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Earnings Call: Q4 2018

Feb 14, 2019

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Regency Centers Corporation fourth quarter 2018 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Laura Clark, Vice President, Capital Markets. Thank you. You may begin.

Laura Clark
VP of Capital Markets, Regency Centers

Good morning, and welcome to Regency's fourth quarter 2018 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Hap Stein, our Chairman and CEO, Lisa Palmer, our President and CFO, Mac Chandler, EVP of Investments, Jim Thompson, EVP of Operations, Mike Mas, Managing Director of Finance, and Christian Leavitt, SVP and Treasurer. On today's call, we may discuss forward-looking statements. Such statements involve risk and uncertainty. Actual future performance, outcomes, and results may differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statements. Please refer to our filings with the SEC, which identify important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from those contained in the forward-looking statements. We will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. We've provided a reconciliation of these measures to their comparable GAAP measures in our earnings release and financial supplement, which can be found on our investor relations website.

Before turning the call over to Hap, I would like to give you a quick overview of today's call, as it will be a little different. Hap will take you through our 2018 highlights and strategic objectives. Jim will then discuss portfolio fundamentals, followed by a walkthrough of the components of same-property NOI growth and 2019 same-property NOI guidance. Lisa will present our 2019 earnings guidance and roll forward. We will be utilizing a slide presentation for a portion of today's call. You can view the presentation through the webcast link or in the Presentation section of our investor relations website at regencycenters.com. Hap?

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Thanks, Laura. Good morning, everyone. Regency's exceptional team produced another year of sector-leading performance. Through the team's talent and efforts, we executed our proven strategy by proactively and creatively managing our portfolio, building value through development and redevelopment, fortifying our balance sheet, and cost-effectively funding new investments. Highlights from a successful 2018 include same-property portfolio was at 96% leased and NOI growth at or above 3.4% for the seventh consecutive year. We expertly executed on our capital allocation strategy, which starts with reinvesting our $170 million of free cash flow and modest level of sales of lower growth assets into nearly $200 million of developments and redevelopments. Acquisitions with superior growth prospects and nearly $250 million of share repurchases at an average price of less than $58 per share, all supported by Regency's blue-chip balance sheet.

This year also marked an important milestone with the release of our inaugural corporate responsibility report, which showcases our environmental, social, and governance initiatives. Notably, growth in core operating earnings, which eliminates certain one-time and non-cash impacts, have compounded by 7% over the last three years. This translated into roughly comparable growth in cash available for distribution, and in turn, increases to the dividend by over 5% both in 2018 and for 2018 at a low payout ratio. Retailers continue to clearly demonstrate that physical stores located in top trade areas and in thriving centers remain a critical component of a multi-channel strategy. Even though retailers are being deliberate and cautious with expansion, there's really good demand for the limited amount of vacant space in our centers, and renewals are robust.

We are committed to ensuring that our shopping centers remain relevant and convenient distribution channels for successful retailers that will prosper in the evolving marketplace. Our ongoing accomplishments demonstrate the effectiveness of Regency's time-proven strategy to distinguish the company by effectively employing our combination of unequal strategic advantages to successfully achieve our objectives. Our high-quality portfolio, intense asset management, and fresh look philosophy will position Regency to average same-property NOI growth of 3%. Our experienced development and redevelopment capabilities will enable us to deliver over $1.25 billion in developments and redevelopments at attractive returns over the next five years. Our pristine balance sheet and growing free cash flow will cost-effectively fund new investments while providing financial flexibility and access to capital through future cycles as we target debt-to-EBITDA of five times.

I'm extremely confident that collectively, these capabilities will be expertly employed by our amazing team to sustain earnings, cash flow, and dividend growth and, in turn, total shareholder returns that are consistently at or near the top of the shopping center sector. Jim?

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Thanks, Hap. I'm extremely pleased to finish another year with solid same-property NOI growth supported by our high-quality portfolio and executed by our best-in-class team. 2018 same-property NOI growth of 3.4% was driven by a strong 3.7% contribution from base rent. As we discussed on previous calls, offsetting base rent growth was the anticipated one-time impact from tax reassessments that were triggered by the Equity One merger, where we are absorbing almost two years of supplemental real estate tax expense. This one-time event impacted our 2018 operating margins. Going forward, we expect to operate at more normalized margins. As Hap indicated, Regency's portfolio continues to experience healthy demand from top retailers. That said, while retailers continue to be discerning with new store openings, we feel they are making rational decisions that will contribute to healthy supply and demand.

As it relates to Regency Centers, we continue to experience positive and stable trends in move-outs, bad debt, and AR that we attribute to the enhanced quality of our tenants. Rent spreads have settled in the high single digits. At the same time, we are benefiting from successfully incorporating contractual rent increases into leases. Overall, our constructive view of the retail landscape, combined with the underlying fundamentals of our portfolio and the prospects from our redevelopment pipeline, support our expectation to average 3%+ same-property NOI growth over the long term. With that said, I would like to turn your attention to page three in our presentation and begin with a reminder of the components that get us to our 3%+ same-property NOI growth objective. Please follow with me on the left side of the slide.

First, embedded in the portfolio is 1.3% of growth coming from contractual rent increases. Another 1% to 1.2% come from new and renewal leasing rent spreads. Combined, these provide approximately two and a quarter to two and a half percent of growth. Next, given the portfolio is well leased at 96% and 94.5% rent paying, incremental gains from occupancy at these levels should not be expected. Finally, the contribution from redevelopments has typically averaged 75 basis points of annual growth. This growth can be uneven due to the size and timing of redevelopment deliveries. Together, these components equate to our strategic objective of 3%+ average annual same-property NOI growth. I'd like to shift your attention to the right side of the slide.

As we indicated on our third quarter call, we expect this year's same-property NOI growth to be in the range of 2%-2.5%, resulting from a couple of short-term impacts. Looking at rent-paying occupancy, we have one Sears and two Kmart boxes. Two of these leases were on the initial closure list, have closed, and are likely to be rejected. We understand the third box is included in the approved bid for 425 locations and could continue operations. Even so, we still plan to get this box back. Based on the current strong interest from much better operators, we are really looking forward to getting control of the boxes. In addition to Sears, we have incorporated a prudent level of move-out assumptions, and this combined impact is estimated to be slightly more than 50 basis points to same-property NOI growth.

As I mentioned before, the redevelopment contribution to NOI growth has been and will continue to be uneven at times. This could especially be the case given our larger, more transformational projects. The uneven impact from taking NOI offline, as well as the timing of completions, is simply a part of making the right decision to sustain NOI growth and maximize long-term value. In that vein, this year, the contribution is expected to be minimal. More importantly, we are extremely excited about the quality of our expanding pipeline and look forward to enjoying the contributions to growth that will come from these projects in 2020 and beyond. The inherent quality of the portfolio, the visibility of the pipeline, and the focus of the team combine to make me feel really good about the prospects going forward to average 3% NOI growth.

I'll now turn it over to Lisa to continue our 2019 guidance discussion.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Thank you, Jim. Good morning, everyone. First, I'd like to echo Hap and Jim's sentiments around the successes achieved in 2018. It was another extremely gratifying year, the team should feel exceptionally proud of their achievements. We'll continue in the slide deck, I'll take you to page four, where you will find our initial 2019 guidance. For 2019, our FFO per share guidance range is $3.83 to $3.89. This includes a $0.05 per share impact related to the new lease accounting standard, where certain leasing costs that were previously capitalized will now be expensed in G&A. As I've said before, while this accounting change does impact reported earnings, it does not impact AFFO or cash flow, does not have a true economic impact on the business, and will not influence our structure or compensation strategies.

Beginning this year, we are only providing NAREIT FFO guidance as we believe this is the best metric available for comparability across the sector. At the same time, we will continue to measure and report the performance of our business using core operating earnings, which eliminates certain non-recurring and non-cash items. We previously referred to this metric as operating FFO, but going forward, we'll refer to this simply as core operating earnings. Next, as Jim just said, same-property NOI growth is expected to be in the range of 2%-2.5%, which incorporates near-term headwinds related to Sears Kmart, as well as a muted contribution from redevelopments in 2019. From an investment perspective, we expect to start $150 million-$250 million of developments and redevelopments this year, we have good visibility into executing our plan to start $1.25 billion-$1.5 billion over the next five years.

Our acquisition guidance reflects the recent closing of Melrose Market, an exceptional center in a near urban neighborhood of Seattle. The disposition guidance of ±$200 million includes $75 million of property sales that carried over year-end, all of which I'd like to note have already closed, as well as additional sales to fund our fourth quarter share repurchases. Moving to net interest expense, 2019 is expected to be lower, primarily driven by the accretive refinancings executed last year when we proactively took advantage of low interest rates. G&A, as I mentioned earlier, G&A for this year incorporates a $0.05 impact, or approximately $8 million, related to lease accounting. On an apples-to-apples basis, net G&A is essentially flat year-over-year. Non-cash items are expected to decrease from $55 million in 2018 to a range of $41.5 million-$43.5 million in 2019.

As a reminder, in 2018, we recognized a $6 million one-time non-cash item in income related to the acceleration of a below-market rent balance for the one Toys 'R' Us box that we acquired at auction. Moving to page five, which is our guidance roll forward, I'll highlight a few things. First, as always, NOI will be the primary contributor to earnings growth, contributing $0.16 to $0.20 per share. This includes organic growth plus $0.07 to $0.08 per share from NOI coming from development completions. Second, we are providing you with the incremental impacts of transaction and funding activity, including our opportunistic repurchase of nearly $250 million of our stock in 2018.

I think it's important to note that after adjusting for certain non-recurring and non-cash items, even after the impact of the Sears bankruptcy and the muted contribution from redevelopments, core operating earnings per share are expected to grow by 2% to 4% in 2019. Turning to page six, I'd like to quickly review our funding model. Today, we are generating approximately $170 million of free cash flow after CapEx and after dividends. Also, our strategy of selling a modest amount of lower growth assets has and will continue to fortify NOI and NAV growth. Together, free cash flow and dispositions fund our developments and redevelopments, acquisitions with superior growth prospects, and at times, repurchases of our own stock, again, when the pricing and the trade are compelling as they were in 2018.

It's worth emphasizing that the amount of free cash flow that we generate enables us to finance our development and redevelopment spend on essentially a leverage-neutral basis. We've also summarized our two-year capital allocation on the right side of this page. Over the long term, we expect net investment activity to contribute 100 to 200 basis points to our earnings growth. This, along with growing same-property NOI by 3+%, will translate into core operating earnings growth of 5+%. As we look forward to 2019 and beyond, we remain confident in our ability to continue to deliver earnings and dividend growth and total shareholder return at or near the top of the sector. That concludes our prepared remarks, and we now welcome your questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting your question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press *1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press *2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Nicholas Yulico with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

Nicholas Yulico
Analyst, Scotiabank

Oh, thanks. Based on your free cash flow, expected dispositions, and limited acquisitions, it seems like you have plenty of funding for redevelopment and development. I guess, can you just tell us what's the expected spend there and how you're thinking about it as well, if you have leftover cash, what you'd be using it for?

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

As you indicated, $170 million of free cash flow funds our development spend, which is $200 million plus, hopefully it's closer to $300 million. That will contribute 200 basis points to our earnings growth, as Lisa indicated. Then in addition to that, we can decide, does it make sense to recycle, in effect, sell dispositions, sell lower growth assets? To the extent that we sell lower growth assets, we make the decisions, does it make sense to invest in covered land plays, acquisitions with meaningful redevelopment opportunities, or acquisitions just with superior growth prospects and/or buying back our stock.

If the trade we think is favorable as it was when in effect our implied cap rate was north of 6%. Obviously, the tax impact of selling assets is going to play something in that. I think it's also important to note that we front-end loaded $125 million of stock buyback when we bought the stock back in December. In effect, we've got dispositions planned that are going to occur through the remainder of the year that are going to basically fund the stock buyback. Then once that's completed, we'll make a decision, does it make sense to selling additional properties or does it make sense just to stand pat?

One other interesting thing, I think it's important to note, is from Regency's standpoint, even though we like to recycle properties and like to enhance the growth rate and sell lower growth assets, that's something that's nice to have. It's not a must from that standpoint.

Nicholas Yulico
Analyst, Scotiabank

Okay, it's helpful. Just looking at the TIs, they were up meaningfully last year over 30%. What drove that increase and how should we think about the level of spend in 2019? I guess, just specifically related to a recurring CapEx expectation for this year.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

I'll let Jim answer the opening question with regards to what happened in 2018. I'll take the latter part.

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Yeah. On 2018, Nick, really, we performed about as expected. I think the only thing I'd note would be a little bit of tick up in Q4, which was driven by a couple anchor deals that were really relocations, which is a little unusual, but relocations within the existing centers, which were a little expensive. When you look at the full 12 months of 2018, we were actually, I think 15%, 16% lower than 2017. Our spend, we feel real good about the spend, and think we're prudent with our dollars from the capital side on leasing.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Going forward, so 2018 had some unusual activity which pushed our percent as a percent of total capital spend as a percent of NOI above kind of normal run rates. We've been in the 10%-11% of NOI range. Going forward, that will drop to 9%-10% as a result of the lease accounting standard change. Those leasing commissions that were previously capitalized are now expensed and will be in G&A, and that has the result of reducing that down by 1%.

Nicholas Yulico
Analyst, Scotiabank

Okay, thanks. Just wanted a clarification on guidance. Lisa, you went through some of the non-cash items. You had the benefit last year from Toys "R" Us, and even if you remove that, you have your non-cash revenue going down $5 million to $7 million. Is that just all related to burn off of leases as you get through them from the Equity One merger? How should we think about that kind of ongoing impact to your reported NAREIT FFO this year and in future years?

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

To be clear, the decline, about half of it was related to the one-time $6 million charge that you mentioned. After that, of that remaining 50%, half of that, a quarter in total, is a reduction in the benefit from debt mark-to-market amortization. The remainder is a reduction in straight line rent income, primarily with a little bit of the below-market rent. Going forward, we would expect, and we did mention this to you all when we did complete our merger with Equity One and we booked the large below-market rent balance, if you will, that it would create headwinds for a period of time.

Going forward, and for a significant period of time, because the remaining lease term on some of these is actually 20 years, we expect that the decline will be closer to $1 million to $2 million annually for the foreseeable future.

Nicholas Yulico
Analyst, Scotiabank

Appreciate it. Thank you.

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Metz with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Jeremy Metz
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Hey, good morning. In terms of the same-store guide, you're not looking for much redevelopment contribution. You mentioned the offset being NOI coming offline from some of the larger redevelopments. Jim, you had mentioned this can be lumpy. Thinking this through, how much of this have you already pulled offline versus what's still to come? Maybe some color on what that means for your same-store NOI cadence here as we go through 2019.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Just reiterating again, thank you, Jeremy, you sort of put it out there for me in terms of how uneven it is. We've been proactively managing our properties and redeveloping them through active asset management to increase the NOI for a really long time. If you look at the annual impact, it's been a wide range, but it has averaged about 75 basis points. What is unusual about this year, we still have some good stuff coming online that we have worked on in the past few years. There's a larger percentage coming offline. In the past, the offset wasn't equal. We've had more coming online, so more of a benefit than what was coming offline.

This year, it is just that we have got a couple large projects. The most significant being in Boston, which is The Abbot, happy to have Mac or Jim give more detail on that one. After this year, we also have another one that is in the pipeline that is really significant, which is Costa Verde. We do expect that in the very near future, we are going to be pulling almost $5 million of NOI offline for that one. We will continue to have these happen, but we believe that we will average 3% same-property NOI growth over the long term, and we will realize the benefits of those that are coming offline so that in those years, we will go above 3%.

Jeremy Metz
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Yeah, appreciate that. On the occupancy front, your shop occupancy was down year-over-year. Box occupancy was actually up. Your guidance overall is calling for some further pressure here. I think you have about 60 basis points of headwind baked in. How much of that is lower box versus shop occupancy in that? Maybe how much of this is known vacates today with the Kmarts and the Mattress Firms versus an expectation for further tenant fallout?

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Jeremy, I will give you some color on the shop fall off, if you will. Quarter-over-quarter, the 30 basis points was effectively, the BK of Mattress Firm was about 10 basis points, Aaron Brothers, we proactively recaptured that space with offsetting termination fees, so that is 20 basis points. The remainder is, quite frankly, in 2018, we took a very aggressive Regency proactive merchandising asset management philosophy and really attacked primarily the side shop business and cleaned up the portfolio, recapturing space to create upgraded merchandising opportunities in the future, and basically just get that portfolio working as the rest of the portfolio has been in the past. As far as going forward, the major metrics that we are looking at from a historical standpoint, we continue to be 96% leased. We are seeing the pipelines are continuing to be very solid.

Our major metrics of AR bad debt rent relief requests are on par with historical measures. We feel the market is really solid. It continues to perform well, and we think the 92% from a shop standpoint today is a very solid 92% leased.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Just to clarify what Jim said, absolutely. He left out just one thing, and that is that when cleaning up the side shop space, it was in the properties that we acquired from Equity One. The integration, kudos to the team, was extremely smooth. Yes, we closed in March of 2017, but when you are merging with a company, it takes time. It took us time to really understand and get comfortable with the portfolio, and 2018 was when we really did attack, as Jim said, sort of the quality of the tenant base and proactively kind of weeded out weaker tenants, if you will, to bring to the quality standard that Regency likes to operate.

Jeremy Metz
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

All right, thanks.

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Thank you, Jeremy.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Craig Schmidt with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

Craig Schmidt
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Great. Thank you. I guess I'm taking a kind of broader look. It was about two and a half years ago, we saw Sports Authority closed. Since then, we've sort of had headwinds. It sounds like 2019 is going to have headwinds as well. Are you seeing an end of this process, particularly given how strong the consumer was in 2018? Are we kind of looking at a new norm here?

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Craig, I would say that anecdotally, I think there's been a meaningful weeding out. Some of this is just part of the business. As you know, having followed the business for as long as you have, there has been and always will continue to be tenant failures. The key is to try to align yourself with the better best-in-class operators that get it, that have the dollars to, and the financial wherewithal to invest not only in technology, but in the store experience and value, et cetera. That makes up the lion's share of our portfolio. At the same time, there are going to continue to be tenant failures. I don't see anything on the horizon that says I think we've had a little bit of an anomaly. As I said, that's part of the business.

We've averaged over between 95% and 96% leased over the last five to six, even throughout this whole process of Sports Authority, Sears. We expect, and we have strong interest on the Sears box. We feel good about our ability and good about tenant demand and our ability to maintain occupancy in the 95% to 96% range and average 3% plus growth over the long term. I think also the other thing is having locations where when bad news does happen, it does happen, where it's going to be good news, where we can upgrade the merchandising as we will with Sears. More often than not, also replace at a higher rent.

Craig Schmidt
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

When you're talking to your leasing team, do they feel that, generally, beyond these sort of outliers, that they want to open more stores, they're feeling a little bit more aggressive?

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Yeah, Craig, I would say that we continue to see growth in really all the sectors. The better retailers continue to grow their platforms. We see that growth migrating towards better real estate, again, I think that's the sector that plays to our strength. We're seeing across the board good activity and good growth among the retailers.

Craig Schmidt
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay, thank you.

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Thanks, Craig.

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Thanks, Craig.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Christy McElroy with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Christy McElroy
Analyst, Citi

Hi, good morning, everyone. Just on Sears, regarding that third box that you still hope to get back. It seems like from what's coming out that they are willing to sell or close some of those going concern stores. What's sort of your early read of the process there? What's happening? Sounds like you feel pretty good about being able to recapture that box.

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Christy, I'm not sure I feel real good about recapturing it. I guess I'm taking the stance that we have a 50/50 shot that it's going to be in play. The whole process has been a little bit of a funny bankruptcy, to say the least. We strongly believe that the two that are closed and have been on the list since the beginning will be rejected, we suspect, in the near future. That gets us kicked off on those two redevelopment opportunities. The third one, we've had a lot of good activity with retailers as well, and quite frankly, if they end up trying to spin that and sell it, we may be in a bidding war to try to capture that real estate ourselves.

We'll just have to wait and see, but we like all three locations, and we know two of them, or feel confident two of them are going to come back our way and let us get on with life.

Christy McElroy
Analyst, Citi

Okay, thanks for that. I get that it's a fluid process. Given your willingness to do M&A in the past, what would compel you to do another deal? It seems like you have enough in the pipeline here for the next five years or so with $1 billion to $1.5 billion of opportunities. What factors would make M&A a road that you would go down again?

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Well said. Being able to sustain 3% annual NOI growth, deliver $250 million to $300 million of developments, redevelopments a year, should translate to 5%+ earnings growth. That's there. I would say that as we said even before Equity One, bigger is better and better is best. We did feel that Equity One made us a better company. It set a very high bar. When you think about it got us into markets where we expanded our presence in key markets, Boston, New York, and Miami. Expanded our presence in markets where we had a meaningful presence, Atlanta and L.A. and San Francisco. The demographics were consistent and accretive. It was accretive to our NOI growth rate.

It provided a robust redevelopment pipeline. We were able to do that on a leverage neutral basis, which I think given where we are in the cycle, I think that's critically important to make sure that our balance sheet remains very strong. We were able to generate significant synergies, and we've realized those and integrate it, not that it was easy, but integrate it with not too much of a distraction. That's a high bar that we would apply to any future opportunity that's out there.

Christy McElroy
Analyst, Citi

Just for clarification, on that 3% same-store growth, as you embark on some of these larger mixed-use densification projects, will projects like Town and Country and Costa Verde, will they be included or excluded from the same-store pool?

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Town and Country was just recently acquired, that will not be part of the same property pool.

Christy McElroy
Analyst, Citi

Great. Okay.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Costa Verde, we've been discussing this pretty in-depth internally. Because of the magnitude of it really is different than even some of our other larger ones. For example, I mentioned The Abbot, I think we have $1 million coming offline this year, $1 million plus. Costa Verde is $5 million, because of the magnitude of that, at this point in time, we're planning on removing it from the same property pool. We'll be very clear with that and be very transparent. Doing it because we believe that it really dilutes sort of the quality of the metric, if you will, for what you all

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

When you're taking it offline, when you add it back.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Yes. We won't get the benefit when it comes back on either. That is the reverse side of the coin. We won't take it down, but we also won't be adding it back when we bring it back online. Beyond Costa Verde, at this point in time, we're planning on keeping everything else in the same property pool.

Christy McElroy
Analyst, Citi

Okay. Makes sense. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Richard Hill with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Mr. Hill, your line is live.

Richard Hill
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Sorry about that, guys. I was on mute. I wanted to follow up on Christy's comment about M&A, but maybe take it a little bit of a different direction. Hap, you had mentioned maybe covered land plays, development opportunities. You're obviously generating a fair amount of NOI off of development and redevelopment. Is there any areas of the country that maybe you're not in right now where you might want to get in, and you could do that and maybe that would lead to more full-scale M&A? How are you thinking about that? I guess the question I'm asking is if there are any areas of the country that you're not currently in or only have small footprints in that if you could, you would make a bigger splash?

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

When you look at the canvas under which we're able to own, operate, and develop, we really like it, and we already have a meaningful presence in those markets. It includes gateway markets, San Francisco, L.A., New York, Miami, Chicago. It includes 18-hour cities like Atlanta and Houston. It includes STEM markets like Seattle, Austin, and Raleigh. Includes growth markets like key markets in Florida. I could have included San Diego and Denver, and the STEM markets are in the growth markets. We already have, and we have market offices in a lion's share of those 2 dozen markets that we're in. We could average, so to speak, enhance our presence in some of those markets where we don't have as big a presence today. I'm not sure that there's going to be an opportunity that's going to totally drive a major merger.

I want to say that you don't take your eye off the ball. Number 1, we want to keep the eye on the ball as far as our basic business. You don't ignore which may be out there, but our bar is very, very high, and we feel really good about the markets we're in. We feel really good about our future prospects, and it would take something pretty meaningful to cause us to do something. I don't see an opportunity out there that would say, okay, we've got 3% of our asset footings in Boston today. That would take it to 6%. I think we're going to grow that from the redevelopment and development of projects like The Abbot.

Richard Hill
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you very much, Hap. Guys, I really appreciate the transparency. You do a great job with it, so thank you.

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Thank you.

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Thank you.

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Greatly appreciated.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Derek Johnston with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Derek Johnston
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Good morning, thank you. I was just going to follow up on the Sears question briefly. You might have mentioned this, but can you remind us of the mark-to-market potential on the Sears boxes? You said there was some interest. Would this be a single tenant, or would you be breaking them up? What are you thinking there?

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Derek, we're obviously investigating several different redevelopment opportunities. As we always do, we would expect those redevelopment opportunities to fall in the 7%-9% return range. As to some of the interest, TJX, HomeGoods, REI, Burlington, we've got two of the centers that have very highly productive grocers that have expressed interest in expansion or total relocation within the redevelopment. We're pursuing a lot of different avenues at this point. Suffice it to say, the level of interest and activity is very strong, we're plowing through that to really figure out the best long-term direction to create the most long-term value and the ability to remerchandise these centers to bring them up to par.

Derek Johnston
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, I guess my second one is how do you see recycling as far as the bottom tier non-core 1%-2% of assets annually and utilizing those proceeds for development and redevelopment spending? You guys already have a best-in-class demographic metrics. At some point, do you think there's a level of diminishing returns here, and particularly in terms of the resulting same-property NOI and FFO growth? At what point does it become a less attractive funding mechanism? Is this the reason for share repurchases?

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Well, I think the key thing that it starts with $170 million of free cash flow, which basically funds $200 million free and clear, and could fund $250 million-$300 million of development and redevelopment spend on essentially a leverage neutral basis. We take a look at capital recycling starts with assets that are lower growth assets. As I said earlier, this is not something that we have to do given the inherent, as you indicated, and thank you for indicating it, the inherent quality of the portfolio. We have made that decision, and we'll continue to evaluate it, and it has been a key part of our strategy. It's an optional part of our strategy, and we will continue to evaluate, are there assets that we want to sell where there's meaningfully low growth?

Is there a better opportunity to reinvest that capital, either in a shopping center with much higher growth profile, with some type of future redevelopment opportunity, or maybe a covered land play? The opportunity, as we did at the end of last year, where in effect we front-end loaded it, but where we sold stock on the basis of the visibility that we think that we can as far as selling properties, like meaningfully almost eliminating our position in Louisiana, and buying stock on that basis, on a favorable trade basis. I think we have all of those arrows in our quiver, but it starts with, gosh, we've got this great amount of free cash flow that can fund our full development and redevelopment capital, which is the highest and best use of our capital.

Derek Johnston
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Thanks. That's it for me. Have a great day.

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Thanks, Derek.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Wes Golladay with RBC. Please proceed with your question.

Wes Golladay
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hey, good morning, everyone. I just want to go back to the major redevelopments. I think you mentioned The Abbot, $1 million dilution this year, Costa Verde, $5 million. In the background we see Town and Country occupancy is real low there. Peachtree is also well below the Regency average. I'm just wondering how much of the dilution from the pipeline for the redevelopments is going to be in 2019 and will be less of an issue in 2020.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Are you talking, Wes, about general occupancy? Town and Country's not the same-property NOI, and Peachtree, that's not going to hit even 2020. We haven't even started the project yet. We did provide additional disclosure in the supplemental on some of the stabilization of our redevelopments. Even redevelopments will take time. I think it's just most important to remember that while 2019 is muted, we do expect to return to 3%+ in the very near term, which in terms of in 2020. That will be because we will be getting some contribution from redevelopments that will be coming online. I'm not sure if you're asking about NOI or occupancy.

Wes Golladay
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Put it on total NOI.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

It seems-

Wes Golladay
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Looking at the occupancy falling at some of these properties that are teed up for maybe one, two plus years down the road, it looks like some of the dilution's already happening this year. This year, we have some of these big projects that will have up to $5 million of NOI being taken offline. To me, it seems like we have a little bit of a front-end load on this redevelopment pipeline disproportionately impacting 2019 from a total NOI perspective, and that's where I was trying to get at to see if like when we get to next year-

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Absolutely. You just said it better than we said it in our prepared remarks. Thank you. I mean, that's exactly what's happening in 2019. Very well said.

Wes Golladay
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. Well, thanks. That's all for me.

Lisa Palmer
President and CFO, Regency Centers

Thanks, Wes.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Vince Tibone with Green Street Advisors. Please proceed with your question.

Vince Tibone
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Hey, good morning. Can you discuss trends in cap rates in the transaction market? Have you noticed any changes over the last few months?

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Vince, I'm happy to answer this one. I'll start with the selling side of it. What we're selling out there is being widely accepted by the market. We're transacting, and buyers are cooperating at the contract prices. We haven't seen a lot of retrading going on. We have seen some more money being raised out there to buy commodity-type assets, which is typically the stuff that we're selling. Not a material or meaningful change in cap rates. It sort of depends on the market, but really pretty steady that's out there. On the buy side, as you probably heard from others, not a lot on the market. The high-quality properties with high growth profiles that we look for, there's not a lot that's being traded. Cap rates have remained quite low on those. Example would be Melrose Market that we recently acquired up in Seattle.

Got a low going-in cap rate, but a very impressive growth profile in excess of 3.5%. A good IRR on that one and a terrific location. No real change in cap rates over the last quarter or two quarters. Pretty steady out there.

Vince Tibone
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

That's helpful color. Thank you. One more for me. You mentioned there were some relocations in the fourth quarter. Do you expect retailer relocation activity to pick up going forward as retailers may have more options in a market following recent bankruptcies?

Jim Thompson
EVP of Operations, Regency Centers

Vince, I think it's a little bit of business as usual. I think you're always going to be faced with tenants taking an opportunity to rightsize, et cetera. Again, I think the bigger overriding factor is the flight to quality. Again, it's kind of business as usual. It's what we've seen forever, and we just try to be ahead of the curve, and when we see things coming, be prepared to hopefully react positively and take the best of what the market will give us.

Vince Tibone
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Okay. Thank you. That's all I have.

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Omotayo Okusanya with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Omotayo Okusanya
Analyst, Jefferies

Hi. Yes, good morning. Most of my questions have been answered. It's more of a broad one I have just around e-tailers and this need for them to kind of have physical stores on a going-forward basis. A very popular topic on the mall side. I don't hear quite as much about it on the shopping center side, but just curious how you guys kind of think about that, if there are any concepts out there that make sense for you to be aggressively courting.

Mac Chandler
EVP of Investments, Regency Centers

Sure thing. Well, it's no surprise you've read all the different reports out there on how many digitally native retailers are expanding into bricks and mortar, and the connection between their digital sales by having a physical footprint. It's a difference maker, and we would expect that trend to continue. You're right, it's not talked about as much in our sector. We're seeing little signs of it, but these digitally native companies are in the early stages of growth. If you look at their store count, it's still pretty low in a per market basis. Amazon's another digitally native company that is expanding. You've seen their announcement, how they're expanding, on a national basis. We're keenly attuned to that. I think that's probably the best example of how we could and will impact our space, in a positive way.

Omotayo Okusanya
Analyst, Jefferies

Gotcha. All right. Thank you.

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

Thank you.

Operator

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, you may need to pick up your handset before you press the star keys. Our next question comes from the line of Linda Tsai with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.

Linda Tsai
Analyst, Barclays

Hi. Four of the seven acquisitions you made in 2018 were anchored by Whole Foods. I'm guessing this is not a coincidence. You also have two new Whole Foods under redevelopment. Do you have a view of how much NAV accretion or cap rate benefit a Whole Foods adds to a center?

Mac Chandler
EVP of Investments, Regency Centers

Well, I would definitely say we're big fans of Whole Foods. It's not just us, it's the side shop retailers that really embrace their presence in a shopping center. They still command the highest rents, rent growth, and quality of side shop retailers. That's one of the reasons we like them. Those centers and redevelopments are also in terrific demographics, which Whole Foods gravitates towards. It's no surprise that we do a lot of business with them. It matches up with the high quality of our portfolio, and, we approach things similarly. On the difference of the cap rate, it depends. Certainly, lower cap rates are attributed to Whole Foods centers, but a lot of it has to do with the underlying growth of the income stream.

For those reasons I mentioned, those centers typically have better growth profiles because of the terms of their lease and the terms of the side shop leasing. Is it 25 basis points? Is it 50? It really depends. It's not fair to give a broad brush answer on that one. We're big fans, and we're doing lots of business with them.

Linda Tsai
Analyst, Barclays

Thanks. The two new Whole Foods under redevelopment, are these boxes any different in configuration or layout versus existing boxes? I guess I'm asking if Amazon ownership has altered the format or size of the store.

Mac Chandler
EVP of Investments, Regency Centers

We have not seen, not only Whole Foods, but almost all the grocers we're working with have not really changed their format size. It's been pretty consistent. I guess what is different is you're seeing a continued amount of innovation, experimentation, often an increase in R&D. You're seeing all grocers, not just Whole Foods, really focus on service and value in the in-store experience. That hasn't translated to a change in format or square footage. There's still an expansion in bricks-and-mortar stores to support their store base. We haven't seen a change. Point 50 is a slightly smaller store than some of the mainline Whole Foods. Whole Foods operates in different formats depending on whether it's a flagship or a typical store. That one might look a little bit smaller, but it's not a meaningful change in strategy or anything like that.

That's a terrific location in Fairfax on a site that we've owned for more than 10 years, we're excited to be kicking off that development.

Linda Tsai
Analyst, Barclays

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. It appears we have no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the floor back over to management for closing comments.

Hap Stein
Chairman and CEO, Regency Centers

We appreciate your time on the call, interest in the company, and hope you have a very nice Valentine's Day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a wonderful day.