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Earnings Call: Q4 2015

May 27, 2015

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the RBC Bearings fourth quarter 2015 earnings conference call. My name is Tia, and I'll be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If at any time you require operator assistance, press star zero, and an operator will be happy to assist you. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host for today, Mr. Mike Cummings, Alpha IR Group. Please proceed.

Mike Cummings
President and Partner, Alpha IR Group

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for RBC Bearings' fiscal 2015 fourth quarter earnings conference call. On the call today will be Dr. Michael J. Hartnett, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Daniel A. Bergeron, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before beginning today's call, let me remind you that some of the statements made today will be forward-looking and are made under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those projected or implied due to a variety of factors. We refer you to RBC Bearings' recent filings with the SEC for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact the company's future operating results and financial condition. These factors are also described in greater detail in the press release and on the company's website.

In addition, reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial information is included as part of the release and is available on the company's website. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Dr. Hartnett.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Thank you, Mike, and good morning and welcome. Net sales for the fourth quarter 2015 were $113.4 million versus $113.7 million last year. Operating income was 22.3% or $25.3 million, resulting in an adjusted EPS of $0.73 per share versus $0.73 per share last year. I'm very pleased with our execution this quarter. On a full-year basis, sales were $445 million versus $415 million last year, up 6.3%. For the full year, adjusted EPS was $2.74 versus $2.58 last year, up 6.2%. Adjusted EBITDA of $30.7 million was generated during the quarter and $120 million for the full year. Gross margins for the period came in at 39.6% versus 39.8% last year. Aerospace and defense sales were up 2.2% for the full year and basically flat with last year on quarter comparisons. For the quarter, there was a lot of noise in the aerospace and defense revenue line.

Some of it as a result of timing where shipments were made early in the year in support of government programs. Some of it as a result of weak aftermarket demand at the beginning of the year and government program runout from earlier periods. During this quarter, revenues for the aircraft aftermarket expanded 11%. Some of it is a result of the Swiss currency strengthening. It is better to look at the full year, look at this as a full-year episode, and that will normalize some of these issues. The base OEM business in support of airframe and engine makers continues to expand at a low double-digit pace, and we continue to bring on new products in support of new designs for future production of aircraft and engines, which today are at the early stage.

For the fourth quarter of 2015, sales of the industrial products represented 44% of our total sales. Sales of aircraft products represented 56%. Our industrial markets were up 0.1% on a quarter-over-quarter basis. Net of the Schaublin product sales, which were impacted by the currency shift, our North American market expanded between 3.5%-4% for industrial products. Dan will talk more about this subject in a minute. For the full year, industrial sales were up 11.9% over last year. Obviously, our recent acquisition of Sargent Aerospace & Defense will impact these results in a favorable manner going forward, and we expect to see sales ending our first quarter in the $140 million range as we have less than two months of operating performance to include here, and also many issues to resolve on the accounting side to integrate the performance of Sargent with RBC's calendar.

Now, I'll turn the call over to Dan.

Daniel Bergeron
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Thanks, Mike. SG&A for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 just decreased by $0.5 million to $19.1 million compared to $19.6 million for the same period last year. As a percentage of net sales, SG&A was 16.9% for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to 17.2% for the same period last year. The decrease in SG&A year-over-year was mainly due to a decrease of $1.2 million associated with professional fees, personnel-related expenses, and other expenses offset by an increase of $0.7 million in incentive stock compensation expense. Other operating expenses for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 was expense of $0.5 million compared to expense of $0.5 million for the same period last year. For both periods in fiscal 2015 and 2014, other operating expense consisted mainly of amortization of intangibles.

Operating income was $25.3 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to operating income of $25.2 million for the same period in fiscal 2014. We had a small amount of acquisition expense in the quarter, $60,000. Excluding this cost, operating income would have been $25.4 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to $25.2 million for the same period last year. Excluding this adjustment in operating income as percentage of net sales, was 22.4% for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to 22.1% for the same period last year. Other non-operating expense for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 was $3.2 million. This was mainly comprised of $3.1 million associated with the translation and remeasurement of non-functional Eurocurrency on our Swiss balance sheet.

Income tax expense for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 was $7 million compared to $6.7 million for the same period last year. Our effective income tax rate for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 was 31.9% compared to 26.9% for the same period last year. The effective income tax rate for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 includes discrete tax benefits of $0.4 million compared to $1.1 million for the same period last year. Excluding these discrete tax benefits, the effective income tax rate would have been 34.6% compared to 31.1% for last year. For the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015, the company reported net income of $14.9 million compared to net income of $18.2 million for the same period last year.

Excluding the after-tax impact of costs associated with acquisition activity, foreign exchange translation losses, and the discrete tax benefit, net income would have been $17.1 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to an adjusted net income of $17.1 million for the same period last year. Diluted earnings per share was $0.64 per share for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to $0.78 per share for the same period last year. Excluding the after-tax impact of costs associated with acquisition activity, foreign exchange translation losses, and the discrete tax benefits, diluted EPS for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 would have been $0.73 per share compared to an adjusted diluted EPS of $0.73 per share for the same period last year.

Turning to cash flow, the company generated $9.4 million in cash from operations in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to $12 million for the same period last year. For the full fiscal year 2015, the company generated $71.8 million in cash from operating activities compared to $48 million for the same period last year. Capital expenditures were $5 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to $6.3 million for the same period last year. For the full year 2015, capital expenditures were $20.9 million compared to $28.9 million for the same period last year. In fiscal year 2015, the company paid a cash dividend of $46 million, and we purchased common stock of $7.1 million. The company ended the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 with $125.5 million of cash and $9.2 million in debt on the balance sheet.

I'd like to turn the call back to the operator to begin the Q&A session.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, press star one. If your question hasn't been answered or you wish to withdraw your question, press star two. Questions will be taken in the order received. Again, that is star one. The first question comes from the line of Walter Liptak with Global Hunter. Please proceed.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Financial Analyst, Seaport Global Holding

Hey, good morning, guys. Good quarter.

Daniel Bergeron
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Good morning.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Financial Analyst, Seaport Global Holding

Hi. I wanted to ask first about the aerospace business and your comments about better to look at the annual rate. I wonder, as you look out over if you grew a couple of % this year, if you look out over the next 12 months, is that sort of the growth rate that you're expecting excluding the Sargent deal?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Good question. Let's see. Looking out over the next 12 months, we don't expect a currency shift to hit us again, so that ought to be good news. I think last year we had sort of a weak demand from the aerospace distributors in the aftermarket, and that seems to be normalized and strong now. I think the defense programs are sort of tepid, so I would expect that overall we're going to be in the high single digits in terms of expansion rate driven principally by the major OEMs for airframe and engine and sort of offsetting some of the defense weakness and no more currency impact.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Financial Analyst, Seaport Global Holding

Okay. That sounds great. Are you expecting the Sargent business to see revenue growth over the next 12 months?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

From their last 12 months?

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Financial Analyst, Seaport Global Holding

Yeah. I think they were at about 195 was the number that you guys press-released.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. I would expect them to be overall flat with the last 12 months.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Financial Analyst, Seaport Global Holding

Okay. And then, Dan, maybe just to help with modeling some of the overhead expenses, can you give us a number on what you think overall SG&A is going to be including Sargent in 2016?

Daniel Bergeron
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. I think it will be closer to around 15.5%-16%. But our assumptions haven't changed since what we presented to you about a month ago when we announced the deal. As you know, we're just in the process of preparing our beginning balance sheet valuations with our experts to make sure that our assumptions that we did give everybody are correct. So I think when we report our first quarter earnings the first week of August, everybody will get a good view of what we have on the books in the way of amortization and interest and debt-deferred amortization costs.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Financial Analyst, Seaport Global Holding

Okay. Okay. So it sounds like the accretion numbers that you talked about previously are still those are still good numbers.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. It's only been four weeks, so.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Financial Analyst, Seaport Global Holding

All right. Good. Congratulations. All right. Okay. Thanks, guys.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Kristine Liwag with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Kristine Liwag
Aerospace & Defense Sector and Smid-Cap Suppliers, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hi. Good morning, guys. Great quarter.

Daniel Bergeron
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Thank you.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Thank you.

Kristine Liwag
Aerospace & Defense Sector and Smid-Cap Suppliers, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Not to rush or anything because I know you're in the initial stages of integrating Sargent, but post-deal, I think you have about $130 million left in your revolver, and your net debt to EBITDA is about 2.6 times. Could you maybe provide some color on your appetite for doing other deals and what you think about your priorities for capital deployment this year and maybe next year?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, let's start with the start at the top there, Kristine. I think we won't probably do a deal this size this year. I think we're going to be in the process of sort of integrating the Sargent activities with the RBC activities and getting the accounting homogenized with RBC's accounting and getting our sales and marketing people lined up and working on improving their execution and margin expansion. So I think we're going to be pretty busy with Sargent for this year. I would think by the end of this year, we'd be in a much better position to answer a question like that.

Kristine Liwag
Aerospace & Defense Sector and Smid-Cap Suppliers, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Great. And then for your gross margins, I mean, historically, you guys have guided to about a 1% gross margin improvement on an annual basis. When we think about the business maybe without Sargent on a go-forward basis, is that 1% still what we should be looking at? And then now with Sargent, what should that 1% look like?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, I think the 1% is still good for the base business. I mean, we have some really good programs that are maturing now and starting to show their strength. I think I'd defer the gross margin expansion with Sargent included until our August conference call so that we have more time to spend with the Sargent people understanding where their opportunities are.

Kristine Liwag
Aerospace & Defense Sector and Smid-Cap Suppliers, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. Great. Thank you so much.

Operator

Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, that is star one. The next question comes from the line of Larry Pfeiffer with Avondale. Please proceed.

Larry Pfeffer
VP and Senior Research Analyst, Avondale Partners

Good morning, gentlemen. Congrats on the quarter.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Thank you.

Larry Pfeffer
VP and Senior Research Analyst, Avondale Partners

So just kind of trying to dive into the industrial side of the business, what are you guys thinking about for a growth rate there? Do you think the 3.5%-4% you saw in the underlying North American business this quarter is a decent run rate for fiscal 2015 or fiscal 2016?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. Let's see. Well, I think the industrial business, it's got some strong spots and some not-so-strong spots. So I think we look at the general industrial business that we service, and it's strong, and it's good, and it's growing, and it's got sort of some exciting new programs with substantial scale, which will be phasing in slowly this year and with more mass next year and the year following. So I think general industrial is good. I think the mining business, we expect that to start off weak in our first two quarters and strengthen in our last two quarters. So mining is sort of touch-and-go right now. And on the oil and gas side of our business, I think everybody kind of has a view of what's happening there. That market isn't wonderful.

We're kind of in a sweet spot in that market where our volumes have some protection around them for some of the OEMs that we service. And so I think we don't see any growth occurring in that market next year, and we're going to be happy to maintain sort of a flat revenue number. So I think the heavy lifting on our industrial business next year is going to have to be done in the general industrial markets.

Larry Pfeffer
VP and Senior Research Analyst, Avondale Partners

Okay. And then do you have a feel for kind of a split between the OEM and aftermarket side of it?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. That's kind of a 50/50 deal, really. It may be Dan is searching for the right numbers, but I'm guessing it's what is it? It's 70/30?

Daniel Bergeron
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. This year, for the full year, we did $72 million and $126 million to the OEM.

Larry Pfeffer
VP and Senior Research Analyst, Avondale Partners

Okay. That's all I had. Thank you very much, guys.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Samuel Eisner with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

Nick Stewart
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. This is Nick Stewart on for Sam.

Daniel Bergeron
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Hey, Nick. Hello, Nick.

Nick Stewart
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

I just had one quick one piggybacking off of that prior question. Can you talk about what you're seeing in mining that is giving you confidence in kind of a back half recovery?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

What we see in mining right now is the aftermarket is pretty much propping up the whole mining world. So we look at the tonnage of copper and steel produced each quarter and see how well their mines are running, and they've been pretty consistent. So any OEM growth that you see out of some of the big producers would benefit those volumes. On the smaller side of the mining business, which we might classify as mining but is really residential construction and street and highway construction, and we just categorize it broadly as mining, that business really responds well to housing starts and GDP growth. So a little pickup in that GDP area and a little pickup in housing starts is going to help that business year-end, and we're subscribing to an increasing GDP growth rate as the year ages.

Nick Stewart
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. That's helpful. That's all I had. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Edward Marshall with Sidoti & Company. Please proceed.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Good morning. So when you gave—excuse me. When you gave the split out of the industrial and aerospace growth in the press release, you talked about a $1 million you excluded a $1 million in foreign currency. Is that all on the industrial side of the business, I assume?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

No. It hit both sides.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Could you give the growth rates X that currency?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. Yeah. So the growth rate for industrial for the quarter was 0.1%, and for aerospace and defense, it was -0.5%.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Okay. And in the prepared remarks, we talked about maybe timing being and to look on a 12-month basis. Over the full year, it looks like it was up about 2.5% for aerospace. Do you have the mix between what the impact in commercial and what defense was for either the full year or the fourth quarter? It may be helpful.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

No. We don't have that broken down yet.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Okay. And in the backlog, when I look at it, down 4%, what's responsible for the decline? Is it aerospace, or is it industrial?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, first, about $4 million is just remeasurement due to the drop in the exchange rate. And then the other side of it is aerospace, mainly defense. And on that, it's mainly timing.

Yeah. It's mainly timing. We had a delayed contract that should have come in in our fourth quarter and actually came in in our first quarter, which amounted to about $2 million to that change. This year, we have a substantial number of 3-5-year contracts rolling over in the aircraft business. Since they're rolling over this year, you don't have years with a backlog as you normally do to roll into your backlog numbers. We're very busy negotiating and extending contracts through the next cycle, and that is having a substantial impact on that number too. When we exclude maybe Sargent from the content discussion and generally, my experience suggests that when these 3-5-year contracts come up, it's pricing and content awards that you win.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

If the index is one today or 100 today, a year from now, what do you anticipate your cost will be on kind of the commercial programs excluding Sargent?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

The index representing our base business?

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Yes.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

We don't expect to lose any. We haven't heard of any of that. We actually have picked up some new accounts that are meaningful that we didn't have previously. And then you have the A350, the Joint Strike Fighter, and the 787 sort of building in volumes and an increase in the 737 rates. So we're going to pick up share, and we're going to pick up mass.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Okay. Is it a content discussion about these contracts, or is it a pricing discussion?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

It's both. It's both. Certainly, the new airframes, there's a lot of new content in the new airframes and a lot of new designs in the new airframes. So there's substantial content discussion going on around that, and the rest of it is about pricing and terms. Terms are a big deal, and terms are hard to negotiate. And it seems like everybody's been schooled on that to an art form. So these contracts are taking time to put in place.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

So I assume some of these new larger aircraft like the 787, I assume they're not coming up for the 3-5-year awards, or are they?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Oh, they are.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

They are? Okay. And you're not seeing any impact from Partnering for Success?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

We are.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Okay. And then, Dan, I guess you talked about the accounting of Sargent, and you talked about the SG&A in 2016 being 15.5%-16% of revenue. And historically, when you make acquisitions, the SG&A ticks up. I think the last one was up about 100 basis points. Is it because of the size of this deal that it's not, or is it because of the mix that's aerospace and therefore you're actually seeing a decline? Because I guess it's been running around 17%. So you expect it to fall?

Daniel Bergeron
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Well, their SG&A as percentage of sales runs a little lower than ours. But until we finalize beginning balance sheet, find out where the amortization's fallen, the depreciation, we're not going to have a good number to give you until we talk again in August.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Okay. And the number you provided, though, that was for Sargent, or that was for the entire business?

Daniel Bergeron
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Entire business.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti & Company

I see. Okay. Thank you, guys.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Kristine Liwag with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Kristine Liwag
Aerospace & Defense Sector and Smid-Cap Suppliers, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hi. I just wanted to follow up on that question prior on Boeing Partnering for Success. I was wondering if you guys could provide a bit more color on what that means for you. Does that mean you can get more share but at a lower price, or I mean, any color would be helpful.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, that means if you can reach an accommodation with Boeing on that program, that your current Boeing business is protected for 3-5 years. I think it's 3. I'm sure it's 3. So you'll have no competition on your current business direct to Boeing, which is not a lot of our business direct to Boeing. Most of our business is to Boeing subcontractors.

Kristine Liwag
Aerospace & Defense Sector and Smid-Cap Suppliers, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

And so does that mean in three years' time, there's room for negotiation for pricing stepdown, or is that contract up for renegotiation or recompetition?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

I think it's very dependent upon how long they hang on to Jim McNerney. This is the same drill he did at GE Evendale in 1994, almost exactly the same playbook, probably gathered a little dust and gained a few pages. But this is Jim McNerney's playbook. I think in three years, he's gone, and it's a new era for Boeing.

Kristine Liwag
Aerospace & Defense Sector and Smid-Cap Suppliers, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Sure. So is Boeing trying to move, I mean, I understand that a lot of your commercial aerospace sales is to the suppliers. Is there a desire for them to move to some sort of Boeing master contract where then your negotiated price with Boeing is what the supply chain would buy?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

There's an attempt to do that. They have done that with Fasteners with some success, and there's an attempt to do that for other commodities, which are sort of more highly engineered products that they buy for their planes. Whether they can actually do that or not is effectively anybody's guess.

Kristine Liwag
Aerospace & Defense Sector and Smid-Cap Suppliers, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Great. Well, thank you so much.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Thanks. All right, Kristine.

Operator

Now, let's turn this conference over to management for any closing remarks.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, we thank everybody for participating in the call today and the interest that you have in RBC Bearings. We'll certainly have a more definitive and tuned-up discussion in August after we have solidified the accounting figures on Sargent and have a good pro forma on its impact to RBC. But we're very pleased with the acquisition. We're very happy with the strength of the management team. I think Sargent's going to be a it's going to be easy to integrate it with the RBC resources, and I think the RBC resources will help Sargent accelerate their programs in many ways. So that's what we're working on, and we'll report back in August. Thanks for your time.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. That concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect.

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