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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Jul 28, 2022

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the World Fuel Services second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. My name is Michelle and I will be coordinating the call this evening. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Instructions on how to ask a question will be given at the beginning of the Q&A session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Glenn Klevitz, World Fuel's Vice President, Treasurer, and Investor Relations. Mr. Klevitz, you may begin your conference.

Glenn Klevitz
VP, Treasurer, and Investor Relations, World Fuel Services

Thank you, Michelle. Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the World Fuel Services second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. This is Glenn Klevitz, and I'll be doing the introductions on this evening's call alongside our live slide presentation. This call is also available via webcast. To access this webcast or future webcasts, please visit the World Fuel Services website and click on the webcast icon. With us on the call today are Michael Kasbar, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Ira Birns, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. By now you should have all received a copy of our earnings release. If not, you can access the release on our website. Before we get started, I would like to review World Fuel's safe harbor statement.

Certain statements made today, including comments about World Fuel's expectations regarding future plans and performance, are forward-looking statements that are subject to a range of uncertainties and risks that could cause World Fuel's actual results to materially differ from the forward-looking information. A description of the risk factors that could cause results to materially differ from these projections can be found in World Fuel's most recent Form 10-K and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. World Fuel assumes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revisions to those forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. This presentation also includes certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined in Regulation G. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included in World Fuel's press release and can be found on its website.

We'll begin with several minutes of prepared remarks, which will then be followed by a question-and-answer period. As with prior conference calls, we ask that members of the media and individual private investors on the line participate in listen-only mode. At this time, I would like to introduce our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Kasbar.

Michael Kasbar
Chairman and CEO, World Fuel Services

Thank you, Glenn. Once again, the resilience of our business portfolio and the agility of our people drove a strong outcome in the second quarter. As we mentioned last quarter, super backwardation impacted commercial aviation, which continued throughout the second quarter. We pivoted quickly, as we indicated we would, materially reducing this risk going forward, and our business aviation activity generally performed well. Conversely, high prices and continued volatility were extremely favorable for our marine business, where we achieved record results. Our marine team did an extraordinary job of servicing our clients and managing the business. Finally, our land business performed well across the board with Flyers Energy, U.K., Brazil, and our World Kinect business all delivering solid results.

As I've said many times, we see the energy transition as a global imperative and are focused on continuing to expand our suite of energy and digital solutions to continue to deliver critical support to our customers, suppliers, and stakeholders in meeting net zero objectives. There has been a significant increase in demand for renewable energy, and in response, we continue to build out our platform in key areas such as renewable fuels as well as wind and solar energy solutions. We have been at the forefront of sustainable aviation fuel for many years, delivering about 30 million gallons to date. During the second quarter, we became an authorized branded distributor of Neste's sustainable aviation fuel, commonly referred to as SAF. With this relationship, we were able to bring SAF to Paris-Le Bourget Airport in France last month.

We also recently partnered with wpd Europe, a developer and operator of wind farms and solar parks in 28 countries, on a wind project in Finland, where we will manage the wind farm's power output. These are only a few of the many examples of how we are participating in the energy transition and transforming our offering with innovative energy and digital solutions. Whether our customers need help developing a carbon reduction plan, devising strategies to reduce energy use, or sourcing renewable energy, our broad offering of sustainable solutions are available to support these critical initiatives. We're proud of our team at World Kinect and are excited about the growth opportunities this offers across all of our businesses in the future.

While the macro environment is fraught with a confluence of market and geopolitical risks and a more active regulatory dynamic, I believe we are placed better than ever to profitably grow our global energy and logistics business in core conventional activities and build greater value, growth, and return in sustainable businesses and offerings, including those I just mentioned. Our focus has always been, and will continue to be, delivering a complementary set of products and services that delivers value for our customers, suppliers, and partners with an increasing number of digital solutions. I am enormously proud of our global team and the grit that they have shown over the last few years and continue to demonstrate as we further fortify our global diverse energy solutions offerings. We are encouraged and animated by the continuing opportunities and runway we see for our business.

Before I turn over the call to Ira for a financial review of the quarter, I want to give a very special thanks to Jeff Smith and our digital and business teams for their tremendous effort and teamwork in shutting down our last of 22 data centers, which will make us a cloud-first business. This will increase our resiliency and give us virtually unlimited scalability. Ira, why don't you take it from here?

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

Thank you, Mike, and happy birthday. Before I review our second quarter results, please note that the following figures exclude the impact of non-operational items highlighted in our earnings release. These items principally include acquisition-related expenses and integration costs related to the Flyers Energy acquisition, which in aggregate were $1.4 million after tax in the second quarter. You can find the breakdown of the non-operational items on our website and on the last slide of today's webcast presentation. I'm not sure I could think of a quarter historically which better demonstrated the resiliency of our business and the value of the diversity of our business model than this past quarter.

Simply put, we delivered solid results even though our aviation business continued to be significantly impacted by severe market pricing backwardation throughout most of the second quarter, given the principally contract-oriented nature of our aviation business. However, these volatile market pricing dynamics drove our spot-oriented marine business to record results. Our land segment, which on the back of the recent Flyers Energy acquisition, has become a larger and more ratable piece of our broader business, delivered very strong results as well. Now let's continue with the financial highlights. Sustained high fuel prices and increasing volume drove consolidated revenue to a record $17.1 billion in the second quarter, up more than 140% year-over-year. Year to date, putting us just under the $31 billion in revenue that we posted for the full year in 2021.

Volume again grew year-over-year across all our business segments, with commercial aviation passenger volumes recovering to approximately 85% of pre-pandemic levels. Adjusted second quarter net income and earnings per share were $26 million and $0.41 per share, respectively. Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was $76 million, an increase of 31% compared to the second quarter of 2021, again, despite the significant negative backwardation-related impact to aviation results this past quarter. With regard to segment volumes, our aviation segment volume was 1.8 billion gallons in the second quarter, an increase of 33% compared to the second quarter of 2021. The year-over-year volume increase resulted principally from the ongoing recovery in commercial passenger activity.

Volume in our marine segment for the second quarter was 4.9 million metric tons, an increase of 6% year-over-year. As evidenced in the past, and then again during this past quarter, during times of elevated fuel prices, constrained credit, and rising interest rates, we become a more critically valued counterparty, which increases our success rate and contributes to profitable volume growth. Our land segment volume was 1.5 billion gallons or gallon equivalents during the second quarter. That's an increase of 19% year-over-year. The year-over-year volume increase was principally driven by volume associated with the Flyers Energy acquisition. Consolidated gross profit for the second quarter was $253 million. That's up 37% year-over-year and represents the highest level of quarterly gross profit since the first quarter of 2020.

In terms of aviation gross profit, the fundamentals of our aviation business remain strong, with commercial passenger aviation continuing to recover from the pandemic and business and general aviation and cargo activities all posting solid results versus last year. However, the segment's second quarter gross profit declined to $53 million, which is down 40% year-over-year, driven principally by the impact of severe market pricing backwardation and, to a lesser extent, the exit from Afghanistan last year. As a reminder, we began experiencing the impact of severe pricing backwardation in the latter half of the first quarter. Again, this is when future forward prices began trading significantly below spot oil prices. During the second quarter, backwardation became increasingly severe and continued through much of the quarter. Our team has now successfully renegotiated sufficient customer contracts to minimize related risk going forward.

While still backwardated, market conditions we experienced in the second quarter have now reverted much closer to historical norms. As we look ahead to the seasonally strong third quarter, and with the backwardation issue generally behind us, we expect aviation gross profit to rebound significantly with results expected to be up year-over-year despite the discontinuation of the Afghanistan business last year. The marine segment performed extraordinarily well. Benefiting from record high bunker fuel prices and increased level of price volatility, as well as a credit-constrained marketplace. This resulted in quarterly gross profit of $78 million, an increase of 244% year-over-year, and the highest level of marine quarterly gross profit in the history of the company. Kudos to the Global Marine team for such absolutely fantastic performance with solid results across all sectors and geographies.

For the third quarter, we expect marine results to again materially exceed the prior year. However, with bunker fuel prices somewhat lower quarter to date, it is unlikely that the third quarter will be as strong as the second quarter. Our land segment delivered gross profit of $122 million in the second quarter. That's up 66% year-over-year, principally as a result of the recent Flyers Energy acquisition, which continues to outperform our expectations. Additional highlights included strength in our U.K. operation, which delivered strong results in what is traditionally a seasonally low quarter for them, and year-over-year growth in our commercial and industrial and retail activities. Our World Kinect business also continues to perform well with a growing suite of products and services to support our customers' decarbonization efforts.

With a robust pipeline of related investment opportunities, there are clearly more growth opportunities ahead in this space. Land gross profit should be up materially year- over- year in the third quarter, driven by the impact of Flyers, but also continued growth in our broader land business, but should experience a sequential seasonal decline, principally driven by our U.K. operations. Core operating expenses were $197 million in the second quarter. That's up 5% sequentially, principally driven by higher operating expenses associated with increased business activity during the second quarter. We expect core operating expenses to be in the range of $198 million-$204 million in the third quarter. Bad debt expense in the second quarter was $2.6 million.

We continue to manage our accounts receivable exceptionally well as volume growth and higher fuel prices have increased the size of our overall receivables portfolio to a record level. Adjusted EBITDA was $76 million in the second quarter, representing an increase of 31% year-over-year. Despite the aviation backwardation impact, this was our best quarterly performance since the pandemic began. Our interest expense was $25.9 million in the second quarter, significantly higher than recent run rates, principally related to rapidly rising interest rates, as well as increased borrowings under our credit facility and increased activity under our trade finance facility, both associated with growing volumes and high fuel prices throughout the quarter. Based upon the current interest rate environment and funding requirements, we expect our level of interest expense to be in the range of $24 million-$27 million in the third quarter.

Significant foreign exchange volatility during the second quarter also resulted in a few million dollar of foreign exchange losses during the quarter. Moving on to tax. Over time, we have been required to establish tax valuation allowances in jurisdictions where cumulative losses precluded our ability to utilize certain deferred tax assets. This was exacerbated by the pandemic. Coming out of the pandemic, as profitability has been increasing in many of the countries where such allowances were necessary, it should enable us to reverse these allowances over time. In the second quarter, one such reversal drove our quarterly tax rate down significantly and was the principal contributing factor leading to a negative effective tax rate for the quarter.

For the third quarter, our effective tax rate should return to a more normalized mid-20s level, and for the full year, inclusive of any allowance reversals, we expect our effective tax rate to be in the range of 17%-20%, which is down from 26% in 2021. Despite a 14% sequential increase in average fuel prices and higher volumes during the quarter, we generated operating cash flow of $43 million. As a result of our efforts to expand the size of our banking facility while also increasing the capacity of our trade finance facilities, our liquidity position remains strong, supporting our growth initiatives for the second half of the year and beyond. We repurchased just over 1.5 million shares of our common stock during the second quarter, increasing year-to-date repurchases to more than 2 million shares.

We have now repurchased nearly 15 million shares over the past 10 years, demonstrating our continued commitment to drive additional shareholder value through both buybacks and dividends. In summary, despite the backwardation-related challenges in aviation, we delivered solid results in the second quarter. Core aviation activity continues to rebound from the pandemic. Our marine business delivered absolutely fantastic results, and our land business, including Flyers Energy, also had a very strong quarter. In addition to our core fuel, natural gas, and power business activities, with expanding renewables offerings and a growing suite of additional carbon reduction solutions offered by World Kinect, we are very excited about the future.

All of our customers around the world are at some stage of their decarbonization journey, and our product and service offerings in support of their sustainability efforts should provide growing opportunities for us going forward. We also continue to maintain a strong balance sheet with a solid liquidity profile, providing sufficient capital to support organic growth and value-creating investments while also returning capital to our shareholders, again through share repurchases as well as dividends. With that, I'd like to turn the call back over to our operator, Michelle, to start the Q&A session. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. To ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Ken Hoexter with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Ken Hoexter
Airfreight and Shipping Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thanks. Good evening, Michael and Ira, and Glenn. Maybe just kind of go over the aviation backwardation. Is this because of your inventory levels that you had to go back and address the contracts? Ira, you mentioned you've gone back to the customers and reshaped the contracts. Maybe you could walk us through that process and where that, you know, is that done? You mentioned not seeing the backwardation. Maybe just walk us through the basics there.

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

Well, because of the structure of our supply contracts and our customer contracts, the highly unusual unprecedented backwardation issue resulted in losses for us as we rolled, you know, inventory futures every month. What we were able to do, coming out of the second quarter going into the third quarter, is reshape. The good thing for us is a very large percentage of those contracts actually roll over on the first of July. We're able to renegotiate enough contracts to pretty much eliminate the need for us to continue rolling those contracts. We wind up with a more balanced position, if you will.

Therefore, despite the fact that the backwardation issue has resolved itself to a great deal because we went from being $0.30, $0.40, $0.50 backwardated to about $0.05 this morning. We've pretty much mitigated that exposure, and we don't foresee that type of issue going forward because again we no longer have the need to roll contracts forward, whether it be in a backwardated market or a more normal, you know, with a long-term contango market where the curve is trending upwards.

Ken Hoexter
Airfreight and Shipping Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Switching over to marine. I mean, a huge gross profit per gallon. You know, when I think about you mentioned record levels, looking at kind of a $15 gross profit per metric ton, $15, $16. How should we think about that going forward? Is that something that, you know, we're done with the $7 level, given where fuel is, it will stay in the teens at double digits, or how should we think about that?

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

Well, for a good part of the second quarter, Ken, you know, in this crazy pricing environment, bunker fuel was on average $1,000 a ton. You know, you may remember when we had the IMO regulations kick in, and people converting over to the more carbon friendly fuel, you know, that was trading somewhere under $500 a ton, somewhere between $400 and $500. We've never seen a $1,000 a ton before. We've always said that because marine is principally a spot business, unlike aviation, which is heavily contract oriented. As market price moves, you could kind of reset your go-to-market strategy daily, hourly by, you know, by the minute.

There's a pretty tight correlation over the long term between the underlying price of the commodity and our margins in that business, right? Therefore, with prices at record highs, it's not surprising that our margins would have been so much stronger. To the second part of your question, it really depends on your views or market expectations of where pricing may go. Prices are still high. They're off a little bit. I would say they're down 5%-10% from the average levels in the second quarter so far in Q3. That's part one. It's tough to forecast.

You know, one of the things I mentioned in my prepared remarks is we don't expect to repeat Q2 because of the extraordinary, you know, dynamics. You know, we're still gonna have significant year-over-year growth as the market still remains tight. As you know, Glenn reminds me, part two to the story is in an environment like this where the underlying commodity is $1,000 a ton, you know, again at record levels. It makes it a bit tougher for certain players in the market to compete because you know, you need a strong balance sheet and you know, you need more capital to be able to support your own working capital requirements at these levels.

We, you know, being the big, you know, 900 lbs gorilla with a solid balance sheet, we, you know, wind up generally outperforming in those scenarios. We generally become a much more valued counterparty, because we're out there providing the amount of credit that our customers require, and they, you know, they value that more, more than they normally do in an environment where prices are so significantly high.

Ken Hoexter
Airfreight and Shipping Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Just one more. Oh, go ahead, Michael.

Michael Kasbar
Chairman and CEO, World Fuel Services

No, go for it, Ken.

Ken Hoexter
Airfreight and Shipping Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

By the way, happy birthday. Is it today?

Michael Kasbar
Chairman and CEO, World Fuel Services

It is. I couldn't think of anything better to do.

Ken Hoexter
Airfreight and Shipping Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah, you know, I get earnings season on my birthday, but this week it's this weekend, so I get till Saturday. Ira, just in this environment, you get, you know, maybe how do you think about cash, right? You ended up buying back a sizable amount of stock this quarter. You're, I presume, generating increasing amount of cash flow with these higher prices, but you also increase your accounts receivable as you extend more credit with higher prices. Maybe just walk us through your thoughts on the environment and your thoughts on flowing through to cash or maybe that's a Michael question in terms of, you know, thoughts on opportunities.

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

On the cash specific question, we used some cash in Q1 as prices started accelerating. Generally unavoidable. Our business was growing year-over-year, and prices were growing at the same time. In the second quarter, even though prices grew significantly, we were able to manage our balance sheet in a way where we still generated cash. Part of that was, you know, certainly helped by the phenomenal performance in marine. If you look forward, you know, we didn't generate a ton of cash, but, you know, we generated $43 million of operating cash flow.

If you go forward, you know, once prices are where they are, if they're not increasing further or if they're going down, it provides an opportunity to generate even more cash because you don't have to increase your working capital level even further. Thus far this quarter, prices are down a little bit. I don't know if we're gonna sustain that. We're still in a very volatile market, but we should do much better from a cash flow standpoint in the second half of the year than we did in the first half, you know, returning hopefully to kind of a more normalized quarterly level of cash flow.

With our high level of earnings, you know, that number, which should be stronger compared to, you know, where we were the last couple of years, during the pandemic when earnings were depressed. Solid cash flow in the second half unless yeah, maybe I shouldn't use the word surprise, but unless in this crazy market, you know, it takes another couple turns and all of a sudden prices are up 20%, you know, it makes it more difficult to generate cash in that environment. In a tight price range environment, we should generate more cash in Q3 and Q4 than we did in Q2.

Ken Hoexter
Airfreight and Shipping Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thanks for the time and thoughts. Appreciate it.

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

Happy birthday.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Nolan with Stifel. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Ben Nolan
Managing Director, Stifel

Well, thank you. Happy birthday there, Mike. I happen to know that all the smartest people in the world were born in July, so happy birthday. I wanted to sort of level set, if I could, for a second, just to make sure that I understood everything correctly. The aviation business, you're expecting for the third quarter to be at least as good as it was last year, and then the other two businesses better, in some cases, substantially better than they were last year. Is that correct? Gross profit across the board you're expecting to be meaningfully higher than it was a year ago in the third quarter. Is that fair?

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

Oh, year-over-year, absolutely.

Ben Nolan
Managing Director, Stifel

Okay. That's how I thought that's what you'd said. I was just making sure. There's a few things that I'm curious about. First, the interest expense is a lot higher. I appreciate that there's a lot more working capital as you were just talking about with Ken. But in general, do you chalk that up? I'm trying to. The marine business was phenomenal, and so is the working capital primarily needed for that marine business? As a function of that, you're really able to pass on that cost of capital pretty effectively to your customers and maybe less so in the other businesses? Or am I not thinking about that right?

Michael Kasbar
Chairman and CEO, World Fuel Services

You know, Ben, I think the thing that you have to have, you know, you recall that there's a sort of a banking element to what we're doing. I mean, we are a source of financing for, you know, many of our customers. Similar to a bank, you know, high interest rate environment is favorable to us in that dimension. It's unfavorable in other dimensions, but I'll let Ira take the rest of it.

Yeah. You know, continuing on from what Mike just said, I would say the principal amount of cash needed to run the business in this high price environment and the incremental investment working capital does come out of marine, but aviation as well. Less so land.

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

You know, land, generally, just the makeup of that business, just has kind of much tighter cash flow and, you know, a lower investment in working capital. You know, to Mike's point, yeah, our interest expense went up, but relative to the increase in marine profitability, you know, I hate to call it a rounding error, but, you know, in that regard, it was significant, kind of in the ordinary course because we're about $10 million up, you know, sequentially. Again, that's as you hit it on the head, right? It's driven by higher average borrowings in the growing volume and a high price environment. Prices were up almost 15% in Q2 versus Q1.

Also, you know, with the Fed move yesterday and the one about a month ago, you know, our average rates. The Fed made their move yesterday. SOFR or LIBOR rates, you know, already factored most of that in, you know, weeks leading up to that. Our average borrowing costs are probably up about 150 basis points versus Q1. So you know, we're coming off a long period of sustained near zero rates. Of course, that's now changed. I personally don't believe that's gonna last for a really long time, not trying to be an economist, but for now, you know, that level of interest expense that we incurred in Q2, you know, will likely continue for the balance of the year.

Glenn, sitting here, is working hard to minimize that every day, but you know, it's unlikely that it'll be materially lower. Again, it's you know, as Mike mentioned, you know, being a bit of a bank, you know, it's indirectly you know, involved in or contributing to you know, higher margins in many parts of our business. We're making those underlying working capital investments.

Ben Nolan
Managing Director, Stifel

Right. Okay. That makes sense. Well, the last one for me, and I'll turn it over. You know, increasingly there is concern about the possibility of a recession, and I think that hit all equity markets, and I assume it's probably hit your own equity price a bit. Can you maybe talk me through how you think the company is positioned, how elastic or inelastic you might be to the potential of a recession? Or if you think that, you know, as it relates to World Fuel, that the company is different now than maybe it had been in previous cycles?

Michael Kasbar
Chairman and CEO, World Fuel Services

Certainly the credit side of the equation, you know, I think if COVID didn't demonstrate, you know, our risk management, I don't know what will. You know, sailing through it, I guess, is probably not the right word. It was certainly not sunny days. I think that's pretty well known. The variability, you know, of our, you know, cost piece, you know, we've concluded a number of different things in terms of, you know, platform. We've got a significantly greater volume. Certainly the credit side of the equation, you know, I think if COVID didn't demonstrate, you know, our risk management, I don't know what will.

You know, we're sailing through it, I guess, is probably not the right word. It was certainly not sunny days. I think that's pretty well known. Then the variability you know, of our you know, cost piece you know, we've concluded a number of different things in terms of you know, platform. We've got a significantly greater volume of activity, you know, going through the platform. You know, our ability to you know, modulate on you know, expense and looking at you know, volume and margin I think we're in a far better place now than we ever have been before. You know, a lot of our systems build out you know, has been concluded. You know, teams are in place.

The ability to, you know, dial back in a number of different areas, I think are significantly greater now. You know, it's taken a long time to get to that point, but I think we're all feeling, you know, confident. We're feeling pretty poised. You know, with all the things that we've been through, with everything that the market, you know, has thrown our way, you know, a recession sounds like, you know, a light drizzle. You know, I think that this is, you know, an organization and a team that has been fire-tested, fire-tempered. I think we know what to do. You know, for those companies that may be a bit stressed, we know how to support them as well.

If anything, as one of our investors was mentioning to Ira, this is a company that's built for turbulence. We know how to operate in all sorts of different market environments. I don't know. Ira, if you have more you wanna add?

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

Yeah. I'll try not to be repetitive to Mike, but you know, I kind of view the first half of 2020 as just a phenomenal example. I mean, that was the recession of all recessions where you know, a recession is when business slows down. In 2020, business just stopped. I think we did an excellent job of mitigating the volume and profit generation reduction by pivoting really quickly and taking a lot of cost out of our business. We acted immediately. Obviously, it was impossible to mitigate the entire drop off, but we certainly did as good of a job as I believe we could have in taking variable costs down and even some fixed costs out.

You know, I think we've demonstrated that in previous recessions as well. Of course, you know, along with the recession, you're probably gonna have some decrease in activity, which will reduce our working capital requirements, so we'd be getting some relief that way. You could, you know, glass half full would say, you know, that's one positive that would come out of that environment. The other thing that's interesting is, you know, while we, aside from the Flyers Energy deal, we haven't been, you know, crazy, acquisitive of late, but we have a solid balance sheet, and we're still out there, you know, hunting for opportunities that make sense across, you know, all of our businesses, you know, land, the Kinect, sustainability-related platform, et cetera.

You know, to be honest, I think a lot of folks have gotten ahead of their skis the last couple years, and multiples have been, you know, inflated and, you know, a recession could be a breath of fresh air in that regard of getting folks a little more humble in terms of valuation. It could lead to some, you know, better opportunities for us, you know, over the next few quarters, as valuations will clearly come down. You know, I think we've demonstrated pretty solid results on a relative basis in recessions in the past. You know, because our team is just, you know, phenomenally nimble, you know, of course you can't do a lot about demand, you know, drop off.

I believe, again, as I mentioned, we're a critically valued counterparty in this credit-constrained environment, and I think we're a more valued counterparty in an environment where, you know, there are recessionary tendencies.

Michael Kasbar
Chairman and CEO, World Fuel Services

Also, you know, likely to have lower prices, which will also be, you know, salutary for cash flow.

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

Cash flow. Right. Yep.

Ben Nolan
Managing Director, Stifel

All right. Well, I appreciate all the color there. Thanks, guys.

Michael Kasbar
Chairman and CEO, World Fuel Services

Ben, you got another question? You know.

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

You know, I'm not a July birthday, but if you want, I'm September, so you can ask me now or ask me in September.

Ben Nolan
Managing Director, Stifel

Well, Mike, if you beg it out of me, you guys were just talking about the Flyers Energy acquisition. I know that when you'd done that, there were aspirations of, you know, possibly finding others adjacent bolt-ons in similar business areas, but expanding the geographic footprint. Any update on how you're thinking about that?

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

Playing off of what I just said, you know, Ben, yes, you know, we're still thinking about that. There are a lot of opportunities that we're looking at. With all due respect to some of those people, you know, many of them, you know, until very recently at least, continue to have extremely high aspirations from a value perspective. That has resulted in maybe less activity or, you know, no activity in the last few months than we would've hoped. I think that may change. You know, there are several things we're looking at now that would be complementary to Flyers and the broader land business.

You know, hopefully, we'll be able to execute on a few of those, you know, over the next few quarters. We continue, as you know, Mike and I have both emphasized a bit more on this call, you know, the growing suite of products and services we have supporting our customers with their, you know, their energy transition journey. You know, there are a lot of opportunities there, frothy valuations in that area as well. Hopefully, those are about to become a bit more reasonable, and we're certainly looking to organically grow that business, but, you know, find strategic opportunities to accelerate the growth of that exciting piece of our business as well.

Ben Nolan
Managing Director, Stifel

All right. I'm tapped out. That does it for me. I appreciate it. Thanks, guys.

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

All right.

Michael Kasbar
Chairman and CEO, World Fuel Services

Thanks, Ben. Thanks very much.

Ira Birns
EVP and CFO, World Fuel Services

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Call, thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone, I would like to hand the conference back over to Mr. Michael Kasbar for any further remarks.

Michael Kasbar
Chairman and CEO, World Fuel Services

Well, thank you to all of our investors on the call and especially to the team, our global team. We've got the best global team and we've been through a lot. Feels good to be here and we're excited about the future. We've got a great global platform. We've got a great suite of products, and we've got great support from our customers and suppliers and partners, so we feel very lucky. Thanks very much, and we look forward to reporting back in a quarter. Stay healthy, stay well.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great evening.

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