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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Feb 3, 2022

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Q2 fiscal 2022 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. Thank you. Bill Ong, Head of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Bill Ong
Senior Director of Finance, Viavi Solutions

Thank you, Josh. Welcome to Viavi Solutions Q2 fiscal year 2022 earnings call. My name is Bill Ong, Head of Investor Relations. Joining me on today's call are Oleg Khaykin, President and CEO, and Henk Derksen, CFO. Please note this call will include forward-looking statements about the company's financial performance. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations and estimations. We encourage you to review our most recent annual report and SEC filings, particularly the risk factors described in those filings. The forward-looking statements and interim guidance we provide during this call are valid only as of today. Viavi undertakes no obligation to update these statements. Please also note that unless we state otherwise, all results except revenue are non-GAAP.

We reconcile these non-GAAP results to our preliminary GAAP financials and discuss their usefulness and limitations in today's earnings release. The release, plus our supplemental earnings file, which includes historical financial tables, are available on Viavi's website. Finally, we are recording today's call and we'll make the recording available by 4:30 P.M. Pacific Time this evening on our website. I would now like to turn the call over to Henk.

Henk Derksen
EVP and CFO, Viavi Solutions

Thank you, Bill. Fiscal Q2 was Viavi's second highest quarter for revenue and a quarterly record for non-GAAP profitability. Second quarter revenue came in at $314.8 million, up 5% year-over-year, exceeding our guidance range of $296 million-$310 million. The strength was driven by record revenue in our NSE business segment, offsetting anticipated temporary weakness in our OSP segment. Viavi's record operating profit margin at 23.3% expanded 100 basis points year-over-year and 60 basis points sequentially, and exceeded the guidance range of 20%-21%, a function of operating leverage on higher revenue volume, favorable product mix, and disciplined OpEx control.

EPS at $0.24 tied a quarterly record high and increased $0.01 or up 4.3% year-over-year and exceeded the $0.18-$0.20 guidance range. The share count of 242.3 million shares is consistent with our expectations and includes the dilutive impact of the remaining convertible notes of approximately 4 million shares. Now moving to our reported Q2 results by business segment, starting with NSE. NSE achieved a new quarterly revenue record at $244.2 million, up 18.1% year-over-year and exceeded our guidance range of $230 million-$240 million. Within NSE, NE revenue increased 18.5% from a year ago to $214.4 million, reflecting strength in our fiber and wireless products.

SE revenue came in at $29.8 million, increased 15.5% year-over-year, driven by strength in our assurance and data center products. NSE gross profit margin at 65.3% increased 200 basis points year-over-year. Within NSE, NE gross profit margin at 64.4% increased 180 basis points from last year, primarily a result of leverage on higher revenue volume. SE gross profit margin at 71.8% increased 360 basis points year-over-year, reflecting both higher revenue and favorable product mix. NSE's record operating profit margin at 18.7% exceeded our guide range of 15.7%-16.7%, primarily a result of operating leverage on higher revenue and disciplined OpEx control.

Operating profit dollars more than doubled as margins increased 800 basis points from a year ago. Now turning to OSP. $6 million was down 24.2% from a year ago. Revenue was slightly ahead of the high end of our guidance range of $66 million-$70 million as demand for our 3D sensing products improved during the quarter. Gross profit margin at 56.2% decreased 650 basis points year-over-year due to lower revenue volume. Operating profit margin at 39.2% decreased 870 basis points from a year ago as a result of the aforementioned, exceeding the high end of the guidance range of 34.5%-36.5%, primarily due to better than expected expense control. Turning to the balance sheet.

The ending balance of our total cash and short-term investments was $738.5 million, up $89.7 million compared to a year ago, primarily a function of free cash flow generation over the last 12 months. Operating cash flow for the quarter was $22.2 million, a decrease of $46.5 million compared to $68.7 million in the year ago period. The reduction is a result of non-recurring tax payments executed during fiscal Q4 of 2021, as well as a temporary increase in inventory levels in anticipation of increased future demand. In addition, we invested $18.4 million in capital expenditures during the quarter compared to $10.5 million in the prior year. The increased CapEx reflects the new Arizona production facility.

As you may recall, in early September, we completed a transaction to redeem approximately 40% of our 2023 and 2024 convertible notes from the original $685 million in principal to a remaining outstanding balance of $410 million at the end of fiscal Q1. During fiscal Q2, we redeemed an additional $45.6 million in convertible notes, which further reduces the principal value of our combined convertible notes outstanding to $364.4 million at the end of the Q2 , or 53% of the original principal value.

Also in early September, we settled the combined retirement of $275 million in principal value in convertible notes, in part in cash for an amount of $197 million, as well as by issuing 10.6 million shares in Viavi common stock. Subsequently, the board authorized the repurchase of up to $190 million of these shares, which commenced at the start of the Q2 . We are pleased to report that as of yesterday, February second, we repurchased 10.9 million shares at an average price of $16.30 per share, including commissions, for a total of $176.4 million, and intend to complete the $190 million purchase program before the end of the third quarter.

We plan to continue to improve our capital structure and provide the financial flexibility to allow us to execute our growth objectives. Now on to our guidance. We expect the fiscal third quarter 2022 revenue to be approximately $308 million. Margin is expected to be 21% ±50 basis points, and EPS to be in the range of $0.20-$0.22. We expect NSE revenue to be approximately $234 million ±$5 million, with operating profit margin at 15.5% ±50 basis points. OSP revenue is expected to be approximately $74 million ±$2 million, with operating profit margin at 38.5% ±100 basis points. Our tax rate is expected to be approximately 16%.

We expect other income and expenses to reflect a net expense of approximately $6 million. At the current stock price levels, and as we complete the aforementioned share repurchase program, the estimated fully diluted share count used in our calculation is 239 million shares for the Q3 . We also expect the fully diluted share count to reduce to approximately 237 million by the end of the Q4 . With that, I will turn the call over to Oleg.

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Thank you, Henk. I'm pleased with Viavi's performance in the fiscal first half of 2022, during which we achieved record revenue and non-GAAP profitability. Our fiscal first half revenue came in at $641.6 million, and non-GAAP EPS was $0.48, which is a new Viavi record. The NE segment demand strength was driven by fiber and wireless, double-digit percentage growth from the same period last year. Our fiber field products achieved a new revenue record as service providers, both in Americas and Europe, continued to upgrade and expand their networks with fiber. Customers started to adopt our 5G field instruments in late calendar 2021, and we expect this deployment momentum to continue throughout 2022. Our 5G lab equipment demand continues to be robust with initial field deployment of O-RAN technology expected this calendar year.

The cable product demand moderated as our cable customers prioritize. That said, we expect the industry to launch a new coax upgrade cycle with DOCSIS 4.0 sometime in 2023. Longer term, we expect most cable networks to move to fiber and wireless technology. The 400GbE optical transport demand continues to be strong with many leading customers starting to make initial investments in the next generation 800GbE technology. As many of you are aware, our industry has been experiencing component shortages of advanced semiconductor devices. That said, we have been successful in securing critical components and meeting our customers' demand. Our ability to execute has resulted in market share gains and enabled us to drive upsides to our revenue guidance.

At this time, we are starting to see the supply starting to catch up, and we expect to see a much, much more favorable supply chain situation by mid-calendar 2022. The SE business segment came in just under $30 million in revenue, reaching a quarterly revenue level last seen in calendar 2018. The SE turnaround is a result of our restructuring of the business segment in early calendar 2017 and subsequent launch of common Nitro platform for the assurance and data center market segments. We expect a strong SE performance in this calendar year, driven by growth in the base business and anticipated strong market demand for 5G assurance. We expect the quarterly revenue run rate during this calendar year to be in the $20 million-$30 million range. Now turning to OSP. The OSP business segment delivered better than expected revenue and profitability.

Our Q2 anti-counterfeiting products revenue decreased sequentially. Essential banks globally moderated their demand to reflect reduced print volumes following more than a year of elevated pandemic-driven demand strength. That said, we expect during the calendar 2022, the core OSP revenue to remain above the pre-pandemic levels at the high $20 million quarterly run rate. $50 million quarterly run rate. We expect 3D sensing in fiscal Q3 to be seasonally stronger than in the past years, reflecting stronger customer demand to make up for. Further, we expect the supply and demand seasonality for 3D sensing modules to normalize by June quarter and expect seasonally strong demand in the second half of calendar 2022. In conclusion, I would like to express my appreciation to the Viavi team for its continued strong execution in delivering another record quarter and a record first half.

I wish all our employees, supply chain partners, customers, and our stakeholders to remain safe and healthy. I will now turn the call over to Bill.

Bill Ong
Senior Director of Finance, Viavi Solutions

Thank you, Oleg. We will be participating at the Susquehanna Technology Investor Conference virtually on March fourth, and the Morgan Stanley TMT Investor Conference in San Francisco on March tenth, 2022. Josh, let's begin the question and answer session. We ask everyone to limit discussion to one question and one follow-up.

Operator

At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from Alex Henderson with Needham. Your line is open.

Alex Henderson
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Needham & Company

Thank you very much. First off, congratulations on a good quarter in a tough environment. I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the OSP business. You know, what you're thinking in terms of the degree to which the anti-counterfeiting security products stay at this lower run rate that you're talking about or whether there's some indications of any change in the demand structure there. The second piece, if you could talk a little bit about where we are in terms of 5G adoption of 5G cores versus you know 4G cores. Thanks.

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Sure. Thank you, Alex. First the anti-counterfeiting. Well, you know, I think as I've mentioned before, about five quarters we were in significantly higher volumes. I'd say late last year, we've seen a decrease in demand as everybody continued to digest what they bought. We expect most of the digestion has taken place last quarter and maybe this quarter and this business gradually start creeping up to a little bit better volumes. We don't think it's gonna get to the kinda level we saw during the pandemic. We think high fifties run rate is kinda for core business gonna be kinda the new normal.

If you remember a few years back, it was low 50s%, then we kinda got it to mid-50s%, then it got to the mid-to-low 60s%. We think, you know, kinda a higher 50% range is the good assumption for the foreseeable future. Now, it doesn't mean that there won't be any quarters where we'll pop over 60%, maybe for a quarter, but I don't think it's gonna last as long as a major economy starts redesign launches a new redesigned currency. I would say as a good kinda way to think long term, at least in intermediate term, assume like high 50% run rate as the norm for core business. You didn't ask about 3D sensing. 3D sensing is gonna moderate.

You know, as I said, you know, our lead customer had challenges getting supply, so they really took a hard step to rebalance. It was just a confluence of events, we saw both anti-counterfeiting and 3D sensing drop last quarter. We expect it to meaningfully kind of start bouncing back this quarter and continue into the Q4 . You know, I think, as a result of the kind of lower 3D sensing H1 , we'll probably see seasonally stronger second half of things kind of level out. We expect a very strong H2 of the year, as the majority of the new models are gonna be coming out. Regarding the 5G, we see, you know, a very interesting demand developing. We're seeing increased interest in our products.

I think it's, you know, we have the first data points. We clearly saw demand for our RF products increase in the Q4 . But also, it's not only wireless product, RF products, it's also the 5G, I mean, the fiber products. Because actually a lot of these 5G deployment is also pulling the fiber instruments as well for field instrumentation. It's becoming a bit of a double whammy for us, which is in a positive way. We do see 5G starting to pick up. There was obviously concerns around the FAA and the safety of radio altimeters and 5G frequency. I think there's a lot of testing going on.

We are obviously providing a good advice and technology offering to both sides to make sure that there is no danger or impact on the commercial aviation.

Alex Henderson
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Needham & Company

Great. Thank you very much.

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from Mehdi Hosseini with Susquehanna International. Your line is open.

Mehdi Hosseini
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Susquehanna Financial Group

Yes. Just wanna go back to impact of the supply chain disruption. Oleg, can you help us understand what would your December and March quarter upside would be if you didn't have any challenges with procuring components?

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Well, you know, I mean, let's put it this way. There's two upsides. The first one is we would have significantly lower costs. We'd probably pick up 1-2 percentage points in the gross margin if we did not have to pay through the nose, surcharges and expedite fees and things like that to make sure we get the components. The second one, I'd say on the top line revenue, we probably would be able to ship $5 million-$10 million.

The reason for that is, it's, you know, if you get components in the quarter, but you get it, let's say, after the tenth of the third month, generally, you know, where we see the challenge getting all the components by the end of the second month, so we can finalize and ship the product into third month. That's generally how we see it. Then it just kinda keeps rolling over into the next quarter.

Mehdi Hosseini
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Susquehanna Financial Group

Okay, great. Just looking beyond the March quarter, it has been a while since you last updated us on your target, especially for top line and operating margin. Is this occasion where you can give us an insight how we should think about the second half, especially as some of the revenue are pushed into the H2 of calendar year, and how we should be thinking about opportunities looking into, like, a next fiscal year?

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Sure. I will start, and I'll turn it over to Henk. You know, remember, we're gonna have our analyst day in September, and that's where we'll provide a longer-term model. Clearly, our current model is already running ahead of what our 3-year projection was. We expect the first calendar quarter generally has a lot of statutory costs that we accrue for the year. Generally, there's some headwinds on OpEx and gross margins. Even with that, we are you know looking to be in a $0.20+ EPS. In terms of the operating margin, I'd say we're probably looking at low 20% already, even with what we could normally consider a March quarter to be one of our weaker quarters. In that respect, we're already there.

I do think as NSE continues to gain momentum, and if that momentum sustains, we could see our gross margins start moving up to maybe towards closer to mid-60s%. Obviously, as the OSP business recovers, it'll make it that much easier. Henk, anything?

Henk Derksen
EVP and CFO, Viavi Solutions

We'll be presenting to you a very granular plan, upcoming September Investor Day, like we did three years ago. We'll give you a three-year outlook for revenue growth, margins on a consolidated basis and by segment. As Oleg said, very pleased with our 3% in the first half. With a little bit of statutory costs, we think we will post solid performance for the back half.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Samik Chatterjee with JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director - Networking Equipment/IT Hardware Senior Analyst, JP Morgan

Great. Thanks for taking my question. I guess, if I can just start with one for Henk first. Henk, just a bit surprised after the record margin or operating margin that you had this quarter. I'm a bit surprised with the guidance for the March quarter. It does look like you're expecting a sequential moderation and a material sequential moderation in March, despite almost like similar or maybe a slight moderation in the revenue, but OSP is going up in terms of mix as well. If you can unpack that a bit, just 'cause I'm surprised with the magnitude of the moderation sequentially in terms of operating margins.

Henk Derksen
EVP and CFO, Viavi Solutions

Yeah. Our margin are, like as you said, on the high end. The revenues are consistent with what we just posted. We do have to factor in the typical increase in statutory costs, which is about $4 million-$5 million. We anticipated maybe a little bit normalized mix. Our guidance is typically prudent, so that's the rationale here. On the tax rate, we posted a 12.5% tax rate for the second quarter in our guidance, and that's 16% tax rate for the March quarter.

Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director - Networking Equipment/IT Hardware Senior Analyst, JP Morgan

Okay. Just for my follow-up then, Oleg, you've been more recently focused on investing and growing the SE business. This is obviously higher run rate in terms of quarterly revenue for SE, but based on how the portfolio looks today, what the capabilities are, what's the sort of opportunity set for SE? What can be the ceiling in terms of quarterly revenue? Why ought to add more capabilities?

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Well, I probably shouldn't get ahead of myself. We think we can grow that business at a much higher rate than overall Viavi if everything goes as planned. You know, at least double the rate as you know we wanna target. Obviously, with the new platform, a new product, it's coming in at meaningfully higher gross margin than the rest of Viavi. It's really a fact, but we think you know at the very least we should grow at double the rate of NSE business overall.

Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director - Networking Equipment/IT Hardware Senior Analyst, JP Morgan

Thank you. Thanks for taking my questions.

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Sure.

Operator

You're welcome.

Your next question comes from the line of Tim Savageaux with Northland Capital. Your line is open.

Tim Savageaux
Senior Research Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Well, good afternoon. Congrats on the quarter, and that's good timing, 'cause that sort of begs the question, what is the overall NSE growth rate if SE is gonna grow double that? That's really gonna be the focus of my question. You know, like you talked about double-digit growth in fiber and wireless in the quarter. You've got some, you know, easy comps here, but you appear to be guiding to, you know, something going forward. You know, my question is, given the trends you see in the market here, which look pretty positive, you know, is double-digit growth business sustainable?

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Well-

Tim Savageaux
Senior Research Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

as we look into next year?

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

You know, one thing I learned, 10% growth year-over-year becomes increasingly easy. Comparables don't last that long. 10% on $100 million is one thing, 10% on $800 million is a different number, right? I think. Listen, I mean, when we talked originally, we think, you know, for the overall NSE business, maybe moving into the higher single digits is a reasonable number. Remember, I expect some of the segment, you know, clearly the growth segments will grow meaningfully in the double digits, but you also gotta assume some of the legacy segments will decline. Net-net, we kinda-

Tim Savageaux
Senior Research Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Great. Thanks very much.

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Sure. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Richard Shannon with Craig-Hallum Capital. Your line is open.

Richard Shannon
Senior Research Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Sounds like you're getting, showing some signs of early progress there. Would love to get a sense of how far out you could see kind of these share gains starting to manifest themselves. Any way that you can characterize that you have in 5G today, if any way you can help us think of that'd be great, please.

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Sure. I mean, well, 5G is a little tricky, right? It's a. We have a 5G system test, which you know, for infrastructure test, primarily targeting network equipment manufacturers, but also the service provider labs and some of these new players, software-type products. There is a field instrumentation business where we are a newcomer, and there we are viewing that market maybe about $300 million run rate per year when it's fully converts to 5G. We're targeting 25%-33% market share. We think, and done, as things start ramping up, it should be comfortably maybe in the 20s, maybe hit 30, and then continue growing into next year as Europe and other regions start adopting.

Richard Shannon
Senior Research Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Okay, great. That's a great perspective. My follow-on question is on gross margins. I may have misheard you compared to margins overall, but as you grow here, and I guess with 5G field instruments, I guess my understanding was those would be slightly lower gross margins that are generally a you know a higher volume kind of a product. I just wanna make sure that level sets together.

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

If you take like fiber, cable, DSL, a kind of wireline instrumentation, and you take wireless instrumentation, the wireless market generally has the same thing. You have a handheld for cable, you have a handheld for wireless. There is a significantly higher gross margin on the wireless instrument than there is on the cable instrument, but they generally come at a higher margin. I guess you need to have that in order to recoup your investment, right? For example, you'd be selling tens of thousands of units in cable space, and you may be selling, you know, 10,000-20,000 in the wireless space when all said and done.

As we get more wireless content in our instrumentation, we expect the average ASP to go up and the average margins to go up actually as well.

Richard Shannon
Senior Research Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Okay. That is very helpful. Thanks for all that. That's all for me.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Meta Marshall
VP, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks. Maybe first question from me. You know, Oleg, you mentioned that you were seeing some share gains right now on the NE business just from ability to, you know, not have as, or not having as many supply chain issues. Just wondering, you know, as supply chain reverts, or loosens, you know, how do you hold on to some of those share gains that you've seen? And then second, maybe kind of building upon Tim's question of just, you know, clearly fiber is gonna be a growth market for years, but, you know, just, you know, do you see digestion periods over time? Do you see labor or supply chain kind of being a gating item to how fast that business could grow in the near term? Thanks.

Oleg Khaykin
President and CEO, Viavi Solutions

Sure. I think, let's see, your first question was what, Meta? In many deployments, generally when they do it, they kind of try to do 80/20. Ideally, they want to have 100%, but they want to keep everybody honest. First to squeeze you on price, they bring a second, I call them price rabbit for, you know, to for 20%. Well, a lot of these price rabbits often cannot execute, right? As is the case right now, what we are doing is we're taking 100% share. As you're doing all these deployments, it's kind of like possession is 80% of the law.

Once your equipment is in and everybody's practiced, at certain point, you know, when things do get back to normal, you continue to have that natural momentum because people are used to using a certain type of equipment. They're trained. You create a whole new barrier for switching costs and things like that. Also, at the same time when we're doing that, we are introducing a lot more software content and the kind of the software like a cloud applications where all these instruments upload data into the cloud and it generates reporting and visibility.

Well, you know, as you get more and more Viavi instruments and you use Viavi software to optimize your network operations and monitor your network, it just becomes really, somebody can offer you much lower price, but it's, you're gonna be penny wise and pound foolish, since you cannot use that instrument for a lot of other things. So we obviously do our best to make these barriers permanent. Obviously, there's gonna be some of the share may go back, just, you know, for them to keep us honest, I guess. But generally, once you gain share, it becomes like a new normal, okay. Now, regarding the constraints.

Listen, labor is a big constraint, and in North America, they are rolling out fiber, and it is a huge challenge because the same people who are building your fiber, you need those people to build your wireless network, right? To the extent we fuse the two together and we introduce a lot of automation and a lot of the solutions that can run in the background on your network and reduce the truck rolls and reduce, you know, improve the productivity of your, you know, constrained assets, that gives us tremendous opportunities. We're actually seeing that a lot in fiber.

I mean, we view the whole build out of wireless and 5G networks and fiber networks will present us with significant opportunities for this whole field of fiber monitoring, where it's not just instruments, you actually sell a lot of big products and a lot of software that resides in the network and actively and passively monitoring your network operations and triggers alarms when there is a problem. We actually like the more constrained you are on the resources, the more our value proposition resonates with you.

Operator

Perfect. Thanks so much, Oleg. On for closing remarks.

Bill Ong
Senior Director of Finance, Viavi Solutions

Thank you, Josh. This concludes our earnings call for today. Thank you, everyone.

Operator

This concludes the call. You may now disconnect.

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