Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome back. I'm Rachel Ruggeri. You know, I thought about this and I thought, "Gee, I don't have a video. I don't have special guests to come on," but I decided this, that today my colleagues have given you a narrative. Really what numbers do is they end a sentence. They're the punctuation, and I'm choosing this for today's punctuation, exclamation point. Keep that in your head. Your center. Oh, come on. That was pretty cool. All right. I love the Tryer Center 'cause I think it highlights the very best of what we have to offer at Starbucks, which is innovative solutions designed by our partners for our partners. It gives me a lot of confidence in the future. I hope it does for you as well, and it also makes me really proud.
Now, as my colleagues have shared today, our reinvention plan supports a renewed focus on the three foundations of our business, our partners, our stores, and our customers. Investing in this Triple Shot is what differentiates our brand and our experience. Now, whether you have that great conversation in the morning with your favorite barista, you know you all do, or you're customizing your pumpkin cream cold brew in the afternoon, or if you're like me, and you enjoy a grande quad espresso over ice with extra extra ice twice a day every day. Explains a lot. There's so many different ways to enjoy Starbucks in whatever way works best for you. What we know that is above all, our brand is defined by the experience and the personal connection that our partners create for our customers.
That is the essence of Starbucks, and it's what makes us unique. I can say that because I'm not only a partner, I am first and foremost a customer, and a very loyal one. Now as I wrap up the presentations for today. Yep, this is the wrap-up section. I'm gonna show you how the investments and the personalized connection and that experience we're creating for our partners and our customers translates into a new era of performance. Now, as Howard teased in the beginning, and as we've shared throughout today in the details, the reinvention plan is set to support a new era of growth. What does new era mean? Simply put, it means accelerated earnings growing to 15%-20% annually over the next three years. Come on, you gotta be on the edge of your seat.
15%-20% annually over the next three years, up from our previous guidance of 10%-12%. That's our new era of growth. Now, hopefully, you're on the edge of your seat. You're not sitting there writing and you're listening, because the reality is now what I need to do is explain how that accelerated growth translates into our performance. It all starts with the building blocks of our ongoing growth model. Our building blocks can be summarized into four key drivers that collectively support our company's earnings growth. They are, number one, comp growth, two, store growth, three, margin expansion, and finally, disciplined capital allocation. Our reinvention plan to accelerate each and every one of these building blocks, leading to accelerated earnings growth.
Now, before I get into the building blocks, I wanna remind everybody that our ongoing growth expectations are over the next three years, starting in fiscal year 2023 through fiscal year 2025. Additionally, fiscal year 2023 will be outsized as we lap fiscal year 2022, which was pressured from elevated investments, inflationary impacts. For this reason, fiscal year 2023 may be outsized on certain metrics relative to our ongoing performance. Awesome. Our first building block is comparable store sales growth because we know that comp growth is a key indicator of the health of our business. Now we're expecting acceleration in this metric over the next few years, driven by the collective benefits my colleagues shared throughout today as part of the five strategic shifts, otherwise known as the reinvention plan.
As a result, we're now expecting our global comp growth to reach the range of 7%-9%, with fiscal year 2023 at or above the high end of the range, given the timing of recovery in China, normalizing to the low end of the range in fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025. Now, this is three percentage points above the midpoint of our previous guidance range of 4%-5%. Why? Because our path forward prioritizes investments that accelerate our revenue growth through efficiency and unlocked capacity across the globe. Importantly, we've already seen some benefits from the investments we've made, as Frank shared earlier today, as John spoke about. We're in a position, a unique position, to benefit from some tailwinds, including increasing demand for convenience, increasing traffic, as well as a continued taste and desire for cold beverages and personalization.
Now, driving this acceleration is our U.S. comp growth, which is expected to increase to the range of 7%-9% annually over the next three years, also up from our previous guidance range of 4%-5%. For China, we're expecting our comp to be outsized in fiscal year 2023 and portions of fiscal year 2024 as we lap the severity of the lockdowns in the market. Now, as the market recovers, we expect comp to normalize to a range of 4%-6% in 2025, which is up two percentage points from our previous guidance range of 2%-4%, driven by our confidence in our ability to meet our commitments, aided by an increasing digital capability, which Belinda outlined today, as well as the vast opportunity that we see in this key growth market.
Our next building block, on to number two, is new store growth. Based on the demand that we are seeing across the globe, we're also accelerating our global store expansion, targeting net store growth of roughly 7% annually over the next three years, with fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025 higher than fiscal year 2023 as we work to accelerate the pipeline. This is up from our previous guidance range of approximately 6%, even on an expanded store base, driven largely by our U.S. portfolio as the reinvention plan, similar to what John outlined today, has identified incremental opportunities, coupled with our deepened confidence for our growth in China. With this, the U.S. store growth target increases to 3%-4%, John had shared that today, over the next three years.
That's up from our previous guidance range. Oh, I should say fiscal year 2023 will be at the low end of that range, and fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025 will be at the high end of that range. Now that's up from approximately 3% that we had previously provided. For China, given the strong and robust store development that we have in the market, we're now targeting net store growth of roughly 13%, which is basically giving more definition to the low teens that we had previously guided. We also see tremendous opportunity to be able to expand across the globe outside of markets like U.S. and China, as Michael had shared today.
Now when you think about the store expansion that I just shared over the next three years, coupled with the long runway of opportunity that we have across the globe, it's not hard to imagine that we're now estimating approximately 45,000 stores by the end of fiscal year 2025. 45,000 stores. That puts us on a path to meet the 55,000 stores by 2030 that we had previously guided and projected at our last Investor Day. Now with this pace of global store openings, we're expecting to open nearly eight stores per day. Eight stores per day. When you have best-in-class returns, the ability to build and remodel stores that optimize the customer experience of the future and a global footprint, it reinforces our leadership position, which is actually unrivaled in our industry. That might need an exclamation point. All right.
Now when you combine comparable store sales and store growth across our company-operated and licensed markets, it leads to revenue growth of 10%-12% annually through fiscal year 2025. Now this is up two percentage points from our previous guidance range of 8%-10%. This is because we continue to prioritize investments that focus on accelerating the partner experience, creating efficiency in our stores, coupled with an industry-leading digital program, an engaged and growing Starbucks Rewards membership base, game-changing innovation, and a rapidly expanding store portfolio. There is no better way to demonstrate a new era of growth than through the confidence that we have in committing to double-digit revenue growth, which breaks convention for a company of our size and our scale. All right, moving to the third building block, margin expansion. I know it's always the question of the day, right?
We expect our margin to expand in each of the next three years. Based on the anticipated recovery in China, coupled with the investments that we've been sharing throughout the day, we now expect solid margin expansion in fiscal year 2023, with progressively more expansion in fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025 as the impacts of the reinvention plan start to take effect and amplify. Now we'll reach our historical levels of margin over the long term, but it's critically important that we make the right investments and decisions today and in the near term to implement this reinvention plan because it furthers our advantage. Okay. Now let me provide a little bit more color around the shape of our recovery, margin recovery. Our margin is a function of pluses and minuses that together net to accelerated growth.
We expect an outsized impact on the plus side of the equation, driven by sales leverage from the accelerated revenue growth inclusive of strategic pricing, improved turnover, efficiency in our stores and labor leverage, as John had outlined today, and some of which we shared with you in the Tryer Center earlier. We also expect waste reduction as well as supply chain savings across the P&L and G&A leverage over the long term as the reinvention plan investments begin to lessen and we get leverage from the accelerated revenue growth. Now on the other side of the equation, we anticipate incremental investments in the support of our reinvention plan and our other initiatives.
In fiscal year 2023 specifically, we're estimating to spend slightly more than $1 billion of incremental investments, half of which will reflect the annualization of the investments we made in fiscal year 2022, largely related to wage and benefit rate increases. Now, we also expect headwinds related to supply chain and commodity pressures, inflationary pressures to continue with a potential opportunity for a tailwind in the future if rates decrease. Now, it's gonna be critically important for us to continue to invest in our partners, our stores, and our customers well beyond fiscal year 2023. We believe the benefits from those investments will outpace our costs, leading to further margin tailwinds in the future. Okay, we're getting close. Fourth and final building block. Moving on to capital allocation.
Despite the elevated level of investments, we remain committed to sustaining a strong balance sheet and superior shareholder return underpinned by disciplined, growth-oriented capital allocation. Now let's start with CapEx. Based on what I shared today and the expansion of our global footprint, as well as our ability to continue to invest high return growth-oriented investments in our partners, our stores, and our customers. To enable this, we'll need to increase our CapEx relative to previous guidance to $2.5-$3 billion annually over the next three years. Now, these incremental investments will go to support store growth, renovations, innovation in our stores like equipment and design, like what you saw in the Tryer Center today, as well as supply chain and technology improvements.
Now, as we continue to prioritize high return growth-oriented investments which bolster our revenue and our capital efficiency, we expect our ROIC to progressively improve, exceeding 25% in the next three years. Now, our ability to continue to invest in the customer experience of the future is a competitive advantage. Importantly, the learnings from the investments we're making today help drive better returns for our capital investments in the future. Next, we remain committed to sustaining an incredibly compelling dividend, continuing to target an earnings payout ratio of approximately 50%, which equates to an estimated yield of about 2%. Now, both our payout and our estimated yield are near the top end of growth companies of our size and scale, creating superior shareholder returns when you combine it with the rate of our earnings growth.
Finally, we will resume our share buyback program, reinstituting a healthy level of return of shareholder capital. We expect to yield a benefit of approximately 1% on earnings net of interest, incremental interest expense beginning in fiscal year 2024, as we expect the reinvention plans to help uplift our free cash flow and our debt capacity while we maintain our long-term leverage target of 3x lease-adjusted EBITDA, which is consistent with an investment-grade credit rating of BBB+. Now between our dividends and our share buybacks, we expect to return approximately $20 billion to shareholders in the next three years. $20 billion to shareholders. Now on the subtopic of capital allocation, I also want to address an alternate scenario of 10, 20, 30 that we shared at our last Investor Day.
As a reminder, that scenario assumed licensing, further licensing of some of our markets and a redeployment of the capital, which would lead to an earnings growth of at least 10%, operating margin approaching 20%, and ROIC approaching 30%. Based on a more recent evaluation of our ownership structures, we believe that we largely have the structures in place today to support the growth scenario over the next three years. If you take disciplined capital allocation, our compelling comps ROIC, it reflects our confidence in the strength of our business, creating exceptional shareholder return while maintaining balance sheet flexibility, and importantly, funding our critical investments. Okay, we're getting to the very end, because now I'm gonna add up all the components of the building blocks. When you take accelerated comp and store growth, it leads to revenue growth of 10%-12%.
When you combine that with accelerated margin expansion, as well as a return of our share buybacks, it converts to an EPS growth of an estimated 15%-20% annually over the next three years. So see, that's where we started. Now we're back. 15%-20% annually over the next three years. That far surpasses our previous guidance of 10%-12% when combined with a dividend yield of approximately 2%. This is an incredible ambition on every single level. Howard started with ambition, and I just punctuated the ambition. Now, hopefully, what you've heard today through everything that my colleagues have shared and what we've talked about all day, is that we're designing a plan and implementing a plan that delivers a new era of growth. If you're in finance, you hear new era of growth. I know 'cause I do this, too.
You think of percentages and CAGRs and basis points. The reality is, or in my opinion, there's another definition of new era that I particularly like. It comes from the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English. I know. Probably never uttered at an Investor Day. The Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English defines new era in this way. "It's a period that is just beginning, especially one that seems to offer better opportunity." I'm gonna say that again. "A period that is just beginning, especially one that seems to offer better opportunity." I've been a partner at Starbucks for over 18 years, and I have had incredible opportunities, and I have learned so much, and I love working at the company.
What keeps me here, and importantly, what keeps me coming back each and every day, is something that I learned from my parents when I was growing up in Walla Walla, Washington. That is, people make the difference. We shared a reinvention plan today and talked about a lot of things, and I just gave you incredible growth numbers. The reality is all of that, everything we've shared, is in support fundamentally of a better experience for our partners. As Frank outlined, for our partners to thrive, that's what this fundamentally all leads to. Because we know that when our more than 450,000 Green Apron partners across the globe work together side by side to reinvent Starbucks, that is our superpower. Our partners are our superpower.
That is why we dare to enter a new era of growth to create long-term value for all, for partners, for customers, and for shareholders. I have confidence in this growth. Why? It's simple. I have confidence in our partners. Thank you so much for being here today, and we welcome Q&A, which I have to imagine you've got a lot of questions, so we will entertain those in just a few minutes. Thank you.
I think we wanna open it up for any questions, comments. If you just introduce yourself and maybe stand up 'cause the lighting is tough. We can't really see you very well.
Yeah.
That'd be great. Go ahead. Mr. Palmer. The mic's coming. The mic's coming.
Yeah, much better.
Hi. David Palmer, Evercore ISI. Just a question on the Siren System. I assume you've tried it out. You have the Tryer Center, maybe you've done some in-market stuff. Could you maybe give us some numbers or give us a sense of what it looks like in terms of labor productivity and the throughput upside, in other words, the sales upside as you roll that out? That $450 million you're spending in 2023, is that really the Siren System rollout itself, or does it include some other, you know, if you could talk about what is in that. Thank you.
It's really we're in a test period. There are some stores today that have it. We'll continue to test to 2023. The rollout is in 2024 and 2025 more broadly. That 450 that John outlined is a lot of the equipment, as well as some of the activities that we're doing in the stores today to be able to create more efficiency. Some of what John talked about with automation, with simple. That's really what's largely going into that number today. Inclusive in there also is some of the training that we're also spending for the partners. That's really what combines that number that we're talking today. What I would say is the $2.5 billion-$3 billion in capital that I guided for the next couple of years, that will include our rollout of the Siren System.
It'll be part of new stores as well as renovations, and it's part of that overall capital spend.
If you're staying in Seattle, any of you, and you wanna see it in action, it's in a store about 20 minutes from Seattle in Renton. It's live. We've all seen it. We've been there a number of times. Our partners love it, and it's right there. You can see it in action.
We can send out the address. I know I already have a couple people, so we can send the address out.
What you'll see is that it'll drive throughput, right? Clearly, the time to make a beverage versus where it's at today drives an increase in capacity to help us achieve those revenue targets that we're looking at, and ultimately flow through into the margin growth that we're looking for.
Yeah. On the mic. Thank you.
Yes. Greg, Gregory Francfort from Guggenheim. Thanks for all the detail, and I thought the Tryer lab was just really good to get a hands-on feel for. In terms of the revenue growth and the comp growth, I mean, I guess 7%-9% just feels a lot stronger than where it's been. How much of it is the technology enabling that versus something else? What's the breakdown of traffic versus pricing that's assumed in that? .
Thanks for the question. I'd start with 7%-9%. Remember, FY 2023 is at the high end of the range given the timing of recovery in China. We're normalizing to the lower end of the range in 2024 and 2025. Still a big number. A big driver of the difference from where we were before is some of the things that I outlined, which include the investments that we're prioritizing that drive accelerated revenue growth, as well as this increasing digital capability that we have across the globe, what Belinda talked about in China, what Michael addressed for the international markets, and as well as what Brady talked about. That's a significant driver. We have an engaged and growing Starbucks customer base. That also supports the growth.
To innovate in our products, beverages and food, and that also helps drive it. It's a combination of all of that that leads to the accelerated comp growth that also leads to the accelerated revenue growth.
If I could add just a little bit on top of that. On the ticket side, what we're seeing is premiumization. As people shift towards that cold, customized plant-based beverage, that tends to be a premium beverage. As they customize, they're adding things like cold foams or plant-based milks, which again is a premium ticket. Plus, with the growth that we're seeing on food, we're just seeing an expansion in ticket completely. If we look at the transaction side, you know, offices are still at a fraction of their pre-COVID occupancy levels. As we see that to start to come back, we think we'll see a lot, not to mention some of the digital innovation that we've put in place, as well as the expansion of delivery.
Both on the ticket side and the transaction side, we see a number of levers to really drive the business.
I will note that the 7%-9% comp, particularly in FY 2023, because it's reflecting the recovery in China, it's got a significant part of it that's traffic. In the out years, there's still traffic growth, but it's smaller relative to ticket, given what Brady spoke about with personalization and more premium beverages.
Let's take one in the back.
Hi. Jon Tower at Citi. Just had a couple questions, if I may. In terms of, I think we heard a few numbers today around investment, whether it's the $450, $220 million. So I was hoping you could walk through where that's going across the business, OpEx versus CapEx, as well as the timing. I hate to get greedy on this, but thinking about the business beyond fiscal 2025, 2015- 2020, up through that point, but how should we think of it beyond that?
I can start, and I can have Belinda and John add. In FY 2023, we're committing to slightly more than $1 billion in incremental investments. Half of that reflects the annualization of the investments we made in fiscal year 2022 related to the benefit and wage rate increases. The way to think about the remaining amount is a good portion of it, almost all of it, goes to partner. In terms of the $2.5-$3 billion in incremental capital that I spoke about, right? Relative to we've been closer to, say, the $2 billion range, that increase is reflecting the stations we're speaking about, but that's the high level, I'll give it to my colleagues to give you more detail.
Great. In terms of the $220 million in China is really around three areas. One is digitalizing our operations so we can simplify the work for our barista. Like I shared before, they can focus on connection with the customers and the craft, right? Second piece is the new experience that we could bring in the omni-channel space. Either in delivery or in store, we're constantly elevating the Starbucks experience that we could bring.
We could offer. The third piece would be around the membership. How are we gonna acquire, engage our membership, our members a lot better? I mean, the enormous opportunity we can reach new members and then cultivating that relationship with them requires a lot of investment for us to be able to offer personalized experiences to them. Those would be the three areas that we'll be focusing on.
For the U.S. business, I would just add the $450 million is the investment we'll make this coming fiscal year. It's really centered around the store and store experience and really simplifying for our partners as well as giving them the increased training that we are investing in. Equally are the investments that we'll make to drive demand as well from a marketing standpoint as well as from a digital standpoint. You know, clearly, we see that these investments are the right ones to do, and we are definitely gonna hold ourselves accountable to seeing the returns from those.
If I could just add, the $1 billion, the slightly more than $1 billion that we spoke about, that's all OpEx. It's all partner. Then largely what Belinda talked about and what John talked about are part of the $2.5, gives you the breakdown. Then beyond fiscal year 2025, I just have to say we're incredibly encouraged by our reinvention plan, but I think, you know, the guidance we gave today is a great outlook for the next couple of years.
Please.
Hi, Andrew Charles from Cowen. I guess a question for Rachel or for Michael, but just wanna go through on the refranchising plan. You know, a year and a half ago, it seemed pretty sound to refranchise company-owned stores outside of China, internationally, of course, not in the U.S. Can you talk about the thinking that's changed there, just given that was gonna be an opportunity to boost ROIC for the company, cash inflows to buy back stock, resilient, if you will, a little more defensive? Then just a follow-up to that, Michael, if you had to pick one market that we can think of as, you know, obviously, you guys did fantastically well in the U.S., then it became China being the next big focus.
What's the one market you'd say, "Hey, this could be something big as well in the future that you're most optimistic about?" Thanks.
I'll start and Rachel, if you wanna talk about that.
Sure.
I shared today that we're fairly balanced right now internationally between our company-operated and our licensed markets. What we found during the last couple of years is that that model is working for us. It's actually been quite robust. If you look at some of our company-operated markets like Japan, that has been quite resilient. We've put investment in, so our digital is starting to take off. Our sales, our profitability is starting to increase, and that market is a significant market with actually a lot more runway, whether it's stores or digital to come. Then you flip to a market like the U.K., also very strong performance, some record performance the last couple of quarters. We've had five quarters of just record revenues, and we see a lot of potential there.
You flip to our international licensed markets, and we've also seen resilience across the line there, and we've worked very closely with our partners over the last couple of years to ensure that we're building capabilities. I think as we look at the balance, the balance has worked for us. In fact, as customer behaviors change and we start focusing more on shifting our portfolio, that balance in both of that is working well for us. I don't know if you wanna add then.
Sure.
I can talk about what's next.
The only thing that I would add to that is that we continue to evaluate our ownership structures, and so we'll continue to do that. I was just being very specific around addressing the 10/20/30. While we don't see that is an alternate scenario, it doesn't mean we won't continue to evaluate our ownership structures. We will.
In terms of the future and what might be ahead in terms of the next big market, you may have noticed actually today I've shifted from talking about a given market to focusing actually on our licensees. With our licensees who span multiple markets, we see growth coming from not just one market but multiple regions. As I think about the future, I see growth across Latin America. I see significant growth in EMEA and also Asia Pacific. Really, there isn't one market. I think there's gonna be a lot of growth to be had in existing markets. We're always looking at new markets as well, but there isn't one that stands out. What really stands out is the strength of our licensees and the way we're gonna build capability there.
What you're gonna see isn't just one market, but you're gonna see similar to what we've seen in the last couple of quarters with the strength of our business.
Yeah.
Hi, John Zolidis, Quo Vadis Capital. You put up on a couple of slides an expected relationship between cost and sales at new stores of 2:1. Obviously, the revenues at new stores are expected to be higher in the future, and we all know that cost to build out stores has gone up. In addition, you're making a lot of investments with the new Siren System, et cetera, to make the stores more attractive. We know also that drive-thru stores tend to be more expensive than some of the other formats. I was wondering if you could help us understand the cost, the specific cost of the new stores that's embedded in the CapEx guidance that you provided. Then secondly, within that, China is a greater percentage of the growth going forward.
Are those stores expected to produce higher ROIC than the U.S.-based stores? Is that included in the 25% total company ROIC target over time? Thank you.
Yes. I could start, and I'll answer the last part of your questions first, which is yes. Our ROIC exceeding 25% over the next three years is inclusive of the growth, inclusive of the growth that we're seeing in China from a store count. Now, in terms of the cost of a store, you got the model right in the sense that we are continuing to support a 2:1 investment ratio, so our sales will go up, but as you indicated, our costs also go up. We're still able to support 2:1 while we do that, while still maintaining best-in-class economics, keeping to that approximately 50% ROI in the U.S. and about a 25% cash margin.
China, as you know, has got even superior economics with about 70% ROI and closer to about 35% cash margins. That's what we'll make it about: success, right? We've talked a lot about store growth. Store growth is incredibly important, but we aren't chasing a number. We're ensuring that we have the opportunity and the economics as we do that. Today, we have that line of sight, and so that's why we're, you know, optimistic about what we're doing.
The one thing about China that I think is perhaps not as obvious is that despite the strength of unit economics of China, the transactions are relatively low. Historically, if you go back 25 years within Starbucks, we're less than 500 a day. As the market matures, and as we get more and more capacity across China, what's gonna happen is those transactions are gonna go up. When you think about the scale of Starbucks, that we're still getting 2:1 s ales-to-investment ratio at the level of scale that we have.
You could actually make the case that 10 years ago, we actually had the best locations in the country, and our 2:1 sales-to-investment ratio should be going down 'cause we don't have the choice of the highest quality real estate anymore. We've already taken it. What's happened in America is that the market has expanded well beyond the high-profile markets, and that's exactly what's gonna happen in China.
Good point.
Yeah.
Sorry, found the question?
Thanks. Sara Senatore from Bank of America.
Sarah.
Hi. I wanted to go back to the idea of the same store sales in the U.S. I know this might be an atypical question to answer, but if you had to think about sort of order of magnitude, how much of that is from, you know, new sales layers or new customers versus just improving productivity and maybe just capturing the demand that's out there now that you've talked about perhaps not being able to service? And maybe you can frame it as whether it's, you know, transactions to Howard's point about, you know, 500 versus 700.
Great.
how to think about the drivers.
Great.
Thank you.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, I'm happy to start. Rachel, I mean, I don't know that we'll break down the portions of where it's coming from, but I do think one of our challenges today is that we're not able to meet the capacity of demand that is coming to our stores. As we become more efficient on the front end, when you think about a business that's 50% drive-through, we call it line balk. It's when the line is too long, and you peel off the line, or you don't even stop because the line is too long. That's one of the number-one reasons for not visiting Starbucks, the line is too long.
When you think about just the latent demand that's out there, as we increase the capacity of our stores by enabling our partners and making their job easier and more effortless, we can serve more customers, and that's certainly baked into the model. In addition to that, given the programs that we've talked about, the expansion of digital, the new product innovation that's building in the sweet spot of where the customer is going right now, that will continue to drive demand and drive sales. On the ticket side, we'll continue to look at our pricing strategy over time, but also we see that premiumization effect, not just in the elevation of the core product categories, but also with the customization that we're seeing increase significantly year-over-year. That combination of factors should drive a very strong comp growth in the U.S.
Yeah.
Thank you. Jeffrey Bernstein from Barclays. You know, I feel like Howard, Rachel, when I talk to investors, a lot of them look for prudent conservatism in an environment like this. Especially with your size and scale, which you've referred to on a number of occasions, setting up for maybe more of a scenario to consistently beat and raise which companies your size set the bar at a reasonable level are trying to exceed that. I'm just wondering the driver, the confidence behind actually accelerating your comp growth, your unit growth, your revenue margin, EPS growth, just the scenario behind which you lay that out, especially in an environment right now where it seems like most people are talking about a slowing economy. I know, Howard, you mentioned you haven't seen anything to date, which is fantastic. I'm just wondering, one, just why raise?
Why not manage it lower and beat expectations? Two, what do you see today versus past slowdowns where you feel like you have greater confidence now? That's more of a short-term question.
Sure
It feels like over the next year or two.
Yeah
Headlines are gonna be how did you raise numbers?
Let me tell you how this plan was built, which I think will give you some insight and hopefully, some confidence. The plan was built not only bottoms up, but everyone on this stage and the teams that we represent individually built their own plan. Then we came back together, we rolled up the numbers, and we had a real tough conversation about the scale of exactly what you've asked. What I said to everyone on the team, I'm being very straight up with you, is "Go back, take the next few days, have a conversation with Rachel as to whether or not you wanna revise your plan down." There was no pressure whatsoever about trying to hit a number, a comp number, an EPS we were experiencing, and our faith and confidence in the investments we're making.
Rachel had the opportunity, as we presented to the board, to have the same kind of conversation. I'll let Rachel take it from here.
What I'll start with, Jeffrey, is I would say, really it, the building blocks that I shared, I think are the logical way to think about it. From a comp perspective, you know, which is the first start of the building block, to see a recovery. If you think about the more normal end of the range, you think about, you know, we're investing to be able to drive an accelerated revenue growth. That's critically important for us. Our ability to invest in the customer experience tomorrow is a key differentiator. Without that level of an investment.
You know, we wouldn't be able to get to the future we need to get to. In some ways, you sort of have to be where you are to be able to support the level of investment, you know, to get us to the future. The other thing I would add is we have an increasing digital capability that I think sometimes globally, we don't even tell the story about broadly enough. You know, we talk a lot about what's happening in the U.S. We talk separately about what's happening in China. We had Michael share a little bit about what's gonna happen in international. When you look at that collectively, that's an area of opportunity for us, just in terms of how we think about our growth and what's different from even a couple of years ago.
I mean, China was at 47% of their sales in Q3 was digital. Between MOD and MOP, that was a 13% growth from the prior year. Significant increase, and I think that just speaks to the opportunity we have. If you can kinda get your head around the comp, you know, store growth, we've been pretty successful with that leads you to the revenue. The reality there is we're expanding our margin, but as you saw in our guidance, it's more of a, you know, directional on the margin expansion to be able to give us the flexibility so that we can continue to invest and determine how these returns come in.
I mean, you can kind of get to the range when you take the revenue and the earnings, but if you've got confidence in that revenue, and you add in that margin expansion, which is not an egregious number, collectively, that gets you to the earnings.
Yes, please, in the back.
Hey, What is it that gives you guys the conviction to really lean in on growth here when there are so many mixed signals coming out of that from a macro standpoint? It almost seems as if you guys are kind of going for a strategic land grab here, while others might be standing still. Any color on that would be appreciated. Thanks.
Right. Well, during my presentation, I mean, the majority of the growth was from the last 10 years. I explained just now that there's white space that we could go after, more people picking up coffee, middle class is growing, urbanization, all of that is happening. That's tailwind for us. Just look at the last two years that we went through major distractions within the market, and our new stores are still giving us best-in-class returns. It's just proven that there's just lots of opportunity.
We're growing our stores not because we want to grab space, but there are people, there are more people drinking coffee in China and in different tier of cities. The whole coffee lifestyle and the life cycle is moving, and it's very dynamic. Just look at our track record. This is the third time we're giving a target. The first one I remember, 1,500 by 2015. We delivered before the deadline. 2018 in Investor Day. No COVID was in sight. Nobody in the world would imagine we have a pandemic going on. We went through that. We delivered 6,000 stores.
Today, I am so confident to tell you that with our people, the ability that we can operate in the market, the know-how, our partners, the relationship we've built with our customers, the relationship we have built with our key stakeholders in the market, including the government, 9,000 stores, 2025. Thank you.
Let me just add one proof point on that or data point. If for those of you that have covered us for multiple years, back in 2012, 2014, we had a statistic that said the average China consumer consumes less than three cups of coffee a year. Belinda put up a statistic showing that that is now 10-12 cups per year. The market is moving fast. Coffee is emerging as the choice of beverage for the younger consumers in China, and we are positioned to capture share. When that's what we're doing, we're going after it, and we're investing now for the long-term growth aspects of the country.
Yes, back there. Thank you.
Thank you. I'm Danilo Gargiulo from Bernstein. It looks like this is a very ambitious plan.
As a headline.
I wanted to ask you, how you're planning to cascade down incentives down in the organization to make sure that everything is aligned? The second question I have related to that is, it seems I hear a lot, co-creation of the plan. What's still outstanding in terms of aligning incentives with unions so that this plan is actually carried forward by the entirety of the Starbucks system? Thank you.
Frank, you wanna start?
I'll start by saying I think it's an excellent question. I think that the bottom up is very much at the core of the reinvention. I think we have some opportunities to continue to tighten that connection. Our first sort of thrust into this was just a recommitment to the partner experience as the source of value creation, comparatively speaking to all other things, as Rachel has said so well. I think with that in place, we're now going back and revisiting what our adjustment is as tight and as affirming as it can be.
Yeah.
Thank you. Nick Setyan from Wedbush. Would it be possible for you to at least bracket, you know, some of the operating margin assumptions around FY 2023, you know, in terms of the U.S. or North America versus international? You know, however you'd like to do it, maybe you know, I mean, there's some big variations you can have there, particularly with international and China.
What I'd say is, you know, we've provided a revenue range and an earnings range that allows you to get to the trajectory on margin. That's one way to look at it. What I would say is the majority of our margin expansion in 2023 comes from the US business. Hopefully, with that perspective, it allows you to kind of consider what that shape might look like.
Thanks. Lauren Silberman from Credit Suisse. Question about the Siren System, amazing with time savings, better for partners. How do you think about the customer impact, so differences in taste or even perception when you go from cold brew that takes 20 hours to 45 seconds? Then somewhat related, I believe you mentioned potentially baking in the store. Can you expand on the strategy behind that, and again, just on the impact of the customer, the smell of the store, things like that?
I'll take the taste of coffee first, and then you can go to food. I can't tell you how many hours each of us spend on ensuring the quality of the coffee is at the same level it's been for the history of our company. In fact, we are sourcing and roasting the highest quality coffee, more so than any other time in our history. The proof of everything we do has to be in the cup. The Siren System will have no dilutive effect whatsoever on the quality, the integrity of the taste of coffee. It'll be exactly the same. In terms of smell and things of that nature, in terms of baking in the store, I'll give it to Brady.
Yeah. I mean, just to build on that, the Siren System does not change our brewing method for coffee. It changes the production system that the partner uses and the tools they use to make things like how they get ice, how they distribute milk across the bar instead of having to go into a refrigerator. The coffee, in that way, is unaffected by the Siren System. What I would say is that in each case, whether it's hot brewed coffee, whether it's hot espresso or cold press, cold brew, Starbucks is rewriting the science of coffee extraction on patented proprietary technology, and we work with the leading experts in the world on coffee. Very specifically, to answer your question, we go through very rigorous stage gate process to test everything we do. We start with our partners.
We do focus groups with partners to ensure that any change we make is not only accepted but loved by the partners. Our quest, as always, we never go backwards. It's only up in terms of the quality. Increasing quality of both hot brewed coffee through the Clover Vertica machine, increasing cold brew quality, and reducing the number of variables that happen over an 18-to-20-hour period in the back of a store by doing cold press, cold brew on demand. With hot espresso, we continue to refine our Mastrena II machine to make the world's best espresso. Quality of coffee, number one priority for us.
We start with partners, and then we do multiple rounds of testing with customers in central location testing, products guidance testing, and then we usually do market tests, all to make sure that the coffee only goes up in quality, never backwards.
Food?
Can I
food. Michael?
I just want to add, internationally, we're doing baked in in many markets across our international portfolio. In Latin America, Alsea, they're doing baked in right now, and it is actually a win-win-win. It's a win for the business because it actually creates a better tasting. It helps with waste. It helps with just the process of getting it there. It's a win for partners store, and it's definitely a win for customers as well. We have experience in doing that, and that's something that we're sharing certainly across the international portfolio and perhaps lessons also that we're sharing and can apply here as we consider the U.S.
I would just say ditto because that was so beautifully said. The only thing I would expand is that's the beauty of the global business of Starbucks. We have multiple markets around the world who are fresh baking in store every day. We've just gone around the world to go look at some of those locations, and on those trips, we brought someone from operations, supply chain, R&D, and we went and looked physically and walked the whole process end-to-end to say, "What would it look like to fresh bake laminate products like croissants, chocolate croissants, cookies in our stores?" It actually eliminates a lot of pain points for partners. Today, we receive a frozen product, and we have to thaw that product, and then we heat it.
One of the top complaints we get from customers is a cold center of a breakfast sandwich or a cold center of a pastry. Some of you are smiling, which means maybe you were impacted by that, and I'm sorry. A cold center of a sous vide egg bite. In the future, with things like a fresh baked croissant, we take frozen dough and put that right into the oven, and it not only finishes the bake, but it actually bakes a fresh baked pastry in the store every day. The quality is the best you can find. We'll start that. You saw downstairs, one of the ovens, it was off to the side, and then we had the new pastries in the pastry case. We'll be taking that out to market test very soon.
We've already been doing a lot of work behind the scenes to evaluate what that could look like. As Michael said, not only does it elevate quality, it's actually more efficient for the partners. It reduces waste. There's a number of things, the win-win-win that Michael talked about to do that.
Yes.
Thank you. Brian Bittner from Oppenheimer. Rachel, as it relates to 2023, you said metrics will be elevated. I know you definitely were talking about comps being elevated relative to the three-year range because of China's recovery. Are you also expecting EPS growth to be elevated in finding the $1 billion of incremental investments? Quick math says that's like a 300 basis point margin headwind in 2023. You said that the North America business is gonna be the leader of margin size growth in 2023. Whether it relates to EPS, and if you can unpack how that works for
The way I'd look at it is the comp range, as I said, was 7%-9% with, given the recovery in China. However, remember, on margin, is solid margin expansion in fiscal year 2023, with progressively more expansion in 2024 and 2025 as the impacts of the reinvention plan begin to amplify. You got a greater top line in FY 2023, but you have margin expansion, but not to the degree we'll see in the out years. As a result of that, I think about that lower end on the earnings guidance range.
Yes. John, we'll come to you next.
Thanks. Jared Garber from Goldman Sachs. Just wanted to understand, transaction counts in the U.S. are still lower than they were in 2019. So wanted to get a sense of if you think that recovers over the course of the next year, or how you're planning to maybe utilize incremental traffic in your stores and what the impact of that looks like. Also, as it relates to 2023 and 2024, how are you thinking about that China recovery? What's sort of embedded in that, in your understanding of that market?
Sure, yeah. I mean, our transactions, we're growing. I mean, I think what has transpired over the last few years is that our afternoon day part has grown. Morning is now growing, and I think what we're seeing is a lot of people are holding on to their afternoon occasion that developed over the last three or four years. As offices start to come back in the U.S. and the urban core starts to, and that single beverage transaction in the morning is starting to recover. Transactions will grow in 2023, and we're already seeing green shoots of that in our business.
Maybe in terms of the China recovery, you know, as I thought I was, in my guidance for 2023 and 2024 on comp, saying it would be outsized relative to recovery. Belinda can speak more specifically in terms of-
Obviously a big chunk from the recovery from the Shanghai lockdown and everything else, right? We did plan a very healthy comp growth given what I've just on the six key growth drivers, and we are going to work on those positive growth. There's an assumption in our comp growth that we're not gonna enter the fiscal year with everything just disappearing, right? We're still gonna be under the COVID the zero-COVID policy, we're expecting assuming that towards the latter half of next year that you'll see more lifting of the restrictions versus how we planned our 2023 plan.
John?
Hi. Thank you, John Ivankoe at JP Morgan. We led, you know, the presentation earlier today. You're talking about 2008 and the opportunities that came out of that. One of the things that happened in 2008 was a rationalization of the U.S. store portfolio. Coming into GFC, you opened a lot, you know, whether, you know, there were subprime markets or otherwise, the trade areas just simply didn't develop at the time that, you know, that you rightly thought at the time. I was wondering if there are any parallels in China, you know, with, you know, the China property market or different projects that are half built and without people, what have you. I mean, are there Starbucks stores that are located in such markets that maybe you actually have an opportunity to mothball or just?
This is kind of the first point. Secondly, you know, is there a significant change? I would assume there's some type of a seismic shift in consumption patterns in China. Three years of lockdown is a very, very long time or just disruptive COVID, zero COVID behavior. You know, is there a change in, you know, the China store development platforms, you know, that in 2023, 2024, 2025, maybe, you know, just kind of obfuscated in what, you know, what overall very strong growth numbers look. In other words, is the China 2023-2025 very different than the stores that you were opening in 2017, 2018, and 2019?
Well, first of all, I was here 2008, so the acceleration in China really happened back in 2011. The number one thing our team has learned and throughout the last decade is that we want to build only profitable stores. In the way that we will use a very disciplined growth. That's the only type of stores we wanna build since the beginning of our acceleration. It's not just today. We really learned the lesson, and with that was how we accelerated our growth back in 2011. We watch our portfolio very, very carefully each year, and in the last decade, many things have happened. Things shift, you know, just in the last two years, many things happened as well.
We very much studied our new stores and make sure that we're not chasing after store count, but we're chasing after healthy new store growth that will give us. You with that, our portfolio, it's very healthy. Now, of course, this year we've seen distractions on, you know, when we have to have temporary closures. But even with that, we are delivering best-in-class returns and profitability like what we've showed you. Feeling really comfortable about our portfolio. One of the greatest portfolio you can ever have in this world with our size for our new stores. That's
In terms of how we're gonna grow, I think that's your second question. I mean, like I talked about the omni-channel needs. There's obviously we have a third place business that our customers just love, right? We're building communities, people are gathering. You can see from the video how people are just rushing back to our stores, connecting with each other, connecting over coffee with our people. That is thriving when there are no restrictions going on. Okay? And then where you're talking about a delivery business, from nothing to now, a high percentage, right? Over 20% of our... We're gonna double that in the next three years. If you think about our stores, our purpose-built stores that we just built, those are fulfillment centers for our delivery business.
Now, going forward in our next 10 years of growth, we can be so much smarter. If you take Shanghai as an example, we're at 98% of coverage in the entire city of Shanghai already in terms of delivery fulfillment. You think about my next batch of new stores in Shanghai, we can be so much more smarter with our capital investment in terms of infills. I don't need to build extra capacity for fulfillment for other, like, delivery needs anymore because I have enough. My point is, we can be so much smarter with our capital investment. We can leverage and maximize that a lot more.
The purpose-built stores that I talked about in my presentation, it's really about how we're gonna go wide, go deep, go smart, and go green with our stores in different cities, and how we're gonna build out our penetration and the omni-channel needs for our customers. Thank you.
Let me take a page out of Rachel's book and say, let me put an exclamation point on that. We've been in China now for 21 years. We lost money in China, I think, for the first nine years. It took us a while to get it right. In the last decade, I think we've proven that the power of and literally creating an industry that did not exist and a category that did not exist. If I had to put a headline on the China opportunity, we are playing the long game. I don't know if you picked up a word that Belinda used in her presentation. She said the growth in China over the next year or two will not be linear.
There are obviously external issues, but our belief going back to a decade ago, when I made the declaration that China one day would be as large as the U.S. Well, we're 3,000 stores away from the same size in the U.S. Now, I believe that China is going to be 2x of the U.S., that the size of the opportunity is twice of America. Certainly, if you look at the scale of the opportunity, the population, the power of the brand, the investments we've made, continuing to invest ahead of the growth curve, we are going to build a major business in China, and we will become one of the most respected and recognized brands, not Western brands, but brands in China.
From an investment thesis, what other consumer brand in your portfolio has the opportunity, the runway, and the proven success that we have in China? We're going to continue to be bullish on China despite some of the external issues. We believe the relationships we've built with the customer, relationship we've built with our partner, relationship we've built with the government, puts us in a very unique position. It looks like we're out of time unless there's more questions.
Thank you. Dennis Geiger, UBS. I wanted to ask a bit more about the new store growth in the U.S. You highlighted, I think a breakdown of the stores by format over the next few years, which is super helpful. Can you talk a little bit about the decision to go from three to four? You know, how you think about cannibalization maybe within that context or even on the plus side, how you think about easing the pressure on existing stores or maybe this urban to suburban shift? Just any other pieces to kind of unpack that acceleration would be helpful.
Because I'll start and go from there. I mean, we all morning long, you heard us talk about the fact that the demand, in many cases, is outpacing our capacity to serve our customers in the way that we want. One way to obviously to offload that pressure is we need to open up more stores in the proximity of the trade area, those stores that are under tremendous pressure. That's one. Two, the drive-thru opportunity opens up a whole new scale of real estate for us that really has not been the core. The other issue is, if you look at the map that John put up in his presentation, there's a whole lot of geography that Starbucks has not played in. As the market has expanded, primarily because of Starbucks, we have opportunities that we have not taken advantage of.
The other issue is the multiple formats that we have. We didn't have that in our past. The multiple formats gives us tremendous real estate capability. It lowers our CapEx in many cases because the stores are different formats, smaller sizes, and we can do lots of things. We don't see, you know, I said earlier, in my first thing I said this morning is we have line of sight on lots of opportunity for Starbucks. Maybe the biggest surprise of the day is the accelerated expansion of store growth in the U.S. It looks like the last question. Oh, one more. Please.
It's Chris O'Cull, Stifel. I wanted to drill down on labor just a little bit more on a couple of key things that you guys had mentioned, particularly in relation to dynamic scheduling. Is that something that's on the horizon within, you know, fiscal 2025 or sooner? And how do you manage that to be sure that you're matching, you know, labor to peak demand times? And you, related to that, mentioned tapping non-traditional labor pools. Can you expound on what you meant by that specifically?
Yeah. Let me take your question in reverse. On the non-traditional labor pool, I think the number is
90%-95% of people who work in a Starbucks store today are under age 32-33. It's in that zone. We can get the exact number, but order of magnitude, which is terrific. You know, it actually mirrors the customers that are becoming more and more our primary customer. However, there are other labor pools in the labor market. I can say this with some fidelity. AARP, people over 50, which I am a member of, that's a labor pool that we've historically not marketed to. If you went to the website of Starbucks to look at applying for a job, all the people look like the people who work in our store. They don't look like people who are over 50. That's an example of a labor pool that we think, where it would be tremendous additive to the culture of Starbucks.
It would bring further maturity and stabilization, and those folks are looking for flexibility in their lives, and that's where you are. That's the second question of how to think about expanding labor pool. I also mentioned we wanna think of ourselves as having to continue to grow the labor pool at large, 'cause we're one of the bigger players in the category. We have some ideas on how we might do that. On the scheduling side, it's a two-sided relationship. Firstly, we don't capture today enough information about what your preferences and needs are as a barista. We get a little bit information at the beginning, but there's other information objectives. A, we need to learn more so we can serve you better. We think there are some tools that we're working on currently.
We've done a lot of partner testing as part of a reinvention so far to understand how do you really optimize scheduling so that the store manager's empowered with robust decision support tools across 9,500 stores, but, you know, not PhD level, but using artificial tools for the twenty-first century and get the information from the partner. We think there's a lot of value unlocked in just getting a tighter connection or synchronization between what your preferences are as a barista and how we wanna optimize the schedule. You know, it's not an overnight thing. It's a complicated problem set, but it's one that we have high conviction already, just doing some of the early analytics, that there's a big value unlock for partners and for the performance of the store itself.
Yeah. Hi, all. Great presentations. Stephen Boland. Just wondering, how do you measure partner engagement and connection, and how do you know if you're at a desirable level or not?
We have a kind of a model we call it listening strategies. What are the listening strategies in an affirming, you know, a transparent listening approach. We have some tools we use that we measure weekly sentiment, one or two questions just to get a kind of a pulse. Then we have a slightly more elaborate model that we do quarterly. The meta question is, would you recommend Starbucks to a person to come work? That's, like, the highest level order question. Then there's questions that sit underneath that. We have a pretty finely tuned system now for listening, that's short interval, longer interval. Having said that, I think it's still ripe with opportunity 'cause it still averages.
If you go back to the earlier discussion today about personalized journeys for different cohorts of partners, we think there's an opportunity over time to fine-tune the questions to better make sure that we're meeting your specific needs as opposed to my specific needs. I think part of the agenda for innovation and better meeting needs is getting better at listening. The last point I'd make is you've heard in some of our narrative, including the earnings call, we've always been a pretty good listening company, but now we're trying to become a co-creation company. That, you know, it makes for good rhetoric, but it's not a natural act at our scale, and we're working really hard.
I think you've seen a lot of co-creational themes today, and we think that the partner can have an outsized influence in how we think about that going forward as well.
I think we're gonna close it, okay? Well, first off, it's been a long day. You've been great. We've really thrown a lot at you today. You've all been present, and I can't thank you enough on behalf of all of us at Starbucks for coming to Seattle, listening to our story. I hope that when you walk away, you're struck with a few things, that this is a team of people that represents 450,000 Starbucks partners, and we take that responsibility to heart. We understand how hard people are working, the changes and the pressures on workforces in general. We wanna do everything we can as a leadership team to make our people proud.
We also realize the fiduciary responsibility that we have to do everything we can to meet our financial obligations. What we share with you today is our promise to you that we're gonna do everything we possibly can to make you proud of your investments, your recommendations, and your involvement with Starbucks Coffee Company. We stand here on this stage representing a lot of people. The one thing I wanna do, and I hope you'll join me, is that there's a lot of Starbucks people in the room. I'd like you all to stand up and to be recognized for everything you do on behalf of the company. Please stand up.
Once again, I wanna recognize our international partners who have come far. I think it speaks a lot about your relationship with the company. We'll see you all tonight. We'll celebrate the day. Again, thank you all very much. We'll see you soon, either in New York or California or wherever you are, and do everything we can to be as present and visible, so we can stay in contact with you. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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