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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Nov 3, 2022

Eric Cerny
VP of Investor Relations, Virgin Galactic

Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Virgin Galactic's third quarter 2022 earnings conference call. On the call with me today are Michael Colglazier, Chief Executive Officer, and Doug Ahrens, Chief Financial Officer. Following prepared remarks from Michael and Doug, we will open the call for questions. Our press release and slide presentation that will accompany today's remarks are available on our investor relations website. Please see slide two of the presentation for our safe harbor disclaimer. During today's call, we may make certain forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions, and as a result, are subject to risks and uncertainties. Many factors could cause actual events to differ materially from the forward-looking statements made on this call.

For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the risk factors in the company's filings with the SEC filed by Virgin Galactic from time to time. Readers are cautioned not to put undue reliance on forward-looking statements, and the company specifically disclaims any obligation to update the forward-looking statements that may be discussed during this call. Please also note that we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial information on today's call. With that, I would like to now turn the call over to Michael.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Good afternoon, everyone. We had a very productive third quarter, making significant progress on our immediate objective of returning to flight and launching commercial service in the second quarter of 2023. We also continued to execute on our long-term business objectives to scale our future fleet. Turning to slide three and today's agenda. We'll start with our commercial readiness efforts, including an update on the enhancement program of our initial ships, followed by progress on our future fleet development. Finally, I'll hand the call over to Doug, who will provide a financial review of the quarter. Let's turn to slide four and a discussion around commercial readiness. As we approach commercial service, we recognize the significance of getting back to the business of space flight and providing our existing customer base with an unforgettable experience.

During the quarter, we made great progress on our enhancement program for our initial ships. Work on VSS Unity is complete, and the ship is ready to commence test flights. We are tracking to have work on VMS Eve completed in the fourth quarter. As a reminder, the modifications we have made are designed to significantly improve the durability and reliability of both ships, enabling a higher frequency flight rate for commercial service. As you can see in the photo from Spaceport America on slide five, one of the final steps in Unity's enhancement program was the design and application of the ship's new livery. With the installation of Unity's enhancements now complete, we anticipate reduced maintenance needs for the spaceship and the ability to support a monthly flight cadence.

On Eve, the new launch pylon has been completed, new horizontal stabilizers have been installed, and upgrades to avionics and mechanical systems are wrapping up. We are now in the process of completing final flight preparation tasks. Subject to successful completion of these tasks, we expect the first test flight for Eve to occur in early January, if not before, with the ship returning to its home base in New Mexico shortly thereafter. After the verification test flights of Eve, we will move to a glide flight of VSS Unity and then to a space flight with Virgin Galactic mission specialist on board. The crew will assess various elements of the astronaut experience and make final refinements to our training program for our first commercial passengers.

As always, our approach to test flights is methodical and iterative, and following the sequence of test flights, commercial service is expected to commence with the Italian Air Force research mission, followed by private astronaut space flights. In the coming weeks, we will begin communicating with our founder astronauts regarding their flight assignments for their life-changing trip to space. I've spoken in the past about the value of our unique customer journey, both as a key product differentiator and as a customer retention and lead generation engine. Key to that is our membership community of future astronauts and the exclusive events and programming that it offers. In late September, we held the inaugural Space for the Curious summit in Wyoming. This is our marquee membership event for future astronauts.

The images on slide six provide a glimpse of the dynamic programming designed to enrich our customers' anticipation and readiness for their space journey. Many of our future astronauts brought friends and family members who were able to interact with our team and other members of the community. We continually hear feedback that this community access and interaction is a key differentiator for Virgin Galactic, and it is something foremost in our customers' minds when they decide to fly with us. Our future astronauts are incredibly excited for us to bring them to space, which is why the launch of commercial service in Q2 of 2023 is so important. Also critical to our success is the ability to grow our fleet. Let's turn to slide seven and our future fleet development.

As we've shared with you before, our production model spaceships, the Delta-class, are intended to materially increase our flight frequency. These ships will be the key driver of revenue growth and profitability for the company. We are leveraging the existing aerospace ecosystem to enable greater speed to market than with a fully vertical operation. Last quarter, we announced our agreement with Boeing subsidiary Aurora Flight Sciences to build our next generation motherships, and we shared that we had issued requests for proposals for major subassemblies of our Delta-class spaceships. As announced yesterday, we have selected two very experienced companies in aviation and aerospace, Bell Textron and Qarbon Aerospace, as our primary suppliers for the Delta ships. As illustrated on slide eight, Bell Textron will supply our unique feathering system and flight control surfaces.

Among many strong attributes, Bell Textron's expertise in tiltrotor technology is complementary to the feather technology used on our spaceships. Qarbon Aerospace, known for its expertise in constructing large, complex composite parts for aerospace and aviation, will produce the fuselage and wing of our spaceships. Along with Aurora, these important relationships propel our production strategy, and we're excited to be joining forces with aerospace companies of this caliber. Work will begin immediately with Bell and Qarbon, and initial production, including tooling efforts, is targeted to begin in 2023. The Virgin Galactic team will retain responsibility for the overall system architecture and design authority for all components. Final assembly and integration of the new ships will be done in our facility in Phoenix, Arizona. Flight test and acceptance testing of the new ships will take place at Spaceport America in New Mexico.

Regarding our next-generation motherships, our collaboration with Aurora Flight Sciences is also progressing well. We will soon be moving into the tooling phase, and the next-generation mothership program remains on track to begin flight testing ahead of the first Delta ship coming off the line in Phoenix in 2025. With this schedule in mind, we are dedicating significant engineering resources to the work that precedes production of the future fleet. Simultaneously, we are focused on the launch and flight consistency of Unity and Eve to begin bringing our customers to space and to demonstrate the value of our product. Prioritizing our resources against these important efforts will likely impact the pace of work on our second spaceship, VSS Imagine, and we are reassessing its schedule for entering commercial service. I'll now turn the call over to Doug for an update on our financials.

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Michael, and good afternoon, everyone. Turning to slide 10 and our financial results for the third quarter. We generated revenue of $767,000 in the third quarter, driven by future astronaut membership and event fees and revenue recognized for research activities. Operating expenses were $146 million compared to $86 million in the prior year period. The increase is primarily attributable to higher R&D costs tied to our fleet enhancement activity and the development work for our future fleet. We reported a GAAP net loss of $146 million compared to $48 million in the prior year period, driven by higher R&D costs and the favorable change in the fair value of warrants in the prior year.

Adjusted EBITDA was -$129 million in the third quarter compared to -$68 million in the prior year period, primarily driven by higher R&D costs. Moving to slide 11, free cash flow was -$107 million in the quarter, slightly less than the low end of our guidance, compared to -$53 million in the same period last year. The increased spending is largely due to higher R&D costs. Our balance sheet remains strong with $1.1 billion in cash equivalents, and marketable securities. We intend to maintain that strength while prudently investing in the business. During the quarter, we raised $100 million in gross proceeds through the issuance of 15.6 million shares of common stock as part of the at-the-market offering announced on August 4, 2022.

At the end of the third quarter, our issued and outstanding share count was approximately 274.5 million shares, while the weighted average diluted share count for the third quarter was approximately 263.9 million shares. For the fourth quarter, we forecast free cash flow to be in the range of -$120 million to $130 million. With that, I'll hand the call back to Michael for some closing comments.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Doug. As we approach our launch of commercial service in Q2 2023, we recognize what a significant milestone this will be for the team, one that advances our mission to become an astronaut-driven, consumer-facing space line. We continue to invest in our team and infrastructure to prepare us for that transition. We have the right structures and leadership in place to support commercial service and fleet expansion. Across the business, I am confident in our approach and the progress that we're making. In summary, with the enhancement work on VSS Unity now complete and VMS Eve nearing completion, we will begin verification flights in the coming months, and we remain on track to start commercial service in the second quarter of 2023.

Our future fleet is progressing well, and with agreements in place with Bell Textron and Qarbon Aerospace, we continue to expect to roll out the first Delta ships for flight testing in 2025, with private astronaut service on the Deltas planned for 2026. I want to take this opportunity to thank the Virgin Galactic team for all the hard work that they have done throughout the enhancement and modification period. It has been an important time, and thanks to this critical and complex work, our ships will now have improved durability and reliability. We are all excited to get back to space. With that, we'll turn to questions. Operator, we're ready to begin the Q&A portion of the call.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. The first question today comes from the line of Oliver Chen from Cowen. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Oliver Chen
Managing Director, Cowen

Hi, Michael and Doug, and congrats on the announcements of the partnerships. As we look to 2023, as you begin initial production on the Delta-class spaceships, what are the key catalysts or moments in 2023 that we should look forward to with respect to that? And more generally, as you pursue this flexible and agile approach to working with suppliers, are there other partnerships that you need in terms of scaling or that you have in mind? A second question is, previously you mentioned disruptions in acquiring materials. Is that still happening? Or if you could tell us a little bit about how the supply chain looks given we're in such a dynamic environment. Thank you.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Oliver. This is Michael responding. I'll just take that last one. Well, I'd say supply chain for us and for everywhere still carries across the world, you know, degrees of disruption. We've managed that disruption really, really well. We don't have anything that is constraining us at the moment from a supply chain standpoint. It's still a disruptive market. We still look and manage proactively against it. Don't want to say that any company's out of the woods for that. We don't see issues in that area right now. That's good. As to the Delta ships, what you'll see, we're very excited to have Bell Textron and Qarbon Aerospace on board.

You know, I think those companies and the teams are also very excited to be partnering with us on this. It is a program where, as we said, we're going to take the lead on the upfront design and overall design authority. What that means is we're going to have our engineers, especially some of our most experienced engineers with our ships, really working through the upfront design to basically modify, you know, our existing ships design, same outer mold line as we've discussed, but modify them in a way such that Bell Textron and Qarbon Aerospace can take those designs and then put them through their own shops, their own areas, and manufacture them in a very efficient way, in a very both time and cost-efficient fashion.

Things that we'll be doing, you know, we have to get the design piece done, and there are, you know, milestones that we could work against internally for that. You'll see us, then we'll be ordering materials, and the materials will first be used to build the tooling that these partners will be using in the manufacturing process. As we get the material ordered, then we'll get the tooling built, and then you'll see parts actually getting built using those toolings. That's mostly what's going to be happening in the 2023 timeframe. Doug, anything you'd add to that?

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

That was complete.

Oliver Chen
Managing Director, Cowen

Thank you. Michael, you have a really experienced, like experiential team in terms of membership and marketing and driving a bigger consumer experience. Any updates there on plans and strategies in terms of what you're doing, and also regarding the demand side with the encouraging campus and training facility announcements, what have you been seeing in terms of demand and regarding tickets? Thank you.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Got it. I'd say we're generally following the path we've laid out, Oliver. Our design process on the astronaut campus continues. Again, we think that campus will be coming online kind of in parallel with the Delta ships coming online. That's still got a way. 2023 is still primarily a design phase for that effort, but that's coming along quite well. I've spent time with some of our future astronauts, both in Europe, the U.K., as well as in the U.S. They're just very pleased and excited to both be part of the company, but also looking forward to going to space. We mentioned on this call, we had our first major event, internally, we call it the Space for the Curious event.

I participated in that with, you know, 60-80 or so of our future astronauts and guests. The main takeaway there is how important the journey is. I think for all the people who attended that, as well as the dialogue I've been having, kind of across the world with our future astronauts, it continues to come back and focus on this isn't an up and down, right? This is a journey, and the development of the milestones on that journey are incredibly important along the way.

What we really focused on in that Space for the Curious piece is helping people recognize how they're going to prepare so that the moments that are fairly fleeting in space will be so anchored in their memory when they come back that, you know, that's what they're going to carry forward for the rest of their lives. It was very reinforcing to attend that event and to talk with these folks. We feel like we're definitely on the right track there. Now, on demand, as we shared in the last quarter's earnings calls, we had 800 or so people that had come in. We took 100 seats out of our first 1,000 block and repurposed and dedicated those to the research market. That has been a good move on our part.

You may recall the research groups can't plan for something that's, you know, four years out. They need the ability to make decisions for funding and for using their experiments on shorter timetables. By being able to reserve that 100 seats and basically be able to feather those in along the way, it's opened up our opportunity to talk to a lot more people. You may have noticed we announced a partnership on research with Axiom Space that came out this morning. They're going to use us to help train astronauts that they will be taking up to the space station on deeper exploration missions. We found good momentum from countries, universities, Axiom in the case of today's example. That's a good market.

We have the bulk of the remaining of those first 1,000 seats off with Virtuoso. I would imagine those tickets will get momentum through their large network of travel advisors as we start flying. That's where I think we'll see the push there. As I said, we've carried a few house seats. We've effectively, you know, with that allocation to Virtuoso and resellers, have closed our efforts on sales at that $450,000 price point. We think that was a right piece to have for this moment. We were very successful with that. As we're back to space and flying again, we'll reopen for the next tranche of sales.

Oliver Chen
Managing Director, Cowen

Very helpful. Best regards.

Operator

Thank you.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Oliver.

Operator

The next question today comes from the line of Matt Akers from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Eric Yan
Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Wells Fargo

Hi, this is Eric Yan in for Matt. Thanks so much for the question. It looks like you guys used less cash than expected for the quarter. Is the higher Q4 number a good run rate to assume for next year? Maybe it's close to the peak now?

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

Yeah. Thanks for the question. This is Doug. Yeah. We spent a little bit less in the third quarter than we projected, just like $3 million below the range we gave. But yeah, we are seeing that ramp in the fleet development. You know, we've got both of the work going on the finishing of the enhancement period plus the ramp with Aurora on the next-generation mothership. You know, those are the things that are layering in there. We've guided for the fourth quarter to be $120 million-$130 million spending level. That's because, you know, we're still finishing up the flight test period here, yeah, following the enhancement period. Then we've got the ramp of Aurora continuing and then the introduction of the new suppliers for the Delta-class.

You're seeing that trend. I've talked about before how these layers will combine. Next year, what you see is some ramp down on the initial fleet because we will have finished the enhancement period. We've moved into flight tests, and we're finishing it up going into commercial service. Then the ramp up of the future fleet. The net effect of that is some growth from where we are guiding for the fourth quarter, but we do see ourselves getting closer to our peak level of spend. You know, as these layers are coming in, that's kind of how it stacks up. Getting closer to that peak.

Eric Yan
Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Wells Fargo

All right. Thanks. If I can do one more. Just like to know how many passengers are still in the backlog now. Is it still roughly 800-ish? Not sure if anyone has dropped out.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Yeah, Eric. As we were talking, we have 800 call it future astronauts that had signed up before we took the call it remaining seats and allocated 100 off for research, and then the bulk of the rest to Virtuoso. That's. We're kind of holding at that collective number of kind of those 1,000 at the $450,000 price point that we put out. As we get back and start flying again, we'll reopen up from there.

Eric Yan
Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Wells Fargo

Okay. Thanks so much.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Eric.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Kristine Liwag from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Kristine Liwag
Executive Director and Head of Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Hey, good afternoon, everyone.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Nice to hear from you, Kristine. How are you?

Kristine Liwag
Executive Director and Head of Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Great. So maybe following up on your announcement with that Bell will provide Delta's feathering system. You've got flight control surfaces and Qarbon Aerospace will do fuselage and wing. I mean, these are pretty important partnerships. Can you provide more color on the contract arrangements with these two suppliers? Will these be cost plus contracts for you? Fixed price? Are they risk-sharing partners? What sort of investment and capital costs do you estimate this will be in 2023? You know, if you have a multi-year outlook, that would be better than just 2023.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Sure. Doug, I'll take a little bit of that, and you can kind of pick up there. Probably as you would expect, the contracts are going to be a combination of time and materials when we are in periods where definition is still varying, which are these early phases right now, right? As we're kind of clarifying the design specificity with each other. Then we will move them into firm fixed price contracts as we lock down the design, and so the partners know what their job is with more specific detail in them. That's how those will work. Just, I think we'll move into the fixed price version of that when you know, design is appropriately locked down.

That allows for time and materials in a place where we can work easily with each other to find the most efficient way forward, and people aren't trying to hedge to kind of cover bets because they don't know what's coming. That's why we set up first T&M and then go into firm fixed price. Doug, do you want to talk on either risk or other elements there?

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

Sure. Regarding the risk-sharing, it's similar to what we did with Aurora. Yes, there's a risk-sharing element to it where the suppliers are incentivized to go faster. If things take longer or there's, you know, performance challenges along the way, you know, there's some degradation in the price. We're in it together, right, as a partnership. In terms of the cost, we aren't disclosing the cost, you know, the run rates for 2023 or the cost per vehicle at this time because for the reasons Michael mentioned, you know, we're entering the design phase with them, and we lock down the design and that. From that specifies the remainder of, like, the recurring costs that we'll see with the vehicles.

Because that's an ongoing process with the vendors, it's really not in our best interest to put that out there publicly what that is, because that's an ongoing interaction between all of us together. For that reason, we don't disclose it. But hopefully that gives you enough color.

Kristine Liwag
Executive Director and Head of Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Yeah. Thank you very much. That's really helpful color. I know it's great that you're able to line up these experienced manufacturers to help you build these very sophisticated flying machines, right? Or space machines. So maybe in terms of the follow-up on cash, I mean, for Q3 2022, you burned about $107 million. For Q4, you're looking at the burn rate of $120 million-$130 million. Is that the run rate we should expect leading up to the commercial service next year? Or have you done the bulk of the work, and does that taper off leading into commercial service?

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

We only give one quarter of guidance on that, Kristine Liwag. We've got a midpoint of $125 for Q4. But what you'll see directionally as we go forward is probably still some growth because of the fact that we're still finishing up the flight test phase and getting ready for commercial service while we're also ramping up the fleet expansion efforts, the fleet development with the outside vendors. You've got kind of some layering on there which directionally should drive costs a little higher. But as we get to commercial service, then you start to see some ramp down on the current fleet because we've finished that flight testing process, and we're now in a sustainment mode and maintenance mode.

That starts to come down, but at the same time, you've got the vendors ramping up. That's how the different components should work together.

Kristine Liwag
Executive Director and Head of Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you very much.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Kristine. Good to hear from you, and yes, we are really excited to have both of these organizations on board with us. They bring facilities, they bring expertise, and they bring ideas on how to help us move quickly and cost-effectively. The leadership and their teams are all also really excited to be part of it. It's exciting work.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Gregory Konrad from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Good evening, Greg.

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

Hi, Greg. Good evening.

Gregory Konrad
Senior Vice President Equity Research of Aerospace and Defense, Jefferies LLC

Um, this maybe the-

Hey. Just to follow up on Bell and Qarbon. I mean, those are obviously the major structural components. When we just think about the out percentage, are you through in kind of locking down the supply chain? I know you're not disclosing costs, but you know, through these discussions, you know, any indication of how the price of the vehicle's tracking with maybe internal plans?

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Well, let's see. I think as far as the supply chain goes, while there will be, obviously Bell and Qarbon on their own will have further supply chains that they pull in on their side. From our standpoint, these are by far the large bulk for the Delta ship, as Aurora is, you know, the large bulk for the motherships. Like in Aurora's case, you know, we'll be bringing in engines from Pratt & Whitney, you know, some smaller elements. For the spaceships, the Delta class, outside of what Bell and Qarbon will be doing, you know, examples of what we'll be doing in addition to the final assembly or what's involved in final assembly, we'll probably do the interiors. We'll bring the gear and install the gear, things like that.

The weighting of this is heavily to Bell and Qarbon. We're not expecting any other major supplier or relationship that we need for the Delta spaceship. That's great news. I'll say.

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

Also regarding costs relative to our

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Oh, regarding costs. I'd say relative to our expectations, you know, first I'd say as Doug mentioned, we start these relationships in a time and materials basis so that we can kind of work through the design specificity with each other together, and then we move to firm fixed price. We have to get through that process to really kind of lock that down. I'd say through the RFP process that we did and, as part of our selection criteria with both Bell and Qarbon, the pricing that they were looking for, which is raw pricing at an RFP level, is consistent in the area that we had projected internally. I think that was your question. I'd say, yeah, we're still tracking in a consistent fashion there.

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

Greg, I can add that, you know, we had our own parametric studies that we had done, and so we had, you know, our projections of what these things would be. Yes, it's consistent, you know, materially consistent with what we thought it would be.

Gregory Konrad
Senior Vice President Equity Research of Aerospace and Defense, Jefferies LLC

I might have missed it. I think you maybe mentioned it briefly. How are you thinking about the schedule for Imagine as of today? I mean, it seems like the first part of the schedule hasn't slipped, but how are you kind of thinking about that coming into the flight plan?

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Yeah. We put the emphasis on, number one, I'd say ensuring that Eve and Unity, not only are flying, but have the engineering resources to fly on a consistent basis, as we said, and just make sure we have the ability to have the staff ready if there's anything we need to settle out in the early flights. At the same time, the economic momentum of the company is around the Delta ships. We are the kind of first domino to fall internally of needing to get the engineering done up front, to help get definition so that Bell and Qarbon can get going. Those two things are really priority. What's consistent amongst both those two is they require not just engineers, they require the engineers that have the most history with our existing ships.

That is a limited resource. We have a large engineering pool, but we need to make sure we focus those deeply experienced engineers on those two things. Now it happens a lot of those engineers are also the ones that will be in some of the flight testing phase for Imagine. We're doing some resource prioritization there, and as we start to learn how quickly we'll be able to pull folks back from even Unity and how quickly we'll move through some of these early design phases on Delta, that will influence how many people we get back onto Imagine. What we said in the prepared remarks was we're reassessing Imagine's schedule. I can say that we will not be in 2023 for commercial flight with Imagine, so I think we've kind of passed that mark.

Kind of where it falls will depend on how quickly we're able to pull people back from even Unity and from Delta.

Gregory Konrad
Senior Vice President Equity Research of Aerospace and Defense, Jefferies LLC

Thank you.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Greg.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Myles Walton from Wolfe Research. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks. Hi, Myles.

Myles Walton
Managing Director, Wolfe Research

Hey. I was wondering on the schedule for return to commercial service, Eve getting back in the air in early January, and then I heard a Unity glide flight and then a Unity space flight and then the Italians. Was the plan always to just have the one powered flight? Has the schedule compressed at all? I realize that the start of commercial services remains steady, but has the schedule compressed at all?

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

The schedule has not compressed, but what you are seeing is, the flights, you know, back following Unity 22, that we did with, you know, kind of Richard and our internal team, we had planned two flights following that. One was going to be an internal flight, one was going to be the Italian Air Force research flight that we'd announced. At that time, we were going to then go into this kind of modification enhancement period. What we've done is, you know, as you know, we've pulled the modification enhancement period, went into that first. We're bringing back those same two flights that we planned before.

What's additional is we're adding a glide flight of Unity, and that's, you know, primarily a verification flight because Unity had some upgrades to it and Eve had some upgrades, so we want the whole space flight system to be able to go through. For those who aren't familiar on the call, a glide flight is where we bring the spaceship Unity up to altitude and release it, but instead of powering it to space with our propulsion system, the pilots take it through a series of maneuvers as they glide back to Spaceport America. That is the additional flight that we've put in the system. The other two are the same as we were before.

Myles Walton
Managing Director, Wolfe Research

Okay. Good. I think in the queue it talks about in this relationship, Virgin Galactic would continue to own the airworthiness certificate and award it for the manufactured product, which makes sense. But can you just remind us, the airworthiness certificate that goes along with the Delta class, how different is that versus what you currently carry for Unity?

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Each vehicle will have kind of a you know in our world as a spaceship that functions as an air vehicle in the lower parts of the atmosphere. Each of these will have a reusable launch vehicle license, so each vehicle has its own license. The FAA license to carry commercial passengers to space is an operating license, and while we will clearly kind of show the FAA the work we've done on Delta, our dialogues with them so far, we feel each side feels these will all be part of that same license. We do not expect having to create a new commercial license for the Delta ship. They'll fall under the same operations license, but each vehicle will need its own reusable launch vehicle license.

Myles Walton
Managing Director, Wolfe Research

Okay

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

kind of certification.

Myles Walton
Managing Director, Wolfe Research

Great. Last one was on, I know you said that the cash flow from R&D running hot was enhancement cost as well as future fleet. Is there any way maybe, Doug, you could sort of break down how much is going to the future fleet today versus enhancement?

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

Today, I'll just say it's more on enhancement, but that's rapidly shifting.

Myles Walton
Managing Director, Wolfe Research

Okay

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

to future fleet.

Myles Walton
Managing Director, Wolfe Research

Okay. All right. Thanks for your work.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

If you were looking at Q3, it was more on enhancement. Now it's shifting over.

Myles Walton
Managing Director, Wolfe Research

Okay.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Myles.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Samuel Struhsaker from Truist Securities. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Michael Ciarmoli
Managing Director of Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Truist Securities

Hey, good evening, guys. I'm on for Michael Ciarmoli this evening. I was just curious, you guys mentioned kind of putting some engineering force behind your various initiatives, and I guess if you guys could just elaborate, have you looked into adding any additional labor or are you guys having any kinds of shortages there or anything like that? Kind of on the same note, I think you said you're managing supply chain all right, but have you guys had any issues with pricing pressures? If you could just add any detail there. Thank you.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Well, I think the supply chain, we have not seen. I'll call it pricing pressures. Sometimes, you know, a miscellaneous part or something that's in demand, we may expedite from a shipping or expedite to kind of get ourselves to the front of the line. That's, I think more like day in and day out of the supply chain world. But nothing I'd call it structurally that we've seen at this moment. I'm looking at Doug in case I'm missing something there.

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

No. The other factor is that the bulk of our costs are labor, not materials. You know, labor is more fixed in terms of pricing, so even with the contractors and so on. Yeah, it really doesn't show up as a material thing for us, any supply chain cost changes.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

I'd say on the engineering side, we have a great number of incredible engineers that are very smart. The number of those engineers that have historical experience with our ships is more limited because that came over the time kind of earlier in the company's time when our engineering corps was smaller. It's those more deeply experienced engineers that we have kind of a 2, 3 demands on their time. One of them is, as we put even Unity into service, those are the people who are very familiar through the flight test program, and we just want them kind of on the job, you know, effectively on site, ready to help us turn those ships. That's one where we need that specific group.

The design phase up front, as you would expect, you want to bring that deep expertise in. Once we get through some of the early design pieces, you get larger groups of incredibly smart engineers, but who may not have as much historical expertise. It's that core that also is important for some of the early testing of Imagine. We want to make sure that we put focus on the first of those, two of those, even Unity and Delta. That's what's given us a little bit of schedule flexibility in what we're trying to think about with Imagine. As I said, that will push us out of 2023, but it's for that specific cadre of engineers.

Michael Ciarmoli
Managing Director of Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Truist Securities

Great. If I could just sneak in one more. You guys, I think, mentioned that the production on the Delta-class would begin in 2023. Is there any way you could give any more detail on kind of when? If that would be more back half or not?

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

I don't think we're kind of at the point where we're putting specifics out on that. However, you know, we will follow a fairly standard process that we'll go through from a design up front. As design is completing and we get certain parts of that out ahead, we are able to start tooling exercises, right? So you design the tools, and then you can order the material for the tools, and you can then build the tools. That tooling exercise can happen as design is completing on some of the more detailed efforts. And then you go into actually, you know, manufacturing process there. So if you think about that sequence, you can probably make some assessments on that, but that's probably the right level of discussion at this stage.

Michael Ciarmoli
Managing Director of Aerospace & Defense Equity Research, Truist Securities

Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Sam.

Operator

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. The next question today comes from the line of Anthony Valentini from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Anthony Valentini
VP, Goldman Sachs

Hey, guys. This is Anthony on for Noah. How are you?

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Hi, Anthony. Welcome.

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

We're well.

Anthony Valentini
VP, Goldman Sachs

Thanks for taking my question. I just want to go back to the reservations for a minute. It sounds like, you know, the reservations are closed at this point in time. Is the sales process also, like, completely closed at a full stop halt, or do you guys still have people out there that are drumming up business for future customers?

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Yeah. Just kind of, you know, both for you, but also for anybody who's listening. We have a backlog of tickets that have been already sold, that's greater than 3 years. Those are obviously the people that we want to be flying to space along the way. You know, kind of as mentioned earlier, that's where we are building to the 800 or so we have and then the 100 research flights. Then kind of to your question here, we've got a number of those remaining 1,000 that we've allocated with a luxury and adventure travel partner, Virtuoso. Those folks, I think will be putting their energy towards this as we go back to flight.

From my old world, that would probably be the most efficient way for them to go at that. But these are, you know, again, we've got, you know, kind of pushing towards four years of backlog along the way. From that standpoint, we've kind of, I'll call it, closed the $450,000 price point. Virtuoso's tickets that they'll be selling will be at that $450,000 piece. At this point then, if people are coming in, we're obviously, you know, taking those names. We will add them to the interest list to come online as well as make sure that we're ready to follow up when we do reopen things up.

We also have kept some house seats, so when we get referrals from our existing future astronaut corps, you know, we have the ability to bring some of those folks in as well. Sometimes that's with, you know, "Hey, I'd like to bring a family member," or somebody else is, you know, things start to get real for them, so we want to keep a few tickets available for that. As we get back to flight and we are flying again, we'll reopen up sales. Our effort for our sales team right now is primarily structured on what are the kind of the sales infrastructure and mechanisms that we will use as we need to scale sales up at higher levels as we get closer to the Deltas coming online.

This is a good time period for us to get that work done.

Anthony Valentini
VP, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Yeah, that's really helpful and makes sense. I'm curious in terms of, just like the trend color and information on people that are coming to you with interest. Have you guys seen that slowing as there's been, you know, recessionary fears, you know, stock market decline, business profits down, things like that?

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

You know, we have even talked just to our existing core, right? We're generally maintaining the existing base. Everybody is impacted by world events, companies and individuals. For the most part, the people who are coming at this, these kind of early phases have the economic capacity to do so. Undoubtedly, everybody pays attention when markets are going up and down and things like that. With kind of this kind of near 4-year backlog, it's not really the concern for us at the moment. We're more focused on what's the infrastructure going to be as we begin our flights back to space and taking that momentum to really ramp the sales. We've got a little bit of time for that.

The economy and the world events have not, I'd say, been a waiting factor on us. We will look to kind of, you know, get back focused on sales as we get back to flight.

Anthony Valentini
VP, Goldman Sachs

Okay, great. Last one for you here. On supply chain, you guys touched on it, but I'm curious if there's like any specific parts, you guys are seeing that require longer lead times or anything like that. You know, a lot of companies that we're hearing that are in A&D generally are really harping on the fact that the supply chain has taken a major hit here. I'm just curious to get your thoughts.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

You know, a lot of what we've got going on right now is, you know, Qarbon. We have that. We had some issues that we were concerned about with some of the thermal protection system materials we use, and that took some scrambling to, you know, pull shipments in from Australia because that had been sole sourced out of Ukraine as an example. I think things that are very particular types of metals, metallics that are used in aerospace can be tricky. We had some work to do on a certain type of aluminum that we needed that was there that took us a while to get to. Those were some of the earlier things we faced.

at this point, we've kind of worked through those and the things that we're working on in the near term have not been problematic for us at that point. Doug, anything you've seen?

Doug Ahrens
CFO, Virgin Galactic

No. Nothing that I would mention beyond that. Nope.

Anthony Valentini
VP, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Thank you.

Michael Colglazier
President and CEO, Virgin Galactic

Thanks, Anthony.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions registered, so this concludes today's question and answer session and today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation.

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