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Status Update

Nov 10, 2025

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to Pfizer Pflash, A Spotlight on the PD-1 VEGF-Bispecific PF'4404 Clinical Development Strategy. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Francesca DeMartino, Chief Investor Relations Officer and Senior Vice President. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I'm Francesca DeMartino, Chief Investor Relations Officer. On behalf of the Pfizer team, thank you for joining us for the latest episode in our Pfizer Pflash series. Today's call will be recorded and available for replay on our IR website at pfizer.com. As a reminder, our Pfizer Pflash series is intended to serve as an educational deep dive into our pipeline, products, and people. Each call will spotlight a specific product, therapeutic area, or growth initiative and give you an opportunity to hear from and interact with our business leaders. Today's session will begin with a conversation followed by a live Q&A. As a reminder, this call is intended only for the investment community, including our sell-side analysts and institutional investors. If you are unable to join the entirety of the event, you can find the replay available on our IR website.

I want to note that on today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements. I encourage you to view slide two in our presentation and the disclosures in our SEC filings, all of which are available on our IR website at Pfizer.com. Forward-looking statements on the call are subject to substantial risks and uncertainties, speak only as of the call's original date, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any of the statements. With that, let's get started. Oncology is a key area of focus for Pfizer. In July of this year, we closed a licensing deal with 3SBio for global ex-China rights to the bispecific antibody SSGJ-707, which we will now refer to as PF'4404, or just 4404. In our last Pfizer Pflash, we provided an introduction to 4404 and promised to share an update on our clinical development plans.

Today, we'll expand on that development strategy, which we believe has the potential to establish 4404 as a backbone therapy across multiple tumor types. Before we kick off the main discussion, I'd like to take a moment to introduce our speaker, Jeff Legos, Pfizer's Chief Oncology Officer. In addition, Johanna Bendell, Chief Development Officer for Oncology, and Arati Rao, 4404's franchise head, will participate in our Q&A. Jeff, Johanna, and Arati, welcome, and thank you so much for joining the conversation today. Jeff, let's get started. Can you remind us what 4404 is, how it works, and how it fits into Pfizer's broader oncology pipeline and portfolio?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Francesca. Yes, I'm very happy to. 4404 is a bispecific antibody with potential transformative mechanism of action that may enable it to be a foundational therapy across multiple cancers. As shown on the left-hand side of the slide, at the heart of 4404 is its ability to target both PD-1 and VEGF. PD-1 is a key receptor that typically acts to prevent immune cells from attacking cancerous cells. VEGF, the other target of 4404, plays an important role in tumor blood vessel formation. We've seen that PD-1 and PD-1 checkpoint inhibitors are among the most broadly impactful oncology medicines developed to date. Furthermore, emerging external phase III data have shown that the combination of PD-1 and VEGF inhibition in a single molecule like 4404 has the potential to achieve superior efficacy versus PD-1 inhibition alone.

If these initial data achieved with PD-1 and VEGF mechanism of action can be proven out in global phase III studies and in additional treatment settings and tumor types alongside an acceptable safety profile, these results can truly be transformational for patients with cancer. Next slide, please. We believe that 4404 is a foundational asset and a strong, seamless fit with Pfizer's oncology strategy. First, many of the cancer types where PD-1 VEGF bispecific may have significant impact are aligned with our established disease areas of focus. These include thoracic, genitourinary, and gastrointestinal cancers. Second, 4404 is a multispecific antibody, one of our three core modalities where we have deep experience and industry-leading capabilities. And third, there's an opportunity to explore combinations with our industry-leading ADC portfolio, including the Vedotin class of ADCs, where a growing body of clinical data shows potential synergy with anti-PD-1 agents.

This strategic alignment is critical for our goal to develop 4404 into the leading PD-1 VEGF bispecific and establish it as a backbone therapy across multiple tumor types. We're laser-focused on developing 4404 with speed, with breadth, and depth. Speed is facilitated by our robust global development capabilities, with seven new clinical trial initiations with 4404 expected in the near term as the first of many planned waves within our development strategy. Breadth leverages our presence in multiple key disease areas where PD-1 and VEGF bispecific may have significant impact and underpins our plans to develop 4404 in multiple tumor types. Depth is driven by our unique blend of capabilities, focus, and modalities to develop 4404 across multiple treatment settings, lines of therapy, and in novel combinations within a given disease.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Jeff. Let's double-click on capabilities and presence. Can you elaborate on how you see those contributing to Pfizer's development of 4404?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Certainly. If we can move to the next slide, please. Pfizer has many capabilities that leave us well-positioned to create value with 4404, which we view as a foundational asset. A key part of our potentially differentiated 4404 strategy is the speed at which we can move in clinical development. For oncology, speed is not just the pace of work. It's about working smarter, leveraging our global scale, and harnessing technology to enhance efficiency and innovation. We work smarter as an organization because of our team. Across our clinical and medical organizations, we have more than 50 medical oncologists who bring unparalleled experience and are empowered to make decisions and move quickly. These leaders, together with our understanding of regulatory and operations teams, make Pfizer an industry leader in innovative clinical design and regulatory strategies that bring potential new therapies to patients with cancer.

Our global scale in clinical operations and supply provides us with the agility in global clinical development. In addition to our global clinical footprint, we have 10 manufacturing and clinical trial supply sites on three continents, including four in the United States. These networks and colleagues allow us to execute our clinical development plans nimbly and with the highest quality. Highlighting our unprecedented speed, here are a few of the many achievements which we have made in the last three-plus months since closing the licensing deal. First, we have submitted five new INDs with the FDA. We've worked diligently to select over 500 global clinical trial sites for our 4404 studies in more than 25 countries. And finally, we've accelerated timelines for a tech transfer and have successfully manufactured 4404 drug product here in the United States.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Jeff. Let's bring some of those concepts together and talk about the near-term plans for 4404's clinical development.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Absolutely. Let's move to slide seven, please. Here we show our first wave of planned near-term clinical trials, starting with our phase III pivotal studies. These will be the first Pfizer-sponsored studies for 4404. Already on clinicaltrials.gov, these include a study in frontline non-small cell lung cancer, including both squamous and non-squamous histologies, and one in frontline metastatic colorectal cancer. Beyond these pivotal trials, we plan to initiate five additional studies with near-term starts. In lung cancer, these include a phase I and phase II study to evaluate 4404 in combination, including with some of our ADCs, as well as a phase II and phase III study in frontline extensive small cell lung cancer. In GI, we plan to initiate a phase I and phase II study in hepatocellular carcinoma.

And in GU, we have two planned phase I and phase II studies: one evaluating 4404 in locally advanced or metastatic urothelial carcinoma and a second one in locally advanced or metastatic renal cell carcinoma. Importantly, these seven anticipated near-term study starts are only the beginning of our plans for 4404. We're actively working through a second wave of potential development opportunities that could yield trial starts for another 10 additional indications and 10 or more novel combinations before the end of 2026, which is a good segue to how we're thinking about our depth of development across settings, across lines of therapies, including novel combinations. Next slide, please. We're aiming to make 4404 a key part of our future oncology arsenal by displacing the current standard of care PD-1 and PD-L1 and VEGF agents with a new PD-1 VEGF bispecific backbone therapy across multiple tumor types.

In parallel, we plan to look across lines of systemic therapy to potentially establish a new generation of chemotherapy-sparing regimens by combinations of 4404 with potentially synergistic antibody drug conjugates. And we plan to look at opportunities to expand 4404's reach to impact patients even earlier in their treatment journeys, such as in the neoadjuvant and adjuvant settings.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

So, Jeff, on the planned phase III program design, how is Pfizer engaged with health authorities, and how have those discussions shaped the path forward?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

It's an excellent question. Let's move to slide 10, please. We've been very thoughtful in our engagement with health authorities and have aligned on our global phase III studies in non-small cell lung cancer and metastatic colorectal cancer. The goal of these discussions was to establish a framework through which we can position the 4404 development franchise to move with both maximum rigor and speed. Included in this framework are four core principles that we believe are consistent with the evolving health authority expectations and that may serve as a template for future 4404 pivotal trials. Firstly, we'll make overall survival a primary endpoint, either alone or a dual primary with progression-free survival. Secondly, we'll include at least 20% enrollment of U.S. participants and appropriately diversify outside of that to achieve representation of our global patient population.

Third, our phase III programs will be enabled via robust dose optimization studies in line with the U.S. FDA's Project Optimus, and lastly, we'll look to engage the FDA and global health authorities for pre-phase III advice to inform optimal trial design and execution. While these may seem straightforward, their effective and efficient implementation has the potential to meaningfully differentiate the speed and success of our clinical trials both in the near term and beyond.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Great. Let's now transition to the 4404 clinical data, starting with lung cancer. Lung cancer remains a significant unmet medical need, but not all lung cancer is the same. Can you discuss the opportunity for new therapies and the broader market segmentation?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Sure. If we can move to slide 12, please. Let me start with some of the epidemiology. Lung cancer continues to pose a significant global health burden, with over 2.7 million new diagnoses expected globally for 2025. In the United States alone, this includes approximately 315,000 incident and newly recurrent cases. Despite a decade of declining death rates, the five-year survival across stages is 32% for non-small cell lung cancer and only 9% for small cell lung cancer. This underscores the urgent need for continued innovation in early detection and treatment strategies across lung cancer, a large and growing market that's expected to be approximately $70 billion by 2030. On slide 13, this shows the segmentation of lung cancer, highlighting that this tumor type is not a single disease, but rather a collection of multiple molecularly distinct diseases.

This segmentation helps to stratify patients and is the foundation of precision therapy selection. The two primary histologic subtypes are non-small cell lung cancer, which makes up approximately 85% of the cases, and small cell lung cancer, accounting for the remaining 15%. Non-small cell lung cancer is further divided into distinct subtypes: squamous and non-squamous histology, with the non-squamous population being roughly threefold larger than squamous. Historically, the squamous cell histology has been more difficult to effectively treat. Additionally, PD-1 expression has become a critical biomarker for guiding immunotherapy decisions in non-small cell lung cancer. This is typically determined through what is called Tumor Proportion Score, or TPS, which measures the fraction of cancer cells in a tumor that express PD-1. Historically, higher TPS scores have been shown to predict better outcomes with immune checkpoint inhibitors.

TPS scores greater than 1% are categorized as PD-1 positive, accounting for approximately two-thirds of cases, and a TPS score of less than 1% are categorized as PD-1 negative, accounting for the remaining one-third. Within the non-squamous, non-small cell lung cancer, there's another tool to help define distinct molecular subtypes. This looks at the genetic drivers of cancer, bucketed into the actionable genomic alterations, including EGFR, ALK, BRAF V600, and KRAS. The presence of these mutations often prioritizes targeted small molecule therapies over immunotherapy as the first line of treatment.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

That's really helpful context, Jeff. Thank you. So data for 4404 plus chemotherapy in non-small cell lung cancer were recently presented at the Society for Immunotherapy of Cancer meeting, or SITC. Can you share the highlights of that presentation?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Sure. If we can move to slide 14, please. Last week's presentation at SITC was from an open-label randomized phase II trial of 4404 in combination with chemotherapy as the first-line treatment in advanced non-small cell lung cancer. This study is being conducted in China by 3SBio and was designed to evaluate the safety, tolerability, and anti-tumor activity of 4404 in combination with chemotherapy. This was a head-to-head trial with the standard of care tislelizumab and anti-PD-1 and leading approved agents in China in combination with chemotherapy. Patients of both histologies were enrolled irrespective of PD-1 TPS score. Part one was a chemotherapy combination with a dose escalation of 4404 in patients with non-squamous tumors versus tislelizumab plus chemo combination one. Part two was of similar design for patients with squamous disease and included both a dose escalation cohort A and a dose expansion cohort B.

The 10 mg per kilogram dose was selected for cohort B. The efficacy data from non-squamous non-small cell lung cancer patients are shown on slide 15 and are suggestive of deep and durable responses with a confirmed objective response rate that was numerically higher for 4404 in combination with chemotherapy across both dose levels. As shown in the left panel, the confirmed objective response rate for 4404 plus chemotherapy was 50% at the 5 mg per kilogram dose and approaching 60% for the 10 mg per kilogram dose, compared to 40% for the tislelizumab combination therapy. The depth and durability of response for patients receiving 4404 at the 10 mg per kilogram dose is shown on the spider plot on the right. Each line represents an individual patient and shows tumor shrinkage from baseline, where the lines going down are good.

In addition, you could see that many of the lines continue to further deepen and stay there, reflecting a deepening of this response over time and providing an early glimpse of the response durability. We're particularly encouraged by the efficacy for the 10 mg per kilogram dose group, which has informed the planned phase III pivotal start and will also be the focus of today's discussion around these phase II results. On slide 16 are the efficacy data in the squamous histology group. Let's start with cohort A in the top panel. The results for patients receiving 4404 at the 10 mg per kilogram dose are suggestive of durable responses independent of PD-1 expression. The depth of response is shown in the waterfall plot in the left panel. These plots represent tumor shrinkage from baseline with longer downward bars reflecting a larger decrease in tumor size.

These data correspond to a confirmed overall response rate of 75%. The spider plot on the right shows tumor shrinkage over time. Again, we see most of the lines going down and tending to stay down over the period of evaluation. This provides an early glimpse at the durability of responses, even in patients having the harder-to-treat squamous cell histology. And if we look at the panel on the bottom of the slide, these are data from the dose expansion cohort B, which started subsequent to cohort A and therefore has considerably shorter duration of follow-up at the time of the data cutoff. Nonetheless, even with very limited duration of follow-up, we continue to see encouraging early response rates in patients receiving 4404. Next slide, please.

The observed safety profile shown here on slide 17 was generally consistent with the known safety profiles of chemotherapy combined with PD-1 and angiogenesis inhibitors. The most common treatment-related adverse events are listed on the left-hand side of the slide in order of decreasing frequency in patients receiving 4404. The aggregate frequencies are shown on the right. In purple for 4404 plus chemo groups and in gray for tislelizumab plus chemo groups. The hematologic adverse events were the most common type for both arms, consistent with the chemotherapy regimen. In total, grade 3 and higher treatment-related adverse events were observed in 39% of patients receiving 4404 at the 10 mg per kilogram dose level versus approximately 33% in patients receiving the tislelizumab combination therapy. These grade 5 treatment-related adverse events occurred in patients receiving 4404 at the 10 mg per dose level and in one patient receiving the tislelizumab combination.

Importantly, treatment-related adverse events leading to drug discontinuation were low. Overall, these phase II data are supportive of the promising efficacy and manageable safety profile for 4404 in combination with chemotherapy for patients with advanced non-small cell lung cancer, independent of tumor histology and independent of PD-1 expression. These results build upon the encouraging monotherapy for 4404 presented at ASCO earlier this year and strengthen our confidence in the selected dose for the planned phase III pivotal trial.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Based on the data you just recapped, what's next for 4404 in lung cancer?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Supported by this very encouraging phase II data, we've worked with health authorities to design a single global phase III study of 4404 plus chemotherapy in both squamous and non-squamous cell lung cancer. The design of this trial is shown here on slide 18. It will enroll patients with locally advanced or metastatic disease who have no known actionable genomic alterations and who have not received prior systemic therapy for advanced or metastatic disease. Both PD-1 positive and PD-1 negative patients will be eligible. Patients will be divided into two cohorts based on histology and randomized to receive chemotherapy in combination with either 4404 or pembrolizumab. After the initial number of treatment cycles, patients will continue with maintenance therapy. The study is designed to enroll about 700 participants in the squamous cell histology cohort and about 800 participants in the non-squamous cohort.

The dual primary endpoints of the study are progression-free survival and overall survival. If successful, we believe this study could support potential approvals in the first-line setting for both squamous and non-squamous histology non-small cell lung cancer. As I previewed earlier, our plans with 4404 also extend in the extensive stage small cell lung cancer. If we flip now to slide 19, we'll see the design of our planned phase II/III trial in this indication. This study will begin with a phase II open-label cohort evaluating 4404 in combination with chemotherapy. If the data from the phase II part of the study are supportive, we'll then rapidly and seamlessly move into a phase III double-blind randomized portion. Here, we will evaluate the combination of chemotherapy with either 4404 at the phase III dose or the anti-PD-1 monoclonal antibody, atezolizumab. The primary endpoint of this trial will be overall survival.

If successful, we believe this study could support potential approval for 4404 in first-line extensive stage small cell lung cancer and together with our non-small cell lung cancer study, support our broader ambition to displace traditional checkpoint inhibitors in the lung cancer treatment paradigm.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Jeff. To conclude, could you provide an overview of how your plans for 4404 fit within the broader lung cancer portfolio?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Absolutely. If we could just move to slide 20, please. So here we could see a summary of our approved medicines on our late-stage lung cancer agents currently in development. Starting at the top, we have our approved targeted small molecule medicines. These include our Braftovi and Mektovi combination, which is approved to treat BRAF V600E metastatic non-small cell lung cancer, and Lorbrena, which is approved for ALK-positive metastatic non-small cell lung cancer. Beyond our targeted small molecules, we are also developing 4404 as well as the antibody drug conjugates SV and PDL1V. Shown in the darker blue are the ongoing phase III trials for SV and PDL1V in non-small cell lung cancer. The second-line study of SV in non-squamous disease with any PD-1 status is anticipated to read out next year.

In addition, we've recently initiated both a front-line study of SV in patients with TPS high disease and a histology-agnostic second-line and later study with PDL1V. There are also future opportunities for SV in the first-line setting in patients with PD-1 low or PD-1 negative tumors. We've just detailed our phase III front-line studies for 4404 in both small cell and non-small cell lung cancer. However, we can also see the potential for 4404 in earlier settings of non-small cell lung cancer treatment. And of course, there's the phase I and phase II study that I mentioned earlier, where we plan to begin exploring 4404 in multiple combinations, including those with our antibody drug conjugates, where we have a growing body of data suggestive of potential synergy when combined with anti-PD-1 therapy.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Thank you for that great recap of our lung cancer strategy, Jeff. Shifting gears, could we now speak about the colorectal cancer for which Pfizer is also pursuing a near-term phase III start for 4404?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

If we could advance to slide 22, please. Like lung cancer, colorectal cancer represents a significant unmet need and a substantial opportunity for new therapies. It's one of the most commonly diagnosed cancers globally, with more than 1.5 million new diagnoses expected in 2025 alone. It's the second most frequent cause of cancer-related death in the United States, and despite recent advances, it continues to remain difficult to treat. This is particularly true in the metastatic setting, where the five-year survival in the United States is a dismal 16%. Through our development of 4404, we hope to improve outcomes for patients with colorectal cancer and expand our leadership in a large and growing marketplace that has a projected 2030 size of around $9 billion.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Great. Thank you. And then next, could you speak briefly about how metastatic colorectal cancer is classified and treated and the areas of the market where Pfizer is aiming to make an impact?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Sure. If we could just move to slide 23. Here you can see that treatment of metastatic colorectal cancer, or metastatic CRC for short, is guided by various tumor characteristics and genetic markers. When considering unresectable or metastatic CRC, first-line treatment typically involves systemic therapy with regimens that include chemotherapy, biologics, targeted therapies, and/or immune checkpoint inhibitors. Therapeutic regimens are driven by the molecular profile of the tumor being treated. One way in which metastatic CRCs are classified is by microsatellite instability or MSI high status. MSI high patients typically have deficient DNA mismatch repair systems and represent approximately 5% of metastatic CRC. These patients are often treated with immune checkpoint inhibitors, as MSI high status is a key biomarker to help predict response to these therapies. The remaining 95% of patients are classified as microsatellite stable and are typically treated with anti-EGFR or anti-VEGF therapy.

These patients will be the focus of our planned 4404 phase III studies in metastatic CRC, and as we will test, dual anti-VEGF and anti-PD-1 regimen, including an anti-VEGF monoclonal antibody. Metastatic CRC tumors are also classified by genetic mutations or amplifications. Focusing on where Pfizer medicines are having an impact, there are V600E mutations, which affect about 8%-10% of patients with metastatic CRC, and there are also HER2-positive metastatic CRC, which represents about 3%-5% of CRC patients. With 4404, we aim to improve patient outcomes by building a diverse franchise that can attack tumors from multiple angles.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Okay, great. Thanks for that overview, Jeff. Can you next speak a bit about the data that supports your plans for 4404 in metastatic colorectal cancer?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Sure. If we turn to slide 24, here we could see some of the data which were presented at the recent European Society of Medical Oncology meeting last month. These data come from a phase II trial in China conducted by 3SBio, evaluating 4404 in combination with chemotherapy in patients with treatment-naive metastatic CRC. Patients with an MSI high status were excluded from this study. The results are shown from a cohort of patients receiving 10 mg per kilogram of 4404 every other week in combination with a modified FOLFOX chemotherapy regimen, which is the regimen we plan to take forward into phase III. We observed encouraging anti-tumor activity in this study with a greater than 57% confirmed objective response rate and greater than 95% disease control rate achieved with our planned phase III regimen.

On the left, you can see the depth of the responses with longer downward bars reflecting larger decreases in tumor size, and in the spider plot on the right, you can see the data capturing durability with many responses ongoing at the time of the data cutoff. If we move to slide 25, here you could see data highlighting the manageable safety profile of 4404 plus chemotherapy in the phase II study. In the interest of time, I'll highlight that with our planned phase III regimen, we saw no grade III or higher immune-related adverse events and no treatment-related adverse events leading to 4404 discontinuation or death. Looking across all dose regimens in the study, the proportion of patients with grade III or higher immune-related adverse events and treatment-related AEs leading to 4404 discontinuation or death were very low at 2.3%, 1.1%, and 2.3% respectively.

Together with the encouraging anti-cancer activity observed in this study, these results support our plans to evaluate 4404 plus modified FOLFOX in the phase III trial.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Jeff. Could you please expand a bit on the design of the planned phase III study?

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Of course. If we could just advance to slide 26, please. Here we could see an overview of our planned study in first-line metastatic colorectal cancer. The study, which is currently posted on clinicaltrials.gov, is a global double-blind phase III trial evaluating 4404 against the anti-VEGF monoclonal antibody bevacizumab, both in combination with modified FOLFOX. Similar to the phase II study, this trial will exclude patients who are MSI high, focusing on the population of patients where PD-1/PD-L1 checkpoint inhibitors have historically shown limited benefit. The study is designed to enroll about 800 participants and has dual primary endpoints of progression-free and overall survival. If successful, we believe this study could support a potential approval in first-line metastatic CRC, as well as our broader ambition to displace traditional anti-VEGF therapy in the metastatic CRC treatment paradigm.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Jeff. This has been a very informative discussion. So to summarize our conversation today, I would say Pfizer Oncology is aggressively moving forward with an ambitious development plan to unlock value for our foundational asset, 4404, aiming to generate data that could, pending clinical and regulatory success, make it a backbone treatment across multiple cancer types. At a high level, several parts of today's conversation stand out. First, 4404 is a seamless fit with Pfizer's oncology strategy, leveraging our deep expertise in both the development of multi-specific antibodies and in relevant disease areas. And the global development plan builds on a truly global R&D presence. Second, a three-pronged strategy is in place to execute the development plan. Speed is exemplified by seven planned near-term clinical trial starts, including two phase III studies in the first of many planned waves.

Breadth is demonstrated by the multiple tumor types in these planned near-term trial starts. Depth encompasses multiple treatment settings, lines of therapy, and the evaluation of novel combinations with our leading ADC portfolio within a given disease area. Third, we continue to be rigorous in our approach to 4404's development, utilizing encouraging clinical results to make data-driven decisions and create an enabling framework for interactions with health authorities so that the 4404 program may progress with maximum rigor and speed. Finally, the tumor types encompassed by the 4404 development plan are not only grounded in Pfizer's current commercial presence, but also represent attractive opportunities in disease areas with a large unmet medical need. This is highlighted by the initial pivotal programs in lung and colorectal cancers, which are large and growing markets that may reach approximately $70 billion and $9 billion by 2030, respectively.

We'll now begin the Q&A session with Jeff, Johanna, and Arati. And as a reminder, our Pfizer Pflash series is designed as an educational deep dive into our pipeline programs. I'll therefore kindly ask participants to keep questions focused on 4404 and the data and development plans discussed today, and avoid questions that would require us to provide forward-looking financial projections. While we're happy to clarify any information we shared during the presentation, we will not be offering estimates beyond what has already been communicated. Thank you for your understanding. With that, we're ready to take the first question. Operator, if you could please assemble the queue, and Jeff, I'll turn it over to you to lead us through it.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Francesca.

Operator

At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing Star 2. Once again, that is Star 1 to ask a question. Our first question comes from Geoff Meacham with Citibank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys. This is Nishant calling for Jeff. Thanks for the question and this presentation. So my question is on the class overall. The PD-1 VEGF class is kind of becoming crowded in lung cancer. So beyond hitting the primary endpoints, are there any specific features on the final, like a label, like superior safety or efficacy in key subgroups, or even dosing convenience that you believe will be essential for achieving a dominant market share? Thank you.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Nishant, and maybe I'll start and then turn it over to Johanna, so as mentioned, the trials are designed for superiority with what we believe to be a very clinically meaningful improvement in both progression-free survival and/or overall survival or overall survival alone based on the exact design of the trial. I think with respect to how we intend to differentiate here, I think we showed a few examples of combinations with standard of care, and then ultimately, kind of the next wave of innovation, we'll move into novel combinations, so we believe through both very rapid and clinically meaningful improvements in our endpoints, we believe that will help us to differentiate as well as to novel combinations, but Johanna, I'll turn it over to you to share a little bit more with Nishant how you're thinking about how else to enhance the label and success.

Johanna Bendell
Chief Development Officer for Oncology, Pfizer

Thank you so much, Jeff, and thank you so much for the question. I think, first of all, when we think about how we ideally combine with our Pfizer portfolio and the next wave of innovation that Jeff was mentioning, we're really excited in particular about looking at combinations with our antibody drug conjugates. We're thinking about not only non-small cell lung cancer, but potentially other areas where Pfizer non-ADCs are sitting in terms of the standard of care. I think also in terms of subgroups that we would be thinking about, for certain our trials will be planned for subgroups that we are considering to be able to pre-plan these and bake them into the clinical trial design.

As you see the clinical trials coming forward, and if you want to understand a bit better the subgroups that we're looking at, you'll see those within not only the phase IIIs, but also within the exploratory trials that we're doing so you can see different populations that we're looking for. We're always excited to try to think about bringing treatment earlier in the cancer setting to have even more efficacy for our patients. When we think about safety, we've seen a differential where two antibodies, if we give a PD-1 inhibitor and a VEGF inhibitor separately, we may have issues in terms of being able to maximize the efficacy for patients based on safety differentials that we see by giving two separate antibodies.

One thing that we're very excited about with the combination of the bi-specific is that we're excited to localize the treatment effect more to the tumors to potentially decrease the safety issues that we could potentially see by treating with both a PD-1 and a VEGF antibody alone. We're also very interested in tying into our trials the patient-reported outcomes to make sure that we're really seeing benefit for our patients not only in terms of overall efficacy that we see within the clinical trials, but also in how they're feeling.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Johanna. Very clear. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from Steve Scala with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Steve Scala
Pharmaceutical Analyst, TD Cowen

Oh, thank you. I have a few questions. Do you think phase III results in lung cancer will set the upper bound for efficacy for PD-1 VEGF, the whole class, across tumors? And what overall survival hazard ratio do you need to see in lung cancer to be convinced that this class has transformative potential across tumors? So that's the first question. Second question is, is it possible that big centers will have competitive PD-1 VEGF trials ongoing? Some theorize the reason Keytruda had such a successful clinical trial program is that they got the best patients at each center. If you believe that is true, then how can Pfizer enjoy that same advantage? Thank you.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Thanks for the question, Steve, and I try to capture them, and if we miss any, just remind me, so I think your first question with respect to will the phase III results in lung cancer set the overall benchmark, so across multiple cancers? I think we recognize that lung cancer has been one of the more immunogenic cancers where patients have responded to anti-PD-1, so we believe this is an important first place to study the medicine, and it's the area where we have the largest proportion of phase II data, but we also recognize that every cancer is different and every combination is different, which is why we have a very broad and deep development plan, because we don't expect to just extrapolate the results from one cancer to another.

And as you're well aware, colorectal cancer and non-small cell lung cancer are very different with respect to how patients respond to anti-PD-1 or PD-1 therapies. In terms of the clinically meaningful benchmarks, I would just reiterate the point that I made previously, and that here we are designing our studies based on the sample sizes that were shown to exhibit both a clinically meaningful and statistically significant benefit for patients with respect to our time-to-event endpoint. I think your last question was around sort of clinical trial sites and potentially getting the best patients. I think the best patients aren't necessarily representative of real-world patients.

But that being said, I think this is where the breadth and the depth of our expertise across a wide range of cancers, including non-small cell lung cancer and colorectal cancer, will already help us in terms of having this established clinical trial footprint and deep relationships with these investigators. And we have already identified more than 500 clinical centers who we have worked with across all of our previous studies who have confirmed their willingness to participate in these upcoming phase III clinical trials. So we believe that we will be able to sort of reach and target patients that are truly representative of those which we are seeking an indication in, including both the United States, Europe, and Asia. Thank you for the question. Next slide.

Operator

We'll go next to Evan Seigerman with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Evan Seigerman
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Hi, guys. Thank you so much for taking the question, and I will not ask a mysterious question. That's a joke, by the way.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Evan.

Evan Seigerman
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

It's been a week. It's been a week. But as I think about kind of the competitive landscape, kind of following up on Steve's question, we saw some data for the competitive Summit asset at ESMO. Maybe put into context that data and how you think your asset will be able to compete and really show that this is the PD-1 VEGF bi-specific. And secondarily, when you were evaluating potential assets to in-license, what were some of the unique features of this antibody that drove you to ink the deal? Thank you so much.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Thanks for the question, Evan, and maybe I'll ask the Arati Rao, who's our 4404 franchise lead for this molecule, to comment a bit on maybe some of the preclinical data and then what specifically excited her during diligence and then currently with respect to the clinical portfolio, where now I think more than 650 patients have already been treated with 4404, so Arati, over to you.

Arati Rao
4404 Franchise Head, Pfizer

Thank you, Jeff. Thanks, Evan, for the question. So in terms of the preclinical data, I will tell you that the unique tetravalent structure or a tetrabody that 707 or 4404 is what attracted me when I first began looking at this package. This tetravalent structure allows for each arm to simultaneously bind PD-1 and VEGF together. In the presence of VEGF, 707 forms multimers. And this multimerization or daisy chaining, as we call it, is what allows for increased affinity for PD-1. And then that leads to increased binding of PD-1 by almost 10x. The fully functional VEGF arm on this molecule is really interesting. And it actually not only does it drive anti-angiogenesis, it also creates and inhibits this immunosuppressive environment that we see in the TME. All of these preclinical data really kind of attracted us towards it.

The VEGF inhibition was a little more differentiated from some of the other molecules that we had seen. That's all I could say. The second piece of this question that you had was, how are we differentiating from some of the data that we saw at ESMO this year? And I'm guessing you're referring to the HARMONi-6 study in squamous non-small cell lung cancer, where ivonescimab was combined with chemotherapy versus pembrolizumab plus chemotherapy. And what I'll tell you is that in our 98, we had 125 patients treated with squamous non-small cell lung cancer. 98 of those patients were treated at the 10 mg per kg Q3 week FDA-aligned dose now. And when we compare our small data set with the 260-some patients in the HARMONi-6 arm, you can see that the overall response rate is similar in terms of it is very similar.

Our follow-up needs to be longer because we are a little slower. I mean, they're further ahead in development. But when it comes to the toxicities, it seems like the VEGF-related toxicities, the all-grade hemorrhage, hemoptysis, et cetera, are very similar between the two arms. So as we kind of expand into larger data sets, we expect that these will bear out and we'll see really good efficacy and toxicity with our molecule.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Thanks, Arati. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from David Risinger with Leerink Partners. Please go ahead.

Jason Zhuang
Equity Research Associate, Leerink Partners

Thank you. This is Jason Zhuang for Dave. I have two questions, please. So first of all, following up on the differentiation of 4404, could you please provide a roadmap for potential validation of its superior efficacy and specifically key readouts to watch in coming years that establish the differentiation versus other bispecifics? And second, given prior licensing agreement with 3SBio, please remind us about the economics for Pfizer and 3S and how Pfizer will book financials on the income statement. Thank you.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Thanks for the question, Jason, and maybe I'll start by addressing the first one and then maybe ask Francesca to come back in on the economics for the 3SBio deal. So first, you talked about the roadmap here, and I just want to remind the audience that this deal didn't close until sort of late July, early August this year, and I am incredibly pleased and proud by which the speed that we were able to execute on a lot of the activities that we shared with you just over the past three months.

If we think about what has been accomplished by then, we were able to sort of transfer all of the data from our colleagues at 3SBio, prepare these seven regulatory documents, file the five INDs, and now are well equipped to have these seven near-term study starts, not to mention the tech transfer and the ability to sort of complete the first drug product manufacturing here in the United States. The first part of the roadmap is obviously the seven near-term study starts that we have highlighted today. In terms of data readouts, we will continue to follow the additional patients for both depth and durability from the ongoing phase II trials that 3SBio has already started.

The next part of our roadmap, as mentioned during the presentation, is up to 10 additional trials starting in 2026 and up to 10 additional novel combinations starting in 2026. So continuing to build upon the momentum that we've already started just over the previous three months. If we think about kind of the overall trial readouts, most of these studies are phase III studies with time-to-event endpoints of progression-free survival and overall survival. So I would just refer you to clinicaltrials.gov and look at the primary completion date as to when you could expect this data to become available. And maybe to your second question on the overall 3SBio economics and/or deal terms, maybe I can invite Francesca to speak about that.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

I can take it. Yeah, I can take it, Jeff. Okay, so thanks for the question. So this is a pretty traditional structure. So they're eligible to receive milestone payments associated with certain development, regulatory, and commercial milestones. I think those were all disclosed upfront. And yeah, so that's pretty much the structure. So there's also tiered double-digit royalties on sales of 707, which we're now calling 4404. So if you want to reference, I think we disclosed those all in the initial press release. But pretty traditional structure.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Next question, please.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Okay. I think we're actually, Jeff, I can close it because I think that was our. Oh, no, there's one more. I apologize. We just saw in the queue.

Operator

We'll go next to Chris Schott with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Hi, this is Ethan on for Chris Schott. Thanks for taking our questions. Just maybe broadly, can you talk about how you think about the relative opportunities with 4404, either alone or in combo with chemo versus kind of the opportunities you have in combination with your ADCs and kind of in the context of increased competition with just the VEGF bispecifics? Thank you.

Jeff Legos
Chief Oncology Officer, Pfizer

Yeah, thanks for the question, Ethan, and I'm happy to start just with a broad overview, and then I'll pass it over to Johanna, so as mentioned earlier, for both non-small cell lung cancer and colorectal cancer, despite the progress with chemotherapy plus or minus immunotherapy and lung cancer are plus or minus that this is a MeV in colorectal cancer. Both of these represent a significant unmet medical need, and both of these represent a pretty rapid path to the initial approvals and development because they are simple add-on trial designs, so you're combining on top of the standard of care to hopefully improve, displace, or replace the existing chemotherapy regimens and/or in combination with 4404. As we think about the novel combinations, this is where the breadth and the depth of our portfolio represent a significant and unique opportunity for us to differentiate.

So maybe, Johanna, I'll turn it over to you to share a little bit more as to how you're thinking about the next wave of opportunities.

Johanna Bendell
Chief Development Officer for Oncology, Pfizer

Thanks so much, Jeff. And thanks so much for the question. I think one thing we're particularly proud of at Pfizer in terms of our antibody drug conjugates is data that we've seen combining the Vedotin antibody drug conjugates with immune checkpoint inhibitors. We've already seen proof of this in the combination with our molecule PADCEV and pembrolizumab, where we see improvement in the immunogenic potential of a PD-1 inhibitor, particularly when combined with a Vedotin payload rather than a Topo 1 payload. So we're hoping to not only take advantage of that Vedotin ADC, but also with our novel targets for the Vedotin ADC, such as integrin beta-6 with our SV molecule and PD-L1 with our PD-L1V molecule. We also see across the spectrum of different tumor types, areas where both anti-angiogenic approaches and immunotherapy approaches work.

We're very excited for this molecule because we think that we have the potential to improve hitting both of these pathways. So as we start to think about the broad potential of these molecules being able to hit both of these pathways harder and potentially with less toxicity, we can think about a lot of different tumor types that could potentially benefit from this, not only in combination with our Vedotin ADCs, but also in combination with other treatments such as the standard of care that Jeff was alluding to, as well as potentially with single agent.

Francesca DeMartino
Chief Investor Relations Officer, Pfizer

Okay, great. Jeff, that was our last question. So I just want to thank Jeff, Johanna, and Arati again for joining us this morning. This was a really comprehensive overview. And for those of you that have dialed in and our sell-side analysts, thank you so much for your time and your engagement. And I hope everybody has a wonderful week. And we will see you and talk to you soon. Everyone can disconnect. Thank you so much.

Operator

This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.

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