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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Aug 4, 2022

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to Veris Residential second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. Today's call is being recorded. I would like to remind everyone that certain information discussed on this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Securities law. Although we believe the estimates reflected in these statements are based on reasonable assumption, we cannot give assurance that anticipated results will be achieved. We refer you to the company's press release, annual and quarterly reports filed in the SEC for risk factors that impact the company. With that, I would like to hand you over to Mahbod Nia, Veris Residential's Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Good morning, and welcome to our second quarter 2022 earnings call. I'm joined by our CFO, Amanda Lombard. We are pleased to announce another solid quarter during which our multifamily portfolio again posted sector-leading rental and NOI growth while maintaining occupancy at around 97%. These results reflect the significant steps we have taken over the past 18 months to noticeably transform the company, repositioning the portfolio and enhancing our operational platform. Today, NOI contribution from multifamily sits at 83% on a pro forma basis, up from 39% as of the end of the first quarter of 2021. Approximately 1,900 multifamily units have been added to our portfolio, representing growth of over 30% during this time.

A significant increase in NOI across our stabilized assets, driven by strong demand across our properties, was evidenced by continued leasing velocity at Haus25, which is now 66% leased and nearly 50% occupied. We also made progress in our strategic transformation, closing our acquisition of The James and signing definitive agreements for the sales of the Hyatt Regency Jersey City and 23 Main Street, our last remaining suburban office asset. The operating fundamentals across our 6,691 unit multifamily portfolio remained strong during the quarter, with occupancy at 97.1% and a blended net rental growth rate of 21%, a figure that was up from 16% in the first quarter, and that we continued to maintain at around 20% through July.

Loss to lease was approximately 5% across the portfolio, down from 6% in the first quarter, despite rising headline rents. I would like to thank our teams for their continued dedication and hard work, including the tremendous effort to lease nearly 500 units in Haus25 in just four months. Our 5,825 units, same-store operating portfolio also maintained strong occupancy at 96.8% while continuing to increase rents in line with market trends. Same-store year-over-year NOI grew by 28%, the third consecutive quarter of sector-leading NOI growth, reflecting higher occupancy relative to last year and lower concessions and increasing rents during the quarter.

As has been well documented, we're in an environment that is rife with economic uncertainty, with the two greatest risks at the forefront of investors' minds being inflation and a potential recession. While not immune, we continue to believe that the multifamily asset class, and in particular Class A properties, possesses unique characteristics that make it well-positioned to outperform in either of these scenarios. The shorter-term nature of our leases provides a natural hedge against inflation, with the ability to continue capturing rental growth, particularly as supply remains subdued and homeownership an expensive alternative. Rising construction costs and replacement values should provide support to capital values of standing stock. The defensive characteristics of multifamily, namely that it is a critical nondiscretionary expenditure item, should provide a degree of downside protection in a recession scenario.

The proximity of our New Jersey portfolio to New York, with our rents being approximately half of those in Manhattan, further supports this thesis. Looking ahead, we see our portfolio continuing to benefit from favorable market dynamics, including a strong tenant base, reduced affordability of housing alternatives, and limited supply across our key markets. On July 21st, we closed the acquisition of The James, a newly built 96.7% leased Class A 240-unit apartment building located in Park Ridge for $129.6 million. The transaction is anticipated to contribute approximately $0.05-$0.06 to core FFO per share in the first year on an annualized basis.

Turning to asset sales, as previously announced, during the quarter, we completed the disposal of the Urby land parcel in Jersey City and the land parcel in Port Imperial for a total of $100 million. We also signed definitive agreements to sell the Hyatt Hotel and 23 Main Street, our last remaining suburban office asset, for a total of $132 million. Together, these sales are expected to release approximately $20 million of net proceeds to the company. As we look to our office portfolio, as of the end of the second quarter, the waterfront assets were 70.6% leased. We leased 24,200 sq ft, reflecting approximately 48% of the total leasing volume in the broader New Jersey waterfront market in the three-month period.

We also continue to make meaningful progress in our efforts to become a more responsible, sustainable and inclusive company. In May, we released our 2021 ESG report in which we committed to reducing our Scope 1 and 2 emissions by 50% by 2030. A target we have validated by the Science Based Targets initiative, and that we are well on the way to achieving. As a result of our enhanced ESG efforts, today approximately 40% of our wholly owned multi-family portfolio is green certified, LEED or equivalent. Additionally, our introduction of new, more sustainability focused policies at the corporate and property levels, as well as our enriched environmental and sustainability disclosures, have been accredited by two independent third parties, both of whom take a data driven scoring approach to measuring corporate, environmental, and social disclosures.

As of this past June, Veris Residential earned a quality score rating of 1, the highest score from ISS for both environmental and social disclosures, up from ratings of 9 and 8 respectively received in October 2020. As of July, we saw a 26% increase in our Arabesque S-Ray score from ESG Book, a partner of Glass Lewis, as compared to the prior year, putting us above the 90th percentile in the broader finance sector. These sector leading ESG scores reflect our continued commitment towards our properties, people, and the planet, while seeking to create value for our shareholders. With that, I'm going to hand it over to Amanda, who will update you on our financial performance during the quarter.

Amanda Lombard
CFO, Veris Residential

Thanks, Mahbod Nia. For the second quarter of 2022, net income available to common shareholders was 25 cents per fully diluted share versus a loss of 13 cents per fully diluted share in the prior quarter. Net income available to common shareholders was up quarter-over-quarter due to a large gain of approximately $55 million on the sale of land parcels, the proceeds of which were used for the acquisition of The James. Core FFO for the quarter was 15 cents per fully diluted share as compared to 9 cents per fully diluted share last quarter. This increase was driven primarily by further sequential improvement in residential performance of 3 cents per share and hotel performance of 3 cents per share. Core G&A improved by 1 cent per share this quarter due to lower professional fees in the second quarter.

The Urby tax credit contributed $0.025 per share to Core FFO, which as a reminder, is recorded in the equity and earnings of our unconsolidated joint ventures. Note that while we receive this tax credit annually, its timing varies, and thus, we have historically excluded it from our same store numbers and continue to do so now. All of this is offset by a $0.03 per share increase in interest expense due to a reduction in capitalized interest as a result of Haus25 opening. As Mahbod mentioned, year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter same store NOI was up 28% and 8% respectively. The year-over-year increase is driven by net rental growth of 17% and a modest increase in expenses of 2.6%, well below the current rate of inflation.

The 3 lease-up properties that stabilized in the fourth quarter of 2021 contributed $3.9 million of NOI during the quarter, up 4.1% from last quarter. Looking ahead, our last significant COVID concessions will burn off in the third quarter, and we are expecting an increase in real estate taxes in Jersey City. While not final, we project a $3 million annualized tax increase, of which $2 million will be incurred in the third quarter. We remain well-positioned to continue mitigating the impact of inflation on our controllable expenses, as evidenced by our efforts to streamline operations, implement ESG-related measures, and increase the utilization of technology, which coupled with recent investments in our teams, will allow us to more quickly identify and respond to problematic trends in a timely fashion.

This is exemplified through our same store margin, excluding property management fees, improving from 54.9% in Q4 2020 to 64.4% as of this quarter. In the fourth quarter, we expect to close the sales of the two assets that have recently gone under contract, subject to customary closing conditions. However, for 23 Main, we will lease back the site through the remainder of the tenant's lease term at the same rate, resulting in no impact to Core FFO through lease expiration. This quarter also marks the first period in which Haus25 began to contribute to earnings, ahead of our expectation, and we anticipate this contribution will grow significantly as the property reaches its stabilized occupancy. Finally, turning to our balance sheet. We refinanced the construction loan on RiverHouse 9 subsequent to quarter end.

We also drew down $28 million on our credit facility to fund the acquisition of The James, which we anticipate repaying with the proceeds from the sale of land parcels under binding contract. Our net debt to adjusted EBITDA, which is quite sensitive to earnings, fell this quarter to 14.1 times versus 18.8 times in the first quarter due to the same factors which drove higher relative Core FFO this quarter. As some of these factors, such as the Urby tax credit, will not recur next quarter, we expect net debt to adjusted EBITDA to fluctuate as we continue to work through the balance of the transition. By contrast, our debt to undepreciated assets ratio and our interest coverage ratio remain relatively constant at around 45% and 2 times respectively.

We believe our company is well-positioned in a rising interest rate environment with 76% of our total debt portfolio fixed and/or hedged at a weighted average interest rate of 3.69% with a weighted average maturity of 5 years. Our multi-family debt is 100% senior secured, primarily non-recourse, and none of it is cross-collateralized. With that, I think we are ready for questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys.

If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Steve Sakwa
Senior Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Evercore ISI

Thank you, and good morning. Mahbod Nia, I was wondering if you could just provide an update on the transaction market, you know, how has this changed over the last 3-6 months? To the extent there are any bids out there today, where are you seeing bid-ask spreads for office product?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Good morning, Steve. Thank you for the question. It's a very relevant one. Well, certainly, I'd say in the last 3-6 months, given the rising rate environment, and Fed action and the implications that's had on the financing markets, it has been a challenging transactional market for sure. I think it's primarily driven by actually the credit markets and availability and cost of debt. Having said that, you know, we continue to make progress this quarter, as you saw, and are somewhat accustomed to operating in challenging environments and continuing to make, you know, progress as we have done over the course of the past 18 months or so.

you know, we're still optimistic that there's a path forward and we can continue the transformation, but it is a challenging transaction market out there.

Steve Sakwa
Senior Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Evercore ISI

Are you seeing any interest from levered buyers today, or are they just pretty much sitting on the sidelines at this point?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

For office or multifamily?

Steve Sakwa
Senior Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Evercore ISI

Office.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

No, you are. I think depends on the product and the risk and return profile, but certainly there's a lot of capital that's been raised sitting on the sidelines looking for value add type opportunities. This is certainly the sort of environment and the asset class indeed that they would be looking to deploy and to have an opportunity at delivering the sort of returns that they've undertaken to.

Steve Sakwa
Senior Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Evercore ISI

Okay. Thanks. I guess just lastly, on the Waterfront leasing, obviously it's leasing has been slow and I'm just curious, you know, what in your mind needs to happen to get some meaningful traction just on the leasing front there?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Well, I think if you look at whether you look at last year or the first quarter or even, you know, the second quarter, we've certainly outperformed in terms of the percentage of overall leasing volume that we've attracted to Harborside. In the first quarter, the MUFG lease was a significant portion of what was a very good quarter in the market around 500,000 sq ft. Then this quarter, the 24,200 sq ft that we signed was halfway and slightly over 50% of the total leasing volume transacted in the market.

The challenge is that it is a unpredictable and lumpy market as far as leasing flow is concerned, and so it's really about positioning yourself to be able to capture those leases as and when opportunities arise in the way that we did in the first quarter and now in the second quarter. You really need that leasing volume to pick up and then you know be well positioned to capture that.

Steve Sakwa
Senior Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Evercore ISI

Yeah. Okay. Thanks for the color.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Thank you, Steve Sakwa.

Operator

Our next question comes from Nicholas Joseph with Citi. Please go ahead.

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you. It's Michael Bilerman here with Nick. Mahbod, I guess, good afternoon there, or unless you're here, good morning here.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Good morning.

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

Yeah. I had a question just, you know, your opening comments, you sort of painted the picture of the macro in terms of where people's concerns are over inflation, recession, rising interest rates. It sounded like you painted a, you know, relatively optimistic tone for Veris's, uh, portfolio, really focusing on the multifamily in terms of its age, its rent levels relative to Manhattan, the fact that you can lease it annually. And I guess, how do you contrast that relative to the corporation being, you know, still, you know, Amanda talked about how high, uh, the leverage is, a quarter of the debt's floating rate, you know, the office portfolio, you know, you had negative net absorption again, and it's 30% vacant, and you talked about the challenges on the transaction side.

The development, as a percentage of the total is very high for Veris relative to other REITs. You still have the Rockpoint interest in terms of complexity. I'm just trying to contrast where it seems that there's still a lot of things, and I'm not undermining all the efforts that you've been able to do in this transition, but in the event of a recession, you know, there are a number of risks with the company, and I'm wondering if you can sort of address some of that because, you know, it just seems that there could be a little bit more difficulty, in terms of raising capital and being able to finally to execute on the full transition.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Right. There's quite a lot there, Michael, so I'm gonna try my best to dissect it. I'm gonna go back to, you know, we are very well positioned to continue either capturing upside, as I said, in the inflation environment or to weather any storms that may lie ahead in the form of a recession. If you look at where we were a year ago with the corporate unsecured bonds, the recourse bonds that we had outstanding that were due to mature this year and next, you know, that would have been a challenge to try to refinance those at this point. Those are now gone. We've sold well over $1 billion of real estate during the course of the past 12-18 months, used predominantly the proceeds to repay debt, deleverage, focus the company.

A year ago, we were 39% multifamily. Pro forma now we're 83% multifamily. The engine room now is multifamily, not office, and that's performing extremely well. The leverage that you mentioned, well, that's all senior secured mortgage debt that sits on the multifamily side. It doesn't give us any cause for concern on a loan-to-undepreciated asset basis. It's around 45% loan to value. I'd argue it's lower than that. Nothing that keeps us up at night. In terms of capital allocation, you mentioned the development business being disproportionately large relative to the operating. I agree with that. We've been chipping away at that and making strides to reallocate that capital and making progress in that sense despite the challenging markets. Do we still have more land than we probably ought to have?

Yeah, I think we do. As we rebalance, continue the portfolio rebalancing and reallocate that equity, to a higher and better use, then I think we'll continue to see the metrics improve. Today, there's nothing that gives us cause for concern. Our one construction project is Haus25, which is complete, and leasing at a very rapid pace and will also continue to contribute to those earnings. I stand by what I said. I think the company is very well positioned, much better than we were a year ago, and very well positioned, for anything that lies ahead. Nothing that, you know, keeps me up at night.

Nick Joseph
Managing Director, Citi

Thanks. This is Nick with Michael. Maybe just on the multifamily side, you talked about obviously the strength that you've seen and the strong net effective rents. Is there anything as you look either on current leasing or 30 or 60 days out, where you're either seeing more normal seasonality or any slowdown in demand from the leases that you're signing today?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Good morning, Nick. No, not yet. As you saw, you know, the 21% blended net rental growth in the quarter, we continued to see through July, you know, a figure that was very close to that at 20%. As it stands, the momentum's still strong and the rent levels are being sustained. Do I think that's a sustainable level longer term going forward? I do not. I think that we will see across the industry and we won't be immune from that. We'll see. We've had very strong rental growth over the last year or so, and I think we'll see that normalize at a lower level.

Nick Joseph
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Tom Catherwood with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Tom Catherwood
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, BTIG

Thanks, good morning, everybody. On Haus25, a couple of questions. First, how has your July leasing progress continued, and has that kind of stayed on the trend that you saw in 2Q? And then second, with two-thirds of the building now leased and Mahbod Nia mentioned approaching 50% occupancy, how much have rents moved versus pro forma, and does that give you kind of confidence in boosting your yield expectations on the project overall?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Good morning, Tom. Yeah, look, the velocity of leasing there has been phenomenal, particularly when you consider, and I really do wanna credit that to the team that have been carrying out that leasing project for us. Even more so given that we started pretty much out of the gate, within a week or so, setting the bar higher and higher in terms of net effective rents, pulling back concessions and pushing rents. We're in terms of relative to expectations or internal budget, double-digit figures above where we started, just over 10%, around 12% north of where we started in terms of rents. In terms of how that velocity continues today, I mean, we're still seeing great demand.

It is a unique, but I'm gonna say unique product in terms of the offering. That it has 27,000 sq ft of amenity space and everything else that comes with it, you know, state-of-the-art building. It is very sought after and we're seeing continued strong demand for the property.

Tom Catherwood
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, BTIG

Got it. Appreciate that. This is a kind of tough question given the comments you said before about the balance sheet and about the land positions and all. Given the performance of multifamily overall and Haus25 specifically, does it give you any consideration of starting an additional development? Given the strength in the market, do you think about, well, maybe sell the land to others to build into that strength? Then along with that, do changes in inclusionary zoning in Jersey City impact your land bank there?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Yeah, both actually great questions. Thanks, Tom. The first one, it has to be on the table as a potential use of capital, but it cannot be a priority given, you know, our focus on cash flow and leverage reduction that we've referred to. It would be, we believe, highly NAV accretive and ultimately earnings accretive to develop. If when you consider it would take 3-4 years to develop and stabilize an asset, and during that timeframe, the capital requirement and maybe say we could joint venture with someone and contribute the land and there is no further capital requirement, but then we're still contributing capital in the form of the land that we own and the equity that's tied up within it, and that won't yield anything for some time.

There are challenges, given where we are as a company to doing that. You know, if you develop, you're also adding more concentration risk in a market that's performing extremely well for us. Just from a prudence perspective, we should probably be thoughtful about, you know, adding more exposure. You could manage that by selling properties and developing. On the whole, I'd say it's something that makes a lot of sense, but just given where we are, probably is not a priority at this time. In terms of the IZO, yes, it certainly has an impact in general, on the market and anything that has not yet received site plan approval. As far as our portfolio is concerned, there are one or two sites that would be impacted.

To put it into context, Harborside 8 and I believe Harborside 4 would not be impacted. In terms of value of remaining land bank in this area, I think we're in a good position and the majority is not impacted by the IZO.

Tom Catherwood
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, BTIG

Got it. Appreciate that. Last one for me. I think last quarter you mentioned, as far as the expectations on the closing of 101 Hudson, it had been, you know, sometime in the third quarter. What have your conversations been with the buyer? Do you have updated expectations? Is there a real risk that this deal doesn't get to the finish line?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Yeah, very valid question, and clearly that's taken longer to get over the line than we hoped or expected. My expectation today is still that we get that transaction closed and over the line, and the delays have been largely related to the funding structure that the buyer has adopted, including taking over the securitization that was in place as opposed to repaying it and refinancing that. There have been some procedural things along the way that just take a little bit of time and we're largely over those, and my expectation is that we close. Having said that, in this transaction environment, my general view on life is nothing is done until it's done, so there's always risk.

Tom Catherwood
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, BTIG

That makes total sense. We'll keep a lookout for it. That's it for me. Thanks, everyone.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Pawlowski with Green Street Advisors. Please go ahead.

John Pawlowski
Managing Director, Green Street

Thanks very much for the time. I appreciate the color on property taxes over the coming quarters. Just hoping you can give us a sense for total same store expenses for the multifamily portfolio in the second half of this year.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

We're not in a position to give any guidance on that. To be honest, I would say we've done a very good job, better job than most in terms of controlling our controllable expenses over the course of the last year and keeping them contained. You saw up by around 2.6% year-over-year. We'll continue to do that in the second half. What is out of our control, the non-controllable expenses, there we do expect, as Amanda said in her descriptive remarks, an increase, primarily in taxes. On the whole, we feel that we're in a good place in terms of being able to identify and manage the controllable expenses.

John Pawlowski
Managing Director, Green Street

Outside taxes, you're not expecting any unusual pressure or unusual moderation in some of the major expense line items for the balance of the year?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

No. I mean, potentially insurance is another one where we might see a bit of an increase and we've seen that, you know, happen across the industry. The substantial one that we expect would be the taxes.

John Pawlowski
Managing Director, Green Street

Okay. A question on concessions in the stabilized multifamily portfolio. Could you remind me at what point in 2021 concessions were basically over? Any comments on how the retention of customers that were given a one or two months free a year or two years ago has trended recently?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Yeah, sure. For the most part, we scaled back concessions relatively early on, towards the second or third quarter of last year. We did have one or two properties where we had had a corporate move out and then leasing that up at pace, we did offer concessions later into the year. Those are still in the numbers and will burn off through the remainder of this year. Today on the stabilized portfolio, the concessions are at an absolute minimal level, and we're seeing occupancy rates that also retention rates that have trended up from mid-40s% to high 50s% now.

John Pawlowski
Managing Director, Green Street

Okay, great. Well, a last one for me. Amanda, you mentioned debt to EBITDA is gonna fluctuate. Could you give me a rough sense on where you expect debt to EBITDA to land by the end of the year?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

No, it's very difficult to, I'm sure you'd appreciate, that just given the various moving pieces in the company, you know, we are a company that's in transformation. I did say, and I know this is challenging for you and the others out there that are looking to model this, but even just the timing of some of these movements can materially impact that number. I did say at the beginning of the year, I think this year you should really measure us based on progress. The numbers are going to fluctuate. You know, one quarter be above expectations, another quarter potentially below. Difficult to give you that guidance at this point, I'm afraid.

John Pawlowski
Managing Director, Green Street

Okay, no problem. Take care.

Operator

Our next question comes from Nicholas Joseph with Citi. Please go ahead.

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

Mahbod, it's Bilerman again. Just had a question, as you think about strategic alternatives and, you know, we can go back to right before the pre-pandemic in 2020. The company obviously was engaged with BofA, where you had a highly reputable potential bidder, which you referred to as Party A. Obviously the special committee and the management and BofA was all involved. Given what was coming down the pipe with COVID, you know, even though they expressed an interest in a potential strategic share transaction with the company, given the state of the market, an offer wouldn't have been feasible at that time. That party in your proxy had indicated as the markets had stabilized, they would revisit the possibility of making a proposal to acquire the company.

You guys encouraged them to do so. Can you just give us an update on where your relationship stands with this highly reputable potential bidder, Party A, and whether that has the potential of coming back, or is it just done at this point?

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

I think, Michael, you're referring to events that occurred prior to my joining the board in the summer of 2020 with the rest of the board that are in place today. You're gonna have to tell me who Party A is, I'm afraid. I'm not sure. What I would tell you is the board-

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

I believe. Sorry, Mahbod. I mean, I'm pretty sure-

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

No, that's. Okay, Michael. Well, you may, but you asked me a question and if you'll do the courtesy of letting me answer it.

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

Okay.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Since we've joined, myself and the rest of the board members joined the board, and there is a strategic review committee that's also in place. I can tell you that everyone is highly focused and understands their fiduciary obligation to create and maximize value for shareholders, and has and will evaluate any opportunity to do that. We as a management team, our job is to create value for shareholders at the entity level, and that's primarily through the operations, and I believe we've done that. I think the company is in a more secure place vis-à-vis our balance sheet relative to where it was last year.

I think the operations, you know, we're seeing three quarters now, sector-leading same store NOI and rental growth in the operations on the multifamily side, which now constitute 83% of the business, primarily in multifamily business. It's pivoted in a year, eighteen months, reflect that. That's what we'll continue focusing on and anything that the board and the SRC evaluates on a strategic level is independent of that and not mutually exclusive in our efforts.

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

Right. You're a member of the board as well now, and I'm just trying to close the loop on this, which had been obviously an important thing for when this new board.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Michael.

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

Yeah.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

To the extent I don't know who that party is, and I'm not gonna comment on that because it was before my time. To the extent that there are any strategic proposals relevant to the company and those are presented to the board of the SRC, they will be evaluated and considered. That is it.

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

Okay.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Nothing more.

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

Just on the residential, yeah. On the residential NOI growth, I think part of the excess is obviously back in 2020, the portfolio, you know, had a much more severe decline relative to, you know, national and coastal and Sunbelt portfolios. The more recent growth in 2021 and 2022 is partially reflective of that. Obviously your portfolio is quite unique in terms of its geographic concentration and location. Just, I think having some of the history on that slide going back pre-pandemic levels, and I recognize the whole portfolio is not there, but it's a little bit comparing apples and oranges.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Well, I think it's not. I think it's just looking at how we've performed over the course of the last year and looking at the same way that our peers are looking at it. Thank you for your comments.

Michael Bilerman
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mahbod Nia for any closing remarks. Please go ahead, sir.

Mahbod Nia
CEO, Veris Residential

Thank you everyone for joining us today. It's been another terrific quarter. I'd really like to thank the team for their tremendous efforts, in working with us to generate these results, and we look forward to updating you all in coming quarters.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thanks for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect, sir.

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