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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

Apr 25, 2023

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Welcome to the Texas Instruments 1st quarter 2023 earnings conference call. I'm Dave Pahl, Head of Investor Relations, and I'm joined by our Chief Financial Officer, Rafael Lizardi. For any of you who missed the release, you can find it on our website at ti.com/ir. This call is being broadcast live over the web and can be accessed through our website. In addition, today's call is being recorded and will be available via replay on our website. This call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause TI's results to differ materially from management's current expectations. We encourage you to review the notice regarding forward-looking statements contained in the earnings release published today, as well as TI's most recent SEC filings for a more complete description. Today, we'll provide the following updates. First, I'll start with a quick overview of the quarter.

Next, I'll provide some insight into first quarter's revenue results with some details of what we're seeing with respect to our end markets. Lastly, Rafael will cover the financial results and our guidance for the second quarter of 2023. Starting with a quick overview of the first quarter. Revenue in the quarter came in about as expected, at $4.4 billion, a decrease of 6% sequentially and 11% year-over-year. Analog revenue declined 14%, Embedded Processing grew 6%, and our other segment declined 16% from the year-ago quarter. As expected, our results reflect weaker demand in all end markets with the exception of automotive. As mentioned last quarter, a component of the weaker demand was inventory reductions by our customers, which we expect to continue in the second quarter.

Now I'll provide some insight into our first quarter revenue by market. Similar to last quarter, I'll focus on sequential performance as it's more informative at this time. First, the industrial market was about flat. The automotive market was up mid-single digits. Personal electronics declined about 30% as we continued to see broad-based weakness. Next, communications equipment was down mid-teens. Finally, enterprise systems was down about 30%. Rafael will now review profitability, capital management, and our outlook. Rafael.

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Thanks, Dave. Good afternoon, everyone. As Dave mentioned, first quarter revenue was $4.4 billion, down 11% from a year ago. Gross profit in the quarter was $2.9 billion or 65% of revenue. From a year ago, gross profit margin decreased 480 basis points. Operating expenses in the quarter were $929 million, up 14% from a year ago and about as expected. On a trailing 12-month basis, operating expenses were $3.5 billion or 18% of revenue. Operating profit was $1.9 billion in the quarter or 44% of revenue and was down 25% from a year ago quarter. Net income in the first quarter was $1.7 billion or $1.85 per share.

Earnings per share included a $0.03 benefit for items that were not in our original guide. Let me now comment on our capital management results, starting with our cash generation. Cash flow from operations was $1.2 billion in the quarter and $7.7 billion on a trailing 12-month basis. Capital expenditures were $982 million in the quarter and $3.3 billion over the last 12 months. Free cash flow on a trailing 12-month basis was $4.4 billion. In the quarter, we paid $1.1 billion in dividends and repurchased about $100 million of our stock. In total, we have returned $7.5 billion in the past 12 months.

Our balance sheet remains strong with $9.5 billion of cash and short-term investments at the end of the first quarter. In the quarter, we issued $1.4 billion of debt. Total debt outstanding was $10.2 billion, with a weighted average coupon of 3.2%. Inventory dollars were up $531 million from the prior quarter to $3.3 billion, and days were 195, up 38 days sequentially. For the second quarter, we expect TI revenue in the range of $4.17 billion-$4.53 billion and earnings per share to be in the range of $1.62-$1.88. Lastly, we continue to expect our 2023 effective tax rate to be about 13%-14%.

In closing, we will stay focused in the areas that add value in the long term. We continue to invest in our competitive advantages, which are manufacturing and technology, a broad product portfolio, reach of our channels, and diverse and long-lived positions. We will continue to strengthen these advantages through disciplined capital allocation and by focusing on the best opportunities, which we believe will enable us to continue to deliver free cash flow per share growth over the long term. With that, let me turn it back to Dave.

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Thanks, Rafael. Operator, you can now open up the lines for questions. In order to provide as many of you as possible the opportunity to ask your questions, please limit yourself to a single question. After our response, we'll provide you an opportunity for an additional follow-up. Operator?

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. Our first question comes from the line of Stacy Rasgon with Bernstein Research. Please proceed with your question.

Stacy Rasgon
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, U.S. Semiconductors, Bernstein Research

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. For my first one, I just wanted to dig into CapEx and depreciation. You did CapEx of $982 in the quarter. First, can you just clarify that's the gross number without any of the tax credits? I guess assuming that's true, both the CapEx and the depreciation number in the quarter are running well below the run rate there or the annualized number that you had given at the Capital Management Call. CapEx should have been about $5 billion for the year, depreciation maybe one and a half. Am I right in assuming that implies a fairly substantial ramp into the back half and into the year for both those metrics, CapEx and depreciation?

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Thanks for the questions, Stacy. Good questions there. It gives us a chance to clarify those. First, on CapEx, we're pleased with the progress that we made, both in 2022 but also year to date, first quarter, of this year. Everything's in line with expectations. As we shared at the call a couple months ago, we expect CapEx to average $5 billion per year for the next four years. That's just an average, so some years will be lower, especially at the beginning, and other years will be higher. Our expectation continues to be $5 billion per year. That $5 billion is gross, and the 982, close to $1 billion that you just quoted for the quarter, that's also gross.

We are continuing to accrue for the CHIPS Act benefit. I can tell you about that in a follow-up question if you like. The CapEx numbers have been and will continue to be gross numbers. On the second part of your question on depreciation, we told you that at the Capital Management call that depreciation will increase to about $2.5 billion on or around 2025. We expect this year to be below that linear trend, okay? That's just the CapEx is coming in as expected, but it's a function of other things, essentially when you place the equipment in service and when it starts depreciation, the assumptions that we had on that versus exactly how it's playing out.

Do you have a follow-up?

Stacy Rasgon
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, U.S. Semiconductors, Bernstein Research

I do. Thanks. I'm gonna let somebody else ask about the CHIPS Act accrual. I'm gonna ask about inventories.

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Okay.

Stacy Rasgon
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, U.S. Semiconductors, Bernstein Research

You're at almost 200 days of inventory, and I think the top end of your target was 190, but you said you'd be comfortable above that, so we're kind of there. Are you done building inventory now? If that's the case, what happens to fab loadings, I guess, as we go into the end of the year? I'm assuming you're running pretty full right now. Do those fab loadings need to come down, especially given the revenue trajectory and given inventories are sitting pretty close to 200 days?

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Let me start with reminding everybody our objective for inventory, and you can go back to our Capital Management Call. I believe slide seven, you look at the objective there. It's to maintain high levels of customer service, minimize obsolescence. We have a range there. It's just meant to be informative, and it's 130 to greater than 200. I just wanted to clarify that versus the number that you mentioned.

Stacy Rasgon
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, U.S. Semiconductors, Bernstein Research

Oh, got it. Yeah.

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Now the more important thing is, you know, I refer you to slide 13 in that deck. Anybody who hasn't seen that, you can download it from our website, go to slide 13. That shows you how we think about planning for the long term, so through semiconductor, the ups and downs of the semiconductor cycle, and that informs how we manage inventory, also informs how we are investing in CapEx. We're thinking through the cycles over the long term, but certainly inventory is one of those things that we take that trend into account. In the near term, we expect to have an upward bias on inventory as we prepare for long-term growth.

Operator

Thank you, Stacy. We'll go to the next caller, please. Our next question comes from the line of Vivek Arya with Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Vivek Arya
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America Securities

Thank you for the question. The first one is specific to industrial and automotive. If I heard you, Dave, I think you said industrial was flattish in Q1. I think it was down 10% in the last quarter. It seems like it's starting to flatten out, but I just wanted to check if that's the right conclusion. I think autos was up mid-single in both Q4, and I thought you said in Q1 as well. That also seems to be in the right direction. The specific question is, as we look into Q2, how should we think about industrial and auto? Can they stay at least kind of flattish, or do you think that they are also exposed to the macro weakness?

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Yeah. You know, first, you know, confirm that you heard correctly, you know, industrial market was about flat in the first quarter and automotive was up mid-single digits. As you know, our, you know, practice, that, when we think about guidance by end market, we only provide color if there's something that we need to highlight to explain what's going on. You've seen us do that multiple times, whether it's end markets or it's regions or something specific that's going on.

As you said, at the midpoint of our guidance, you know, revenue is flat and, when we look, you know, strategically at both of those markets, you know, we're very confident that that they will continue to, you know, add semiconductor content per unit and be great growers for us. You have a follow-on to that?

Vivek Arya
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America Securities

Yeah. Dave, I actually wanted to, you know, stay on the same question because there is a perception that industrial and auto demand is kind of this last shoe to drop in semiconductors. When I look at what your competitors, right, peers are seeing in analog and microcontroller markets. They are noticing, you know, a level of stability and strength, and that's what I want to confirm with TI. Are you seeing the same thing as you go into Q2? Yes, consumer is weak, right? Enterprise is weak, that is well known. Specifically auto and industrial, do you think they are now trending in the right direction in Q2? Do you think that, you're in front of some weakness and inventory adjustment in those markets also?

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Yeah. We're, you know, we're not trying to provide guidance by specific markets. You know, the overall outlook is, you know, roughly flat, you know, into second quarter. If we had something specific to call out, we would. I, you know, I think our approach to building closer relationships with customers, you know, what we're doing in our channels, our product portfolio continues to strengthen the capacity that we add, are all things that continue to put us in a great position to, you know, service customers and service them well over time. Yeah, we're just not gonna go into the specifics of each market in the second quarter. Thanks for those questions, and we'll go on to the next caller, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Timothy Arcuri with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Timothy Arcuri
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

Thanks a lot. Dave, I guess I wanted to ask sort of where you think you are in the cycle because you have less distie exposure than, you know, many of your peers. In theory, you should be farther along the inventory correction and, you know, you're more connected in, you know, real time to demand. When you sort of look at your customer inventory levels, where do you think we are? Do you think that we're sort of in the late innings of the correction for you because you are, you know, a bit more connected to, you know, demand in real time?

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Yeah. I, you know, I think, Tim, as you know, this is the first time that our markets, not only for us, but the industry have behaved differently as we've gone into this cycle. You know, if you look at personal electronics, you know, we began seeing weakness in personal electronics back second quarter a year ago, right? We're now into our fourth quarter of weaker demand. The other markets, with the exception of automotive, began weakening the quarter before last. You know, we're a couple of quarters in on that. Of course, automotive has remained strong through last quarter. You know, you put all that together, I think it depends on which market you're looking at.

If you're in PE, you're obviously closer to the bottom than you are to the top. I think with our practice, you know, we don't try to predict, you know, where the bottom or the top is. You know, really draw your attention back to slide 13 that we talked about. That longer term trend is what we're what we're planning on and what we believe we can look at to inform our decisions. Do I have a follow on?

Timothy Arcuri
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

I do, Dave. Yeah. I know that the SIA data can be noisy and, you know, you always say to look at things on kind of a TTM basis. If you sort of roll it back, it looks like your share has gone down in Analog roughly 200 basis points versus where it peaked in the early parts of COVID. As you sort of forensically go back and try to figure out what's happened, do you think that's entirely based on supply? In, you know, other words, if you didn't have the, you know, shortages that you did, you think that you wouldn't have lost that share? I'm just kind of wondering as you look back at the numbers, how you forensically try to explain that, you know, share loss relative to the industry data. Thanks.

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Yeah. I, you know, as we've talked about, that's something we think you have to look at over time. If you go back to the prior year, is when the pandemic started, you remember we made some decisions to continue to run our factories and build long-lived inventory. You know, those decisions served us very well. As we went through each quarter, as customers really expedited across the board, we could respond to that and ship them product. You know, in the short term, that probably helped us with the numbers when you compare it against what the industry was doing. You know, as we go into the following year, of course, those are tougher compares.

You know, we have a lot of practices that I think are different than many of our peers. As an example, through that period, we've moved to more closer direct relationships with customers. You know, we believe that that's giving us much better insight. We can see their demand more clearly. We can see what they need, both short term and long term, much better. You know, I also I'd say that, you know, as we're moving through a period where most of our customers are reducing their inventory to align with their needs, you know, we haven't employed things like long-term sales agreements or non-cancellable, non-reschedule contracts. Customers aren't taking product that they don't need. That isn't share gains.

That's just, you know, I think for us, we wanna be as easy to do business with as we can. Those, I think all those practices are setting us up well, to continue to gain share. Thank you, Tim. We'll go to the next caller, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ambrish Srivastava with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Ambrish Srivastava
Senior Research Analyst, Semiconductors, BMO Capital Markets

Hi, thank you very much. Rafael, I just wanna make sure I got the depreciation answer right and obviously it has implications for gross margin.

The run rate should be assumed the first quarter run rate because that is a very positive indication. You said it would be lower than the linear, but how much lower? I think we're all modeling a billion and a half. It's kind of the number that we had. What's the right way to think about that , please?

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

We're not breaking down specifics on that. If you were gonna do it linearly, you would get to the $1.4, you know, and change, and then $500 plus on top of that every year until you get to about $2.5 in 2025. It's gonna run lower than that, yeah, this year, and we'll give you an update the next Capital Management on subsequent years.

Ambrish Srivastava
Senior Research Analyst, Semiconductors, BMO Capital Markets

Got it. Got it. Just to, just for clarification and not a follow-up. If you look at gross margin, last year versus this year, the three factors, at least, I just wanna make sure I'm doing it right, is the flow-through, and the fall-through that you talk about, the offsets would be LFAB is now going from, restructuring into COGS, apples to apples, I add a higher depreciation. Is that the right way? Am I thinking about the right three parts?

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Yeah, those are the right three parts. Of course, this is over the long term. Any one quarter things, you know, there are many moving pieces. For example, mix always plays a factor. If you have more auto and industrial, that's different than personal electronics, right? At a high level over a long enough period, yes, those are the trends that the factors you should take into account when modeling this.

Ambrish Srivastava
Senior Research Analyst, Semiconductors, BMO Capital Markets

Got it. Thank you.

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Go to the next caller, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ross Seymore with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Ross Seymore
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi, guys. Thanks for letting me ask a question. I wanted to follow up Ambrish's and talk about gross margin on a sequential basis. The gross margin held in better than I expected. It did go down sequentially, but not even as much as it would have if you just took the LFAB expense out of OpEx and put it into COGS. Were there any unique offsets to that? Probably more importantly, any unique offsets we need to consider as we think going forward? I know, Rafael, you don't guide to gross margin specifically.

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

I would tell you, it was similar to Ambrish's question. You know, high level, think of the model we've given you is 70%-75% fall through, but that in any one quarter, even if it's on a year and year basis, but especially sequentially, on relatively small changes in revenue, that's not gonna work very precisely. Right? But over a long enough time, that works well. As we just talked about, you add the depreciation, and then in this particular quarter, you have to adjust for the costs that were in restructuring, that were for Lehi that now go to, primarily to cost of revenue.

There are other factors that go into play, for example, and I mentioned it to Ambrish a second ago, but mix is a factor. You know, you get a quarter with a lot more industrial, automotive and less personal electronics, that plays into it. The final one, you know, depreciation doesn't necessarily immediately flow through the P&L because it needs to be matched to inventory. That generally flows through inventory first and then sometimes delays the true impact of depreciation to the gross margin. Clearly, you know, the depreciation, as I mentioned earlier, it is increasing, it's coming. Over a long enough time, multiple quarters, certainly years, you need to factor it as we have talked about, right? The fall through and the increase in depreciation.

You have follow-up, Ross?

Ross Seymore
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah, I do. I'll just pivot to round out that CHIPS Act question from earlier. Rafael, could you give us an update on what the cumulative accruals are for that? Probably equally importantly, when does that likely flow through the income statement?

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Stepping back, CHIPS Act has an investment tax credit, ITC, and a grant. There's two components that have the potential to benefit us. If you go to our Capital Management document, we talked about those, and we said we are planning on the benefits from the ITC, and we're accruing those benefits. On the grants, we're not, because the grants are highly discretionary. It's up to the Department of Commerce. On those, we're not counting on those, but we're applying to those grants, and we're in the process of submitting those applications. We're asking for everything we can get there, but right now, counting on nothing.

Now, let me just focus on the ITC, which is the one that we are booking on the balance sheet. This last quarter, we accrued another $200 million benefit, so that's on top of the roughly $400 million last year. Now we have a total benefit that we have accrued of $600 million. That number will continue increasing for the rest of the year, and that's by way of 25% of qualifying assets in the United States. We'll continue to increase that number over the year. Then what happens is, we benefit in a couple of ways. One, the P&L, that accrual, comes out of the PP&E, property, plant, equipment basis. Now you have a lower basis to depreciate. The depreciation is gonna be lower going forward.

We're already getting a small benefit of that this year, but it's in a couple of million dollars. That will grow over time as those, the, that equipment goes into, is placed in service and now depreciates at a lower rate. More importantly, the cash benefit associated with that, we get the following year. Anything that we accrue this year and in 2022 and is placed in service in 2023, we will get that cash at the end of 2024. Okay. We're, that's what we're planning on. I think that answers your question fairly well.

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Yep.

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Okay?

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Yep. Thank you, Ross. We'll go to the next caller, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Danely with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Chris Danely
Managing Director and Senior Semiconductor Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Hey, thanks, guys. Just some color on the inventory correction you're seeing out there. Do you think that we're through the worst of it? Maybe talk about where it's, I guess, lower or where it's higher. Do you think that it's getting better at this point or getting worse, or can we not tell?

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

I, you know, I think Chris is, you know, one of the previous questions, somewhat similar, right? I think you have to look at it by market. You know, certainly in personal electronics, you know, being in the fourth quarter of the weakness, you know, would indicate you're probably closer to the bottom. There's no guarantee of that, you know, you're probably closer than in other markets, right? You know, that just isn't something that we try to predict and what we do use to kind of guide how we think about things and where we make investments is that gray line on the chart that we've talked about.

That's really what's important is being ready for the longer term growth. That's where our focus is. You have a follow on?

Chris Danely
Managing Director and Senior Semiconductor Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Yeah. Can you just talk about the linearity of bookings during the quarter and how your backlog looks now versus, I guess, three months ago, and what does that imply for the second half of the year?

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Yeah. Our linearity was stronger in the last month of the quarter. In backlog, I would say, as you know, we've got sales flowing through ti.com. We've got sales that are on consignment, where we get direct feeds, and we don't actually carry a backlog. You know, we just don't put a lot of emphasis on the backlog overall, I think, compared to many of our peers. We've got really good visibility because of our close relationships with customers, the fact that we're carrying, we're owning and controlling that inventory more directly.

Actually we've got, we believe it gives us really great visibility on demand. Thank you, Chris.

Chris Danely
Managing Director and Senior Semiconductor Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Great. Thanks.

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

We'll go to. You bet.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Moore with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Joseph Moore
Managing Director, Head of U.S. Semiconductors, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you, guys. I know you were pretty early to signal some of the headwinds that came in China from the COVID lockdowns. You know, what are you seeing now as the economies reemerge? Are you starting to see that as potential strength going into the rest of the year?

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Yeah. Joe, I, you know, I would say that we, you know, continue to believe the best way to look at our revenue and the changes in revenue is more, you know, more easily understood by looking at end markets. You know, there wasn't any significant change that we saw inside of China this last quarter. You have a follow on?

Joseph Moore
Managing Director, Head of U.S. Semiconductors, Morgan Stanley

Sure. You know, the down 30% in personal electronics and enterprise both, you know, does that reflect any kind of share shift as...? You know, I know that you do have people multi-sourcing more in areas like that, in phones and PCs and servers and whatnot. Are you seeing that as any kind of a headwind, or do you think that's just what the market, you know, was down in the first quarter?

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Yeah. I, you know, I think that, you know, as we've talked about before, sure, it doesn't move quickly. You know, we're in a position, as we're building inventory, you know, to support higher demand if it was to materialize. Again, we think that's mostly reflective of what's going on in the market. I think that's consistent with what you see, you know, from customers and other data that you can see that's out there.

Joseph Moore
Managing Director, Head of U.S. Semiconductors, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you.

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Thank you, Joe. I believe we've got time for one more caller, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from C.J. Muse with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

C.J. Muse
Senior Managing Director, Head of Global Semiconductor Research, Evercore ISI

Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you for taking the question. I just wanted to clarify and confirm some of the statements from earlier. You know, your gross margins came in a little better than what we thought for March, and so just curious, are you still on track for that $1.5 billion depreciation for the year? Were there any changes in kind of the timing of installation of equipment? Are you still seeing kind of the tight supply there? Yeah. I'll let me address that. First, CapEx. We're very pleased with how CapEx has come in. We did about $1 billion in the quarter. We talked a couple of months ago that we expect about $5 billion per year for the next four years. That's an average.

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Some years will be less, some years will be more. At $1 billion per quarter, that's obviously a $4 billion run rate for the year. Somewhere between $4 billion and $5 billion for this year would be about right on the CapEx, and that's coming in just as expected. Depreciation, what we talked about a couple of months ago at the call was we expected to increase to $2.5 billion at some point in the future in 2025, on or about 2025. We, but this year, we expect that that trend to be below linear. Instead of $500 million increase per year from the starting point of 2022, it'll be less than that in 2023.

I think Ambrish had the specific number on that. We're not disclosing that at this point, but, you know, I would just tell you, look at. You know, we just did $265 for the quarter, so you can do your own math of. That was $249 the previous quarter. You can think of that and come up with a decent approximation of where that may end up, and we'll give you more details, obviously, in subsequent quarters. Do you have a follow-up?

C.J. Muse
Senior Managing Director, Head of Global Semiconductor Research, Evercore ISI

Yes, please. A longer-term question. You know, one of the overriding themes for the last couple quarters on the semi equipment side is the vast spending by lagging edge domestic China with an obvious focus kind of on the 90nm+ . But actually, I shouldn't discount the 28nm+ part of the world. You know, as you think about regionalization, as you think about perhaps a rising kind of competitor in the China landscape, you know, looking out over the next 5+ years, how are you thinking about, you know, the pros and cons and how you'll compete in that environment? Thank you.

Dave Pahl
Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Texas Instruments

Yeah. C.J., thanks. thanks for that question. I, you know, I'd say that, you know, when you look at our products and markets, you know, we've got four competitive advantages that, you know, we continue to invest in, I think that make us stronger and different than our competitors. We've talked about them before, right? The first is the manufacturing and technology. Owning and controlling those assets, we think will be of growing importance and where they are in the world also, we believe will be a benefit to us as well. Second is our broad product portfolio.

Competitors that we have, you know, around the world, but especially in China, usually only compete with us in a very, very narrow slice of our product portfolio. That said, we've competed with those companies, in some cases for, you know, couple of decades now. Competition there isn't new. You know, so, they're good competitors. We can learn from them. We're not dismissive of them. We very closely track, and I believe the number somewhere around 75 different competitors, around the world, that we'll compete with. You know, the third competitive advantage is the reach of our market channels.

Especially when you look at some of the smaller competitors in China, they just don't have the reach, they don't have the breadth of portfolio that attracts customers, for engagement, and that just gives us better insight. Then the last is the diversity and longevity. There's not one market or technology that we're dependent on, to provide market share lift. Now, we'll be dependent on all of them. You know, sometimes in the short term, that may, you know, favor one competitor versus another. Longer term, as we compete, broadly in all the markets, we think that that will, translate into long-term and sticky share gains.

Overall, we're pleased, you know, and excited about where we are from a position standpoint, whether we're looking at our traditional competitors here in the U.S. or Europe, and as well as those in China.

Thank you very much. I'll turn it over to Rafael to wrap this up.

Rafael Lizardi
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Texas Instruments

Yeah. Thanks, Dave. Let me wrap up by reiterating what we have said previously. At our core, we're engineers, and technology is the foundation of our company. Ultimately, our objective and the best metric to measure progress and generate long-term value for owners is the growth of free cash flow per share. While we strive to achieve our objective, we will continue to pursue our three ambitions. We will act like owners, we'll own the company for decades. We will adapt and succeed in a world that's ever-changing, and we will be a company that we're personally proud to be a part of and would want as our neighbor. When we're successful, our employees, customers, communities, and owners all benefit. Thank you and have a good evening.

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