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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Dec 1, 2021

Ato Garrett
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Veeva Systems

Good afternoon, and Welcome to Veeva's Fiscal 2022 Q3 Earnings Conference Call for the quarter ended October 31st, 2021. As a reminder, we posted prepared remarks on Veeva's investor relations website just after 1:00 P.M. Pacific today. We hope you've had a chance to read them before the call. Today's call will be used primarily for Q&A. With me today for Q&A are Peter Gassner, our Chief Executive Officer, Paul Shawah, EVP Commercial Strategy, and Brent Bowman, our Chief Financial Officer. During the course of this call, we may make forward-looking statements regarding trends, our strategies, and the anticipated performance of the business. These forward-looking statements will be based on our current views and expectations and are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Our actual results may differ materially.

Please refer to the risks listed in our earnings release and the risk factors included on the most recent filing on Form 10-Q. Forward-looking statements made during the call are being made as of today, December 1st, 2021, based on the facts available to us today. If this call is replayed or viewed after today, the information presented during the call may not contain current or accurate information. Veeva disclaims any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements.

We may discuss our guidance on today's call, but we will not provide any further guidance or updates on our performance during the quarter unless we do so in a public forum. On the call, we may also discuss certain non-GAAP metrics that we believe aid in the understanding of our financial results. A reconciliation to comparable GAAP metrics can be found in today's earnings release and in the supplemental investor presentation, both of which are available on our website. With that, thank you for joining us, and I'll turn the call over to Peter.

Peter Gassner
CEO, Veeva Systems

Thank you, Ato, and welcome to the call, everyone. It was another great quarter for Veeva with strength across the business and results above our guidance. Total revenue was up 26% to $476 million. Subscription revenue was also up 26% to $381 million. Non-GAAP operating income was $199 million or 42% of total revenue. As noted in my prepared remarks, we had a very good quarter in commercial, with particular strength in Core CRM, Crossix Analytics, and Veeva Link. In the R&D area, we saw continued strength across the board in Veeva Development Cloud. We'll now open the call up for your questions.

Operator

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question at this time, you will need to press star, then the number one on your telephone. To withdraw a question, press the pound key. Your first question comes from the line of Stan Zlotsky with Morgan Stanley.

Stan Zlotsky
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hey, guys. Good afternoon, and thank you so much for taking our questions. Maybe just starting high level in the quarter, what did you see as far as the, you know, any shifts in buying patterns? I know you called out in the prepared remarks there's, I think, an incremental $2 million headwind to billings in the quarter. Is there anything more to call out one time that happened in the quarter?

Brent Bowman
CFO, Veeva Systems

Oh, hey, Stan, it is Brent. No, in the quarter, we're very pleased overall with the broad-based strength we saw in the business. The one anomaly that I called out was we expected about a $14 million of one-time items to billings that came in at $16 million. Other than that, nothing else. I'm happy with the overall momentum and strength of the business.

Stan Zlotsky
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Got it. As far as the way we should be thinking about guidance for Q4, you know, any other shifts you note other than, you know, I think you mentioned the incremental $10 million of the essential shifts from a renewal to, you know, we're gonna be pushing out into Q1 versus Q4. Anything else that we need to be mindful of as far as that quarter, any kind of underlying demand trends or anything else?

Brent Bowman
CFO, Veeva Systems

In addition to the item, the $2 million you called out, again, we're you know very pleased with the broad-based strength. A couple of items just to be mindful of is that the ACV booking linearity was a benefit more to the first half than the second half. If you remember, we had our strongest two booking quarters in Q4 2021 and Q1 2022, so that had an impact. In addition, the CRM attrition is starting to flow through as we expect, and that does have an impact on revenue as well. Those are the things I'd be mindful of. All in all, you know, we've never been happier with our competitive positioning and how we look at the opportunity ahead.

Stan Zlotsky
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Got it. Thank you so much, guys.

Operator

Your next question comes from Dylan Becker with William Blair.

Dylan Becker
Senior Equity Research Analyst, William Blair

Hey, guys. Nice job in the quarter, and I appreciate you taking the questions here. I guess maybe starting with Paul on the commercial side. Nice to see some additional wins with early adopters on Data Cloud. I wanted to maybe dig into the value with some of the releases coming up here next year with prescriber and sales data to really kinda tighten that feedback loop for these pharmaceutical companies. I guess maybe just kinda that seems like a key driver of value here, but would love to kind of understand how you guys are thinking about this opportunity for those three components and datasets to really come together in Data Cloud as we think about 2022 and beyond.

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah. Thanks, Dylan, for the question. Yeah, so you're right overall with Data Cloud. We're really excited about the potential that we have. Really significant market, big market where we, you know, we have patient data, which is available today in the U.S. market. As you referenced, we're gonna have prescriber data in Q1 of next year and sales data in Q2 of next year. We're excited to expand that portfolio.

When we do that, what that allows us to do is to be, you know, we could be that sole provider for a life sciences company for the vast majority of their data, and that's what we're approaching. You know, today we have patient data which is highly differentiated. We have a number of early customers who are proving out the value proposition of Veeva's patient data in the market. They're finding more patients. They're finding more targets. The data is more robust in many cases than what exists in the marketplace. So our hypothesis has always been we can create a better data set, and we're proving that out in the market. So we're super excited about where we're going with Data Cloud.

Dylan Becker
Senior Equity Research Analyst, William Blair

Okay, great. That's helpful. Maybe one for Peter as well. We've seen a lot of kind of recent innovation across the quality as well, and I think you kind of highlighted it on the Analyst Day about a month ago around that kind of broader opportunity set. I guess maybe the potential to kind of dig into that applicability here, expanding again outside of potentially life sciences verticals, maybe something again that shakes out more around that kind of 2025 timeframe. Thinking of how you guys are viewing kind of the innovation cadence in quality and the long-term opportunity of that suite in itself.

Peter Gassner
CEO, Veeva Systems

Yeah. Quality, we're very excited about. It's turning out to be a very broad business for us. We added, you know, product surveillance. Actually, that was a year or so ago. That's specific to med tech. You know, now adding validation and the Vault LIMS for automation, automating the quality control laboratory. It's pretty broad. It's and it has some products that are quite mature and doing well in the market, QualityDocs, and even QMS now we've had for a long time, and then Vault LIMS, which is also a really big new product, and we're just building that one.

It has a combination of, well, you know, products that are mature and products that are just brand new. That's targeted at life sciences. Quality is one of those products that goes outside a little bit, service providers to life sciences. It's contract manufacturers, et cetera, CROs. Lots of people need our quality suite. It can be a big business for us, that's for sure.

Dylan Becker
Senior Equity Research Analyst, William Blair

Great. Thank you guys for taking the question.

Operator

Your next question comes from Ken Wong with Guggenheim Securities.

Ken Wong
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Guggenheim Securities

Great. Thanks for taking my question. A couple of CRM questions for me. The first one, I think I saw in the script that you guys mentioned, you know, maybe introducing a med tech CRM. Is this a greenfield opportunity for you guys, or is this just mildly additive by providing existing customers with a new experience? What's the right way to think about that particular product?

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah, Ken, it is a new opportunity for us. You know, today we sell Veeva CRM for pharma into the pharma and biotech industry, and that's built on Salesforce.com, the Salesforce platform, and that's going well, and none of that changes. You can think of the pharma side as, you know, we're gonna continue to execute as we have been. And what we announced differently was really for the med tech space. Think of med tech as, you know, this could be anything from a company that sells kind of heavy medical equipment all the way down to surgical gloves. It's a broad industry. It's a bit of a different area for Veeva in CRM.

We've been selling to med tech for the past couple of years, primarily our Vault R&D applications, and we're doing really well. We have over 100 customers where we sell to R&D. That's the big opportunity in med tech is really the R&D space. What we're doing in CRM is we're creating an industry-specific application for med tech. We're building that industry cloud for med tech. It's new and additive.

Ken Wong
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Guggenheim Securities

Got it. Super helpful. I also couldn't help but notice that there was a mention of a top 20 enterprise customer. I guess my understanding was you guys had pretty much locked up everyone except for Roche. I recall Matt used to say there was a bounty on that last enterprise domino. I guess should we think that you converted that, or is this just some derivative of another enterprise customer that from a regional perspective? What's the happenings there?

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah, you know, this is one we're proud of. You know, I won't comment on specific customers, but, you know, I will say that we do have all top 20, some at least somewhere in the globe at this point, all the major markets. We're really proud of this win. This is one that, you know, these things take time, right? We've been executing, as you heard in Peter's remarks, we've been executing really well in CRM.

We've had really strong market share gains this quarter. We added the enterprise top 20, which you just referenced. That's in the U.S. market. We had some competitive wins and takeaways elsewhere in Latin America and expansions in Japan. We're executing on all cylinders in Core CRM and more broadly in commercial. Yeah, really happy with that progress.

Ken Wong
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Guggenheim Securities

Got it. Fantastic, guys. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Your next question's from Brian Peterson with Raymond James.

Brian Peterson
Senior Managing Director and Equity Analyst, Raymond James

Hi, gentlemen. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to hit on the sales rep reductions at some of your customers. I'm just curious, you know, versus where we were 90 days ago, how has that progressed, and how should we think about the impact of those reductions in fiscal year 2023 versus fiscal year 2022?

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah, I can give you an update. Just as a reminder, you know, we talked about roughly a 10% reduction happening through the end of fiscal year 2024, with most of it happening by the end of next year. With regards to this quarter in particular, it was relatively light. We saw very small rep reductions. We do anticipate we'll see more into Q4 and also most of it happening through the end of next year.

Brian Peterson
Senior Managing Director and Equity Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. Got it. That's helpful. Maybe just kind of a derivative on that. You know, it's interesting as we're starting to hear about rep reductions, you could think about maybe a move to digital. I'm curious when you're engaging with your customers on the commercial side, Paul, like, are they talking about spending more technology and software with you? You know, even though we're seeing this reduction, should we still think about spend levels overall going up? How do we kinda think about that dynamic?

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah, they're very much related because the reason they're able to have the productivity gains is because they're becoming more digital. So what's happening across the industry is, in fact, what happened largely over the last couple of years that we've been driving this shift to help our customers become more digital, more productive, more efficient, and now they have those productivity gains, and they get to decide how they take advantage of those gains. Either they can reach deeper into the customer base, or they can take some as reductions. It's not a science, and it takes a little while, which is why you see it playing out over time. Yes, there's certainly a correlation. As they consume more of our products, as they become more digital, there are the efficiency gains which they get the benefit of.

Brian Peterson
Senior Managing Director and Equity Analyst, Raymond James

Thanks, Paul.

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Sure.

Operator

Your next question comes from Sterling Auty with J.P. Morgan.

Speaker 13

Hi, this is Drew, on for Sterling. I was wondering if you could speak to the pipeline of new add-on products, particularly within CRM or anywhere else that you're seeing add-ons.

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah, I can talk to that. The add-ons continue to progress really well. You know, over the last 12, 18 months, you saw some acute spikes with some very specific add-ons. I would say the tip of the spear add-ons helping our customers get to digital, and you saw that spike with Engage. We've moved much of the industry to some of the newer add-ons like Engage. We're seeing strength more broadly across that because they're all taken together. All of those add-ons help our customers be more efficient. They help them become more digital. They help them generate data better and operate differently. Yeah, we're seeing strength not only in Core CRM, but also in the add-ons more broadly.

Speaker 13

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question's from Stephanie Davis with SVB Leerink.

Stephanie Davis
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SVB Leerink

Hey, guys. Congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking my questions. I just wanna call out that the prepared remarks had a bunch of SMB wins. I was hoping you could talk to traction in that end market. How should we think about the relative go-forward opportunity in SMB, just given both broader contracts and the scale of IPO activity that we've been seeing lately?

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah. The SMB space is. It's a really important market. I mean, this is where you have, you know, some of the most innovative, interesting companies, biotechs, often launching their first medicine, and this could be in, you know, something that's highly specialized, oncology, rare disease. We are able to, in many cases, start very early in the development cycle with our Vault products, which is most often where we would start, you know, from anything from clinical to regulatory and anything else across the spectrum. Then, you know, as they get closer to launch, often promote them into our commercial product set.

Yeah, we're having really good strength in that space. Now, going forward, I anticipate, you know, we'll continue to have that strength in our... Those customers have the unique advantage of having a clean slate. Going with Development Cloud, going with Commercial Cloud becomes really compared to what, somebody that may have some legacy systems, you know, tied to them. Yeah, it's a big value proposition with those small customers. We're making good progress there.

Stephanie Davis
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SVB Leerink

That touches on my follow-up. Are there then some products within your suite they're much more likely to add on or attach to earlier than some of your established relationships? How can we think about that opt in the near term?

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

There are, and it depends on where they are in their life cycle. Certainly earlier, much earlier in the life cycle, you would start clinical, you know, advancing to areas like regulatory. As they become closer to commercial, they actually often start with their medical affairs teams, because that's seed and start positioning in the marketplace, and then they expand to the commercial product area. It's really we can help them along that entire spectrum.

Stephanie Davis
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SVB Leerink

Super helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Ian.

Speaker 13

Thank you for taking my questions. I guess my first one is really around the Crossix wins and the omni-channel analytics. Just curious to see what sort of momentum you're seeing in that space in terms of purchase decisions. Obviously, as digital becomes more important of an investment channel, with those rep reductions-

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Exactly right, which is driving a lot of the momentum. You know, Crossix is. It's really the very best product in the marketplace. That has been. You know, we've been building and maturing that product for a very long time, and it's doing well in the market. We expect it to continue down that trajectory. We're also innovating in the Crossix space. If you remember, we did some really innovative things where we took some of the interesting data that comes out of CRM, and we enhanced it in Crossix, which is what our customers are looking for. They're looking to us for that kind of innovation, being more digital. There's more of a need to measure and understand what's working and what's not working, and that's why they turn to Crossix. We're excited-

Speaker 13

Sort of the discovery of new use cases thus far. Would just be curious to hear some examples of some of those new use cases. Thanks.

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah. You know, we started with the patient data. That's what we have in the marketplace with the other data sets that I mentioned earlier. You know, our customers are able to. Patient data is super valuable to a life sciences company, particularly for you know, some of these newer, more specialized procedures. Really good and deep visibility into what's happening to that patient across the journey, how are they getting diagnosed, what are some of the indicators that you know, that may mean they have a medicine that they'd be able to treat that patient for longer term.

It really helps. You can think about that patient data to help identify where patients may be. You can think about it as helping them to transition them over to a medicine. You can also think about it as, segmenting and targeting customers. Those are some really specific use cases that our early customers are all using and taking advantage of today, and they're seeing really good results with.

Speaker 13

Great. Thanks for the color.

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Sure.

Operator

Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press Star then the number one on your telephone. Your next question comes from Brent Bracelin with Piper Sandler.

Hannah Rudoff
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Hi, all. This is Hannah Rudoff on for Brent today. Thanks for taking my questions. First one is kind of a follow-up on the last question. I think in the past you've talked about customers maybe being able to find around 10% more targets using your patient data than using a legacy competitor data. I guess where do you see that number going once you have all three data sets rolled out?

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah. That's a good question. You know, it will depend on certainly the therapeutic area and you know who we're competing with, what you're comparing it to. We do believe because we're taking a modern approach, we're using technology, we're able to find data that others are not able to find, and we're able to match those data sets together and create something really robust. So that's why we've been able to find additional patients, additional healthcare professionals and targets, because of that.

You know, do I see it may range, right? It's gonna range. In some cases it may be higher, it may be not as much. We're pleased that the customers are getting the value that we thought they would get out of Data Cloud. It's only gonna go in the right direction as we continue to invest more heavily in data.

Hannah Rudoff
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Great. How are you thinking about headcount going into next year?

Peter Gassner
CEO, Veeva Systems

Yeah, I'll take that. You know, we're pleased with our journey towards 10,000 employees in 2025. We have very aggressive targets, and we're focused on, you know, building the organization to drive customer success and innovation. You know, we're leaning in to investing in our people.

Hannah Rudoff
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Thank you. Great.

Operator

Your next question comes from Brad Sills with Bank of America.

Brad Sills
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Oh, great. Thanks, guys, for taking the question here. Congratulations on a nice quarter. I wanted to ask about, you know, any deals this quarter in that top 50 segment for clinical CTMS, CDMS, how did that fare during the quarter? Thank you.

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah. I mean, we continue to clinical continues to go really well for us. CDMS, as you know, we continue to add customers. We've had some expansions. They're doing more trials. We're doing more oncology trials also as we're going along. Those are some more complex. You know, you need to be a little bit more adaptive, which is why they're looking to something that's more flexible like CDMS.

We continue to make progress every quarter, adding more trials, making progress in the enterprise also. With some of the more, you know, the more established products like eTMF continues to perform well. Our customers are also expanding and looking at areas like CTMS. Clinical is really proud of where that's going. Of course, customers believe in our vision for digital trials and that clinical foundations are a really important part of that.

Brad Sills
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Great to hear. Also, if I may just, you know, an update on the regulatory business. That's the Vault that has been, you know, you've launched earliest and has seen a lot of traction over the years. How well penetrated is that in the install base? In other words, what's the runway to cross-sell and upsell that into the base from here?

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Yeah. You're right. It was one of the earlier ones, and there's still a lot of runway left in regulatory. Also think about regulatory, it is a suite of products like the other areas. We have submissions and the ability to archive and publish submissions and registrations. It's a number of products, and you're really seeing two dynamics.

One dynamic is where, you know, customers who may have started with, you know, submissions and registrations, they're expanding to publishing. We're seeing expansion from existing customers to buy additional apps. Then you're also seeing, you saw in Peter's scripted comments that, we had our first enterprise kind of go all in with the regulatory suite. Those two dynamics are playing out, and there's certainly a lot of runway left there.

Brad Sills
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Great to hear. Thanks, Paul.

Peter Gassner
CEO, Veeva Systems

Brad, I would say a little more color in the second half of this year, you know, end of Q2 and the Q3 here, and frankly the start of Q4, we've seen a lot of good momentum in the clinical data management. I think that's been, you know, as I reflect, a real bright spot. Now, particularly with large enterprises, that doesn't turn into, you know, orders or closed deals right away because that's a risk-averse area, has a long runway, but that's a real bright spot, our progress in CDMS so far this calendar year.

Brad Sills
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Excellent. Thanks, Peter.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'll now hand it over to the management for the closing remarks.

Peter Gassner
CEO, Veeva Systems

All right. Thank you everyone for joining today's call. I'd like to thank our customers for their continued partnership and the Veeva team for their commitment to customer success.

Paul Shawah
EVP Commercial Strategy, Veeva Systems

Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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