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Earnings Call: Q1 2022

Oct 27, 2021

Operator

Good evening. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Wolfspeed, Inc. first quarter fiscal year 2022 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad.

If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star followed by two. We ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Thank you. Please note that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Tyler Gronbach, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Tyler Gronbach
VP of Investor Relations, Wolfspeed Inc

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Wolfspeed's first quarter fiscal 2022 conference call. Today, Wolfspeed CEO Gregg Lowe and Wolfspeed CFO Neill Reynolds will report on the results for the first quarter of fiscal year 2022. Please note that we will be presenting non-GAAP financial results during today's call, which is consistent with how management measures Wolfspeed's results internally.

Non-GAAP results are not in accordance with GAAP and may not be comparable to non-GAAP information provided by other companies. Non-GAAP information should be considered as supplement to, and not a substitute for, financial statements prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is in our press release and posted in the Investor Relations section of our website, along with a historical summary of other key metrics.

Today's discussion includes forward-looking statements about our business outlook, and we may make other forward-looking statements during the course of the call. Such forward-looking statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties. Our news release today and the SEC filings noted in the release mention important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially, including risks related to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.

During the Q&A session, we would ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up so that we can accommodate as many questions as possible during today's call. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact us after the call. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Gregg.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thanks, Tyler, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today, and I hope you and your families are staying healthy and safe. I am pleased to report that during the first quarter, we continued to execute and drive our business, delivering strong revenue above our guidance and non-GAAP diluted earnings per share at the high end of our guidance range.

Now, this has been a momentous period for us. We changed our name to Wolfspeed, capitalizing on our 30+ year heritage of working with silicon carbide. The next generation in power semiconductors will be driven by silicon carbide technology with superior performance that unleashes new possibilities and positive changes to the way we live. As the original champion of this technology, we couldn't be more excited to compete and win in the rapidly expanding marketplace.

As part of our move to Wolfspeed, we also are pleased to have joined the New York Stock Exchange earlier this month as we continue on our transformational journey as a pure-play global semiconductor powerhouse, leading the industry transition from silicon to silicon carbide. We look forward to discussing the strong progress we've made on our transformational journey and strategy and share more detail about this exciting long-term outlook during our Investor Day in New York City next month.

If you haven't received a registration link, please, reach out to Tyler. I'll now turn it over to Neill, who will provide an overview of our financial results for the first quarter and our outlook for the second quarter of fiscal 2022. Neill.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thank you, Gregg, and good afternoon, everyone. We delivered solid results during the first quarter as we continued to see increased demand for our devices and materials. Revenues for the first quarter of fiscal 2022 were $156.6 million, above the high end of our guidance range, representing an increase of 7.4% sequentially and 35.6% year-over-year.

Our non-GAAP net loss was $23.8 million or $0.21 per diluted share at the top end of our guidance range. Our first quarter non-GAAP earnings exclude $46.3 million of expense, net of tax or $0.40 per diluted share for non-cash stock-based compensation, acquired intangibles amortization, accretion on our convertible notes, project transformation and transaction costs, factory optimization startup costs, and other items outlined in today's earnings release. Moving on to the first quarter performance.

We delivered our fifth consecutive quarter of sequential growth. In power, momentum continued to build as our customers have a demonstrated need for our products, resulting in revenue growth of 57% over the prior year. For RF, we continued to see good activity on the 5G front, but performance was slightly muted due to output challenges. As we discussed on our last call, we did see some supply constraints and some lower productivity during the quarter as our Malaysian contract manufacturer continued to ramp activities back up following the recent COVID-19 outbreak.

At this time, we do not expect any additional impact from the Malaysia shutdown as the factory continues to ramp towards a normal production schedule. Moving to materials, we saw a better order flow during the quarter, which we expect will continue for the remainder of the fiscal year.

First quarter non-GAAP gross margin was 33.5% compared to 32.3% last quarter. The sequential increase was driven by solid performance in materials and improving MOSFET costs and yields. As previously discussed, we view the gross margin impact as short term in nature due to the suboptimal device production footprint we have in North Carolina. Expect it to modestly improve going forward as we work through factory transitions and improve yields.

Looking at our consolidated results, non-GAAP operating expense for Q1 were $86 million, and our non-GAAP tax rate was 27%. The increase in our operating expenses was largely due to R&D, including investment in our 200 mm pilot line in support of the Mohawk Valley ramp. For the first quarter, day sales outstanding was 53 days, and inventory days on hand was 154 days.

Cash generated from operations was negative $63 million, and capital expenditures were $209 million, resulting in negative free cash flow of $272 million. We believe we are in solid position with approximately $850 million of cash and liquidity on hand to support our growth. However, we will be opportunistic from a capital market standpoint to ensure we can have the flexibility to invest as we see fit to continue to underpin our position in the market and fuel future growth.

As we continue our transition to a pure-play global semiconductor company, we will update our disclosures as appropriate and necessary. A few things I'd like to highlight this quarter. First, we incurred startup costs, primarily related to the ramp at Mohawk Valley. Approximately $8.6 million was incurred in Q1, and we expect this to ramp throughout the remainder of the fiscal year. As noted previously, we expect a total of approximately $80 million of startup costs in fiscal 2022, with the majority of these costs incurred in the second half of the fiscal year as we qualify and ramp the fab. We have provided a non-GAAP adjustment for the startup costs as well as a reconciliation table in our earnings release.

Second, as noted in the news release, and as you'll see when we file the 10-Q tomorrow, now that we have successfully transitioned the company to Wolfspeed and are solely focused on our plans to be a leading global semiconductor provider, we've adjusted the expected useful lives of certain assets to better reflect their estimated economic lives for a silicon carbide-based semiconductor business versus a company that was primarily focused on lighting and LED products.

The changes resulted in a decrease in depreciation expense of $8.4 million for the first quarter. The impact on first quarter gross margin is relatively small, and we expect that to phase into the margins over the next few quarters. As we've previously mentioned, we are continuing to experience a significantly steeper demand curve from our customers for silicon carbide products than we had initially expected.

This has led to supply constraints where some customer orders will not be fulfilled in fiscal year 2022, and channel inventory levels will remain low until we ramp our production in our Mohawk Valley fab. We are confident that we will be able to meet this high demand, but in the meantime, we are continuing to accelerate CapEx capacity investments, and our team is working hard to improve output in our Durham facilities.

We are anticipating net capital expenditures of approximately $475 million for the year, with Q1 representing the peak investment period, and we will start to see a modest step down beginning in Q2 and continuing throughout the second half of the year as we receive more reimbursements for the Mohawk Valley construction.

We continue to pull in capacity expenditures where we can into fiscal year 2022 to better support the steepening demand curves. We remain on track to operationalize the world's largest silicon carbide fab in the first half of calendar year 2022. We know many of our customers are focused on assurance of supply when it comes to silicon carbide, and we are committed to meeting that demand given the steeper ramps that we are now expecting.

Looking to the second quarter, we are encouraged by the positive momentum, yet as a reminder, progress may not be linear over the next few quarters as we ramp production at Mohawk Valley. In the second quarter of fiscal 2022, we are targeting revenue in the range of $165 million-$175 million.

We expect revenue to be driven by strength across all of our product lines, led by power devices. Our Q2 non-GAAP gross margin is expected to be in the range of 33.7%-35.7%, which is an increase versus Q1. As we have stated previously, the key to our gross margin transition from the low 30s to 50%+ relies heavily on our fab cost footprint transition from North Carolina to Mohawk Valley. As we transition to that new footprint and qualify the factory in 2022 and drive revenue growth into 2023 and beyond, we will see the benefits of increasing production from our advanced 200 mm fab.

Wafer processing costs in Mohawk Valley are expected to be more than 50% lower than Durham, not fully including the benefit from the diameter change from 150 mm to 200 mm. In addition, we expect cycle times in Mohawk Valley to be more than 50% better than in Durham, and yields in Mohawk Valley to be 20-30 points higher than where we are in Durham today.

We are already seeing good evidence from our Mohawk Valley pilot line to support these projections and anticipate a heavy margin improvement as we move to our new fab. We are targeting non-GAAP operating expense of $88 million for the second quarter. We expect operating expenses to continue to accrete modestly each quarter as we continue our investment in R&D and sales and marketing resources.

We target Q2 non-GAAP operating loss to be between $32 million-$26 million and non-operating net loss to be immaterial. We expect our non-GAAP effective tax rate to be approximately 27%. We're targeting Q2 non-GAAP net loss to be between $19 million-$23 million or a loss of $0.16-$0.20 per diluted share. The EPS outlook for Q2 includes approximately $0.02 of benefit from the previously mentioned change in estimate of useful lives.

Our non-GAAP EPS target excludes acquired intangibles amortization, non-cash stock-based compensation, accretion on the convertible notes, project transformation and transaction costs, factory optimization, restructuring, and startup costs, and other items. Our Q2 targets are based on several factors that could vary greatly, including the situation with COVID-19, overall demand, product mix, factory productivity, and the competitive environment. With that, I will now turn the discussion back to Gregg.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thanks, Neill. We made remarkable progress on our transformational journey during our fiscal first quarter. Our power business continues to see strong demand from the automotive markets, and we are also encouraged by the increasing demand across a number of industrial and energy customers. The strength of our device opportunity pipeline, which now is about $18 billion, underscores the significant demand we're seeing not only for automotive power, but also in RF, industrial, and energy solutions.

Now, if you recall at our 2019 Investor Day, we showed a $9 billion device opportunity pipeline. So we've doubled the pipeline in the last two years and now have more than 8,200 potential projects. The team continues to identify additional opportunities at a rapid pace. Meanwhile, the sales team is converting these opportunities at an impressive rate with approximately $560 million of design-ins awarded during the last quarter.

A significant portion of these were for automotive inverters, while we also continued to secure other interesting applications, including a wall charger for electric vehicles, an elevator, energy storage products, and an induction cooktop. Our massive device pipeline and continued success securing design-ins continues to give us confidence in our ability to achieve our target revenue for fiscal 2024 of $1.5 billion, with current demand trends offering some potential upside based on the steepening demand for silicon carbide through 2024 and beyond.

As we focus on executing across our business, we are pleased to see our strategy is further supported by developments in the broader market. Global electric vehicle sales are expected to be over 6 million this year, according to consulting firm Wood Mackenzie. Electric vehicle sales in the first half of 2021 nearly tripled worldwide compared to the first half of last year.

The share of electric vehicle sales in the global passenger car sales doubled compared to the same period last year. This performance provides another proof point of the end of the ICE Age as consumers transition from internal combustion engine and embrace electric vehicles. As more OEMs and Tier Ones leverage silicon carbide-based solutions for powertrains, onboard chargers, and off-board fast chargers, which increase the vehicle's range and reduce charge times, we expect the adoption rates to continue to increase.

President Biden, in his address last month to the United Nations General Assembly, reiterated his intent to work with Congress to make critical investments in green infrastructure and electric vehicles. In mid-September, U.S. lawmakers proposed an expansion of tax credits for electric vehicles that includes significantly higher subsidies for union-made zero-emission models assembled in the United States.

We are continuing to see U.S. automakers make big commitments to ramp up their electric vehicle efforts. For instance, in late September, Ford announced that it would spend $ billions to build three battery factories and an electric truck plant in the United States, significantly increasing its commitment to electric cars and trucks.

We remain well-positioned to capitalize on these opportunities as we are in the midst of increasing manufacturing capacity, including bringing online the world's largest silicon carbide fab in a matter of months. In fact, we believe our capacity expansion efforts were a critical factor that led General Motors to choosing us to provide power device solutions for its future electric vehicle programs.

Our silicon carbide devices will enable GM to install more efficient EV propulsion systems in several different models that will extend the range of its rapidly expanding EV portfolio. The combination of Wolfspeed's global leadership in silicon carbide and GM's commitment to an all-electric future, including a plan to launch 30 electric vehicles globally by the end of 2025, establishes a powerful partnership, pushing the boundaries of electric vehicle innovation together.

Our Mohawk Valley 200 mm fab remains on track to start qualification runs in the first half of 2022. We now have more than 50 of the primary ballroom tools placed in the clean room. We've had an opportunity to host several global automotive executives at the site, and they were impressed with the level of automation and the overall scale of the operation.

In Durham, we have major expansion underway right now to continue the growth of our materials capacity. The space conversion and refit-up is actively being converted from an old lighting and office space into industrial space for significant growth of our crystal growth and FE capability. Our expansion enables us to increase the number of growers and take advantage of our continued crystal growth technology improvements, which increase production yield.

To avoid supply constraints, we've already ordered the majority of the long lead time items, including electrical substations and steel infrastructure. In terms of timing, we will start ramping phase one of this phase in June of 2022. In particular, it is being built out in three phases and gives us adequate growth capability through 2025 or 2026, depending on realized demand.

In sum, as we move forward in our new capacity as Wolfspeed, we will continue to execute our strategy to create a global semiconductor powerhouse. We continue to win business at a very good pace. While we're making necessary investments to deliver next-generation technology to our customers. We are excited about the opportunities ahead and are confident in our strategy and our path forward. We look forward to discussing the progress we've made on our transformational strategy and share more details about our long-term outlook during our Investor Day in New York next month.

With that, I'll turn it back over to the operator, and we can begin the Q&A session.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, once again, to ask a question, please press star one. As a reminder, we are limiting questions to one question and one follow-up, so please be mindful. The first question we have is from Vivek Arya with Bank of America. You may proceed.

Blake Freeman
Analyst, Bank of America

Hi, this is Blake Freeman on for Vivek. I was just curious for my first question, at the beginning of the month, I believe you announced a strategic supplier agreement with GM. Can you provide further details on the agreement or an overview of Wolfspeed's assurance of supply program? Relative to 90 days ago, can you kind of mention how customer engagements with auto OEMs have changed or progressed?

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Sure. On October 4th, we announced jointly together with General Motors a partnership with them as we're providing silicon carbide devices for their EV platforms. The program is slated to go into several different vehicles, and we'll be starting ramping after 2024. I can't get into a lot of other detail about that other than to say it's a really great partnership that we have together with GM, and I think it you know in terms of the assurance of supply program this is a really key item for GM, and it's become a hot button for all of our customers that are currently experiencing a lot of supply issues in the silicon world.

As a, you know, an integrated device manufacturer that has its own capabilities and materials, we're kind of in a unique position to be able to offer this kind of assurance of supply.

Blake Freeman
Analyst, Bank of America

That's good to hear. Just quickly for my follow-up, just with regards to the increase in the useful life of certain assets, just to make sure our math is correct, the net impact to GM this quarter was at about 20-30 basis points, and if you can maybe clarify the impact moving forward over the next few quarters, that'd be great. Thanks.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

No, that's right. Yeah, about 30 basis points I think in 1Q, and then you could see it kind of bleeding into the guidance into 2Q between one and two points. You can think about maybe, you know, 150 basis points or so for 2Q, and then another one to two points kind of bleeding in to the back half of the year. You got to think about that in terms of a revenue exit rate for the year of around $200 million or so, which I think we have very good line of sight to.

Blake Freeman
Analyst, Bank of America

Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Pierre Ferragu with New Street. You may proceed.

Pierre Ferragu
Head of Global Technology Infrastructure Research, New Street

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Can you hear me fine?

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yes, we can. Thank you.

Pierre Ferragu
Head of Global Technology Infrastructure Research, New Street

Okay, great. I have a question about your 200 mm wafers. I was wondering, you know, how you're approaching the question of making these wafers available to your substrate clients. How you're thinking about that, and then, you know, how far you are in the process. Have you already shipped some of these wafers to your clients so that they can start, you know, playing with them, look at whether they would like to adopt the new size? Thanks.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah. Thanks for the question. We're obviously focused on an internal ramp at this point with our new 200 mm factory coming online. That's really where the focus is. The results, as Neill had talked about, of running these wafers through our pilot line is actually very encouraging at this point. We feel real good about being able to ramp that. It's really, you know, with the new factory coming online, we're really focused on getting that factory up and running.

Pierre Ferragu
Head of Global Technology Infrastructure Research, New Street

Okay. In that case, do you have a sense for, you know, what could be the earliest your competitors would on the device side could have a similar like 200 mm fab? What kind of lead time they would get based on, like what you see from like a substrate perspective?

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah, hard to tell. You know, obviously, we began construction of our 200 mm factory almost two years ago, so a year and a half, a year and three quarters ago. It does take a while to actually get a silicon carbide factory up and running. There are some differences between silicon and silicon carbide in terms of the equipment that you need in the fab, and so you have to kind of be thinking through that.

I don't know exactly when that would be for everybody, but I know that for us, going from not having a factory to having a 200 mm factory beginning to run qualification material. It's a two-year process, and that was started, of course, 18 months ago or so, before there were all these supply issues. I would imagine if you're trying to build a factory today at 200 mm, it probably would be a lot longer than two years, would be my guess.

Pierre Ferragu
Head of Global Technology Infrastructure Research, New Street

Thanks, Gregg.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Gary Mobley with Wells Fargo. You may proceed.

Gary Mobley
Executive Director and Senior Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hey, guys. Hey, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about some of the supply constraints and the impact this has had on your unfilled backlog. If I'm not mistaken, last quarter, you identified roughly $100 million in revenue you're not able to fill, and I presume that was mostly on the RF side and related to some of the bottlenecks out of Malaysia. Now that we're sitting here late October, where does that unfilled backlog sit, and how would you characterize the trends or the gap between demand and supply overall?

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thanks, Gary for the question. You know, I think if you think about the amount that we've got, and we just took the revenue numbers up, obviously in 2Q and the outlook for the rest of the year, as I said earlier, I think we've got pretty good line of sight to kind of exiting the year kind of at $200, maybe a little bit north of revenue there. I think we're making progress on driving more capacity through the system, whether that be in Malaysia or here in Durham. The challenge we've got is that the demand keeps steepening.

I think if you look into this year and as you get into next year, we always talked about that transition point being 2023 or 2024, and, you know, that demand curve continues to steepen, and it's right, you know, right upon us, you know, right now. I still think that even with that revenue increase, you know, we still have north of $100 million of unfilled demand, and we're really just pushing, you know, as hard as we can, whether it be CapEx or driving organic, you know, throughput or, you know, bringing as much capacity online as we can to kind of close those gaps.

Now, as you know, the big transition for us is getting to Mohawk Valley. You know, the faster we can make that transition and move into Mohawk Valley, but we're looking at kind of any and all solutions to try and close that gap as you know, as fast as we can.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

I think, Gary, maybe just a couple other additional points. You know, we made some changes here in North Carolina in terms of brought in some leadership for the wafer fabs here. We're seeing some early signs of good progress there. Customers are super excited about that. Then the additional thing that Neill mentioned, you know, with Mohawk Valley coming online, you know, customers are obviously super excited about that.

In fact, last quarter, we received our first official purchase order for products coming out of Mohawk Valley on 200 mm wafers. You know, they're seeing that light at the end of the tunnel, and you know, it was great to get that first purchase order in.

Gary Mobley
Executive Director and Senior Analyst, Wells Fargo

Great. Appreciate that. My follow-up, I wanted to ask you, Gregg, about China. If I'm not mistaken, your expectations in terms of revenue contribution from China as part of your 2024 plan is only about 10% of that $1.5 billion revenue forecast. As you know, you know, ROHM and Sanan seem to have a stronghold on some of the Chinese EV OEMs. I'm wondering if you have any change in your outlook as it relates to China for better or for worse as a contribution to Cree. I'm sorry, misspeak.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

No. Yeah. We haven't changed that at this point. What I would say is the, you know, the tensions, the global tensions between, especially between the U.S. and China remains pretty high, I would say. There doesn't seem to be a sign from my viewpoint of anything abating. We just think it's just prudent to kind of dial that back a little bit. You know, that being said, we've got a lot of activity in China, and, you know, customers are evaluating products and design wins and so forth. I think it's just prudent to dial that back just in light of the increased tensions.

Gary Mobley
Executive Director and Senior Analyst, Wells Fargo

Thank you, guys. Look forward to seeing you in a couple weeks.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thanks, Gary.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Jed Dorsheimer with Canaccord Genuity. You may proceed.

Jed Dorsheimer
Managing Director, Canaccord Genuity

Thanks. It's a tough one. Hey, guys, congratulations on a great quarter outlook. I guess first question, Gregg, maybe just shifting the conversation away from EVs. It seems like that's been most of the lines of questioning. You know, there's many more applications, you know, beyond EV, solar inverters, grid forming, grid following inverters, wind turbines, just to name a few. I was wondering if you might be able to give an update, and in the context of that, how has the assurance of supply, specifically in some of the non-automotive, changed the conversations of how some of your partners are looking at you? Then I do have a follow-up.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Sure, Jed. Thanks for the question. You know, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, you know, we've got the pipeline now at over $18 billion, has over 8,200 projects in there. You know, of course, a lot of the value is automotive, but a lot of the number of projects are these other applications. You know, I talked about an industrial cooktop that we won, a wall charger, an elevator.

You're exactly right. We're seeing a lot of momentum in the broader industrial markets. You know, customers are switching from silicon to silicon carbide across a number of different end equipments. Our partnership, obviously, with Arrow helps us reach those customers. That continues to be a very strong relationship and strong partnership.

You know, the momentum there is actually quite solid. I feel real good about that. What I would tell you, Jed, you know, in terms of the capacity coming online, those industrial customers are also paying attention to the fact that, you know, it was nearly two years. Well, it was two years ago we made the decision to invest in a new fab, and then, you know, we broke ground in March of 2020. You know, they see that we made those investments well ahead of this demand coming online, and they're really appreciating that.

As they start looking into designing in silicon carbide, they're definitely paying attention to who made those investments, you know, almost two years ago, and is now bringing on capacity. We're looking pretty good from that perspective.

Jed Dorsheimer
Managing Director, Canaccord Genuity

Awesome.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Sure.

Jed Dorsheimer
Managing Director, Canaccord Genuity

Just as my follow-up, I'll just turn to Neill for a second. Just going back to a previous question, just by my math, if I, you know, kind of pull out some of the one-times from the margin adjustment, it looks like yields in the wafer facility ticked up a few points. You know, Gregg mentioned not by name, but Rex Felton coming on, sort of some of the management changes, and I'm just wondering whether or not. Well, one is that in line with what you saw? I'm assuming then that we've kind of seen a bottom in margin as yields seem like they're moving up down in Durham.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

That's right, Jed. I think we've, you know, I think we've seen the bottom, and we're starting to turn up the, you know, the other way, you know, on margin. I think there's several components to that. One is, you know, we did have a bit of a drag with this kind of Malaysia subcontractor issue, you know, the COVID-19 outbreak, and we've been recovering from that. I think that we've put that behind us. I think the second thing is, and Gregg mentioned it earlier, that we've seen some, you know, benefits just from some of the, you know, the new staff and the management changes that we made.

We are seeing good early returns on that, but it will take a little bit of time for that to work itself through inventory and see itself, you know, kind of enter the results. As we move forward, you know, I think we're gonna see, you know, margin expansion both in the device and the materials businesses. The one thing to be aware of is that the power device business is just gonna grow faster, and we're just seeing that order flow right now. It's off that, you know, regardless of, you know, the improvements there, that's gonna be kind of a negative mix for us, right, just based on the North Carolina footprint.

I think what you'll see is margin expansion in terms of the fundamentals of the business, and then we'll see a little bit of that, kind of maybe, held back a little bit, just by the overall mix on device. And then as we've talked about many times, once we ship that over to Mohawk Valley, that's really the solution. I do think we'll see, you know, some strong margin improvement here as we move forward.

Jed Dorsheimer
Managing Director, Canaccord Genuity

Great. Thanks, guys.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thanks, Jed.

Operator

Thank you. The next call is from Brian Lee with Goldman Sachs. Mr. Lee, you may proceed.

Brian Lee
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess first one, just talking about the scale and the capacity, given you know, it sounds like the demand environment is getting better, and there's potentially upside. Can you give us some thoughts around adding more raw materials capacity, whether it be on, you know, timing, location, you know, maybe anything on potential scale versus what you have today in Durham? And then also, maybe related to that, how much it would cost, and, you know, Neill, you alluded to being open about accessing capital markets, sort of how that would all fit into the strategy here going forward. I had a follow-up.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, Brian. We are doing that capacity expansion for the materials business, you know, kind of as we speak. It's been something that we've actually been doing now for the last year and a half or so inside of our current materials building. We've now gone across the street to a different building and are expanding that. If you happen to come on our campus these days, you'll see a lot of construction and, you know, fences up and things like that, and that's all the transitioning of that old lighting facility and actually what used to be a basketball court to a materials production, you know, operation.

That's going very well. We're super excited about that, and that expands our capacity here on campus, but to a different facility. That's something that's been ongoing for the last couple of years in the existing building and now is going on in a building across the street from us.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah, Brian, just to your second point there, obviously, you know, we've been working on this capital expansion for, you know, a couple of years now, you know, two to three years. We've put a substantial amount of CapEx to work for us to essentially triple the business over the next, you know, from last year out to 2024. You know, ramping beyond what we've done already is already kind of a challenge.

I think as I've talked about many times, this really becomes a supply side challenge, and we're trying to manage that, you know, and push it as fast and as hard as we can. As it relates to funding it, I mean, there's several different funding ways that we've been managing this.

You know, one of them that we haven't seen a lot of yet, but it's really starting to kick in, is the reimbursements from New York for Mohawk Valley. From a CapEx standpoint, we're gonna spend $475 million or so this year, and that's gonna step down in the back half of the year as we see more of those reimbursements coming in. As you look out over that timeframe, you know, obviously we'll be opportunistic, just around, you know, can we, you know, look for opportunities to, you know, increase the revenue between now and that time.

Still, I would say it's a supply side challenge thing, and we're somewhat limited in the options that we have, although we're looking for solutions, you know, always within the four walls that we have right now, to kind of go manage that. Again, if that required being opportunistic, you know, it's something I would look at. Right now I think we're in pretty good shape from a, you know, cash and liquidity standpoint to kind of manage where we're at. Again, we'll be opportunistic looking forward.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Just a real quick addition on that. You know, obviously anything from a supply perspective, you know, near term before we get Mohawk Valley would be out of our Durham wafer fabs, and that's where we brought in some new leadership. You mentioned Rex Felton, but also Missy Stigall has come in last quarter, and is already making an impact, a pretty strong and positive impact in terms of how the fab operates. Now, we still have a ways to go, but we're seeing, you know, really good early indications of some good progress that she's gonna make.

Brian Lee
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Appreciate that context. The second one from me, on the VW framework agreement, I mean, I think this was one of your original sort of, you know, points on the board, if you will, a couple years back. I know you've talked about, customer developments accelerating of late, especially on the automotive side, and then you've had some nice Tier 1 wins like GM here recently. Just wondering, can you update us a bit on kind of what's the latest at VW, where you are in terms of reaching any stage of, you know, commercialization and, a revenue opportunity there? Thanks, guys.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

You know, nothing specifically to announce on any additional customers. We obviously were able to announce the GM deal through a joint, you know, press release, so, you know, we win business and sometimes we're able to announce specifics about it, and sometimes we're not. At this point, we don't have anything to announce on that. What I would tell you is we've had a number of automotive OEMs and a number of Tier 1s that have come to visit us, you know. Well, we visit with them a lot, but over the last quarter, we had a number come visit with us here in North Carolina and also go visit the wafer fab in Mohawk Valley, and they leave quite impressed and quite satisfied with what we're doing.

As many of you know, I've been in Europe multiple times, even during COVID, visiting with customers, doing my five-day quarantine to start that off, but then visiting with customers, and that's kept the level of engagement quite high. Both Neill and I were in Europe a couple of months ago. We're actually going back in the first two weeks of December for more customer visits. Of course, you know, the week before October 4th, I was in Detroit visiting with folks, including General Motors, and preparing for that announcement. We've stayed high on the engagement list in terms of engaging with customers both virtually and live with them, and we're feeling really good about the development of the relationships we have.

They see the fact that, you know, two years ago, we made the decision to increase output. In March 2020, we started you know, moving dirt in Mohawk Valley, and they see that, you know, in a matter of of, you know, a couple of months here, we're gonna be running production, well, qualification runs in the first half of 2022, calendar 2022. Then, you know, getting our first customer purchase order for, specifically for Mohawk Valley 200 mm equipment is really encouraging. You know, all of that is tied up pretty nicely. I think that's helped us win the business at, you know, the $560 million that we just got this last quarter, the $2.9 billion that we got in fiscal 2021.

That's all really positive, and it's also helped us increase the pipeline. You know, that device pipeline doubling in the last two years, it's technically more than doubled because the $9 billion that we referenced at our last Investor Day had LED in it, and obviously it doesn't anymore. You know, we're just feeling like there's a really nice transition happening with silicon carbide in the industry, and the fact that we were pretty far ahead of anybody in terms of expanding capacity is proving to be a very positive thing for us.

Brian Lee
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

All right. Thanks, guys. I'll pass it on.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thanks, Brian.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Edward Snyder with Charter Equity Research. You may proceed.

Edward Snyder
Managing Director, Charter Equity Research

Thank you very much. First off, if I could, Gregg, looking at all the math, you go through all the details of where you are in both the device fab in North Carolina and the materials business and your plans for Mohawk Valley. It's hard to escape the reality that, you know, Mohawk won't be up and running in material revenue really until probably early 2023. I know you're gonna ramp. I know the plans for ramping. But in terms of really starting to impact the top line, it doesn't show up until probably 2023, and that gives you about, maybe 18 months to hit your financial targets. I just wanna check some reality.

You're gonna need to be growing revenue at least 50% year-over-year, every quarter, and maybe even as high as 100% in the early stages in order to get there. At the same time, isn't it also the case that the device business or the device fab in North Carolina is gonna have to get their margins at least in the high 30s, probably even the low 40s, into fiscal year 2024 to hit the targets you have laid out here? Does that ballpark make sense to you?

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Well, you know, our target remains $1.5 billion in 2024, and as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, we're feeling pretty good about that. You know, the steepening of the demand curve is certainly there. The demand isn't, I would say, an issue at all relative to that target. We're feeling very good about that. We have, you know, obviously a lot of effort in terms of getting Mohawk Valley going. Just recall, we as part of the deal in New York, we got a pilot line. That pilot line was converted to 200 mm silicon carbide a long time ago, but maybe a year ago or something like that.

We've been running you know 200 mm wafers through that pilot line for quite some time. We're seeing you know the initial MOSFETs and Schottkys out there. The yields are looking pretty good. We feel like when we get the fab you know up and running, it's gonna be in. It'll kind of have a running start, so to speak. I think from a North Carolina perspective, we made the change with Missy joining the team. She's made a tremendous amount of progress in a very very short amount of time in terms of changing how the factory operates, the metrics that they're looking at, and so forth.

Initial indications are really positive, and so we've got, you know, good hope for some continued, you know, very strong progress out of that factory as we're ramping Mohawk Valley.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Let me just add to that, Ed. I think, you know, if you look at, you know, the North Carolina fab, you know, while the cost footprint is higher, we've also transitioned the fab, and I've talked about it before, we had to stabilize it. We put over 100 tools into it over the last year or so, and we haven't really seen all the benefits of that. I think we'll get better, more improvement out of North Carolina as we move through the, you know, remainder of the year.

You know, the difference is that, you know, we're just talking about a different diameter and a bigger scale factory in Mohawk Valley, but I think that Durham still plays a very important role for us, and the improvement that we can see out of it between now and that timeframe you're talking about.

Edward Snyder
Managing Director, Charter Equity Research

Great. Thanks. If I could follow up with you, Neill. I mean, you mentioned again this quarter, you have a 50% lower wafer cost in Mohawk Valley than in Durham, and that didn't include the full benefit of 200 mm. You also said, 50% lower cycle time and 20-30 points better yield.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Mm-hmm.

Edward Snyder
Managing Director, Charter Equity Research

The 50% lower wafer cost has caused quite a bit of confusion, not just among us, but of some of your larger investors, and we spent quite a bit of time in the quarter.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Mm-hmm. Sure.

Edward Snyder
Managing Director, Charter Equity Research

Going through it, and with IR. I mean, and really, you are the guy we've been trying to get ahold of in order to explain the specifics of that. If I could just set the stage on the debate that's been raging all quarter is if the 50% faster cycle time already captures amortization of fixed costs across your wafers, so you kind of capture that in the 50% cycle time, and the 20%-30% percentage point yield improvement captures the lower breakage and better process control that you're gonna get in this automated fab, where does the 50% lower wafer cost come from? In talking to Tyler through the quarter, he was maintaining that that didn't include any of the

150 mm versus 150 mm, but your comments seem to suggest there's something with 200 mm in there. Maybe you could explain for us finally what goes into that 50%. Is it 200 mm? Is it something we're missing, or is it captured in some of the other metrics? Thanks.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

No, the cycle time obviously is part of the wafer processing cost, but there's a lot more cost in the model obviously than just the wafer processing cost, okay? If you think about it going from 150 mm to 200 mm, normally wafer processing costs would go up, just by the nature of it. In this case, we're saying just on a nominal basis, it's going down, and if you take into account the 200 mm benefit, it's, you know, well above, you know, 50%, significantly above 50%. I think more than 50% is a fair way to talk about it in that sense. Then, of course, you have to add the yield benefit on top of that, right?

The number of good die that we're getting off every wafer is 20-30 points higher. Just from a pure cost benefit standpoint, if you go down to the die level, that's well over 50% when you start putting those two things together. I think, you know, 50%, greater than 50%, I think, is a reasonable way to talk about it at this point, and I think that we have line of sight, you know, obviously to, you know, even better numbers than that in terms of the die level.

Edward Snyder
Managing Director, Charter Equity Research

The 50% lower wafer cost does capture, to a large extent, the large amount of breakage that you have on a 150 mm in Durham and how that won't occur in Mohawk Valley. That's where a lot of it comes from. Even with a bigger wafer, you're still getting better wafer costs on it.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

That's right. The processing cost at 200 mm is better than 150 mm, which that doesn't take into account the change, right? There's an improvement right there, and then you get the benefit of going to 150 mm to 200 mm, and on top of that, not only do you get the bigger wafer with more die on it, you get, you know, the yield off that die is better, so you get a better, you know, cost.

Edward Snyder
Managing Director, Charter Equity Research

Great. Thank you.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Craig Irwin with ROTH Capital Markets . Your line is open.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, ROTH Capital Markets

Hi. Good evening, and thanks for taking my questions. Gregg, I was hoping you could help us understand the composition of the $560 million in awards in the quarter. Can you maybe talk a little bit about how much of that is automotive versus distribution and, you know, how much of that is likely to turn as revenue within the next, let's say maybe 12 months versus being a contribution to demand in the 2024 or 2024 + timeframe?

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thanks, Craig. Let me hit the second question first. A very small percentage of any of that $560 million will turn into revenue in the next 12 months, and that's you know. Industrial applications definitely have a longer gestation period from design in to revenue ramp. It'll be maybe some, but it'll be relatively small. You know not much is what I'm saying. There's not a whole lot of you know sort of consumer applications. Industrial is definitely a couple of years. Automotive typically is four or five years.

You know, a little bit longer period. In terms of the design-ins, I don't have the exact numbers, but I recall it to be about half is automotive for the $560 million. Of the rest, we've got some nice RF design wins that we've gotten or design-ins that we've gotten. You know, a very strong industrial play. I mentioned, you know, a couple of these, industrial cooktop and induction cooktop, a wall charger, elevator, an elevator application. You know, things that, you know, we wouldn't normally be able to cover, but with the partnership we've had with Arrow now for a couple of years, we're able to reach those customers as well.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, ROTH Capital Markets

Great. Now that actually bridges very well to my second question. Yes, you've had an excellent relationship with Arrow and your distribution partners over the last many years, and it's helped you cost effectively serve emerging customers, emerging applications. The EV charging application, I would not call that emerging. There's a super customer out there in charging, a real pioneer that you've served from day one.

You know, most of the hardware guys we talk to either have silicon carbide in their designs or coming into their next generation of designs. When we talk to them, a lot of them really are buying through distribution. Do you expect this to play a major role in how the maturation of these relationships occurs? I mean, has there been a sort of a process of companies getting to a certain size and then maybe being shared with distribution or or moving over to direct purchases? How does this possibly evolve for you?

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

I think we have a distribution strategy that's playing very well for us, and I don't see any change, you know, of that strategy. I think we've got a really strong partnership, and I think that plays very well for the strengths that Arrow brings to the party in terms of the channel and the strengths that we bring in terms of product breadth and so forth. I don't see that changing. Some companies have changed their model to more of a they do their own demand creation across these thousands of customers. Craig, our footprint is just so small. It just wouldn't be viable for us.

We had an opportunity to have one of our sales folks in Europe actually present to our board of directors about an opportunity that she won with a customer in Spain. They did that through Arrow. Arrow's footprint in Spain, I believe, was larger than our footprint in Europe.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, ROTH Capital Markets

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

We have zero employees in Spain. In fact, we don't have anybody to the left of France. I think there's only one person in France. You know, our footprint is really quite small. I think we've got a great strategy. We're sticking with it, and I think we're gonna have this partnership for quite some time.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, ROTH Capital Markets

Well, congratulations on the strong quarter. Thank you.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thank you, Craig.

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Irwin. The next question is from Samik Chatterjee with JP Morgan, and we proceed.

Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I guess just to start off with one on competition that I've been getting from a few investors, that's in relation to onsemi and their purchase of GT Advanced Technologies, a silicon carbide provider. Just wanted to get your thoughts on how that changes the competitive landscape and where do you really see them in terms of capabilities, if you can just share your thoughts on that'll be helpful. I have a follow-up. Thank you.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Sure. Silicon carbide is obviously a super attractive space right now, and there's a lot of companies that are getting into this space. We are the largest provider of silicon carbide wafer materials to the customer base. We have long-term agreements with many different customers in this space. Basically, all of our long-term agreements, well, the vast majority of the long-term agreements that we have are with customers that are also have some kind of internal capability or an internal desire or capability, or desire to have an internal capability. That's true with the vast majority of our long-term suppliers or customers. I think it, you know, strategically, it probably makes sense for them to try to do that.

I think you know this business of silicon carbide materials tends to be a lot harder than a lot of people think. What we're finding typically happens is you know we've had a couple instances already where we have a long-term agreement with a customer, and then they extend it and expand it, you know again. As they see their you know the internal effort just really is difficult. I don't think that changes at all. I think if I were them, I would do the same thing, and I think their strategy makes sense. I think it's you know this growing of silicon carbide is not for the faint of heart. There's lots of tricky things associated with the technology. We spent 30 years doing only this, and I think, you know, we've grown the scale pretty nicely.

Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Yeah. Okay, a quick follow-up with. Right, because the slower ramp on the contract manufacturer, I didn't hear anything, so I don't know if you mentioned it, but can you quantify the amount of revenue that's getting pushed out in your estimate because of that slower ramp?

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

It was in 1 Q. We saw, you know, you think of it as, you know, just like, you know, a few million bucks, not a huge amount. However, I think we've caught that back up, and I think in the estimate that we're looking at, we're seeing some, you know, forward progress on RF, kinda in line with what we saw previously. That kinda gets caught back up, I think, in the new estimate we've given.

Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Sure.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Karl Ackerman with Cowen. You may proceed.

Karl Ackerman
Managing Director, Equity Research, Semiconductors and Storage Hardware, Cowen

Good afternoon. This is [audio distortion].

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Actually, no. It's, it sounds very scrambled. Is there maybe something with your Bluetooth?

Karl Ackerman
Managing Director, Equity Research, Semiconductors and Storage Hardware, Cowen

Is this better?

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah, that's way better. Thank you.

Karl Ackerman
Managing Director, Equity Research, Semiconductors and Storage Hardware, Cowen

Okay. Great. I have two questions for you. The first one going back to the GM contract. You've mentioned some of the multiple EV cars that it will be put into. Could you provide a few more comments on the number of platforms or product design? Then as a follow-up to that, given the increasing amount of design-ins that you've been awarded, including GM, would you expect to more rapidly build out planned capacity at Mohawk?

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thank you for the question, and we can't give any more detail on the GM announcement other than, you know, what was out in the press, so apologize for that. We're excited about it. It is across a number of different vehicles, and, you know, it's a really solid announcement for us. You know, in terms of the ramp-up of capacity, and maybe I'll let Neill talk to it a little bit more. You know, obviously, we're seeing a steepening of the demand right now, and we are, you know, working really hard to satisfy that demand.

It's basically a pull-in and a steeper ramp than we originally had anticipated, and quite frankly, I think that originally than anyone would have anticipated with the demand growing very, very rapidly for not only electric vehicles, but for silicon carbide solutions and EVs and across the industrial market. Maybe Neill, if you wanna give a little bit more color on that.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah. In terms of, like, you know, what we think we can do in terms of bringing on capacity faster, you know, one thing we gotta remember, and I said it earlier, is we're gonna triple the business here just over a few-year period.

If you think about bringing up new factories, particularly like Mohawk Valley, which is a brand-new fab, you just wanna be really careful in terms of the timeframe in which you bring those tools up and start to expand capacity. Between now and 2024, we feel like the plan we've got is the right one, and balances the risks in terms of, you know, bringing up a new fab, obviously at a new diameter. Clearly as we, you know, as we look out beyond that, you know, there is space in Mohawk Valley. Just a little bit over 50% of the clean room kind of is utilized out in that, you know, 2024 timeframe. Obviously we would look to, you know, fill in the rest of that, you know, capacity out beyond then.

You know, in the meantime, I think as we talked about earlier, we've really gotta look for ways to solve the capacity constraints, you know, within the four walls that we already have, and that's really where we're focused right now.

Karl Ackerman
Managing Director, Equity Research, Semiconductors and Storage Hardware, Cowen

Got it. Thank you. My second question, could you discuss some of the opportunities that you see to pass along pricing or mitigate some of the input or freight cost increases that we've seen across the industry, especially with your expanded relationship with Arrow?

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah. I would say there's minimal impact here, and we're in the very early phase of a pretty massive, you know, ramp. Most of our design wins we have either even with the LTA, you know, agreements that we have in place and so forth are, you know, longer-term pricing agreements. I'd say minimal impact there.

Karl Ackerman
Managing Director, Equity Research, Semiconductors and Storage Hardware, Cowen

Great. Thank you, and congrats again.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Ambrish Srivastava with BMO. You may proceed.

Ambrish Srivastava
Senior Research Analyst, BMO

Hi. Thank you. Neill, I had a clarification on the depreciation impact, the positive impact from longer depreciation.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Sure.

Ambrish Srivastava
Senior Research Analyst, BMO

Is that gonna flow through for the next two quarters and beyond as well? I have another clarification please.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Ambrish, let me just reiterate so that we can be as clear as we can on that. Q1, roughly 30 basis points, and incremental one to two points as you get into two quarters , so think about 150 basis points. Then an additional one to two points, you know, that'll bleed in the back half of the year.

Ambrish Srivastava
Senior Research Analyst, BMO

Got it. Thank you. I just wanted to come back to the CapEx and the capacity. Just wanna make sure I understood. In the Durham fab, you're adding capacity as well, right? But the $475 million CapEx is primarily for Mohawk, and there's additional for Durham, or that's the total that you will be spending? It wasn't very clear to me.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

It's $475 million in total. A big piece of that is the final kinda, I'll call them outlays for Mohawk Valley because remember we outlay and then we get reimbursements. We've seen about $60 million or so of reimbursement of the $500 million so far. In Durham, just remember there are two pieces to this. There's the materials factory expansion, and then there's a Durham fab.

In the Durham fab, we've largely completed that execution in terms of bringing up the factory from a MOSFET standpoint. The investment we're making now that's showing up for the remainder of the year is really around the materials expansion for 200 mm in the facility that Greg g mentioned earlier.

Ambrish Srivastava
Senior Research Analyst, BMO

Got it. By 2024, Durham would have what percent of capacity would be Mohawk Valley versus Durham? Then did I hear you say correctly that you would have 50% additional clean room space by then to hit the $1.5 billion? You feel you have sufficient capacity, but then beyond that, you have 50% additional clean room capacity, correct?

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah, I think it's a little more than 50% I think, Ambrish, we'll have filled out, and we'll have, you know, a little less than that, for the remainder of the fab in Mohawk Valley. So there is a period beyond then we could fill in more tools into the clean room in Mohawk Valley. Then, you know, in Durham, you know, we'll just continue to try and drive as much capacity as we can through. We'd expect, you know, a little north of 70% of the device revenue, this total device revenue, you know, coming out of Mohawk Valley as you get out to that 2024, you know, timeframe.

Ambrish Srivastava
Senior Research Analyst, BMO

Got it. Material?

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

All materials will be fully out of Durham. We have, you know, materials capacity that we have today, and then we're fitting out a new facility here on campus, as you talked about in the prepared remarks that will support essentially 200 mm. When we're done, what we'll have is a small amount of 150 mm fab work will be done here in Durham, but materials will be driven through 150 mm that we've got today, but a much larger expansion on 200 mm. We have a, you know, pretty significantly sized 200 mm supply chain through materials in Durham and then fabbing through Mohawk Valley.

Ambrish Srivastava
Senior Research Analyst, BMO

Got it. Thank you very much. I appreciate the color.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Got it.

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Srivastava. The next question comes from the line of Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer. You may proceed.

Colin Rusch
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Oppenheimer

Thanks so much for sneaking us in here, guys. Can you just give us a sense of the mixed content device opportunity number? How much of that is 400 V devices, and how much of that is 800 V plus within that $18 million number that you're talking about?

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah. From a automotive perspective, what you're really talking about there, I believe, is the voltage for the car manufacturer's bus. It's either a 400 V bus or an 800 V bus, and then our devices are actually higher than that to support, you know, those kinds of levels of devices. They can be 750 V or 1200 V, or a variant thereof.

What I would say is, we are winning business both at 400 V and 800 V, and I would say that a lot of our customers are moving and transitioning from a 400 V bus to an 800 V bus for automotive applications. That's primarily because they get better efficiency and they get way better charging, you know, capability as well. There's kind of a transition going on, but we've got wins in both those areas.

Colin Rusch
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Oppenheimer

Great. Just in terms of the qualification process, you guys gave us some detail and just you know starting to work with the tools. In terms of full automotive grade you know qualification on the factory, how far along are you guys with that and you know how is that progressing here? When can we think about you guys really shipping material out of Mohawk Valley that's been fully qualified for the customers?

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Yeah. We will begin qualification, our internal qualification, will be in the first half of the year. When we do that internal qualification, that will pass the automotive qualification requirements. We'll be doing those internal qualifications to the automotive customers' requirements. Then in the back half of the year, the customers will do their own qualification, and that's where they take, you know, qualified devices and put them into their inverters or their equipment and run whatever tests that they need to do on that. That's kind of the process that we'll go through.

Colin Rusch
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Oppenheimer

Perfect. Thanks so much, guys.

Neill Reynolds
CFO, Wolfspeed Inc

Mm-hmm.

Operator

Thank you. I will now pass the call back over to Gregg Lowe with Wolfspeed for closing remarks. You may proceed, Mr. Lowe.

Gregg Lowe
President and CEO, Wolfspeed Inc

Well, thanks a lot everybody for taking the time to visit with us today, and we look forward to continuing to work with you on November 17th at our Investor Day in New York. Thank you very much, and have a good evening.

Operator

That concludes the Wolfspeed, Inc. first quarter fiscal year 2022 earnings call. Thank you for your participation, and enjoy the rest of your day.

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