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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

May 9, 2023

Operator

Everyone, my name is Lisa. I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q2 Holdings first quarter 2023 financial results conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. To remove yourself from the queue, that is star one again. I would now like to turn the call over to Josh Yankovich, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Josh Yankovich
Director of Investor Relations, Q2

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our first quarter 2023 conference call. With me on the call today are Matt Flake, our CEO, David Mehok, our CFO, Jonathan Price, our Executive Vice President of Emerging Businesses, Corporate and Business Development, and our newly appointed President, Kirk Coleman, who will join us for the Q&A portion of the call. This call contains forward-looking statements that are subject to significant risks and uncertainties, including with respect to our expectations for the future operating and financial performance of Q2 Holdings and for the financial services industry. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements, and we can give no assurance that such expectations or any of our forward-looking statements will prove to be correct.

Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected in the forward-looking statements are included in our periodic reports filed with the SEC, copies of which may be found on the Investor Relations section of our website, including our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed today and subsequent filings and the press release distributed this afternoon regarding the financial results we will discuss today. Forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions only as of the date discussed. Investors should not assume that these statements will remain operative at a later time, and we undertake no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements discussed in this call. Also, unless otherwise stated, all financial measures discussed on this call will be on a non-GAAP basis.

A discussion of why we use non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures is included in our press release, which may be found on the Investor Relations section of our website and in our Form 8-K filed with the SEC this afternoon. We've also published additional materials related to today's results on our Investor Relations website. Let me now turn the call over to Matt.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Thanks, Josh. On today's call, I will share our results and highlights from the first quarter. I'll then hand it over to Jonathan to provide more insights into our emerging businesses activity before David discusses our financial results and guidance in more detail. Before I dive into the quarter, I wanted to spend a few moments sharing our high-level perspective on the regional and community banking space. Over the past two months, we have spent a lot of time with our customers. We partner with a diverse mix of banks and credit unions that represent many different geographies and sizes.

In general, the vast majority of them report that they believe their businesses to be healthy and that they have not been meaningfully impacted by the recent challenges affecting a select number of banks, which aligns with the survey results and research findings that others in our sector have cited in recent calls. Moreover, we believe that banking is going to continue to be done digitally, and that financial institutions will continue to invest in upgrading their technology to compete in their markets and serve their customers more efficiently. In this environment, where retaining customers and deposits are at a premium, technology is especially critical, and we believe we have built a best-in-class digital banking platform, which is designed to help financial institutions win, retain, and grow deposits across both retail and commercial lines of business, all from a single system.

We're seeing strong demand and sales execution to support these beliefs. We've had two record sales quarters in a row. We had our best ever win rates in the first quarter. We accelerated subscription revenue growth, our pipeline remains healthy. With that said, we're seeing some of our larger financial institution customers further tighten spend on discretionary services in addition to what we noted in the February call as they move to a more conservative financial position following recent events. As a result, we have updated our guidance to reflect some incremental pressure on our services revenue, as well as the potential impact to our results associated with First Republic Bank, which as we disclosed last week, represented 2.5% of our revenue in 2022, the majority of which was professional services driven. Let me jump into the results from the first quarter.

We delivered strong growth in subscription revenue, which was up 19% year-over-year. As a reminder, subscription revenue, which is driven by our long-term contracts, is highly predictable and our largest and highest margin revenue category. Therefore, we believe it is an important barometer of the health and outlook of our business. In total, we generated non-GAAP revenue of $153.1 million, up 14% year-over-year and 4% sequentially. On top of accelerated subscription revenue growth, we delivered increased profitability results with adjusted EBITDA of $16.5 million or 11% of revenue. In recent months, we've talked about managing the business with an increased focus on profitability, and our adjusted EBITDA results from the quarter underscore our ability to continue executing on that strategy.

On the sales side, we drove strong bookings growth for the second straight quarter and had our best digital banking bookings quarter ever. We delivered record win rates across a broad mix of deals, large and small, bank and credit union, retail, small business, and commercial. Competition for these deals are highly competitive and range from point solution startups to the core companies and payments processors. I'm proud that almost 20 years into this business, we're still winning on innovation, user experience, and our single platform approach. We continued to win up-market, signing three new tier one digital banking customers, including two top 100 U.S. banks and a top 100 U.S. credit union. One of these deals highlights the value of our single platform approach.

The bank came to us for small business banking, but upon seeing the rest of our portfolio, purchased the whole suite, from retail to small business to commercial and more, making this a top 5 all-time deal in terms of ARR. In my view, the current focus on deposit growth is partially to thank for such a strong sales quarter. It's driving increased demand as prospects look to upgrade from legacy technology in order to win new customers and retain deposits. Our platform gives them a single, efficient, best-in-class solution with which to do that. The current focus on deposits is also generating interest in our relationship pricing solutions, where we believe we have a strong second-half pipeline.

This is because in addition to pricing new loans, financial institutions use these solutions to get the most out of their existing portfolios and more effectively price services on the deposit side of their commercial relationships. In total, our sales execution and strong financial results from the quarter underscore why we remain confident about the fundamentals of our business. Demand is strong, we're competing better than we ever have, we are accelerating subscription revenue growth, and we are demonstrating our ability to drive improved profitability. Finally, before I turn the call over to Jonathan, I wanted to pause and congratulate Kirk Coleman, who we recently promoted to President. Kirk spent his early career at Accenture, where he specialized in banking and digital transformation. He began his journey with Q2 as an executive at one of our large regional bank customers.

In December 2021, he joined our team as chief banking officer, where he's overseen our product, marketing, and strategy functions. In that time, he's brought a deep empathy and understanding of our customers' businesses and the financial services industry in general to Q2, and has played an instrumental role in interfacing with customers and guiding our teams. In his role as president, he will become responsible for scaling the operations of this business, from sales and customer relationship management to product development, delivery, and support. While I remain focused on areas like culture, strategic direction, and discussions with key customers, prospects, and investors. I'm excited about his skill set, his passion, and his deep management experience. I look forward to partnering with him to capitalize on the opportunity in front of us.

I'd now like to turn the call over to Jonathan to provide updates and highlights from the first quarter for our emerging businesses.

Jonathan Price
EVP of Strategy and Emerging Businesss, Q2

Thanks, Matt. I'll start with Q2 Innovation Studio, which has continued to see strong adoption from both partners and customers. When we launched, our vision was to create a best-in-class partner ecosystem that would allow third-party technology to easily integrate into our digital banking platform, and in turn, give our customers the ability to seamlessly add those partners into their digital channel in a fraction of the time of traditional delivery. In doing this, Q2 Innovation Studio will provide financial institutions the ability to save costs associated with traditional technology partnerships, add solutions that drive non-interest fee income, and ultimately drive deeper, broader engagement with their account holders. Today, we are several steps towards achieving this vision. We have driven customer adoption with more than 300 of our digital banking customers, representing approximately 16 million users now leveraging Q2 Innovation Studio.

We have scaled the partner ecosystem with more than 120 available technology partners. The last piece of the model is end user adoption, and in the past 12 months, we've more than doubled the number of users actively using our partner solutions, driving high-margin revenue to Q2. That said, we believe we are still in the early innings of end user adoption. We are pleased with the progress to date and are seeing Q2 Innovation Studio drive real, meaningful outcomes for our customers. Take the story of a roughly $500 million bank in Tennessee. To differentiate themselves in their market, they set an aggressive innovation roadmap, but couldn't deliver against it quickly enough through conventional delivery channels, and like many regional community financial institutions, lacked the technology resources to take on the work themselves.

In the last 12 months, the bank has added six new solutions using Q2 Innovation Studio's partner ecosystem, from credit scoring to a residential mortgage offering to an AI chatbot. They have told us they expect to drive over $1 million in combined revenue and cost savings from these solutions in 2023 alone, further strengthening their relationship with their customers and with Q2. In this environment, where financial institutions are looking for ways to deliver innovation more efficiently, retain and grow customers and deposits, and uncover new revenue opportunities, Q2 Innovation Studio provides an especially compelling value proposition. Because of this, we believe it's a key reason we're seeing record win rates in digital banking. As has been the case for several quarters, Q2 Innovation Studio was cited as the key reason we won in a majority of our digital banking deals.

This quarter, it was cited in roughly 75% of our wins. Moving to Helix, we had another strong quarter of renewal activity, signing two of our largest customers to multi-year deals. With these renewals, nine of our 10 largest customers have signed multi-year extensions with us in the past 18 months. Multi-year renewals such as these demonstrate the confidence our customers place in us and provide an important base as we seek to grow and drive improved profitability of Helix in the years ahead. The current backdrop is creating opportunities to deepen and grow our relationships. The flexibility of our technology and our deep direct partnerships with our sponsor banks help us move quickly to support our customers as their goals and operating environments change.

For example, during the quarter, we worked closely with one customer who, after March 9th, needed to quickly connect certain capabilities to an alternative bank. We helped them find a solution and leverage Helix technology to solve their problems inside of 24 hours. We added roughly 300,000 new users in the process. As far as the demand environment, we believe we have a solid pipeline for the remainder of the year. That companies in our target markets remain committed to pursuing embedded finance strategies. With the current prioritization of customer retention and deposits across the financial services landscape, embedded finance is a powerful way for customers and partner banks to grow deposits. Helix has a proven, differentiated offering that's already supporting more than 14 million end users across our customer base. Thank you.

With that, I'll pass the call to David to discuss our financial results and guidance in detail.

David Mehok
CFO, Q2

Thanks, Jonathan. At the start of the year, we communicated our focus on delivering accelerated growth in subscription revenue coupled with a meaningful improvement in adjusted EBITDA and cash flow. We're extremely pleased with the progress we made on these priorities in the first quarter as we increased the growth rate of our subscription revenue and built on our bookings momentum with a record performance in digital banking. We delivered better-than-expected revenue and adjusted EBITDA in addition to generating better-than-expected cash flow from operations for the first quarter of the year. We also took proactive action to reduce our total debt balance through the repurchase of $171 million of long-term convertible debt at a meaningful discount to face value, reducing our total face value of debt by approximately 26%.

I'll begin by reviewing our results and conclude with updated guidance for the second quarter and full year of 2023. Total non-GAAP revenue for the first quarter was $153.1 million, an increase of 14% year-over-year and up 4% sequentially. The year-over-year and sequential increases for the quarter were primarily driven by growth in subscription-based revenue, which was up 19% year-over-year and 7% sequentially. The year-over-year acceleration in subscription revenue growth was primarily attributable to the deployment of new digital banking customers. The year-over-year and sequential acceleration in subscription revenue growth was driven from incremental revenue associated with cross-sold solutions and organic growth.

Our subscription revenue for the quarter was 75% of our total revenue, up from 72% of total revenue in the prior year period and 74% of total revenue in the previous quarter. Due to the strength we've observed in our subscription-based bookings, we continue to expect our full year 2023 subscription revenue will accelerate from the growth we observed in 2022. The strength in subscription revenue was partially offset by continued weakness in services and transactional revenue. Services revenue was up 5% year-over-year, while transactional revenue was down 5% year-over-year. As Matt mentioned, we believe developments over the past couple of months will result in lower professional services revenue than anticipated for the remainder of the year.

As a result, we're modifying our expectations for professional services engagements associated with projects that are more discretionary in nature, which I will further discuss with our updated guidance. Transactional revenue represented 11% of total revenue for the quarter, down from the prior year period of 13% and consistent with the previous quarter. Both the year-over-year and sequential decline in transactional revenue are in line with the trends we started to observe in the back half of 2022. During the quarter, we added approximately 400,000 users to our digital banking platform, ending the quarter with approximately 21.5 million registered users, an increase of 9% year-over-year. The year-over-year and sequential increase was largely driven by organic user growth.

Annual Recurring Revenue, or ARR, grew to $672.7 million, up 13% year-over-year. Our subscription ARR growth for the quarter was up 17% year-over-year, driven largely by net new deals within our digital banking business and indicating continued strength in this important part of our business. Within ARR, the growth in subscription revenue was partially offset by a decline in transactional revenue and a moderation of growth in services, driven by lower professional and consulting services. Our ending backlog of over $1.5 billion increased by $38 million sequentially, or 3%, and equated to a 10% increase year-over-year. The year-over-year increase was attributable to strength in net new bookings, including our largest-ever digital banking bookings quarter. The sequential increase was also driven from strong renewal performance.

As we mentioned previously, while sequential change in backlog may fluctuate quarter to quarter based on the number of renewal opportunities available within a given quarter, we continue to believe we will show an increase in backlog for the full year. Gross margins were 54% for the 1st quarter, up from 51.4% in the prior year period and 51.5% in the previous quarter. The year-over-year and sequential improvement in gross margin was driven primarily by a favorable mix in revenue towards our higher-margin subscription-based business, in addition to cost efficiencies within our delivery and support operations. As a reminder, we had a mutual contract termination in the 4th quarter of 2022 which negatively impacted gross margins by 150 basis points for that time period.

Total operating expenses for the first quarter were $72.5 million, or 47.4% of revenue, compared to $65.7 million, or 48.9% of revenue in the first quarter of 2022, and $72.7 million, or 49.5% of revenue in the fourth quarter of 2022. The decrease in operating expenses as a % of revenue was driven primarily from improved cost scaling to revenue within sales and marketing, as well as additional cost efficiencies realized in our research and development expense through the effective utilization of our global workforce and enhanced productivity. Sequential decline of sales and marketing as a % of revenue was also a result of a decrease in marketing events when compared to the fourth quarter of 2022.

In May, we will have the return of our in-person annual client conference, Connect, where we will have over 1,000 guests from our customers and partners in attendance. This event will incur additional sales and marketing expenses of almost $2 million in the second quarter and is reflected in our second quarter guidance. Total adjusted EBITDA was $16.5 million for the first quarter, up from $8.1 million in the prior year period and $8.4 million in the previous quarter. The year-over-year and sequential change in adjusted EBITDA saw a meaningful benefit from the improved mix of higher margin subscription revenue, cost-effective utilization of our global workforce, broad-based efficiencies across the organization, with the sequential change also benefiting from lower contractor-related expenses.

We ended the first quarter with cash equivalents, and investments of $271.7 million, down from $433.4 million at the end of the fourth quarter. The decrease in cash was primarily a result of the use of over $149 million for the privately negotiated repurchase of approximately $171 million of convertible debt. We paid the remaining $11 million in principal amount of our convertible debt which matured during the first quarter of 2023. While our first quarter typically reflects a use of cash from operations based on the timing of our annual bonus payout, in the first quarter of 2023, we generated positive cash flow from operations of $3.9 million due to improved profitability and strong working capital management.

We believe our continued focus and actions driving higher profitability and working capital management will translate into continued strength in our cash flow conversion for the remainder of the year. Let me wrap up by sharing our second quarter and updated full year guidance. We forecast second quarter non-GAAP revenue in the range of $153.1 million -$155.1 million. In full year, non-GAAP revenue in the range of $618 million-$630 million, representing year-over-year growth of 9%-11%. As I mentioned previously, while we continue to expect an acceleration in full year subscription revenue growth as compared to the prior year, our updated full year guidance reflects a reduction in our expectations with respect to lower margin discretionary services revenue, which has an immediate revenue impact.

We forecast second quarter adjusted EBITDA of $14 million-$16 million. Full year 2023 adjusted EBITDA of $67 million-$71 million, representing approximately 11% of non-GAAP revenue for the year. We've raised our full year adjusted EBITDA guidance because we believe that despite expected revenue headwinds within services revenue, our increased mix of higher margin subscription revenue streams, combined with cost and efficiency initiatives implemented over the past few quarters, will generate adjusted EBITDA results exceeding our prior expectations. Summary, for the first quarter, we delivered revenue and adjusted EBITDA results above our expectations and an acceleration in subscription ARR driven by record digital banking bookings. We generated positive operating cash flow in what's typically a seasonally challenged quarter for us and reduced our debt balance, primarily through the repurchase of convertible debt at a meaningful discount.

We're revising our revenue to incorporate lower discretionary services revenue concentrated in a few larger customers, and we continue to remain confident that the increasing contribution of subscription revenue and improving cost efficiencies will allow us to continue to deliver sustained growth and margin expansion in 2023 and beyond. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Matt for his closing remarks.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Thanks, David. In closing, I want to reiterate my confidence in our business, our products, and our ability to drive long-term value creation. In spite of the disruptions in the banking space, we continued to drive acceleration in subscription revenue growth and delivered strong non-GAAP profitability results. We also had a record first quarter in terms of digital banking bookings, building on our momentum from a strong second half of 2022. In this environment where financial institutions are focused on customer retention and growing deposits, we're seeing record win rates and levels of demand for our digital banking solutions, which are proven to help financial institutions win and retain new customers. I also want to emphasize my confidence in the long-term importance of regional and community financial institutions.

There have always been big banks, community-focused banks and credit unions have always offered an agility and localized products and services that set them apart. Today, by being able to level the playing field with technology, I believe they are as viable, competitive, and crucial as they've ever been. Community banking is integral to our economy and our way of life. We expect that to remain true long past what we believe will be a temporary disruption we're seeing in the market. Our products have never been more important to our customers than they are right now. Thank you. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, everyone, that is star one on your telephone keypad to ask a question. We'll take our first question from Alex Sklar with Raymond James.

Alex Sklar
Equity Analyst, Raymond James

Great. Thank you. Matt, another really nice subscription bookings quarter. I just want to ask, start with the demand environment broadly and specifically the linearity of bookings in the quarter, kind of before versus after the kind of early March, some of the bank failures. I know bookings are normally back of the quarter weighted, but anything to flag in terms of % of bookings that came in the final few weeks of March versus historical? Thanks.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Yeah. I'll answer the bookings question. Thanks, Alex. It was 35% of the bookings came after March 10th. You know, March 10th is the Silicon Valley Bank situation. It, you know, the momentum continued, and that kind of builds on the demand environment comments right now. If you think about, right now we had record bookings, digital banking bookings in the first quarter after, you know, typically record bookings for the company in the fourth quarter of last year and a really strong second half of the, of the third quarter. Two and a half quarters of really strong bookings and the demand, the pipeline is strong still. RFP activity is up 40%, from the prior quarter and the prior year, and we're just seeing a tremendous amount of demand for these products.

I would tell you that if you think about what's gone on, prospects of ours have customers that have opened accounts at other banks because of the insurance, the insured account situation. They're getting to see the big four's technology. When they look at their existing legacy tech, the banks come back to us and say, "We need a modern platform that works on mobile phones and tablets, has full feature functionality, retail, small business, and commercial banking," it really is driving a lot of demand in the pipeline for us. It takes a little bit to get your arms around that in the environment with the news around community and regional financial institutions. The demand environment's as strong as it's been in a long time.

We feel good about our win rates are as high as they've been in a significant period of time. That's it.

Alex Sklar
Equity Analyst, Raymond James

That's a really good flag on the big four kind of tech competition kind of driving demand for some of your customers. I guess, David, just one follow-up for you. I appreciate the color on subscription ARR bookings. That's a good call-out. Is there anything that's changing in terms of kind of your ability to hit the kind of Rule of 30 outlook exiting last year, just given the change in discretionary revenue? Thanks.

David Mehok
CFO, Q2

Not at all, Alex. In fact, you know, one of the things that we talked about when we had our call three months ago was the fact that, you know, there is flexibility in that model. That Rule of 30 concept, Rule of 40 concept obviously provides us with flexibility, and we can modulate either one of the line items depending upon what the market gives us in one instance and the things that we can control in cost in the other. We feel really good now about our ability to continue to deliver on the combined EBITDA as well as growth rates as we get towards the end of 2024. I'll give you an example.

You know, this year, if you remember, when we gave our guidance originally, we were at about 21%-22% in terms of those two metrics combined. We came down with our revenue growth rate based upon discretionary services, but with our increase in EBITDA guidance, we're roughly in that same range. It's an example this year of our ability to modulate, our ability to execute on those things that we control, which is cost in this instance, and we think we're gonna be able to continue to do that to 2024 and hit that Rule of 30.

Alex Sklar
Equity Analyst, Raymond James

All right. Thank you both for the color.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Thanks, Alex.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Andrew Schmidt with Citi Global Markets.

Andrew Schmidt
Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Kirk, congrats on your role. Great to see. Great to see the resilience in the demand environment, something we had kind of thought about a lot as well. You know, maybe to put a finer point on it, since you do serve, you know, a wide range of FIs across digital banking, digital lending, can we talk about if there are differences in demand pipeline sales cycles across, you know, whether it's different types of FIs or different asset size institutions? You know, maybe as a quick follow-up to that, if you could comment on just the overall health of your customer base, since it sounds like you've talked to a lot of customers, what you're seeing there. Anything on those fronts would be helpful. Thanks a lot, guys.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Yeah. Sure, Andrew. I would say, also welcome to Kirk as well. Really excited to have him on board, or have him as the President. From my, it doesn't matter right now whether you're a tier three, tier two, or tier one customer. The thing that I think that's differentiating is the ones that are thinking about using technology as a way to compete and differentiate, and that's where we're seeing the demand come from. Obviously, the ones that may not have as strategic of a view as our customer base or the prospects that are out there, aren't in play. The ones that we've always gravitated towards are the ones that have a strategic view and have a long-term view in the marketplace.

It's been a, you know, the demand's just been strong in all three categories, Tier Three, Tier Two, and Tier One. The second part of the question was around?

Andrew Schmidt
Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Health.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Oh, the health of the customers. You know, we talked about it a little bit. I think all of the, you know, the core processors and everybody have talked about the edge cases that occurred here, whether it's business model, runs on the bank, poor management, those are edge cases. The vast majority of our customers bank individuals, small businesses, medium-sized businesses. They're main street lenders, and depositors. Those folks just they didn't see what these other financial institutions that have trouble Have seen. It's a matter I think we have to get through this storm and then we will realize that these guys are a critical part of the economy. They're where job growth comes from. There's where entrepreneurship goes. You know, we believe we have a very healthy customer base.

The Bauer ratings are all strong on our customers. Of course, you're gonna have some of these educations that occur, but we feel really, really good about the health of our customers. We have a broad and diverse set of customers that are both credit unions, banks, big, small, mid-size, and banking a lot of different businesses. Feel really good about the customer health. It's just gonna take a little time for people to get comfortable with it.

Andrew Schmidt
Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Super helpful. Thank you for that commentary, Matt. If I could ask about just the just on the cost side? It, you know, great to see the EBITDA performance for the full year despite the top line. It looks like there might have been some cost efficiencies that were accelerated or, you know, kind of some better execution there. Can you just talk about what, you know, kind of cost efficiency benefits that are embedded for this year? What's the opportunity for just seeing kind of incremental benefit from those? Because I know you do have a number of things going on. Any context there on the cost side would be helpful. Thanks a lot.

David Mehok
CFO, Q2

Yeah, sure, Andrew. You know, this is something that we started last summer. It's not something that we've implemented over the course of the last few months, and we've just been building on a lot of those initiatives that we put in place about nine to 10 months ago. I'll give you an example of some of those that are having the biggest impact. The first is utilization of global resources in a more effective manner. We're doing that across many areas of the business. We're finding not only is it helping us in terms of our cost profile, but it's also helping us in terms of the overall output. We're seeing really high output from the teams that we're utilizing overseas.

We're continuing to invest in those areas, and we found it to be highly effective across the board. We've looked at our facilities footprint exiting last year. We've continued to execute on that in terms of reducing the overall footprint. You see about a $3 million-$3.5 million impact this year relative to last year in terms of some of the actions we've taken there. We've gotten more aggressive in terms of our ability to consolidate vendors and drive costs out from a procurement standpoint. We're using automation in everything that we possibly can to improve a lot of the processes that we have, and as a result, the cost. As an example, in our customer care, we're using AI to help us better understand customer behaviors and drive a lot of efficiencies there.

There's a lot of that that's embedded in different areas of the business that are driving incremental areas of productivity, and that's translating into cost. As we're growing the business, we're not having to add heads. In some instances, as we may have somebody leave the company, we don't have to backfill those roles. We feel really good about what we've seen through the first quarter in terms of our cost profile. Obviously, we have confidence that we're gonna be able to continue to do the same thing going forward for the next three quarters, which is the result of the increased guidance in EBITDA.

Andrew Schmidt
Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Got it. Thank you very much, David. Appreciate the comments.

David Mehok
CFO, Q2

Thanks, Andrew.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Terry Tillman with Truist Securities.

Terry Tillman
Managing Director, Truist Securities

Yeah, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Appreciate all the color and nice job on the booking. I guess maybe I don't know if this is for you, Matt or Kirk. Is Kirk gonna answer questions if we ask him a question, or I don't want to put him on the spot, but I just want to kind of know that before I unleash my questions here.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

I'm here, Terry. He can answer questions.

Terry Tillman
Managing Director, Truist Securities

Okay. Okay. All right. I don't know if this is more for Matt right now, I'll let anybody just attack it or even David. You guys, every quarter for a number of quarters have been talking about these digital banking wins where it's commercial and small business banking. I mean, definitely something's afoot. I know y'all have been working on this for years in terms of hardening that platform. What I'm curious about is it a lot of legacy replacement opportunities? Just kind of where do you think we are in the innings of that? Where have you gotten to in terms of being able to scale to the much larger banks in terms of managing treasury and commercial banking services? Then I'd follow up.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Yeah. I'll comment on the success in small, mid-size, and commercial banking. Sometimes I have to remind people that our first line of code that we wrote in 2004 had ACHs, wires, tax payments, and entitlements built into it. About 12 years ago, we made a significant investment into treasury and commercial banking capabilities, which takes you up above small business. What we learned during that process is you can write the software and you can deliver the code, but the experience around delivering the software, converting from legacy systems, providing a support infrastructure around those customers and integrating into the systems that are different than retail is it takes a long time.

As we've shown you over the last, since we've gone public in 2014, you know, with more than 75 customers above $5 billion in assets, we are really moving into that area where we can handle larger commercial customers. That success over the last couple quarters is about a product that is very difficult to compete with in the marketplace. If you're a legacy tech player that hasn't been able to modernize your tech to where it works on mobile phones and tablets and has a sleek user interface, and also is able to integrate to the not only the commercial systems, but the retail systems.

If you're down market and you don't have any experience converting a 10, 15, 20 billion dollar bank off these systems, they're not going to take their chance with their crown jewels to go to somebody who's never done it before. We're in a really unique spot there competing with these legacy players. It's all legacy tech out there on the commercial side, Terry. In some cases, 25, 35 years old is what we're talking about as far as some of the even older than that, some of the systems that they're using. Feel really good about the demand environment there and doing well. That's it's a good place to be, and I think you're going to continue to see that success through this year, and hopefully beyond that.

William McNamara
Equity Research Associate of Application Software, BTIG

That's great to hear. I guess maybe Kirk, to go ahead and put you on the spot then, and congrats on the new role. You are a former bank technology executive. You know, as you've had some time in at Q2, what product or kind of market opportunity do you think is maybe least understood or underappreciated? Thank you.

Kirk Coleman
President, Q2

Thanks, Terry. Appreciate the congratulations. I'd kind of point to two different things. Just to double down on some of what Matt was talking about. You know, the difference between just kind of a regular business account and treasury management services is pretty substantial in terms of the complexity of actually delivering that and scaling it in a way that's really important, not just for the largest institutions, but also for small institutions who are serving very specific segments and that sort of thing. It takes a lot of at-bats to get really good at that because you have to see all the different varieties. You know, we have a really wonderfully diverse set of customers, that gives us a lot of different things to work on with them.

That builds up over time. I think that's probably not as appreciated, from the outside as what we see on the inside and the amount of investment that we've had to make over time. That also bridges over into things like our PrecisionLender, product, right, which is now transitioning fully into both sides of the balance sheet, where we have Premium Treasury Pricing, capabilities, which in this environment, of course, is just critically important in terms of pricing, not just the loans, but the deposit relationships. All of those treasury relationships, we'll just kind of remember that on the deposit side of the balance sheet, the real money is made when you can charge for treasury services. Getting that really right and being able to customize it, particularly for your larger customers, is super important.

I think that would be an arena, Terry, that I would point to as far as I think the amount of R&D that had to go into building those kinds of products is probably not as well understood as we might like.

William McNamara
Equity Research Associate of Application Software, BTIG

That's great. Thanks a lot.

Kirk Coleman
President, Q2

Thanks, Terry.

Jonathan Price
EVP of Strategy and Emerging Businesss, Q2

Thanks, Terry.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Bob Napoli with William Blair.

Adeeb Choudhury
Senior Equity Research Associate, William Blair

Hey, good afternoon, guys. This is Adeeb Choudhury in for Bob. Just, in terms of first question, could you just talk a little bit more about that decision, I guess, structurally to break out the President and COO role and how we should think about the impact, if any, towards in terms of Q2's core strategy and go-to-market? Thanks.

Kirk Coleman
President, Q2

It won't have any impact on our go-to-market. It's just deepening the leadership bench, you know, opening up the room for more voices and perspectives, which is a valuable thing for us to do at this stage and scale in the company. It's focusing leadership on both the strategic and the operational sides of the business. Execution is critical to us. Our customers want to see it. I want to see it. My board wants to see it. The shareholders do.

I think with Kirk laser-focused on the operational side of the business and me working with him to help him in any way I can and him providing help for me and the team on the strategic side, it was a natural time for us to do at this size, and I'm excited about having him.

Adeeb Choudhury
Senior Equity Research Associate, William Blair

Thanks. Appreciate that. Then just as a quick follow-up, just thinking about kind of capital allocation and M&A, could you kind of talk about your current appetite in the current environment, and if you're starting to see more attractively priced assets and things that you'd potentially be interested in in terms of product-oriented capabilities or others? Thanks.

Jonathan Price
EVP of Strategy and Emerging Businesss, Q2

Yeah, I mean, it's Jonathan. I would say we're starting to see the flow of inbound opportunities, but candidly, the quality of the assets and the value expectations aren't where we'd like them to be or we expect them to be as we get towards the end of this year and into next year. That has taken longer. To be fair, there's been a lot of other macro events that have occurred that might have delayed that from happening. We are seeing more inbound activity from the corp dev standpoint, but again, nothing that has excited us or got us to a point of action.

You know, candidly, I think we're in a moment in time where we have to be pretty prudent when it comes to capital allocation, given, you know, the scarcity value of cash, and we have a good amount to be competitive and credible in these discussions. We just have to be smart about doing the right deals. That's sort of where we sit today on the corp dev front.

Adeeb Choudhury
Senior Equity Research Associate, William Blair

Appreciate the comments.

Jonathan Price
EVP of Strategy and Emerging Businesss, Q2

Thank you.

Kirk Coleman
President, Q2

Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from William McNamara with BTIG.

William McNamara
Equity Research Associate of Application Software, BTIG

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just kind of wanted to know how you guys are seeing current demand from customers for more automation or AI capabilities.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Kirk, do you want to take that?

Kirk Coleman
President, Q2

Yeah. Hey, William. Thanks for the question. You know, it's early, right? We're not even in the first inning. We're in the first pitch of the first inning when it comes to kind of the where we are in the evolution of AI. We're excited about the potential that it has for positively impacting our business and our products. Having said that, risk management, information security, compliance, privacy are all really important concerns. We're, you know, looking at all those aspects as we think about how we can move forward. Certainly, it's a conversation we're having with our customers and, I'd say just stay tuned on what some of the possibilities are going to be.

William McNamara
Equity Research Associate of Application Software, BTIG

Great. Thank you.

Operator

As a reminder, everyone, that is star one on your telephone to ask a question. We'll take our next question from Parker Lane with Stifel.

Parker Lane
Managing Director of Equity Research, Stifel

Yeah. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Wondering if you could, you know, talk a little bit more about the discretionary services spend and the headwinds you're facing there. I think we've talked in the past about, you know, back office automation, staff augmentation of business fee projects being the areas that people are looking to trim right now. Is it largely the same tune on that front, or are you seeing incremental challenges, different areas, and types of projects, scope of the work, you know, coming in and compressing here?

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Yeah. No, Parker, you answered it for me. That's the thing. Staff augmentation, you know, efficiency projects where you're driving. You may have a double cost for a period of time, but you're gonna save money in the long run. When March 10th happened, everybody just kind of took a pause and a break and said, "We're gonna have to evaluate what's coming down the pipe on discretionary spending." That's, that's what it is. There's no change, just March 10th added a different level of it for us. You know, it's something that when you have a bunch of big customers, it's something that comes along with the territory. The subscription revenue, obviously, we're really pleased with the results from that, and we continue to be pleased with that line of revenue.

You know, we'll get through this discretionary spend and, they'll pick it back up at some point. Right now it's just a matter of, they're trying to sit back and watch what's gonna happen.

Parker Lane
Managing Director of Equity Research, Stifel

Yeah. Appreciate that, Matt. We've often talked about M&A being a tailwind to your story. I think historically you're on the right side of M&A. With the recent developments that we saw in March and subsequent events, has that had any impact on the M&A approval pipeline and, you know, how are you thinking about that generally throughout 2023?

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Yeah. Clearly, especially after coming off TD and First Horizon, that deal, it doesn't look like regulators want deals to get done. You know, with that said, First Citizens is a customer of ours, and they acquired Silicon Valley Bank in the quarter, so obviously a great opportunity for us. Look forward to working with First Citizens and Silicon Valley Bank on doing whatever we can to integrate those and make that conversion as simple as possible. But M&A is obviously slowed down, but I think the reason we had been so successful in M&A, those reasons still exist. When it picks back up, when consolidation happens, we're gonna be in a good spot again, in my opinion.

Just a matter of kind of, like I said earlier, just weathering the storm, and we still have the most strategic customer base, I would argue of a vendor out there, and those customers are going to go acquire other financial institutions to grow and get scale in this economy.

Parker Lane
Managing Director of Equity Research, Stifel

Understood. Thanks again for taking the question.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Thanks, Parker.

Andrew Schmidt
Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Thanks, Parker.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Alex Markgraff with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Alex Markgraff
Vice President of Equity Research, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hey, y'all. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe just to pile on to the demand topic, more specifically within the kind of emerging business segment. For Jonathan, just kind of curious, you provided some helpful anecdotes around, you know, the events in March. Just curious how your conversations more broadly have evolved with customers in the last couple of months and, you know, maybe how expectations for 2023 have changed, if at all, as the backdrop has evolved a bit. Thanks.

Jonathan Price
EVP of Strategy and Emerging Businesss, Q2

Yeah. Let's bifurcate between Innovation Studio and Helix. On the Innovation Studio side, we are seeing more demand for partners for access to the channel. They want to integrate with banks and credit unions, and as they've faced headwinds in their business because of economic pressures, funding pressures, the demand for, you know, a single point of entry to many users like we have, over 21 million on the platform, we're seeing broad-based demand for our partners that's driving a lot of the success we're seeing on the Innovation Studio side. You look at Helix side, I think, you know, you have seen some impact on the net new environment in terms of the lengthening of sales cycles because of, you know, scrutiny around banks, especially post March 9th.

You know, in our model, our fintechs and brands are partnering with sponsor banks. That there's definitely a different level of diligence that goes into that, but the pipeline is still strong. I think if anything, the demand for deposits is driving a renewed interest in what a lightweight core can do to help drive deposit gathering strategies. We feel really good about it. As we talked about on the call, our existing customers are renewing with us. We're being very strategic in helping them navigate their profitability profiles, managing things like fraud. You know, it's a matter of, again, navigating this environment and making sure that we're there for our customers and in the right position to win new deals as they come up.

The pipeline does remain strong for the rest of the year, so we're cautiously optimistic.

Alex Markgraff
Vice President of Equity Research, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. Thank you.

Jonathan Price
EVP of Strategy and Emerging Businesss, Q2

Thank you.

Matt Flake
CEO and Chairman, Q2

Thanks, Alex.

Andrew Schmidt
Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Thanks, Alex.

Operator

Thank you, and this does conclude the question and answer session. Thank you for participating in today's call, and you may now disconnect.

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