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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Nov 14, 2022

Operator

Welcome to the Where Food Comes From Q3 2022 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Jay Pfeiffer, Investor Relations for Where Food Comes From. Thank you again.

Jay Pfeiffer
IR Manager, Where Food Comes From

Good morning, and welcome to the Where Food Comes From 2022 Q3 earnings call. Joining me on the call today are CEO John Saunders and Chief Financial Officer Dannette Henning. During this call, we'll make forward-looking statements based on current expectations, estimates, and projections that are subject to risk. Statements about current and future financial performance, growth strategy, customers, business opportunities, market acceptance of our products and services, and potential opportunities, acquisitions are forward-looking statements. Listeners should not place undue reliance on these statements as there are many factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements. We encourage you to review our publicly filed documents as well as our news releases and website for more information. Today, we'll also discuss adjusted EBITDA, a non-GAAP financial measure provided as a complement to GAAP results.

Please refer to today's news release for important disclosures regarding non-GAAP measures. I'll now turn the call over to John Saunders.

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Well, good morning, and thanks for joining the call today. This morning, we announced results for our Q3 ended September 30, 2022, and are pleased to say we delivered another quarter of profitable growth. Revenue in the Q3 increased 11% year-over-year to $7.3 million from $6.5 million. The increase included a typically solid performance by our verification and certification business and a nice rebound in product sales. Specifically, verification and certification services grew by 10% to $5.2 million from $4.7 million in the Q3 last year. Product revenue in the form of tag sales increased 15% year-over-year to $1.6 million from $1.4 million as drought conditions in the U.S. that negatively impacted tag sales in the second quarter began to abate.

Software and related consulting revenue was up slightly at $508 thousand from $461 thousand. Selling, general, and administrative expense increased to $2.1 million from $1.8 million year-over-year, primarily reflecting higher personnel costs and what continues to be a very competitive labor market. Net income decreased 9% year-over-year to $785 thousand or $0.13 per basic and diluted share from $867 thousand or $0.14 per basic and diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA in the Q3 was down 13% year-over-year to $1.3 million from $1.5 million. Turning to nine-month results, total revenue increased 16% to $18.8 million from $16.1 million in the same period last year. We had solid growth in all three revenue segments.

Verification and certification services was up 11% to $12.9 million from $11.7 million. Product revenue was also up 13% to $3.5 million from $3.1 million. Software and related consulting revenue increased 69% year-over-year to $2.4 million from $1.4 million, due primarily to the execution of a large project with the Japanese government entity in Q1 this year. Selling, general, and administrative expense increased 8% year-over-year to $5.7 million from $5.3 million, with most of that increase occurring in the Q3 of this year.

Net income through the first nine months was $1.5 million or $0.25 per basic and diluted share, compared to net income of $2.2 million or $0.36 per basic and diluted share in the same period last year. Remember, the year ago nine-month period included other income in the form of $1 million in PPP loan forgiveness. On an apples to apples basis, we still delivered very good profit growth. Adjusted EBITDA through nine months increased 16% year-over-year to $2.8 million from $2.4 million. Cash generated from operations was flat year-over-year at $3 million. Our cash and cash equivalents balance for nine months increased 11% to $6 million from $5.4 million at 2021 year end.

In the Q3, the company bought back 108,733 shares of its common stock. That raised our year-to-date buyback total to 202,783 shares. Given our strong cash position and consistent cash generation, we expect to continue buying back shares in the foreseeable future. In our earnings release this morning, we referenced some interesting growth opportunities we're pursuing, and I'd like to spend a few minutes on that subject. As you may know, our verification and certification portfolio is already the largest and most diverse in the food verification space, but we are constantly looking for ways to expand on that competitive advantage. Right now, we are focused on two emerging corporate and consumer movements, one of which is ESG, which stands for environmental, social, and governance.

While we and a growing number of our customers are already deeply involved in the sustainability movement through our care program, there are additional opportunities out there as large companies are rolling out other climate and sustainability initiatives. In order to remain competitive. The federal government is now heavily involved in funding some of these programs. A pertinent example for us being the Partnerships for Climate-Smart Commodities, which has allocated $2.8 billion to fund more than 70 projects in the agricultural space. We have recently engaged with a customer on 3 initial projects that will include participation by our certification verification teams as well as our SureHarvest unit in a consulting role. I'm not really prepared to quantify these programs in terms of dollar value at this early stage, but we expect these revenue opportunities to grow over time and deliver solid profit margins.

The second opportunity we're pursuing is in aquaculture. In recent months, we've reported to you progress we've made with a couple of programs. The large consulting project promoting Japanese seafood in the United States that we completed in Q1 and the recent launch of our FishCARE initiative and approval of premier trout farmer, processor and distributor, Riverence Provisions, as our first producer for this standard. Right now, we're exploring ways to expand FishCARE internationally. We're investigating various processes and protocols for programs in Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines, where much of the seafood consumed worldwide is sourced. We're also exploring our options for bringing on sales and auditing personnel. As with most of our business lines, it takes time, sometimes years, to build programs and consistent revenue streams, and aquaculture is no different.

In fact, in some ways it is more difficult to develop and deploy solutions than in other food categories because, among other things, so much of the world's seafood is sourced in Asia and South America. Because the supply chain is so fragmented and diverse, and also because seafood farming creates unique challenges we don't face with land farming and ranching operations. Revenue related to our aquaculture programs has and will continue to be lumpy in the near term, but we think we're certainly moving in the right direction. Before I open it up to questions, I wanted to let you know that Where Food Comes From team will be traveling to New York on January fifth to ring Nasdaq's closing bell. This is a nice milestone for the company that provides a fair amount of exposure for our company and our stock.

With that, operator, I'll open the call to questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to press your handset before pressing the star key. One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Edward Riley with EF Hutton. Please proceed with your question.

Edward Reilly
Managing Director, Equity Research, EF Hutton

Hi, John. Thanks for taking my question. Wondering if the companies that are rolling out the ESG and climate and sustainability initiatives, does the opportunity set lie in these companies already being customers of Where Food Comes From? Or are you looking to capture additional customers through these initiatives?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Excellent question, Eddie. It's both. A significant number of our current customers are, I think, continually being asked questions about their supply chains and the sustainability of those supply chains. It puts us in a very good position as we have visibility through those supply chains to begin to answer some of those questions and to be able to provide verifiable data, especially if they're public companies and they're under the same pressure that we find ourselves under as a public company. Really the genesis for everything was about two years ago when we had our first interaction with an ESG brokerage firm that wanted us to answer some of those questions.

I think it brought on an awareness for us that this was something that was much bigger than us as a small public company, that a lot of these companies were probably gonna be looking for the same type of clarity and verification capabilities. Do we think there's other customers out there? Of course, I think there's a lot of potential customers for us. The other thing is it diversifies our contact within those companies. We typically work within procurement and quality control, but as this is primarily a financial and something that the CFO typically would be involved with on behalf of these companies, it's a new opportunity for us to connect with these companies and I think to become more sticky.

Edward Reilly
Managing Director, Equity Research, EF Hutton

Okay, great. Thanks. And then on the SG&A costs and higher personnel costs, is this solely reflecting an increase in wages or are you doing additional hiring? If so, wondering in what areas you're hiring for?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

The two areas that I just mentioned are the big ones, ESG and aquaculture. Yes, we have to pay more to get good talent right now than we did, than we have in the past. While we continue to compensate, I think we're very supportive and we like to keep rewarding the success of our employees. The job market today, we may get 6 resumes, make an offer, and it's very difficult to get those people across the finish line. In many cases, they're countering, Ed, and they want more money. It doesn't seem like anybody wants to work in an office anymore, so everybody wants to be off-site. That's something that's, I think, we're gonna have to deal with.

Just that diversification of our work base is increasing our costs because we basically have these remote offices everywhere. I think it's just the nature of what's going on. To get the talent right now, we have to be more aggressive.

Edward Reilly
Managing Director, Equity Research, EF Hutton

Okay, thanks. I'm wondering about how you guys have navigated the current inflationary environment, just with regard to the pricing of the services and products that you guys offer.

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Another great question. We just had a long meeting as a company dealing with the cost of just fuel because our auditors, our employees have to travel to these locations. We try to group those audits, and we try to reduce costs as much as possible, but airfare is up 25-30%. We all know the cost of fuel has gone up, so we've had to have those conversations with customers. It is very difficult, I will tell you. Just across the board, as you know, we're probably at least 25%-50% increased input costs, which again is getting our people to the location is the number one thing that we have to consider there.

The cost of fuel to get there, the cost of cars, hotel rooms, airlines, all that stuff is, it just keeps going up.

Edward Reilly
Managing Director, Equity Research, EF Hutton

Okay, thanks. That's it for me.

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Thanks, Edward.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, it is star one to join the question queue. Our next question comes from the line of Raffi D'Ath with B. Riley Advisors. Please proceed with your question.

Raffi D'Ath
Analyst, B. Riley Advisors

Hey, John. I'm sorry. You know, in terms of legislation, anything out there that you think would have a meaningful impact on either the verification or your tech business or both?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Good question. I would say yes. I think there are things that are going on. I wouldn't necessarily call the grants that the USDA just announced, the $2.8 million necessarily as being regulatory, although I do think one of the big objectives of this grant is to establish parameters around GHG, carbon credit, really having a mechanism to quantify what sequestration and what carbon, what the impact of carbon on the climate truly is and how agriculture is affecting that.

I think that as a result of these grants, there will be new regulations that come down to say what it means to be carbon neutral or carbon-free or climate smart, which, as the name of the grants indicates, that all of this is about being smarter related to the climate, and how that's gonna be quantified. I think this probably isn't really regulatory as well, but I also international trade barriers related to the use of different types of technology or the lack thereof, so we're involved with some fairly long-term negotiations with countries like Taiwan, which also you can imagine has geopolitical implications, but just the use of technology in the United States. There's all kinds of different factors that are going on.

I wouldn't necessarily call them regulatory, but they definitely will lay out a lot of the technical side of what we'll be doing for the next 5 to 10 years.

Raffi D'Ath
Analyst, B. Riley Advisors

Got it. Today, in terms of your, you know, 10% or 11% growth, I mean, how much of that would you say is driven by landing new customers versus, you know, selling, you know, kind of incremental products or solutions to existing customers?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Each year, Raffi, we try to target what we call company-wide major customers for us that would bundle across divisions. If we're successful in identifying 1-2, potentially 3 new customers a year, that would kind of fit into that bucket, and I'll give Riverence last year as one of our critical new customers. At the end of the day, you know, we're probably looking at a $50,000-$100,000 dollar opportunity across those customers. It continues to give us new opportunities to look at ways to work with larger companies.

I think that the critical thing, I mentioned this about aquaculture, is our sales pipeline, from some cases, 3-5 years long. When we initially meet a company, they go through their typical business situations that they have and eventually come back and say, "You know, verification is something that's important to us now. Maybe we have a customer that wants us to do it, or we have some new opportunity that we're seeing." That could be 3 years in the making. Really just a few new customers that kind of bring everything. Then number one focus for us, Raffi, is customer retention.

Once we get a customer, we do not like to lose that customer, so we spend a lot of time working internally with them to make sure that we're whatever the verification we did for them the year prior, we're gonna continue to do that, but we're also gonna look to bundle new services and maybe create new value where there wasn't that value before. All of our customer relationships, I think it's probably maybe interesting for everybody here, but they all work on an annual basis, meaning that we do an annual verification. We pick a point in time, and then once that annual verification is done, we come back, and we re-reevaluate with that customer to see what the next year is gonna hold.

Raffi D'Ath
Analyst, B. Riley Advisors

Got it. I guess along those lines, you know, I think we've talked about on previous calls how, you know, some of these verifications can really kind of impact or maybe drive an uplift with the, with the end consumer. You know, you and I, when we go shopping or restaurants or we go to a grocery store. I guess any updates there in terms of any studies you may have done or the industry has done or I know you've also experimented with your own kind of verifications. Anything new on that front?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Well, I think one thing probably to highlight this is our relationship with Heinen's that we don't talk quite a bit about, but as I'm sure you've remembered over the years, has been one of our real critical kind of cornerstone customers because they verify across all of their proteins. As I mentioned, Riverence was our first FishCARE customer. They are also a supplier to Heinen's. I think connecting the dots with your question and really how do we take the verification that we start on the ground around aquaculture to the consumer, we do it through these existing retail relationships. The relationship we've had with Heinen's is 15 years plus that we've been doing that, so they continue to be a very happy customer.

They're very small relative to a lot of the other retailers that we're working with and talking to. They have 26 stores, I think. Most of the other retailers that we talk to are in the at least several hundreds that they have across the country. It's a much different ball field that we're playing on with Heinen's, but it continues to be how we break the ice with consumers and understand what they're looking for. Every day, Raffi, we're having these conversations with all the retailers that I've talked about in the past. I'm sure the ones that you go to and everybody goes to every day.

It's purely a chicken or the egg, and when we get to the point where consumers are demanding that they have this or a strong majority of those consumers as opposed to a vocal minority that we're very happy to have and we appreciate, but it's kind of the same thinking that as we continue to look at sustainability. Consumers want trust that there's not greenwashing going on. Again, that gives us an opportunity to really demonstrate the value of verification and to give consumers the confidence that this isn't something that's just fly by night or just a marketing ploy. It's something that's a core value of the business to talk more about the sourcing of their products and their supply chains.

Raffi D'Ath
Analyst, B. Riley Advisors

Got it. Just one last one for me. I guess from a kind of an industry penetration standpoint, you know, how well penetrated would you say kind of the beef industry is at this point in terms of verification, you know, kind of and/or, you know, other sources sell, and how would you contrast that with maybe some of the other opportunities you're looking at, you know, let's say aquaculture?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Well, by far the largest penetration that we have is across the beef industry. There's 25 million animals that are marketed and harvested every year in the United States, and last year we verified about 2.5 million of them. In my mind, we're pegged at about 10% of the current U.S. beef industry. I kind of equate it when I walk into the grocery store, Raffi, and you look at the meat case, and it doesn't matter what retailer you're talking about.

When you go in there's about 80%-85%, maybe 90% of their product that's what I would call commodity, and there's not a lot of drill-down information that you can get by just looking at the label or understanding you know, if it's grass-fed or humanely cared for or any of the other claims that could be made. Whereas about 10% of the meat case is just that. There's more information. It's verified product. There's a price differentiation to it. I think in the beef industry, it's 10%.

I think in other industries, there's probably similar numbers, and I think it's purely just because of the way that the United States has evolved from a consumer perspective, meaning that there's so many choices, there's so many options for different food products that consumers can get when they walk into the store. It really comes down to are they willing to pay more for it? I would say about 10% of them right now are in that category.

Raffi D'Ath
Analyst, B. Riley Advisors

Got it. Thank you. Thanks, Raffi. Good questions.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Brown, Private Investor. Please proceed with your question.

Chris Brown
Shareholder, Private Investor

Hi. Thanks for taking my call today. Over the last three years, you guys have done a really nice job managing through COVID. As you kinda look forward three years, and some of the questions, some people just touched on it, but kinda how do you think about your kind of natural organic growth rate versus some of the new opportunities you discussed on the call, if you kinda look over the next three years as opposed to kinda going backwards?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Yeah. Thanks for the question, Chris. Glad you're on the call. I think I've talked about my two daughters in the past. I have one that's a sophomore in college, and my second is a senior in high school. They have their own shopping routine that's very different from mine at this point. We have a lot of unique products in the fridge, like oat milk. The way I'll answer the question is I don't necessarily know exactly what's happening or what the transformation is, but I can tell you for a fact that there is a movement towards a better understanding and a better transparency of our food and where it comes from.

I think the sustainability question that again I talked about earlier in ESG and understanding all of the dynamics that go into a supply chain related to obviously the nutrition and the taste of the food, but also how it was produced, where it came from, how long it took to get here, were the people involved in the production of this food sufficiently compensated for their efforts. All of those questions lead to another layer of information that there's a certain group of people and it's a very diverse group of people. I have

My mother is asking certain similar questions because some health issues that she's going through, where she's trying to figure out how to get clean labels and understand more about where her food is coming from. When I look at it, Chris, I think where I wanna be is ready to satisfy that demand. When people are ready to pay more for products, that we're in a position that we can do it. Do I think we'll stay on the same trajectory that we've been on? Probably. I think there's certain things that have happened, COVID being the largest, to really drive that in another way. I don't know that it's gonna cause a sea change and that everybody's gonna start saying that they're gonna pay twice as much for organic food.

Chris Brown
Shareholder, Private Investor

Right. That's fair. I appreciate that. Then the second question was, on your repurchase program. It seems like you guys are kinda comfortable with your kinda cash flows, et cetera. Is that a strategic repurchase or is it a consistent repurchase? Can you give just a little color on how that program works?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Yeah. The number one use of capital that we've had from day one is aggregate acquisitions and M&A type activities. As I'm sure you know and everybody else on the call would know, that's a high priority for us as we move forward. The dilemma is we don't always have those opportunities and that sometimes it takes longer. What's the next best use of cash for us? We're always looking for strategic opportunities, partnerships, any way that we can expand there if there's marketing opportunities. And then right behind that is buyback, continuing to use that cash there. It's not necessarily that it's the number one strategic because acquisition is our number one strategic at this point.

It's just when and if we don't have those opportunities, what do we do next?

Chris Brown
Shareholder, Private Investor

Fair enough. Thanks again.

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Tate with Private Investor. Please proceed with your question.

John Tate
Private Investor, Private Investor

Hey, guys. How are you? Can you hear me?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Yep. Hey, John.

John Tate
Private Investor, Private Investor

Hey. Hey, congrats. Another quarter chugging along, doing what you do. I appreciate a responsible steward of capital. Question for you today is, can you speak at all to how competitive the market is for verification in the ESG and sustainability space where you're competing for that USDA grant money?

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

We honestly can't tell you of another ESG company that's trying to do what we're doing right now. Well, that's not true. The one that I do know that's doing it is BDO. You know, I can't even think of the term, but they're doing it in other industries. I think on the food side, John, I don't know that we have anybody that's really competing with us, and I think it's partially because nobody else has the experience that we do, and it's just kind of hit the market. We honestly just kind of it hit us over the head a little bit. We were like, "Man, this.

There may be an opportunity here for us to really, to expand into a new area. I think the other thing that we're thinking is that we understand that we're not gonna be like a major accounting firm. That's not our objective. Our objective is to provide strong credential verification. If you're just a company like Walmart and you're having to report on ESG and within your supply chains, we may only be able to give a snapshot and a portion of that view. There's no way to fully quantify all the things that go into this. We think we're gonna be a part of the process here for the first couple years, really developing that out. Aquaculture is very different. It's a mature market.

I will say that most of the auditing and verification related to those industries today are done on NGOs, large, larger groups, which are more a rating type thing that says that, like, lobsters harvested in Maine are, you know, not sustainable or bluefin tuna or something related to that. It's not really what we call place-based verification, which is more specific to what we do in aquaculture. So there are companies that are doing aquaculture verification. It's a little bit different, the type of verification, so we see ourselves kind of in a unique spot there too. And one thing that I talked about a lot is that most of the seafood that's produced is.

It's not produced in the United States, so we think we've got an opportunity there with the seafood that is produced in the United States, and obviously trout is one of those. We see some Gulf shrimp also, catfish, tilapia. There's a lot of seafood that's produced here that we think we have a very good some good runway there. Hopefully that gives you a little color. On the ESG side, I don't think there's anybody really doing it.

John Tate
Private Investor, Private Investor

Got it. Thanks for the answer.

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Yeah.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Saunders for any final comments.

John Saunders
CEO and Chairman of the Board, Where Food Comes From

Thanks everybody for joining the call today. Great questions. Appreciate all the thoughts, and we'll talk to you in a few months.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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