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Earnings Call: Q2 2019

Aug 5, 2019

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Plug Power second quarter earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow this presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Teal Vivacqua Hoyos, Director of Marketing and Communications. Thank you. You may begin.

Teal Vivacqua Hoyos
Director of Marketing and Communications, Plug Power

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to the Plug Power 2019 second quarter earnings call. This call will include forward-looking statements. We intend these forward-looking statements to be covered by the safe harbor provisions for forward-looking statements contained in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. We believe that it is important to communicate our future expectations to investors. However, investors are cautioned not to unduly rely on forward-looking statements because they involve risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those discussed as a result of various factors, including but not limited to, risks and uncertainties discussed under Item 1A, Risk Factors, in our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ending December 31st, 2018, as well as other reports we file from time to time with the SEC.

These forward-looking statements speak only as of the day in which the statements are made, and we do not undertake or intend to update any forward-looking statements after this call. At this point, I would like to turn the call over to Plug Power's CEO, Andy Marsh.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Thank you for joining the second quarter conference call. Today, we issued our second-quarter shareholder letter, which provides details about our second-quarter performance, as well as our outlook for the remainder of the year. Let me start by saying it was a good quarter. The key highlight is that we showed substantial improvement in operating margins and adjusted EBITDA. This improvement is both year-over-year and on a sequential basis. This underscores inherent operating leverages in our business model. At a quarterly gross billing rate of about $60 million, we are breakeven at our current cost structure. In addition, ongoing cost reductions continue to lower this threshold. Some highlights for the quarter include the company deployed over 2,000 GenDrive units, up 70% year-over-year, and reported gross billings of $58.6 million, up 50% year-over-year.

Additionally, the company was EBITDA break even for the second time in the past three quarters. We also completed a small tuck-in, small scale hydrogen fuel cells technology acquisition to complement our suite of offerings for broader logistics, robotics, and UAV markets. We expanded into on-road vehicle applications and secured our first commercial scale deployment of ProGen fuel cells for on-road logistics with StreetScooter, a subsidiary of DHL. As people know, DHL is the world's largest logistics and mail communication service company. Starting with 100 units for on-the-road vehicles, the program is expected to expand. According to Markus Reckling, the head of German operations at DHL Express, "If everything works as we imagine it would, there could soon be 500 vehicles worldwide." He further added that 80%-90% of last mile delivery vehicles would likely be a hybrid system, including batteries and fuel cells.

Few more items before moving on to the question and answers. One, we are reiterating our 2019 guidance, gross revenues between $235 million-$245 million, adjusted EBITDA for the full year 2019 when you exclude non-cash charges for customer warrants. Three, finally, the company will make four major announcements. DHL StreetScooter was our first. Also, we will be hosting the Plug Power Symposium on September 17th and 18th in Latham, New York. We're bringing together a group of the hydrogen fuel cell industry's thought leaders to discuss pertinent issues that will help accelerate the growth of the industry. The program will feature key industrial players, including suppliers and major customers. We'll ask them to share their experience and growth aspirations. Additionally, we'll share additional insights on the second day, highlighting both Plug Power's near-term and long-term plans. Paul and I will now be open to your questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will begin our question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer & Co. Please state your question.

Colin Rusch
Analyst, Oppenheimer & Co

Thanks so much, guys. Obviously, there's been some significant M&A activity in the sector in the past quarter with Cummins move into the space. Can you talk a little bit about what you think the implications are for infrastructure build-out and availability and bankability of that infrastructure as we go through the back half of this year and into next year?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

I think, Colin, we view that acquisition as good for the whole ecosystem for the hydrogen fuel cell industry. We think it's just a small piece of a bigger pie that's going on globally. I think when you look at commitments that are being made by large companies that they view that this industry, that there'll be over $300 billion of investments over the next 10 to 12 years, obviously, infrastructure is part of that. When I take a look, I have a parochial view of this, but I think the fact that Plug Power has deployed more units, has built more hydrogen infrastructure, used more hydrogen than everyone else, which we think is a real long-term opportunity for the company, that we think we're well-positioned for this expanding, growing industry, and I think our results in this past quarter is an indicator of that.

Colin Rusch
Analyst, Oppenheimer & Co

Okay. The follow-up here is just really about the development activity on the over-the-road market. Obviously, there's an awful lot going on. Can you give us a sense of kind of order of magnitude in terms of how many folks you're talking to in terms of new programs? Obviously, you've mentioned the number of announcements you expect to make, kind of order of magnitude on the number of conversations and then the cadence of how those things are likely to move forward.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Sure. Colin, let me just take a step back and say, first, the announcement with StreetScooter and DHL and the level of publicity that came with it has been helpful in engaging folks from outside to come to Plug Power about potential opportunities. I think that we remain the pure-play company that is not tied up with anyone, and it puts us in a unique position. We have a prepackaged, well-defined ProGen engine, which makes it easy for integrators, OEMs to integrate into their products. I'll just say that we have had tier-one OEMs here to visit us. We've been dealing with worldwide integrators, especially in Europe and the United States, and that I would expect that over the coming year that you'll see continual announcements by Plug Power for our deployments in these sectors.

I'll just add, we're not talking about one or two units. One item is that during my entire tenure here, I haven't been all that interested in a few units per show. It has to lead to long-term program and project development, and that has always been our focus, and that's the type of people we're engaging with.

Colin Rusch
Analyst, Oppenheimer & Co

Okay. That's super helpful. Thanks so much.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Okay.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum. Please state your question.

Eric Stine
Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Hi, Andy. Hi, Paul.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Hey, Eric.

Eric Stine
Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Hey, just interested in talking more, you mentioned it in your newsletter, your priorities for hydrogen, obviously, availability and price certainty, key for adoption? I know that you are starting to own more tanks so you can source hydrogen at the optimal price. Maybe some more details about some potential steps that you can take to achieve your objectives.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

I think, Eric, you'll see activity in a number of different areas. You mentioned tanks. I think you hit on a critical point. I think that you'll see an announcement where we'll do a longer-term deal for price stability with one of the liquid hydrogen companies. I think you'll also see, Colin, that Plug will take some steps to move closer into the generation business. I think that at the symposium in mid-September, not to kind of kick the question out, I think part of our presentations will be about the strategic steps we're taking to move deeper into hydrogen to improve our margins and make sure that cost-effective hydrogen is available for our customers.

Eric Stine
Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Got it. Is that fair to say, I think earlier in the year when you talked about the four major announcements, something with an industrial gas partner, I believe, was one of those four. Is it fair that we should still think about that being the case?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Yes.

Eric Stine
Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Okay. Just related to providing the fuel on the margin side, I know that's an objective to improve that. Just maybe steps there or how you think that's trending and what we should look for going forward?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Paul, do you want to take how you view it's trending?

Paul Middleton
CFO, Plug Power

Yeah. I think, again, there's ebbs and flows given volatility of timing of events and different dynamics. You've seen over the last couple of years a continued progression, and you're going to continue to see that. You mentioned earlier, Eric, the tank scenario as an example. We only own today about 10% of the tanks out of all of our sites. We've got a program now rolling out where we're actually replacing over the next year to year and a half, many of those in the field as those programs come up for renewal, and we work on refreshes with customers. That's going to have a dramatic impact in our ability to negotiate pricing with our carriers and our fuel supply. Not to mention all of the efficiency investments that we have made and we continue to make.

I think, somewhere in the next 12 months, you'll see that move and migrate towards kind of breaking even. Post that, we should be in that breakeven to positive range as we move on into the near term. Good results so far and we expect it to continue to get better.

Eric Stine
Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Got it. Okay. Maybe just sticking with margins, just one last one for me. Just on the product gross margin, a very good 40% number. Just maybe how that breaks down between GenDrive and infrastructure, and is this a good level to think about going forward?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

I'll let you take that, Paul.

Paul Middleton
CFO, Plug Power

Yeah. In this particular quarter, it was all units, so that helps. We had a lot of shipments to a lot of migration of a lot of programs where we were shipping infrastructure, but the majority of the revenue was units, so that helps a great deal. We have seen tremendous growth in our margin profile of the infrastructure and we continue to see that trend as we progress.

Eric Stine
Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright. Please state your question.

Amit Dayal
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Thank you. Good morning, Andy. Good morning, Paul.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Good morning, Amit.

Amit Dayal
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

On the operating leverage side, is this $22.5 million OpEx number sort of where you level off for the next few quarters?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Paul, you want to take that?

Paul Middleton
CFO, Plug Power

I'm sorry, I didn't hear.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

It's a question about, is this operating expense for this quarter where we expect to level off for the future?

Paul Middleton
CFO, Plug Power

Yeah, Amit. Hey, good morning. Sorry. I think every year in the second quarter, we have a little bit of a bump with our annual compensation programs. I expect that next quarter to resort back to that kind of $17.5 million-$18 million level as we progress forward.

Amit Dayal
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Understood. Thank you. This recent acquisition, Andy, EnergyOr, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

That is correct.

Amit Dayal
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

How does this fit into your product suite? When will this potentially become part of your sales efforts or show up in your results? Any color on how we should expect this to support your growth efforts?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

There's actually two aspects here, Amit. One is I'll call near to midterm. What EnergyOr has done is developed a very cost-effective low-power platform. When we think about the warehouse of the future, which we're actually deeply involved with now, probably 2,000 units that we have out there are automatic guided vehicles. We see that this technology is, even though designed for drones, is really important for the intelligent robots of the future. It really helps us support not only our customers today, but our customers for the future to move to hydrogen. I would also talk about, though they've worked in small-scale robotics, people who have joined the company from the acquisition, they also have a deep understanding of aviation from their past lives.

Though I view aviation opportunities, things like short-haul aerial taxis, as probably a bit longer out, what it really has done, and we have had engagements with folks who have recognized that aerial taxis have real limitations using batteries, both from a weight and distance travel point of view. Somewhere around traveling for 20 minutes, we believe fuel cells, like with on-road vehicles, are far superior to batteries. It is an area that, from a technology set, an opportunity we're exploring, and we felt the people at EnergyOr have really contributed greatly to those discussions since joining the company.

Amit Dayal
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Understood. Moving on to these catalysts you've highlighted previously as well, is the timeline still the end of the year for the remaining three catalysts to be presented to the street?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Yes, I am sure you'll hear one at the Plug Power Symposium.

Amit Dayal
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Understood. Thank you. Just last one on the fueling sites number. We were at 72 last quarter. Has that changed, and are we still targeting the 100 level for the end of the year?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Yes.

Amit Dayal
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Okay. Any increase from 72 in the first quarter?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

I believe it's more than 72, and that may be 72 that we own, Paul?

Paul Middleton
CFO, Plug Power

Yeah. That's right. That's where we have the infrastructure and the fueling associated with it. The number will have gone up a bit, but again, there's a timing difference in terms of when some of that will roll into the revenues for the year.

Amit Dayal
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Okay. Understood. That's all I have. Thank you so much, guys.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Okay. All right. Bye.

Operator

Thank you. Just a reminder, to ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. That's the star key followed by the one key on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from Chris Souther with Cowen. Please state your question.

Chris Souther
Analyst, Cowen

Hey, thanks for taking my question. You mentioned the 70% cost reduction over the last 10 years, which is impressive. I just wanted to get an idea, how does pricing and cost for the larger GenDrive units for the FCEVs compare on a kilowatt basis? I'm trying to get an idea of how modular the new systems are going to be and how much common parts you can transfer from material handling business.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

That's a good question, Chris. If you take a look, for example, today, 99% of the new stacks that I shipped in the second quarter were Plug stacks, and those stacks today are beginning to ship with Plug membranes. That was an acquisition we did last year. When you start thinking about the membrane design and the stack design, that's certainly applicable and almost directly applicable into on-road vehicles. If you start thinking about items which the balance of plant, which is used to control and manage the stack, very much like any electronic product, the control system and monitoring system that's used for controlling the stack is almost identical for on-road vehicles. The component set is very similar and very beneficial to new applications for Plug Power.

Chris Souther
Analyst, Cowen

Got it. Can you talk a bit about the infrastructure build-out that's planned as far as around the StreetScooter deal? What are you guys providing as part of that versus third parties? How much spending by you other needs to take place for the first 100 and then building up to the 500 DHLs would be talking about after that?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Chris, already in Germany, there are over 100 fueling stations. We will be using the publicly available, StreetScooter, DHL will be using the publicly available fueling stations. Plug Power has not been involved in the build-out of those publicly available stations. It'll be centered around four of those stations, very much set up for fleet vehicles. That's what's going on. That's how the hydrogen infrastructure will be handled for those products. The good news, unlike many other places of the world, the infrastructure is there today.

Chris Souther
Analyst, Cowen

Well, that's great. Then just the last one, your 2019 guide has you growing about 25%, 30% this year. It's almost entirely material handling, although it looks like maybe some of the StreetScooter gets recognized in fourth Q or so. How does the pipeline for that core business look heading into 2020 as far as larger existing customers and new customers? What should we think about kind of the continued penetration for that business heading forward, excluding StreetScooter and the other three deals?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Sure. Chris, I think the key to that business will continue to grow at the rate. I think the key is adding another Walmart and Amazon, and we feel confident about that. At our Symposium in September, not to kind of kick the question again, we will roll out the 2020 expectations as well as our beliefs for the next five years. I would say that we do have an aggressive plan to continue to grow and expand the business. From a timing point of view, I've been doing this for 11 years now. The momentum in material handling and the other segments has never been greater for the company.

Chris Souther
Analyst, Cowen

That's great. I look forward to hearing more about that at the Symposium then. Thanks.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, to ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. That's star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from Craig Irwin with Roth Capital Partners. Please state your question.

Craig Irwin
Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners

Hi, good morning, and thanks for taking my questions.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Morning, Craig.

Craig Irwin
Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners

Hi, Andy, Paul. When we look forward, right, your accomplishment looking backwards on the cost out is really impressive. When we look forward, you did say in the presentation that you expect to be the largest U.S. MEA producer by the end of the year. Can you maybe frame out for us the opportunity for continued cost reduction in the stack and the overall system? Are there potential components that you could pull in production on to improve the economics for Plug? Are there pieces of the equation that you see as low-hanging fruit for continued cost out that maybe can continue this trajectory over the next couple of years?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Craig, it's a very good question. I think the answer to your question is yes. I would say this, I don't want to go too detail in public, but we see, for example, that over the next year or two, we can pull another 30% of the cost out of the stack based on higher volume membrane production, based on design changes to the stack itself. When I look at the stack and other activities, we're in very early stages here in the fuel cell industry for driving down cost. I think I look at the design itself, very much like my experience in telecom. You continue to look at higher levels of integration and moving from multiple boards to single boards to fewer components.

A lot of it, when I always look at this, Craig, I would say that 30%-50% of our cost reduction comes from supply chain and volume, and the rest comes from design innovation. Our team has a three to five-year roadmap, how we continue to bring down costs. Ultimately, I think we can be on this track for a good four or five more years.

Craig Irwin
Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners

Great. That's good to hear. Next thing I wanted to ask about is a big-picture question. Fuel cells superior to batteries. I get it. It's something that makes sense when you have large facilities with lots of trucks and refueling time and the operation of the recharge room is a real plus for fuel cells. Lithium-ion seems to be making a little bit inroads in the industry. It does share some of the positive attributes from an economic standpoint that fuel cells do. It is also quite a bit more expensive than lead acid. Can you maybe talk about where you see lithium-ion fitting in competitively over the next couple of years? Is this something that you see as a potential threat, or is it maybe an opportunity for Plug?

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Yeah. Craig, that's another good question. I'm even going to take it up a step higher. I've never been someone who said that fuel cells answer all questions, that it's a perfect technology for all apps. Where fuel cells are successful, whether it's material handling on-road vehicles, is if you have fleet vehicles and you use the asset a great deal. That means that the attributes of fast fueling, constant power, longer range actually adds value to your application. I always look at this and think about it from a customer point of view. If I was running a single shift with a fleet of 40 trucks, I would be seriously looking at lithium batteries. If I was looking at that same facility, and I think it may grow to two to three shifts long-term, I think I would put fuel cells in.

I think just like the broader electrification market, I think there'll be applications in material handling where batteries make sense, and I think there'll be applications where fuel cells make sense.

Craig Irwin
Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners

I like that response. Thank you, Andy. Thanks for taking my questions.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Thank you, Craig.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn it back to Andy Marsh for closing remarks. Thanks.

Andy Marsh
CEO, Plug Power

Thank you everyone for joining our call today, and I'm looking forward to seeing all the analysts at our upcoming Plug Power Symposium. Thank you very much.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. All parties may disconnect. Have a great day.