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Earnings Call: Q4 2022

Feb 23, 2023

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Plus Therapeutics Q4 and full year 2022 results conference call. Before we begin, we want to advise you that over the course of the call and question and answer session, forward-looking statements will be made regarding events, trends, business prospects, and financial performance, which may affect Plus Therapeutics' future operating results and financial position. All such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, including the risks and uncertainties described under the Risk Factors section included in Plus Therapeutics' Annual Report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission from time to time. Plus Therapeutics advises you to review these risk factors in considering such statements. Plus Therapeutics assumes no responsibility to update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect events, trends, or circumstances after the date that they are made.

It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Dr. Marc Hedrick, Plus Therapeutics President and Chief Executive Officer. Sir, you may begin.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Thank you, Andrea. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you once again for taking the time to join us today as we provide an overview of recent business highlights and discuss our 2022 Q4 financial results. Joining me for the call today is Dr. Norman LaFrance, our Chief Medical Officer, and Mr. Andrew Sims, our Chief Financial Officer. I'll begin the call by reviewing 2022 and then turn to Andrew to review our financials. Dr. LaFrance will be joining us for Q&A. At a high level, I was extremely pleased with our accomplishments in 2022. Going into the year, we set for ourselves some significant development goals. We achieved or exceeded almost all of them. At the same time, we continued a very conservative approach to managing our balance sheet, ending the year with a similar cash level to the prior year.

We materially expanded our availability of cash, as Andrew will discuss. Let me begin by focusing on drug development, clinical regulatory activities, and related milestones. First, I ask that you wind the clock back over a year and recall that we ended 2021 with a single drug, which was 186RNL, active in only a single phase I clinical development program for recurrent glioblastoma, funded in large part by the NIH. That was, in essence, the whole of our active clinical development program at that time. That was a year ago. Fast-forward to the end of 2022. We ended the year with two investigational drug candidates, Rhenium-186 obisbemeda, formerly called 186RNL, and Rhenium 188 bioabsorbable alginate microspheres, or 188RNL-BAM, as we call it.

Regarding our investigational drug rhenium-186 obisbemeda or rhenium obisbemeda, we have two active clinical programs now ongoing, one for recurrent GBM and the other for leptomeningeal cancer. In terms of glioblastoma in 2022, we substantially expanded this program. Specifically, we advanced from phase I to phase II. We are continuing the dose escalation for larger tumors and higher dose volumes. We manufactured GMP drug, allowing us to move into phase II. We enrolled the first patient in the phase II trial, and we negotiated with FDA to continue the phase I dose expansion for larger tumors and now have an active retreatment protocol with FDA to explore retreating patients that happen to recur after a first treatment.

For leptomeningeal disease, we moved this program to essentially a co-lead program with GBM. Specifically, we advanced that program successfully from preclinical stage to an enrolling phase I. We obtained $17.6 million in funding for this program that in combination with Plus' one-third match as required by CPRIT, the grant awarder, that should be sufficient to fund this program through phase II and the enrollment of approximately 150 patients. For pediatric brain cancer, while we did not initiate this trial in the calendar year because of the discussions with the FDA that were required for this first in pediatric patient radiopharmaceutical trial, we did make significant progress.

Specifically, after 3 rounds of FDA interactions on the nature of the IND for pediatric brain cancers, FDA reviewers have accepted our clinical protocol design, still require and request some additional adult data, which we plan to submit relatively soon. Our second drug, 188RNL-BAM, was in-licensed in early 2022 from academia. During 2022, we successfully transferred that technology to Plus, successfully manufactured that drug internally last year. We used that drug to successfully in a human organ ex vivo perfusion model, confirming the preclinical feasibility and the manufacturing of that drug. We submitted a pre-IND information package to the FDA. Big picture, in terms of milestones achieved, 2022 was a transformative year in the company's development.

In 2022, we presented important data readouts in our two lead clinical programs, GBM and leptomeningeal metastases. First, in November 2022, results from the company's phase I ReSPECT-GBM trial for recurrent glioblastoma was presented at SNO, the Society for Neuro-Oncology meeting in Florida by the trial PI. In the phase I dose escalation trial, at that time, 24 patients with recurrent GBM across seven cohorts received a single dose of rhenium obisbemeda administered in the dose escalation phase, achieving up to 740 gray to the tumor. That's compared on average to about 35 gray total absorbed radiation dose delivered to tumors using external beam radiation. The data in our trial showed that rhenium obisbemeda can be safely administered, and there's a statistically significant correlation between overall survival and both absorbed radiation dose to the tumor and percent tumor volume in the treated volume.

The strength of this signal is unusually positive for a phase I trial. We found that specifically for every 100 gray increase in the absorbed dose correlated, every increase in the absorbed dose, that correlated with about a 36% decrease in the risk of death. The more radiation to the tumor, the lower the risk of death. Also in every 1% increase in the tumor volume treated, up to a max of 100% obviously, that is associated with the 4.5% decrease in the risk of death, and that was highly statistically significant. There were no dose-limiting toxicities reported, and the overall safety profile was very favorable.

The study concluded that a single administration of rhenium obisbemeda by convection-enhanced delivery in recurrent glioma patients with poor prognosis is feasible, safe, and potentially effective in increasing overall survival when a therapeutic dose of radiation is delivered to the tumor. In the latter cohorts, we were delivering a therapeutic dose in over 80% of the patients treated. Based on the data from the phase I trial in Q4 2022, we initiated a phase II dose expansion trial evaluating rhenium obisbemeda for the treatment of patients with recurrent GBM using our cohort six dose, which is 22.3 millicuries in 8.8 milliliters of injectate for small and medium-sized tumors, and that's essentially tumors that are about 20 CCs or less. This phase II will enroll up to an additional 31 patients with small to medium-sized tumors.

We intend to roll that trial in approximately 24 months or less. That trial continues to be supported by an award from the National Cancer Institute. While we have five sites authorized under the NIH, with the PI and the NIH, we plan to expand the number of trial sites beyond the authorized five to facilitate faster enrollment. The primary endpoint, as a reminder, is overall survival following single administration, which is an endpoint we agreed to with the FDA, and secondary endpoints will assess the safety, tolerability, objective response rate, partial response, SAEs, event-free survival, and progression-free survival at six months.

Also, as mentioned above, key focus areas of ongoing clinical investigation in the GBM development program will be further dose exploration by increasing the dose and also increasing the number of doses to patients who happen to recur after a single administration, and also to inform the design of future registrational trial. As discussed previously, the company and FDA agreed to hold future meetings as facilitated by our Orphan and Fast Track designations on the registrational trial design, including the use of external data to augment the control arm and speed enrollment in a potential pivotal. Now let me move on to our leptomeningeal metastases, or LM, development program. The LM trial is a multi-center phase I/2 dose escalation study of dose safety and efficacy of rhenium obisbemeda.

LM, as you may know, is a complication associated with advanced cancers that infiltrate the fluid-lined structures of the central nervous system, also called the leptomeninges. It so happens that the incidence of LM is growing with local and improved cancer care, there are no approved FDA therapies. There are about 120,000 patients per year that are affected with LM and is substantially underdiagnosed. Standard treatment includes external beam radiation therapy to the affected sites, potentially with chemotherapy given either orally, intravenously or often administered twice a week directly into the CSF space. Systemically administered therapies almost never work because of the blood-brain barrier, preventing access to the leptomeninges.

Going back again to the SNO Meeting back in November, we also presented the early phase I data from the ReSPECT-LM trial at that meeting that demonstrated that a single administration of rhenium obisbemeda was feasible, safe, and well-tolerated across the two dosages studied at that time in cohorts one and two with patients in that trial, after treatment showing a decreased CSF tumor cell count by 48 hours following treatment that was between 46%-90% in terms of reduction of the tumor cell count that was measured in the CSF. The $17.6 million product development research funding award we received from the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas, or CPRIT, began funding in the Q4 of 2022.

As mentioned, this award will cover the majority of the development costs, including funding for up to 150 enrolled patients for the LM program over three years. That's an important source of non-dilutive funding that materially strengthens the company's balance sheet. In early 2023, we completed enrollment in cohort two of the LM trial. Now six patients have been treated. Regarding next steps with that trial, following the DSMB, the Data Safety Monitoring Board review, which is anticipated to be in March, we anticipate that we'll complete enrollment in part A of the phase I portion soon, perhaps in the next quarter, and that will be 9 patients total.

Thereafter, we plan a meeting with the FDA to determine the exact dose expansion plans for the phase I part B trial. We expect to initiate that part B trial in the H2 of 2023. We also expect initial data from the phase I part A to be presented also in the H2 of 2023. As I mentioned on our third-quarter 2022 call in November, we have made and are making significant progress in building a more resilient and robust GMP supply chain through our strategic partnerships that enable the development, manufacture, and even future potential commercialization of our products.

Our current supply chain and key partners are positioned to supply cGMP rhenium obisbemeda for any ongoing and planned phase II/III clinical trials in patients with GBM, LM, or pediatric brain cancer. That's now fully in place as of the end of last year. In pediatric brain cancer, based on extensive previously, we expect to submit an updated investigational new drug application for what will be called the ReSPECT-PBC phase I safety dose finding and efficacy study of rhenium obisbemeda for pediatric brain tumors. It will be submitted in conjunction with our lead academic institution, Lurie Children's Hospital at Northwestern University in Chicago. Finally, regarding our novel, recently in-licensed radioembolic microparticle technology, 188RNL-BAM, we successfully two objectives.

Furthermore, based on the FDA feedback regarding the most appropriate regulatory designation for the investigational product, specifically, whether it should be a drug or device in terms of its regulatory path. We are pursuing the request for designation process to define this in parallel to performing required developmental activities, regardless of whatever the ultimate regulatory designation ultimately is. It's our view that, despite the fact that the competing legacy products that are on the market, which are permanently indwelling radioembolic products that have been in the market for, in some cases over two decades, the bioresorbable nature of our RNL-BAM supports its ultimate designation as a drug. Nonetheless, we'll collaborate with the FDA to seek their ultimate guidance on this determination and proceed in parallel with those development activities that we can reasonably do irrespective of the ultimate regulatory determination.

The company plans, as mentioned previously on other calls, to initially focus on developing the BAM technology as a next-generation bioresorbable radioembolic therapy for, at first, liver cancer. With that summary, I'll turn the floor over to our Chief Financial Officer, Andrew Sims, who will review the financials. Andrew?

Andrew Sims
CFO, Plus Therapeutics

Thank you, Marc. Good afternoon, everyone. Please refer to our press release issued earlier today for a summary of our financial results for the 2022 Q4 and full year ended December 31, 2022. As of December 31, 2022, cash and cash equivalents were $18.1 million compared to $18.4 million as of December 31, 2021. The company believes the combination of current cash, committed grant funding in conjunction with existing discretionary capital sources secures our cash runway through 2025. Cash used in operations for full year 2022 was $13 million compared to $10.3 million for full year 2021. During the Q4 of 2022, the company received its first CPRIT grant funds of approximately $1.9 million as planned.

The main year-over-year changes between full year 2022 and full year 2021 are as follows: grant revenue of $224,000 was reported, related entirely to CPRIT. Total operating expenses for full year 2022 were $19.9 million compared to $12.5 million for the prior year. The 2022 total included two main areas of spend that were one-off in nature. The first area of increase was CMC spend related to the development of GMP quality drug and key regulatory consulting activities necessary to advance the phase II GBM clinical trial. These expenses were over $4 million in 2022. 2023 spend related to these activities is forecast to be less than $500,000. In addition, and to a lesser extent, the company had a forecasted increase in litigation and legal spend related to a legal settlement disclosed in Form 10-K.

The net result is that we expect an overall decrease in total burn in 2023 based on our currently disclosed milestones. Interest expense decreased from $932,000 for full year 2021 to $711,000 for full year 2022. This decrease reflects the continued principal pay down that commenced in November of 2021 on the company's Oxford debt.

Net loss of full year 2022 was $20.3 million or $0.77 per share, compared to a net loss of $13.4 million or $1.11 per share for full year 2021. I'll turn it back to Marc.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Thank you, Andrew. Before we move on to Q&A, allow me to provide a very detailed guidance on anticipated milestones for 2023. First of all, we intend to expand the glioblastoma clinical trial sites and make meaningful enrollment progress of the ReSPECT-GBM phase II trial to support a target completion of enrollment date by the end of the year 2024. We also plan to publish the ReSPECT Phase data in a high-impact factor peer-reviewed journal. We also plan to present clinical safety and efficacy data of the phase I and phase II ReSPECT-GBM trials in the H2 of 2023. In terms of LM, leptomeningeal metastases, our plan is to complete enrollment in the phase I part A of the ReSPECT-LM trial and begin enrollment in the phase I part B.

We also intend in the ReSPECT-LM trial to expand the number of clinical trial sites to support that expansion into Part B of that phase I. In the H2 of 2023, we'll present clinical safety and efficacy data based on the phase I Part A of the ReSPECT-LM trial. As per the CPRIT grant, we will explore potentially synergistic drug combination studies of locally delivered rhenium obisbemeda coupled with promising systemic therapies in relevant preclinical models of leptomeningeal disease. We also will initiate the IND to treat pediatric patients with ependymoma and high-grade glioma and begin enrollment. The first clinical trial site should be Northwestern in the Lurie Children's Hospital. In conjunction with the FDA, we intend to finalize the regulatory designation for the 188 RNL-BAM technology and complete key developmental activities this year.

We think in 2023, there are opportunities to execute corporate partnerships to expand the business opportunities for Plus's unique CNS oncology platform. Finally, building on our success with CPRIT, we intend to submit multiple grants to raise non-dilutive capital to support expansion of the company's drug development pipeline. With that behind us, let me turn this back over to Andrea for the Q&A session. Andrea?

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Justin Walsh with JonesTrading. Please go ahead.

Justin Walsh
VP and Research Analyst, JonesTrading

Hi. Congrats on the progress. Thanks for taking the questions. To start, I was wondering if you could maybe provide some more color on what we can expect in the upcoming data readouts you just mentioned. For ReSPECT-GBM, I'm curious about any patient data we haven't seen from the phase I/II A portion as well as what we might see from the phase II B portion and likewise for ReSPECT-LM.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Hey, Justin, it's Marc. Obviously, we'll, you know, we'll present what data we can to you, but. I'll let Norman take that question because he's up to his shoulders in evaluating that data. Norman?

Norman LaFrance
CMO, Plus Therapeutics

Yeah. Thanks, Marc. Great question, Justin. As you've seen over the past, say, years, we've developed progressive statistical evaluation models starting with the KM gray and less than 100 gray, which was based on the preclinical, I'll call it point, where there's clear efficacy from that absorbed dose. We, we know that radiation works and more radiation is better those two cohorts. And by comparison, it was roughly a two year OS versus a five month OS for our specific data. We added to those evaluations, and these were presented at you know, at medical meetings and peer-accepted presentations, one on the Cox proportional hazards model, which, you know, is a, it's a survival model in statistics that uses all the data.

Instead of the cutoff of 100 gray, which as I said, was supported both by what is known with radiation absorbed dose in general and was supported by our specific preclinical data, instead, we presented the totality of our data with that Cox model, and showed, which we reported in several meetings, of an improved survival percentage.

We used the increment of 100 gray. Marc mentioned that with a greater than 40%, closer to 45%, improvement in survival for each additional 100 gray in absorbed dose and a comparable survival that was, you know, 3% or 4% for each 1% in covered tumor treatment. We expanded that model because of the it doesn't correct for all the covariant parametric types of bias you might get with what is called the accelerated failure time model. That showed consistent and actually better statistically significant. The Cox model was, you know, 0.003 values for both, whereas the AFT model showed a 0.00...

These were all on our data without, you know, in its totality, without any differentiation of cutoff as we did with the initial leptomeningeal, excuse me, Kaplan-Meier 100 gray cutoff. We'll continue to analyze these. The phase II trial that we started will build on these data. We have analyses that we'll present probably in our publication that is in draft now and for a major publication on phase I on what this means on the predictability of phase II. We'll probably present that also at a future ASCO or SNO ASCO meeting in the summer and certainly for the SNO meeting in Q4. you know, I'm very happy.

In a separate call, we can't get into the statistics in great detail, but if there's any interest in really digging into that, just let us know, and I'll be happy to spend some time with you.

Justin Walsh
VP and Research Analyst, JonesTrading

Got it. You mentioned all the presentations you guys have been going to at different scientific meetings. I'm curious what some of the reception to the data is that you've pre-presented so far. Obviously, the PI is quite enthusiastic about this. How's the community received?

Norman LaFrance
CMO, Plus Therapeutics

Yeah, I'm glad you asked that because for me to bring it up maybe is not as humble as we should be. You know, not to be a wise guy, you know, I think you should ask some of the KOLs out there what they think. What they tell us unprompted is that this is surprising data for such an early program, they've not seen it in, you know, in typical therapeutic programs. Now, part of my answer to them, some of them know me, is this is a radiopharmaceutical, it's not uncommon early in a program to get a very good sense on how it's gonna work, because the mechanism of action, first of all, is, you know, well known. It's well accepted. Energy transfer to the tumor is efficacious and more is better.

We've, you know, we have the delivery problem, solved for both the GBM and LM, so that's very effective, as has been presented and as you're well aware. We've shown that the increasing doses were, you know, we've done during the dose escalation remain, very well tolerated and quite, you know, in a sense, predictable because we're not using exhaustive doses or, extremely high doses. They've all been well tolerated without any observed DLTs or, you know, limiting doses or maximum tolerated doses observed or identified. We're on very solid ground for a very good therapeutic index. The safety margin is very comforting and robust, and people have recognized this.

In fact, many times we'll get unsolicited requests for interest in our programs because they've seen seen our presentations at one of the several meetings we've participated in. Last but not least is what we all know for both LM and GBM, but particularly LM, you know, there's nothing out there for these folks. There's, you know, there's no therapies. Nothing works. There's not really very many investigative programs. LM is really a waistline of options for patients, unfortunately, and people are recognizing that this is something there. Then GBM, the data speaks for itself, and you really can't ignore that preliminary signal at all.

I think when we can report, hopefully an acceptance in a major impact journal that Marc mentioned, you know, there'll be further recognition on this preliminary data. Thanks for that question.

Justin Walsh
VP and Research Analyst, JonesTrading

Got it. Maybe this next one for Marc and kind of builds on what you were saying about some of the interest you guys have been getting. I'm sure you can't speak to specific potential partners, but I'm wondering if you can shed any light on the types of conversations you're having or would like to be having, or are they primarily related to potential combination therapies or other types of opportunities?

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Hey, Justin. I would like to, you know, we've done three transactions over the last, like one transaction a year, as we've worked to expand the pipeline and build it out. You know, there's, they're kind of across the board, quite honestly. We're very promiscuous in terms of discussing and evaluating ways we can build value for shareholders, whether that's out-licensing or in-licensing. We just continue to expand those discussions, and as the data gets out there, the things that Norman presented, those get more and more notoriety. It increases the number of discussions. It's gonna be really hard to say much about that at this point, all the, except that the conversations are increasing, not decreasing.

Justin Walsh
VP and Research Analyst, JonesTrading

Got it. One more for me, just sort of speaking to the general tones here. It seems to me like we're at another inflection point in the radiotherapeutic field with the significant increase in the use of-targeted radiopharmaceuticals in prostate cancer. I'm wondering if you guys have seen any change in the tone or content of discussion you've been having as the commercial potential of some of these radiotherapeutics has come even more into focus.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Yeah, you know, I may let the doctor comment scientifically. He's been doing this for a year or two and knows a lot about the space and has seen it evolve. Probably has more drugs approved under his watch than anybody in the country in terms of radiotherapeutic space. You know, starting, you know, maybe early 2021, and Justin, you know this, 'cause you know the space well. We're seeing banks increasingly add analysts that are dedicated to radiotherapeutics. That's an important, I think an important milestone. There's bank coverage, there's analyst coverage. There's capital flows into the space. There's manufacturing infrastructure that's being funded and built out in anticipation of the market coming.

you see major players doing deals in the space. we'd see a lot of really promising movements in the capital markets that are pointing to, you know, years ahead of us of growing value in this space. we could not be more excited to be here at the ground floor. one thing that's different about us, I think you know, Justin, is we have real data. we have a lot of companies that, you know, are building infrastructure, but we're, you know, we're building a data profile that I think is very exciting and in a group of diseases that don't have good options. yeah, we're very optimistic and bullish. Doc, you wanna.

Norman LaFrance
CMO, Plus Therapeutics

Yeah.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Elaborate?

Norman LaFrance
CMO, Plus Therapeutics

I think what you're asking, you're mentioning, you know, the PSMA space, which is very crowded. It's been successful, a recent approval. There's several out there. As you well know, before that was the, you know, somatostatin receptor, the Dotatate approval, which has been successful. Quite frankly, in the literature, in the meetings, that's, you know, that's what's been talked about, understandably, and they've earned that with some good data and some good results.

All due humility, I'd like to add that when we presented at the European Association of Nuclear Medicine, you may know this, that they have a highlights presentation at the beginning of the meeting to present what they, you know, the reviewers and the leadership of that society feel are the up and comers or the new data, things to pay attention to. Our GBM data presentation there, which I did, was chosen for the highlights lecture as the first presentation. Now, admittedly, there was a PSMA paper and a dotatate paper and so forth, consistent with what they've been doing over the last years, and those products are getting, you know, getting the attention they should get. It was very, I think, rewarding and very appreciated by us.

In fact, the folks came up to me afterwards and got a picture for posterity in the sense of noting that this was, this is quite an advance that they recognized, a definite radiopharmaceutical that rather than the classic systemically administered using some elegant biochemistry or targeting mechanism, which is, you know, which is elegant on something that's, you know, very straightforward and had some very incredible data that they pointed to very carefully. We've made the highlight lectures, and I think this is recognition by the field that there are other, you know, other candidates out there that are gonna make a difference.

Justin Walsh
VP and Research Analyst, JonesTrading

I look forward to seeing the continued building of this data set, and thanks for taking the questions.

Norman LaFrance
CMO, Plus Therapeutics

Thank you, Justin.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ed Woo with Ascendiant Capital. Please go ahead.

Ed Woo
Director of Research and Senior Analyst, Ascendiant Capital Markets

Yeah. Congratulations on the progress in 2022. Definitely congratulations on the CPRIT grant. Is there any possibility or visibility that you'll be able to apply for the grants for any other indication?

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Hey, Ed. Thank you for the question. I think you mean the LM CPRIT grant. Are we gonna be able to apply that to other indications?

Ed Woo
Director of Research and Senior Analyst, Ascendiant Capital Markets

No. I mean, in terms of getting grants for other indications, completely new grants.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Got it. Got it. Yeah, no. Thanks. Appreciate the question. You know, we've been successful, knock on wood, in getting third-party grant support in terms of the NCI grant and the CPRIT grant. One of the reasons we moved to Texas, easy to say now that we have a grant under our under our sleeve, but was that we thought that $6 billion of capital for cancer funding, we might be able to get some of that to fund our programs. Lo and behold, that we were fortunate to be able to do that. We know of companies that have up to three CPRIT grants.

We do in fact think that some of our programs that aren't funded or aspirational programs that we'd like to bring on board, but because of our internal frugality about capital deployment, in other words, we don't want to spend it until we raise it, that there might be some opportunities there. Our plan and that was a milestone this year, is we're going to submit more than 1 grant, including the CPRIT, but also potentially other grants that some of the opportunities that we have available to us to fund additional programs to build out the pipeline. That's a goal.

You know, those can be hard to get. We're gonna submit them. We think we sort of cracked the code to a degree on CPRIT. We think there might be some greater opportunities ahead of us there.

Ed Woo
Director of Research and Senior Analyst, Ascendiant Capital Markets

What was the timing in terms of when you submitted your application to when you got, you know, awarded the grant?

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

For CPRIT? The LM grant?

Ed Woo
Director of Research and Senior Analyst, Ascendiant Capital Markets

Yes.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Actually, yeah. Actually, it was, I think about 18 months. We submitted a couple of iterations. We got close a couple of times and, like with the NIH feedback, how you can improve the grant. We worked in the background to continue to advance the program while we were continuing those dialogues. You know, I think that treating a patient in LM really helped convince them and the data really helped convince them that this is something that's worth funding. Yeah, it's like all the grants. It's typically sort of iterative. Key is being persistent.

Ed Woo
Director of Research and Senior Analyst, Ascendiant Capital Markets

Having data.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Yeah, data helps. That's right.

Ed Woo
Director of Research and Senior Analyst, Ascendiant Capital Markets

Well, definitely, congratulations and definitely looking forward to more good news from you guys this year. Thank you.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Thank you, Ed.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Sean Lee with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Sean Lee
Vice President of Equity Research, HC Wainwright

Good afternoon, guys, thanks for taking my questions. My first question is on the phase II GBM study. Can we expect the data readouts from that prior to full patient enrollment expected by the end of 2024?

Norman LaFrance
CMO, Plus Therapeutics

It's an open label non-blinded study, so the short answer would be yes. To give you more details, it'll be, you know, as I think I was answering Justin's questions on the types of statistical analyses, I would expect us to have some reviews of the different types of analyses just because there's lots of ways to utilize those to form the design of a registrational trial. I'd like to give you more detail, but the, you know, the short answer is yes, and it'll, and it'll depend on how the data develops. If we can certainly accelerate the accrual, you know, even faster, we'll be in a position to move on that more quickly. Part of that will be on our preparation to go to FDA. We plan to share that.

I can't give you exact timing, however.

Sean Lee
Vice President of Equity Research, HC Wainwright

Okay. No issues. Thanks for the additional color. My second question is on the upcoming pediatric study. What are some of the key learnings and takeaways from the GBM trial that you feel could help you apply to the pediatric study and make it more successful?

Norman LaFrance
CMO, Plus Therapeutics

Yeah. It, great question, very, very applicable. We actually leveraged the pediatric questions and presentations to the FDA. We leveraged our adult data significantly. That in fact resulted in the FDA asking, you know, not asking questions, but more clarifications on that data, which is a good thing because it gets them more involved in that data. The first interactions with FDA was to kind of include all comers in pediatric brain tumors, which is a broad spectrum, and first in pediatric patients for any drug, particularly a radiopharmaceutical, FDA is careful and conservative. We got that feedback. For example, we're limiting the tumors to supratentorial and the ones with high unmet medical need with terrible prognosis, the ependymomas and the high-grade gliomas.

We've had most recently with FDA agreement by the reviewers for the pediatric protocol and just owe them some last clarifications they have on some of the adult data which is straightforward we have, and it's just a reanalysis and shows their interest in the adult data which we'll be able to leverage for future adult considerations. You know, Marc, do you have anything else to add on this?

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Well, just one thing I would add to that, Sean, is we mentioned this before in the adult trial, delivery is the key. If we can cover the tumor with enough radiation, we're gonna kill the tumor, period. Sort of end of discussion. We translated that data directly into the pediatric population, I think that really gives us confidence going that trial that we can deliver the drug. The other thing is, it's very common to put electrodes into the brain in these kids. We have a high degree of confidence that the convection delivery process will be well tolerated.

We're really able to leverage both that, like, epilepsy treatment data as well as our adult delivery data to feel confident going into this trial. We're able to convey that successfully, I think, to the FDA, given the fact that the clinical protocol.

Sean Lee
Vice President of Equity Research, HC Wainwright

Thank you for that. That was very helpful. My last question is on the BAM product. I know it might be a little early, but are there specific indications where you feel the product could be particularly well suited for?

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Yes. Our initial target is gonna be for hepatoma. There are two drugs on the market that are kinda long in the tooth. They're non-bio-resorbable. They're used to treat hepatoma. I think it's about a $1.2 billion opportunity. But those are permanent, and we're providing a drug that has different radiotherapeutic, different characteristics that are related to the rhenium that make it more attractive. It's resorbable. The idea is that you kinda tune the bio-resorption timing so that by the time the radiation is fully decayed or near fully decayed, the embolic has been bio-resorbed, vascular patency's resumed, and you can go back in and retreat the patient multiple times. That's the idea. This would be a very differentiated, unique, novel product.

Livers first. Potentially we could go any tumor that you can target via radioembolization or angiographic catheters potentially tolerate. Even things like potentially pancreatic cancer and other things, sarcomas that are difficult to treat or get to potentially would lend themselves to therapy. Liver is the I think our initial target as there's an existing market.

Sean Lee
Vice President of Equity Research, HC Wainwright

Great. Thanks, Marc. That's all the questions I have.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Thank you, Sean.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one, one on your telephone. Are there any written questions today?

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Hey, Andrea, we have one written question. I think the three other written questions that have been largely answered. This question revolves around our LM trial and the use of novel cell testing approach to determine biologic response. How is that important to your trial going forward and your development plans? Yeah, you're talking about, we use a interesting test called CNSide. It's manufactured by a California company. Thus far, I would say we're incredibly pleased with that test. I think it fills a critical gap in the diagnostic and therapeutic approach to these patients. The current existing way that LM is diagnosed is by a mix of imaging, and imaging's not great.

clinical findings, which are often very vague and nonspecific. The CSF lumbar puncture results, which look at glucose, protein, and cell count, which is the same thing that Norman and I used when we were in medical school, a year or two ago that is very nonspecific and very nonsensitive for that. You know, I think as I mentioned in the first four patients where we have data on, we have significant reduction tumor cell counts as measured by that assay. We're very, we're very pleased with what we've seen thus far, but it's very early. Another relevant piece of information is LM is significantly underdiagnosed. Only about 25% of patients with LM were diagnosed. We know that based on autopsy data.

There's an opportunity to increase the total addressable market of LM for our therapeutic by up to 4 times. That opens up a pretty significant increased application for the test. The other interesting thing is beyond just quantification of tumor cells, you can actually use that test potentially to tailor therapy. Although we don't use it for our trial, you can actually put in groups of antibodies and look at specific epitope expression, fluorescence in situ hybridization and genomic analysis as part of that test to tailor therapy in terms of using systemics and immunotherapy and so forth, which we're beginning to explore in our CPRIT grant.

That's a good question. We think it's gonna be very important long term to pair the therapeutic with a diagnostic like this, an innovative. I gotta think about it almost like a companion diagnostic. That's the only question that's unanswered. Andrea, anything else?

Operator

I'm not showing any further questions right now. Marc, if you'd like to close it out.

Marc Hedrick
President and CEO, Plus Therapeutics

Yeah. Thanks everyone for participating on the call today. Appreciate your interest in the company. Once again, thanks to our employees and the collaborating physicians and scientists that we work with on a daily basis. We're very appreciative also for the patients who enroll in this trial that need this help and trust us to deliver for them and their families, so we're very appreciative to them. We look forward to continuing the updating process and as we move forward. Thanks also to our stockholders for their continued support and confidence. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect.

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