Good morning.
My name is Virgil, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Shopify Third Quarter 2017 Financial Results Conference Call. Thank you. Katie Keita, you may begin your conference.
Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We are glad you can join us for Shopify's 3rd quarter 2017 conference call. We are joined this morning by Toby Luedtke, Shopify's CEO Harley Finkelstein, our dynamic Chief Operating Officer and Russ Jones, our CFO. After prepared remarks, we will open it up for your questions. Once again, today, we will make forward looking statements on the call.
These are based on current assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. We undertake no obligation to update these statements except as required by law. Information about these risks and uncertainties is included in our press release this morning as well as in our filings with Canadian and U. S. Securities regulators.
Also, our commentary today will include adjusted financial measures, which are non GAAP measures. These should be considered as a supplement to, not a substitute for GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations between the two can be found in our earnings press release, which is available on our website. And finally, note that because we report in U. S.
Dollars, all amounts discussed today are in U. S. Dollars unless we tell you otherwise. With that, I turn the call over to Toby.
Thanks, Katie. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining the call. This is going to be a fun one. Let me get started by saying I personally love his experience of taking a company from nothing and growing and to be a trusted public company.
What I get out of this journey is helping you to learn about such a large variety of different things. I love learning about new things. So this quarter, we learned about something new that I haven't fully encountered before. And I realize that many people on this call are here because you would like us to talk about that. For those who don't know, during this quarter, we were targeted by a short selling troll who made all sorts of preposterous claims.
Before we get into it, I want to address some criticism that the company didn't respond strongly and quickly enough. We take this as constructive feedback, but our rationale is the following. All of us at Shopify are laser focused on building a valuable and doing company. We are busy growing our merchant base, launching new features, getting everyone ready for Black Friday and Cyber Monday, which is coming up soon. And I honestly believe that the best companies do not engage in short term stock price sort of management, if you will, and neither do we.
Some days, the stock is higher and some days, it's lower. But over the course of years, I will approximate to how well the company is doing. So given that, and as I tweeted, we will deal with this during the financial call because this is the time we reserve quarter for these kind of activities. So I want to correct three key points of misinformation. And just to be absolutely clear, we consulted with outside legal counsel and also that also categorically dismissed these claims as unsubstantiated.
I can definitely state that, 1, we do not sell business opportunities, we sell a commerce platform 2, we comply with FTC rules and consistently inform our affiliates of illegal obligations and 3, we do not promise merchants success. Far from it. In fact, most of our content is about how hard entrepreneurship is because it is hard and we are here to help those who are willing to try it. Every 90 seconds, an entrepreneur makes their first sale on our platform. We celebrate and cherish this accomplishment because it's not easy.
This is what we are most proud of, so implying that these businesses are somehow illegitimate as an insult to their hard work. And here's a really important piece that somehow got missed. While we see ourselves as a catalyst ambition and we strive to lower the learning curve for entrepreneurship so everyone can participate. Most of our revenue actually comes from a merchant successfully selling on Shopify. The more merchants sell, the more payments we facilitate, the more shipping we assist with, the more working capital we provide.
This is how we have been able to deliver results that we do quarter after quarter because our merchants are succeeding. So even though some entrepreneurs will fail and stop paying $29 per month for their store, 100 of 1,000 are thriving and we thrive alongside them. Okay. I hope this clears up things on the matter. Let's move on.
I want to talk about why we are so well positioned to be a 100 year company. Companies that want to be around 400 years need to solve a real problem in the real world. Now I realize that Silicon Valley has sort of ruined the phrase, change the world for all tech companies. But I want to say that we are trying to change the world in one significant way and that we don't use this as some phrase for just promoting some new app in the App Store. When you open The New York Times Business section, what you will read is that small companies are struggling and big companies are getting insanely big.
There's a little variance in noise in this data because non digital companies of all sizes are failing at the same time, but overall, that's a trend. I don't have the time here to dig in why this is, but the change we want to make is that we want to give the small business a chance to survive and thrive. The world needs millions of small businesses to ensure sustainable future for our economies and jobs instead of a handful of mega companies. We are fully focused on retail and commerce and here are a few trends that we are seeing and which we are supporting to make this happen. 1st, slow and long established large retails are vulnerable to disruption by laser focused small brands that share common values with their customers.
Retail is shifting to a form of experience with an emphasis on storytelling and that gives small business a leg up. 2nd, 2nd, manufacturing is changing. Most brands in the world get their products created in the same factories. But today, small business can access high quality manufacturing sites, which would previously have been prohibitive due to CapEx. 3rd, innovation in the supply chain shipping are leading to a new kind of approach, one that is forcing big chains in the retail landscape.
The winning formula for retail is now an asset light infrastructure combined with a highly personalized and interactive consumer experience. Finally, tools like Shopify, with its built in data reporting, inventory tracking, shipping, retail stores, social channels, multichannel in general actually mean that new businesses on day 1 are using better technology than any of their competitors in the You put all these things together and end up with a new formula. Not everyone can wrap their heads around this new retail distribution model though. They think for some reason that there's something wrong with not holding any inventory and building a drop shipping business or it's not having a brick and mortar store at a time when physical stores are closing record numbers or that not having tens of 1,000,000 of dollars of sales means that you don't exist. We fiercely disagree.
While we do have stores selling tens or even 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars a year on Shopify, because of the changes I just described, we have many, many stores just getting launched. All kinds of merchants use Shopify. They have the creators and innovators. They have students trying to pay for school. They have a little art gallery around the corner.
They are merchants that have scaled from 1st sale to multimillion dollars. You saw some inspiring examples of these at our Build A Bigger Business celebration just last month when we took them to ring the bell at the New York Stock Exchange or at any of our numerous shop class events all across North America. Of course, it would be easier for us to focus exclusively on serving never gone for easy. What we do instead is grow this market, invite people to try building new businesses, tell them what we need to know be honest with what they need to hear. All future big success stories have started somewhere.
With that, I'm going to give it over to
Holli. Thanks, Tobey, and good morning, everyone. In the Q3, we kept up our relentless pace of innovation and simplification, particularly in areas that directly help merchants get ahead of their biggest selling season of the year. This means exciting developments, not just across our own platform, but also within our partner ecosystem and at Shopify Plus. The number of channels over which merchants can list and sell their products to new audiences continues to expand.
We've added shopping on Instagram as a channel to tens of thousands of merchants and the channels SDK we made available last year continues to be leveraged by new channels. For example, List, the global fashion search engine is now integrated into Shopify, allowing our merchants to access their 60,000,000 shoppers from 200 countries. We expanded the capabilities of Shopify Shipping both in terms of functionality by adding bulk label printing and by integrating a new shipping carrier DHL to augment USPS and Canada Post. With DHL Express, our U. S.-based merchants can now ship internationally more easily at better rates and with free pickup directly through the Shopify platform.
Since our last call, we've made a number of enhancements to help merchants their businesses. We expanded our marketing analytics capability so that merchants can now easily see all the results of their marketing activities even when they're done via 3rd party apps. We added 8 new reports from merchants on the basic plan, giving them greater insights into their visitors, where they come from, where they land and what they're looking for. And just yesterday, we launched the eBay sales channel, which gives Shopify merchants the opportunity to service their brand and products to a massive new audience of more than 100 and 69,000,000 active eBay buyers. Let me now take a few minutes to provide an overview of our partner ecosystem, the value it delivers for merchants and how we compensate our partners.
It's important to understand that Shopify partners help our merchants at every stage of their business. And of the 14,000 partners who referred merchants to Shopify over the last 12 months, the large majority of them provide additional value added services to help merchants build and grow their business. These include initial store setup, app and theme development and services like photography, marketing, SEO and brand strategy. Any one of these partners can refer new merchants to Shopify and get approved as a value added partner or an affiliate if they qualify. For instance, it may make sense for an app development agency who built apps for shops to refer new merchants to Shopify using a link on their company blog.
It is also important to note that our partners do not get paid to recruit other affiliates or partners nor do they get paid for anything other affiliates or partners do. These affiliate partners are mostly bloggers, publishers and business coaches who refer new merchants to Shopify. Our team individually approves every affiliate partner who applies after looking at their website, their profile and whether they're a fit for brand. Once approved, we our affiliate partners typically earn an upfront commission for each referred merchant. As we said in the past, our partners are a part of our competitive advantage and help us identify potential merchants we may not otherwise be able to reach.
Our partner ecosystem continues to grow and the tremendous value it brings to merchants is unmatched in our industry. We've built strong relationships with thousands of partners globally and are aligned economically in our mission to help merchants over the long term. Moving on to Shopify Plus, with continued upgrades, the execution of our sales hackers and our partner ecosystem, Shopify Plus drove a record number of launches in Q3. These included brands like the Phoenix Suns, Arby's, Josie Marons cosmetics line and earlier this month fashion powerhouse Rebecca Minkoff. A number of branded consumer packaged goods also launched including the gourmet and iconic mustard brand, Maye, Blue Diamond Growers and Beernuts, as did companies selling the coolers to put them in, including both Igloo and Yeti.
Muffers Express also launched on the platform in the quarter, showing that the demand for digital commerce goes far beyond traditional consumer goods. I love this list because it illustrates the new ways brands are interacting with the consumers and using Shopify to do it. To accommodate the rapid growth of Shopify Plus, we will be expanding our footprint in Waterloo with the opening of a second location slated for Q1 of next year. We expect to add hundreds of jobs in the next 2 to 3 years across sales, sales support and R and D in the region. We are excited about what we are building at Shopify and the positive impact we are making on the world, on the communities of Waterloo and the other 6 cities we call home, on the value propositions of our partners and on the lives and livelihoods of our merchants globally.
Our passion for disrupting the status quo and empowering merchants to grow their businesses will continue to drive our roadmap. This is what we live for. As we move into the busiest selling period for our merchants, we are ready to help them have their best selling season ever and we look forward to helping new merchants realize their potential. At Shopify, we strongly believe that entrepreneurship is the foundation of the global economy and it's not easily done alone. That is why we've made it our life's work to encourage anyone, anywhere to become an entrepreneur.
And with that, I will turn it over to Russ to cover the financials.
Thanks, Harley. Our results in the 3rd quarter once again highlighted the strength of our business model and our strong position to leverage the favorable trends in retail that Toby and Harley spoke about. In Q3, this meant not just continued rapid revenue growth, but also achieving adjusted operating profitability a quarter sooner than we anticipated and for the first time since becoming a public company 2.5 years ago. We grew revenue 72% year over year to $171,500,000 with both revenue lines contributing to this rapid expansion. Subscription Solutions revenue grew 65 percent to $82,400,000 The underlying monthly recurring revenue also grew 65% and ended the quarter at $26,800,000,000 The slight acceleration over last quarter is due primarily to another record number of merchants paying to run their business on the Shopify platform.
Within this subscription, revenue from Shopify Plus continued to expand. 20% of overall MRR came from Shopify Plus in the 3rd quarter or $5,300,000 compared with 18% of MRR for Q2 of 2017. Merchant Solutions revenue grew 79 percent to $89,000,000 Merchant Solutions revenue is directionally tied to merchant success as this is the part of our business where we deliver back office capabilities that save merchants both time and money, thus allowing them to focus on sales activities. GMV grew to $6,400,000,000 up $2,600,000,000 or dollars or 69 percent from last year's Q3. Gross payments volume was $2,400,000,000 or 37 percent of GMV versus 2.2 $1,000,000,000 or 38 percent in Q2 of 2017.
This slight percentage downtick was driven primarily by the growing mix of GMV and merchants in countries where Shopify Payments is not yet offered. Recall that when merchants use a payment gateway other than Shopify payments, we receive transaction fee revenue as well as in most cases a rev share from that processing gateway. The growth of overall gross margin dollars accelerated to 86% year on year to 100,000,000 dollars This is notable as it was only 3 quarters ago that we first exceeded $100,000,000 in quarterly revenue. This was driven by volume increases as well as improvements in both subscription solutions and merchant solutions margins. Merchant Solutions margins in the quarter benefited from the non Shopify payments fees described above, as well as from the impact of the growing mix of higher compared with a loss of $2,200,000 or 2.2 percent of revenue in the Q3 of 2016.
The adjusted net income for the quarter was $5,000,000,000 or $0.05 per share. This compares with a $1,800,000 net loss or $0.02 per share for the Q3 of 2016. Finally, our cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities balance was $926,600,000 down slightly from the $932,400,000 at June 30, 2017, due to the continued success of Shopify Capital. This working capital financing, which exceeded a cumulative 130,000,000 dollars by September 30 is even more critical as merchants prepare for the holiday season. The popularity of capital underscores how underserved small businesses are.
This is the case not just for working capital, but for other areas as well like payments and shipping. It is through merchant solutions that we meet these needs and this is a key part of our business model. Let me explain. We take our role as a catalyst for new business creation seriously, which means we continually challenge those who want to be entrepreneurs to try it and why shouldn't they? We have dramatically lowered the barriers to starting a business.
What people may not understand about Shopify is that we benefit from more people trying Shopify, not fewer, even if they don't succeed at first. So while this broad based approach means that although not every merchant will be successful, their outlay is low and our business model enables us to offset any merchant losses with the remaining cohort, upgrading plans, purchasing apps, leveraging our merchant solutions and most importantly, making sales. So while there will always be merchants that stop subscribing and we make it easy to do so, these merchants that are thriving on our platform sell more and as they succeed so do we, which is why we work so hard to assist with their success. As we look to the rest of the year, we now expect full year 2017 revenue in the range of $56,000,000 to $658,000,000 and an adjusted operating loss in the range of $1,500,000 to $3,500,000 This means that for the Q4, we expect revenue in the range of $206,000,000 to $208,000,000 and an adjusted operating profit in the range of $2,000,000 to $4,000,000 We expect stock based compensation will be $54,000,000 for the full year, which puts $16,500,000 of this in the 4th quarter.
While we will wait for February to comment on our 2018 outlook, I will take this opportunity to remind investors of the following. As we continue to grow merchant solutions revenue, we will see a larger impact of seasonality in Q1 versus Q4 results. Although foreign exchange has a minimal impact on revenue, it can have a significant impact on operating expenses of which approximately 50% are in Canadian dollars. And although we have clearly demonstrated our ability to achieve adjusted operating profit, our focus continues to be on growth. Said another way, giving both the growing opportunity set and our long term focus, we will continue to prioritize adding merchants to the platform and rapidly increasing its capabilities.
And with that, I'll turn it back over to Katie to start the Q and A.
Thank you, Russ. We have about 40 minutes for questions this morning and a lot of people in queue. So I would ask that you limit yourself to just one question, please. Virgil, can we start pulling for questions, please?
Certainly. Your first question comes from Ken Walton, Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Hi, Toby and Harley, thank you guys for clarifying the misinformation about your partner channel. Can you maybe elaborate a little bit on just maybe what kind of mix you see from those various channels? And then any changes that you guys might be thinking about implementing in terms of how you guys approve partners?
Hey, there. It's Harley. So I'll take that question. So when we talk about the thousands of partners that excuse me, reverse merchants over the last 12 months, the majority of those partners are value added partners, meaning these are people that are doing services for merchants. So they may be setting up their stores, building a custom app, maybe helping with things like product photography, or even doing some SEO optimization for those partners.
That is the majority of the partners that we see, come in. In terms of the affiliate partners, that is a fairly strict process. In fact, I think there was an analyst that wrote a post a couple of days ago or a couple of weeks ago about trying to become an affiliate partner being rejected. The reason for that is because every single affiliate partner that we bring on to the platform has to be fully vetted. And once we agree that there's someone that could refer business to us, they have to comply and agree to our partner terms, which specify all FTC regulations.
So as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, our partners in general typically bring us merchants that may not otherwise know about Shopify and that gives us a great advantage.
Thank you. Next question please.
Your next question comes from the line of Richard Davis from Canaccord. Please go ahead.
Hey, thanks. Just real quick. So I noticed you guys launched and you kind of touched on this, the marketing analytics tools that actually look pretty slick with regard to attribution. I didn't see it didn't look like this was an add on in terms of cost. So the question is, is it free?
And then more broadly, just kind of how do you think about adding kind of features, some free, some not? I also saw like Kit is now free, because we've seen this with HubSpot has done a pretty good job of kind of titrating free stuff, not free stuff to kind of improve on ramps and retention? So just broadly, how do you kind of think about these things? Thanks.
Yes. I think one thing that's so unique about Shopify is just our ability to ride alongside the success of our customers. It's just superior to probably most other places in the SaaS space. So like we go through an entire like a big decision making process every time we are rolling out something new, figuring out in which plans does it fit and so on. But the things we rolled out here, like people need to know where their traffic comes from because it allows them to direct their spend afterwards.
Better directed spend, marketing spend ends up making the business more successful, which is our prime objective with Shopify. So these are included in our plans and analytics and just in general data work is the kind of thing that really makes people more successful, more sophisticated. So we give that away.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you, Richard.
Your next question comes from Mikhail Badani from Mackie Research Capital. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks guys. I just wanted to clarify if you've had any sort of conversations or discussions with the FTC in the past call it 3 weeks or so since the short report? And if so, sort of if you could maybe just give us a quick update on that? Thanks.
We did not. We have not been contacted by the FTC and had contact with them on this matter. If there would be anything material, this would have been part of our disclosure. So nothing to report.
Thanks, Nikhil. Next question, please.
Your next question comes from Colin Sebastian from Robert Baird. Please go ahead.
Great. Thank you. My question is related to integration with marketplaces. First, with respect to Instagram in terms of any early reception to that channel or any commentary on volumes? And then more broadly, I know many of us think about these as incremental sales channels for your clients.
But I wonder if the reverse is also true, meaning that you're seeing new customer volume coming to Shopify, specifically as a result of the integration and perhaps merchants that want to diversify away from the large scale platforms? Thank you.
Yes. There's a lot of angles to this. So yes, is the quick answer. Like people come like I mean for our existing customer base, we want people to be able to sell through every app like for every icon on their phone's home screen. I said this before, but Instagram is on almost everyone's home screen.
So now merchants can sell through that. And by the way, the Instagram experience specifically is fantastic. It's a really, really great channel. We do have people come sign up for shops for the first time because they might actually have run a business on Instagram. This is especially in some countries, this is very common form of e commerce.
So that's really good. And in some cases, I like this works across the entire spectrum of Shopify. So it's not just new businesses like being launched to be Instagram focused. Often, it's actually like potentially a Plus customer, a new Plus customer we pick up because even though they have an existing e commerce system, they sign up for Shopify just to be able to take advantage of 1 or many of our channels, which their current systems don't offer. And of course, this gives great potential for land and expand to us.
So this strategy of multi channel platform has just been very strong.
Thanks, Colin. Next question please.
Your next question comes from Jonathan Kees from Summit Redstone. Please go ahead.
Great. Thank you for taking my question. And that was great for addressing those claims head on. That is very much needed. If I can just add to that and suggest that continued disclosure of like the merchant count or more information disclosure like of the mix, the revenue mix of the how you get your revenues between partners versus organic, for example.
And within the partners, you talked about the affiliates, how much they are versus the rest, that's always helpful. My question is for the claims that you see on social media, are you looking to police some of them, making sure that they are affiliates, that they are certified with you? And if they're not, kick them out or at least not associating themselves with Shopify? Thank you.
Hey, it's Harley. I'll take that question. So just to be clear, some of the allegations about these so called affiliates of ours, some of them are actually not even selling Shopify. In some cases, they're selling at their own course where they're teaching things like digital advertising or digital commerce. And Shopify happens to be a piece of that course.
So in some cases, it actually is not they're not even affiliates of ours. In other cases, the ones that actually are affiliates, these are people that I've been vetted and we have a team of people as I mentioned that manually approve these affiliates and those that don't comply, we simply kick out of the program and we're consistently monitoring this. We have a team of people here who are focused on ensuring that our affiliate quality is always very, very high. So just to be clear, some of those are simply not even Shopify affiliates that were alluded to.
Your next question comes from Monika Garg from KeyBanc. Please go ahead.
Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I have a question on shipping. Currently, you're shipping in U. S, Canada, you announced DHL.
Maybe talk about what are your attach rates and where attach rates could go forward in these geographies? And also when do you look to announce shipping partners in other geographies like UK, Australia? Thank you.
Yes. So I'll take that one. It's Russ. So as we've said before, shipping, we think it's another big pain point for our merchants. So it's an area that we're really focused on to help them sort of get to the point like with payments where they just don't have to think about things like the shipping side of it.
To date, our focus has really been North America. We've been adding new carriers to that. We've been adding new capabilities. The most recent one with DHL also allows the U. S.
Merchants to more cost effectively sell internationally. So that's really been the focus. Similar to payments, we do see other geographies as a potential for shipping, but that's a later activity for us. In terms of the other piece, we continue to see the number of merchants using shipping in both Canada and the U. S.
Increase. Roughly 30% of our U. S. Merchants where we're we have the addressable side of it are using Shopify Shipping and in Canada that's roughly 20%.
Thank you. Thanks, Monica. Your
next question comes from Jesse Helfstein from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Yes. Thank you. I wanted to follow-up, Russ, on your comment about GPV percentage and that ticking down due to international mix. First, can you remind us of your plans for payments rollouts
internationally? I think that would
be helpful. And also how do you expect GPV percentage of GMV to trend over the next few quarters? Do you expect it to tick back up or do you think it will flatten out around here? Thank you.
Yes. I mean, it's hard to say, particularly with the sort of the holiday period because you'll also see some larger Plus merchants that use their own payment system also have a bigger impact in the Q4, for example. But we continue to have success internationally. And so that is one of the factors. We also see an increase in non credit card activities on the platform as well.
And so that's because we're primarily doing credit card processing on payments is a factor in place. Just to sort of add a little bit more color, if you actually take it to the decimal place, in Q2, it was 37.6% and in Q3, it was 37.3%. So when you round it, it looks like a bigger delta than it actually is. In terms of our plans, we've pretty well covered our current core geographies with payments. We just recently announced that in Singapore.
So you'll see us continue to add new regions over the next sort of 12 to 18 months as well. So kind of continuing on the path that we've been on.
Thanks, Jesse.
Your next question comes from the line of Richard Tse from National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.
Yes, thanks. You talked about Q3 being potentially an investment period. I kind of read that to mean that there might be some pressure in the quarter on margins, but the margins seem to be picking up. So should we take that to mean that the investment wasn't as big as expected or that the operating leverage is continuing to pick up here?
It's probably more of the latter that we are not only seeing the operating leverage on expenses, but in terms of the impact of some of our higher margin businesses like shipping capital, even some of the transaction fees I talked about contributing there. On the subscription side, we're still in the process of testing out the cloud as part of our offering there. And so there is sort of a bit of timing there. We've been able to reduce a little bit of the capital in terms of servers that we need in our data centers. So there is sort of an impact of just that sort of rollout.
This year is very much a hybrid approach. And so we do see some duplications in the short term.
Thank you, Richard.
Your next question comes from Michael Minerals from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
Thanks for taking my question. It looks like when I strip out Plus, the MRR from the core business actually accelerated. So really not a question there. But on the Plus side, given the value prop that you guys are offering, particularly for the larger established brands, Do you expect to increase the economics? I know you charge a fee 25 bps over $10,000,000 Any thought to changing that?
And then also, Harley, if you maybe could, I think you've given us an update on the Plus customer count in the past and also the mix of the Plus merchants, the percent of them coming from net new versus homegrown? And then lastly, on the Plus sales force, maybe you can tell us the size of that so we can evaluate whether that growth in Plus MRR can remain above 100% for a longer period of time? Thanks. Hey, Michael, it's Harley. I'll take that question.
So in terms of the pricing, which we announced earlier this year, the real reason for that is we want to set ourselves up for the future. So by providing those that 25 basis points, it means that as merchants grow really, really large in the platform, we actually do share in that success. And so that's the reason why we made that change. And so don't expect that we'll change the pricing again anytime soon, but because we think we're set up really well for that. In terms of the split between upgrades versus net new, the majority of new Plus merchants for the quarter were net new to the platform.
And that's not too surprising. I mean, our sales team is really ramping up. But also most of the merchants that are on the platform that should have been on Plus have upgraded too. And really the focus is on net new to the platform. So you should continue to see that in the future.
And then finally, in terms of the sales force, our sales hackers, there are now dozens of them and we continue to build on that. As you may have heard in my prepared remarks, we are also expanding our presence in Waterloo to accommodate more sales hackers and more R and D folks focused on Shopify Plus. And so it's a really exciting piece of our business.
Great. Thank you, Michael.
Your next question comes from Gaspi Georgiou from Macquarie. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks for taking my question. Russ, just on the Merchant Solutions, I mean, look at gross margins have expanded over 100 basis points year over year. Can you just dive into that a little more, kind of break it down for us? I mean, is Shopify Payments now more profitable than it was a year ago? And then just could you give us a sense of capital and shipping, how material it is now?
Or just any sort of detail you can give on that would be appreciated?
Sure. Happy to answer that. In terms of capital and shipping, from a revenue point of view, because we record both on a net revenue basis, little less impact than certainly our payments business, but because the margin is more in line with subscription type margins, again, that's definitely a great tailwind to the margins on the merchant solutions piece. In terms of payments, we have seen improvements. And our agreements that we have in place around payments means that as our volume continues to increase, we do get more favorable rates there.
Also, as I said in the past, international, we do achieve a higher margin than we do on the North American side. So all of those together is what you're seeing on the merchant solutions. Now when you're thinking about Q4, the thing you should remember is, again, a lot of the holiday sort of Black Friday, Cyber Monday activities are a little bit more North American focus where our margins on payments are a little bit lower. And so we do see margins coming down in Q4, which will be offset by improved operating leverage. So net net is why we still think as a percentage, you'll see that adjusted operating percentage improve in Q4.
So you suggest margins on payments will come down in Q4 or in Merchant Solutions in general?
I'm saying Merchant Solutions in general just because of the weighting towards North American payments.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Thank you, Gus.
Your next question comes from Brian Essex from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning and thank you for taking the question. Russ, maybe one for you. In terms of the CFO search, any update there, updates in terms of what you guys are looking for? And as you make your travel plans for the future, any sense of what timing might look like? And then, any insight into with reaching profitability a quarter sooner than expected, what the trajectory of that profitability might look like going forward?
I'll
just quickly jump on the I'll just quickly jump on the CFO search because it's not actually Russ doing it. Good point. So I mean, this is like I kicked this off almost like on last quarterly call, right? So since then, lots has happened, amazing people have put up their hands. We've been meeting great candidates.
I think this is as good as anything any of these search ever goes. So everyone's pretty excited, but I have not much else to report other than that I think this part of the company will remain in really good hands.
And then Brian on your second part, I think as I said in my scripted remarks that our focus is not on profitability, it's still very much on growth. And so even though we did achieve it a quarter earlier and we do expect a strong Q4 on that front as well. Q1 because of seasonality, I wouldn't expect us to be back to that level. And again, as we make investment decisions, you'll see a little bit of a more bumpier ride on that number, as we really want to make sure that the revenue growth continues. Got it.
That's helpful. Thank you.
Thanks, Brian. And I'll just put out another reminder to please limit yourself to one question. Next question, please.
Your next question comes from the line of Justin Furby from William Blair and Company. Please go ahead.
Thanks. I had a question for Toby. Toby, I was looking at Square's GMV trajectory and it looks like from the time that they hit $15,000,000,000 in GMV, it will take them 4 years to get to $60,000,000,000 You guys did $15,000,000,000 last year. And I'm wondering if you think it's fair to compare you guys to Square and suggest that you get to $60,000,000,000 of GMV in 2020? Or do you think there's opportunity where you can actually surpass their pace just given the powerful secular trends you guys see?
Thanks.
So interesting question. I have to admit, I haven't looked at Square's financials, so I'm not very familiar with them. I admire company and in fact feel a little bit of kinship with them because they're sort of looking at similar market segment and I think also working on getting better software into SMBs. And so my relationship to them is on that level. Then once it gets to the numbers, I think every company is kind of in a process of trying to figure out how to build a business model around their mission and the way that ends up being reflected in the numbers.
If it correlates somehow, that's kind of a happy coincidence or but it's not that I'm setting internal goals saying, hey, everyone have a look at Square's financial statement and chase that. That would be a awful way of running a company. So if it ends up looking similar, that's cool, but it would be a complete coincidence. Got it. Thank you.
Thanks, Justin.
Your next question comes from Deepak Mathivanan from Barclays. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. The color on the affiliates and partners were helpful. But maybe more broadly, can you talk about how that channel is for new customer acquisition? And also we noticed that recently you made some changes with the Partner Program 2.0 in terms of the payout structure.
Can you talk about the feedback on that? And should we expect any benefit or impact of financials from it? Thanks again.
Hey there, it's Harley. So we've always talked about that we get merchants from 3 different sort of buckets and one is organic and the other is sort of paid search, different ad, digital ads, paid ads. And the third is our partners. The partners remain probably the in sort of the 3rd spot. We do get more merchants from organic and from our paid advertising.
And then when you look at the partner bucket on its own, as I mentioned earlier, the majority of our partners that are referring merchants to us are these agencies and freelancers all over the world where someone goes in and says they need an online store. And usually by default end up putting them on to Shopify. So that's a little bit of color on that. In terms of the partner payouts, we're always trying to make it that it's easier for our partners to get paid and more convenient, but certainly there is no impact to us around that. One other thing that may be worth mentioning is that a couple of quarters ago, we mentioned the introduction of a new partner program around Shopify Plus.
And those partners tend to be much larger agencies in some cases with hundreds of employees in those agencies and they're bringing us on much larger merchants on the Shopify Plus. So that's a bit of color on the partner program.
Great. Thanks Deepak. Next question please.
Your next question comes from Sam Kamath from Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks for taking the question. I've just got one on the composition of your non Plus merchants. So it looks like GMV per merchant growth has gone negative this quarter. And then if you look at MRR per non plus subscriber, so just isolating it down to those non plus subscribers, that looks like it's been declining for about 5 or 6 quarters at this point.
Can you just talk about what the factors are driving that? How much of that is the mix shift towards international versus mix shift within existing geographies towards lower tier subscriptions or any other color you can provide there?
Sure. I'll take that one. It's Russ. In terms of the GMV per merchant, I mean averages are always a bit misleading in a fast growth company like ourselves, but we did see a small tick down in the quarter there. And to your point, like the international is having an impact there.
It represents if I look at international being sort of our non top four geographies, it accounts now for roughly 20% of the merchant count and about 12% of the GMV. And so these international merchants are newer to the platform, newer to getting up and running. And so we definitely see a little bit of an impact there. We'd expect that to reverse itself in the Q4.
Your next question comes from Sanath Sannana from Stephens Bank. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about the Shopify Plus partner program. I think that in your partner conference in April or May, you announced that you had about 125 plus partners. I was curious how big that base is now and what percentage of your Plus customers are coming from that partner channel? Thanks.
Hey, it's Harley. I'll take that question. So we did announce the Plus partner program earlier in the year and certainly we invited some of those early Plus partners to our Shopify United Conference in San Francisco in an effort to engage and understand them a bit better. The partner program around Plus continues to grow on a daily basis. We're seeing partners that traditionally only referred merchants and worked with merchants on some of the more enterprise platforms that are now really phenomenal partners for us for Shopify Plus and so that continues to grow.
We're also finding some of our core Shopify partners that have decided that they want to focus more on Shopify Plus as well. So that tends to help too. So that continues to grow. It's still in terms of our total merchants on Shopify Plus, It isn't the largest driver, not yet at least, but certainly every quarter we see more and more merchants coming to us from our Plus partners.
Great. Thanks, Samad. Next question, please.
Your next question comes from Thomas Forte from D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks for taking my question. So you were one of the early adopters in allowing merchants to accept Bitcoin for sale in their sites. Given the recent appreciation in Bitcoin, I was wondering if you're seeing any increase in adoption rates for consumers using Bitcoin to pay for products? Thank you.
Hey, I'll take this, Tobey here. So yes, we were early adopters integrated it, I think, I want to say 2012 or something like this, a little bit before Bitcoin sort of generally got into the news. Again, do you see our objective like here at Shopify to just be ahead on the curve on what our customers might need. Like clearly, no one at this point asked us to integrate Bitcoin. But I see one of the many reasons that makes it hard for small businesses to compete with larger ones is just general lack of adaptability.
And this is not to say that that's a shortcoming of the small guys. They just have more important things to do than monitor related tech trends and try to build against the latest things. So we want to inoculate our customers from having to pay attention to everything new that's coming. And so we integrate things early. We build proof of concepts.
We integrate the things that matter into the platform. And that's why we integrate it. In terms of like latest numbers, I mean like Bitcoin is going up just because there's general and military more people are familiar with it. I would say that so far, Bitcoin is more used as a, frankly exceptionally volatile store value rather than a transactional system. There's actually some technical reasons behind Bitcoin that I probably can't get into.
But a lot of people are thinking about how to solve some of those. And in general, it's picking up. This is like I think this Bitcoin thing actually fits sort of into a mosaic of Shopify. Similarly, you might have seen the call we worked on an app recently with a partner with one of our customers called Magnolia, where we integrated Apple's AR kit into their iOS app so that people can just look at the beautiful products that are being sold to Magnolia, like put them into their house, see what they look like at the scale and these kind of things. It's almost a kind of same thing.
So Bitcoin is super interesting. I personally am a strong believer that the Internet will eventually have its own currency or set of currencies or its own sort of Internet native form of transferring value around. If it's going to be bitcoin, can't really say, but we will strongly support all the kind of potential ways of transacting and this is what we do.
Great. Thank you.
Thanks, Tom.
Your next question comes from Ross MacMillan from RBC. Please go ahead.
Thanks so much for taking my question. Russ, we're just about to enter into the seasonally strong GMV period and the Plus pricing changes sort of started to flow through in Q3. I was just wondering if you could remind us approximately of how big that GMV base is for the Plus merchants maybe as a percentage of total? And then for Harley, just on the DHL shipping relationship, did you use a third party to help with the on ramp and integration? Or was that something you did independently?
I know you've used some third parties historically for USPS and Canada Post. Thank you.
Hi, Ross. It's Ross. I'll take the first part of that. I can actually answer the second part, but I'll let Harley do that. So in terms of GMV, our advanced and our plus merchants account for over 50% of the GMV.
So the new pricing in place in advance of this holiday period, we expect that to be a good sort of tailwind for what the quarter will look like and how we sort of really modeled our guidance on that?
Hey, it's Harley here. Just on the DHL Express integration. So we work directly with DHL on that. And one of the reasons that we are especially excited about this particular one is that more than 10% of the millions of packages that are sent every month by Shopify merchants are actually sent internationally. And so DHL Express opens up some incredible shipping opportunities and for further merchants that traditionally they may have not had.
Great. Thank you.
Your next question comes from Kevin Krishnaratty from NRIGAN Capital.
Please go ahead. Good morning. Just a question on the subscription revenue growth strength and acceleration there along with your record ads and Plus stores being added. Just wondering if you can comment on any differences on the seasonal retail push versus last year, meaning did you see any merchants adding more apps and themes in advance of the Q4 period? Any differences there?
Or do we think that you're still going to see some upside related to that kind of retail activity to come in Q4? Just wondering if there was any kind of pulling in from what you typically would see in Q4 into Q3?
This is Russ. Nothing really in terms of stuff being pulled in. I think, again, we just have more merchants that have come to us directly who are also telling their friends and we continue to invest wisely on the paid advertising. And I think we've talked with a number of points on the partner stuff, so all of that. In terms of the growth in apps and themes, I mean, we continue just to see a steady climb there.
So again, not expecting any sort of big movement one way or the other.
Thank you.
Thanks, Kevin.
Your next question comes from James Kaczak from Monness, Crespi, Hardin. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks. Could you just give an update on your offline efforts, the card reader and just kind of the degree of prioritization there? And then just real quickly with the additional cash on the balance sheet, just how you does it change your thinking on M and A, the size, scope of it? Thanks.
So in terms of the cash, nothing really new to report on that. I mean, we really were looking to get some pretty
attractive
pretty attractive offering that we've rolled out there. We expect to continue to invest in this area. Our point of sale channel is our 2nd biggest channel next to the online store and so it is really an important focus for us.
Thanks, James. Next question please.
Your next question comes from Brian Peterson from Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Yes. Thanks for taking the question and I appreciate the color on eliminating some of the noise out there in the market. But from my end, I just want to understand some of these new market places and partnerships that you guys have announced. If I think about your Shopify Plus customer base, how are they addressing those opportunities today? Do you see that mostly as greenfield or they do not have sophisticated strategies for those markets?
Just curious how we should think about that. Thanks.
I guess that I mean, it's a case by case like if you talk with the existing merchants, I mean non consumption is number 1, right? Like as in like, sorry, it's like weird term to use, but most just don't use it. Most just make their maybe their own Facebook posts or something like this. They don't use like an integration or automated system behind it. Almost every business is on Instagram, but they don't necessarily annotate their post, the various products that are in it so that people can buy them right there.
So a lot of this is new. And for the ones who have existing systems, they are often in a more even more crazy kind of state where they have every one of these channels, they are actually adopted and use like a different either point solution or sort of the built in system like the eBay Seller Central to sell you surplus things. This is a lot of workable, but it creates a lot of internal complexity just because once you sell in multiple channels with a non integrated system, now you have inventory problems, you have to sync products might double sell overnight in these kind of situations. So then people do bucket allocation of inventory, which means they sell out before they actually sell out it. So essentially life gets significantly better once all these channels get integrated in.
And this is one of the reasons why we actually have seen adoption of Shopify minus the online store in the plus world.
Great. Thanks, Tobey.
Thanks, Brian. Next question, please.
Your next question comes from Darren Aftahi from Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking
my questions. Just could you talk to any kind of growth acceleration you saw in plus MRR and I believe that was 20% in the quarter of total MMR. Just kind of curious as a derivative where you see that as a percentage of MRR long term? Thanks.
Yes. I mean, I don't think we have a sort of a set target. I mean, it continues to grow. I mean, it went from 18% in Q2 up to the 20% last year quarter the same quarter in 2016, it was 15%. So we just think, again, as we continue to have success there and the fact that the price point is higher that will drive up that MRR.
Great. Thanks, Darren.