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27th Annual ICR Conference 2025

Jan 14, 2025

Moderator

I'm pleased to welcome Oxford Industries. Up on the stage here with me is CEO Tom Chubb. With him here at the conference is CFO Scott Grassmyer and Brian Smith, Director of Financial Reporting and Investor Relations. We're going to start with a handful of slides that Tom's going to run you through, and then we're going to get into some Q&A. So, Tom, I'll kick it over to you.

Thomas C. Chubb III
Chairman, President and CEO, Oxford Industries

Okay. Thank you, Brandon. Thank you for the introduction, and thanks to all of you for being here this morning. Happy 2025 to you. That's our Safe Harbor Statement. You can find that and a lot more investor information on our website at oxfordinc.com. Included on the website is an 8-K that we filed yesterday morning that includes all the slides that we're presenting here today. So if you've dialed in and you want to be able to look at the slides, or you're sitting in the back and you can't see them, they're on the website. They're part of the 8-K. So this is our North Star slide. We actually use this slide all the time in employee meetings, in investor meetings, and even our board of directors meetings.

We literally start off every board meeting with this slide, and it's just a reminder to us of what we're trying to accomplish. And it starts with our objective, which is to maximize long-term shareholder value. To do that, we've got to build a sustainable business that can last for the long term. And we also have to make sure we always conduct ourselves with ethics, integrity, and respect for people in everything that we do. Then our strategy for delivering that shareholder value is to own a portfolio of lifestyle brands that deliver sustained, profitable growth. Then the next one is a little bit different, but it's actually super important, and that's our purpose, which is to evoke happiness.

And when we do that, when we take our customers to their metaphorical happy place with our products, our brands, and most importantly, the wonderful service that our people deliver, the profitable growth tends to take care of itself. And then last is our focus, which is just a reminder that what we're really trying to do here is generate a lot of cash that we can then reinvest in growth in the business and the return of capital to our shareholders. So what does that all look like? Well, we've got seven brands: Tommy Bahama, Lilly Pulitzer, Johnny Was, Southern Tide, The Beaufort Bonnet Company, Duck Head, and Jack Rogers. You can see on the right, Tommy is the biggest part of our business. It's a bit over half of the total.

Then a lot of people talk omnichannel, but we truly are omnichannel, with 39% of our revenue coming from our own bricks-and-mortar stores, 34% from our own e-commerce websites, 19% from wholesale, and then 8% from our very unique and brand-enhancing hospitality business. We're listed on the New York Stock Exchange under ticker symbol OXM, and we've proudly paid a dividend every quarter since we went public in 1960. So 2024 has been a challenging year. We'll end that at the end of this month. We expect to end the year a little bit down in revenue and a bit down in earnings and operating margin. The issue has really been a consumer that's pulled back quite a bit on discretionary spending, and we think there have been a couple of things at work there. One is the cumulative effect of several years of high inflation.

The second is that this year in particular, there was just a lot of distraction in the marketplace with the election, all that went along with that, the wars, the hurricanes, the Olympics. There was just a lot of distraction, and we think that distraction was exacerbated, in our case, by our 45-and-up customer base, which tends to be both more headline sensitive and more market sensitive, and then our extreme exposure to Florida, which is about a third of our bricks-and-mortar business, and a little less than that if you look at all channels of distribution, but it's a very big part of the business. Despite all that, we continued to invest in the business with 30 new stores, several new Marlin Bars, and a new distribution center in process.

As we look to fiscal 2025 and really the end of 2024, we got past the election, sentiment started to improve, business really picked up quite a bit. Things are looking much more optimistic. We've got great plans for 2025. We're going to focus, and the number one priority is on expanding the operating margin. We've got great plans to do that. So this is Tommy Bahama. Nothing evokes happiness like the dream of living the island lifestyle, and we do that every single day in Tommy Bahama through our stores, our restaurants and bars, our hotel, our e-commerce website, and most importantly, the wonderful service that our people deliver to our customers every day, and by evoking that lifestyle business, we built a big, beautiful, sustainable business that's got a lot of white space still in front of it.

Lilly Pulitzer evokes happiness by taking people to a resort state of mind. Born in Palm Beach 65 years ago, Lilly Pulitzer is famous and known for its vibrant and optimistic colors and its unique proprietary prints. By taking those colors and prints and applying them to more contemporary, on-trend silhouettes, Lilly Pulitzer has managed to stay relevant to a continuing cycle of new girls and women up to this day. Johnny Was evokes happiness with its California Chic lifestyle. We bought this business in 2022. That probably wasn't the best timing given the downturn in discretionary spending that followed shortly the year after. But to be very direct about it, Johnny Was at this point is not performing at the level that we would like to see it perform. That said, we love this brand. We've got a great team there.

We've recently augmented that team with a couple of new positions and a couple of new hires. We love the affordable luxury pricing. We love the geographic footprint, which is more West Coast oriented than any of our other brands. We love the store economics. There's a lot to love about this brand, and with all that we have going for us and Johnny Was, we're confident that we can get it to the same levels of profitability as Tommy and Lilly over time, then we've got our emerging brand group. This is our four smaller brands, and this is a platform where those smaller brands can maintain brand and creative autonomy while still ensuring best-in-class execution. It gives them an opportunity to grow and also gives us a vehicle to onboard new brands as well. This is a very important slide.

Not a lot on there, but some really critical numbers, the first being that 2.8 million active customers. Active for this purpose means they bought something from us within the last 12 months, and you see that that number is up 37% above pre-pandemic levels, so we've grown the business by adding customers who are staying with us, and they spend at an average rate of $385 a year. We've added a lot of stores the last couple of years. It actually gets a little bit confusing because we've actually closed a handful but opened a lot. You see there we've laid it all out for you on the slide. If you go back two years ago to the end of the third quarter of 2022, we had 290 stores. We now have 342, so that's a net addition of 52 stores over the last two years.

We're also investing in a big DC in Georgia, which I mentioned earlier. As our business evolved and grew, we found ourselves with two issues. We were under capacity in East Coast distribution and a little bit over in West Coast. So we've adjusted some of the West Coast but are still shipping too much out of the West Coast that still ends up on the East Coast. So we're going to solve the capacity issue and the geographic issue by building this DC. It's about $130 million all in, state-of-the-art, highly automated. We spent about $75 million of that in 2024 with the balance to come next year. When we get it done, again, it addresses the geographic and capacity issue and also enables us to get e-comm orders in the hands of our customers much faster and replenish stores more frequently and more quickly.

And what all of that does is allows us to increase inventory times and fundamentally to do more business on less inventory. And that'll support all of our brands. For some of them, it'll be their only DC. For some of them, it'll support part of their needs. Then we've got a slide. Our objective here is to increase long-term shareholder value. There are two ways to do that: through the stock price, which is the line on the top, and it has increased over the last 10 years, albeit with a bit more volatility sometimes than we'd like. And at present, to be very blunt, it's not quite where we'd like to see it, but it is increasing over time. And then the other way that we create shareholder value is through our dividend, which are the bars along the bottom.

We've actually grown that over the last 10 years at a compound annual growth rate in excess of 12%. You've got our cash flow and capital allocation. We generated a very healthy $178 million in cash flow from operations last year. We invested that in the growth and future of the business with $120 million of CapEx and $9 million of acquisitions, and then the return of capital to shareholders with $43 million in dividends and $6 million in share repurchases. While doing all of that, we were still able to reduce our very modest amount of outstanding debt by about $7 million. Update on where we are in the quarter. Back in December, we issued guidance in our 8-K on Monday. We basically confirmed that guidance and said that we felt like we were right on track to deliver the guidance for the year.

I'll remind people, as we always do at this conference, that January is a very important full-price month for us, given all the resort business that we have. But again, we feel very good about our ability to deliver the fourth quarter. And with that, I'll get my friend Brandon here to help with some Q&A.

Moderator

Thank you. That was great. I know 2024 didn't play out like you expected, but I think it's important to note that overall operating margins are tracking to be above pre-pandemic levels. Your two largest brands, Tommy Bahama, Lilly Pulitzer, are still generating double-digit operating margins, as you just highlighted, really strong cash flow. So the financial foundation is pretty solid as we head into fiscal '25. So I just think that's important to note for the audience. Oxford has been in business over 80 years.

During that time, it's gone through some significant transformation from a manufacturer, private label, primarily wholesale business, to being an operator of some really strong retail brands. That strategy started with the acquisition of Tommy Bahama in 2003. I think since you guys have bought, or since Oxford's bought that business, that too has gone through a pretty meaningful transformation. So maybe just talk about some of the changes Tommy Bahama's undergone since under your ownership and kind of how that's changed maybe the market opportunity for that brand.

Thomas C. Chubb III
Chairman, President and CEO, Oxford Industries

Yeah, great question, and thanks for that question. And Tommy Bahama has just been an incredible acquisition for us that really transformed our company and gave us the jumping-off point to pivot from being, as Brandon said, 100% private label manufacturing to 100% lifestyle brands. And when we bought Tommy Bahama, some of the key things that have changed since then, the culture hasn't changed at all. A lot of the people that came with the company when we bought it are still there, including the CEO is still there. He was the COO at the time. But what has changed, the distribution has changed pretty dramatically. It was very much a wholesale business when we bought it. They did have some company-owned stores, and they did have the beginnings of the food and beverage concept.

But it's interesting, when we bought it, the founders thought it would never be more than one-third direct-to-consumer. And now you look at it, we're over 80% direct-to-consumer. And that's a massive shift, really, in not only the way the business looks from the outside, but how you run it from the inside. The next thing is the e-commerce website. We didn't have e-commerce when we bought it. It took about five years, and then we did that. And at the time that we started e-commerce, we thought it could be as big as our biggest store, but now it's in the $200 million range. So that's a big change.

We did have food and beverage, but it was the full-service restaurants, and we didn't have the Marlin Bar concept, which is our fast casual concept that's really where all the growth in the hospitality business has been for the last 10 years and just a great concept, and then the next thing I would touch on is really the women's business. They sold women's when we bought it, but it was very small and not particularly successful. At this point, we've worked very hard to get that women's proposition right, and we've managed to grow the business to 30% of Tommy Bahama's total at this point, which is great, but it also leaves us with a lot of white space because right now, if you think about it, we're two-thirds men and one-thirds women's. That's really sort of the inverse of what the market is.

If you're going to track the market, you'd be more like two-thirds women's and one-third men. And what that tells me is that among the white space that we have at Tommy Bahama is a huge women's opportunity, and we're really winning in that space right now. So those are some of the highlights on the changes.

Moderator

All right, and then maybe dovetailing that, you mentioned the Marlin Bars, the women's, maybe what are you most excited about for Tommy Bahama maybe over the next one to three years and not specifically just in 2025?

Thomas C. Chubb III
Chairman, President and CEO, Oxford Industries

I think it really is those two things, the continuing growth and development of the Marlin Bar concept, which ultimately does a couple of things for it. It's a great way to bring new customers into the brand. It's a great way to cement their love of the brand by giving them that complete 360-degree experience in the restaurant, the bar, and the retail store. And then what it does for our numbers, retail stores that have a food and beverage piece attached to them within Tommy Bahama do about twice the sales per sq ft that stores that don't have food and beverage do. So the potential to both on the customer side and just the sheer volume side are really quite big. And then the women's business.

I mean, we are fantastic in men's. We'll continue to grow in men's, but that huge opportunity in front of us on women's is super exciting.

Moderator

Great. Shifting gears, your second largest brand, Lilly Pulitzer, you acquired back in 2010. As you noted, this is an iconic brand that dates back to the 1950s. Touched on it a little bit, but with that distinct look, that history and heritage, how do you keep the brand relevant and attract kind of a younger consumer in this fast fashion world that we live in today?

Thomas C. Chubb III
Chairman, President and CEO, Oxford Industries

No, that's a great question, and a couple of things about Lilly that'll never change are its foundation and the vibrant optimistic colors and the proprietary hand-painted prints. Never change that. It'll always be about being in a resort state of mind, but what we need to do to stay relevant goes back to the three pillars of any brand: product, distribution, and communication, and so on product, what we've got to do is take those colors and those prints and apply them to more modern-looking, on-trend silhouettes, and we do this really, really well. If you look at our website, the colors and prints won't look all that different than what you've historically seen from Lilly Pulitzer for 65 years, but if you look at the silhouettes, they look very relevant to today's customer and marketplace, then the same thing on distribution.

And by that, I'm talking about stores, wholesale, e-commerce, and how all those fit together. The way that shoppers shop has changed over time, and we've very much evolved with that. I think we're very much at the forefront of that. And Lilly Pulitzer is one of the best omnichannel operators, I believe, in the market. And our customers are shoppers. They want to be able to shop in that modern way, and we give them that opportunity. And then communication is the third piece of it. And that's both sort of the broader communication, the generic marketing, and making sure we're showing up in the places where she's ingesting media in the ways that seem relevant to today's consumers. So we're doing that. We're all over digital. We're all over all the digital channels. We're doing events and activations and collaborations, all of which help.

And then it's also the more personalized communication with emails and SMS messages and that type of thing where we want to make sure that we're communicating with her in the way that she wants to be communicated. And by doing all those things, as I said in the prepared comments, I think we've done a great job of being able to stay relevant despite being 65 years old at this point.

Moderator

You showed some numbers with the customers you acquired over the last couple of years. Have you seen, I know that was a company-wide number, but maybe within Lilly Pulitzer, have you seen the average age and maybe come down and maybe you're reaching outside of its traditional markets?

Thomas C. Chubb III
Chairman, President and CEO, Oxford Industries

Yeah, well, so one of the great things about Lilly Pulitzer is it is truly a multi-generational brand. If you're familiar with the brand, you'll know that little girls absolutely love it, then when they become mothers, they not only want to give it to their daughter, but they want to wear it too. We have lots of Mommy and Me business, as we call it, where you can have the matching outfits, and then it goes all the way up to the grandmother and the great-grandmother, but by staying relevant, we have been able to actually keep that average age from going up over time, which is really important. We do, in all our brands, we've got a fairly mature customer. We're good with that, but we just want to make sure we don't get older over time.

And to keep from getting older, you got to keep bringing in a fresh crop of new customers.

Moderator

Great. The third largest brand in your portfolio, relatively new acquisition, you noted back in September of 2022, Johnny Was. You touched on the challenges. We'll get into that. But my question for you is, it's described as a California-based, affordable luxury, modern bohemian lifestyle apparel brand. That is a lot, so maybe just sum up, what is the brand's positioning? What does that all mean? And then why was that a good fit for your portfolio?

Thomas C. Chubb III
Chairman, President and CEO, Oxford Industries

Yeah. So I think the things that, again, we really love about it, it is California Chic. The sort of defining features of Johnny Was really the details of the product, and it's the embroidery and prints in particular, and then the way those two work together. If you're not familiar with the brand, I would very much encourage you to get into one of our stores and check it out. The product's absolutely beautiful. And then what we liked about it and what we still like about it are the team, the people, which we've augmented, but we love the team. And then it's the distribution with more of a West Coast geography. That was something that we were interested in solving for. It's the price point at affordable luxury.

It's a notch above where Tommy Bahama and Lilly Pulitzer are, and that was a territory that we were interested in getting into as well, and then the seasonality of it. Tommy and Lilly are both extremely spring-summer oriented. Johnny Was a little more level through the years. So we've got some work to do, and Johnny Was, but with the team we've got and the plan we've got, as I mentioned in my comments, we're confident that we can get it to those mid-teens kind of operating margins as Tommy and Lilly. Won't happen overnight, but we believe we can get there.

Moderator

Great. Well, I think we're out of time, signaling we got to stop. Last quick question. Most parents don't like to say who their favorite child is. I've done it before, so I'm going to put you on the spot. Out of your emerging brands, which one of those are you most excited about? We'll leave it at that.

Thomas C. Chubb III
Chairman, President and CEO, Oxford Industries

You know, I'm going to go with the cop-out answer of they're all unique, and I love them each for what they bring to the table.

Moderator

All right. Fair enough. All right. Thanks, Tom.

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