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Earnings Call: Q3 2015

Feb 3, 2015

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the RBC Bearings Fiscal 2015 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. My name is Tia, and I'll be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. We will have a question-and-answer session towards the end of this conference. If at any time you require operator assistance, press star zero, and an operator will be happy to assist you. I will now like to turn the call over to your host for today, Mr. Michael Cummings at Alpha IR Group. Please proceed.

Michael Cummings
Partner, President and General Manager, Alpha IR Group

Thank you. Good morning and thank you for joining us today for the RBC Bearings Fiscal 2015 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. On the call today will be Dr. Michael J. Hartnett, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Daniel Bergeron, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before beginning today's call, let me remind you that some of the statements made today will be forward-looking and are made under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Actual results may differ materially from those projected or implied due to a variety of factors. We refer you to RBC Bearings' recent filings with the SEC for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact the company's future operating results and financial condition. These factors are also described in greater detail in the press release and on the company's website. In addition, reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial information is included as part of the release and is available on the company's website. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Dr. Hartnett.

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Thank you, Mike, and good morning, and welcome to everyone. Today we'll follow the same format as we normally do. I'll provide some highlights for the quarter, and Dan Bergeron will provide the color. Net sales for the third quarter fiscal 2015 were $106.3 million versus $100.5 million for the same period last year, a 5.7% increase. Our industrial markets increased 13.9% on a year-over-year basis, and our aircraft and defense products were basically flat with the corresponding quarter last year.

For the third quarter fiscal 2015, sales of industrial products represented 46% of our net sales, with aerospace and defense at 54%. Adjusted gross margins for the period came in at 39.2% versus 38.3% in fiscal 2014. Adjusted operating margins were 20.9% for the quarter versus 19.6% for the same period last year.

Our third quarter of fiscal 2015 showed the industrial OEM business up 13.9% from the same period last year. Relative to the industrial distribution, we demonstrated an organic growth of 10.6% across a broad number of products. Again, Europe was the standout in growth for us in this segment, up 37% year-over-year. Demand for our products from industrial OEM customers was up a strong 15.9% from last year.

This was driven by the markets of oil and gas, mining and construction, as well as demand over a wide range of industrial markets in the United States. We, like everyone else, are waiting to see how the current price of oil affects the custom ers in the E&P sector.

We are closely watching the capital plans of the majors to determine the extent of the downturn, and we are seeing reports of 30% to 40% reduction in capital budgets of the majors, but we think it's still early in the game. We don't expect to see an impact on our revenues until the second quarter of fiscal 2016 at the earliest. This sector represents about 5% of our revenues. Many of the products we supply are consumed on a daily basis in the recovery of oil and won't be affected. Others are used in the development of the well site and will be impacted.

In any event, we estimate less than a $5 to 10 million per year impact on consolidated revenues through fiscal 2016, after which our plan is to see growth through new product introductions. On mining, the revenue base we saw forming in the second quarter demonstrated itself in the third quarter with steady demand, and the driver was principally the aftermarket. Relative to our aerospace and defense business, these markets were flat relative to last year. Aero distribution showed a contraction of 4.3%, and the OEM side expanded approximately 0.5%.

The largest reasons for the contraction in distribution is the business moving from this channel to the OEM channel. Sales to defense customers contracted as a result of lumpy demand in defense helicopter and completion of some programs in ground defense. We are expecting a renewal in the ground defense programs mid to late next year. Our sales to aircraft OEMs were up 8%.

Today, we are busy preparing for further growth as the 787 program increases its volume and the A350 airframe comes online, and RBC has significant content in both of these programs. Adjusted gross margin for the third quarter fiscal 2015 was $41.6 million or 39.2% compared to $35.8 million or 38.3% for the same period last year. The margin expansion is the result of favorable mix and improvement in manufacturing methods. We did end the third quarter of fiscal 2015 with $119.2 million in cash and short-term investments.

We ended the third quarter of fiscal 2015 with $217 million in backlog compared to $218.4 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2014. With a greater component of our sales coming from the industrial businesses than in previous quarters, this is expected as that business has shorter lead times or, like industrial distribution, the nature of which is that the sales are satisfied immediately from inventory, and those numbers never reach backlog.

Also, there are a considerable number of supply agreements on the aircraft side of the house that are now passing through our contract cycle, and we expect those will be hitting the backlog in future quarters. We are expecting to see sales in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 in the neighborhood of $115 million with historically similar margins relative to previous year-end quarters. We don't expect to see much of an impact on revenues or margins due to currency valuation changes. These are both small headwinds and tailwinds in this regard.

There are small headwinds and tailwinds in this regard, but the net effect on consolidated revenues and margins is minimal. Most of our sales and purchases are in dollars. Those contracts in other currencies either have currency collars or have a limited impact on consolidated results. I will now turn the call over to Dan, who can provide more details on financial performance.

Daniel Bergeron
VP and CFO, RBC Bearings

Hey, thanks, Mike. Since you already discussed sales and gross margin, I'll jump down to SG&A. SG&A for the third quarter of fiscal 2015 increased $1 million to $19.3 million compared to $18.3 million for the same period last year. As a percentage of net sales, SG&A was 18.1% for the third quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to 18.2% for the same period last year.

The increase in SG&A year-over-year was mainly due to an increase of $0.6 million associated with incentive stock compensation expense and $0.4 million in other items. Other operating expenses for the third quarter of fiscal 2015 were an expense of $1.8 million compared to an expense of $0.6 million for the same period last year.

For the third quarter fiscal 2015, other operating expenses consisted mainly of $1.5 million associated with acquisition activity, $0.1 million in costs associated with the consolidation and restructuring of our UK facility, which is completed, and $0.4 million of amortization of intangibles offset by $0.2 million of other income. Further explanation of the $1.5 million acquisition activity in the third quarter of fiscal 2015, the company incurred $1.5 million in legal fees, accounting, tax, and environmental due diligence expenses on an investigation of a large acquisition target.

The company was not successful and when the final bid in the auction process. When we get to the Q&A session, just keep in mind we are under a nondisclosure agreement there, so we cannot discuss who the target was.

Operating income was $20.6 million for the third quarter fiscal 2015 compared to operating income of $19.7 million for the same period in fiscal 2014. Excluding the costs associated with the consolidation restructuring and the acquisition activity, operating income would have been $22.2 million for the third quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to an adjusted $19.7 million for the same period last year. Excluding these adjustments, operating income as a percentage of net sales was 20.9% for the third quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to 19.6% for the same period last year.

Income tax expense for the third quarter fiscal 2015 was $6.1 million compared to $6.6 million for the same period last year. Our effective income tax rate for the third quarter fiscal 2015 was 30.3% compared to 34% for the same period last year.

The effective income tax rate for the third quarter of fiscal 2015 includes discrete tax benefits of $0.7 million. The effective income tax rate without these discrete tax benefits would have been 33.7% compared to 34% for the same period last year. For the third quarter fiscal 2015, the company reported net income of $14.1 million compared to net income of $12.8 million for the same period last year.

Excluding the after-tax impact of costs associated with consolidation restructuring and acquisition activities and the discrete tax benefits, net income would have been $14.4 million for the third quarter fiscal 2015 compared to net income of $12.8 million for the same period last year. Diluted earnings per share was $0.60 per share for the third quarter fiscal 2015 compared to $0.55 per share for the same period last year.

Excluding the after-tax impact of costs associated with consolidation restructuring, acquisition activity, and the discrete tax benefits, diluted earnings per share for the third quarter fiscal 2015 would have been $0.62 per share compared to an adjusted EPS of $0.55 per share for the same period last year, an increase of 12.7%. Turning to cash flow, the company generated $17.7 million in cash from operating activities in the third quarter fiscal 2015 compared to $14.4 million for the same period last year.

On a nine-month basis for fiscal 2015, the company generated $62.4 million in cash from operating activities compared to $36 million for the same period last year. Capital expenditures were $4.4 million in the third quarter fiscal 2015 compared to $8 million for the same period last year, and on a nine-month basis for fiscal 2015, capital expenditures were $15.9 million compared to $22.6 million for the same period last year. In the fourth quarter, the company expects capital expenditures to be in the range of $3 to 6 million.

On a nine-month basis, the company paid a cash dividend of $46 million. We purchased common stock of $7.1 million. The company ended the third quarter fiscal 2015 with $19.2 million in cash and $9.1 million in debt on the balance sheet. I'd like now to turn the call to the operator to begin the Q&A session.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, press star one. If your question hasn't been answered or you wish to withdraw your question, press star two. Questions will be taken in the order received. Again, that is star one to begin. The first question comes from analyst Edward Marshall with Sidoti. Please proceed.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti

Hey, guys. Good morning.

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Morning.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti

How's it going? So I wanted to maybe look into the guidance that you provided for the fourth quarter or the range for sales. And I guess looking at maybe both components, industrial and aerospace, do you anticipate that aerospace first will continue a decline into the fourth quarter, or is that just something that was timing around the helicopter orders that you mentioned?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

I'm just trying to think of the component buildup. No, I think aerospace will be up a little bit in the fourth quarter. I don't have that broken out yet.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti

Okay. So, it looks like so if that's the case, it looks like industrials will come off that mid-teens growth rate that you've seen for the first three quarters of this year and probably fall into a single-digit rate based on kind of the year-over-year comps?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. I think that's basically true. I think on the aircraft side, we've certainly given the fact that Boeing's plane build rate was up 14% to 15% year-over-year, and Airbus was virtually flat, we're expecting to see next year Airbus move their numbers up, and we're expecting to see some additional platforms and engine models that we've developed new products for come on. So, I think we're going to plateau for a couple of quarters here, and then we're back up to growth on the aircraft side.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti

I see. Just a point of clarification, I think when you were talking about the aerospace division, you were talking about ground defense in that segment. I thought that ran through industrials. Is that right, or were you just is it actually in the aerospace division?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

It's a different vehicle. It's called Bradley that actually runs through the aerospace side. The one that runs through the industrial side is the MRAP. In the business, we do AxleTech.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti

Okay. And then finally, I guess the energy component, and you gave a lot of color there. Have you seen any declines in the business as of yet or the order book? And I know it's kind of newer for you, so probably you don't have quite the feel for it, but maybe you can kind of talk about maybe elaborate on what you provided already in your prepared remarks as to what you anticipate, the timing, etc.

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, we've seen a decline from some customers, and we've seen an increase from other customers. The decline is from customers who are in the well development area, and the increase is in the customers who are in the recovery side. So far, so good on that. We're anticipating, just given what we see for the capital plans, that that business is going to be off until oil gets back to a better price per barrel. So how long that's going to be, we're thinking 12-18 months. But frankly, no one knows, and we don't know any better than anybody else.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti

I see. Okay. Thanks.

Operator

The next question comes from Walter Liptak with Global Hunter. Please proceed.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Industrials Analyst, Global Hunter

Thanks. Good morning, guys.

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Morning, Walt.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Industrials Analyst, Global Hunter

I wanted to ask about, to see if we can get a little bit more detail on the aerospace and your comments on Boeing. What are you thinking about now with the supply chain and production rates for some of the aerospace? It's been a little bit volatile. Are we expecting it to improve into March? Or is it going to be beyond that before we start getting better growth in that market?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

I think Boeing's production numbers year-over-year for calendar 2014 to calendar 2013, we're up, what, 14% to 15%. And we're expecting, and they're publishing, that they're planning to be pretty flat for the next year and then move up, particularly in the 787 and 737 build rates for the year after that. So, it looks to me like they're trying to get their vendors to sort of consolidate and get into a production cadence before they take that next step. So, we don't see we think we're going to be sort of even with Boeing for the next year and then up from there.

And Airbus, they're expecting to grow somewhere around 10% year-over-year. I don't remember the exact number, but it's in that 60-plane range. And so, we have more content on Airbus than we had in the past. So, we expect to see some growth, particularly coming from the European side.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Industrials Analyst, Global Hunter

Okay. Okay. Sounds good. If I could switch gears and ask about the transformational acquisition. I guess maybe to not get into the NDA portion of it, but what sector of the industrial economy was it? Was it industrial? Do they have industrial and aerospace? What kind of size do you think of as transformational? And are there other such deals that you're seeing out there?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

There are other such deals that we're seeing out there. Transformational size would be about the size that we are today. We like the industrial and the aerospace space depending upon the nature of the customer base.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Industrials Analyst, Global Hunter

Okay. Okay. Very good. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from analyst Steve Barger with KeyBanc. Please proceed.

Hi. Good morning. It's Ken Newman on for Steve.

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Morning.

Morning. I was just curious if you could dig into the gross margins by sector, industrial versus aero. Did you see margins in either of those segments move materially in this past quarter? Trying to get a sense of where you expect margins for aero to go going forward.

Yeah. Ken, I'm just trying to think of business by business where we saw the margins move the most. I think we probably saw the margins move the most in some of our well, it was actually both defense and industrial is where we made some real margin progress. And I think in both cases, that was related to methods improvements in the way we produce these products. So do we work on that every week with the divisions. And the divisions have objectives of margin expansion.

And they have in order to expand margins in an industry like this, it requires a considerable amount of skill in terms of manufacturing technique and know-how and design technique and know-how. And most of our major divisions have those skill sets.

And so they have the targets that they need in order to in order to achieve the margin expansion goals that we've set for them. And they do a pretty good job getting us there. So that's just the way that's just the way we make our bread here. And it's been the culture of the company for the last 20 years. And I would say that now, a lot of our major divisions are better at it than they've ever been. I mean, they've played the game so many times that they're getting very expert at execution. So I think our margins are safe, and I would hope that there's a few points of upside there.

Ken Newman
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc

Gotcha. And then I think a few quarters ago, you had mentioned some large volume expectations associated with a few narrow-body airframes starting in 2016 and really ramping up in 2018. I think those were the neo and the MAX specifically. We've been hearing some murmurs about those orders for airframes weakening or being delayed with the new oil environment making operating these older models more cost-efficient. Just curious, have you seen any evidence of this? And if you have, what kind of impact does it have on your forward delivery expectations?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

We've seen no evidence of it at all. I think both Boeing and Airbus' order book is so deep, I don't imagine that that's much of an effect a factor for them either.

Ken Newman
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc

Gotcha. I'll get back online. Thanks.

Operator

Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, that is star one. The next question comes from Walter Liptak with Global Hunter. Please proceed.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Industrials Analyst, Global Hunter

Okay. So, I wanted to ask about Europe and the reload that you've done out there. Where are we in terms of starting to see some benefits from that labor arbitrage?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Oh, we're in a good spot. I mean, you're talking about our Poland operation, Mielec?

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Industrials Analyst, Global Hunter

Yeah. That's correct. Right.

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. We're in a good spot. I mean, the Poland operation is up. It's productive. It's performing. It's beyond its break-even. It's an overall contributor to the good right now. And when you look at how the Swiss franc has strengthened and how the Polish złoty kind of tracks with the euro, we kind of look like geniuses. So, we have big plans for that plant going forward, and we are accelerating them.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Industrials Analyst, Global Hunter

Okay. How much production is running through there? If you were going to where are you in the reload? What percent do you still have to move over to that plant?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Well, let's see. We're probably using about 20% of the plant right now. So, we're at the very early stages of utilization. We've gone through the difficult period of hiring people, training them, relocating them to Switzerland for additional training, putting them back in Poland for production activities, and getting schedule in place, getting tooling in place, getting machines in place, and getting that all to work in an environment that's beyond break-even.

So, there's a lot of work behind us. And I think right now, we definitely have the wind at our back on that plant. We have a good operation. We have a first-class facility. We have a small but highly trained workforce. And now, we can start scaling it up.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Industrials Analyst, Global Hunter

Okay. With the way that the franc and the zloty have moved, is the gross margin impact larger than what you first thought?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. I mean, from that perspective, it should be. We don't like the way the franc's moved relative to the euro from a competitive point of view on some of the other product lines. So that's some of the things that we're dealing with.

Walter Liptak
Managing Director and Senior Industrials Analyst, Global Hunter

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Operator

The next question comes from analyst Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Ken Newman
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc

Hey. Thanks for circling back. Last quarter, you mentioned some strength in the mining MRO sector. Cat earlier lowered its sales guidance for mining because of low commodity prices and increasing efficiency from customers. Your comments were a little more optimistic on mining. Could you characterize activity levels and how it's changed over the past few months?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

I think if anything, it's just stabilized. We saw that mining MRO side come back. I think Cat's problem is that they can't live on their MRO. There are no OEM manufacturers. It's got to sell new machinery to cover their overheads and all that. So that's a little bit different situation. But we've seen stable demand, and it's stabilized now for the second quarter in a row. So we're feeling good about that. And we don't see anything happening in the near term that's going to change that.

Ken Newman
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc

Got it. Then you mentioned some solid strengths in the European markets this quarter. I was curious if you could just talk about what's been the main driver of growth in that market. Has the strategy changed at all in that region for you guys going forward?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. Well, I think there's a couple of aspects for growth that are favorable to us. First of all, when the US is making a lot of cars, and they're making a lot of cars now, they use a lot of machinery, machine tools. And all their subsuppliers also have a population of machine tools. A lot of those machine tools are made in Switzerland. And so, the machine tools that are made in Switzerland, some of the designs have our tooling specified. And so, as the US volume of automobile production goes up, the consumable tooling that we supply goes up with it.

So, although we might be selling those tools to OEMs that produce the machines in Switzerland, those machines are consumed in the United States. So, we're seeing some increased demand from that standpoint, which has been favorable.

And I think, secondly, we have some new products that go into the high-speed train, high-speed rail. And the Chinese have become very big fans of these products. And so, we see our industrial business growing in China as a result of that. And so, I think those are the two of the main drivers of that business that immediately come to mind.

Ken Newman
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc

Got it. And then just one more, if I could. RBC is typically pretty good at keeping price on industrial products. Are you seeing any areas where the customers are pushing for price concessions, or are the distributors telling you the price is too high?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. We've had customers telling us that for at least the last 30 years. They haven't let up. I think it's part of the DNA when they hire new purchasing people or purchasing people go to seminars. They're always trained to say, "Well, you're 10% high. If you came off that 10%, we could probably do business with you." It's part of the culture. Some periods, it's more intense than others. Some markets, it's more intense than others.

We have some intensity in some markets and some lack of intensity in other markets today. We have to learn how to deal with it. We work hard at trying to understand that and try to train our people on methods and techniques of negotiation so that we can get a fair price for a good product.

Ken Newman
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc

I mean, I guess, in general, you're not too worried about having to give up on price going forward?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

You always worry about that. I don't think it's material. But I particularly don't like to do it. And I think everybody here knows that.

Ken Newman
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc

Thanks.

Operator

The next question comes from Edward Marshall with Sidoti. Please proceed.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti

Guys, I just wanted to clarify. You mentioned the size of an acquisition, and you gave kind of a range of something similar to the size of you. I wanted to clarify. Are you talking about your enterprise value, your sales, both?

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Sales. Sales.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti

Sales. Okay. And when you broke out the costs associated with the acquisition-related expenses, generally, you do most of the due diligence internally, I guess, partially because of the size. Are you seeking outside assistance as well going through this? Or I'm just curious.

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Yeah. On a typical small deal, we do all the work internally. But when you look at a deal of that size and magnitude, then you need to bring in assistance to help you.

Edward Marshall
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sidoti

Okay. That's really difficult. Okay. Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, again, if you would like to ask a question, that is star one. There are no questions in queue at this time. I will now like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.

Michael Hartnett
Chairman, President, and CEO, RBC Bearings

Okay. Thank you. I'd like to thank everybody for participating in the call today. I hope it was good for you. We're happy with the performance in the quarter. We're going to go back to work and see if we can't do even better. Thanks for your day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. That concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect.

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