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Earnings Call: Q1 2020
Apr 29, 2020
Greetings, and welcome to the SiteOne Landscape Supply First Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr.
John Guthrie, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you, and good morning, everyone. We issued our Q1 2020 earnings press release this morning and posted a slide presentation to the Investor Relations portion of our website at investors. Siteone.com. I'm joined today by Doug Black, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Scott Salmon, Executive Vice President, Strategy and Development. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that today's press release, slide presentation and the statements made during the call include forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
These statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations and projections. Such risks and uncertainties include the factors set forth in the earnings release and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Additionally, during today's call, we will discuss non GAAP measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. A reconciliation of these measures can be found in our earnings release and in the slide presentation. I would now like to turn the call over to Doug Black.
Good morning and thank you for joining us today. In light of the COVID-nineteen impact, we are going to modify the format of this call versus our typical earnings call. I will start with a review of how we've responded to COVID-nineteen and discuss the initial impact we've seen on our business, as well as our strategy for navigating through the year. John Guthrie will then walk you through our Q1 financial results in more detail and provide additional information on our balance sheet and liquidity position. Scott Salmon will discuss the new companies we've added in the Q1 and how we plan to navigate the short term challenges from an acquisition standpoint.
And at the end of the call, I will discuss some of the trends that we are seeing in our specific end markets and address our outlook before taking your questions. Before I jump into our actions, let me first say that our thoughts and prayers go out to all of those who have been impacted by COVID-nineteen. This is a terrible pandemic unlike anything we've ever seen and the effects on people across the world and on our communities and economy have have been unprecedented. Given that, we feel very fortunate to be here at SiteOne. We are a financially strong industry leader and part of an industry that has been deemed essential to the maintenance, safety and welfare of our communities during this pandemic.
Further, I cannot tell you how proud I am of the Saewon team and our culture of teamwork, service and commitment to excellence. In this time of crisis, our team is shining and playing a real role in the continued safety and success of their fellow associates, our customers, our suppliers and our communities. The team has adapted very quickly and is clearly stepping up to the challenge. And I believe we are having significant positive impact on all stakeholders during this crisis. I also believe that we will be a stronger team and business when we come through this challenging time.
I'll start on Slide 5 to walk you through our actions to manage through the COVID-nineteen challenges. In the very early stages when COVID-nineteen was becoming an issue in China, our supply chain team leveraged our national distribution center network to proactively secure ample quantities of product sourced from overseas. We also created heavy inventory positions in general as we anticipated a very strong spring season. Accordingly, we are in good shape on inventory with only minor product shortages despite the disruptions in both the global and U. S.-based supply.
As COVID-nineteen spread rapidly in the U. S, we quickly rallied our team around 4 fundamental near term objectives. First, keep everyone safe in the coronavirus world. This includes obviously our own associates and their families, but also our customers, our suppliers and our communities. 2nd, serve and support our customers better than anyone else in the industry.
3rd, manage our business to the lower short term demand. And 4th, make sure that we're taking care of all of our associates all along the way. All four objectives are critically important in order to successfully manage through this crisis, while protecting our culture continuing to build our company for the future. So let me describe the actions we are taking to accomplish these objectives. To keep everyone safe in the coronavirus world, we pivoted rapidly to implement all the CDC guidelines and preventative measures.
We have canceled all large meetings, events and most air travel. We have educated our associates on the basic social distancing and hygiene measures and then executed these in our offices and branches. We are leveraging our supply chain to ship and replenish disinfectants, hand sanitizer, paper goods and face coverings to all our facilities. We have also modified our time off policies in order to accommodate associates who are potentially exposed or high risk. With these modified policies, we're being very aggressive about having associates stay home if they have symptoms or are potentially exposed until it is clear that they are not infected with the virus.
We have created a paid time off or PTO donation bank, which has allowed over 250 associates to donate over 6,000 hours of PTO to support over 60 associates who need PTO to take care of their children at home due to the school closings. This is SiteOne teamwork at its best. We have stepped up our communication both to our associates through videos, our intranet and our HR services team and to our customers with regular COVID-nineteen emails and by providing information for them on siteone.com. We have instructed our suppliers to not visit our branches, but instead communicate with us virtually or by phone. And finally, all our field support associates who can work from home are doing so in order to reduce the coronavirus risk in our field support offices.
In terms of branch operations, we quickly modified our branches in order to maintain the 6 foot social distancing standard. In many cases, this meant closing our showrooms and or reorganizing the branch layout. Thankfully, we had just rolled out our barcoding capability with our MobilePro scanners for the spring, which allows us to check out customers anywhere in the branch or yard. This has been a terrific tool to help with social distancing. We also have advertised our online solution and increased our training for customers on how to use siteone.com, has given customers another avenue for ordering along with email or phone without coming into the branch.
Lastly, our teams are practicing good hygiene techniques at our locations to include constant cleaning of high touch and high traffic areas. Today, all branches remain open and are providing excellent service and support to our customers, while ensuring a safe environment for ourselves, our customers and our suppliers. In terms of demand, our sales were very strong through the 1st 2 weeks of March, but began to decelerate in the 3rd week and went negative in the final week of March as COVID-nineteen spread and federal, state and local safety measures and restrictions were put in place. As I mentioned earlier, customer services are deemed essential both nationally by the Department of Homeland Security and by most state and local authorities. However, based on the severity of state and local safety measures and restrictions, certain aspects of our customer services have been prohibited in some markets.
As a result of these restrictions, our organic daily sales growth has been down approximately 11% in April. In fact, that trend has been very consistent from the last week of March through the 1st 4 weeks of April with organic daily sales down 10% to 15% in each week. Furthermore, the restrictions vary significantly by region with a corresponding variance in demand. In the four regions from Texas across the South, including Florida and up through the Carolinas, we have seen organic daily sales growth of 5% to 15% with strong markets and limited restrictions for landscaping. In the 3 most highly restricted regions in the Northeast and Upper Midwest, sales in April were down 25% to 30%.
The 3 regions in the West and Central Plains are showing declines in organic daily sales that range from 5% to 20%. Accordingly, we have been aggressive but very targeted in adjusting our business to the lower demand. With the aid of the CARES Act, we have chosen to use furloughs in order to reduce our staffing in the heavily affected areas and in the associated field support teams. In this way, we can take care of our associates by keeping them on our benefits while they collect unemployment and receive additional funds from the CARES Act. If demand returns, assuming an eventual loosening or removal of restrictions, we can quickly bring our associates back to meet the additional demand and provide our customers with outstanding service.
In addition to staffing, we reduced all other controllable expenses while also tightening capital spending. Our team is seasoned and we have all been through downturns. And so I've been very pleased with the quick action that we have taken to manage our expenses in a declining sales environment. Through all these actions, we are tightly managing our business and taking care of our associates to include those who are on furlough. We took proactive steps to enhance our cash position and increased our financial flexibility by borrowing approximately 100,000,000 dollars on our $375,000,000 asset based lending facility.
We have not used these new funds other than for seasonal investments in working capital. We now have approximately $122,000,000 of cash on hand and approximately $47,000,000 in available capacity under our ABL facility. We also postponed the closing of pending acquisitions further enhance our financial strength and flexibility. When you're in a period of extreme uncertainty like we are today, it is not in the best interest of the buyer or the seller and their associates to complete an acquisition. Additionally, because our deals are primarily negotiated and based on long term relationships, there is a foundation of trust, which allows us to put things on hold and wait for a better time to complete the deal.
Accordingly, our strategy is to wait until the future is more predictable and then resume our acquisition activity. We expect this to be at the very earliest in the second half of twenty twenty. Despite the temporary pause, we remain very committed to our acquisition strategy as a critical means of building our company for the long term. To summarize, I am very proud of how our team has performed in this extraordinary environment to keep everyone safe, serve and support our customers, manage our business to the lower near term demand and take care of each other along the way. Given the difficulty in predicting the severity and duration of the COVID-nineteen impact, we are withdrawing our previously provided 2020 guidance.
However, as the leading distributor to an essential industry, we believe SiteOne remains well positioned to support our customers and navigate this challenging period for the benefit of all stakeholders. We are closely monitoring the trends and adjusting as necessary to perform in the short term, while continuing to build for the long term. Now, John will walk you through the Q1 in more detail.
John? Thanks, Doug. I'll begin with some highlights from our Q1 results on Slide 67. We reported a net sales increase of 10% to $460,000,000 in the Q1. During the quarter, we had 64 selling days, which was unchanged compared to the prior year period.
Organic daily sales increased 5% in the quarter. We saw strong growth throughout the quarter until the end of March when the impact of the restrictions and safety measures resulting from the COVID-nineteen pandemic started impacting sales. Geographically, 9 out of 10 regions had positive sales growth in the quarter. Organic daily sales for landscaping products, which includes irrigation, nursery, hardscapes, outdoor lighting and landscape accessories grew 9% during the quarter due to a favorable weather and strong demand in our end markets. We saw good growth in irrigation and lighting products, especially in Western markets as contractors were able to complete projects with drier weather than last year.
Organic daily sales for agronomic products were down 1% relative to prior year due to a significant decline in the sales of ice melt and associated equipment resulting from the warm winter in northern markets. As Doug mentioned, daily organic sales through fiscal April month to date are down approximately 11% with the greatest impact being in those markets with more restrictive shelter in place orders. Prices were up 0.4% in the quarter compared to the same period in the prior year. For 2020, we now expect limited price inflation of 0% to 2%. Acquisition sales, which reflect the sales attributable to acquisitions completed in both 2019 2020 contributed $21,000,000 or 5% to the overall Q1 growth rate.
As a reminder, in order to maintain maximum financial strength and flexibility, we have temporarily postponed all pending acquisitions. Gross profit increased 10% to 143,000,000 in the Q1 and gross margin decreased 10 basis points to 31.1%. The slight decline in gross margin for the quarter reflects less benefit from opportunistic inventory buys ahead of price increases. More specifically, at the end of fiscal year 2018, we bought ahead of some relatively large price increases from our suppliers. At the end of 2019 and during the Q1 of 2020, those opportunities were much less prevalent.
Selling, general and administrative expenses or SG and A increased 7% to $167,000,000 in the first quarter. SG and A as a percentage of net sales decreased 100 basis points to 36.3%. The reduction in SG and A as a percentage of net sales reflects operating leverage, resulting from the combination of our solid organic sales growth combined with good expense management. As Doug mentioned, we have taken steps to align our cost structure with our current sales volume. We have put in place a hiring freeze, cut back on overtime and temporary labor, completed the planned consolidation of 7 branch locations and furloughed employees in those markets with declining sales volume.
We also expect to see savings in advertising, trade show and events, travel and entertainment and other discretionary spend areas. These intentional actions are in addition to the natural levers like incentive compensation, credit card fees, vehicle expense and fuel costs. While some of these actions will continue for the full year, we are looking forward to ramping back up and bringing our associates back when the sales volume returns. In the Q1 of 2020, we recorded an income tax benefit of $13,500,000 compared to a benefit of $9,600,000 in the prior year period. The change in income tax benefit was due primarily to an increase in the amount of excess tax benefits associated with stock based compensation.
We recorded a net loss for the Q1 of $17,500,000 compared to a net loss of $24,100,000 during the prior year period. The improvement was primarily attributable to a solid sales growth and the increased income tax benefit. Our weighted average diluted share count was 41,800,000 for the Q1 compared to 41,000,000 a year ago. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter improved by 39% to a loss of $3,600,000 compared to a loss of $5,900,000 for the same period in the prior year. The improvement reflects our solid top line growth and SG and A leverage.
Now I'd like
to provide a brief update on our balance sheet and cash flow statement as shown on Slide 8. Net working capital at the end of the quarter was $521,000,000 compared to $483,000,000 at the end of the Q1 of 2019. The increase is primarily attributable to increased inventory levels to support a spring selling season and the working capital added with new acquisitions. Cash used in operations increased to $66,000,000 compared to $49,000,000 in the prior year period. The increase was primarily attributable to the working capital build in preparation for a spring selling season.
As a reminder, due to the seasonality of our business, we typically have negative cash flow from operations in the 1st quarter and positive flow from operations in the second, third and fourth quarters. In addition, we are adjusting inventory levels to reflect our revised sales expectations. We made cash investments of $51,000,000 during the quarter compared to $19,000,000 for the same quarter last year. The increase in cash investments reflects increased acquisition activity in the Q1 of 2020 compared to the Q1 of 2019. Net debt at the end of the quarter was $650,000,000 compared to $627,000,000 at the end of the Q1 last year.
Leverage decreased to 3.2x at our trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA compared to 3.6x at the end of the Q1 2019. The lower leverage primarily reflects our improved profitability. As a reminder, we have no debt maturities until 2024. As Doug previously mentioned, on April 1, we proactively took steps to enhance our cash position and increase our financial flexibility by borrowing approximately $100,000,000 under our ABL facility. We believe that this measure, combined with the action we have taken to reduce our operating expenses and postpone capital expenditures, including acquisitions, gives us liquidity and financial strength to manage through these challenging times.
As of April 27, we had liquidity of approximately $169,000,000 made up of approximately $122,000,000 of cash on hand and $47,000,000 in available capacity under our ABL facility, a $6,000,000 increase since we borrowed on April 1. In summary, our priority from a balance sheet perspective is to maximize our financial strength and flexibility during this uncertain time without sacrificing long term growth or market opportunities. I will now turn the call over to Scott for an update on our 2020 acquisition strategy.
Thanks, John. As Doug mentioned earlier, we have taken the prudent step to reduce our near term capital spending by postponing our pending acquisitions. As the COVID-nineteen situation unfolded, we were very open and transparent with the owners of each company with which we were in various stages of due diligence or negotiation. Like us, they are focused intently on maintaining the health and safety of their associates, customers and their during this extraordinary time. Accordingly, they understand the risks and potential negatives of closing an acquisition now.
They also understand our strong desire to eventually join forces with them and our steadfast commitment to M and A as an important way to build our company. We continue to have a deep pipeline of potential acquisitions and we'll monitor the situation closely so that we are ready to reengage when the market stabilize. With that said, we were pleased to bring 4 companies into the SiteOne family during the Q1 of 2020 as shown on Slide 9. Now, if you turn to slides 10 through 13, you will find information on our 4 most recent acquisitions. On January 2, we acquired Whitpoth Landscape Supplies, which serves the Greater Spokane, Washington market from 2 locations focused on the distribution of hardscape and landscaping products to landscape professionals.
The addition of Wyckoff completes our full product offering in the region and provides cross selling opportunities and purchasing synergies. On January 7, we acquired Empire Supplies, which serves the Greater Newark Union Metro Area of New Jersey from 3 hardscapes and landscaping product locations. This acquisition establishes a leading hardscape platform for SiteOne in Northern New Jersey. On January 14, we acquired the Garden Department, which serves the Long Island market with 3 locations focused on the distribution of nursery and landscaping products to landscape professionals. This acquisition further expands our leading nursery presence on Long Island and fortifies our full product line offering in the market.
And finally, on March 6, we acquired Big Rock Natural Stone and Hardscape, which serves the Greater Greenville, South Carolina market with a single location focused on the distribution of hardscape and landscape supply. The Big Rock acquisition builds an important gap in our hardscapes coverage completing our full product line offering in the Greenville Spartanburg market. Given the pause in acquisition activity, our development team has taken the opportunity to do a thorough review of our acquisition and integration processes. The goal of this effort is to confirm what is working well and identify opportunities for improvement from early negotiation through 3 years post acquisition. We are excited to have this unique opportunity to focus on fully capturing lessons learned and fine tuning our approach for the future.
We look forward to creating even more value through our acquisition growth and performance in the coming years. I will now turn the call back to Doug.
Thanks, Scott. I'll wrap up on Slide 14. As I mentioned earlier, given the severity of COVID-nineteen and the uncertainty that it has created, we are withdrawing our previously provided adjusted EBITDA guidance for 2020. We cannot predict how long this pandemic will last nor the timing and degree of any demand recovery. However, we will continue to take strong actions to achieve the best possible result for our stakeholders.
1st and foremost, we will continue to ensure the safety of our associates, customers, suppliers and communities as we operate in a coronavirus environment. As our country works to overcome this pandemic, we believe that our ability and the ability of our customers and suppliers to operate safely will be critical to successfully beating COVID-nineteen even as state and local governments open the economy. Fortunately, our customers work outdoors and can work safely in all aspects of their business in the coronavirus environment by following the CDC guidelines. As a leader in the landscaping industry, SiteOne can be a positive force in achieving a safe transition over the coming months. In terms of demand outlook, let me first address the impact of COVID-nineteen safety measures and restrictions.
It is very clear that a significant portion of the recent drop in demand is directly related to the severity of state and local safety measures and restrictions. For example, in the upper Midwest, we have 2 contiguous areas, one that includes Indiana, Kentucky and Southwest Ohio and the other area that includes Northeast Ohio and the entire state of Michigan. Our business in Indiana, Kentucky, Southwest Ohio is down 1% in April and our business in Michigan and Northeast Ohio is down 52% in April, which is directly related to the tighter restrictions that applied across the State of Michigan. Fortunately, on Friday of last week, the Governor of Michigan announced that landscaping would be allowed to resume, so we are confident that we will see a significant positive impact in that important state. We are encouraged that other state and local government leaders with very tight safety measures and restrictions are also considering some loosening of restrictions in May.
And we believe if state and local restrictions can safely be reduced or lifted, our daily sales will start to recover. Assuming that restrictions are loosened or removed in May June, we would expect our maintenance end markets, which represent 42% of our business to remain steady. For the residential construction end market, which comprises 26% of our business, we are hearing that builders are seeing a sharp near term decrease in home sales, which will eventually translate in declining demand for landscaping in this market. Even if home sales recover later this summer, we would expect demand from the residential construction end market to be down for the year. For the commercial construction end market comprising 15% of our business, we would expect demand to continue to be solid as our customer backlogs are still full and while we have seen projects postpone, we have not seen many commercial projects canceled.
Finally, we would expect the repair and remodel end market to be dampened somewhat based on the near term unemployment and its impact on consumer sentiment and spending. Given all of these factors, we expect our sales trend to improve somewhat in May from the levels we are seeing now and then recover further during the remainder of the year. Against this backdrop, we will continue to operate across our network to serve our customers safely, while carefully managing staff and expenses and tightly controlling capital expenditures. We will also wait until we can more clearly see the post pandemic market trend in the second half and then carefully and selectively resume our growth through acquisitions. We believe that all of these actions will ensure that we successfully manage our business through this crisis and preserve our liquidity throughout the year.
Lastly, we will continue to make progress on our initiatives to include the assimilation of Mobile Pro, the rollout of siteone.com and the rollout of our transportation management system or TMS. We will also continue to achieve ongoing improvements in our sales force performance, operational excellence and our marketing under our new Chief Marketing Officer. Finally, as Scott mentioned, we will be fine tuning our acquisition and onboarding processes during this temporary pause in acquisition activity. We see this challenging time as an opportunity to make good progress on our initiatives while further strengthening our commercial and operational capabilities for the future. In closing, I would like to continue to create significant value for our customers and suppliers during such a challenging period.
We have a tremendous team and it is an honor to be joined with them as we overcome adversity and deliver value for all of our stakeholders. Operator, please open the line for questions.
Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer Your first question comes from line of Ryan Merkel with William Blair.
So first
off on organic sales, staying consistent through April is a bit better than I expected. I know you hit on the geographies, but what do you think is driving this consistency? And then you mentioned that commercial projects really haven't seen delays or cancellations. Why do you think that is?
Yes. So, the consistency really is driven by the restrictions. I think the restrictions were put in place in late March and kind of evolved through April. And the drop off happened then. And since then, the restrictions really haven't moved.
And so the demand is kind of stuck where it is. We're seeing those being lifted. We mentioned Michigan got lifted on Friday. And fortunately, as those get lifted, you can see the demand come back. So we really feel like the overall trend right now in sales really being driven by the safety measures and restrictions, which we certainly understand those.
And we believe as those are lifted, we'll see a comeback of sales accordingly. So that's what's really driving the consistency. In terms of the commercial market, we haven't seen any cancellations. We have seen jobs pushed, obviously, during this very extraordinary time. And with restrictions, jobs have gotten pushed.
But we haven't seen a lot of cancellations. And that's not to say they won't come, but we haven't seen it. And our project services group that bids on projects for our contractors, etcetera, they saw a drop off in projects that they were bidding on, but they've seen that come back a bit. So we do feel like the commercial market is still solid. The projects are still there.
In those areas that don't have restrictions, we're seeing commercial continue to be strong. So we feel like those projects are underway. Remember, we lag significantly in commercial. So projects are long and we're at the back end of that. So I think folks doing commercial projects want to finish the projects they started and there's still sectors in the economy that are healthy enough to go ahead and complete projects.
Got it. Okay. That's encouraging. And then my second question is on M and A. And you mentioned you could see a pickup in M and A maybe second half twenty twenty.
That's maybe a little earlier than I was thinking. And so I'm curious, in uncertain times like this, don't sellers sort of pull back for a while and wait for EBITDA to expand in higher prices? Or are you getting indications that, hey, as soon as things sort of stabilize, we'll come to the table and sell? Just flush that out a little bit more.
Yes. I will address the kind of strategy and then I will let Scott talk on the specific dynamics with sellers. We stated specifically at the earliest in the second half. So we don't know how long this period of uncertainty is going to last. And again, it could last a lot longer or could be short.
So at the earliest, it's second half. Really the marker there is when we can see what's really driving demand other than these restrictions and we get comfortable with that, that's when we'd be comfortable with, okay, now we know where we are. We kind of have some normal view of where we're going in the future. That view is obviously never perfect, but let's call it a normal uncertainty. And that's when we can pick back up discussions with sellers.
And it works both ways. They want some surety of the future too when they're selling the company and we want surety when we're buying. So that's really the marker. Again, I don't want to imply that we have a crystal ball and can be very specific. We just we know it won't happen over the next couple of months.
It will be at the earliest sometime in the fall, perhaps winter, when that kind of clearer view is there. Scott, you might want to talk about just the dynamic
with sellers. Yes. In terms of the conversations we've had with folks that we were already in negotiation or had handshakes with, Those folks, I think, still remain committed to selling their business. Other folks, it just depends on how they have perceived how they perceive what's going to happen in the future. I believe that we continue to have conversations with these folks, prospective sellers and many of them are still talking about being ready to sell when the economy stabilizes.
So think it's just going to be a matter of a case by case basis like it always is depending on where they are in their decision making process.
Yes. Remember, just remind you that we buy very well run companies. We buy the top companies in the market. So we're not buying companies that would be desperate in these type of times or fixture uppers, right? So the companies we buy tend to have strong teams and they're going to weather this storm as well as we are.
And so, we wouldn't expect to pick up deals kind of out of desperation. It's just all what's the right time and these uncertain times are not the right time to do a deal.
Makes sense. Very helpful. I'll pass it on.
Great. Thanks.
Your next question comes from the line of David Manthey with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning, everyone. First off, I'm interested in the divergence by geography. Doug, when you talk about restrictions, are those restrictions specifically on landscapingconstruction activities of your customers in those areas where you saw them?
Well, yes, the restrictions, we're essential as a provider everywhere, but the restrictions really are on our customers and it varies. In some tighter areas, they're not allowing any type of construction, right, which includes landscape installation. In some places, they're not even allowing landscape maintenance. There's very few by the way, but some are not allowing some of that. So it really varies by state and local county, quite frankly.
But the restrictions are on what our customers can do. And in most states, well, in federally and in most states and local jurisdictions, landscaping is deemed as essential. So landscaping services can be performed. But even in some of those areas, they might allow the maintenance of the landscaping, but new installations like with hardscapes or nursery, etcetera, they wouldn't allow. So those are the variants of restrictions and they're
But you But you're saying that the restrictions, where they were the most strict, they were on specifically landscaping activities and therefore that hurts your business. And then as they ease up into construction and get even less, there was less of an impact on your business. I'm also curious about the South. You mentioned you saw some really strong growth there. I understand the weather was good.
But that's got to be encouraging for you that in areas where there aren't restrictions that you're seeing much stronger levels of customer activity. Can you expand on that a little bit?
Well, yes, I mean, we are encouraged there. In those areas, the states and local jurisdictions have followed basically the Homeland Security guidelines, which landscaping is essential for safety and maintenance and you can do landscaping. And so the customers are hard at work. The markets are strong. The demand is there.
And so we're seeing good activity. One thing I would remind you though in those areas is that a portion of that work is residential new build. And as we mentioned, new home sales have fallen off, but we're still busy completing the homes that were already sold or already started. And so I wouldn't say we need to be careful when we look into the second half, because in those aggressive builder markets, especially in the South, we do expect that demand to drop 3rd quarter and then who knows how long that will be. If people start to resume buying homes in July, then maybe that's a short period of time, etcetera.
So yes, it's strong. Yes, we are encouraged by that, but we also can't be too confident as we look into the second half of stronger sales comps and especially with builders having home sales drop is going to be a negative for our demand in those markets in the second half. Got it. Thanks a lot, Doug. Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Steven Volkmann with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, good morning guys. My question is kind of on the cost side of the equation. And I guess I'm trying to I know you mentioned sort of a laundry list, John, of things that you guys were doing to manage the cost side. And so I guess I'm just trying to figure out how to think about decremental margins. We can sort of make our own conclusions, I guess, about the top line.
But how do we think about sort of gross margin and SG and A performance through this period of negative growth? Yes, that's it. Thanks.
Yes. Obviously, we're taking actions to get our costs in line. About approximately 65% of our cost is labor cost And there is a component of that that is related to kind of incentives. So that goes away. But in general, our strategy is to manage our labor through the volume.
And the first step is really kind of, I would say, hunkering down over time temporary labor, managing hours of operations to do that. Incentive comp already automatically starts coming down. And then as necessary, things like the words very drastic now in very targeted markets, we would actually have to do furloughs like we are currently. So that's I I would say, ballpark range of sixty-forty type of number with regards to the variable versus 6 percent over the range that we're talking about with regards to variance on sales.
Okay. All right. That's helpful. And then, how do I think about the fact that you laid in a little extra inventory here? I don't know if that gave you any better pricing or rebates or anything like that.
I mean is there anything to think about relative sort of gross margin because of that?
I would say gross margin, I think I could think that really the story on gross margin is going to be what happens
in the second half of
the year. With regards to the sales volume, there is probably 2 components. We could receive some pressure on pricing and selling margin if volumes came down. And similarly, obviously, we have some incentive structures with manufacturers and we'll have to see with regards to where those come in. I think, in general, that will be relatively small, but could come under some pressure in the second half depending upon how volumes go with regards to gross margin also.
Okay, great. And then maybe just a quick one for Scott. Once we do start acquisition activities again, do we make up for lost time or do we just sort of go back to the cadence that we were running at before?
I would expect probably not to make up for lost time, but probably to step back into the cadence. It will start off more cautiously and selectively. And then as we gain more confidence and sellers gain more confidence as well, then I would expect it to ramp up. But I wouldn't expect to sort of make up for lost ground.
Your next question comes from the line of Damian Karas with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Hi. Good morning, everyone. Good
morning. So I appreciate all the color you've been able to provide on the variance in demand that you're seeing across different markets because of the restrictions. I was wondering if you could maybe give us some numbers around that though, thinking about the 11% decline run rate that you're seeing right now, how does that sort of break out between the buckets of maintenance versus the construction? And I'd be particularly curious on the regions where you are seeing the steeper declines, the restrictions like in the Northeast and Upper Midwest, where I think you said they were down 25%. How do those 2 those buckets break out?
Yes. That's a great question. We've actually seen a pretty uniform effect on the sector, the different product lines that we provide from the landscaping products to the maintenance products. And so it's been pretty broad and it's been pretty even because the restrictions tend to affect kind of everybody and it affects all parts of our business. And so that's what we've seen so far.
We'll see as things are loosened up, how that affects different product lines. In general, we still expect and we're seeing the maintenance product line is the steady, steady as you go product line and then the bigger variance tends to happen to the landscape and products. But I'd say the effects specifically are pretty broad and pretty uniform across the product lines. So far, what we've seen, both going down and coming back. John, do you want to add?
Yes. I would just add, what we're when we talk about maintenance is being steady and steadier versus construction, that's kind of driven by the economy in the market. When you have a shutdown like this, it's going across all product lines. And so if you were to look at in those markets, let's say, northern markets, they would it's uniformly hitting their maintenance business, it's bending their construction business, both. And so and those and practically also, those are also some large maintenance markets.
So we're seeing right now because we don't it's not economic driven, drop uniformly across every product line in April.
Okay, that's helpful. And then on the inventory situation, it sounds like you guys are ahead of the curve and you bought for the spring season, which seems like was a prudent decision. But just thinking about should some of these persist, which in some regions it seems like that's likely. Based on what you're seeing today, do you are there any shortages in supply that you're potentially foreseeing going forward?
Our supply chain team is one of our strengths and having our DCs to be able to manage our inventory is a great asset for us. We're seeing little small, little shortage here and there on niche products where you have substitutes. So really overall no material issues and we really don't anticipate that. We're in full communication constantly with our suppliers where they've had issues. We've kept our stocks high.
Where we know that our suppliers are solid, we appropriately lower or raise our inventories to meet demand. So far, we haven't had any issues. And early on in this, we didn't know if we would have issues, say, later in the summer. But with things opening up again overseas and with what we see in our suppliers, we don't anticipate having any inventory issues through the year at this point.
Okay, that's great. Thanks guys. Good luck.
Thank you. Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Mike Dahl with RBC. Please proceed with your question.
It's actually Chris on for Mike. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just asking the trends by end market question in a different way. I mean, given maintenance tends to be a more defensive category, do you guys have any numbers or quantifications you provide on how that category has trended in April and maybe some of your less impacted markets like Texas and Florida or how that split looks like across your end markets? Just trying to get a sense of the core demand change versus the impact of the regulatory framework?
The if you were to look at the maintenance, you would see in those markets that are not impacted that the maintenance business is doing significantly better than the 11% that we're seeing in across the company.
Normally, we would expect maintenance to be a low single digit performer, and we're not seeing anything different from that trend in those markets that are less affected.
Okay. That's helpful. Thanks. And then just for my second question, I mean, you guys spoke to delays in the commercial pipeline. Any chance you could provide some quantification around that?
I mean, how much of the pipeline you've seen?
That would help.
Yes. No, we wouldn't be able to get that granular. We're just working off of kind of general. Obviously, there's a lot of complexities in the market. But in talking to our customers and looking at what we're doing with our own bidding and quoting, we feel fairly good about the commercial business, but we wouldn't be able to wrap any specific numbers around that at this point, possibly later in the summer as things evolve from COVID.
Okay. That's understandable. Thanks.
Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Bouley with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, good morning. This is actually, I'm Ashley Kim on for Matt. So the first thing I wanted to ask was on credit our customer credit and receivables. What are you kind of seeing and expecting in terms of customer credit worthiness in this environment?
Obviously, there are some customers who are impacted in our business. We have to work with those customers. Customer relationships are very important to us. Having said that, we've been pleased by performance so far this year. With regards to credit quality, I think it reflects the fact that overall, there's markets that are doing well right now and those customers haven't been quite as impacted.
And even in the I would say, even in the markets that have been most impacted, they really haven't even gotten to start their season. So if you were to look at Michigan or New York Metro area, the kind of COVID came in before really the spring season could kick off. So, they've really been shut down in a lot of cases with regards to that. But so, so far, something we monitor closely. We know there will be challenges for some customers and we'll work with them.
But I would say our credit performance so far has been reasonable.
I would also add that our customers are taking advantage of the payroll protection program and that's been indirectly that's helped us obviously on the receivable side because they've used those forgivable loans to help them to continue to operate in this challenging time. So that's been a good program for our customers to take advantage of.
Great. That's helpful. And then for my second question, kind of as you think about when M and A will pick back up, can you comment on any thoughts that you have around resulting valuation multiples in a recessionary environment? Thank you.
Yes. I mean, as far as when it comes back, we're just going to need to see some increased clarity on the stability in the economy and clarity on end markets. I don't necessarily foresee any I can't foretell any specific change to multiples or valuations. I think both the buyer and the seller have to come to the same conclusion at the end of the day as to we're paying for forward earnings. So both sides have to kind of get to an agreement on that in any case.
So I can't foresee any specific underlying change.
Got it. Thank you very much.
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Are you guys seeing any shifts in residential maintenance away from your customers and towards homeowners given their increased time at home? And then similarly, how are you thinking about the maintenance end market for the impending recession in both resi and commercial?
Yes. For the first one, not materially. I mean, folks that are staying home are involved in lots of activities and anecdotally that might be happening here and there, but by and large our customers are still busy and they've had very few cancellations of their services on the residential maintenance side. In terms of can you repeat the second part of your question?
Yes. Just the second one is during the during recessionary periods, how does the shift change at all between residential and commercial for the maintenance end market?
Right. Maintenance is pretty steady both in residential and commercial, right? So in the last downturn, for instance, when the market new construction dropped 50%, we saw maintenance was off 5% to 8%. So you will see some impact. And I think John, you might want to comment that drop off was pretty uniform across residential and commercial.
Right. Yes. I think in general, you would expect commercial, you really don't have a choice. So it's probably a little bit more stable. But
I would say, you're talking pretty minor variation between the 2. So in most downturns, maintenance is going to hold up in both sectors. And that's what we're seeing today quite frankly is maintenance is holding up well in both commercial and residential.
Okay. Got you. And then the second question is on the material cost side of things. So the company is obviously a much bigger player today than it was back in 2008. And I feel it would give you some procurement benefits leading into next year given your volumes.
So is this a possibility? And what products could see the biggest cost benefits?
I think I don't know if there's going to be a huge impact on cost benefits with regards to that. I mean, I think we have a long term relationship with our supplier and we work with each other on both the up and the down. And so kind of that, while we want to take advantage of our size, I think we need to be cognizant of we have very long term relationships with our suppliers and we work together when volumes come down and also volumes come up. So I while there may be here there an opportunity, I think just as a strategy, it's a long term relationship from that standpoint.
And we work at all times with our suppliers to make sure we get the best cost in the industry. And in that way, we do leverage our size constantly. But like John says that doesn't get better or we continue to do that in the good times and the tougher times.
Okay, got you. And if I could just sneak one more in there. Can you talk a bit about how your revamped ecom platform has benefited you since the shutdown started?
Right. No, it's been a great tool. We've seen some acceleration and our tickets are up significantly in April versus last year. And we're doing a lot of training with our customers. So when this started to hit, it was actually great advertising for online tools that we are doing our best to take advantage of that and advertise that as a much safer way to interact with us.
A customer typically comes in the branch and looks around the branch and gets their goods and then checks out, it's much better for them and us now that we're restricted at the branches somewhat in terms of where they can go and interactions to put that order in online so that we can pull it together for them. They can drive up in their truck and we can lift or load them without them even having to get out of the truck if they want. And I would say having our barcoding Mobile Pro scanners also allows us to do that out in the yard or outside of the brand showroom. So, both siteone.com and Mobile Pro have given us important flexibility and we're taking advantage of that obviously in this crisis and we're trying to we're training our customers to take advantage of that. And then we hope those habits stick once this crisis goes away.
We hope those habits stay and we have new permanent users of type1.com.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session. And I'd like to turn the call back to Mr. Doug Black for closing remarks.
Okay. Well, thank you for joining us today. We very much appreciate your interest in SiteOne. I'd like to repeat our thoughts and prayers go out to all that have been impacted by COVID-nineteen and I'd like to take the opportunity once again to thank our SiteOne associates for being such a terrific team during this tough period and helping us get through in great shape and great style. So thank you and we'll talk to you again after the Q2.