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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Jan 24, 2022

Operator

Welcome to the PetMeds's conference call to review the financial results for the third fiscal quarter ended on December 31, 2021. At the request of the company, this conference call is being recorded. Founded in 1996, PetMeds is America's most trusted pet pharmacy, delivering prescription and non-prescription pet medications and other health products for dogs, cats, and horses direct to the customer. PetMeds markets its products through national advertising campaigns, which direct customers to order online or by phone, and which are intended to increase the recognition of the PetMeds brand name. PetMeds provides an attractive alternative for obtaining pet medications in terms of convenience, price, ease of ordering, and rapid home delivery. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to the company's Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Bruce Rosenbloom.

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

Thank you, and I'd like to welcome everybody here today. I would also like to remind everyone that the first portion of this conference call will be listen only until the question and answer session, which will be later in the call. Also, certain information that will be included in this press conference may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 or the Securities and Exchange Commission that may involve a number of risks and uncertainties. These statements are based on our beliefs as well as assumptions we have used based upon information currently available to us. Because these statements reflect our current views concerning future events, these statements involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions.

Actual future results may vary significantly based on a number of factors that may cause the actual results or events to be materially different from future results, performance, or achievements expressed or implied by these statements. We have identified various risk factors associated with our operations in our most recent annual report and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Now let me introduce our CEO and President, Matt Hulett. Matt?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Thanks, Bruce. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us. My first several months as the CEO and President of PetMeds has been incredibly busy and exciting. I continue to believe that PetMeds is a terrific company with a talented and dedicated workforce serving a loyal customer base. By the way, we like to feature pictures of our customers' and employees' pets in our slide decks. You will see many original pictures throughout this presentation. In fact, this slide features my dog, Harry. As CEO, my continued commitment is to be open and transparent with all of our stakeholders as to how we are engineering the transformation of this iconic company.

Today, I will spend some time on our current status and share with you how we're thinking about our transition into a growth company, because we believe that this will provide some helpful insight into the business, our most recent results, and our future plans. We will kick off that discussion today by describing the overall market and the opportunity, as well as our financial progress through the December quarter. In addition, I will be providing a more detailed perspective on the actions and initiatives that we have begun since I joined in September. As we've covered in our previous earnings call, PetMeds operates in a very large and growing addressable market. The U.S. pet market is over $100 billion in annual sales, and it is expected to reach $120 billion by 2024.

The addressable pet medication market where we participate today is approximately $10 billion and growing rapidly. We are one of the leading pet pharmacies today. I hinted at a broader vision in our last earnings call, and we've been actively testing and investigating opportunities against this broader vision throughout the last quarter. Based on our research and testing, we now believe that PetMeds has exciting opportunities to address more customer needs than what our business focuses on today. Going forward, these opportunities will further expand our addressable market and allow us to bring even greater value to our customers. More on that later in this presentation. Not only are we operating in a large addressable market, we operate in a market that is growing and the behavior is favorable to digital retailers. U.S. household pet ownership has increased, and today seven out of 10 U.S. households have a pet.

Certainly, the macro effects of COVID have accelerated this trend, and now more than ever, pet parents are keenly attuned to the health needs of their pets. We believe these trends indicate that both new and existing pet parents will need more pet medications and other related healthcare and wellness services to provide the healthy and happy lifestyle they want for their pet family members. Consumers also now expect everything to be real-time, fast, and digital, a trend which has impacted every industry. As we have seen in other digital e-commerce verticals, the ongoing move towards digitization of retail is accelerating. Today, our addressable market is largely dominated by offline sales, but we see the growing trend of purchase online as very favorable to us. Pet parents see their pets as an extension of their own families, and they are increasingly demanding more healthy pet care options.

We see this as a positive trend for PetMeds and an opportunity for growth. Similarly, aligned with the trends in human health, pet parents are thinking through the entire spectrum of their pet's care, from diet to veterinary services, as well as the channels through which they access those products and services. Lastly, COVID also accelerated the increasing trend for the digitization of healthcare. Specifically in the pet market, regulations related to in-person veterinary visits and prescription fulfillment were temporarily waived for the first time during COVID and moved online in unprecedented ways. We have spent a considerable amount of time conducting research with the industry as well as with pet parents, and we are excited that these market dynamics should facilitate the acceleration of digital-based telehealth services in the pet industry.

During the last earnings call, we discussed some key PetMeds differentiators. I want to reiterate those because they are important, and I believe they provide a real edge for our company's transformation. First, our brand is widely known and trusted. In fact, here is an important update since our last earnings call. We just commissioned an extensive customer and market research study that showed that 55% of U.S. pet parents are aware of the PetMeds brand. Having a strong brand takes years to develop, and our customers look to PetMeds as their trusted pharmacy and pet medication expert. Second, we have strong operational and quality efficiencies of pharmacy. Our customer care integration with our pharmacy is world-class, which ensures that customers get their products delivered quickly and accurately. Additionally, our vet partners receive quality service delivered through our vet platform.

This operational efficiency is hardwired into the fabric of the company, which will enable us to effortlessly move into new health and wellness adjacencies. Our deep experience with the vet community is a competitive advantage. As we discussed in our last earnings call, we currently have one of the largest direct-to-consumer vet networks in the online retail space, with over 70,000 veterinarians that we have worked with over the company's history. Currently, our online vet portal has 17,000 active veterinarians and vet clinics. This is a core capability and asset because it enables us to expand our fulfillment capability as we scale our business. Our prescription medication authorization rates are the highest they've ever been, which speaks volumes to the level of veterinarian cooperation we receive on a daily basis. Our pet pharmaceutical category expertise is something that I view as a towering strength.

Many retailers can sell dog bones, but not everyone can provide medication and health advice at scale. Being a differentiated pet medication provider allows PetMeds to focus on our health and wellness offerings, especially as the market continues to become even more competitive. Again, more to come on where we see our brand and business going in the coming months. PetMeds currently enjoys a close and strategic bond with our many supply partners. Those relationships have developed over time to become even more strategic. We have direct relationships with all of our major suppliers, and we work together closely to market their products to our customer base. Our customer service and overall customer centricity ethos permeates throughout the culture and our team. We have a 100% lifetime guarantee to customers that we are committed to. We go the extra mile for our customers with truly empathetic and expert service.

We just don't have a transactional interaction with our customers, we have built trusting, genuine relationships. Our customers view PetMeds as a trusted pet health expert, and we take that responsibility seriously. I recently had the pleasure of listening to a phone interaction from a loyal customer of three years from Rhode Island. This customer, in particular, asked to talk to a manager. As we all know from our experiences as consumers, you typically ask to talk to a manager to escalate a problem or negative experience. This customer started off the call noting that "There's always a complaint box, but never a compliment box." This customer was calling to give us a compliment. She was amazed with the conversations that she has had with our employees over the last several years.

She stated, "Every time I call, everybody that answers the phone is always willing to go above and beyond to help me out to get it to me as soon as they can. I don't know what group of people you're pulling this pool of people that you're hiring from, but every single person has always been pleasant and helpful. It's unlike anything I've ever experienced. It's just refreshing." These types of customer interactions are commonplace at PetMeds, and in my experience, very uncommon in most companies. Before I address our earnings performance, I would like to address several reasons why PetMeds is a strong investment opportunity. PetMeds has a lot going for itself, including PetMeds is profitable with a pristine balance sheet. We do not have any debt.

We have approximately $109 million in cash and cash equivalents as of December 31st, 2021, and we are cash flow positive. PetMeds is moving from a transactional direct-to-consumer brand to a subscription business. Subscription businesses are clearly compelling business models to their predictable and stable recurring cash flows. We ended last quarter with approximately 25% of our customers enrolled in ordering via our AutoShip & Save subscription program, and that number continues to rise. We also continue to have a large base of returning customers, which is an indication of the quality service and the value that we deliver. We are fortunate to have a large base of over 2 million pet parents that have purchased from us over the last two years.

We have over 25 years of experience as a pure-play pet pharmacy, fully licensed in 50 states, delivering outstanding service and value. This domain expertise is what I would call the more complicated part of the pet ecosystem, which makes our progression into other segments much easier. Our customers just love our brand and our service. Our NPS score is over 80, which puts us in the upper quartile along with some of the most beloved brands in the world. Before Bruce Rosenbloom, our Chief Financial Officer, runs through Q3's financial results, I would like to contextualize how we thought about this quarter. I would characterize this quarter as a transitional quarter. After my years of transformation and turnaround experience, taking a business from a low to no growth company to a growth company does not happen overnight.

It usually takes several quarters of investment and foundational work in order to show meaningful operational progress when executing a business transformation. I will detail the operating rationale behind the numbers after Bruce's presentation. Now, I'd like to have Bruce review our financials for the quarter.

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

Thanks, Matt. Now we will review the financial results. We will compare our third fiscal quarter, ended December 31st, 2021 to last year's quarter, ended on December 31st, 2020. In some cases, we will refer back to December 31st, 2019. I would also like to highlight that we are introducing new non-GAAP financial metrics, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA per share. We decided to include these new metrics because they are key metrics used by management and our board to evaluate our operating performance, generate future operating plans, and make strategic decisions regarding the allocation of capital. Adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA per share are a more accurate picture of our underlying profitability, and it also highlights the increase in non-cash stock-based compensation, which increased significantly in the current year.

Similar to our prior quarters, we face a unique situation comparing two totally different environments between 2020 pandemic and 2021, mostly post-pandemic. In fact, we saw a stronger month of December in 2020 than our historical averages, which was primarily driven by increased e-commerce demand as a result of the second wave of the pandemic in December 2020, which caused many retail stores to close and many veterinarians to be unavailable. During the quarter ended December 2021, we also executed on a number of new changes to our marketing partnerships, agencies, and processes that were more important investments to help transform the company into a growth business. During this transition phase, or as Matt likes to call it, our test and learn phase, we were less efficient in the deployment of our variable marketing investment.

During the quarter, we ended up spending approximately 34% more in advertising year-over-year, where we spent $4.3 million in the quarter ended December 31st, 2021, compared to $3.2 million for the same period the prior year. Approximately 50% of this increase was due to rate increases across our marketing channels, and the remaining portion was due to an increase in the number of advertising impressions we delivered across a variety of advertising platforms. As we move into our first full quarter, the quarter ending March 31st, 2022, with our new marketing partnerships, agencies, and processes, we expect to be much more efficient with our variable marketing spend with improved results.

For the third fiscal quarter ended on December 31st, 2021, sales were $60.7 million, compared to sales of $65.9 million for the same period the prior year, a decrease of 7.9%. Sales actually increased by 1.3% versus the quarter ended December 31st, 2019, prior to the pandemic. The decrease in year-over-year sales was due to decreases both in new order and reorder sales. Our sales were negatively impacted by a competitive market, an inefficient variable marketing spend in the quarter, and a crowded advertising space with substantially higher costs compared to the same quarter last year. In addition, during the past nine months, there was an increase in veterinarian visits by pet owners who were unable to visit their veterinarian during the pandemic.

We believe the increase in veterinarian visits was primarily due to pet owners needing to visit their veterinarians for their pet's annual exam and to renew their prescriptions. Since some pet owners purchase medications directly from their vets during their visit, the company believes this negatively impacted sales, and especially reorder sales during the quarter and nine months ended December 31st, 2021. We were disappointed with our sales results during the quarter compared to the prior year results. However, sales were trending more positively in the months of November and December 2021 when you compare them to the pre-pandemic months of November and December 2019. Reorder sales decreased by 6.5% to $56.3 million for the December 2021 quarter, compared to reorder sales of $60.2 million for the same quarter the prior year.

While for the quarter ended December 31st, 2019, our reorder sales were $53.8 million. Encouragingly, reorder sales in the most recent quarter, while down versus a year ago, were up approximately 5% compared to 2019 pre-pandemic. Autoship revenue continues to grow, and currently approximately 25% of our revenue was generated from our Autoship & Save subscription program, with some of our more popular brands having exceeded 30%. Growing our subscription revenue is one of our main priorities in 2022. We would expect to see stronger reorder sales in 2022 as our Autoship revenue continues to grow. A positive trend to highlight for the quarter was the continued increase in our average order size.

Our average order was approximately $89 for the quarter, compared to $88 for the same quarter last year, and $85 for the quarter ended December 31st, 2019. For the nine months ended December 31st, 2021, our AOV was $92 compared to $88 for the same period the prior year. New order sales is obviously one area that needs improvement, and we're actively deploying new thinking and initiatives around re-engineering new customer growth. New order sales decreased by 22% to $4.4 million for the quarter, compared to $5.7 million for the same quarter the prior year. We acquired approximately 53,000 new customers in our third fiscal quarter ended December 31st, 2021, compared to 73,000 for the same period the prior year.

However, we anticipate that our spend will be more efficient as advertising prices stabilize and as the pandemic further subsides. More importantly, we expect improved marketing effectiveness in our media spending as we continue to deploy our new marketing initiatives. For the third fiscal quarter, net income was $4.3 million or $0.21 diluted per share, compared to $7.6 million or $0.38 diluted per share for the same quarter last year. A decrease to net income of 44%. Adjusted EBITDA for the third fiscal quarter was $7.6 million or $0.37 diluted per share, compared to $11 million or $0.55 diluted per share for the same quarter last year. A decrease to adjusted EBITDA of 31%. Adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA per share adds back certain non-cash expenditures.

These non-cash expenditures are stock compensation, interest, income and expense, income taxes, depreciation, and amortization. Again, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA per share are non-GAAP key measures used by management and our board to evaluate our operating performance, generate future operating plans, and make strategic decisions regarding the allocation of capital. We will continue to disclose this financial measure in our future filings. For the third fiscal quarter, our gross profit as a percentage of sales was 29.2% compared to 29.8% for the same period a year ago. The percentage decrease for the quarter can be attributed to some of the major manufacturers shifting their funding from discounting product costs to cooperative marketing rebates. There may be an opportunity to improve gross margins in 2022 if the shift to prescription medications continue, and we can grow future sales with minimal price promotions.

We had $108.9 million in cash and cash equivalents, and $27.6 million in inventory with no debt as of December 31st, 2021. The board of directors also declared a quarterly dividend of $0.30 per share on the company's common stock. The dividend will be payable on February 18th, 2022 to shareholders of record at the close of business on February 7th, 2022. The company continues to be committed to returning capital to our stockholders. However, the declaration and payment of future dividends is discretionary and will be subject to a determination by the board of directors each quarter following its review of the company's financial performance. Now, I'd like to hand the presentation back over to Matt. Matt?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Thanks, Bruce. My commitment is to be clear and transparent with all of our stakeholders as we start to unpack the plan for growth and our strategic plan. Let me jump in. It has been almost four months since I started the company and rapidly dived into looking at the key elements of the business that includes people, process, and strategy. During major transformation periods in a business, it is common and even expected to have some uneven execution, and we have been no exception. Equally, we've made some huge inroads into our strategic journey. Here's the status of our 90-day transformation blitz. Let us start with our people. PetMeds has historically had a thinly staffed executive management team. I have recently brought in three new executive team members that I believe are perfectly suited to help execute our business transformation.

You may have seen that we have announced these three new executive team members earlier this month. In case you missed it, I am pleased to tell you about the following additions to our team, who I'm confident will be game-changers as part of this new chapter of PetMeds. Our new Chief Information and Technology Officer is Mark Moseley. He joins us from Rosetta Stone, where he spent 17 years driving every aspect of their technology and operations. His unique experience includes IT, scaled product development, infrastructure, and operations. Our new Chief Marketing Officer is Dan Pingree. He joins us with a diverse set of digital retailing experiences, including seven years as the Chief Marketing Officer at Moosejaw Mountaineering, and this experience includes being part of the team that successfully sold the business to Walmart. In addition, he has public company direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical experience as an executive at drugstore.com.

Our new Vice President of People is Jacqueline Smith. She joins us from her previous role at Anju Software as the Vice President of HR, where she led global HR operations. She has over 20 years of extensive experience in change management and business transformations and has already been critical to revamp our human resource tools and best practices. We are very excited to have all three of these talented individuals now contributing their valuable skills to PetMeds. Now let's shift to process. PetMeds has a very agile culture, which I discovered in my very first days at the company and recognized as a real benefit when performing a business transformation. I mentioned on our last earnings call several areas that we were looking at as organic upsides. The first area of focus has been our marketing spend.

As you might have seen, our variable marketing for the quarter ended December 31st, 2021, increased to $4.3 million from $3.2 million last year. Over the quarter, we unbundled our legacy marketing relationships and transitioned to new agency partners and marketing operation tools. This work happened towards the back half of the quarter. This transition in November has given us additional time to test and learn as we spend and analyze the effectiveness of our marketing across the many channels that are available to us and ahead of the important flea and tick season starting in March. While we lean into this transition, we are assuming some level of marketing inefficiency while we refine our messaging and spend. I would expect the following as we enter into next quarter.

Our marketing effectiveness will get better and our overall spend in variable marketing may increase in certain channels on a year-over-year basis as long as we see the appropriate return in performance. As part of our shift to a subscription-based e-commerce company, we plan on introducing new metrics that better reflect how we are managing the business. For instance, in future earnings calls, we plan to introduce LTV to CAC as a key operating ratio. LTV to CAC, which stands for lifetime value divided by the cost to acquire a customer, is a common e-commerce measure to track sales and marketing efficiency and customer profitability. We have loyal customers that stay with PetMeds for a long time.

In an environment where we are moving our customers to our AutoShip and Save subscription program, we feel LTV to CAC will provide investors with additional visibility to the ongoing value that we are creating with our loyal customers. The second area of focus is identifying new customer segments. Historically, PetMeds has used a similar marketing approach for over 10 years. We have just completed an extensive consulting project that included a large study, which featured a representative sample of all U.S. pet parents as well as our own customers. Based on that comprehensive work, we have identified several new large and attractive customer segments to target, and we are testing and learning against these segments right now.

One interesting finding that speaks to what I discussed last time during our earnings call in terms of company assets is that 55% of the U.S. pet parents surveyed were already familiar with the PetMeds brand. That is a huge advantage for us as we efficiently and effectively restart our growth initiatives. Now let's shift to strategy. To be really clear, PetMeds is in a fantastic market position and focused on one of the highest gross margin categories in the pet market. PetMeds has the opportunity to cement its position by becoming a premium leader in the larger vertical in which it participates today. During our last earnings call, which was my first earnings call at the company, I mentioned our early thoughts on a new strategy moving the company into a broader health and wellness play.

We have continued to test and validate this strategy at a rapid pace. I'm a big believer in being a measured capital allocator. We see a lot of opportunity in expanding into new health and wellness adjacencies. This last quarter, we have been successfully testing a pet telehealth service as a partnership to a cohort of our customers, and the customer feedback has been extremely positive. This type of quick and agile testing will continue, and we look forward to forthcoming announcements in terms of partnerships in the future. We see a great future in adding more health and wellness services to our business and especially growing our e-commerce subscription base well beyond our current level of 25%.

I would like to end my prepared remarks by reiterating that the changes I've just described regarding people, process, and strategy have been executed at a rapid pace as necessary investments and are all pursuant to a well-thought-out strategic plan for our transformation. I hope this transparency will demonstrate our confidence in the future of the business, while also providing some insight into the associated investment costs as they appear in our operating results. This ends our prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

Operator

To ask a question, please press star one on your phone. Please note that you may not be able to ask a question if you are listening via the webcast. You must dial directly into the call in order to ask a question. Our first question is from Erin Wright with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Erin Wright
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks for taking my questions here. Can you elaborate on some of the changes you've made in the marketing strategy and the partnerships there, and can you give us an update on the traction on that front? You said that some of this didn't really pick up or wasn't initiated until later in the quarter, but how should we be thinking about the advertising spend then in the coming quarter and then over the course of fiscal 2023? Is this the sort of level we should anticipate kind of going forward?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Hey, Erin. Thanks for the questions. Great to hear from you. Several things, and then Bruce, why don't you jump in at the end. One is what I mentioned on the call today is that we really changed out a legacy set of partnerships and went into several others for a couple reasons. One is you know, really the way we've been targeting customers has been pretty much the same way we've been targeting customers for the last 10 years. We've identified some new customer segments to go after because we've really been going after a small cohort of customers for a long time.

As part of that unraveling, or I call it the unbundling of these relationships, which was kind of in the middle to late of the quarter, we are testing a lot of net new channels as well as, you know, some new spend levels. I think as you heard from the call today, you can expect ROAS, which is a metric we'll de-emphasize, but LTV to CAC should be at much healthier levels. The variable marketing spend to revenue could go up, but we'd associate that with more efficiency going forward. The reason why we hit the gas so hard, to be blunt, is flea and tick season starts in March. I wanna make sure that we are ready to go with rock solid go-to-market plans before March.

I'm really confident that we've got the right people and processes around spend. Bruce, is there anything you wanna add to that?

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

You know, as far as the increase in marketing, we talked in the call earlier. You know, 50% was due to rate increases across our marketing channels. You know, the remaining portion was due to increase in the number of advertising impressions. We definitely made an effort to grow new customers, but obviously we're a bit more inefficient than we would expect it to be. I think we definitely have some better insights from the quarter, and I think that's gonna help us in the current quarter, in the March quarter as we move forward.

Erin Wright
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. Thanks. Then you mentioned AutoShip penetration, I believe, at 25%. Where can that go over time, realistically, just given the mix of the products that you have, what percentage of revenue would be tied to more chronic treatments as opposed to acute and how far can that ultimately go? Thanks.

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Yeah. No, we haven't really guided to a kind of Pareto percentage that would be ideal for the business. I can tell you what our supplier partners tell us is that you know over 50% would be on benchmark or above. That's because the good news is not only chronic but also even non-chronic medications in this marketplace are highly consumable. That's not our official number but that's what we're hearing from our supply partners 50% or above. I'd love to see the Autoship numbers grow more aggressively, which we're working on this quarter.

Erin Wright
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. Thank you so much.

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

You're welcome.

Operator

Our next question is from Anthony Lebiedzinski from Sidoti & Company. Please proceed with your question.

Anthony Lebiedzinski
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Yes, good afternoon, and thank you for taking the question. I guess, you know, first question, on the AOV increase, you know, what are the main reasons, for that, and, how do you see that trending, as we, you know, in the future quarters here?

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

Hey, Anthony.

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Do you wanna take that?

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

Yeah.

How are you doing? AOV, I mean, I think it's a function of, we talked about previously where we're seeing a movement more so to Rx. Whereas during the pandemic, we actually saw a large uptake in OTC, which was a little bit unusual with our trends that we were seeing previously or should I say pre-pandemic. We're going back to a more normalized distribution between Rx and OTC. That obviously helps. As you know, we do buy direct from the major manufacturers as well, and we do have MAP pricing that we need to adhere to. When there are the annual increases that our manufacturers have on the price of products, the MAP pricing will also increase. It gives us an opportunity to pass on those additional increases to the customers.

Anthony Lebiedzinski
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Got you. Okay. In terms of the, you know, G&A expenses, those were higher than we anticipated. Can you just quickly go over, like, what drove that increase from last year, and then as far as the expected G&A quarterly G&A run rate, what should we anticipate going forward?

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

Right. I would say that, from a G&A perspective, the majority of that is, stock compensation, and, that's one reason why we introduced the new metric, adjusted EBITDA, to account for that. Stock compensation increased significantly, during the quarter, and we expect that number to increase year-over-year moving forward. That's one of the reasons behind it. As far as the other items, I don't. There's really nothing else that was really, a specific driver of the increase in G&A other than stock compensation. Obviously, Matt mentioned we did increase, our headcount and our executive management team. Both, you know, stock compensation were G&A.

Anthony Lebiedzinski
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Got it. Okay. You know, longer term question. As you work to transition the business to be more of a subscription-based business and you look to add more telehealth, how should we think about, you know, long-term operating margin profile of the company?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Yeah, it's a good question. I have kind of a frank answer to that, Anthony, and then I'll let Bruce answer it as well. The reason why the shift from LTV to CAC versus ROAS, and it's a little bit nuanced for some folks who are not used to that metric, is the fact that the company used to think about returning capital in terms of variable marketing within the quarter, and that's somewhat not realistic with kind of modern day marketing practices. There's some things that you'd be doing, like connected TV or linear TV, that may not pay off in three months, but may pay off over time. It's important to make sure that you're not doing bottom of the funnel marketing only, because that's not really gonna expand into customers.

That's some of the margin profile shift in terms of the variable marketing between LTV and CAC, and that's why we've reinforced that. From a LTV basis, Bruce, I think we could say that we expect LTV as we introduce that metric to go up over time because we haven't done a great job as a business attaching net new products. Certainly at 25% Autoship, I would anticipate LTV to go up over time because we have, you know, recurring on file customers. Bruce, is there anything you'd like to add?

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

No, I would agree with that 100%. I mean, there's definitely an opportunity there. You know, one item is more related to gross margins, but you know, our vendors recently shifting this year to co-op marketing, it negatively impacted margins, but we're gonna go on year-over-year anniversary in those changes. Hopefully over time, there may be an opportunity for gross margin expansion moving forward. That also is dependent on how much additional discounting we may need to attract new customers.

Anthony Lebiedzinski
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Got you. Okay. You know, lastly, with your strong cash position, what are your thoughts about buying back your shares?

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

As far as the buyback, sorry, Matt, let me, as you do have about, you know, $20 million currently authorized, and I don't think we've been active in the share buyback since 2019. You know, that's something that we, you know, discuss with the board periodically. You know, as of to date, they have been concentrating more so on the dividend to return equity back to shareholders, more so than the share buyback. We have been active in the past, and there may be opportunities going forward, and we'll just see how that shapes up.

Anthony Lebiedzinski
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Best of luck.

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Thanks for having me.

Operator

Our next question is from Corey Grady with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Corey Grady
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about reorder sales. How did the results for the quarter compare to your expectations coming in? Can you expand on what you're seeing in terms of visit trends and overall performance from the vet channel?

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

Matt, you want me to grab that?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Yeah, go ahead. Sure.

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

I'll take the first part. As far as, you know, reorder sales for the quarter, down about 7%, for the nine months, down about 9%. Obviously, off, you know, we're off from year-over-year or year-over-year perspective. If you look at reorder sales from pre-pandemic levels, so say December 31st, 2019, we're actually up 5%. I think we're moving in the right direction as far as reorder sales. You know, the early success that we've seen in our AutoShip and Save subscription program is, you know, it's gonna be a huge determining factor moving forward with reorder sales. As we grow that percentage, that will also should move reorder numbers. That's one part.

Matt, do you wanna touch base on the second part of that question?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Yeah. I just wanted to add one thing that, Bruce, you mentioned in the prepared remarks, is December was an odd month, where typically you never have a strong December in the business, and we had one. There's these weird base effects that still pop up when there's, you know, COVID restrictions. That was just a weird year-over-year comparison for us because we were feeling pretty good, like in November, for instance, year-over-year. December was a little bit of an anomaly. Bruce, don't you think that's accurate?

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

No, that is. That's very true.

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Yeah. We're feeling pretty good overall on just the reorder base. It's been a bedrock to the business. It's been extremely loyal base. We provide exceptional service. That's one area that we're not as worried about, and we're clearly focused on it, and we're gonna enhance the benefits to those Autoship subscribers as well. I think that's just gonna get stronger, what Bruce mentioned. It's the new customer space that obviously we're like a laser being very focused on. Did that answer your question, though?

Corey Grady
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Yeah, it did. Thank you.

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Okay.

Corey Grady
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

For my other question, I wanted to ask about performance within OTC and Rx meds. I mean, maybe within OTC, can you talk about what subcategories are outperforming and which are underperforming, and then maybe the same on the Rx side?

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

Matt, you want me to take this?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Sure. Yeah, just maybe in general. I think one way to be coy about it, Bruce, real quick is I think the, you know, the one thing about our business that's surprising, diving into it is that we don't attach a lot of additional products. That's one area that obviously we have a high concentration in Rx. It won't surprise you because you can go to our site and see exactly what are our top sellers. I think that's a big area of opportunity to have a bigger basket over time. Bruce, what were you gonna say? Sorry.

Bruce Rosenbloom
CFO, PetMeds

Right. I mean, as far as the categories, you know, it's pretty much the same tried and true flea, tick, heartworm preventatives. It's really concentrated around the maintenance medications. We really don't give a breakdown per category, but, you know, in the past, you know, we've always mentioned flea, tick, and heartworm, you know, make up, you know, an overwhelming majority of our business. Then that held true today. There's definitely more opportunity moving forward with new SKUs that are coming to market and also the opportunity to add on with additional items. That will continue. I think the breakdown by channel is not something that we're willing to share with the public today.

Corey Grady
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Got it. Thank you.

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Thank you.

Operator

As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your phone. Our next question is from Ben Rose with Battle Road Research. Please proceed with your question.

Ben Rose
President, Battle Road Research

Yes, good afternoon, Matt and Bruce. A couple of questions with regard to the pet telehealth service that you've been hinting at, Matt. Is there anything you can you know reveal in terms of you know what sort of benefits you might be taking a look at, what the timing might be for actually launching such a service so we can sort of prepare ourselves for that kinda timeframe?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

I had a feeling that was gonna whet your appetite, you in particular, 'cause I know you've asked me about this before. Not yet. I mean, the reason why I'm bringing it up is I don't wanna surprise investors, and analysts like yourself. I can tell you this, that our customers absolutely love it. There's a unique take that we'll have on this type of service that no one else has really thought through. When we launch it's gonna be really thoughtful. The reason why I'm not preannouncing in an earnings call, but I'm talking about the pilot is I think there are a lot of investors and stakeholders are expecting deployment of capital on partnerships and M&A, and I've certainly hinted at that, and we're pretty active in thinking through all that.

The pet telehealth service in particular is pretty unique to PetMeds because we are already seen by our customers as experts. When we deployed this and rolled it out, the feedback's been incredible. Stay tuned. I hope to have something for us then to discuss by our next earnings call.

Ben Rose
President, Battle Road Research

Okay, great. You know, with regard to the advertising mix, Matt, I know that you know, this is a big part of your expertise, and you've been taking a close look at what's been going on. Can you maybe just give a little bit of perspective on whether you're seeing any of the advertising rates, you know, for keywords and so forth on some of the major social media platforms, whether that's starting to stabilize or do you expect that, you know, to continue to be competitive going forward?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, I think the well, there's kind of a macro micro answer. The macro is the social media platforms, in particular anything owned by Meta. Certainly there's less supply. The Apple IDFA action has limited the amount of supply, and you just can't target as well as you used to. You know, lack of supply, same demand, prices go up. I think that's the macro piece, particularly on social in terms of CPMs increasing.

I think the micro piece would be the fact that, you know, we've had the same playbook for many years on returning a new customer acquisition, very optimized for returning capital very quickly, and that precludes you from doing discovery of top of the funnel and broader awareness in the category, which, you know, like you heard in the prepared remarks, really does add inefficiency when you start testing. Overall, I'm pretty confident over time we'll figure out that mix of top of the funnel marketing, because we're so widely known as a brand. Long-winded answer is the market in general for social impressions is pretty high. I don't think it's gonna get a lot higher.

I think the other channels actually have settled down, and then I think for us, it's figuring out the right segments and the right message to go after within those channels. I'm overall very confident that the hard work of unwinding everything has been done this quarter, and then we should see net improvements every time we talk.

Ben Rose
President, Battle Road Research

Okay, great. If I may, just one more question. You know, with respect to your relationships with the veterinarian community, it sounds like that's a real strength of the company. The question I have specifically is there any thought to making more of an outreach to sell directly to the vets selling prescription and OTC medications so that they can in turn turn around and sell that product to their customers since so many pet owners turn to their vets for you know purchasing this kind of prescription medication?

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Yeah. Great. Great question. Nothing to announce here, but the reason why I keep emphasizing VetStat is it is an asset that we have that I think is really, really underutilized. That would make a lot of sense 'cause if you think about the $10 billion medication market, 75% of that market is distributed through the vet. We're fans of vets. We talk to vets all the time. We have a vet pharmacy and we're interacting with vets every day. We're just not having business relationships with them. We're having very transactional relationships with them around authorization. Very clearly, to have 75% of a market not being activated by a retailer is something that is interesting to us. But nothing to announce now.

I would say overall, you know, the more you can do with vets to, you know, make their lives easier in terms of whether it's telemedicine, whether it's appointments, everything else that they have to deal with outside of treating pets, I think would be welcome. I do think it's an advantage. It's something we're definitely looking at as a future opportunity.

Ben Rose
President, Battle Road Research

Okay. Thanks very much.

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

You're welcome.

Operator

Our question and answer portion of the call has ended. I would now like to turn the call back to Matt Hulett, the company's CEO, for his concluding remarks.

Matt Hulett
CEO and President, PetMeds

Thank you, operator. As you just heard, the future of PetMeds is much broader than just a prescription e-commerce company. We're building our strategy out and working hard to transform to a broader e-commerce and subscription brand that reflects and leverages our status as the trusted pet health expert. I will continue to detail our progress and look forward to providing you with updates in the not-too-distant future. Thank you for listening in. Operator, this ends the conference call.

Operator

This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for participating.

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