Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to T1 Energy's first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there'll be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your speaker for today. Jeff, please go ahead.
Good morning, and welcome to T1 Energy's first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Before we get started, please turn to slide 2 for our forward-looking statements disclaimer. During today's call, management may make forward-looking statements about our business. These forward-looking statements involve significant risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. Most of these factors are outside T1's control and are difficult to predict. Additional information about risk factors that could materially affect our business are available in our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and our other filings made with the SEC, all of which are available on the investor relations section of our website. Turning to slide 3.
With me today on the call are Daniel Barcelo, our Chairman and CEO, Evan Calio, our Chief Financial Officer, Jaime Gualy, our Chief Operating Officer, and Andy Munro, our Chief Legal and Policy Officer. I'll now turn the call over to Dan to get us started.
Thanks, Jeff. Welcome everyone to our first quarter 2026 earnings call. Our theme for today's call is taking care of business. From the beginning of our journey at T1 Energy, building our G2 Austin U.S. solar cell fab has been the bedrock of our strategy to establish T1 Energy as a homegrown, integrated domestic solar leader. Today, I'm happy to report that construction of the 2.1 gigawatt phase 1 of G2 Austin is progressing according to schedule. Following the start of construction, we began ordering long lead items in Q4 2025 with the production line equipment, followed by the steel package order in Q1 2026. In recent weeks, with engineering and design work approaching completion, the pace of construction activity on site has picked up noticeably, and we remain on schedule to achieve first cell production in Q4 2026.
In April, we commenced concrete works for G2's foundation. In May, the team completed the design process by finalizing the full issue for construction package. We expect to begin erecting the first steel later in May. With one foundational offtake commitment for G2 in hand, we have been pursuing a second contract. While we have been financing construction of G2 phase one with cash from a balance sheet and the support of our institutional investors, we are also working to agree to a comprehensive financing package for the remaining CapEx of approximately $225 million. These pursuits are T1's highest priorities. We continue to target the announcement of the G2 financing in the second quarter. While we've been advancing our growth plans, our operations team has been focused on efficiency and profitability.
At G1 Dallas, our state-of-the-art 5 gigawatt solar module facility, we closed the first quarter of 2026 with much improved financial performance and a record quarterly adjusted EBITDA of $9.1 million. Finally, with the potential outcome of the United States Department of Commerce's Section 232 investigation in foreign polysilicon expected in the coming months, we are comfortable with T1's strong competitive position as a large offtaker of American-made polysilicon through our supply contract with Hemlock Semiconductor. T1 is deeply committed to standing up domestic polysilicon-based solar supply chain, which is a prerequisite to American energy dominance and the eventual development of a robust U.S. semiconductor supply chain. Now let's move to slide 5 for an overview of our progress at G2 Austin.
Our focus when we began developing G2 in Q4 2025 was to order the long lead items highlighted by the production line equipment and to advance project engineering design while we commenced the groundworks on-site. With those tasks largely complete, construction activity at the G2 site is picking up, and we are now progressing through some major milestones. As you may have noticed from the photos in this presentation and from our recent post on social media, concrete works got underway in April, and we are eagerly awaiting deliveries of the first structural steel, and we expect to start erecting the structure of what will be G2 in May. Weather this time of year in Central Texas can be volatile, and the team has been contending with a pattern of wet and stormy conditions in recent weeks.
A National Weather Service rain gauge in nearby Taylor, Texas, recorded 10.3 inches of rain in April, which is more than 3 times normal. Despite these challenges, our talented and hardworking team, along with our contractors and vendors, have kept construction on schedule. Looking ahead to the summer, there are some exciting milestones looming, the most important of which pertain to the shipments and deliveries of the production line equipment from Laplace. We have been working closely with Laplace on G2 development for roughly a year already, and the efficiency with which they are executing has us positioned to deliver this project according to plan, with first cell production targeted in the fourth quarter of 2026. As our progress at G2 continues, keep an eye on T-One's social media channels for real-time updates and footage from Rockdale.
With that, I'll turn the call over to our COO, Jaime Gualy, who will provide you with an update from T1 Dallas.
Thanks, Dan. Let's move to slide 6. Our mission for 2025 at T1 Dallas was to successfully complete the ramp-up of the factory to produce at capacity, which we have achieved in the fourth quarter.
For 2026, our focus is on driving profitability and EBITDA from our world-class operating asset. This morning, I'm pleased to report that 2026 is off to a solid start as we achieved record quarterly adjusted EBITDA of $9.1 million in Q1. Production and sales were lower sequentially in the first quarter as we expected. Following the frenetic pace of spot market module purchases in fourth quarter before the new FEOC restrictions went into effect on January 1st, customers have been working down module inventory by deploying equipment into their projects ahead of the safe harboring deadline in July on the 1-year anniversary of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. As a result of these market dynamics, we expect that the second half of 2026 will be meaningfully busier both at T1 and in terms of outbound module shipments to our customers.
Nonetheless, our financial performance during the first quarter was markedly improved because of a favorable shift to shipments under our combined 3 gigawatt of cost-plus and fixed margin contracts for 2026. All things considered, we are pleased with improvement in the bottom line, and the team at the factory continues to deliver outstanding operational performance. With that, I'll turn the call over to Evan for a view of our financials and an update on our capital formation initiatives.
Thanks, Jaime. Please turn to slide 7. T1 is in strong financial position as we continue to advance diligence with the goal of announcing comprehensive financing package for G2 Austin in 2Q 2026. In the 1st quarter, we achieved our highest quarterly adjusted EBITDA to date of $9.1 million. Our gross margins expanded by roughly 10% from the 4th quarter run rate to 17% in 1Q. That's on lower throughput of 683 MW or a 2.7 GW run rate. The improvement in our margin was primarily due to the favorable mix shift to volumes under cost-plus and the 2026 fixed margin offtake contract compared to a heavy weighting of merchant sales and a challenging price environment in the 4th quarter.
The improved performance on our P&L was augmented by the support we received from institutional investors, highlighted by the upsized public convertible senior notes offering we priced in April, which generated $176 million of net proceeds. This infusion of capital enables us to continue advancing G2 construction on schedule while we continue to pursue a comprehensive, primarily debt-based financing solution to G2 phase one. We have a management team with decades of seasoning in the capital markets, and we've applied our experience and creativity to fund G2 phase one. Earlier in the capital formation process, we concluded that the equity markets were offering comparatively more attractive pricing than the terms of debt-based sources of capital and allow us to pursue more profitable contract strategy.
We sequenced our funding sources of construction to date primarily through equity-linked investments while evaluating the most attractive pools of debt and offtake contract available. As we indicated when we priced the convertible offering in April, we now have identified and are pursuing what we believe to be our best debt-based option to close the remaining funding needed for phase one. We are engaged in diligence with a potential financing counterparty, which is our preferred solution because we believe it offers the most attractive combination of cost, structure, and quantum. As we indicated previously, we are tracking against our target to announce a commitment in 2Q 2026. To be clear, the quantum we expect to raise from this financing will be more than sufficient to fund the remaining CapEx of approximately $225 million for phase one of G2 Austin.
Let's turn to slide 8 to discuss our 2026 outlook and guidance. After a solid start in 2026 in the first quarter, T1 remains well positioned as we bridge the start of production at G2. Our international cell procurement program has been progressing well, and we now have four vendors for which we've completed non-FEOC diligence to supply G1 and expect that number to rise. As we grow the vendor network, we're becoming increasingly comfortable with our ability from a cell procurement perspective to supply near the high end of our unchanged 2026 G1 production guidance range of 3.1-4.2 gigawatts. The conversion of production to sales and adjusted EBITDA for 2026 still hinges primarily on three factors. Number one, customer demand and price of merchant volumes for the second half of the year after the July safe harbor deadline.
2, potential impact of widely anticipated Commerce Department Section 232 investigation into the use of foreign source polysilicon and its derivatives. 3, the net outcome of our IRA tax refund. Given T1's significant commitment to buying U.S. polysilicon from our partners at Hemlock, we believe the pricing implications of a potential 232 ruling represent a favorable one-way option for T1's 2026 and beyond sales and margins. We intend to issue more detailed 2026 guidance once we have better clarity on these factors. In the interim, we have robust mid to late stage pipeline for both merchant and contract sales opportunity for 2026 and 2027 for both the domestic cell and a non-FEOC cell module. There are no changes to our annual adjusted EBITDA run rate guidance targets for G1, G2. Now I'll turn the call back over to Daniel for concluding remarks.
Thanks, Evan. Let's turn to slide 9, please. T1's mission is to power America with scalable, reliable, low-cost energy. We are deeply committed to contributing to U.S. energy and AI dominance.
This isn't just rhetoric, and it isn't promotional. At T1, we're putting our money where our mouth is. We invested more than $600 million in G1 Dallas, our world-class 5 gigawatt module facility in Texas, where we have a workforce of more than 1,200 people to power safe, highly efficient 24/7 operation. T1 is doubling down on American advanced manufacturing in Texas with G2 Austin Phase One, where construction continues on schedule with a planned capital investment of $425 million. A potential second phase of G2 Austin to more than 5 gigawatts of U.S. cell fab capacity would support up to an additional 1,800 jobs in Texas. T1's plan to be part of an end-to-end U.S. polysilicon solar supply chain is critical to the long-term health of both the domestic solar and semiconductor industries.
Polysilicon is the common raw material for both solar modules and chips. There may not be a robust U.S. semiconductor industry without a vibrant domestic polysilicon supply chain to accompany it. As one of the largest buyers of U.S. polysilicon, T1 is doing its part to support the growing U.S. polysilicon sector. We are positioned at the nexus of U.S. policies that support our commitments to American advanced manufacturing and the domestic polysilicon industry. A potential Section 232 ruling could generate a pricing uplift for T1's modules made with domestic polysilicon and/or wafers through our supply partnerships with Hemlock and Corning. Our North Star is to be part of an integrated U.S. silicon-based supply chain that enables production of high domestic content modules that qualify T1 for Section 45X tax credits and our customers for Section 48E domestic content stacking bonuses.
Let's move to slide 10 to conclude with a review of T1's strategic priorities. Our first key objective this year is to fund and build G2. As Evan detailed earlier, we are focused on advancing diligence to announce a comprehensive financing package for G2 Phase 1 in the second quarter. We believe that G2 will trigger a step change in T1's earnings power and cash flows by enabling production of high domestic content TOPCon modules, which are not available at scale in the U.S. today. Our second priority is to improve T1's profitability as we navigate the bridge to G2 by efficiently operating our world-class asset at G1 Dallas, expanding our commercial presence, and enhancing cost efficiencies across our organization.
We believe that the improvement in T1's 1st quarter financial performance is an important step in the right direction that we intend to build upon in 2026 and 2027. Our third key priority dovetails with the 2. Operations and policy were major areas to address in our 1st years T1, in 2026 we're adding supply chain, sales, and engineering expertise to our organization. Satisfying these objectives are expected to create a world-class organization with the capability to safely and profitably operate state-of-the-art assets, consistently generate cash flow, and catapult T1 into a leadership position as a critical U.S. energy supplier. With that, I'll turn it back to Jeff to coordinate the Q&A session.
Thanks, Dan. Operator, we're ready to open lines for questions.
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Yeah, hey. Thank you, good morning, and thanks for taking my questions, everybody. You know, you know, Evan or Dan, I was hoping you could unpack a little bit more of the margins. I mean, hey, gross margins look great. You know, I think you call out in the deck that kind of is indicative of the backlog. Really, as we think about, you know, realizing we're not giving full year guidance, but is there any way to kind of think about if we wanted to layer in, like, what merchant power sales could look like, you know, how maybe that's gonna impact margins maybe in the back half of the year? Is that kind of the right way to think about it?
Yes. thanks, Greg. Evan, why don't you turn to that?
Yeah, sure. Thanks, Greg. Yeah, the gross margin in Q1 was 17%. I'd say that's driven by. We produced in the quarter on a run rate basis 2.7 gigawatts, right? It's based upon two cost-plus or fixed margin contracts that we have throughout 2026, right? Like, at least on the low end of the range, which is 3.1 gigawatts, you know, a 17% would be a reasonable gross margin assumption given you have the same contracts, you know, throughout the year.
Now, you know, if you move up in the guidance range, meaning we would raise production levels, that would increase your adjusted EBITDA, yet the margin could either be higher or lower based upon the relative, you know, module price movement relative to cost. It kind of depends upon your 2 assumptions on where price and costs are, you know, in the scenario in which we were exceeding the low end of the range with merchant volumes. Is that helpful?
That's super helpful. I mean, I guess just a quick follow-up on that, like, as we think about 232, like When we finally get more clarity around 232, is that when we should start thinking of at least the company will have better clarity and maybe what merchant power might look like in the back half of the year?
Yeah, I mean, I think that's one of the factors, Greg, for sure. I'd say, you know, coming into the year, we expected it to be more challenging to source non-FEOC cells. What, you know, Jaime and his team and Andy kind of on due diligence, you know, has found, you know, more cell availability, right? Now, you know, we're assessing the demand. It's going to be 1, driven by demand, but yes, 2, also driven by Section 232, given, you know, we have a domestic poly supply contract with Hemlock, which should experience, you know, both not just in 2026, but 2026 and beyond, you know, would most likely experience a benefit based upon what those final rules look like.
That'd be great.
You know, once we have those, we'll, you know, we'll likely provide, you know, better guidance on or guidance for 2026.
Okay, great. Just one more for me. You know, Dan, in the comments you talked about indicative customer demand covering, you know, production. As, you know, realizing we probably aren't too focused on finding demand for additional phases we haven't built yet. Maybe just kinda if you could talk to, you know, maybe provide some color around that comment as we think about potentially scaling up incremental capacity, how you're thinking about that in, you know, over the next couple years.
Sure. Thanks. If you break it down into pieces, the conversations we have with, again, most of our customers are all utility scale developer types that we have conversations with. They continue to see hyperscaler demand. That continues to remain the dominant theme. How do we get power now? 2nd point, you know, 2nd year running, everything is still tracking that solar and storage is adding most of the additions to the grid, and therefore, solar remains quite firm. You know, when we look back at 2025 and look backwards and through what happened, there was a lot of, we'll say, manic or bipolar kind of buying and selling ahead of certain rules changes ahead of year-end.
You know, we're hopeful that that can kind of steady out now and have a more consistent pattern of demand. I'd say the last thing that still seems to be a little bit of a bottleneck, and not for us because we're not the ultimate user, but is utility interconnection still seems to be slow. There still seems to be, you know, a lot of work to be done, a lot of payments to be made for interconnects, and that kind of gates projects. Again, looking through that point, demand's quite firm.
You know, if we have the right demand signals, and if we get the right types of orders for offtake, you know, and the market demand signals are correct and we pencil out the right economics, we're keen to continue to be building capacity. We think that the U.S. market for solar has to grow. We think that we can be an important part of it, and we'd be excited to continue to expand. We're trying to be very disciplined. Mission 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 is build G2, get to the comprehensive financial close and announce that on G2. That's our focus now. All of the signals are that the markets remains very robust.
All right, guys. Well, hey, keep taking care of business.
Thanks, Greg.
Thank you. One moment for the next question. Our next question will be coming from the line of Marty Malloy of Johnson Rice & Company. Please go ahead.
Congratulations on the strong quarter. Just wanted to make sure I understand the sequence of events here that we should be looking for. It sounds like from the 1Q call, there was a significant potential offtake contract. Should we be looking for announcement on the offtake side prior to the comprehensive financing solution being announced?
Thanks for the question. I wouldn't necessarily say that's the case. We announce material new contracts when those are executed. We don't announce heads of terms or term sheets or anything like that. We like to be really transparent in terms of those disclosures. When that contract is final and executed, we'll announce that. Those are really independent paths for other solutions. We intend to announce another comprehensive, primarily debt-based financial solution, you know, in this quarter. You know, we're excited about the progress on that. The offtake contracts and that are mutually exclusive. They may be inclusive, but they are not necessarily need to be inclusive.
Okay. thank you for clarifying that. Then, just as a follow-up on slide 8, I was wondering if you could maybe provide some more color around the bullet point, you talk about the preliminary indications for incremental G1, G2 domestic content underpinned by hyperscaler growth. Could you maybe provide a little more color on what you're referring to there?
The demand for solar and storage, as in my prior comments, remains quite strong. That demand's coming mainly from AI, from hyperscalers, from those large that goes through utility scale developers. That was just an indication of our customers are seeing that demand and that pull through there. For us, we see that market hasn't slowed down, and we have customer inquiries in large sizes about what type of solar can we deliver, when, how much of it would be domestic sell, how much of it would not. That was a reference to our ongoing commercial discussions with those utility scale customers.
Great. Okay, thank you. I'll turn it back.
Thanks, Martin.
Thank you. One moment for the next question. Our next question will be coming from the line of Philip Chen of Capital Rock Partners. One moment for the next question. Our next question is coming from Sean Milligan of Needham & Company. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Good morning. Great quarter here. How should we think about the 45X credit monetization this year, the cadence of that? You know, will it be done semi-annually, or is there a certain kind of threshold that you're trying to get to from a dollar amount?
Evan, do you want to turn to that?
Sure. Thanks for the question. I mean, I'd say that we expect here shortly to have monetized the balance of 2025, right? I think that's in motion that we're expecting near term. I mean 2026, you know, because it is a different process in the market. We'd always been expecting it would be back half of the year before we found a tax equity partner. We remain active and in conversations, but, you know, it's a slower than what it had been prior to O Triple B A because there's, you know, additional steps, as well as, you know, we're hearing from tax equity side, still waiting for an additional tranche of Treasury guidance.
We're expecting it, into, right now, you know, 3Q to the end, to the year-end. You know, there's, there also exists, if needed, you know, ways to kind of borrow against those, future sales, and there's other kind of financial, products you can do that lower your net that we're aware of.
Okay, cool. Great. I just wanted to revisit that 1st set of questions around the gross margins that you printed this quarter and just kind of the mix as you move into the 2nd half of the year. If you, I guess if you move past the 3 gigawatts that are on contract this year, how does merchant price compare to that today, that 17% gross margin? Would it be, if you were to strike additional merchant sales today without having Section 232 clarity, would it be above or below that margin? What would you need to see from Section 232 to move that margin higher?
I mean, you have to make a lot of assumptions to answer that question. I mean, I'd say, it depends exactly where your price is at current. If you're into a, you know, $0.30 price market in the back half of the year, likely kind of given where current, you know, sell pricing is, you're incremental, right? You know, you can either get there through just market demand or you can get there through, you know, through tariffs, right? I mean, 232 outcomes, expected outcomes have kind of a wide range of what of what they might look like.
I think, you know, the more meaningful benefit to us from 232 is likely going to be when we're converting the contract to wafer and when we're delivering that wafer in 2027, you know, as we ramp G2. It'll be a kind of bigger lift in that year than there would be in 2026.
Awesome. It doesn't matter as much this year because of the cost, I guess the cost-plus structure, the fixed margin structures of the contracts. Just from a COG standpoint, I know last year there was kind of significant movement in some of the pieces, I think glass in particular. Just kinda curious what you're seeing to start this year and if you've feel like you've locked in and dialed in the COG side to start this year pretty well.
Sure. I can start. Jaime can add as well since he's, you know, in procurement at, you know, T1 Energy at the moment. I mean, yeah, we're seeing some on the cell in particular, which is, you know, more than half or half your costs. You know, we've seen compression year-over-year, right? It's like it's been more available, it's actually been, you know, kind of better price year-over-year. We're only, you know, carrying inventory for about, you know, a quarter plus. You know, you're not necessarily locking in, you know, your third or fourth quarter right now. To your question about locking in, maybe Jaime to add on what we're seeing in the kind of glass market, or other parts of the BOM.
Hey, Sean. Yeah. We continue to work diligently on reducing our cost and procuring our bill of materials based on our planning for 2026. Overall, we continue to do that on all the pieces, on glass, on frames, on junction boxes, et cetera. Overall, our goal is to continue to operate G1 efficiently and reduce our operating costs and our COGS throughout the year.
Great. Thanks, guys.
Thanks, Sean.
One moment for the next question. Our next question is coming from the line of Philip Shen of Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First one's back on the 232. You know, there's this upcoming Trump-Xi meeting. Was wondering if you expect or from your connections with D.C., anything to come out of that that might be relevant for Solar and or the 232. On the 232, what's your sense for the timing of when that could be released. We've been publishing it could be, you know, sometime in June. They're making some progress with a structure, right? The new structure format might be a minimum import price. I was wondering if you've heard much about that kind of structure and what it might look like in general once we get it.
In all likelihood, it's probably not a percentage form, but just curious what your latest take is in terms of the framework of the Section 232 and timing. Thanks, guys.
Yeah. Thanks, Philip Shen. I would hesitate, be remiss if I were to comment on Trump-Xi's, you know, plans and negotiations. I think there's a lot of things globally in macro that need to be sorted, so I won't really have a comment there. As it relates to Section 232, we've been very consistent that we too want and need and would like to see a levelized playing field where we feel that polysilicon pricing is the most significant disadvantage to us in terms of the solar supply chain, silicon solar supply chain in the United States. From that perspective, we remain very focused on that message.
In our conversations, we've said that the percentages just don't seem to work well, that looking at a cent per watt type level across the product slate is what would be, would work. So without getting into what questions we've been asked by government parties, I'd say when the government and the parties understand the level playing field nature of it, they understand the cost disadvantages of our polysilicon versus others, and from that standpoint, we've made our position clear. Timing, I wouldn't have anything further than what you're hearing. You know, it's similar types of timelines, but we've all been waiting for this for month after month after month.
Yep. All that is very fair. Thanks, Dan. Shifting over to your non-Ciac cell supply, I think Evan or somebody mentioned, maybe you or us, Jaime, that you guys have been able to find a fair amount of supply. I was wondering if you could update us on how much as you kind of find the bridge between G1 and the full ramp-up of G2, certainly in phase 1, how much in terms of gigawatts do you guys actually need in terms of no cells that you don't produce? How much has been fulfilled, if that makes sense. Are you 70% of the way there, 100% of the way there, or some other number? Thanks.
Sure. I'll let Jaime follow up on the supply chain aspects for it. Math is fairly simple with us running at a 5 gigawatt and a 2 gigawatt cell plant coming in 2027. You know, we'll have a gap of certain need for non-FEOC cells even after our cell lines come up. For 2026, we don't produce cells. Therefore, we need to fill the whole gap, and it's gonna be a circular reference back to what's our production. You know, we are not looking to produce with FEOC cells at all. We would have to use non-FEOC cells in order to make our U.S.-made modules. Jaime, do you wanna talk about quantums? I don't think we've given full guidance on it from a commercial standpoint.
It is a competitive place where we're trying to get, you know, hands on these non-FEOC cells. Jaime, do you wanna take that and go into a little bit more detail without giving exact guidance?
Of course. Thanks, Dan. Phil, as we're looking at procuring, as Dan said, correct, our main focus is making sure that we're procuring non-FEOC cells and working very closely with legal on the right diligence for that. Really when we look at cell procurement, it's really tied to our overall commercial sales and looking at our production planning for 2026. As you know, we are between that, you know, the 3.1 and 4.2 kind of gigawatt range. That is where from my team and my current team is working towards.
We have enough suppliers, we've seen enough capacity in the market, and we're also starting to look for, as Dan mentioned, the filler for 2027 and where we are sourcing those, you know, non-domestic cells to fulfill our capacity at G one.
Great. Suffice to say you guys feel good about your 2026 needs and then you're looking into 2027 now. Is that right?
Absolutely.
Great. Okay. One last question here. I know we've talked about offtake a bunch, but, you know, just curious, like, can you lock in or announce an offtake without the 232? Do you think we need to see the 232 first and then, Certainly that's a big driver for offtake, but is there a chance that we could see an offtake before a 232 is announced? Thanks.
Look, we're trying to be a real counterparty to real developers in the United States, like, for a very long time. All of the developers are fully aware of the Section 232 noise and actions. None of them are trying to play a gotcha with T1 Energy, nor is T1 Energy trying to play a gotcha with them. There are very, you know, robust discussions around that and a lot of those utility scale developers comments are, you know, about their interest in us because of our U.S. polysilicon supply. That's a lot of the starting point for the conversations. The short answer is no, it's we don't need a Section 232 to sign contracts.
To add more color to that, the utility scale developers understand the benefit that would accrue to us versus them, and that doesn't seem to be an impediment to those discussions and advancing. When as I mentioned before, when we announce, we'll be publicly announcing those contracts. They are complex. Some of them are multiple years. We'd like to get, we'd like to sell out some more while retaining some merchant exposure to a market.
Great. Okay. Thank you, guys. I'll pass it on.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Thank you. There are no more questions in the queue at this time. I would like to turn the call back to Jeff for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Thanks, Lisa. Well, thank you everyone for your attention and interest today in participating in the call. We've got a plant tour starting at G one tomorrow, and we'll be back out on the road this quarter, so we'll catch up with everybody soon. This will conclude the call.
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