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Earnings Call: Q4 2021

Feb 16, 2022

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Vulcan Materials Company's fourth quarter earnings call. My name is Catherine, and I will be your conference call coordinator today. During the Q&A portion of this call, we ask that you limit your participation to one question. This will allow everyone who wishes the opportunity to participate. Now, I will turn the call over to your host, Mr. Mark Warren, Vice President of Investor Relations for Vulcan Materials. Mr. Warren, you may begin.

Mark Warren
VP of Investor Relations, Vulcan Materials Company

Good morning, and thank you for your interest in Vulcan Materials. With me today are Tom Hill, Chairman and CEO, and Suzanne Wood, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's call is accompanied by a press release and a supplemental presentation posted to our website, vulcanmaterials.com. A recording of this call will be available for replay later today at our website. Please be reminded that today's discussion may include forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties. These risks, along with other legal disclaimers, are described in detail in the company's earnings release and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Reconciliations of any non-GAAP financial measures are defined and reconciled in our earnings release, our supplemental presentation, and other SEC filings. As the operator indicated, please limit your Q&A participation to one question. With that, I'll turn the call over to Tom.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you, Mark, and thanks to everyone for joining the call this morning. We appreciate your interest in Vulcan Materials Company and hope that you and your families continue to be safe and healthy. As you will have seen from the press release this morning, Suzanne has decided to retire this September to spend some well-deserved time with her family. I'll have more to say on this at the conclusion of my prepared remarks. Now, let's move to our fourth quarter performance, and Suzanne will cover the full year performance later on. I want to thank our team for its strong execution during the fourth quarter. Our financial results were ahead of expectations despite ongoing challenges from inflationary pressures, particularly in energy and labor constraints. Focusing on our operating disciplines and proactive pricing actions, we once again saw expansion in our industry-leading unit profitability.

At the same time, we made excellent progress on integrating U.S. Concrete into our business. This overall strong finish to the year allows us to carry considerable momentum into 2022. We generated $383 million in adjusted EBITDA this quarter, an increase of 23% over 2021. Energy-related inflation was the most significant impact to our business, with $36 million worth of higher costs, of which $17 million were related to diesel fuel, while the remainder related to liquid asphalt and natural gas. Labor pressures caused higher labor costs through overtime. In the face of these challenges, we were still able to manage our controllable costs well. Aggregate cash unit cost of sales increased less than 1% as compared to the prior year's fourth quarter.

This was an excellent operating performance, and I'd like to thank all of our operators and congratulate them on a job well done in 2021, and all the while delivering a world-class safety performance. Our operating performance helped us improve aggregate cash gross profit per ton by 6% to $7.41. This result includes an $8 million acquisition-related impact for selling acquired material after its markup to fair value. Importantly, this progress on cash unit margin expansion represents the 14th consecutive quarter of improvement. We achieved this by consistently executing on our four strategic disciplines, which helped to drive volume growth, higher pricing, and improved operating efficiencies. These strategic disciplines will help us take advantage of the favorable demand and pricing environment in 2022. Total aggregate volume, including U.S. Concrete, increased by 13% versus last year's quarter.

On a same-store basis, volume was up 7%. This reflects not only continued improvement in demand across all end markets, but also favorable weather in November and December. The aggregates pricing environment continues to strengthen across our footprint. Same-store prices were up 3.7% in the quarter as compared to the prior year, and mix adjusted prices increased by 4.2%. Year-over-year, mix adjusted pricing substantially improved throughout the year, having started at 1.3% in the first quarter. The pricing actions taken to date, along with better demand visibility, set the stage for a favorable pricing environment in 2022. Asphalt gross profit was $4 million in the quarter, compared to $17 million last year, as a 35% increase in liquid asphalt costs created a $17 million headwind for us.

As we discussed before, liquid asphalt costs were at three-year lows in 2020, and the significant fluctuation of these costs have made for a more difficult comp year -over -year. The good news is that our selling price for asphalt mix increased 5% from prior year quarter. Through 2022, as pricing catches up, we will work to get back to Asphalt segment's long-term averages in terms of margins. Concrete's gross profit grew from $9 million to $22 million in the fourth quarter. This increase was due to the acquisition combined with higher shipments and price growth in our legacy business. Results were negatively impacted by higher diesel prices and the availability of drivers. Before we move on to the overall demand environment, I'll comment briefly on U.S. Concrete. We continue to be excited about this acquisition and how it expands our footprint.

It naturally complements our existing aggregates business in California, Texas, and Virginia, and gives us access to new platforms in the Northeast. We moved immediately following the acquisition to begin securing cost savings and synergy opportunities. As I mentioned previously, the integration is going well, and our progress accelerated through the fourth quarter with both operational and back office standpoint. I am pleased with how the business and management teams have blended seamlessly during the first four months of ownership. We remain confident in our ability to generate at least $50 million of initial synergies, initial cost synergies on a 12-month run basis beginning this year. Now I'll touch briefly on the demand picture, which is increasingly positive. A key takeaway is that for the first time in many years, all four end uses are expected to grow.

The residential end use has continued to show growth in starts in both single family and multi-family housing, and we expect starts to continue at these high levels. Non-residential starts continue to strengthen over a broader range of categories. Improving non-residential demand will be positive and help drive growth in our aggregates, concrete businesses. On the public side, growth is expected in both highways and other infrastructure. The recently enacted Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act will add to existing demand as well as elongating the cycle. Having said that, we do not expect this to have a significant impact in 2022. We are well positioned in the attractive growth markets we serve, and those markets are poised to benefit greatly from the legislation in coming years.

Before I turn the call over to Suzanne, I want to reiterate our confidence in our prospects for 2022, particularly with respect to demand visibility, pricing, and our ability to control what we can control. We will be mindful of potential pressures from both inflationary trends and tight labor markets. We will continue to focus on operating excellence and our strategic sourcing disciplines to help offset some of these pressures. Now I'll turn the call over to Suzanne for further comments. Suzanne?

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thanks, Tom, and good morning to everyone. While we faced some challenges in 2021, it was a year of significant accomplishments, including the completion of our acquisition. Our most notable financial achievements were the growth in our unit profitability and adjusted EBITDA. Full year Aggregates cash gross profit per ton rose by 5%, while adjusted EBITDA increased by 10%. The ability to generate numbers like this while incurring $93 million of higher energy-related costs across the segment demonstrates the strength, flexibility, and resiliency of our Aggregates-focused business model. It also points to the contributions of our four strategic disciplines, which help us make the most of any economic environment. Aggregates prices increased by 3% as compared to the prior year, and we held our cash unit cost growth to less than 2% through efficiency improvements and general cost controls.

This allowed us to offset inflationary pressures and improve our unit profitability. With respect to the balance sheet, we quickly reduced our net leverage to the top end of our target range, ending the year at 2.5 x. Given our ability to generate strong cash flows, there is capacity and liquidity to invest in other opportunities, whether organic or inorganic, but as always, we will be disciplined in doing so. Certainly, we'll continue to prioritize sensible leverage and financial flexibility in order to support our capital allocation priorities and maintain our investment grade ratings. Our debt structure is sound with loan maturity that makes sense for our business. Our capital allocation priorities remain unchanged and have led to an improving return on investment profile. On a trailing twelve-month basis, our ROIC was 14.2%.

While investing in growth and overcoming inflation and a pandemic, we have improved our ROIC by 160 basis points over the past three years. Now, turning to our outlook, let me make a few comments before turning the call back over to Tom. Following a strong performance in 2021, we expect 2022 to be another good year of earnings growth. In terms of our guidance, it incorporates the full year contribution of U.S. Concrete. Given the level of integration and change going on in our business, we are providing guidance on a consolidated basis. We expect adjusted EBITDA of between $1.72 billion and $1.82 billion. The midpoint of this range represents a 22% increase over 2021. We've outlined the more detailed guidance in the press release, but let me touch on a couple of key items.

First, we project a high single-digit growth in our Aggregates cash gross profit per ton, driven by an expected 6%-8% increase in aggregates pricing and 5%-7% increase in shipping volume. As mentioned on the third quarter call, volumes may be affected by labor constraints, and therefore we've tried to be thoughtful about the volume guidance range. If labor constraints continue in 2022, it's important to remember that the work is still there. It may just proceed at a slower pace, effectively extending the recovery and allowing us the opportunity to compound our unit margins. With respect to costs, they're expected to rise by mid-single digits, but we will do all we can to control what we can control. In non-aggregates, we anticipate cash gross profit of $300 million-$325 million, with approximately 75% of that coming from concrete.

Most of the improvement will be driven by a full year of earnings from the acquisition of U.S. Concrete, but also from improvement in our asphalt and legacy concrete businesses. SG&A expenses will range from $485 million-$495 million, reflecting the inclusion of U.S. Concrete and anticipated synergies as described on our last call. Finally, we expect to invest between $600 million and $650 million in capital expenditures, including growth and capacity adding projects. This compares to $465 million invested in 2021 and includes a full year of expenditures for U.S. Concrete. I'll turn the call back over to Tom now for closing remarks.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you, Suzanne. Before we go to Q&A, I want to comment on a supply chain issue. For 30 years, Vulcan Materials has quarried limestone near Playa del Carmen, Mexico, on land that we own. We are extremely proud of our history as a good corporate citizen, and I am particularly proud of the 450 operators at that facility. We operate safely and have contributed thousands of hours in service to the surrounding communities and the environment. Since late 2018, we have been engaged in a NAFTA arbitration with Mexico in order to secure our rights to quarry future reserves. A hearing took place in 2021, and we expect a ruling in the second half of 2022. We have continued to engage with government officials to pursue an amicable resolution of that dispute.

However, recently, Mexico has taken additional actions to adversely affect our operations in Mexico. We are focused on taking care of our customers affected by these actions, and we will continue to work with the Mexican authorities to reach a mutually agreeable and beneficial solution. Now, looking at Vulcan in total, I want to again thank the entire Vulcan team for their hard work and dedication to servicing our customers. Our people are what makes Vulcan better every day. We have and will always operate Vulcan for the long term. This includes keeping our people safe and improving on our already world-class safety record. The three key elements of our near-term strategy that will deliver value for our shareholders are the following. One, execute at a local level. Two, drive unit margin expansion by focusing on our four strategic disciplines. Three, maximize synergies with U.S. Concrete.

I'm looking forward to working with our teams this year to accomplish our goals. Before I close, let me comment on the leadership changes I mentioned at the beginning of my comments. Effective March 1, Darren Hicks will serve as our Chief Human Resources Officer. Our culture and our people are key to our success, and Darren brings a wealth of experience to the new role. We are confident he is the right person to continue to help drive Vulcan forward into the future. Of course, as I said, Suzanne is planning to retire later this year. Mary Andrews Carlisle will be replacing Suzanne effective September 1st. She is the ideal person to step into Suzanne's shoes. Having worked closely with both Suzanne and me in the planning and execution of our strategy for a number of years now.

Although we hate to see Suzanne go, we fully support her decision, and we are grateful for her commitment to ensure a smooth transition. Now Suzanne and I will be happy to take questions.

Operator

If you would like to ask a question, please press star and one on your touchtone phone. Again, that is star and one if you would like to ask a question. You can remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing pound key. Our first caller, Noah Merkousko with Stephens. Your line is open.

Noah Merkousko
Senior Associate, Stephens

Good morning.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Good morning.

Noah Merkousko
Senior Associate, Stephens

Congrats on a nice finish for the year.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you.

Noah Merkousko
Senior Associate, Stephens

Tom and Suzanne, thanks for all that detail on the guide. Could you talk about how you're thinking about the puts and takes around the cadence of how this year is expected to unfold in 2022?

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Sure. I think as we look at 2022, it's important we look back because it sets the tone. As it goes to 2021, I'm really proud of our people's performance over the last two years. Despite a pandemic, labor shortages, inflation, we were able to grow unit margins mid-single digit over the last two years, and that just tells me our strategic disciplines are working. Look, our teams turned in EBITDA growth of 10% the last year, despite $93 million in extra energy costs. This is just a job well done. If you look forward to 2022, it's shaping up to be a really exciting year. You got all four end uses should experience growth. The fundamentals for demand growth are really good.

Albeit there'll be some headwinds from, you know, labor, supply chain issues. If those, the supply chain issues and labor ease up, you probably got some upside on volume. We try to be thoughtful there, so we got to see that happen first. Pricing momentum built through the year in 2021, and we carried that momentum into 2022. I think we'll see continued disciplined cost control like we saw last year, even in the face of inflation. That discipline allows us to grow aggregates unit margins by high single digits in 2022. We'll see, on top of that, I think we'll see both volume and unit margin growth in Concrete and Asphalt, as we march through 2022. Now remember, the fourth quarter is gonna have some challenges.

You still got the same energy comps you saw in Q3 and Q4 of last year. We probably will have a challenge of energy of some $25 million. Weather was challenging in January, February. You had some COVID spikes that affected crews and labor in January. I think we can get past that and have a really strong and exciting 2022.

Operator

The next question comes from Stanley Elliott with Stifel . Your line is open.

Stanley Elliott
Managing Director, Stifel

Good morning, everyone. Thank you all for taking the question. Suzanne, best of luck. I know we don't have plenty of time to hear you on these calls, but can you talk a little bit more about the confidence that you're seeing on the residential market? I mean, some of the mortgage rates, some of those sorts of numbers seem to be maybe not quite as positive as we've seen. On the flip side, you know, certainly I think there's an argument there's a lot of margins that are especially that are built in in part of your commitment. Just curious what sort of conversations you're hearing and having with some of these builders on longer term land issues and things like that would give us a little more confidence even beyond 2022.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Oh, good morning first of all. I would tell you, I think yes, we see strong growth in 2022. I think it's very widespread across almost all of our markets. Maybe some weakness in Chicago, Baltimore. You've got new subdivision construction continuing, so it's very aggregate intensive, which is great for us. I would tell you it's gonna be a bit slower. It'll grow at a bit slower rate than what we saw in 2021, which was, as we all know, white hot. As you called out, that's due to supply constraints, inflation and interest rates and land. You know, all in all a good sign. Now, you know, just step back and look at interest rates. Freddie Mac rate for 30 years, it's 3.7%. That's still extremely low rate.

While not as fast as 2021, it will see growth.

Operator

The next question comes from Kathryn Thompson with Thompson Research. Your line is open.

Kathryn Thompson
CEO, Thompson Research Group

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions today. Suzanne, best of luck into your new chapter.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you.

Kathryn Thompson
CEO, Thompson Research Group

I wanted to for guidance for 2022, I just wanna look backwards in order to look forward just for some clarifications, especially with USCR in the mix . First on the concrete side, can you give your take from the concrete business and how New York and California ops were impacted by Omicron shutdowns, and what does that mean going into 2022? Then on the aggregate side, once again with guidance, the delta between same store sales volumes versus those contributed by USCR in Q4, and then how that delta should be accounted for in 2022 guidance. Thank you.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah, thank you. Let's start with aggregates. As we look back, you know, we finished last year really strong. Q3 was up 8%, 5% on same store. Q4 was up 13%, 7% on the same store. You gotta really look at those quarters to understand that. Remember, Q3 comp was comping over 2020, where we had the most severe shelter in place. It was a pretty easy comp. Then in Q4, we saw unseasonably good weather in November and December. Now, when you turn to 2022, as we said, the good news is fundamentals are there. We're seeing growth in all four end uses. You got, that's dampened by challenges from supply chain, labor, and for our customers and particularly for our carriers. Transportation may be a challenge. It's probably gonna be a challenge in 2022.

The guide in the volume is growth of 5%-7%. You know, same store is really hard to call out because those businesses are now so integrated. There's lots of mixing and matching, but if I had to call that out, I'd call it 2%-4% range and try to be thoughtful about that guidance because of all of the challenges we're seeing from labor and supply constraints. If the supply constraints and labor ease up, we probably got upside volume in Aggregates. On Concrete, if you remember, volumes were challenged in Concrete in 2021 due to in California and New York, because they were the most severe shelter in place.

Some offices shut down, so when we got to the point where we couldn't get customers couldn't get building permits. I think that as you look forward. Then we had challenges with diesel and efficiencies because traffic came back in. I really like how 2022 is shaping up for concrete. Volume should be much improved. You know, we've passed the air pocket of shelter in place in Northern California, New York. Remember, you got non-residential demand segment return to growth in 2022. That's a big impact on concrete. DFW continues to be very good. We'll see volume growth in 2022, but we'll also start to see margin expansion as prices have moved past headwinds. You couple all of this with our California, Texas, and Virginia, the Vulcan and USC businesses are functioning as one.

I think concrete will be a much improved business in 2022.

Operator

The next question comes from Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Jerry Revich
Senior Financial Officer, Goldman Sachs

Yes, hi. Good morning, everyone, and Suzanne, congratulations.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you.

Jerry Revich
Senior Financial Officer, Goldman Sachs

I'm wondering if we could just get your stance on the situation in Mexico. Sorry to hear you have to go through that after all the years of safe operations there. Can you talk about what the contingency plans are for serving customers? Is it via rail from the Georgia area? You know, obviously that comes at a higher cost, so I'm wondering, are we able to push through the higher costs in real time as we face this disruption? Thanks.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah, first of all, we're not having to do that. I think let's step back and look at Mexico. It's important to note that we have all the legal rights to operate in Mexico. We have all the appropriate permits in place. We're in negotiations to come to a resolution that benefits all the parties of interest. Mexico is interested in our properties for tourism, which we believe will coexist with our existing operations. In fact, we think that continue to operate there will ultimately benefit the overall volume for tourism, and we believe this will happen. If you kind of put it in perspective, we shipped a little over 70 million tons to the U.S. from Mexico in 2021.

Those tons are in our guidance, and we continue shipping from our yards, and we're now back shipping from Mexico to the U.S. So this thing will work out. We'll be fine. You know, you could supplement some by rail, but at this point, we're shipping, and we're servicing our customers. I think if you really step back in this, in the big picture for all of this stuff and the opportunity in 2022 is a big opportunity we're talking about in volume and price. Overall, it shapes it up to be a very good year. We'll get our situation in Mexico.

Operator

We'll go now to Anthony Pettinari with Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Anthony Pettinari
Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Good morning.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Morning.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Good morning.

Anthony Pettinari
Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Hey, congratulations to Suzanne on the next chapter.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you.

Anthony Pettinari
Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

I'm just wondering, in terms of, infrastructure spending, if you could remind us the kind of the timing, that you expect for that demand to flow through in 2022 and maybe more in 2023. In terms of the appropriations bill, which seems like it's been stalled, is the delay there, does it have the potential to meaningfully impact the timing of that infrastructure spending and when you would see that, through aggregate sales? Just any thoughts on that?

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah. I think first of all, to highway demand in 2022, we'll see growth there. I think it will flow through and probably ramp up as the year goes along. States are flush with capital as tax receipts are up across the board. Remember, those states still have COVID relief funds. Now that money is accelerating in lettings and bid work. 2022 demand should grow throughout the year sequentially. We don't think we'll see any of the IIJA funds in 2022, maybe a little bit at the end of the year, but it's really a 2023, 2024 play. Let's take a look at how IIJA flows. Money flows two ways through this.

First, funds that flow through regular federal programs prior to IIJA, like things like the FAST Act, are fully available to states post appropriations once we get appropriations. Second, funds from new discretionary programs will flow later, because you have to write the directives and enact the programs. This is why we say that the new funding, the additional funding, will take time to flow through, which is why we predict we'll start to hit in 2023, 2024. I think it's important to remember, 76% of IIJA funds will be distributed to states via formula. 2/3 of those formula funds will go into Vulcan states. This is a big deal and a big advantage to Vulcan-served states.

Operator

The next question comes from Garik Shmois with Loop Capital. Your line is open.

Garik Shmois
Research Analyst, Loop Capital Markets

Thank you. On the pricing guidance, obviously since pricing increases here at the beginning of the year and throughout the first quarter are being well accepted. If you could provide any color on how those discussions are going, and does the guidance at all rely on additional pricing beyond what you've already announced? You know, of course, let me throw my congratulations to Suzanne there as well.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you, Garik.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah. Well, pricing, I think, is a really good story from the beginning of last year. You know, we built a lot of momentum as we talked about in 2021, and we carried that into 2022. You know, look, we say it all the time, inflation and visibility and growing demand are excellent catalysts for price increases. You know, you saw us, our guide to 6%-8% price range. We have a lot of confidence in that. It's very widespread. It's through all markets. Now, included in that, we don't have second half price increases. They're not in our guidance. They are possible. There is some upside. It's way too early to call that. We'll start having discussions here in the next few months about that.

I think we'll have a lot better feel for that as we get into the second quarter. At this point, you know, 6%-8% is great. As the world goes along and demand continues to improve, there'll be opportunity for pricing. I think we're confident in the midpoint of 7% or the range of 6%-8%, going into this. That's what leads us to high single-digit margin growth with our operating abilities, and we think that's a strong showing for 2022.

Garik Shmois
Research Analyst, Loop Capital Markets

I recognize that 2022 was contending with these inflationary costs. I think you said you're embedding mid-single digits, yes. I'm just curious if that is kicking in where diesel and liquid asphalt are today, or any relief there. When we think of 2023, is there any chance that we see some relief that incrementals on the Aggregates side could be in that 60% target range? Thank you.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Let's take it remote first. I mean, we were very close to just below 60% in 2021. I think we'll be around. You know, we guided to 60% in 2022, which is kind of where we always guide to. I think that doing that in a period where you've got as big a jump in diesel costs is a heck of an operating performance. I'm proud of that performance in 2021 and confident we'll be able to do it in 2022 to the target of 60% on incrementals. As we look at the operating side of the business and costs, I would tell you I could not be more proud of our Vulcan operators and their performance in 2020 and 2021 and going into 2022. As always, they made sure that our people were healthy and safe.

They just crushed rock like champs. Just step back and think. Our total cost of sales was only up 1.5% last year, with diesel up over $40 million. That's with all goods and services were dramatically up. Labor was up. That, that's our operational strategic discipline at work. I'm proud of those guys, those men and women. We're carrying that momentum into 2022. You know, we're calling out maybe a little higher cost increases with mid-single-digit, really driven by, as you called out, fuel, but you also got labor and you got inflation, just everything we use. You know, that still leads us to high single-digit, you know, margins and in a, in a period of inflation like we got, that is a very good performance.

You know, that's what Vulcan is built for. That's what we talk about all the time. This is who we are. We're built to dampen headwinds like you see and take advantage of tailwinds with the extra volume and price and, you know, we did it in 2020. We did it in 2021. I have all the confidence in the world. Our men and women will be able to do it in 2022.

Operator

Now to Mike Dahl with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Chris Kalata
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hi, this is actually Chris Kalata on for Mike. Thanks for taking my question. I was hoping to ask about your thoughts on the supply chain outlook this year. Obviously it has implications on volumes and pricing. I was wondering, you mentioned potential upside if things start to improve. Any way you could help quantify the potential upside there and if the extent supply conditions don't improve, you know, what upside is there on the pricing as an offset? Just your thoughts on how that evolves through the year.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah. You know, it is for us, and I'll take our operations then our customers. Our procurement folks, and I'll call them out, they did a great job. We've had very few internally. Now, getting rock to customers was a challenge in 2021. It'll be a challenge in 2022. That is from both rail and truck. That is labor. You know, it is challenging. The railroads are all having trouble. I think they're. They say they're gonna improve. I believe them. I think it will get better, but it's still a challenge. Then you just look at projects out there and you talk to our customers, and it's everything from switchgear to, you know, some types of pipe, to doorknobs, to windows, to, you know, plumbing parts.

It's just so widespread and it's. I think it's too early to call anything better than what we've seen in our guidance. I think in our guidance we were thoughtful. Again, if things start to ease up, I think you got opportunity there. As we look at price, you know, I would call our cadence of price last year was a pretty sharp curve. I think that curve won't be as sharp as it is this year. I think you'll see more consistent pricing throughout the year in that 6%-8% range, kind of starting in the first quarter and working all the way through. Again, if we have opportunities for second half prices, and it's too early to call, maybe that curve gets a little steeper or that slope gets a little steeper.

We'll keep plugging at that, and we'll keep you posted.

Operator

Next question comes from Phil Ng with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Phil Ng
Managing Director, Jefferies

Hey, guys. Suzanne, thanks for all the help through the years. Mary, congrats. I'm looking forward to working with you.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you.

Phil Ng
Managing Director, Jefferies

Tom, I guess, you kind of alluded to mid-year price increases a few times on this call. I believe one of your bigger competitors have actually some commentary in their pricing letters for the first time that, hey, signaling to their customers that you should probably expect one this year. How have you guys kind of approached that? Have you started signaling to your investor, I mean, your customers on potentially a mid-year price increase for aggregates? Any color on, you know, the pricing momentum you're seeing in California, how does that kind of stack up to the 5%-8% you guided? Thanks so much.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

I think that at this point, I think you guide to the 6%-8%. I think we know we're. This is February. This is the middle of February. We're just starting to have conversations with fixed plant about mid-year. It's really early in the process. Same thing with bid work. Way too early to call. I think I'm confident in the 6%-8%, but we'll see what happens. I would tell you that pricing in California is consistent with the rest of our model. There's opportunity there. You know, our customers know the inflationary pressures we have, and they have them also, so it's. They're also looking at moving their pricing. The whole sector is going up. Again, that visibility to growing demand gives people the confidence to take risks on price.

Then you've got the inflationary pressures. It's just a little easier conversation. I think it's while we're beginning to have conversations about second half pricing and there may be opportunity there. It's way too early to call.

Operator

We'll go now to Adam Thalhimer with Thompson Davis. Your line is open.

Adam Thalhimer
Director of Research, Thompson Davis

Hey, good morning, guys. Congrats on a strong Q4. Hey, on the asphalt side, Tom, real quickly, can you comment on the outlook for volumes in California and Arizona this year?

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah, good. Both of them improved. You know, Arizona got hit last year, and it was a problem for us with volume in 2021. It was really timing on projects, and it was supply chain. We got held down, our customers got held up with, I think, some big piping and other parts for utilities that just held up projects. I would tell you both have opportunity for improved volume, and I think that like the rest of the product line, as we march through the year sequentially and prices go up, after we get in the second half, we'll see margin growth. Now, first half's gonna be a challenge because you probably got a big negative comp and liquid AC of about $15 million in Q1. We'll get past that.

As we saw prices go up in Q4, 4% or 5%, they're moving up, and as we always do, we got to, that's a delay there. It's transient, and we'll catch it.

Operator

Going out to Michael Dudas with Vertical Research. Your line is open.

Michael Dudas
Equity Research Analyst and Partner, Vertical Research

Good morning, Mark, Tom. Congrats, Suzanne, and a shout-out to Mary and Darren as well.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah. Thank you.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you.

Michael Dudas
Equity Research Analyst and Partner, Vertical Research

Tom, you mentioned in your prepared remarks that you're seeing some growth in non-res. Maybe share some views on if light's starting to catch up to the visibility on heavy and if that's something that can continue to gain strength throughout the year given the supply chain issues. Are there any difference in supply chain issues on non-res ultimately [audio distortion]-

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah.

Michael Dudas
Equity Research Analyst and Partner, Vertical Research

from the other products?

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

A little bit. You know, it's non-res; the last couple of years have been pretty volatile. We spent 2020 falling. We've spent 2021 recovering, and we'll see growth in 2022. Tech non-res still strong in 2022. I think we're seeing growth in traditional non-res, which as we predicted is following subdivision growth. That's coming on in 2022. We're starting to see green shoots in high-rise projects. You know, importantly, remember non-res is very important for, and very good for our concrete business, so our timing's good with that, with the purchase of U.S. Concrete. It's a sector we're excited about. They too have supply chain issues. Yes, they're different from res.

I think they're probably a little less challenged, but it's a volatile situation, and we'll have to watch it as we go through the year.

Operator

The next question comes from David MacGregor with Longbow Research. Your line is open.

David MacGregor
President, Longbow Research

Good morning, everyone.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Morning.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Good morning.

David MacGregor
President, Longbow Research

Suzanne, congrats.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah. Thank you.

David MacGregor
President, Longbow Research

I guess I wanted to, Tom, you had talked about the fact that you don't expect the IIJA business to really come through meaningfully, at least until 2023. In the meantime, in 2022, you've got all four of your main verticals firing here, and it's creating a 6%-8% price environment. What happens if those four verticals remain strong into 2023, and then you layer in on top of that the incremental business associated with the IIJA? What gives? I mean, how do you find marketing discipline here? Is it prices just compress margin, or do you bring on incremental channel capacity? I realize you probably have rock capacity, but it'd be more of the channel capacity, I guess. But how do I think about how that resolves in 2023?

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

You know, I think what you see is continuing compounding unit margins. I think that, you know, what we said was that the IIJA gives us a lot more security of extending the cycle. Because if you were to have an air pocket in the private side, you cover it up with IIJA. I think we stick to our disciplines, and that's why those core strategic disciplines are so important, that you continue to service your customer and earn that price through the commercial efforts. We take that price and those and that to the bottom line, but continue our operations disciplines and our cost control and our operating efficiencies. We use the procurement to make sure we get the goods and services we need to keep those operations running in times of supply chain and labor challenges.

Those logistics, it's tough to get. Logistics is so important these days because there's just a shortage of labor in both rail and truck. Us being a piece of that is really important to maximize profitability. You, you're right. It bodes well if we believe the private side will continue. It bodes really well if that happens. Even if there's a little slippage or something happens that would challenge that, I think the magnitude of this extends the cycle and continuous growing our margins.

Operator

Next question comes from Courtney Yakavonis with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Courtney Yakavonis
Equity Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi, good morning, guys, and congrats, Suzanne.

Suzanne Wood
SVP and CFO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thanks, Courtney.

Courtney Yakavonis
Equity Analyst, Morgan Stanley

I just wanted to follow up on some of the discussion about the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. I think you mentioned, you know, you think it might take a little bit longer to hit in 2023 and 2024. You know, at this point, are you thinking it's a relatively even impact between the two years? Do you see it more weighted to 2023 and then just, you know, incremental follow-through in 2024?

Or is it the other way around? And then how are you thinking about it from a volume perspective versus a pricing perspective? Do you have more confidence that we'll see a significant increase in volumes? Or do you anticipate more of it coming through on the pricing side? And I think someone had asked here about hyperbolic pricing, but are we setting up for a situation where we could have two to three years of sustained double-digit pricing growth?

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Yeah. From a volume perspective and the cadence of the new funding, what we're saying is because, and this is where I talked about the second new discretionary programs, they take time to flow through because you have to write regulations and act programs. That just takes time. That's the reason we say, look, we'll have growth in 2022 from states increase in funding.

The new federal fund increase in funding will start to flow through in 2023 as they enact those programs. They get the lettings, and then they get the jobs to work and we ship rock. I would expect a ramp up through 2022, maybe a little bit this year. I'll be doubtful, but you'll start to see a ramp up in demand as we march through 2023, 2024 to 2025 as those programs mature and those funds flow to work. Now with that, embedded in that is you will have very clear visibility via state DOTs to work that's coming, and that's growing demand. That visibility to growing demand gives everyone confidence to take risk on jobs, to take risk on price.

It'll be good for both volume and price. I would expect from volume a gradual ramp up, you know, 2023, 2024, 2025, and pricing to follow.

Operator

This does conclude our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Tom Hill for any closing remarks.

Tom Hill
Chairman and CEO, Vulcan Materials Company

Thank you guys for your time today. As always, we appreciate your interest in Vulcan. We hope that you keep you and your families safe and happy. Suzanne and Mary Andrews and Mark and I will be out to see you in the coming days and weeks. You guys have a great rest of the day. Thank you.

Operator

Thanks so much. This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.

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