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Earnings Call: Q2 2013

Aug 29, 2012

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Oxford Industries, Inc. second quarter fiscal 2012 financial results conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Ms. Anne Shoemaker, Treasurer. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Anne Shoemaker
Treasurer, Oxford Industries

Thank you, Jamie, and good afternoon, everyone. Before we begin, I would like to remind participants that certain statements made on today's call and in the Q&A session may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees, and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements. Important factors that could cause actual results of operations or our financial condition to differ are discussed in the documents filed by us with the SEC. We undertake no duty to update any forward-looking statements. Also, during this call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. You can find a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures in our press release issued earlier today, which is posted under the Investor Relations tab of our website at oxfordinc.com. Now I'd like to introduce today's call participants.

With me today are Hicks Lanier, Chairman and CEO; Tom Chubb, President; Scott Grassmyer, CFO; Terry Pillow, CEO of Tommy Bahama; and Doug Wood, President of Tommy Bahama. Thank you for your attention. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Hicks Lanier.

J. Hicks Lanier
Chairman and CEO, Oxford Industries

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us to discuss our second quarter results. We are pleased to report strong growth in both sales and earnings for the second quarter, driven in particular by excellent performances in our Tommy Bahama and Lilly Pulitzer direct-to-consumer businesses. We achieved these results while at the same time making significant investments in the future growth of our company. Among other things, we signed a lease for a Tommy Bahama retail store that will open later this year in Hong Kong, bought the business of an Australian Tommy Bahama licensee, and recruited a highly qualified executive to serve as Senior Managing Director of Tommy Bahama International. We also continued to expand the Lilly Pulitzer direct-to-consumer footprint by opening three stores so far this year, and we expect to open a fourth in December.

Finally, we were able to significantly improve our already strong balance sheet by completing the redemption of our senior secured notes and increasing our revolving credit facility to $235 million. We believe the amended revolver is very attractively priced and gives us ample financial capacity to execute our strategy. As we begin the second half, the health of our key growth brands is outstanding, and our people are well prepared to complete a great year. I'll return with some closing comments before Q&A, but I'd like to now turn the call over to Terry Pillow to discuss Tommy Bahama's results for the quarter. Terry?

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

Thank you, Hicks. The strong momentum in the Tommy Bahama business continued through the second quarter. Sales in the second quarter were fueled by the best Mother's Day we have ever had, and we were fortunate to then head into a very strong Father's Day. Net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2012 increased 16.8% to $127.5 million. Comparable store sales in our full-price stores were in the low double digits. We saw substantial increases in our e-commerce channel of distribution. The fastest growing segment of our direct consumer business was women's, which grew 29% over last year. The women's business was led by dresses and accessories, and the men's continued to see growth in both knits and wovens. We also had a modest increase in our wholesale business for the quarter.

At the end of the second quarter, we operated 105 retail stores compared to 90 on July 30th, 2011. We opened four new stores in the U.S. and one in Singapore in the second quarter. In July, we also acquired our Australian licensed business and folded it into our international operations. The licensee operated four small resort retail stores and one outlet, as well as a limited wholesale distribution. We expect this to be a good market for Tommy Bahama, with an opportunity for future growth in major Australian cities. We continue to build our international infrastructure with systems and staffing. During the second quarter, we added a very experienced Hong Kong-based senior managing director of international to the Tommy Bahama team. SG&A increased in the quarter, primarily related to growth initiatives for the brand.

In addition to costs associated with operating additional retail stores, the second quarter of fiscal 2012 included a negative impact to operating income of approximately $3.5 million related to certain infrastructure, pre-opening rent, and other costs associated with Tommy Bahama's international expansion and upcoming N.Y. store. This consisted of $4 million of expenses, partially offset by $500,000 of gross margin from sales in our international stores. As a result, Tommy Bahama's operating income for the second quarter was $16.6 million, compared to $17 million in the quarter of fiscal 2011. We are looking forward to November when we plan to roll out three high-profile retail stores. During the quarter, we signed a lease and began a build-out of our 5,000 sq ft store in the Wan Chai district of Hong Kong giving us a major store in this important international gateway.

Our plans are to open this store in early November. Tommy Bahama sails into Manhattan Island. Our marketing plans for holiday include a well-integrated approach using mailers, our website, and an extensive pre-opening marketing campaign in New York. A new barricade wrap will be at our New York site in the next few weeks, reflecting this holiday marketing campaign, and we expect to open both our New York flagship and our Michigan Avenue store in Chicago in mid-November. We clearly have a lot of important brand growing initiatives, and we believe that this is, along with a fantastic product and an exciting integrated marketing campaign, sets us up well for the holiday season. I'll turn the call over to Tom Chubb to discuss the results of the rest of our operating groups.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Thanks, Terry. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Lilly Pulitzer reported a net sales increase of 24.5% to $30.9 million for the quarter. All channels of distribution reported increases. We saw high single-digit comparable store sales increases and significant increases in both e-commerce and wholesale. We saw growth in all product categories with particular strength in sportswear. As a result of increased sales and gross margins, Lilly Pulitzer's operating income increased 32% to $7.4 million from $5.6 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2011. Operating margins were a very strong 24%. Lilly Pulitzer has opened three stores in 2012, SouthPark in Charlotte, Phipps Plaza in Atlanta, and Towson Town Center in Baltimore. Each of these stores represents our smaller store model, and we couldn't be more delighted with their performance.

A fourth store is planned for December in Tysons Galleria in suburban Washington, D.C., and we are filling the pipeline quickly. E-commerce also continues to impress with dramatic growth. E-commerce is well established as a full-price vehicle. In addition, our semiannual e-commerce sales are proving to be a very effective clearance channel, while at the same time creating tremendous excitement among diehard Lilly fans, as well as introducing new customers to the brand. Fall will remain our smallest season by far. That said, our fall collection is selling well, and we will be well-positioned for the upcoming resort holiday season. We saw modest but important progress at Ben Sherman this quarter, notwithstanding a very difficult consumer climate in the U.K. and Europe.

Ben Sherman reported slightly lower sales of $20.1 million for the second quarter compared to $20.9 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2011, improved operating results with an operating loss of $1.5 million compared to an operating loss of $1.8 million in the same period last year. The improvement in operating results was primarily due to higher gross margins, partially offset by the lower sales and decreased royalty income. Net sales for Lanier Clothes increased 8.1% to $24.8 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2012. Operating income in the second quarter was $2.4 million, slightly ahead of last year's operating income of $2.3 million. With an operating margin of 9.7%, Lanier continues to make solid contributions to our business.

Corporate and Other reported an operating loss of $4.6 million for the second quarter of fiscal 2012 compared to an operating loss of $5.4 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2011, with the improved results reflecting the favorable impact of LIFO accounting. I'll now hand the call over to Scott Grassmyer to comment on our consolidated financial results.

K. Scott Grassmyer
CFO, Oxford Industries

Thanks, Tom. I'll now walk through our consolidated results. As Hicks mentioned, we had a strong sales increase over last year and as a result, earnings from continuing operations on an adjusted basis increased to $0.65 per share compared to $0.57 per share last year. On a U.S. GAAP basis, earnings from continuing operations per diluted share were $0.30 in the second quarter of fiscal 2012 compared to $0.21 the same period of the prior year. Adjusted earnings per share for both periods excludes charges related to the repurchases, senior secured notes, a change in the fair value of contingent consideration and LIFO accounting adjustments. Consolidated gross margins increased modestly to 57.2% of sales compared to 57% in the second quarter of fiscal 2011, reflecting the favorable impact of LIFO accounting.

SG&A for the second quarter fiscal 2012 was $100.7 million or 48.7% of net sales

Compared to $88.6 million or 49.1% of net sales in the second quarter of fiscal 2011. The company achieved this modest leveraging of SG&A while making investments of approximately $4 million in the Tommy Bahama international expansion and New York store. We continued to incur pre-opening rent expense as we build out New York, Tokyo, and now our store in Hong Kong. The increase in SG&A dollars was primarily due to the above-mentioned investments, the cost of operating additional retail stores, and other SG&A expenses to support the growing Tommy Bahama and Lilly Pulitzer businesses. Royalties and other operating income for the second quarter of fiscal 2012 were $3.3 million compared to $4 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2011. The decrease is primarily due to lower royalty income in Ben Sherman due to the impact of macroeconomic conditions on international licensees and transitions between certain licensees.

We are very pleased with the 14.7% increase in operating income for the quarter to $20.3 million. Interest expense for the second quarter of fiscal 2012 was $3.3 million compared to $4.3 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2011. The decrease in interest expense was primarily due to the repurchase of $45 million of our 11.375% senior secured notes last year. This July, we redeemed the remaining $105 million outstanding notes, which will result in further decreases in interest expense going forward. We anticipate that interest expense for each of the third and fourth quarters of fiscal 2012 will be approximately $1.1 million. The effective tax rate for the second quarter of fiscal 2012 was 36%, higher than last year's rate of 32.2%. The effective tax rate in both periods benefited from certain discrete items.

Total inventories at the close of the second quarter of fiscal 2012 were $88.4 million, compared to $77.7 million at the close of the second quarter of fiscal 2011. Our increased inventory levels reflect the anticipated sales growth and the operation of additional retail stores by Tommy Bahama and Lilly Pulitzer. As Hicks mentioned, in the second quarter of fiscal 2012, we made important changes in our capital structure. In June 2012, we amended and restated our U.S. revolving credit facility new credit agreement. The facility increased from $175 million to $235 million, with additional borrowing capacity provided by the inclusion of certain trademarks as collateral. In July 2012, we redeemed all of our outstanding 11.375% senior secured notes, which were scheduled to mature in July 2015.

Redemption of the $105 million in notes resulted in a $9.1 million charge comprised of a $6 million premium payment and the write-off of approximately $3.1 million of unamortized deferred financing cost and unamortized bond discount. Redemption of the notes was funded through borrowings under our U.S. revolving credit agreement and cash on hand. As of July 28th, 2012, we had $95.2 million of borrowings outstanding and $95.1 million of unused availability under this credit agreement. As we continue to make investments in our brands, capital expenditures for fiscal 2012, including $27.3 million incurred during the first half of fiscal 2012, are expected to be approximately $60 million. These expenditures consist primarily of costs associated with opening new retail stores in the U.S. and Asia, information technology investments, retail store remodeling, and distribution center enhancements.

For fiscal 2012, we affirmed our previously issued guidance of adjusted earnings from continuing operations per diluted share in a range of $2.85-$2.95 and net sales of $850 million-$865 million. I'd note that we were able to affirm our previously issued guidance despite the increased impact of expenses associated with the Tommy Bahama international rollout in the New York store. The earnings estimates for the year include a negative impact to operating income of approximately $14 million compared to our early estimate of $12 million. The increase is primarily due to pre-opening expenses associated with the high-profile store in Hong Kong, the addition of a senior managing director of international, and costs associated with the acquisition of Tommy Bahama's Australian licensed business. We've already incurred $5.9 million of the estimated $14 million during the first half of the year.

For the third quarter ending on October 27th, 2012, the company anticipates net sales in a range from $175 million to $185 million and adjusted earnings from continuing operations per diluted share of $0.18 to $0.23. For the seasonality of the Tommy Bahama and Lilly Pulitzer businesses and their significance to our results, the third quarter is a small sales quarter. This, along with the fixed expense structure of our retail businesses, results in a lower operating margin compared to other quarters. Our board of directors has approved a cash dividend of $0.15 per share. Oxford has paid dividends every quarter since it became publicly owned in 1960. Thanks for your attention. Now I'll turn the call back over to Hicks Lanier.

J. Hicks Lanier
Chairman and CEO, Oxford Industries

Thank you, Scott. Thanks for your attention to Diane. I believe we're now ready to take your questions. Jamie?

Operator

Thank you, sir. If you would like to ask a question at this time, please signal by pressing the star key followed by the digit 1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone today, please make sure your mute function has been turned off or pick up your handset to ensure that our equipment can hear your signal. If you do find that your question has already been asked and answered, you may remove yourself from queue by pressing star 2. Again, that is star 1 for any questions at this time. We'll take our first question from Edward Yruma with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Edward Yruma
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hi. Thanks very much for taking my question. Congrats on a good quarter. You guys gave some interesting statistics around the growth of the women's business. We've noticed that you've increased the amount of square footage that women's has received in a number of stores. Can you talk about the difference in performance in the women's business when you've added an incremental square footage, and if that's been a meaningful lift to your results?

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Terry, you want to take that?

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

Yeah, Ed, this is Terry. I'm glad you noticed. We have been, as our product has gotten better, which it has over the last few seasons and the last few years, we have started allocating a bit more floor space, especially in some of the new stores that we're opening. I can tell you that it's proportionately performing quite well. Even where we haven't increased the percentage of floor space, we're seeing increases as well. It's not just the increases we're seeing in women's is because we've allocated more space to them. It's organic all the way through our women's business. It's coming from both. In some of these stores, we were just in one the other day, and clearly, we have a breadth of product right now that when we were able to show that in the stores, clearly the guest responds to it.

It's coming from both angles.

Edward Yruma
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Got you. How should we think about the opportunity for the Tommy Bahama women's product in the wholesale channel other than in swim, which you guys seem to have a pretty wide distribution of?

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

We do have a very good distribution of swim. On the wholesale side in women's, as we do most things, it's a crawl, walk, run. We're just starting to get some traction in wholesale and sportswear for us. We wanted to make sure that we got it right, and we now do think we have it right, we'll start pursuing the wholesale business. It will come in due time.

Edward Yruma
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. My final question on Lilly Pulitzer. I know you guys have talked about success with your recent store remodel or your store size. If we think about this longer term, what do you think the right store opening cadence is for this business a couple of years out? Thank you.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Ed, growth is obviously important to us, and what we're looking for is sustained profitable growth. As you know, Lilly has really exceeded our plans in the first two years that we've had it. We've been very pleased with the pace. Obviously, it's growing at more than 20% a year. That's a good pace. They went from opening no stores for the several years before we bought them and no stores during the first year we owned them, to having opened 3 this year and a fourth planned for later in the year. At present, we think it's at least 3 to 4 next year, but there's things going on where we're adding infrastructure within the business to support retail store growth.

Like Terry commented on the women's wholesale for Tommy, we're going to take a crawl, walk, run approach and make sure we don't get out in front of ourselves. I think the store opening pace will pick up as the years go by. I would still think in the 3 to 4 range for next year.

Edward Yruma
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Got you. Thanks so much.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

We'll keep updating you quarterly on that.

Edward Yruma
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Super.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Eric Beder with Brean Murray.

Eric Beder
Analyst, Brean Murray

Good afternoon. Congratulations on a solid quarter.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Thanks.

Eric Beder
Analyst, Brean Murray

For Lilly Pulitzer, could you talk about, I know that Lilly Pulitzer has done very well at dresses, now we're entering fall where it's not as strong. You've talked about white pants and other key items. What are the key items for fall aside from dresses for Lilly Pulitzer?

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Well, I think the first delivery of fall for Lilly Pulitzer, Eric, they basically have three, 7/25, 8/25, 9/25. The 7/25 delivery was knit dresses, which were in Lilly Pulitzer colors, but fall sort of Lilly Pulitzer colors. If you go on the website, you can see them. There are a lot of sort of beautiful, what they call jewel tone colors, and I think they worked well for Lilly. That was the key look for 7/25. We've been pleased with the selling results. The 8/25 delivery, which has only been out there roughly a week, not even a week yet, but it's printed tops and colored bottoms. The initial selling on that has been quite good.

Again, this is something that's not too big of a stretch for Lilly, but at the same time, it is legitimate product, and then the 925 delivery is party dresses that are in, again, sort of fall fabrications and colors, but still consistent with the Lilly Pulitzer DNA. I think that everybody in the business feels very good about them. Third quarter is a very small quarter for us, Eric, and third and fourth are both small. That's probably going to continue to stay that way. We are seeing some success in what we're doing there.

Eric Beder
Analyst, Brean Murray

Okay, in Tommy Bahama women's, you said before you're about 30% of sales is women's. Is that still about the number, or has it gone up a little bit?

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

hedging up, but you're pretty on with the 30% number. As I've always said, Eric, our goal is to get it towards half our business, and it's grown nicely over the last couple of years, and we're encouraged by the growth that we see. The good news about that is the reason we're having a hard time getting it over 30%, the men's business keeps growing, which is kind of a high-quality problem to have, but it makes it a little bit harder to get to that. We're still charging at it.

Eric Beder
Analyst, Brean Murray

Okay. How should we think You took over the Australian distributorship. How should we think about the impact of that, I guess, on this year and going forward?

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

I'll let Douglas Wood handle that.

Douglas Wood
President and COO, Tommy Bahama

We're excited about Australia, but it's a really small business today and underdeveloped. We're looking at next year of adding at least one store, possibly in Sydney, and to try to grow more of the wholesale business there. Overall, it's still going to be a very small business for us.

Eric Beder
Analyst, Brean Murray

I guess the question is, last question to you, did any of the Chicagos or any of your store openings get pushed out from Q3 into Q4 or get pushed back in Q3 to kind of make it a little more Q4 weighted than we on the street had?

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

No, these are the target dates we've had on these stores that we've had Chicago and New York. I think we would've loved to open New York end of October, just we're not going to push it. These are stores that are very high profile stores. We need to get them right, and we will.

Eric Beder
Analyst, Brean Murray

Okay, great. We look forward to visiting the New York store.

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

Thanks, Eric.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Robin Murchison with SunTrust.

Robin Murchison
Analyst, SunTrust

Hi, good afternoon. Got a question for everybody here. Let me start out with Lilly Pulitzer, kind of piggybacking off of Eric's questions. In terms of the third quarter, is there a tick up in SKU count? I've seen the new product, and it strikes me as a tick up, but just wondering if there's an expansion there.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

I don't think there's a material increase in SKUs for the third quarter. I can't state that with absolute certainty, but getting over assorted is never a great thing in our business, and it's an area of focus for the management team at Lilly. They try to keep the line from getting too big, and I don't believe we've got a material uptick for Q3.

Robin Murchison
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay. Thanks, Tom. Having visited the fifth Lilly store, the personalization and the nice touches of the store looked fabulous. I have to admit, in my analyst mind, I'm thinking, "Good gracious, how much did this cost to build out?" Is that the prototype going forward? There's a lot of individual hand-painted and personalized stuff going on in the store, more than I usually see in specialty stores.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

That's a great question, what Robin is referring to, for those of you who haven't been in one of the newer Lilly Pulitzer stores, is that a lot of the decoration is individualized and sort of tailored to the locality. The Atlanta store includes a lot of sort of Georgia references, peach flowers and peaches, and magnolias, and magnolia blossoms, and that kind of thing. As to the cost of it, Robin, it turns out it's actually fairly economical for us to do that. The build-out that we see in Lilly Pulitzer per square foot currently is comparable to what we see in Tommy Bahama, where we're opening a lot of stores, and it's a very manageable expense. That painting is actually done by our print design team.

They plan out what they're going to do, the creative team up in King of Prussia, and then they actually fly down for a couple of days, sort of the week before store opening, and do that painting by hand. In fact, I believe you can go to the website right now, and there should be a video on there of the decoration process at the new store that opened recently in Towson, Maryland. It's quite entertaining to watch, but also would help answer your question. All the ladies you see in that video are

Robin Murchison
Analyst, SunTrust

Well, it's a beautiful store, as you do with all your stores. Will you comment on the Lilly web crash? I think that your sale, that first day it was down, at least seemed to be down half the day, and I know you did extend the sale a day or so. Were you able to correct it so the next time that doesn't happen? What can you tell us about that? Were you able to get what you wanted out of the sale and how did it all shake out?

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Basically, Robin, it was what our Chairman, Hicks Lanier, your good friend, would call a high-class problem. The demand so far exceeded our wildest expectations that even though we prepared for and tested for very high volume, it just went so far by even our upside expectations that it did crash for most of the first day. We did extend the sale. It absolutely blew away our expectations.

Robin Murchison
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

A little bit of frustration for customers, fortunately they were willing to stick with us, we just did a massive amount of business.

Robin Murchison
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

It was a very effective clearance channel for us, at the same time, we think it actually created a lot of excitement. As you know, the Lilly consumer tends to be quite enthusiastic about the brand, it's a party, basically.

Robin Murchison
Analyst, SunTrust

Two more, if I may, we'll switch gears for a second. Ben Sherman, you're obviously coming up against some easing average unit costs, can we just hear also what you're thinking in terms. We've all waited so long for some sort of a turn in this business. How are you feeling about the brand now? Is there anything to say coming out of some of the menswear shows, either in Italy or more recently, MAGIC, that you can share with us on that division? Then for Tommy, just relative to the Asian performance and the on-again, off-again slowdown that we continue to hear regarding Asia, any changes there in expectations? Thanks.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Okay. Robin, I'll handle the first one about Ben Sherman then flip it over to Terry and Doug to talk about Tommy Bahama, maybe. With regard to Ben Sherman, I think, Robin, as you know, we've been in this painful process of trying to reposition the brand upwards. I think we've had some success with that. It's been more difficult than we would've hoped. I think a lot of that has to do with the economic situation in the U.K., which is by far our biggest market, to a lesser degree, in continental Europe. That said, coming out of the menswear shows, both the Pitti show in Italy then the Las Vegas shows, as well as sort of selling in the U.K., we're in the middle of booking spring/summer 2013.

Where we are now, we project that we will have a nice increase versus spring/summer 2012, we still have some work to be done before we have secured all the bookings. I think most importantly, we expect that Well, really two things. I think that the proportion of better product that we're booking versus the old legacy type product will be much higher for this spring than last spring. We are making progress in the repositioning. The second thing is that the gross margins are in much, much better shape. In fact, that even showed up some this quarter, although you can't fully see it, we've started to see very meaningful improvement in gross margins there.

Whereas, you know, Ben Sherman probably got hit the hardest by some of the cost issues of any of our businesses, they have started to recover nicely from at least that issue. Still plenty of challenges, the gross margin picture is looking a lot better.

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

Okay, Robin, this is Terry. I'll answer your question on international. As you know, we've got two stores open in Macau. Both stores are very encouraging, quite honestly. The Macau store, where it's in The Venetian in Macau is we're finding and we're learning in both of these stores that primarily a mainland Chinese customer, without a whole lot of marketing, the acceptance they've shown toward the brand is very encouraging. The sizing that we've opened this with an international fit, it's being accepted very well. The Singapore store is on Orchard Road in a mall, the mall is still under construction. They're going to have a grand opening in the next few weeks, I think we'll get a truer read on exactly what Singapore is going to look like. It's a mix. It's a mix of expats and People.

We'll see on that. These two stores that we've opened are based with both mall stores. The next two, Hong Kong on Wan Chai, is a street location, Tokyo is a street location with a bar and a restaurant. We wanted to, in the initial international expansion, get as many diverse kind of stores open so that we could get a read on what the future is where we start the expansion and how we go forward and open more stores over there. I got to tell you, everything that we plan to do and everything we plan for these stores to do, they're doing, we're very encouraged about what we're seeing. Looking forward to continue bringing you up to speed on our international expansion.

Robin Murchison
Analyst, SunTrust

Good. Thank you for your time.

Operator

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question at this time, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Again, that is star one for questions. We'll go next to Susan Sansbury with Miller Tabak.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

Hi. Yes. I guess keeping on the international or Asian theme. Why did you buy the Australian license if it's so small and maybe some of the valuation metrics or cash purchase price? Second question is, you just hired a senior VP in charge of international. Does he have a name? Can you tell us about his background a little bit? I have a third one.

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

Yeah. Susan, this is Terry. His name is Raymond, and the reason I didn't mention his name, I can't pronounce it.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

Oh, that's fair.

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

He's a Frenchman. [Malharbi], I think is the best. Every time I mention it, he says I don't quite have it right. He's been living in that market for 20-plus years. Comes from a very great background in a lot of different businesses. Ferragamo, he ran Ferragamo's Asian business. Lancel, he ran early in his career. Chanel in the cosmetic side early on in his career. He was living in Shanghai, and he's since relocated to Hong Kong because that's where we're basically running a business out of. A highly seasoned executive that's really going to help us in understanding that market. We couldn't be happier about that. On the Australian question, I'll let Doug. Doug was heavily involved in the acquisition, and I'll let Doug talk about that.

Douglas Wood
President and COO, Tommy Bahama

I don't want to say that we're not excited about it. When I compare the size, it really comes down to the materiality of how big of an impact to our sales. When you look at Australia as a market, the entire country, the market's about the size of Southern California. Today, we've got these four really small resort stores that are licensed, opened up over the last five years. When we went to the license five years ago, we didn't have the infrastructure that we've now set up in Hong Kong to support an Asian store rollout. Really, it became a situation where we see an opportunity in Australia. We think we can actually grow the market to be much bigger than what it is today. It isn't an international fit in Australia. It's actually a U.S. fit in Australia.

There's a lot of good things that we can immediately get some economy of scales going there. It's a growth opportunity. It's actually a business we know, and that's already got some infrastructure. It just really made business sense, financial sense, but also branding sense.

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

Even though we said, this is Terry again, Susan, even though we said the stores are small, they're absolutely beautiful. This partner we had over there really understood the brand and really opened very brand-appropriate stores and very brand-appropriate locations. We've got a great history there and an infrastructure or a history that bodes well for the brand.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

Does the partner and/or the management team, store team, stay with you? Just in terms of timing, was the license up or was he running out of money or?

Douglas Wood
President and COO, Tommy Bahama

We bought back the assets. We kept the people. The licensee is now my wholesale rep and we actually have a presence in David Jones in Australia, and he has a relationship there. Mainly a men's wholesale licensee, and we're really underdeveloped in women's swim, women's sportswear. We just see a lot of opportunity there. It's a market that Australians travel as a group. There's just a lot of good reasons why it made sense, and it allows us to now go into some markets that I don't know if our licensee really had the capital to really expand the brand the way they needed to.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

Okay. We got the name of the senior VP. All right. I have two other questions, and I'll be really quick. I was in the Westchester Mall in White Plains and noticed that you're about to open a store there, which I think is great. Can you just refresh me in terms of the Tommy Bahama new store opening program for the balance of the year and beyond Westchester in this New York City metro region? What else is going to open?

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

We just opened in New York. It seemed to make sense. We've opened Garden State Mall. We've opened a store there. We've opened in King of Prussia. We've opened this, and these are all in Q2, Susan, Easton Town Center in Columbus, Ohio.

We've just opened a store in St. Louis, in the Galleria. We've opened in Houston Galleria in the quarter. Westchester, in the balance of the year, it will be Westchester, Chicago, Michigan Avenue, New York, Hong Kong. We are excited. The store in Westchester is a bit of a smaller build-out, it's still very ample for us to represent men's and women's appropriately. We're very excited. We've looked at that mall for years, couldn't find the right space. We were able to take a mall, divided up a couple of spaces there. If you saw that, you know who was in there.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

Yeah.

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

They've made room for us. We think we're a natural fit for that center. We think it's going to be good. Having said all of the new stores, we're very encouraged with the new stores that we've opened this year. They've opened with very little marketing that we do in these towns to great success. We're very happy about it and looking forward. We're looking at new stores every day that we're trying to look at for 2013 and 2014. Rather than just look for spaces to look for space, we're trying to make sure that we get the right space because we're in this for the long term.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

Okay. Some other Short Hills is on the agenda, or are you still?

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

I wish you.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

That's on the wish list.

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

We've been wishing for 20 years to get in Short Hills, and in the five years I've been here, we've had two spaces, and we haven't been able to put it together. We need a bigger space in Short Hills, and the spaces that we've been offered in Short Hills just haven't been. That's one mall where we think we can be very successful. We need space to really show women's and accessories and men's and do the whole thing there. We will get there. We're constantly talking to those people about getting in Short Hills. That's a natural for us.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

All right. I know people are waiting. Just one final question. I'll really pull it, sir. I may be wrong. I think comps slowed down in the second quarter from the first. Was that a comparison issue, an assortment issue, or a traffic issue, or am I totally wrong?

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

The comp increase was smaller in the second than in the first. Are you talking about the comp stores or the total sales?

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

Right. Well, I'm talking about comps, but also total sales. Same comment.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

I don't think they were materially lower, Susan. The business has been extremely strong, as we said, across all channels. That's wholesale, retail, and.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

Well, my expectations may have been too high.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Yeah.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

I'm just asking.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

No, you may be right. Maybe retail, the bricks and mortars were slightly higher in the first quarter of the comps, but they were still quite robust in the second quarter. The e-com, which is part of the total direct-to-consumer, has been very strong all year. I think we're very pleased with the results.

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

The new store openings have well exceeded our plan.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Absolutely. Excellent point.

Susan Sansbury
Analyst, Miller Tabak

Okay. All right. Best of luck for the upcoming run up. Well, for the back half, and great job. Talk to you later.

Terry Pillow
CEO, Tommy Bahama

Thank you.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Thank you.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Mike Richardson with Sidoti.

Mike Richardson
Analyst, Sidoti

Yeah. Hi, good afternoon. Actually, most of my questions have been answered. I do have just one quick one on Ben Sherman. You talked about seeing some gross margin improvement there. I apologize if I missed this. I'm just wondering how you're thinking about sales there for the year. I think on the last call, you had mentioned you were sort of planning them down mid-single digits.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

I think that's right. They'll be somewhere down just slightly, couple of points, I think, for the year, Mike. That's the net impact of adding slightly less good distribution than the bad distribution that we're subtracting. It's a bit of a give and take where you're trying to move up the ladder, and you're moving away from some less desirable distribution. At the same time, you're trying to add better distribution. We're actually growing in some areas, including direct-to-consumer, where we're growing in both bricks and mortar stores and in e-commerce, which we only had for a couple of months last year. We'll have for the full year this year. We're growing in some better wholesale distribution, but shrinking in some less desirable wholesale distribution. You add all that up, and the net is probably slightly down for the year.

Mike Richardson
Analyst, Sidoti

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you very much.

Thomas C. Chubb III
President, Oxford Industries

Okay.

Operator

At this time, I'm showing no further questions. I'd like to turn the call back to management for any additional or closing remarks.

J. Hicks Lanier
Chairman and CEO, Oxford Industries

Thank you, Jamie. In closing, I'd just like to say that our investment in our brands is significant, planned, and purposeful. We are confident that we will execute our long-term strategy effectively, and as a result, deliver meaningful rewards to our shareholders. Thanks for your time and interest today, and we'll look forward to our next call.

Operator

Again, that does conclude today's conference. We do thank you for your participation.