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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

Aug 4, 2022

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the RBC Bearings Q1 Fiscal Year 2023 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Josh Carroll, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Josh Carroll
Investor Relations Representative, RBC Bearings

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for RBC Bearings Fiscal 2023 first quarter earnings conference call. With me on the call today is Dr. Michael J. Hartnett, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Daniel A. Bergeron, Director, Vice President, and Chief Operating Officer, and Robert Sullivan, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before beginning today's call, let me remind you that some of the statements made today will be forward-looking and are made under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those projected or implied due to a variety of factors. We refer you to RBC Bearings recent filings with the SEC for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact the company's future operating results and financial condition.

These factors are also described in greater detail in the press release and on the company's website. In addition, reconciliation of GAAP and non-GAAP financial information is included as part of the release and is available on the company's website. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Dr. Hartnett.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Thank you, Josh, and good morning, all. I'll start off by saying that net sales for the first quarter of fiscal 2023 were $354.1 million versus $156.2 million for the same period last year, an increase of 126%. For the first quarter of 2023, sales of industrial products represented 72% of net sales, aerospace products, 28%. Gross margin for the quarter was $141.2 million, 39.9% of net sales compares to $63.8 million or 40.8% for the same period last year. Adjusted operating income was $68.3 million, 19.3% of net sales compared to last year of $29.9 million and 19.1% respectively.

GAAP EPS was $1.09 and our adjusted EPS came in at $1.79, and Rob will explain this in more detail later in the call. The quarter performance was very much in compliance with our expectations, right in the middle of the fairway. A little lower on revenues than our guidance as a result of losing $6 million-$10 million from the shutdown of our Shanghai, China plant and some unusual missteps by a forward freight manager. Adjusted EBITDA was $100.7 million, 28.4% of net sales compared to $45.3 million, 29% of net sales for the same period last year. During the period, we paid down debt by another $125 million, and free cash flow was $51.2 million.

We entered the first quarter with a strong industrial sector. All components, including industrial distribution, food, aggregate, grain, mining, semiconductor machinery, marine wind energy were strong. The outlook here is more of the same for the next quarter. Sales of industrial products were up by 286.8% from last year. RBC organic growth for industrial products was up 17.3%. Turning now to aerospace and defense. The first quarter of fiscal 2023, net sales were up 10%. The revival in production at Boeing is a welcome contributor as their plans to increase rates on the Max to over 500 and 600 ships in 2023 and 2024 respectively from 330 today. Airbus sets a new pace of 700 and 800 ships for the A320 series over the same period.

Today, they plan on producing 600 ships. This brings a new and welcome post-COVID volume to our factories, many of which were designed and capitalized over the past six years to efficiently produce products for these important aircraft models. As many of you already know, RBC Bearings was honored to receive the Supplier of the Year award from Boeing at their June supply chain conference in Los Angeles. We have been a supplier to Boeing since the 1940s, probably earlier, and participate in every plane model currently produced and a great many defense products. Boeing commercial aircraft is supported today by over 11,000 suppliers. The release to production of the Boeing 787 model aircraft is an important milestone event for us. Several of our plants produce many unique products for this plane, and our content is substantial.

Obviously, we are applauding the resumption of production of this aircraft and are busy now reviewing plant capacity to support the increase. We are using 10 ships per month in 24 months out as a planning bogey. A word on our defense business. The outlook here is positive for new designs, hardware and services, new designs for advanced munitions, aircraft and submarines with expanded mission profiles. It's very active right now, and it's a pretty exciting place to work. Our business supporting the construction of Virginia-class and Columbia-class ships continues to expand, and we plan to add to our manufacturing and test facilities over the next 24 months to support these requirements for the next at least 12 years. More on this aspect in future calls.

Finally, given the deployment of U.S.-made equipment to Europe in the past months, there's been a strong initiative underway here for replenishment of munitions. As you can imagine, we will be impacted by that. Regarding the second quarter, we are expecting sales to be between $355 million and $365 million. The arc here in that range is all about supply chain. Now I'll turn the call over to Rob for more detail on the financial performance.

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Thank you, Mike. SG&A for the first quarter of fiscal 2023 was $55.8 million, compared to $31.2 million for the same period last year. As a percentage of net sales, SG&A was 15.8% for the first quarter of fiscal 2023, compared to 20% for the same period last year. Other operating expenses for the first quarter of fiscal 2023 totaled $20.9 million, compared to $3.2 million for the same period last year. For the first quarter of fiscal 2023, other operating expenses included $17.3 million of amortization of intangible assets, $3.8 million of costs associated with the Dodge acquisition, and $0.2 million of other income.

For the first quarter of fiscal 2022, other operating expenses consisted primarily of $2.6 million of amortization of intangible assets and $0.6 million of restructuring costs and other items. Operating income was $64.5 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2023, compared to operating income of $29.3 million for the same period in fiscal 2022. On an adjusted basis, operating income would have been $68.3 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2023, compared to adjusted operating income of $29.9 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2022. Interest expense for the first quarter of fiscal 2023 was $15.8 million, including $2.3 million associated with the amortization of deferred financing fees. This compares to interest expense of $0.3 million for the same period last year.

The year-over-year increase reflects the addition of the term loan facility and the senior notes utilized for the Dodge acquisition during fiscal 2022. For the first quarter of fiscal 2023, the company reported net income of $37.4 million, compared to net income of $24 million for the same period last year. On an adjusted basis, net income was $40.2 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2023, compared to $24.3 million for the same period last year. Net income available to common stockholders for the first quarter of fiscal 2023 was $31.7 million, compared to net income of $24 million for the same period last year.

On an adjusted basis, net income available to common stockholders for the first quarter of fiscal 2023 was $34.5 million, compared to $24.3 million for the same period last year. Diluted earnings per share was $0.09 for the first quarter of fiscal 2023, compared to $0.95 for the same period last year. On an adjusted basis, diluted earnings per share for the first quarter was $1.19, compared to adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.96 for the same period last year. Starting this quarter and in future releases, we reflect a newly defined adjusted earnings per share. In recent months, it's become clear everyone's a bit all over the place in how they're considering earnings per share.

We've listened to feedback from our shareholders, and we believe this new metric will best reflect the ongoing performance of our business. To be clear, in future periods, we will no longer report cash earnings per share or our historical adjusted earnings per share, which only considered foreign exchange, discrete and other unusual tax matters, and other non-recurring or unusual items. The new adjusted earnings per share will reflect adjustments for one-time or unusual items, foreign exchange, discrete and other unusual tax matters, amortization of M&A related intangible assets, amortization of stock-based compensation, and the amortization of deferred financing fees. For the first quarter of fiscal 2023, this new adjusted earnings per share was $1.79, compared to $1.22 for the same period last year. This year-over-year improvement reflects the significant benefits provided by the Dodge acquisition.

Please refer to our press release filed this morning for the full calculation. Turning to cash flow, the company generated $59 million in cash from operating activities in the first quarter of fiscal 2023, compared to $53.3 million for the same period last year. We made a strategic investment in our inventory during the current period, which impacted the operating cash generation. Capital expenditures were $7.9 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2023, compared to $3.4 million for the same period last year. We paid down $125 million on the term loan during the period, leaving total debt of $1.565 billion as of the end of the period, and cash on hand was $119.6 million.

Finally, I wanted to offer some brief details on the restatement of our 10-K previously filed in May. This restatement arose out of the company's reexamination of the timing of the recognition of stock-based compensation expense associated with certain executive awards. Under U.S. GAAP, the recognition of compensation expense associated with these awards should have been accelerated due to certain clauses in the agreements associated with voluntary termination. The result of these adjustments is an expense that would have previously been recorded in fiscal 2023 and future years has been recorded in previous periods.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

The impact in fiscal 2022 was an additional $9 million of pre-tax compensation expense. The impact in fiscal 2021 was a reduction in expense of $3.2 million, and the impact in fiscal 2020 was an additional $7.4 million of pre-tax compensation expense. Importantly, these adjustments relate to a non-cash expense item and impacts the timing of the recognition rather than the overall amount of the compensation expense. There was no impact to our historical non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA as we traditionally exclude stock-based compensation from that metric. As a result of these adjustments, the total expense recognized in fiscal 2023 is expected to be less than previously anticipated, including a reduction of more than $5 million for the total for the rest of the fiscal year. I would now like to turn the call back to the operator for the question-and-answer session.

Operator

Thank you. We'll now be conducting our question-and-answer session. If you'd like to be placed in the question queue, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing star one. One moment please, while we poll for questions. Our first question today is coming from Kristine Liwag from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now live.

Kristine Liwag
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hey, good morning, guys.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Morning.

Kristine Liwag
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

I guess afternoon. Sorry. First, congratulations on winning the Boeing Supplier of the Year award. Presumably Boeing would want more of a supply chain to execute like you guys. I mean, to what degree does this recognition potentially unlock expansion of scope of work?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, you know, we're waiting to see how that plays out, Kristine. You know, we're clearly sort of in the winner's circle in terms of new work coming from Boeing. So we, you know, we're working through bids on other products. Boeing is, I guess it's well known that they have a lot of supply chain issues and suppliers that didn't make it through the COVID period for financial reasons or employment reasons or shortage of labor. They're looking to move work. I think we're probably in a very good position to achieve some of that work.

It's just too early to tell, you know, what the ultimate benefit is gonna be. I like-

Kristine Liwag
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

So that's-

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

I like who we are.

Kristine Liwag
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

That's great. If I could do a follow-on question on Dodge. When you look at RBC Bearings historically, you guys have performed and been very defensive across different cycles. I mean, looking back in the past 10 years, gross margins didn't dip below 35%. Even going back to you know data post-IPO, I mean, gross margins never dipped below 30%. Given the uncertain macro backdrop we're facing today, can you provide more color on how Dodge changes the defensibility of your portfolio and how you'd expect them to perform in an industrial recession should we see one? I mean, with the 60% recurring revenue at Dodge, is it more or less defensible on top and bottom line versus RBC Bearings on a legacy basis?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. Well, you know, I think roughly 80%, I'm rounding now, of Dodge's revenues are coming from industrial distributors. Those industrial distributors, if you talk to any one of those industrial distributors, they will tell you that 50% of their revenue is what they call break-fix revenue. There's something broken in one of the plants that they service, and they supply the replacement part to that plant. There's a heavy concentration of Dodge's business associated with this break-fix component of the U.S. infrastructure. That infrastructure is aggregate, it's grain, it's what they call unit handling. It's very integrated into the U.S. GDP. I think that Dodge...

When you look at the Dodge revenues, over that same period, they're lower beta revenues than RBC's because RBC is more direct OEM business, so we might be supplying somebody like a Caterpillar and you know, depending upon what systems you're supplying at Caterpillar, you can be up a lot, you can be down a lot. Dodge doesn't have that variability in their makeup.

Kristine Liwag
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

That's great. With less of that variability in the top line, presumably margins also would be more stable. Is that a fair assessment?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment.

Kristine Liwag
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. I'll pass it on to the next question. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Steve Barger from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now live.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Thanks. Rob, thanks for the explanation on the new adjusted EPS. Just to make sure I understand. When you report 2Q, we'll see a GAAP result, and then the adjusted number that you will focus people to will be comparable to the $1.79 that you referenced for this quarter?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

That's exactly right. Those will be the only two that we'll reflect starting next quarter.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

You would expect consensus to reflect more of that 179 basis points?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

That would be what we would expect.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Got it. That's perfect. I'm gonna ask that industrial question maybe in a slightly different way. When you think about the combined industrial business and how that'll grow relative to the cycle, you know, just to be more quantitative, if IP or industrial production is plus 5%, what would you expect your business to be up? Then same question if IP were to be down 5%.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. Well, I can tell you if IP were up 5%, we would have difficulty supporting all the order book. The order book would be extremely demanding. Actually, when it's above 3%, it's very demanding. 5%, you know, that's probably mirrors with a Purchasing Managers' Index of something like 55-58. That's the-- those kinda track each other. In those neighborhoods, we're as busy as it can get. When it goes -5%, you know, Steve, I really don't wanna think about that.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Well, I mean, you just went through it in the pandemic, right? IP is running about 5% right now. Is the order book hard to keep up with as it stands today?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

The supply chain notwithstanding.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

The order book is still outpacing our ability to deliver. That's mainly a supply chain thing. We certainly have the internal plant capacity, but we are having hiccups, particularly in the Dodge side, not on the RBC side, but on the Dodge side, with supply chain matters. That way, when we do a, you know, revenue guidance, there's an incredible amount of work that goes into the calculus associated with, you know, getting to those revenue numbers. We try to make them conservative, but realistic.

You know, if there's some supply chain breakthroughs, then there'll be a you know, a very pleasant you know, revenue surprise at the end of the quarter. The supply chain problem is getting better as we bring on basically additional suppliers. In some cases, we convert some of the RBC classic plant manufacturing to relieve some of the shortages that we have. That's working better as you introduce it and work it and it matures. I think, but I do think it's gonna be with us for the rest of this year.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yeah. For the revenue guidance for 2Q, how much did you factor in as an offset for supply chain?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, I know what the number is, but I don't wanna tell you.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Is it less than you factored in for your 1 Q guide?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

No, it's the same.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Do you expect Dodge revenue contribution will be up sequentially?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah, I do.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Got it. All right. Thanks. I'll pass it along.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yep.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Seth Weber from Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is now live.

Seth Weber
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Hey, good afternoon, guys. I wanted to ask, the margins were actually better than what we were looking for, both on the gross margin and EBITDA margin. I'm just trying to understand, you know, maybe where you're at from a price cost perspective. Would you expect price cost to be getting better, you know, through the balance of the year? Are you on the positive side of that? Just, you know, any framework you can give us for what you saw in the first quarter relative to expectations for the rest of the year. Thanks.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. Well, you know, I think price cost is going to get better, particularly as it relates to supply chain. You know, in half of Dodge's cost of sales in rough numbers are supply chain supplied. And so there's transportation expense in there. In the past quarter, there's you know, air freight from Asia there. That's going away. And the cost of diesel seems to be moderating. So the transportation expense should calm down. We see the prices of some of the basic commodities, you know, backing off. So, you know, that's telling us that that cost pressure should be relieved as time goes on. We didn't see any relief in the first quarter.

We're not planning to see any material relief in the second quarter.

Seth Weber
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Okay. Would you keep the price increases that you're pushing through even in a lower input costs environment?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, I mean, we'd have to, you know, evaluate it product by product and account by account and see where it all comes out. You know, that's a hard question to answer. We would in some-

Joe Ritchie
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

We would in some cases, and we'd probably back down in other cases. It's very tactical.

Joe Ritchie
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yeah. Okay. Just my follow-up question. You've mentioned now for a couple quarters adding capacity on the aero side, and I think I heard you kind of reference adding some capacity on the defense side as well. Can you just put some timing around that? It sounds like defense may be a little bit further out, but when would you expect this extra capacity to start to help you?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, on the aero side, we don't have to add the capacity on the aero side in terms of CapEx and that sort of thing because we were, you know, at a gallop there before the pandemic hit. It looks like we're gonna get back into those grooves. It's really adding manpower.

Joe Ritchie
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

I see.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

That's, you know, these days, that's not easy to do, but it's doable. You have to go out and be creative about where you look for people and how you attract them to your company. That's on the aerospace and the industrial side. That kind of answers that question. On the defense side, yeah, it's a little further out. We have proposals into some of the defense agencies with regard to what we think should be added for capacity. They've been favorably received, and it looks like we'll receive some funding.

Joe Ritchie
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Okay. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, that's star one to be placed into question queue. Our next question is coming from Sam Shasatha from Truist Securities. Your line is now live.

Michael Ciarmoli
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist Securities

Hey, guys. Michael Ciarmoli today. Just hoping, I think you touched on this a little bit regarding pricing, but is there any particular aspect of supply chain, whether it be specific parts or raw materials, where you guys are seeing either increase in lead times or maybe some pressure there? Then kind of building off of that, again, briefly touched on prior, but regarding labor, are you guys finding any additional needs there, bringing on capacity on that front?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. Well, on the labor side, we definitely will have to add labor. You know, this buildup of the 787 production volume is pretty significant for us. So there's you know no way that we're gonna be able to do that without adding labor. But it's a manageable amount of labor requirement. The second part of your question was materials?

Michael Ciarmoli
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist Securities

Yeah, just if you guys are feeling any particular supply chain pressure, whether it be lead times or just pressure, and whether it's any particular parts or raw materials where you might be feeling that?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah, on raw materials, of course, it's titanium. You know, titanium is always an issue. Depending upon who you're working for, you know, it can be a challenge, it can be very costly. There's various strategies that we can employ there and do employ by, you know, we can buy. If we're supplying Boeing, we can buy titanium on, you know, from the suppliers at a negotiated price that Boeing had negotiated with that supplier for people like us. Boeing tells us there's absolutely no issue at all with the availability of titanium. They've got that covered. I hope they're right.

You know, with regard to some steels, you know, some of the steels are pretty exotic and pretty sophisticated, and lead times on some of the steels are, you know, out a year, 50 weeks. Some of the important steels are made by people who went bankrupt and are barely staying alive. Some of the big plane makers and their subcontractors, larger subcontractors, are doing some extraordinary things to keep those people alive. You know, that's always a concern.

Michael Ciarmoli
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist Securities

Great. Thank you.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yep.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Joe Ritchie from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now live.

Joe Ritchie
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hi, good afternoon.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Hi, Joe.

Joe Ritchie
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Just a few quick ones for me. I think I recall the last time we chatted, we were anticipating the first half gross margin to be about 100 basis points higher than where you exited, fiscal 2022. It looks like the start to the year has gotten maybe a little bit gone off a little bit slower than expected or below the fourth quarter number. Do you guys still expect the first half GM to be about 100 basis points higher?

Daniel A. Bergeron
Director, VP and COO, RBC Bearings

What do we end up in?

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Yeah, I think that the way we're looking at it is that over the course of the year, we should start to see that improvement, but it's always lumpy during the year. I would expect the second quarter gross margins to look quite similar to the first.

Daniel A. Bergeron
Director, VP and COO, RBC Bearings

Okay.

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Our strongest quarter is Q4, so.

Daniel A. Bergeron
Director, VP and COO, RBC Bearings

Okay, that's helpful. I guess I maybe just kind of parsing out. I know that you guys don't have a lot of international exposure, so probably less affected by FX than a lot of other companies that we cover. I'm just curious, like the industrial organic growth number for this quarter. I didn't hear you guys give it earlier. I mean, we're calculating something like 17%. Is that what you saw come through in the quarter?

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

17.3%.

Daniel A. Bergeron
Director, VP and COO, RBC Bearings

There you go.

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Yeah.

Daniel A. Bergeron
Director, VP and COO, RBC Bearings

Yep.

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

That's mainly because.

Daniel A. Bergeron
Director, VP and COO, RBC Bearings

Okay, great. I'd actually be curious just to hear, you know, any trends that you're seeing in the business as you progress through the quarter. Obviously, 17% is a very healthy number. A lot of concerns out there around, you know, industrial activity slowing. Just any thoughts around what you're seeing in that business and any trends that you saw inter-quarter? Well, I think we have a few really good key markets that are doing well. Construction and mining, semi con, oil and gas. At the same time, I think we're starting to see some activity from our synergy on cross-training Dodge's sales team and RBC's sales team.

With a 17.3% growth rate on industrial, mainly in the U.S., I mean, we're more than double of any of our competitors on the growth rate year-over-year with the quarter we're going up against. For us, the big markets, like I said, are construction and mining, so that'd be the Caterpillar, Komatsu of the world, oil and gas, semiconductor, general industrial distribution. Just without Dodge, our general industrial distribution business was up 11.6% organically, and our OEM business was up 21%. Okay, that's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Ronald Epstein from Bank of America. Your line is now live.

Ronald Epstein
Managing Director and Senior Aerospace and Defense Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah. Hey, Mike. Good afternoon. Good morning, all.

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Hey, Ron. Hello.

Ronald Epstein
Managing Director and Senior Aerospace and Defense Analyst, Bank of America

Just a couple quick financial questions. Is the plan to still pay down $300 million of debt this year?

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

The plan is to accomplish $300 million this year, $400 million cumulatively since the acquisition. That's right.

Ronald Epstein
Managing Director and Senior Aerospace and Defense Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, great. Super, super. I guess, you know, another thing that kinda came out in the release. I mean, what's being done to address the material weakness in the financial controls?

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. We're taking it internally. We are reevaluating the processes that are in place regarding employment contracts as they relate to compensation, and we'll be adding additional controls regarding the legal and accounting review and prior to the time of grant.

Ronald Epstein
Managing Director and Senior Aerospace and Defense Analyst, Bank of America

Gotcha. Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is a follow-up from Steve Barger from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now live.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hey, thanks, guys. Was there anything outside of Shanghai and supply chain that impacted 1Q revenue? Like, was there any FX impact?

Robert Sullivan
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Very minimal FX impact during the period. All things considered, obviously the European rates moved the way they did. The notes that Mike hit on were the bigger drivers.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Can you remind me if anything changed around seasonality for 3Q with Dodge included? I think historically it typically steps down a touch from 2Q before the ramp to the 4Q peak.

Daniel A. Bergeron
Director, VP and COO, RBC Bearings

The same. You can expect they're gonna have the same holiday seasons that we have, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and it's the shortest amount of production days for both companies.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yeah. Okay. You know, historically, Roll's been really good at taking an analytical approach to things. As you look across your end markets and your existing customers, do you see more value right now in going after more wallet share or in entering new markets? Because presumably the former has a higher returns than the latter.

Daniel A. Bergeron
Director, VP and COO, RBC Bearings

Well, you know, we have a lot of new products coming through the system. Almost too many in terms of, I mean, you can't get behind all of them, you know, and you have to pick the big winners. Right now, as far as Dodge is concerned, we're sorting through, you know, what they have for product development, which is extensive, and which products. How mature are their developments? How far along is the product technically, and how far along are we in terms of understanding the market need? You know, what's scalable in terms of those products? That's the process that we're going through right now with Dodge. I'll tell you, it's keeping us busy.

There's a lot of wood to cut there. I think in terms of adding new products to the existing market channels is a very good

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

A recipe for success as it certainly applies to Dodge. Now RBC on the other hand has, you know, to a large extent, particularly in aerospace and defense, completely different lineup in terms of customers and market channels. So we've kind of gone through the RBC agenda over the years and know which ones are the ones to back. It's pretty much product introduction to existing markets. I think secondarily to that is how do you map RBC across Dodge's industrial markets so that you're actually, you know, picking up revenue by introducing new accounts to existing products.

That's, you know, those are the two big legs on the stool that we're working on right now.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Realistically, how long does it take to effectively complete that mapping process? Is that years or quarters?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

We're quite. Well, I mean it never ends, Steve. It really never ends. Because there's always, you know, there's always more coming through. We're quite far along on some of these programs in terms of Dodge's program. Others are at the initial stage at the end of their technical development, but at the beginning of their market assessment. Yeah, I think we're gonna have some good things to talk about.

Steve Barger
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. Just one more. Just looking at the segments, will Aerospace always have intrinsically higher incremental margin than Industrial, or should they be even over time?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

They tend to be quite close over time. You know, it obviously depends on the period and what's going on. If you look at the history, they're really not that far apart.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Pete Skibitski from Alembic Global Advisors. Your line is now live.

Pete Skibitski
Director, Aerospace and Defense Equity Research Analyst, Alembic Global Advisors

Hi, guys. Sorry, I had some trouble getting into the queue there. Yeah, Mike, maybe just to start, on the Shanghai plant, just revenue-wise, has the plant reopened again as of, you know, the start of 2Q?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yes, it has.

Pete Skibitski
Director, Aerospace and Defense Equity Research Analyst, Alembic Global Advisors

It has. Okay. We should gain that revenue back. Would you guys be willing to quantify the impact of the, I think you called it, unusual freight misstep in the quarter?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

That impact was somewhere between $2 million and $4 million.

Pete Skibitski
Director, Aerospace and Defense Equity Research Analyst, Alembic Global Advisors

Okay. The issue has been. Sounds like a one-time issue.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. You know, it's an unusual issue for this particular forwarder. It hasn't happened in the past that anybody could remember. We're getting involved with why it happened this time and what we can do to help.

Pete Skibitski
Director, Aerospace and Defense Equity Research Analyst, Alembic Global Advisors

Got it. Okay. No, fair enough. Maybe on industrial to kind of switch the metric a little bit from, you know, from IP. In the past, Mike, you've talked about PMIs a lot and, you know, it's great when PMIs are above 55, and we've seen a little bit of deceleration recently. I'm just wondering, as we sit here in August, over the last, you know, month plus, are there any signs of deceleration in demand at all for your industrial end markets or is it just not really something that's visible right now?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Certainly for classic RBC, we're definitely not seeing it. We're not seeing any deceleration. In Dodge, it's their business is lumpy and, you know, but when we look at the markets that they serve, you know, aggregate, in the aggregate market, from what our field people are telling us, there's no capacity left by aggregate producers. They're 100% full. We have now this infrastructure program coming through that's going to, you know, throw gasoline on the fire. Grain is grain. You know what's going on in the world with grain. The farmers are, you know, running their machinery and breaking things and needing replacement.

Our food products have been really well accepted by the industry, and that's a growth leg for us that's in its early stages. We have been, you know, we have a lot of demand for these new products out of Dodge that address the manufacturer of food. You know, we think that those markets are gonna continue. We haven't seen them let up. We have seen some backing off of what they call unit handling as a result of Amazon canceling building what, 40 or 50 different warehouses. There's been some back up there, but that's frankly probably gonna expand our margins.

Pete Skibitski
Director, Aerospace and Defense Equity Research Analyst, Alembic Global Advisors

Okay. I appreciate all that color. Last one for me. You guys are still expecting to generate $400 million in adjusted EBITDA this year. Is that on track?

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, certainly with the first quarter, we're trending in that direction. Yeah.

Pete Skibitski
Director, Aerospace and Defense Equity Research Analyst, Alembic Global Advisors

Okay. Great. Thanks, guys.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We've reached the end of our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Dr. Hartnett for any further closing comments.

Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Okay. Well, I appreciate the involvement of everybody in the questions today. Thanks again for your interest in RBC Bearings and participation in the call, and we'll speak again in October. Good day.

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.

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