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Earnings Call: Q4 2021

Mar 31, 2021

Speaker 1

Good day, and welcome to the PVH Q4 2020 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Dana Prowlman. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Speaker 2

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the PVH Corp. 4th Quarter and Full Year 2020 Earnings Conference Call. This webcast and conference call is being recorded on behalf of PVH and consists of copyrighted material. It may not be recorded, rebroadcast or otherwise transmitted without PVH's written permission.

Your participation in the question and answer session constitutes your consent to have anything you say appear in any transcript or replay of this call. The information to be discussed includes forward looking statements that reflect PVH's view as of March 30, 2021, of future events and financial performance. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties in the company's SEC filings and the Safe Harbor statement included in the press release that is the subject of this call. These risks and uncertainties include PVH's right to change its strategies, objectives, expectations and intentions and its need to use significant cash flow to service its debt obligations. Significantly at this time, the COVID-nineteen pandemic continues to have a significant impact on the company's business, financial condition, cash flow and results of operations.

There is significant uncertainty about the duration and extent of the impact of the pandemic. The dynamic nature of the circumstances means what is said on this call could change materially at any time. Therefore, the operation of the company's business and its future results of operations could differ materially from historical practices and results or current descriptions, estimates and suggestions. PDH does not undertake any obligation to update publicly any forward looking statement, including without limitation any estimates or suggestions regarding revenue or earnings. Generally, the financial information and projections to be discussed will be on a non GAAP basis as defined under SEC rules.

Reconciliations to GAAP amounts are included in PBH's 4th quarter 2020 earnings release, which can be found on www.pvh.com and in the company's report on Form 8 ks furnished to the SEC in connection with the release. At this time, I'm pleased to turn the conference over to Mr. Stefan Larsen, CEO of PVH.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Anna, and good morning, everyone. Joining me on the call today are Mike Schafer, our COO and CFO and Dana Perlman, our EVP, Chief Strategy Officer and Treasurer. It's a true pleasure to be leading the call this morning and an honor to lead this great company as we drive towards an accelerated recovery from the COVID-nineteen pandemic and at the same time start to build our next growth chapter to win in the new normal. Pre COVID, there was already an unprecedented amount of change taking place in the apparel industry, driven mostly by technology and the consumer, which the pandemic only accelerated. The new normal will not be a static state, rather an ever increasing rate of change that we will be ready to compete and win in.

2020 will be remembered as one of the most challenging moments for our industry from a geopolitical, economic and public health perspective due to the pandemic. Our teams not only came together to successfully navigate the crisis, we also positioned PVH to emerge in a stronger position. I would like to thank all our associates for their hard work, resilience and ability to rise up to any challenge we have encountered, in particular, our dedicated retail store and distribution center associates who have managed to keep our business running throughout the toughest of COVID times. Before the pandemic hit, I was fortunate to spend time traveling and visiting many of our teams and partners around the world. I saw firsthand many of the underlying all in an effort to drive sustainable, profitable growth.

Our focus is on winning with the consumer, driving brand relevance, taking profitable market share and building further strength in our platform capabilities and over time to do that more efficiently. To accomplish this, we will work with a strong consumer focus, become even more demand and data driven and create value in a systematic repeatable way where we will continuously learn and improve. We have taken this time to proactively evolve our business with special focus on capturing where the consumer is going. We have been accelerating our digital businesses and reallocating additional resources to drive growth in this highly important channel. We also continue to shift our product towards the comfort and casual categories that are working with consumers today.

And lastly, we doubled down on our international businesses where we continue to see a very strong recovery and significant revenue opportunity for both Calvin and Tommy, while also contributing a higher operating margin. Our increased and sustained focus on these aspects of the business will drive long term revenue and margin growth for our shareholders, driven by gross margin expansion and SG and A leverage. And importantly, I will continue to live our strong corporate values, including our unwavering commitment to empower our people and help drive the fashion industry forward in sustainability and making a real and lasting positive impact within inclusion and diversity. I will now share some key insights on how we drove performance in the Q4 and in our Q1 of 2021 so far and how we are progressing towards an accelerated recovery. Mike will then share more financial details.

Even though our 4th quarter results faced greater than expected challenges due to virus resurgences and lockdowns throughout multiple regions. We were able to deliver on our expectations from a top line, gross margin and EBIT perspective. We focused our execution around our strategic priorities and drove an above plan performance for the holiday period. And we are pleased that we have successfully sold through our seasonal inventory, allowing us to enter spring 20 21 in a very clean inventory position. I'd like to share some proof points demonstrating our progress against the 3 value creating areas that we have shared with you previously.

1st, we continue to supercharge our e commerce channel. We are rapidly growing our overall digital penetration by both expanding our D2C digital business as well as deepening our strong relationships with 3rd party digital partners. Digital partners. Fiscal 2020

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represented our strongest

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ever digital sales performance, up over 40%, including nearly 70% growth on our own sites, and we doubled our penetration to close to 25% of total company revenue, all while driving a significant improvement in the channel's profitability. Looking ahead with robust new user growth, our most significant opportunity is to drive continued conversion and leverage our data capabilities to further engage, personalize and simplify the shopping experience. Secondly, we continue to increase our focus on driving product relevance across our brands and regions. Our teams have taken proactive measures to tighten and refocus assortments as well as rationalizing unproductive SKUs to improve overall sell through rates. We are optimizing our product development processes and leaning further into our key essentials and hero products, which is driving positive initial results, including generating higher average unit retail prices.

For Talend, we are building on our global leadership in underwear and intimates with hero products such as the modern cotton program while growing in casual categories, including denim, tees and sweatshirts. For Tommy, we are expanding on the brand's casual lifestyle through our hero products, supported by collaborations for each lifestyle, Tommy Hilfiger and Tommy Jeans. We also have a meaningful opportunity to further advance our supply chain capabilities and react faster as consumers' needs continue to change, resulting in shorter lead times that will benefit our overall margin structure. Thirdly, we are continuing to evaluate our cost structure in the context of our revolving revenue base. Over the summer, we announced the exit of our heritage brands retail business and a reduction of our North America workforce.

In addition, we will be executing on additional cost reduction efforts in certain international markets while also rightsizing our real estate footprint. We also see a notable opportunity to optimize our internal processes by further scaling our digital and data capabilities. As we realize the benefits from these strategic actions, we will over time enhance our overall profitability while allowing for investments in our strategic growth areas. While our regions are all in various stages of their recovery, These focus areas continue to guide our teams with clear objectives to operate against to drive an accelerated recovery. Turning to our regional update.

Let me start with Asia and specifically with China, which has emerged first in the recovery. We remain very pleased with our performance in the market, where D2C sales trends continue to positive with double digit growth in the Q4 and full year. The lack of travel and tourism continues to benefit local spending in the market. Our team has been successful in accelerating our performance through a number of initiatives, including the following: with superchargedecommerce, synced online and offline initiatives, driving conversion and sales growth in full price stores while online key events were taking place. We also leaned into our most successful or relevant cash flow categories and hero for both Tommy and Calvin, better matching inventory with demand, which drove higher full price filters and lower markdowns.

With respect to the Q1, we are pleased with our trends to date, highlighted by a very successful Chinese New Year, including very strong sell throughs of over 50% for our holiday capsule. We also generated strong performance during International Women's Day, generating nearly full sell throughs on exclusive SKUs, while modern crafts and gift sets sold out. In addition, we are currently experiencing encouraging consumer responses to our spring collections. Overall, while we have seen some virus related headwinds in certain parts of the region, specifically in Japan, we remain confident in our Asia region overall. Moving on to Europe.

Despite the much more aggressive lockdowns across the region during the Q4, our teams drove impressive execution, which continued to generate profitable market share gains, underscoring the strength in Tommy Hilfiger and Calvin Klein. Given the virus resurgence, 70% of our stores in Europe were temporary closed proportions of the quarter, which was significantly worse than what we had been planning when we spoke with you in early December. Still, we were able to navigate through this difficult time and gain market share through the following: driving the digital business, both on our owned and operated sites as well as with pure players, coupled with our CRM efforts, remained an important focus. This is especially important as many stores are closed, and we are very well positioned relative to the market. Total digital sales grew by over 60% for the 4th quarter with even stronger performance on our owned and operated sites.

Given temporary store closures, our investments in digital and omni channel capabilities enabled us to fully leverage our connected retail inventory to serve our digital demand. We also continue to win through products, where we saw great performance across both brands house footwear we are pleased with our newly in house footwear division, which represents a big long term opportunity for the brand new region. Future order book demand remains strong, with fall 2021 planned up high single digits versus the prior year and up significantly versus fall 2019, coming off strong double digit order books for spring 2021. It's important to note that our customers continue to take in spring 2021 goods despite extended lockdowns in certain markets. We also continue to invest in important growth areas.

And at the same time, we're also controlling discretionary spend and achieving cost efficiencies in Europe. Lastly, turning to North America. During the Q4, we showed strong growth in our digital business while capitalizing on better traffic trends in stores during the holiday period to sell through seasonal inventory. The absence of international tourism and some wholesale bankruptcies continue to challenge our North America business. As I shared with you on our last earnings call, we still have work to do in the region in order to pivot more towards domestic consumer and operate with the same strength as our international businesses.

However, we do see positive developments in the region. Digital remains an important driver of our results with sales on our own sites up 75%. Even with increased promotional activity from the competition and our tight overall inventory position, which partially offset additional headwinds in our stores from lockdowns in Canada. Similar to international trends, consumer continued to gravitate to key hero products in comfort, casual and athleisure categories for both Tong and cabin. Our 4th quarter marketing efforts continued to be focused to support our digital expansion.

We created an interactive virtual holiday theme shop on tami.com, which generated significant new consumer acquisition, while Chamlin leveraged its global assets and campaigns to reinforce brand relevancy and hero product affinity. Lastly, I'd like to welcome Trish Donnelly, who recently joined the PVH team in the newly created role of CEO of PVH Americas. Chris joined PVH following nearly 7 years with Urban Outfitters. As the Global CEO for Urban Outfitters, Chris successfully led the business to win with the younger consumer, rapidly scaled e commerce to an industry leading penetration while driving very strong connected retail and consumer engagement. We look forward to her leadership in unlocking the region's growth potential, where we see significant opportunity across consumer engagement, products and distribution.

Our teams continue to take a very thoughtful approach to managing our iconic brands, and I'd like to share a few brief global brand highlights, beginning with Calvin Klein. Global brand health remained strong at over 85% aided brand awareness with strong growth across our social channels. Responses to our spring 'twenty one campaign has been positive with growth in relevancy and consideration, continuing the momentum on Thee Stallion and Euphoria star Jacob Lourley. Megan Thee Stallion and Euphoria star Jacob Lohrley. In addition, the brand partnered with LA based PJ Lamb and launched a first of its kind content series with authentically engaged which authentically engaged new audience networks that was very positively received.

We are excited about the activations that we have planned. In the coming weeks, Calvin Klein will launch a global product collaboration, which will be an important first one with more to follow, where we use Calvin Klein's iconic brand and hero products as the canvas for creative exploration. Moving on to Tommy. Similar to Calvin, Tommy continues to generate strong global brand equity with increases across all key measures, including awareness, which reached 78%. In December, we launched Tommy's Dropshop, our newest platform for pop culture focused on limited edition releases, which has been received very well.

In addition, our Tommy Jeans and Zalando exclusive European brand campaign produced 64,000,000 views across multiple platforms and influencer channels with very strong double digit increases in brand consideration and purchase intent. We are pleased with the launch of our 1st circle of denim collection, a significant milestone in our forward fashion journey to build towards a more circular and inclusive fashion industry. In addition, we continue to build upon our strong Tommy team to bring our global brand vision to life, including welcoming our new Chief Marketing Officer. And finally, to our heritage business. Our heritage brands business continued to face challenges in the Q4.

The exit of our brick and mortar retail business remains on track to be completed over the next few months. We are focused on increasingly shifting towards casualization with a recent focus on outdoor activity. We are continuing to actively address the business challenges, managing inventory, lowering our cost base and reviewing additional ways to optimize and streamline the business. Before I hand it over to Mike, I would like to reiterate that the actions we are taking now will make PVH come out even stronger to compete within the new normal. As we plan and execute 2021, near term visibility is limited by virus uncertainty, especially within Europe, and control to drive the business forward, specifically intensifying our focus on our core strength and executing against our strategic priorities, including supercharging e commerce and leaning further to our product strength to drive revenue growth, pricing power and gross margin expansion.

Our international businesses are recovering faster than North America, and we are building on our strong performance in both Asia and Europe. We remain very confident in the recovery of these regions given the underlying strength and momentum of our brands, product and distribution and expect revenues to exceed pre pandemic levels in the first half year as we continue to take profitable market share. We are prudently planning our North America business given ongoing pressures from a lack of foreign tourism, which we do not expect to return in any meaningful way until the end of the year. In the meantime, we are actively focusing on further improving our execution with a local consumer, amplifying our digital efforts as well as rightsizing our brick and mortar footprint under the region's new leadership. As we further leverage the power of PVH, I'm confident that we will drive brand relevance, cost efficiencies and deliver long term sustainable growth while driving fashion forward for good.

We look forward to sharing details with you on the long term plan for PVH's next chapter of growth at our upcoming Investor Day later this year. And with that, I would like to hand it over to Maggie.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Stefan. Comments on about to make are based on non GAAP results and are reconciled in our press release. I'm going to begin by discussing 2020, then move on to 2021. Overall, revenues for the Q4 were down 20% as reported and down 23% on a constant currency basis compared to the prior year, and they were in line with our prior revenue guidance despite significantly more extensive lockdowns in Europe and Canada. When we released our Q3 earnings in early December, approximately 10% of our stores were closed in Europe and our guidance anticipated that those stores would reopen soon.

However, lockdowns in Europe were significantly more extensive than we expected. And as a result, approximately 70 percent of our stores in Europe were closed in the Q4. In addition, approximately 75% of our stores in Canada were closed during the quarter as a result of the virus resurgence. Our total direct to consumer business was down 20% versus the prior year, including a 60% increase in digital commerce. All regions and brand businesses continue experience strong digital growth and we continue to experience positive overall direct to consumer trends in China.

Our lack of international tourists coming to the U. S. Continues to challenge our North America brick and mortar retail business. Our wholesale revenue was down 19% versus the prior year, which included double digit growth in our sales to digital channels. Looking at our segments, Tommy Hilfiger revenues were down 16% as reported and 20% on a constant currency basis, with international down 10% as reported and 17% on a constant currency basis, which reflects the extensive lockdowns in Europe.

North America was down 28%. Calvin Klein revenue was down 17% as reported and 20 percent on a constant currency basis, with international down 10% as reported and down 16% on a constant currency basis, which also reflects the extensive lockdowns in Europe. North America was down 25%. Our heritage revenues were down 41%, which included a 17% decline resulting from the sale of our Speedo North America business. Loss per share was $0.38 on a GAAP basis for the 4th on a non GAAP basis for the 4th quarter, which reflected the negative impact of the COVID-nineteen pandemic on our business as well as an unplanned $0.13 negative impact due to the settlement of a multiyear tax audit.

Gross margin of 53.9% for the quarter was approximately flat to the prior year and in line with our expectations. Inventory is clean and ended the year down 12% compared to the prior year. We're carrying approximately $75,000,000 of basic inventory into spring 2021. That's a reduction compared to our prior projection approximately $100,000,000 Expenses for the quarter were 52.5 percent of revenue and favorable to our expectation of the mid-50s as we reduced discretionary spending to offset the impact of the store closures. We ended the full year 2020 with revenue of 7 $100,000,000 and non GAAP loss per share of $1.97 which reflected the negative impact of the COVID-nineteen pandemic on our business.

Our digital penetration for the year doubled compared to 2019 to 25% in 2020. Moving on to our outlook for 2021. We're providing our 2021 outlook despite the significant uncertainty due to the pandemic, and as such, it could be subject to material change. Our outlook doesn't contemplate new store closures, lockdowns or extensions of current lockdowns beyond what we know already. In addition, our outlook does not contemplate further supply chain disruptions, including any greater impact beyond the minimal impact currently expected from the shipping disruption occurring as a result of the temporary blockage of the Suez Canal.

Our actual 2021 results could differ materially from our current outlook as a result of the occurrence of any of the uncontemplated events. Despite the ongoing store closures in Europe, we are encouraged by the recovery we are seeing in our international businesses and expect those businesses to exceed 2019 pre pandemic revenue levels within the first half of the year. We expect our North America business to remain challenged throughout 2021 as we expect the international tourism, which has historically represented 30% to 40% of our regional business, will not show improvement throughout the year. Overall, for the full year, we're projecting revenue to approximately grow 22% to 24% as reported and 19% to 21% on a constant currency basis compared to the prior year. We expect gross margin to increase in 2020 due to significantly reduced promotional activity as inventory levels are significantly lower at the end of 2020 and a change in revenue mix with our higher margin international businesses will make up a larger portion of our total revenue.

When we think about our operating expenses despite an expected increase due to revenue mix as our higher expense international businesses make up a larger portion of our revenue, we expect operating expenses overall to decrease as a percent of revenue in 'twenty one compared to 2020. And we will continue actions that we began in 2020 to reduce course and reallocate resources to support strategic growth areas of the business. This includes in 2021 reducing our workforce in certain international markets, reducing our office space and closing select stores. We expect to realize $60,000,000 of annualized savings from these actions, which are in addition to the previously announced actions we took to streamline our North America operations, including reducing our North America workforce by 12% and exiting our Heritage Brands retail business by mid-twenty 21. As a reminder, our outlook for 2021 reflects approximately $20,000,000 of estimated operating losses in the first half of the year associated with the wind down of the Heritage Brands retail business.

We expect that the increase in gross margin percent in 2021 versus 2020 and the decrease in operating expenses as a percent of revenue in 2021 versus 2020 will be relatively similar in magnitude, with each worth a few 100 basis points. For the full year in 2021, we are projecting non GAAP earnings per share to be approximately $6 versus a loss per share of $1.97 in 2020. Our tax rate for the year is estimated at 17.5% to 19.5%. When we think about our tax rate by quarter, we currently expect that the rate for the 1st three quarters will be relatively similar, with the 4th quarter expected to benefit from certain discrete items, which bring down the overall rate for the full year. We expect our interest expense to decrease in 2021 to approximately $110,000,000 We're planning voluntary debt repayments of $700,000,000 for the year, which is equivalent to the incremental borrowings we took on in 2020 to manage through the pandemic.

As of today, we have already made repayments of $400,000,000 We expect our capital expenditures in 2021 to be $300,000,000 to $325,000,000 and will include continued investments in platforms and systems, including digital commerce and enhancements in our warehouse and distribution networks. For the Q1, our revenue is projected to increase 42% to 44% as reported and 34% to 36 percent on a constant currency basis. Revenue from directly operated digital commerce businesses continue to experience strong growth globally, but our stores continue to face significant pressure as a result of the resurgence of COVID-nineteen cases in Europe and Canada, with approximately 75% of our stores in Europe closed early in the quarter and 50% that currently remain closed today. In addition, inventory and sales volume during the Q1 have been impacted by a recent global vessel and container shortage, which is leading to delayed spring 2021 inventory seats and in turn has delayed deliveries to our wholesale customers and affected product available in our direct to consumer businesses. 1st quarter non GAAP earnings per share is planned

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in a range of $0.80 to

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$0.83 compared to a loss per share of $3.03 in the prior year period. We expect interest expense to be about $30,000,000 and taxes to be about 40% in the Q1. And with that, operator, we'll open it up for questions.

Speaker 1

Thank We will take our first question from Bob Tripol of Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning, Stephan, and good morning, Mike and Vanna. I guess the first question that I have is, can you comment on current trends in China, sort of what you're seeing there? Maybe even update us on current trends in Europe, especially relative to the U. S?

Speaker 3

Yes. So good morning, Bob. We are feeling good about the current trends in China, and we're feeling good about the current trends overall. And we are impressed, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we are impressed by our European team's ability to execute so well in a very difficult backdrop.

Speaker 4

Bob, I would just add, that European business has done an incredible job of moving as things close and shift around. So we ship from stores, they sell digital in a big way on some of the pure plays as well as the customer.com. So they've done a really great job of moving product and selling it through.

Speaker 5

And then just a second question, if I could. Mike, can you talk about how you're planning European inventories given the lockdowns and given the trends and just sort of I think I know you guys said you're comfortable with your inventory levels, they seem good, but maybe if you could just give us a little more color in terms of that specific region, that would be helpful for us. Thanks.

Speaker 4

Sure. Look, the inventories are down coming into the year. But as we think about the total company, I would say we've made investments in select markets where we believe that there's an opportunity to do more business in Europe and Asia have really proven that they can deliver. So as you think about the year, we're down to start, but we will continue to see a ramp up in building working capital as we move through the year. Last year did not reflect a normal year.

It's a horrible comparison, and it's been difficult. I would also just add that some of the delays on inventory with the Suez and some of the issues around container shortages. It just has a big piece of that will impact Europe. It's reflected in our numbers, the Suez is 7 to 10 days and it's all manageable and we have it reflected now. But that is also going to move inventories around in Europe in terms of when they get receded and processed.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Erinn Murphy of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Great. Thank you. Good morning. I guess, Stephane, for you, as you laid out 2021, you talked about the international segment kind of growing relative to pre COVID levels, North America still below. I guess, 2 parts.

1, on the composition of the European order book for fall at high single digits. Can you talk a little bit more about how that's composed between physical, digital, new accounts versus existing? And then in North America, just given the ongoing pressure you're seeing in this market, are there any further distribution changes contemplated in the guide? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. So good morning, Aaron. So to your first part of your question when it comes to European order books, we see the order the strength in the order books as a result of the overall strength in our execution, the strength of our brands and the strength in especially in e commerce that we see now. And we see the collaboration that we have had since a long time back with our European pure players are really working well, and that's a big part of it.

Speaker 4

And Erin, would you mind repeating the second part of the question? You broke up here.

Speaker 2

Sorry about that. Yes, just on North America, obviously, that market, I think you talked about ongoing pressure in 2021. I was curious if there's any future distribution changes contemplated in the guidance.

Speaker 3

No. It's what's contemplated in the guidance is that there would be a recovery of tourism over time, and that will take time. And in parallel, we will double down on our accelerated recovery efforts, which is very focused on the continuing to drive strength in e commerce and continuing to drive strength in e commerce owned and operated and

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without parkers.

Speaker 2

Got it. And then if I could just add one just for Mike on the cost reduction plans for 2021. Can you just share with us what's the kind of net savings that you're expecting in 'twenty in this current fiscal year and if there's kind of deeper phasing beyond this year for the net savings that you're seeing? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. So look, we took a charge in 2020 and then another charge in 2021. Our total gross savings, including the charges related to those reserves as well as discretionary expense cuts is about $250,000,000 of gross expense savings. We're going to invest about $100,000,000 So on an annualized basis, we have a planned reduction of about $150,000,000 About 60% of that will fall into 2021.

Speaker 2

Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Sure.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Next question comes from Michael Binetti of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions here. Stefan or Mike, as I think about the guidance you gave, I think it pencils out to an EBIT margin for the year of about 7.2% or 7.3%, maybe 7.50%, 8 100 basis points above last year, which I know is a tough compare. But Mike, you described it as about half and half the contribution from gross margin and SG and A to get to that year over year improvement.

I guess that could put you in a range of gross margin up close to like 57% above where we've seen the business in the past. I know there's some regional differences, but could you help maybe bridge us from the $54,700,000,000 you had in 2019 up to that level? And then I think that also would imply SG and A back to maybe $4,400,000,000 in 2019, which is over $4,400,000,000

Speaker 4

So I

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know the revenues are guided a little bit lower here. So with the cost you did, cuts you did last year, if anyone's coming in that you mentioned, maybe you could speak a little bit to what some of the offsets to the investments are there or investments that are offset there, if you could.

Speaker 4

I'll start and I big question. So on revving look, as it relates to the gross margin mix. When you think about gross margin, we have a mix component. So the mix piece is being driven. We're growing faster in the international businesses.

So we are seeing some mix there. We started the year very clean, and we are improved in each region as it relates to gross margin just through less promotion. I mean, we are really clean. And at this point, we're right on this being down 12%. So I think those are the real drivers.

We continue to make see the business move towards the digital piece and get better utilizations of inventories wherever we can, which I think is also helping. And that's part of the systems and the investment piece we talked about as well. When you think about the expenses, it's also being driven by the mix piece. We are these international businesses are higher EBIT margin, higher gross margin, higher operating expense businesses. And as we grow those faster, we do see an increase on the expenses as a percent of revenues, and that's a piece of it as well.

The biggest driver on gross margin, I just want to call it out, is planned improvement in the business, really being cleaner and being less promotional. Did I get it all?

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And Stefan

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yes, as you said, Stephane, if I could ask one bigger maybe bigger picture. I realize it's our math, but if we take the licensing businesses out of the U. S. And make some assumptions about how profitable we think those are. The margins in the categories that you do operate directly are quite low relative to the international markets in North America.

Can you just maybe give us an early thought on what you think medium or longer term, how to approach the margins in North America, excluding licenses? Where do you see the opportunities to improve those margins, especially if the to your point, the high margin tourism component could be below the high watermark for a bit?

Speaker 3

Yes. So Michael, it connects back to our recovery priorities in North America, where we see that we have opportunities and work to do to better connect with the domestic consumer. And doing that from an e commerce perspective, doing that with strength in products and get higher pricing power and higher margin expansion coming out of that and then over time, see the stores coming back and recover because what we do see is when countries or regions recover from the COVID resurgence, we see the consumer going back to shopping physical stores, and they keep shopping, and the big growth would continue to be in e commerce. But we see the consumer is truly shopping across channels.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from Dana Telsey of Telsey Advisory Group.

Speaker 8

Good morning, everyone. Hello, Stefan, Dana and Mike. Stefan, as you think about Hi, Susan. Hi. As you think about channel distribution, we've heard about Kohl's entry in fall of 2021.

How do you think about the landscape in North America for your distribution for Calvin? What is Kohl's ad? Do you go into all stores? And are you looking at other digital channels or digital channels where you think you could drive sales, market share and margin?

Speaker 3

Good morning, Dan, and thank you for your question. It's our distribution strategy and plans and execution. We'll always follow where the consumer goes. So when we look ahead, we own and operate e commerce is going to be increasingly important. Our direct to consumer channels overall, both e commerce and brick and mortar, is going to be important.

Our wholesale e commerce is going to be increasingly important. And our wholesale brick and mortar, when we recover out of COVID, is also going to be important. So the most important here for us is to win in the marketplace and have that approach. And when it comes to distribution choices going forward, it's going to be where our consumer wants to shop and how they want to shop, and we will follow that.

Speaker 1

The next question comes from Jamie Merriman of Bernstein. Please go ahead. Thanks very much.

Speaker 8

Savan, you talked in your remarks about importance of the connected inventory position in Europe. And clearly, that's been really key as you've navigated through lockdowns. And I think, Mike, you just talked about the opportunity to use e commerce to help get better utilizations of inventory. I'm just wondering, where are you on that connected position in other regions? Is that something that still could be a driver of improved inventory utilization in Asia and North America?

How should we think about that?

Speaker 4

Yes. Look, I would say Europe is the lead on it and we're learning from how they operate. We then move to China where we see they're starting to make connections with Tmall and really starting to benefit through those connections and the balance of Asia as well. And North America is the furthest behind, but we're making progress. We're starting to get connectivity through warehouses in some of our stores where we're able to do some shipping.

So it's allowing the customer to shop where they want, when they want, how they want, and as Stephan said, follow the consumer. So we're making those moves, but we're lagging in the U. S. And moving fast to recover.

Speaker 1

Great. Thank you. Thank you. And next question comes from Jay Sole of UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you so much. My question is just want to follow-up on the gross margin. To what extent is foreign exchange going to be an impact on gross margin this year? Also, when we talk about inventory being very clean, is there a quality of sale initiative going on, sort of intentionally trying to get out of some maybe lower margin business?

Or is it just that the inventory is so clean that the amount of markdowns will be less? And then, Stephan, on SG and A, when you think about the amount of SG and A that's budgeted this year and sort of implied in the guidance, How do you feel about that SG and A in terms of its ability to drive the key investments that you think are most important for the business going forward versus how much you're trying to balance short term earnings growth and maybe postponing some of those investments for a later date? Thank you.

Speaker 4

So look, I think as it relates to getting out of low margin product, we always look to move our business around and prune off low margin and add higher margin product. The mix of business definitely helped drive that. As we move more towards internationally, it just shows up in our numbers as higher gross margins as the piece of pie grows there. There is a transaction benefit this year. I would just caution you, it is about $40,000,000 over 20 But it's an apples to orange comparison as just purchases were so different, the business was so different, timing of receipts is it's a very hard comparison to make, but it is about 40,000,000 dollars I think I've done anything, Stefan?

Speaker 3

So Jay, when it comes to your question about SG and A and if we have the SG and A needed to drive the growth areas and drive the execution to win with the consumer coming out of COVID, the answer is yes. And as Mike mentioned, when we had $250,000,000 of gross savings, we invested 100,000,000 dollars in the growth area. So we will never compromise long term growth for short term savings.

Speaker 6

Got it. And then maybe one more, if I can follow-up, Mike. Just on the cadence of the sales growth through the year quarter to quarter, as it's implied in the guidance, can you just talk about how you see sales trending, say Q1 versus 2019 versus how Q2, Q3 and Q4 might look versus 2019?

Speaker 4

So look, I guess what I'd say is the way we've guided is the way we're actually trending. And that's really that's how we see trends today. We're on plan and we feel comfortable with the numbers we've given you. What I would say is, as you think about the year, we I think looking at 2019 takes out a lot of the noise with the closures and issues around last year. So if we prune that out for the year, we're planning to be down about 10% and for the Q1, we're going to be down about 18%.

If you then look at the balance of the year, that falls relatively evenly for quarters 2, 3 and 4. So I hope that helps in terms of some cadence.

Speaker 6

That does help. Thank you, Mike. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Next question comes from Kimberly Greenberger of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Okay, great. Fantastic. Thanks so much. I wanted to follow-up on the strength and the momentum you're seeing in international markets with, I think, first half revenue expected to be above first half of twenty nineteen internationally. Obviously, there were a number of headwinds in Europe that you cited.

So are we sort of to read into that, that what you're seeing is just absolutely tremendous growth in Asia, a little more sluggish in Europe, but you expect Europe to catch up in the back half of the year. I'm just wondering how we should think about those 2 regions relative to one another. Thanks.

Speaker 4

Yes. Look, it's when you think about the we are planning Europe is 50% closed today. We are planning those stores to open as the governments have laid out their plans. That's our dates, give or take. We're not planning this revenge buying these huge spikes in business.

We plan relatively conservative around the opening dates that we're given. But Europe has shown incredibly resilience even with the closures being able to move goods to channels that they can ship to or from. And it's just been a really good story, coupled with the strength in China. So I wouldn't say Europe is a second half recovery at all. I would say that international for the first half is going to be ahead of pre pandemic levels, which we're really excited about.

Speaker 9

It's so amazing. And Mike, can I just follow-up with long term gross margin targets? I'm just looking at what you've laid out here for this year, the gross margin looks extremely encouraging. And if you were to look out 3 to 4 years, is there a gross margin target that we should have in mind, just given the calling of some of the lower profit areas, growth international, anything in mind for that?

Speaker 4

Yes. Look, it's we're putting our arms around trying to gather the information and looking forward to an Investor Day in the future. We'll in the balance latter part of this year, where we will walk you guys through our thoughts. Coming through the pandemic, the mix of business by channel and by brand, we just need some time. We'll put that together, and then we'll walk you through it later in the year.

Speaker 9

Understood. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3

And just connecting back to your question around Europe and Asia and just building on what Mike was just saying that we, as PVH, we have 2 of the most iconic brands in the fashion industry. And what we can see in Europe and Asia is that the strength of those brands, the relevance of those brands, coupled with execution really, really close to where the consumer is going in terms of e commerce growth, omnichannel, connected retail, strength in product. So for us internally, it's a very good benchmark. We have time for one more question.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from Kate Fitzsimons of RBC Capital Markets.

Speaker 10

Yes. Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Stephane, you've really reiterated your focus on the more hero casual products. I am curious as we come out of COVID and we potentially see pent up demand in more fashion categories, how are you balancing potential shifts in consumer preferences with your forward inventory buys?

And perhaps refer to your ability to leverage some of the advancements on the supply chain? And then just real quick, Stefan, you've made a slew of new hires more recently. Just any other holes in the organization that we should be thinking about looking out? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you. And on the product side, it's just that's one of the areas where it's one of the key value creating engines and the importance of staying close to the consumer is something we really lean into. And so we're building on our core strength on the categories where we big categories where we have the right to play and win, and then we follow the consumer as closely as we can. On the team side, I just want to reiterate what I've said throughout since I joined.

The team is one of the core strengths of PVH, And it will be one of the key drivers for our ability to execute on the accelerated recovery and coming into a post COVID world where we are ready to complete and win. With that, we thank you for joining us and wishing you a great day. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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