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AGM 2018

Nov 14, 2018

Speaker 1

Okay. So, good morning. I'm Jeff Henley, Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors. It's my pleasure to welcome you. In accordance with the notice of the meeting, I call to order the 41st Annual Meeting of Stockholders of Oracle Corporation.

Each stockholder was given an agenda for today's meeting. We will first conduct the formal portion of the stockholders' meeting in accordance with this agenda. Following adjournment of the formal portion, there will be an opportunity for questions and discussion. Before proceeding to the business of the meeting, I'd like to introduce myself and the other directors who are standing for election. As I mentioned, my name is Jeff Henley.

I've been a director since 1995 and Vice Chairman since 2014. Prior to that, I served as Chairman. I was previously Oracle's Chief Financial Officer from 1991 to 2004. Larry Ellison was appointed Chairman of the Board and Chief Technology Officer in 2014. Previously, Mr.

Ellison was our CEO previously Mr.

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Ellison was

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our CEO

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and has been a Director since he founded Oracle in 1977. Safra Katz, on the other side of Larry, has been Director since 2,001, was appointed CEO of Oracle in 2014. Prior to that, Ms. Katz served as President and Chief Financial Officer. Mark Hurd has been a Director since 2010, was appointed CEO of Oracle in 2014.

Previously, Mr. Heard served as President of Oracle. Before joining Oracle, he was the Chairman and CEO of Hewlett Packard Company. Doctor. Michael Boskin has been a Director since 1994.

Doctor. Boskin is the Tully M. Friedman Professor of Economics and Hoover Institution Senior Fellow at Stanford University. Jeff Berg has been a Director since 1997. He is Chairman of Northside Services, a talent and literary agency.

Mr. Berg was formerly Chairman and CEO of International Creative Management. Hector Garcina Molina has been a Director since 2,001. He is the Leonard Vossek and Sandra Lerner Professor Emeritus in the Departments of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering at Stanford University. Naomi Seligman has been a Director since 2005.

She is a senior partner of the Ostergren Simpson at I'm sorry, Osterker Von Simpson, a technology research firm that shares the CIO Strategy Exchange. George Kanrides has been a Director since 2,008. He is a Senior Advisor to Akamai Technologies and previously served as Akamai's Chairman and CEO. Bruce Chisholm has been a Director since 2008. He's an independent consultant and serves as a senior advisor to Permara Advisors and as a venture partner at Voyager Capital, he previously served as CEO of Adobe Systems Incorporated.

Secretary Leon Panetta has been a Director since 2015. Secretary Panetta previously served as the U. S. Secretary of Defense and as a Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. He is the Co Founder and Chairman of the Panetta Institute For Public Policy.

Renee James has been a Director since 2015. She is the Chairman and CEO of Ampere Computing, a company focused on data center server processors and she is an outstanding is an operating executive at the Carlyle Group. She previously had a 28 year career with Intel Corporation, where she most recently served as President. Rick Moorman has been a Director since 2018. He is currently a Senior Advisor to Amtrak and previously served as Amtrak's President and CEO.

He previously served as Chairman and CEO of Norfolk Southern Corporation. Bill Perrott has been a Director since 2018. He previously served as CEO of Deloitte Touche Tomatsu. Seated next to me to my right is Brian Higgins, Oracle's Vice President, Associate General Counsel and Corporate Secretary. Also present today are Kevin Asher, Chris Anger and Andrew Kavan from Ernst and Young, LLP, our independent registered public accounting firm.

They would be glad to respond to any questions during the question and answer period. Finally, we are assisted today by Chris Hall, a representative of America Stock Transfer and Trust Company LLC, our Inspector of Elections in the tabulation of the proxies and ballots. The minutes of the last year's annual meeting are available and any stockholder wishing to inspect the minutes should contact our corporate secretary. So now let's move on to the formal portion of the meeting. Brian Higgins will report on the mailing of the notice of this meeting.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Jeff. This meeting is held pursuant to a notice dated September 26, 2018. On or about September 26, 2018, each stockholder of record as of the close of business on September 17 this year was sent either a notification of Internet availability of proxy materials or the notice itself. All documents concerning notice of the meeting will be filed with the records of the meeting. A proof of mailing and list of stockholders entitled to vote are both available for inspection by any stockholder.

Speaker 1

So Brian will now advise whether a quorum is present at the meeting and canvas the stockholders present. Those stockholders who have not returned proxies have authorized the persons identified in the proxies to vote on the proposals coming before in before the meeting. On the record date, there were 3,780,000,006,138,000,156 shares of Oracle's common stock issued outstanding and entitled to vote at this meeting. A majority of these shares is present in person or by proxy and therefore a quorum necessary to transact business is present. The polls are now open.

If you have not voted yet or you previously voted but want to change your vote, please raise your hand and one of the monitors standing in the aisles will assist you. Okay, it's back there. The polls will close at the conclusion of the formal portion of the meeting. So please hand in your ballot proxy prior to the end of the formal portion of the meeting. So excuse me.

Speaker 5

It's okay.

Speaker 4

Thank you. I declare a quorum as present at this meeting. On behalf of Oracle's Board, I would like to express my appreciation to all stockholders who return their proxies or submitted ballots. There are 7 items of business on the agenda for this year's meeting: 3 management proposals and 4 stockholder proposals. All voting results announced today are preliminary.

Final vote totals for each of the proposals voted upon today will be made publicly available within the next few days.

Speaker 1

Okay. So we'll start with the management proposals. The first matter of business is the election of 14 directors to serve until the next annual meeting of stockholders. The nominees recommended by the Board of Directors are Larry Ellison, Jeff Henley, Safra Katz, Mark Hurd, Michael Boskin, Jeff Berg, Hector Garcina Molina, Naomi Seligman, George Conratis, Bruce Chisholm, Leon Panetta, Renee James, Wick Morman and Bill Parrott. Additional information about each of the nominees can be found on Pages 7 through 10 of Oracle's proxy statement.

Will the Secretary announce the results of the vote? Each nominee for election to

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the Board of Directors has received the affirmative vote of a majority of Oracle's outstanding shares of common stock present and entitled to vote at this meeting.

Speaker 1

So I declare that all the nominees for Director have been duly elected. The next item of business is the non binding advisory vote by stockholders on the compensation paid to Oracle's named executive officers as disclosed in Oracle's proxy statement filed in connection with this meeting. This is commonly referred to as say the say on pay vote. Will the secretary please indicate the results of the vote? This proposal received the affirmative vote of

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a majority of Oracle's outstanding shares of Commerzbank President entitled to vote at this meeting.

Speaker 1

Thank you. The stay on pay proposal has been approved. So the next matter is the ratification of appointment of Ernst and Young LLP as Oracle's independent registered public accounting firm by the Finance and Audit Committee of the Board of Directors. The Board of Directors recommends the ratification of the appointment of Ernst and Young as our independent registered public accounting firm for the fiscal year 2019. Will the secretary announce the results of the vote?

Speaker 4

This proposal also received the affirmative vote of a majority of Oracle's outstanding shares of common stock present and entitled to vote at this meeting.

Speaker 1

Okay. The appointment of Ernst and Young as Oracle's independent registered public accounting firm for fiscal year 2019 has been duly ratified. The next item of business is the proposal submitted by the Pax World Mutual Funds, a stockholder of Oracle. The proposal which appears on Page 58 of Oracle's proxy statement, requests that the company provide a report disclosing certain information regarding pay equity. We understand that Heather Smith will represent PACS World Mutual Funds at this meeting.

Is Heather Smith present? So pursuant to the rules of conduct for the meeting, you will have up to 5 minutes to present the proposal.

Speaker 6

Good morning and thank you, Mr. Vice Chairman. My name is Heather Smith, and I am here to present Proposal Number 4 on behalf of PAX World Funds. For the 2nd straight year, the PAX World Funds proposal requests that Oracle issue a report identifying whether a gender pay gap exists among its employees. And if so, outline the steps being taken to reduce the gap.

Despite strong shareholder interest in Pay Equity reporting, nearly 40% of the voting shares supported our proposal last year, Oracle still does not provide any public reporting on gender pay equity. We believe this issue is particularly relevant to Oracle given ongoing lawsuits concerning its pay practices. Pay and equity and advancement opportunities for women are concerns in the technology industry, and there is a long standing gender and racial pay gap in the U. S. And a study by Glassdoor has found an unexplained gender pay gap for women in the information technology sector of nearly 6%.

Mercer reports that women continue to be significantly underrepresented in the technology sector and their representation falls as they move through the talent pipeline. Oracle's current workforce composition reflects this as women comprise 29% of the company's employees, but just 23% of its leadership and these metrics are unchanged since 2016. Committing to and ensuring equal pay for equal work can help address this gap. Research has found that active management of pay equity is a crucial driver of gender diversity in organizations. Greater gender diversity has been correlated with improved company performance as well as increased innovation and better problem solving, which is particularly relevant to the technology industry.

By failing to comprehensively address pay equity issues, Oracle may be placing itself at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to talent recruitment, retention and employee productivity. Payscale reports that employee satisfaction goes up and intent to leave goes down when there is more transparency This includes This includes Apple, Amazon, Cisco Systems, eBay, HP, Intel, and SAP among others. We believe that Oracle, an S and P 100 company with 137,000 employees worldwide can and should do more. A recent survey by Just Capital found that 63% of Americans believe that CEOs of large companies should speak out on important social issues like the gender pay gap and discrimination. For these reasons, we believe that both Oracle and its stakeholders would be well served by greater transparency concerning its pay equity policies and practices.

This approach would assure investors that Oracle is proactively managing this issue as part of its overall diversity and inclusion strategy, position the company to achieve greater diversity and reduce regulatory and reputational risks. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you. The Board opposes this proposal for the reasons described in the proxy statement. So will the Secretary announce the results of the vote? This proposal was defeated by

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a majority of Oracle's outstanding shares of common stock present and entitled to vote at this meeting.

Speaker 1

Okay. I declare that the stockholder proposal regarding a pay equity report has been defeated. The next item of business is the proposal submitted by the New York State Common Retirement Fund, a stockholder of Oracle. The proposal which appears on Page 60 of Oracle's proxy statement requests that the company provide a public report disclosing certain information regarding political contributions. So again, we understand that Heather Smith will again represent the New York State Common Retirement Fund at this meeting.

So as I stated before, you have up to 5 minutes to make your statement.

Speaker 6

Thank you. Once again, my name is Heather Smith, and I am here today on behalf of the New York State Common Retirement Fund to present the Fund's resolution calling on Oracle to fully report on its political spending and its process and procedures for making political contributions with corporate funds. As long term shareholders of Oracle, the Fund supports policies that apply transparency and accountability to corporate political giving. In its view, such disclosure is fully consistent with public policy in regard to public company disclosures. Company executives exercise wide discretion over the use of corporate resources for political purposes, Relying only on the limited data available from the Federal Election Commission and the Internal Revenue Service can give shareholders an incomplete picture of the company's political spending.

The New York State Fund believes that a complete disclosure by the company is necessary for shareholders to be able to fully evaluate the political use of corporate assets. Therefore, on behalf of the New York State Common Retirement Fund, I submit the resolution on political disclosure found in your proxy materials. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. The Board opposes this proposal for the reasons again we described in the proxy statement. So will the Secretary announce the results of the vote?

Speaker 4

This proposal was defeated by a majority of Oracle's outstanding shares of common stock present and entitled to vote at this meeting.

Speaker 1

I declare that the stockholder proposal regarding the political contributions report has been defeated. So the next item of business is the proposal submitted by Boston Common Asset Management and Walden Asset Management, stockholders of Oracle. The proposal which appears on Page 62 of Oracle's proxy statement requests that the company provide a public report disclosing certain information regarding lobbying. We understand that, Colin Mu will represent the proponents at this meeting. Is Mr.

Mu present? Okay. So pursuant to the rules of conduct for the meeting, you will have up to 5 minutes to present the proposal.

Speaker 7

Thank you. Fellow stockholders and members of the Board, my name is Colin Mue and on behalf of Boston Common Asset Management and filer Walden Asset Management, I hereby move Proposal 6 asking our company to provide a report on its state and federal lobbying expenditures, including indirect funding of lobbying through trade associations. Transparency and accountability on corporate spending to influence public policy are in the best interest of Oracle shareholders. Our company has spent over $68,000,000 from 2010 to 2017 on federal lobbying according to opensecrets.org. This figure does not include expenditures to influence legislations in states where Oracle also lobbies, but 20 from 2010 to 2017 and reportedly lobbied in 35 different states from 2010 through 2014 according to the Center For Public Integrity.

Corporations contribute millions to trade associations that lobby indirectly on their behalf without specific disclosures or accountability. Absent a system of accountability, company assets could be used for objectives contrary to Oracle's long term interests. Unlike many of its peers, including Intel and Microsoft, Oracle does not disclose its membership in or payments to trade associations or the amounts used for lobbying. Oracle is listed as a member of the Business Roundtable, which spent $126,930,000 on lobbying from 2010 to 2017 and is lobbying against the rights of shareholders to file resolutions according to Reuters. Proxy Advisor ISS supports this proposal noting that Oracle does not provide comprehensive disclosure of its direct or indirect lobbying expenses.

Direct expenses at the federal level were estimated to be $9,000,000 in 2017. There is also minimal disclosure of the policies and mechanisms Oracle has in place to manage its participation in trade organizations, which may use its dues to lobby for policies that may conflict with the companies. This information could help shareholders evaluate the extent and management of the company's political activities and the relative risks and benefits. Our request for disclosure is a call for transparency and accountability for the spending of shareholder resources, and we urge stockholders to vote for this proposal.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Dean? Thank you. The Board opposes this proposal for the reasons described in the proxy statement. Will the Secretary announce the results of the vote?

This proposal was defeated by

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a majority of Oracle's outstanding shares of common stock present and entitled to vote at this meeting.

Speaker 1

I declare that the stockholder proposal regarding a lobbying report has been defeated. The next item of business is the proposal submitted by Kenneth Steiner, a stockholder of Oracle. The proposal which appears on Page 64 of Oracle's proxy statement requests that the Board adopt a policy requiring the Board Chair to be an independent member of the Board. We understand that Xin Zhao will represent Kenneth Steiner at this meeting. Is he present?

Okay.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Shareholders request our Board of Directors to adopt policy and amend our governing documents as necessary to require henceforth as the Chairman of the Board of Directors wherever possible to be an independent member of the Board. The Board would have the discretion to phase in this policy for the next Chief Executive Officer transaction implemented, so it does not violate any existing agreement. If the Board determined that a Chairman who was independent when selected is no longer independent. The Board shall select a new Chairman who satisfies the requirement of the policy within a reasonable amount of time.

Compliance with this policy is waived if no independent director is available and willing to serve as Chairman. Caterpillar and Wells Fargo are examples of companies changing course and naming an independent Board Chairman. Caterpillar had even opposed a shareholder proposal for an independent Board Chairman at its annual meeting. There is plenty of work for an independent Chairman of Oracle. Independent Chairman is more likely to see that Oracle has more independent directors.

6 Oracle directors each had from 16 to 40 years long tenure. The lead director had 24 years long tenure, perhaps the longest tenure of any lead director in the Fortune 500, long tenure can impair the independence of a director no matter how well qualified. Independence is a priceless attribute in a director. Safra Cat received 135 $1,000,000 total realized pay in 2017 and each director on the executive pay committee received negative votes for negative votes of 13% to 28%. The oracle C on executive pay proposal received more negative votes from shareholders than positive votes.

Each director on the audit committee received a negative vote of 14 percent to 33%. Directors at other committees typically receive 5% in negative vote. And the Chairman of the Nomination Committee received 33% in negative vote. This proposal topic won 44% support at previous Oracle Annual Meeting. This 44% support would have been higher, for instance, 47% if small shareholders had access to independent corporate governance advice.

So please vote yes for Independent Board Chairman. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you. The Board opposes this proposal for the reasons described in the proxy statement. Will the Secretary announce the results of the vote? This proposal was also defeated by

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a majority of Oracle's outstanding shares of common stock present and entitled to vote at this meeting.

Speaker 1

I declared that the stockholder proposal regarding an independent Board Chair has been defeated. So this concludes the formal part of the meeting. I declare that the formal part of the meeting is adjourned and the polls are now closed. So we're now at the part of the meeting providing for general questions and discussion. Anyone wishing to address the meeting should rise and raise your hand for recognition.

Please state your name and indicate whether you are a stockholder or a proxy for a stockholder and proceed with your question when called. Each person will be limited to one question or comment. So please limit any questions or comments to 2 minutes and we'll answer as many questions as possible until we run out of time. Please note that our answers to stockholder questions may include expectations, predictions, estimates or other information that might be considered forward looking. While our forward looking statement represents our current judgment on what the future holds, we're subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.

You should view our most recent Form 10 ks, Form 10 Q for a discussion of risks that may affect our future results or the market price of our stock. You're cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which reflect our opinions only as of today. Please keep in mind that we're not obligating ourselves to update these forward looking statements in light of new information or future events. I now turn the mic over to Chairman, Chief Technology, Larry Ellison.

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This gentleman right

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here. Good morning. I'm Bill Kelly from San Diego. And first for Mr. Ellison's benefit, I have to admit being a sailor, starting with El Toros and winding up with aircraft carriers.

Speaker 5

I built an El Toro when I was a kid out of plywood. Neat.

Speaker 8

The focus of Oracle is generally in the business sector and fringe activities around. I'm wondering if there might be an opportunity for us, that is for Oracle, to make a contribution in the area of countering outside election influences, particularly foreign shores?

Speaker 5

Well, again, Oracle Corporation is doesn't run a public website like Facebook or Google. So, we don't deal with masses of consumers. So we have less of an opportunity to influence elections or counter the influence of elections. Actually, I thank God every day for that. So, while I think we have to rely on other tech companies that do have a very large public presence to be as balanced as they're able to be while having a young progressive employee base.

So again, companies have personalities. Those personalities are reflected in their public postures. I think everyone sees that in Silicon Valley, in Apple, in Facebook and Google. Again, Oracle is primarily a B2B company. We don't deal directly with consumers, otherwise known as voters.

Therefore, we don't have the we really don't have the opportunity to influence an election one way or another.

Speaker 9

If I could just add that our technology though was used extensively in this election to protect the vote in multiple states. In fact, we were part of keeping the vote safe and to avoid any hacking or interference in the actual vote itself?

Speaker 3

Yes. Anthony Fisher, stockholder. I wanted to ask the question, what going forward are the major growth areas within Oracle? And who is your major challengers?

Speaker 5

[SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] We have 2 major growth areas. The cloud is divided into 2 segments. There are business applications is one segment. This is and there we have competitors like salesforce.com, SAP and Workday. And we have an enormous opportunity to be we are overwhelmingly the number one cloud provider of ERP systems.

SAP was the number one cloud provider number one provider VRP systems on premise, the previous generation. Right now, we're overwhelmingly the number one ERP provider in the cloud. And that is the largest application segment in the cloud. So that's extremely important for us. In the previous generation of on premise applications, SAP was the number one company and we were the number 2 company.

We have a chance to reverse that, where in this new generation of cloud applications, we well expect to be this is one of those forward looking statements. We well expect it to be the number one SaaS or the number one cloud application company in the world, led by our very strong position in the back office in ERP, in supply chain and manufacturing. So that's one huge opportunity for us. The other opportunity is our other business, the technology business, where in the previous generation of on premise, we were by far the number one database company in the world. We need to hold on to that franchise and deliver our database in a cloud form where we previously delivered it in an on premise form.

And with the Generation 2 of our infrastructure, which literally we've just released at Oracle Open World, with Generation 2 of our infrastructure, we think we can deliver a database that is vastly superior to what Amazon has, where Amazon is our primary competitor along with Microsoft, those 2. And we demonstrated this year that our autonomous database is unique in the marketplace and it's the only database that is self driving there. You don't need database administrators. You don't need talented engineers to run the database anymore. It runs itself.

It's like a self driving car. Amazon and Microsoft have nothing like an autonomous database. In addition, for example, this database discovers automatically discovers a security threat. No human beings involved. And the database will automatically fix itself and prevent the threat, block the threat, while the database is still running.

There's no other system in the world that can do anything like this. So we automatically we autonomously detect security threats and autonomously repair those threats while our database is still running. That gives us a huge advantage over anybody else in terms of reliability, security, what's called availability or uptime. So we have a huge advantage in the cloud with our database in terms of again those things, security, reliability, performance. The other thing that is shocking that if you want to take if you want those advantages, so those advantages are important to you, you got to be willing to pay less, because our database costs about 1 5th.

Amazon is 5 times more expensive for their database. Our database which runs itself automatically costs 1 5th as much as Amazon's database that is run by human beings. Human driven database, 5 times more expensive than an autonomous database. So we think we have a huge advantage in the database business. Our new cloud infrastructure, we think is again a 2nd generation cloud infrastructure, which is much better than what Amazon has or what Microsoft has.

And we think that will allow us to hold on to and actually increase our database franchise. Well, I think our main challenges are always making sure that we can recruit and retain. I mean, all we are is a group of people. I mean, we're a tech company. So we've got to identify, recruit, train and retain the top talent going forward.

I mean, we have long been the large one of the largest, if not the larger of recruiters of MIT engineers in the world. So we recruit at elite engineering companies. And it's very important that we get the right people recruited into the company, the right people trained and the right people retained. Our most precious assets drive home every evening and come back the following morning.

Speaker 10

My name is Zhang. I'm a stockholder from Mountain View. I have a question to Mr. Allison. You've been investing a lot in Switzerland in regards to cancer project and as well as USC.

Is it part of Oracle project? And why?

Speaker 5

I'm sorry, I missed some of that. You're

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asking about your investment in cancer

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in Switzerland and U.

Speaker 5

S. USA. Let's see. Well, I lost my mother to cancer. I lost my best friend, Steve Jobs, to cancer.

It's a horrible disease. It's devastating. It's actually cancer is actually many different diseases, some of which we're making great progress on. Some the first miracle cancer drug was a cultureceptin that actually cured pretty much cured breast cancer if you had a HER2 positive type of breast cancer. So I've decided to spend a good deal of money and spend my time helping to recruit scientists to try to discover more herceptants and better therapies to provide better outcomes for cancer patients.

I think in fact, I don't know anybody who hasn't lost a dear family member or friend to cancer. So it seems like a good use of money and time.

Speaker 11

Hello. My name is Bruce Whitson. I'm a stockholder, former employee. With the change in administration over the last 2 years at a federal level, knowing that maybe 55% of the revenue comes from the Americas and a significant portion of that I imagine comes from the U. S.

Has there been any regulatory changes, which I think is indicative of perhaps the political party that has come into power in the U. S. That has either had a positive or detrimental effect on overall revenue or regulatory compliance? I don't know whether that's Secretary Pinera or anyone else on the Board. Well, I don't want

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to answer all the questions. But I think one thing that's been very helpful, I think, to the economy and to our company in particular is the allowing the repatriation of a lot of funds that were kind of marooned overseas, and we couldn't bring them back without very, very high taxes and big impact to our earnings. So I think that allowed us and other companies to build bring several $1,000,000,000,000 back into this country.

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I

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think that was a good thing. I know people give different people credit for the economic growth we're now experiencing in North America. Some people credit Barack Obama, some people credit the current administration. It doesn't really from my point of view, I'm just happy that we have good economic growth and we're up over 3% again. That's all very helpful.

But other I'm sure other people have opinions on this. Doctor. Bhaskar?

Speaker 3

Overall, there has been an attempt to roll back what the Republicans thought of as excesses of regulation. Some were done more or less for the first time by something called the Congressional Review Act, which enabled Congress to go back and revoke or amend regulations that they had been involved in putting in place over the previous period. Some were done administratively, Some are being challenged in court as they were under President Obama. So we need sensible rules and regulations for a variety of activities, But when they get overbearing, they impose lots of costs. They wind up harming companies, especially harmful to smaller companies, which can't amortize the fixed cost over a larger sales base.

They affect where companies do business and so on. So I think overall that's changed. Technology has been a sector that is not regulated very much, only in kind of in the periphery. There are some work labor laws and other things that are regulated. There's been a lot of talk about in both parties about regulating some of the some other technology companies, not so much directed at Oracle, but at Facebook and Google and some others about the intersection of their position in the market and their potential monopolization over information and potential biases and how it's handled and so on and so forth.

The Europeans have moved aggressively with data privacy directive that has some effect on us, but it's directed primarily at companies like Google and Facebook and so on. And they're starting to find those companies and address some of their business practices. European antitrust law is a bit different than American antitrust for the economy, I mean, we're also in Oracle's interest, but for the good of the the economy, I mean, also in Oracle's interest, but for the good of the economy and our society, it would be good to reach a balance that sensible, neither overbearing and stifling innovation, nor so light that we wind up with some of the problems that people have pointed to in the last few years.

Speaker 1

Okay. All right. It seems like that's all the questions. So again, the means adjourned. Thank you.

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