and into the fourth quarter has already been pre-placed at contractual pricing. We're going to see somewhat muted effect relative to that spread.

Kevin McCarthy
Analyst, Vertical Research

Okay, as a second question, I think you indicated in your press release that your average realized pricing for caustic soda declined 3% in two Q versus one Q. I was wondering if it's possible to provide a similar number for the chlorine side of the molecule including derivatives. What was your average price experience there?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

I would tell you that on the chlorine side itself, chlorine is actually up year-over-year. The derivatives get very messy because mix gets into play. I think you can look at the big derivatives, which would be bleach, that just takes chlorine and moves it through, and chlorinated organics, and chlorine moves through. Those would have had a positive trend. I would say the other derivative is HCl, which is much more market driven, and that has tended to be lower year-over-year at this point. Still, if you look at HCl, from our perspective, it's still a value add compared to selling merchant chlorine.

Kevin McCarthy
Analyst, Vertical Research

Just to clarify, Jim, were prices stable on a sequential basis versus one Q?

Todd Slater
VP and CFO, Olin Corporation

Kevin, this is Todd. If you go back to slide 19, you'll see virtually all prices were similar Q1 versus Q2 except for caustic and HCl.

Kevin McCarthy
Analyst, Vertical Research

Thank you very much.

Operator

Next, we have Eric Petrie of Citi.

Eric Petrie
Analyst, Citi

Hi, good morning.

Todd Slater
VP and CFO, Olin Corporation

Morning.

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

Good morning.

Eric Petrie
Analyst, Citi

You noted that in your second half over first half guidance, that pricing would contribute roughly $15 million. Of that, how much does caustic soda represent versus chlorine derivatives or any pricing uptick that you think you'll realize in Epoxy?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

We have not broken that out. I would just say, as with most of our portfolio, caustic is roughly half our volume, so it probably represents half the price.

Eric Petrie
Analyst, Citi

Okay. Helpful. By region, could you talk about your customer caustic soda inventories? At least in Europe, it seems that stocks remain elevated year-over-year on a historical basis. With prices seemingly troughing and bottoming out at these levels, I wonder if you could talk about potential restocking in the second half.

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

I guess I would say from the standpoint of inventories, we don't pay that much attention to Europe other than I could tell you that for the year 2019, exports from Europe to North America are down. I would also tell you that exports out of China are also down. We think that we're going to see benefit and continue to see benefit over time from a tightening market.

Eric Petrie
Analyst, Citi

Thank you.

Operator

Next, we have Michael Leithead of Barclays.

Michael Leithead
Analyst, Barclays

Hey, fellas. Good morning. Following on the last question, if I sort of build a half over half EBITDA bridge, pricing's going to give us $15 million, turnarounds are going to give us another $25. I think in your pre-announcement, you called out $20 million in epoxy items. If my math's right, that leaves us around $115 million gap that we need in terms of hitting the guidance. I'm assuming, is that mostly volume that's going to get us there?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

That's correct.

Michael Leithead
Analyst, Barclays

Okay. Since you bought the Dow business four years ago, what has historically been the seasonal volume split between the first half and the second half?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

Well, if you just look at EBITDA between first half and second half for the three-year average of 2016, 2017, and 2018, we've averaged about 45% of our EBITDA in the first half, 55% in the second half. It's been as low as 41%-42%. I would say what we're forecasting is not way out of line with what we've seen historically.

Michael Leithead
Analyst, Barclays

I guess just one last one. You've seen a massive caustic upcycle over the past three or four years, the second half has just benefited from higher price over the past three years versus that first half this year. I'm assuming pricing skews some of the EBITDA benefit. I guess that's why I was asking on the volume side, what has that split been?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

Well, I'll give you three statistics because the three biggest things that benefit for us in terms of first half versus second half. The first is bleach, which is seasonal, and it's not the biggest of the businesses, but historically, that has been up somewhere in the 15%-20% range first half to second half, and that's not cyclical. In fact, as hot as it was in July, that's actually positive in terms of the comparison. The second has been our vinyls business, and that over the prior three years has averaged about a 5%-7% improvement first half versus second half. We have some large pipeline customers who are predominantly related to the polyurethanes path, and that has historically been up about 15% in the second half versus the first half.

A lot of that just has to do with the timing of turnarounds, but we typically take our turnaround when our customers do.

Michael Leithead
Analyst, Barclays

Great. Thank you.

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

There's three big pieces.

Michael Leithead
Analyst, Barclays

That's super helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Next we have James Sheehan of SunTrust.

James Sheehan
Analyst, SunTrust

Morning. Thanks for taking my question. Can you address your Chlor-Alkali Vinyls, the demand declines in the quarter? You said down 4%. It seems to be well below GDP or industrial production rates. Is this an impact of trade and tariffs or something else?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

Jim, this is Jim. No, it's not a result of trade tariffs or anything. We mentioned some of the weakness on the chlorine side of things, the chlorinated organics, refrigerants, and the agricultural market that impacts us. Obviously when you have that demand on the chlorine side, you lose both sides of the ECU. That's primarily what we're talking about in terms of the volume declines.

James Sheehan
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay. In epoxy, you talked about tight epichlorohydrin conditions, supply, demand may be resulting in upward pricing momentum for epoxy and liquid epoxy resin pricing. Do you think that tightness is enough to offset some of the demand weakness we're seeing in electronics and from automotive end markets?

Pat Dawson
EVP and President, Epoxy and International, Olin Corporation

Yeah, Jim, this is Pat. We will see because the real issue there with epi prices going up 30% in the last two months is that puts margin pressure on the non-integrated epoxy resin producers in China. We've seen that price of LER in China go up to levels where we were in late 2017 and early 2018. What that does is you get the price of LER in China higher than the price of LER out of China. Producers in Asia, where we see a lot of the competitive activity coming into Europe and North America, they'll send that LER into China because they can make better returns, and that takes product off the market in Europe and North America. You can get a tightening from that kind of arbitrage dynamic.

That's really what we see could happen here in the second half of the year.

James Sheehan
Analyst, SunTrust

Thank you.

Operator

The next question we have will come from Matthew Blair of Tudor, Pickering & Holt.

Matthew Blair
Analyst, Tudor, Pickering & Holt

Hey, good morning, everyone. I just wanted to clarify on the use of cash proceeds. I think previously you were talking about paying down $250 million-$300 million of debt. Is that still intact, or is the general idea to build cash in advance of this third ethylene tranche payment?

Todd Slater
VP and CFO, Olin Corporation

Matthew, this is Todd. That debt repayment was in effect lowering debt in advance of the ethylene payment that was going to be due at the end of 2020. We are going to build cash over the next year and a half to be in position to pay that.

Matthew Blair
Analyst, Tudor, Pickering & Holt

Okay. Sounds good. It looks like epoxy contracts in the U.S. settled down a little bit in July. I was just wondering, are you expecting margin compression in epoxy in the third quarter, or do you think you'll make that up with cheaper raws?

Pat Dawson
EVP and President, Epoxy and International, Olin Corporation

Yeah, this is Pat again. I think we had price increases out there in May, and we got modest improvement traction on that pricing that you saw in the chart there from the ICIS index in that May, June timeframe. No question, with the lackluster demand in Asia and in Europe, we're seeing pressure on the margins. We're also not seeing any major increases in raw material costs. We think margins should be pretty stable here as we go into the second half of the year in North America.

Matthew Blair
Analyst, Tudor, Pickering & Holt

Sounds good. Thanks.

Operator

Next, we have Hassan Ahmed of Alembic Global.

Hassan Ahmed
Analyst, Alembic Global

Morning, guys. You guys talked about a recovery in caustic pricing in the back half of the year. There's some industry consultants out there talking about the restart of a caustic facility in the back half of the year in the U.S. Not a huge capacity, but a restart all the same. As you guys think about your sort of forecast, looking for higher caustic prices in the back half, are you factoring in that capacity coming on stream?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

I guess what I would say that it is a small facility that's a restart. In the whole scheme of things, in terms of the capacity that's 13 million tons plus in North America, it's very small. I would say that we're very constructive on what we're seeing. The demand on caustic is strong in the domestic market, obviously with the pickup in the export market that we're seeing, we're constructive on it. That plant restart, we wouldn't expect to have any impact on the overall supply demand outlook.

Hassan Ahmed
Analyst, Alembic Global

Understood. Since you brought up the export demand side of it, would love to hear what you guys are seeing specifically on the Brazilian side. It seems Alunorte is sort of ramping up production. The Braskem facility continues to be offline at the very least through the end of the year. What are you guys seeing on the sort of Brazilian export demand side?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

We continue to see relatively strong demand in Brazil, aided by some supply outages down there. We talked in the prepared remarks that we have seen the price of caustic soda in Brazil, the domestic price, go up about $200 a ton over the last quarter. I'll make one other comment about our caustic soda pricing. Our caustic soda pricing outside of North America went up approximately $50 a ton from the end of the first quarter to the end of the second quarter. The export market is improving.

Hassan Ahmed
Analyst, Alembic Global

Very helpful. Thanks so much, guys.

Operator

Next, we have Steve Byrne of Bank of America.

Steve Byrne
Analyst, Bank of America

Yes, thank you. Are your higher margin chlorine derivative products running at capacity? Could you shift more chlorine molecules into those end markets and away from, say, spot EDC?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

This is Jim. We do have the ability to move some product around. Our assets are running hard. I think we talked in our investor day about adding additional capacity down the road to support the derivative demand in bleach and HCl and so forth. We are in fact doing that. I would say the assets downstream are running well, running hard, and we do still have some capability to optimize across different product portfolios based on operational things and seasonal demands.

Steve Byrne
Analyst, Bank of America

This environmental remediation charge that you have, what site is this associated with? What's the source of the contamination, and how significant could this be longer term?

John McIntosh
EVP of Synergies and Systems, Olin Corporation

This is John McIntosh. We're not going to respond specifically about the site. This is just part of the ongoing remediation activity at the site. This is not indicative of a trend or a harbinger of things to come. This is just the normal course of events as we work cooperatively with the agencies to remediate sites that were targets or orphan sites for us from years ago.

Steve Byrne
Analyst, Bank of America

Can you just comment on what the contamination is?

Todd Slater
VP and CFO, Olin Corporation

Steve, this is Todd. If you look over the last 15 years, environmental's a long-term item for Olin. Our average expense has been just under $20 million a year, and it ranges anywhere from $38 million in a year to eight. This $20 million item is not unusual. It happens periodically over a 15-year period.

John McIntosh
EVP of Synergies and Systems, Olin Corporation

Yes. At the end of the day, I think that we have over 77 sites that Olin is dealing with in its environmental portfolio. Remember, this is a heritage Olin site, as we didn't take any legacy Dow environmental liabilities.

Steve Byrne
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, thank you.

Operator

The next question we have will come from Frank Mitsch of Fermium Research.

Frank Mitsch
Analyst, Fermium Research

Hey, good morning, congrats on the bond offering. I wanted to follow up on caustic pricing. I believe you indicated that indices had it down $20 per ton second quarter versus the first quarter. I thought you mentioned that industry was in July also down $5. If we think about where the industry index will end the third quarter, what are your expectations in terms of it being higher than where it ended June? Is that how we should be thinking about it, that we should be getting more than that $5 down on the index by the end of this quarter?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

Hi, Frank, this is Jim. Just for clarity, the July index was actually moved up five if you use IHS. There's a number of different indexes, and they range anywhere from up 5 to up 30 on the indexes. We do expect that we've reached a inflection point here and with demand continuing to be strong here as we go through the summertime, that we would expect continued upward movement on the prices. I think from an expectation standpoint if you think about third quarter caustic pricing being at or slightly better than second quarter would be a good assumption.

Frank Mitsch
Analyst, Fermium Research

That makes a lot more sense, which is why I asked the question because obviously I'd misheard that. My apologies there. On the ITC incident negatively impacting epoxies by $10, is that demand gone forever, or is that merely delayed and you'll be making that up as we progress through the year?

Pat Dawson
EVP and President, Epoxy and International, Olin Corporation

Frank, this is Pat. No, that demand is not gone forever. It was a temporary situation. We're seeing that come back strong here as we go into the second half of the year. Actually, we started to see it come back in the month of June.

Frank Mitsch
Analyst, Fermium Research

Terrific. Thanks so much.

Operator

The next question we have will come from Jeff Zekauskas of JPMorgan.

Jeff Zekauskas
Analyst, JPMorgan

Thanks very much. Your maintenance expenses have come down nicely from 2017, maybe from about $220 million then to about $136 in 2019. I was wondering, are these elevated or is the $136 that you think you're going to pay this year, is this still an elevated level of maintenance, or is this now a more normal level of maintenance? What's the trajectory of maintenance spending as a base case over the next several years?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

Jeff, there's a couple of things that drive the level of maintenance spending. One, there's a large outage that occurs every three years in a VCM plant, which is obviously the biggest, most complicated plant we have. That will drive it up in the year that that occurs. That last occurred in 2017, we will see that again in 2020. We also had once every six year maintenance at both of the epoxy plants. Part of that occurred late in 2017. Part of that occurred in 2018. Both that, again, drove 2017 up above what I would call the normal line. I would say 2019 is probably a little bit below the normal line. As we go into 2020, I would tell you we would expect that to be elevated because of the VCM.

Jeff Zekauskas
Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. If you could just briefly summarize why caustic soda prices for the first half of 2019 probably were lower than you expected, and why do you think that the stabilization and growth in caustic, which is about to come, is probably coming at a slower rate? What were the primary levers in your mind behind the toughness in the caustic market, and why have they altered?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

I think there was one discrete event, which was the whole issue of Alunorte, which has been discussed here for about a year.

Jeff Zekauskas
Analyst, JPMorgan

Sure.

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

I think ultimately, the restart of half of that plant, which consumes 15,000 tons of caustic a month was delayed much longer than we might have anticipated a year ago. The other thing I think if you look at some industry data and some consumption data, I think caustic soda demand in North America was just a little bit weaker in the first half of the year than we would have expected. There's probably impossible to specify where that came from, but that's why. We sort of believe we've turned the corner, as we said in our remarks around the demand disruption from Alunorte. On top of that, we've seen a supply disruption in Latin America around Braskem. We've seen in our system improving demand as we've started to move into the summer months, which are typically the strongest months from a manufacturing perspective.

Jeff Zekauskas
Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. All right. Thank you very much.

Operator

Next, we have Mike Sison of KeyBanc.

Mike Sison
Analyst, KeyBanc

Hey, guys. Just a question on the July realization of the $5 for caustic. I think you guys and several others announced $60. Can you maybe talk about why the realization was so low? Was it more supply? Was it more demand in terms of the pricing realization?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

Mike, this is Jim. Yeah. The price realization, it's always hard to turn things when you're going from a market that has been moving down to up. A lot of individual negotiations take place, and you should think about this also as a range in terms of the pricing. Some of the different indexes, there's from, like I said, from five to 30 range on that. So that would indicate kind of a spread of what type of price realization took place across the industry. Some of that will continue to be pushed into the latter parts of the third quarter.

Mike Sison
Analyst, KeyBanc

Got it. Then in terms of demand, where do you need that demand to improve, just on a geographic basis? Is it more the U.S. that needs to improve to see that improvement in demand, or do you need some demand overseas as well?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

This is John. I would say to you that caustic for us is a global market, so we're indifferent where demand improves.

Mike Sison
Analyst, KeyBanc

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Next, we have Neel Kumar of Morgan Stanley.

Neel Kumar
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi. Good morning.

Todd Slater
VP and CFO, Olin Corporation

Morning.

Neel Kumar
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

One of the trade sources mentioned that recent U.S. export offers have come in at about $20 per metric ton lower versus July. I was just wondering if that's different than what you're seeing in the market. What are the drivers of the lower offers? Is there anticipated price improvements in the second half of the year expected to come from higher domestic or export pricing?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

Well, I'll go back to the answer I gave to a question a few minutes ago, which is, in our system, caustics sold out of North America went up approximately $50 a ton between the end of the first quarter and the end of the second quarter. We do not expect that to go down as we move forward. It's our expectation that for us in our system, export pricing or non-North American pricing will be improved in the second half versus the first half.

I think that's consistent with what you see in the index, which is up $40 a ton. I can't comment on what one shipment that might be at a slightly different price might mean. From our perspective, this is what we're getting under our contracts. As we've said in the past, we sell virtually nothing in the spot market, so we're at least constructive on the direction.

Neel Kumar
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thanks. That's helpful. We've seen some commentary about producer inventories and costs have been a bit elevated over the last couple of months. Have those levels begun to get drawn down with the higher export demand, or how would you characterize inventories for the industry currently?

Jim Varilek
EVP and COO, Olin Corporation

I would say I can't talk about the industry. I can tell you that our inventories are at normal to slightly below normal levels right now.

Neel Kumar
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, thank you.

Operator

The next question we have will come from John Roberts of UBS.

John Roberts
Analyst, UBS

Thank you. I may have misheard at the beginning, but I think you talked about some Chinese supply disruptions in epoxy. Is that the glycerin-based Chinese industry, or was that chemical-based epi where there were disruption? Were these some of the older explosions that happened a while ago, just still rippling through the system?

Pat Dawson
EVP and President, Epoxy and International, Olin Corporation

Hi, John. This is Pat. This was chlorohydrin-based epichlorohydrin. It was not glycerin to epi-based. This is out in the press, primarily around Haili having some environmental issues. That's the capacity that has really gone down.

John Roberts
Analyst, UBS

Is there a fair amount of excess glycerin-based production that can still come back to the market here to kind of fill in if the pricing continues up?

Pat Dawson
EVP and President, Epoxy and International, Olin Corporation

I'd say the honest answer right now, it's hard to tell. There's a lot of different sizes of that glycerin to epi out there in terms of scale. There's a lot of different costs involved in those small assets. There's very little epichlorohydrin that ever comes out of China, John, as you know. I think most of this is around chlorohydrin-based, and that is, of course, most of the capacity in China is chlorohydrin-based.

John Roberts
Analyst, UBS

Okay. A follow-up on Winchester. Have we kind of completed all the de-stock at both end consumers in the supply chain now? Until the next kind of disruption comes along, this is a new normal, and we'll have normal seasonal patterns off of the current level of results at Winchester?

Todd Slater
VP and CFO, Olin Corporation

John, this is Todd. What we've seen at the distributors and retailers, inventories are in line. It's still unknowable what the consumer has in their safety stock. It's not clear that they're buying what they're technically consuming today. What we've seen in the first half of the year, Winchester is sort of, even though commercial sales have been down and pricing has been down with commodity costs and improved military volumes, year-over-year results are very similar.

John Roberts
Analyst, UBS

Thank you.

Operator

Next, we have Arun Viswanathan of RBC Capital Markets.

Arun Viswanathan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Thanks. Good morning, guys. Just a question on going back to the bridge. You highlighted kind of comparable Winchester earnings. That's minimal H2 improvement. Lower turnaround of $25, price is only $15. You said that leaves $100 or so for volumes. Could you break that out as well? That seems like quite a big jump to me. Was that just weakness in H1 that was more pronounced, and you see all that coming back? What gives you that confidence, especially given the demand weakness that you saw in the first half?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

We provided some information specific to products a few minutes ago where we talked about bleach, which I think everybody knows is a seasonal business. If you look at the weather pattern in the U.S., the early part of the year, especially the April, May, was a lot cooler and a lot wetter. July was a lot hotter than normal, and that has continued into August. That represents a big uptick. Historically, we've seen 15% uptick first half to second half. I talked about the vinyls business, which has a seasonal component to it in terms of how we run, how our customers run, and that has historically had a 5%-7% uptick second half to first half. The epoxy business has always been seasonally strongest in the second half versus the first half, which really goes to a lot of the businesses in Europe.

A lot of it is construction related. That is predominantly a summer activity, June, July, August, September. We're confident in that. I also talked about our large pipeline accounts, who primarily are in the urethanes business. We have typically seen somewhere in the 15% improvement first half to second half in them. All we're really looking for here is the normal demand pattern over the first half to second half. A lot of that plays into the fact that second half turnaround costs are going to be lower because some of this is driven by turnarounds that occur in the first half. The first half turnarounds reflect lower demand in the first half versus the second half. I would say we're as confident as we could be about the pattern that we're seeing. This is not that unusual.

Arun Viswanathan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Just so we can put that in context, yeah, I have those numbers as far as bleach up 15%-20%, 5%-7% in vinyls, pipeline up 15%. Given those typical movements, I guess, in the past, has that typically resulted in a $100 million improvement second half versus first half? Is that because of changes in your system that you could realize that larger level of improvement?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

I would say that typically creates a significant change from first half to second half. We said earlier that over the last 3 years that we've owned the Dow businesses, we've seen about 40%-5% of our EBITDA be generated in the first half, 55% in the second half. Pricing can skew that all over the place. We're looking at this, and the number we're giving you is obviously based on our assumptions on price, and there's not a lot of price skewing that this time.

Arun Viswanathan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Just to understand the lower end of the guidance then, assuming the midpoint, you get that $100 million or so in volume. The lower end, is it mainly just that the volume doesn't come through, or what are the other factors that go into the lower end of guidance?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

Well, I would say the two big variables around the guidance are, do you realize the $15 million in price? The rest is the volume.

Arun Viswanathan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, thanks.

Operator

Next, we have Aleksey Yefremov of Nomura.

Aleksey Yefremov
Analyst, Nomura

Thank you. Good morning. Apologies, another question on first half versus second half. If I take the 650 you expect at the midpoint in the second half and divide it by two, that's about $325 million per quarter. Should I think about the seasonality as 3Q is going to be higher than that average and 4Q below that?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

No, I think with the product mix that we have today and some of the changes in the customer, I would say Q3 and Q4 should look similar to each other.

Aleksey Yefremov
Analyst, Nomura

About 325 per quarter is roughly. All right, thanks. The $20 million environmental charge, should that benefit the corporate line in the third quarter compared to the second quarter because of absence of it?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

All other things being equal, yes.

Aleksey Yefremov
Analyst, Nomura

Last quick one, if I may. Could you quantify the negative impact of ITC fire in the first half and how much it would benefit the second?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

All we've said is that it was $10 million in the second quarter.

Aleksey Yefremov
Analyst, Nomura

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Well, as there are no further questions, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference call back over to Mr. John Fischer for any closing remarks. Sir?

John Fischer
Chairman, President, and CEO, Olin Corporation

I'd like to thank you all for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you about our third quarter.

Operator

All right. We thank you, sir, and to the rest of the management team for your time also. Again, the conference call is now concluded. At this time, you may disconnect your lines. Thank you, take care, and have a great day, everyone.