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Earnings Call: Q4 2018

Jan 29, 2019

Operator

Good morning. My name is Kathy, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q4 2018 Pentair Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. Thank you. Mr. Lucas, you may begin your conference.

Jim Lucas
SVP of Investor Relations and Treasurer, Pentair

Thanks, Kathy, and welcome to Pentair's fourth quarter 2018 earnings conference call. We're glad you could join us. I'm Jim Lucas, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer. With me today is John Stauch, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Borin, our Chief Financial Officer. On today's call, we will provide details on our fourth quarter and full year 2018 performance, as well as our first quarter and full year 2019 outlook, as outlined in this morning's press release. Before we begin, let me remind you that any statements made about the company's anticipated financial results are forward-looking statements subject to future risks and uncertainties, such as the risks outlined in Pentair's most recent Form 10-Q, Form 10-K and today's press release.

Forward-looking statements included herein are made as of today, and the company undertakes no obligation to update publicly such statements to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. Actual results could differ materially from anticipated results. Today's webcast is accompanied by a presentation which can be found in the investor relations section of Pentair's website. We will reference these slides throughout our prepared remarks. Any references to non-GAAP financials are reconciled in the appendix of the presentation. We will be sure to reserve time for questions and answers after our prepared remarks. I would like to request that you limit your questions to one and a follow-up in order to ensure everyone an opportunity to ask their questions. I will now turn the call over to John.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to slide number four, titled Executive Summary. 2018 was a very busy year for Pentair and one we are very proud of. We completed the successful separation of nVent to shareholders. We developed a detailed and executable residential and commercial water treatment strategy, and we over-drove our 2018 commitments despite the impact of tariffs and inflation. In addition to financial performance, we returned nearly $700 million to shareholders through buybacks and dividends. Our cash generation remains strong and our balance sheet is in great shape. To start 2019, we announced agreements for two strategic acquisitions that will help us advance our residential and commercial water treatment strategy. After Mark discusses our financial performance, I will speak more about these two deals.

We are very pleased with what we believe was a successful 2018 for Pentair, and we continue to believe we are well positioned for 2019 and beyond. Please turn to slide five, labeled Financial Highlights. Before turning the call over to Mark, I wanted to spend a moment reviewing some of the highlights for the quarter and the year. In the fourth quarter, we saw core sales grow 6% and our adjusted EPS grow 15%. For the full- year, our sales grew 5%. We expanded our return on sales 60 basis points while making a number of strategic growth investments to position us for the longer term. Adjusted EPS grew 21% and we generated over $400 million in free cash flow.

For 2019, we expect core sales to grow 4%-5%, segment income to increase 8%-12%, and adjusted EPS to be in the range of $2.50-$2.60 per share, an increase of 6%-11%. Once again, we are targeting free cash flow to approximate adjusted net income. While we expect some of the headwinds we face in 2018, mostly inflation, to continue, we believe we are well positioned to deliver on our commitments once again as we anticipate consistency, predictability and sustained performance to return to Pentair. I would now like to turn the call over to Mark to discuss the fourth quarter results and provide more details on our full year 2019 outlook before I provide an update on our key strategic growth initiatives.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Thank you, John. Please turn to slide six, labeled Full Year 2018 Pentair Performance. As John mentioned, core sales grew 5% for the full year. Our Aquatic Systems businesses led the way with robust 11% core sales growth while both the Filtration and Flow segments contributed low single-digit core sales growth for the full year. Segment income increased 8%, while ROS expanded 60 basis points to 18.1%. We are particularly pleased with our segment income and ROS performance for the year, given the significant inflation headwinds we faced. Adjusted EPS grew 21% to $2.35 per share, which exceeded our initial 2018 guidance of $2.20-$2.30 per share set last February. Finally, we generated over $400 million in free cash flow. With strong core sales growth, ROS expansion, and adjusted EPS growth, we were very pleased with our full year 2018 performance.

Now turn to slide seven, labeled Q4 2018 Pentair Performance. For the fourth quarter, we reported core sales growth of 6%, ROS expansion of 40 basis points to 18.1%, and adjusted EPS growth of 15% to $0.60 per share. We'll provide more color on the individual segment performance shortly. Below the line, we saw an adjusted tax rate of 18%, net interest other, expense of $6 million, and our average shares in the quarter were 174 million. As we mentioned at the beginning of the call, we bought back another 100 million of stock in the quarter. Please turn to slide eight, labeled Q4 '18 Pentair Segment Performance. This slide lays out the fourth quarter performance of our three segments.

Aquatic Systems delivered another strong quarter with 13% core sales growth and 10% segment income growth. We do believe that some of our distributors likely pulled forward some sales in an effort to beat the impact of our price increases. We believe Aquatics remains well-positioned entering 2019, and its industry dynamics remain favorable. Core sales were flat in Filtration Solutions, with segment income growing 8% and return on sales expanding 170 basis points to 17.9%. Throughout 2018, we have been refocusing our filtration business to be less dependent on lower margin, lumpy project business, and instead focused on our core component and systems businesses. Although the top-line trends were less favorable than in 2018, we were pleased with the income and margin performance of the segment. Flow Technologies reported 4% core sales growth, which represented its fifth consecutive quarter of improved sales performance.

The segment income performance was adversely affected by rebate activity as increased volume levels in front of price increases occurred in the quarter. Overall, Flow Technologies is entering 2019 with its price realization more in line with the increased inflationary pressures that materialized in the second half of 2018. Please turn to Slide nine, labeled Balance Sheet and Cash Flow. We are very pleased with the results of 2018, as we significantly reduced our debt levels while returning nearly $700 million to shareholders. We ended 2018 with our net debt to EBITDA leverage at less than 1.5x . Shortly before the end of 2018, we announced a 3% dividend increase for 2019, which will mark our 43rd consecutive year of dividend increases. We announced agreements for two acquisitions that, when completed, we expect to invest $280 million.

Although we do see some seasonal cash usage in the first quarter each year, we believe we remain well-positioned to invest in our core businesses, look at attractive, strategically aligned tuck-in acquisitions or bolt-on acquisition targets, and continue to return cash to shareholders. Please turn to Slide 10, labeled Full Year 2019 Outlook. Today, we are introducing our 2019 outlook. We expect core sales to grow 4%-5%, which is comprised of about 3% of price and 1%-2% of volume. We expect total sales growth of 5%-6%, with roughly 3% contribution from the recently announced acquisition, offset by a 1% headwind from FX and another point headwind from divestitures. We anticipate segment income growing 8%-12%, inclusive of acquisitions.

While inflation is anticipated to remain a headwind, we expect price to principally offset inflation for the full year and productivity to provide to our improved performance. We are introducing an adjusted EPS range of $2.50-$2.60 per share, an increase of 6%-11%. Other items embedded in our guidance include corporate expense of $60 million-$65 million, a tax rate of 20.5%, net interest other expense of $37 million, and an average share count for the year of approximately 172 million shares. We wanted to provide some additional color on a few items. First, the increase in corporate expense is reflective of how we allocate some of our costs, in addition to four quarters of our new structure, as 2018 represented just three quarters, given the timing of the separation of nVent last April.

We are guiding our 2019 tax rate to increase to 20.5%. This requires some further explanation. Late in 2018, the IRS proposed new regulations that, if approved as final, could present a headwind to our current tax rate of 18%. These proposed changes are not expected to be finalized until June or July if they do indeed get approved as final. However, we are factoring in a 250-basis-point increase to our full-year tax rate. We expect our first quarter tax rate will remain at 18%, with any true-up happening in Q2 or Q3, if and when the regulations are finalized. Our estimated share count of 172 million does account for us buying back $150 million in shares for the full year, which is consistent with our previously communicated long-term plans regarding buybacks. Please turn to Slide 11, labeled Seasonality Expected to Continue.

We wanted to remind everyone that our business does experience some seasonality during the year. The past two years have seen similar trends that we would expect to continue. We thought this would be a useful reminder as you think about the quarterly distribution of sales and adjusted EPS. Please turn to Slide 12, labeled Q1 2019 Pentair Outlook. We anticipate first quarter core sales to grow 4%-5%, with all three segments contributing. We expect Aquatic Systems to be up 4%-6%, Filtration Solutions to be flat to up 1%, and Flow Technologies to grow 3%-6%. Segment income is anticipated to be up approximately 2%-5%, and adjusted EPS is expected to be in a range of $0.52-$0.55 per share, which would represent growth of 6%-12%.

Below the line, we expect a first quarter tax rate to be 18%, net interest other expense of roughly $7 million, and shares to be approximately 172.5 million. While the first quarter is our seasonally lightest period of the year, we believe we are well-positioned to see our core sales growth trends continue. I would now like to turn the call back to John.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Thank you, Mark. Please turn to slide number 13, titled Pentair Strategy Summary. We have used this page consistently in our earnings presentations to remind everyone of our strategy to be the leading residential and commercial water treatment company, and to share with you the areas where we are investing in growth. Our focused areas of strategy remain on advancing growth in pool and accelerating residential and commercial water treatment, which requires investment at the business and the enterprise level. Our approach to capital allocation remains disciplined, and we are committed to maintaining our investment-grade rating, reinvesting in our most attractive core businesses, and paying a competitive dividend. We also look at a balanced approach between M&A and intelligent buybacks, with our M&A decisions being informed by overall valuations and the quality of assets available, as well as our ability to integrate them successfully.

Please turn to slide 14, labeled Two Strategic Deals. We've discussed throughout 2018 that accelerating residential commercial water treatment is one of our two key strategic growth initiatives. We also discussed throughout 2018 that we were building our M&A funnel, and we are very pleased to have announced agreements for two strategic acquisitions that help us further this key growth initiative. On January 7th, we announced that we have signed agreements to acquire Aquion and Pelican Water Systems. We discussed last quarter that we are in the early innings of moving up the value chain from being a leading component supplier to introducing smart, connected, branded products and solutions. We expect these two acquisitions to add roughly $110 million in revenue, and combined have margins that are above the Filtration segment's average. Both of these acquisitions help us further our move up the value chain.

We are really excited about Aquion bringing a national affiliated dealer network, which is under the RainSoft brand. Aquion also brings a diverse line of whole home water treatment systems, in addition to ozone and ultraviolet disinfection systems and internet-enabled solutions. Pelican is an exciting acquisition for us because it brings us a direct-to-consumer model through a proprietary e-commerce platform. Pelican also has a number of innovative water treatment systems and services that we'll be able to sell through all of our distribution channels. We still expect these acquisitions to close in the first quarter of 2019, subject to customary closing conditions and necessary regulatory approvals. We remain excited about our opportunity to advance our residential and commercial water treatment strategy. I would now like to turn the call over to Kathy for Q&A, after which I will have a few closing remarks. Kathy, please open the line for questions.

Thank you.

Operator

Yes, sir. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star, then the number one. Your first question comes from the line of Nathan Jones with Stifel.

Nathan Jones
Senior Equity Analyst, Stifel

Morning, everyone.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Good morning, Nathan.

Nathan Jones
Senior Equity Analyst, Stifel

Mark, I think you commented there that you thought there was a little bit of pull forward in the Aquatic Systems. Any kind of color you could give there, and if you think there was any kind of pull forward in any of the other businesses that's worth calling out.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Yeah. I talked about it in the Aquatic Systems and also referenced a little bit in Flow Technologies as well. If you think about it's probably about one points to two points of growth in 2018 that then presents a headwind for 2019.

Nathan Jones
Senior Equity Analyst, Stifel

One points to two points total for the year, or just that in the fourth quarter that you're talking about?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

For the year.

Nathan Jones
Senior Equity Analyst, Stifel

For the year. I would also like to talk about the productivity bar that you guys disclosed, which was fairly low in 4Q and in 3Q. Can you maybe talk about what the delays are there on seeing the productivity improvement? I think you talked about for 2019 price offsets inflation and productivity drops to the bottom line. Maybe any discussion about what you're expecting out of productivity in 2019?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Sure. I think as you think about it amongst the three segments, when you look at the segment performance in Q4, you can see that good performance in Aquatics and Filtration. Really the productivity story for Q4 was driven by Flow Technologies and their main drivers of productivity there relate to some operational challenges in a couple of factories that manufacture large pumps. We saw that in Q4. The team's been focused on improving that, and we see that likely turning around in the first half of 2019.

Nathan Jones
Senior Equity Analyst, Stifel

Okay, it's a couple discrete things there that are dragging the productivity numbers down in the second half. They get solved in the first half. Any idea what we should expect out of productivity in 2019?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

As we think about kind of our overall guidance for 2019, we talked about price and inflation kind of offsetting each other. The margin expansion coming from volume and from incremental productivity.

Nathan Jones
Senior Equity Analyst, Stifel

Okay, thanks. I'll pass it on.

Operator

Your next question comes from Joe Giordano with Cowen.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Hey, Joe.

Joe Giordano
Managing Director, Cowen

Hey, guys. Morning.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Good morning.

Joe Giordano
Managing Director, Cowen

Can you guys talk on the filtration side, I know this is a real focus for you guys. Can you talk about maybe the brand that you're building here, and as you're bringing in these new businesses, you're getting out of some kind of non-core assets there as well. Can you talk about the value proposition and how it's changing, and also how consistent is the messaging around this one cohesive Pentair Filtration brand and kind of where you see that going?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Clearly, it's not today, and it is our goal to have a Pentair brand that represents our filtration opportunity. These two acquisitions that we bring in are helpful in that regard because we have to get closer to the consumer. The consumer's making choices, and we have to make that a brand-based loyalty program in which then we can give the whole value chain of distribution, from the products to the systems to also the services that are necessary, either through our direct channel or our affiliated channel. It's important as we think about building it out. I ultimately think that most consumers just want water as a service. They don't necessarily care about the products or the components that they're buying. They want a solution for the ZIP code or the geography or the country they live in, and that's where this is all heading, Joe.

That's why we think we need to have that consumer touch and be close to the consumer to be able to bring that story forward.

Joe Giordano
Managing Director, Cowen

As that kind of happens, is that something that leads to a sustainably more predictable, higher margin business consistently?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

That's absolutely the goal. Our residential commercial Filtration Solutions business today is already higher margin, but I think you mentioned the predictable and consistency part of that is the main driver in making sure that there's more of an annuity-based view of how we service that customer over time.

Joe Giordano
Managing Director, Cowen

Okay. That's great. Then two kind of clarifications here. Do you have any color on the margin guidance by segment into 2019, and on your comment about price offsetting inflation, is that a consistent statement across all three segments as well?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Yeah, that would be consistent generally across all three segments. No, we don't have specific guidance on segment profitability for 2019.

Joe Giordano
Managing Director, Cowen

Is there anything with direction? We could do the math to get to it at a segment level, but is there anything you'd point out on an individual segment basis that we should take into consideration as we do that?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

I think if you think about our overall segment growth of 8%-12% and continued strong margins in Aquatic Systems and the upside that we talked about on the Flow Technologies businesses, that productivity in Q4 turns around, I think that would kind of frame the way to think about 2019 by segment.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Joe, we expect them all to improve.

Joe Giordano
Managing Director, Cowen

Yeah.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

We do want to maintain some flexibility for our strategic growth investments as we think about ramping up or ramping down the investment based upon how we see the organic growth. So, don't want to lock into specific targets by segment, but we're expecting them all to improve.

Joe Giordano
Managing Director, Cowen

Mark, can you just get into that tax thing that you mentioned? I think there's just some people who aren't sure exactly what this is. What is this proposed regulation, and how does it apply to you guys?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Yeah, sure.

Joe Giordano
Managing Director, Cowen

Thanks.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Sure. I know that's a new data point. Right at the end of 2018, the IRS published new regulations, and a lot of that related to them writing regulations around laws that were passed a year earlier. Specifically related to us, not surprisingly, a part of our global structure, there were regulations specifically around the deductibility of interest in the United States, and it's those new regulations and the technical interpretation of those that applied to us, and that's where we see this headwind of 250 basis points going from 18% to 20.5%. As I said in my prepared remarks, we've included that in our guidance for the year. The regulations are proposed right now, so they're not final. As proposed, they're effective as of January 1st, 2019, which is why we put them in our full-year guidance.

They won't actually get finalized, we don't think, until the end of June or perhaps early July. That's why we guide it to 18% in Q1, because they won't have been finalized, so we won't implement them in Q1. And we'll see what happens in Q2 and if they're revised or if they're kept the same as they were originally proposed. That'll inform the tax rate in Q2 and the true-up that would happen in Q2 to get to a full-year rate of 20.5%.

Joe Giordano
Managing Director, Cowen

Good. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Your next question comes from Mike Halloran with Baird.

Mike Halloran
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Baird

Hey, morning, everyone.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Good morning, Mike.

Mike Halloran
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Baird

Quick question here then on just underlying assumptions for the broader environment as you work your way through the year here. It seems based on the guidance that core trends are expected to be relatively stable through the year. Just want some clarification on that, and if there's anything that we should know about trajectory as we work through the year on the demand side.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

I think you read it right. We're expecting about three points of price in this outlook, and we got one to two points of volume, and we're basically seeing the same core trends throughout the year. Mike, as we mentioned, I think given the substantial price increases that were put into place in Q3 and Q4, we do think that distributors and dealers took advantage of buying a little bit ahead. We'll probably expect a little slower start in the Q1. If you recall, we had a very strong Q1 last year. We'd probably expect to have a stronger Q2, Q3 outlook as we did not have such a great Q2. We're going to see that type of movement, I think, as we go through. Overall, core trends remain stable.

We're not necessarily a new housing install, where we tend to be more of the aftermarket served. Certainly, in the residential commercial space, we're close to 85% in the aftermarket side. All those trends feel pretty much the same as they were last year.

Mike Halloran
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Baird

Any regional variances you would point out that you're seeing right now?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

No. I think we're aware of them. We're hearing that China's slower. It's a good news, bad news story for us. It's less than 4% of our overall revenue, so we're not big enough to really matter in China. Our opportunity to continue to grow our business there is because we're not starting from a big base, so we have an opportunity to expand our revenue. Other than that, I think Europe remains the way it generally was last year. It wasn't a huge contributory factor to 2018, and we don't think it's a huge headwind to 2019.

Mike Halloran
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Baird

Then, just one clarification, the Aquion and Pelican acquisitions, those are assumed in your guidance and based on the divestiture acquisition contribution first quarter versus the rest of the year. It seems like those are assumed to be coming in at the beginning of the second quarter, late first quarter. Is that about right?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

That's right. We expect them to close sometime here in the back half of the first quarter, and we've added them to guidance on that basis.

Mike Halloran
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Baird

All right, great. Thank you for your time. Appreciate it.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Patrick Baumann with J.P. Morgan.

Patrick Baumann
Equity Research Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. Had a few questions. Maybe first just on the cadence of the year. The first quarter segment income growth of 2%-5% versus the full-year 8%-12%. I think you mentioned maybe the pull forward is impacting the top line a little bit in the first quarter. What's impacting the margins? Is it just inflation still a drag in the first half and it gets better in the second half? Just curious if you could help understand the underlying factors behind the profit growth in the first quarter versus the full-year guide being a little bit lighter.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Sure, yeah. John had mentioned before that Q1 last year was a really strong quarter. So that certainly the year-over-year comps are part of that. I talked about the guidance around the corporate investment being up slightly year-over-year. A fair bit of that comes in the first quarter, in particular because of the timing of the separation last year and that our standalone structure was in place from May 1st going forward. Those are really the key drivers. The underlying operating performance is not that significantly impacted as you look quarter-over-quarter.

Patrick Baumann
Equity Research Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Got it. That probably answers my second question, I missed the first part of the call, around corporate going up so much. That's probably because of that standalone structure not being in place until May 1st, you'd said that earlier.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

That's right. Just overall kind of the way we allocate to the businesses.

Patrick Baumann
Equity Research Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Got it. Just on interest expense, is that just going up because of the deals?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

That's right. That includes an assumption around the interest associated with the two acquisitions.

Patrick Baumann
Equity Research Analyst, J.P. Morgan

On tax rate, if finalized, can you just confirm the normalized rate for 2020 would be that 20.5%?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

That's right, 20.5% would be our new run rate.

Patrick Baumann
Equity Research Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Then, are there things you can do capital structure-wise to offset some of that? Or is it kind of it is what it is?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

We're always looking for opportunities to effectively manage our structure just like any company. The tax team will be looking to be as efficient as possible, but based on our existing structure, the 20.5% is our estimate for 2019 and would be our run rate going forward.

Patrick Baumann
Equity Research Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Got it. Sorry, one last cleanup. For the first quarter, the growth you expect, you're going to get the three points of price starting in the first quarter? Does that layer on more in the back half of the year? Do you start a little bit slower there?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Yeah, most of the price was driven by the increases that we announced in Q3 and Q4 of 2018. It's pretty evenly spread throughout 2019. A little bit lower in the first quarter and then slight ramp, but for the most part, pretty balanced.

Patrick Baumann
Equity Research Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Okay, great. Thanks a lot, guys. Good luck.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Jeffrey Hammond
Managing Director, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hey, good morning, guys.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Hey, Jeff.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Morning.

Jeffrey Hammond
Managing Director, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hey, what's informing the better growth profile in the organic for Flow Technologies?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

They had been building a backlog primarily around the commercial infrastructure, Jeff, we were able to build that backlog up, and that's helping a lot in volume. We also had some buildup in the residential irrigation side, and as we mentioned last year, we had one kind of global destocking incident that happened in the Middle East with a distributor. We switched over a system and identified they had too much inventory. Those headwinds are gone as we look forward, and that's helping.

Jeffrey Hammond
Managing Director, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Just on the price cost dynamic, are you contemplating a move in the List 3 from 10% to 25%? How was that captured in your price?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Our inflation assumption includes the increase from 10% to 25% in List 3 that's scheduled for March 1st. That is built into our inflation assumptions for the year.

Jeffrey Hammond
Managing Director, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Last one, just on the acquisitions, can you talk about the long-term growth rates of those businesses and what you're kind of putting in the outlook or expecting for those businesses in terms of growth in 2019?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

We see the Aquion acquisition being somewhere in that 3%-5% longer-term growth range. We obviously see Pelican, which has been historically growing at very strong double digits, close to 20%, as being, at least for the near term, the expectations that we have on it. So, it's really about how do we think about these all at the right time. After we get our regulatory approvals behind us, we'll take a look at the better longer-term outlooks for these businesses.

Jeffrey Hammond
Managing Director, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay, great. Thanks, guys.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Thank you.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.

Jeff Reive
Research Associate, RBC Capital Markets

Hi. Good morning. This is Jeff Reive on for Deane Dray. Just sticking to the deals, will the new e-commerce capabilities from the Pelican deal have any meaningful conflicts with your dealer channel?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Don't expect them to. It's too different segmentation of the overall consumer market. It's very specific and targeted to areas in which they feel like they can help, more zip code by zip code. We're excited to be able to explore deeper, again, after we get the regulatory approvals, then we're hopeful that we can maybe take that capability and expand it and really help our dealer channels as well.

Jeff Reive
Research Associate, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Thanks. Then maybe just more broadly, can you give us an update on your M&A pipeline?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Yeah. We have a really well-thought-through strategy that we aligned with our board on, I think it was an exhaustive global strategy that we feel really good about being aligned on, which really gives us a better visibility to the types of deals that we're looking at. We're always looking at building the funnel, but it's also about, do they meet the strategy? Then ultimately, are they cultural fits and are they financial fits? So right now I'd say we have a strong funnel, but what makes it to a final acquisition stage also has to get through that cultural aspect and also the financial aspects.

Jeff Reive
Research Associate, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Brett Lindzey with Vertical Research Partners.

Brett Lindzey
Equity Research Analyst, Vertical Corp Research Partners

Hi. Good morning, guys.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Good morning.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Morning.

Brett Lindzey
Equity Research Analyst, Vertical Corp Research Partners

Just want to come back to inflation. Sounds like that's an all-encompassing number with the tariffs included. If I just assume three points of price, and you're going to offset commodities and inflation fully, that's about $85 million-$90 million. If you could just unbundle what is commodity inflation in that number, and then how much is tariff related?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Yeah. We've been hesitant to try to unbundle the two because there's the direct impact of tariffs, but then there's really the indirect impact of tariffs, and that's been the trick, is to be comfortable identifying that. When we think of our kind of inflation number in total, it's really the combined impact of both of those things. The direct impact of tariffs is not really that relevant. It's really more important to think about the total.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Yeah. Also keep in mind a little under 30% of that number as you do the math next year is also wage inflation, which is globally, wages are up as well.

Brett Lindzey
Equity Research Analyst, Vertical Corp Research Partners

Okay. That's helpful. Then, Filtration. Just want to understand the demand backdrop there and what you're seeing. The business showed some signs of life in Q3, softened in Q4, and the Q1 guide implies a little bit of a slow start here. Maybe just a little color on demand and what you're seeing from a regional perspective as well.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Yeah. We have three different businesses underneath Filtration. One's food and beverage. We have also a business focused on the industrial filtration side, the third one is our residential commercial filtration, where these two acquisitions fit. The residential commercial has been relatively steady. It's a global business, and it's been growing in the low to mid-single digits for the last year or so. We've had a little bit of volatility, as we mentioned earlier, on some projects on the food and beverage side. We expect those to be behind us at the end of Q1. Don't want to continue to use those as an excuse, but we went out and really de-backlogged our large projects on the food and beverage side and really moved more to a component strategy, which has also been a big lift to the margins of Filtration Solutions overall.

Once we get through Q1, we have that year-over-year impact behind us, and then we're moving forward.

Brett Lindzey
Equity Research Analyst, Vertical Corp Research Partners

Okay, great. I'll pass it along.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Thank you.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Brian Lee with Goldman Sachs.

Rebecca Gordon
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, good morning. This is Rebecca on for Brian. Just following up on those Filtration margins that picked up this quarter. Was wondering how much of that was shifting away from the lower margin products, versus if price helped at all, and then how we should think about this trend for 2019.

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Yeah, sure. Price has a smaller impact in the Filtration business overall. As John just talked about those three businesses, price, you really see that just in the residential commercial side of the business. It's less about price. It is about the mix as you reference, and then also just core productivity in the segment as they have opportunities to get after some of the lower productivity and lower margin businesses and improve that. It's less price and more productivity and mix.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Yeah. Sequentially, we would expect the performance this year to roll into next year. Obviously, the year-over-year impact will start to shrink as we realize that benefit of the mix in 2018.

Rebecca Gordon
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thanks. Then ,just following up on that question about the e-commerce channel, can you provide a little more color on your strategy heading into 2018 in terms of the dealer channels? How much wholesale change do you expect for Filtration in the U.S., and how you're straddling any potential customer channel conflicts?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Yeah. We're after the end consumer, and we believe by being closer to the end consumer, we can bring those leads back to not only the acquisitions that we're looking at closing, again, we need the regulatory approval to close them. Also those leads can be also served by our independent dealer channel. I think it gives us an opportunity to give to the customer the right solution that they're looking for. That's where we're going with the e-commerce platform, is to make sure we've got a targeted solution by zip code that meets a consumer's needs, ultimately bringing the right solution through all of our channels to that consumer. We'll continue to build that out over time, we'll share more information when it's available.

Rebecca Gordon
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, thanks. I'll pass it on.

Operator

Your next question comes from Damian Karas with UBS.

Damian Karas
Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Hi. Good morning, everyone.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Good morning.

Damian Karas
Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

In Aquatics, could you elaborate a bit on your outlook for the 5%-7% core growth there? I think you still have some solid price that's carrying over from the September increase. Could you maybe just talk a little bit about the drivers there, and how much recent growth investments are expected to contribute in 2019?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Sure. You're right, Aquatics is our strongest segment from a price perspective. Price certainly makes up a big chunk of the core sales growth for Aquatics. The remainder coming from volume, and I mentioned in earlier questions around the impact of the pull-in, thinking of 1%-2% impact overall for the business, and a lot of that coming from the Aquatics business. That's factored into the way we think about our volume assumption for the year.

Damian Karas
Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Okay. I wanted to ask you about China. Obviously, it's been a key strategic focus area for you. Could you maybe give an update on how the region performed in the quarter, and what kind of growth expectations you have for China and Southeast Asia for 2019?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Yeah. Again, it's less than 4% of our revenue. I'm not apologizing for that, it's just why it's going to be a strategic growth investment and why we need to get behind it and grow it at a much faster rate. 2018 was a really solid year from repositioning. We were able to get four or five new products launched here in the back half of the year, and through the Ministry of Health approvals in China. We also were able to make some pretty bold moves through our distributor channel and move more direct, so that we can participate in the e-commerce platforms in China. I think we repositioned and did all that in 2018. We were lower on the growth side in Q4, probably closer to low single digits. As we head forward, we're expecting double-digit growth in 2019 to continue.

And we would be very disappointed if we weren't closer to 15%-20%, because again, we're starting from a relatively low base.

Damian Karas
Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Right. Makes sense. Thank you very much.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Julian Mitchell with Barclays.

Speaker 14

Hi, it's Jason on for Julian. Just one quick question on the pricing tailwind, that three points expected in 2019. Would the correct way to think about this be since a portion of it is contingent upon offsetting a 25% re-rating of tariffs

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

No

Speaker 14

If that never happens, the pricing could come in a little bit lower, as not all of that would be necessary to offset the rest of the inflation? Is that 3% sort of locked in, and you would just see the inflation side of the equation come down, and you would just enjoy a nice net tailwind from that?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Well, first of all, just in terms of determining price, as I said, the majority of that is from actions that have already been taken, and then some that will still to be taken. It's not going to be dependent on what happens with the status of the List 3, moving from 10% to 25%. How that all ultimately shakes out, if and when that changes or who knows what else may happen with respect to tariffs, that's yet to be seen. So right now, our guidance is based on the assumptions that I talked about earlier. We wouldn't expect that to change.

Speaker 14

Definitely. Just a quick one on the core sales guidance and Filtration Solutions. You've given a lot of helpful color around Q4 and the Q1 trajectory. Just given the wide range of outcomes that seem to be embedded in that 1%-4%, could you kind of just talk to what it would take, maybe in terms of the underlying demand environment, to get closer to that 3%-4% on the high end organic sales guidance, and how that sort of differs from the Q1 environment right now?

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Yeah. I think it's a good catch. It is our most global business. We have a wider range on Filtration Solutions because we do have more than half of our revenue coming from outside the United States. We see that the U.S. economy remains strong, and we feel like there's no real reason why we see slowdown in Europe right now. As we mentioned earlier, we do see some volatility in China. So, I think the range is there because of its global aspects. Also some of the industries that they're serving, food and beverage and also the industrial investments being tied somewhat to just industrial and oil and gas. Again, there's more volatility in those spaces. We just included a wider range to capture that.

Speaker 14

Understood. Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from Joseph Aiken with William Blair.

Joseph Aiken
Investment Banking Associate, William Blair

Hi, good morning. Just had a quick question looking at our model. Do you have any expectations for gross margin, at least directionally, in 2019?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Yeah, no. I'd say we talked about the segment income margin assumptions, and we wouldn't go beyond that and talk about the gross margin assumptions.

Joseph Aiken
Investment Banking Associate, William Blair

Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Walter Liptak with Seaport Global.

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Global

Hi. Thanks. Good morning. Good year, guys. Wanted to ask about, sticking with this price situation. It sounds like you've got most of the price cost covered for this year. How would things play out if inflation reignites? What would be the timing on price increases? Did you learn anything last year that might help you with price in 2019?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

Sure. We'll continue to monitor the inflationary environment. We feel like what we've got reflected in our outlook is certainly based on what we see the landscape looks like, and our pricing actions are in place. We're going to remain nimble, but right now we think we've got the right assumptions built into our expectations.

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Global

Right. Okay. I wanted to ask, the pools business. I think if I recall, last year you were kind to your pool installers in not jamming them with a price increase. I wonder, how was the price increase? How was it accepted so far? You said there was a little bit of pull forward, but predominantly, is this something that you expect to see flow through, or are you getting pushback on some of the price?

Mark Borin
EVP and CFO, Pentair

The comments last year on the timing of the price increase was really related to the pool season and the hesitancy to do an early price increase that would have put a price increase in the middle of the pool season. That's disruptive to the dealers and installers. But a timed price increase that coincides with the pool season is what we talked about, and we don't get pushback from our distributor or dealer channel as a result of that. There hasn't been any blowback because of that.

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Global

Okay, great. Okay. All right. Thank you.

Operator

There are no questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to our presenters for any closing remarks.

John Stauch
President and CEO, Pentair

Thank you for joining us today, and I hope you agree that we had a solid 2018 as we demonstrated our ability to use agility and prioritization to meet our commitments. By building up a track record of meeting and exceeding commitments, we hope to earn the trust and right to pursue a compounding growth strategy that allows us to not only achieve core growth in earnings, but to also utilize our strong cash flow and capital structure to pursue strategic, targeted, and accretive bolt-on and tuck-on acquisitions, such as the two we announced a few weeks ago and discussed on today's call. Thank you for your continued interest. Kathy, you can conclude the call.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.