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Earnings Call: Q4 2021

Mar 1, 2022

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Xenon Pharmaceuticals' 2021 year-end financial results call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star zero. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host, Sherry Aulin, Chief Financial Officer of Xenon Pharmaceuticals. Please go ahead.

Sherry Aulin
CFO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us on our call and webcast to discuss Xenon's year-end 2021 financial and operating results. Joining me are Ian Mortimer, Xenon's President and Chief Executive Officer, Dr. Chris Kenney, Xenon's Chief Medical Officer, and Dr. Chris von Seggern, Xenon's Chief Commercial Officer.

Please be advised that during this call, we will make a number of statements that are forward-looking, including statements regarding the research and clinical development plans and timelines and results of operations, the timing of and results from clinical trials and preclinical development activities of our proprietary and partnered product candidates, the potential efficacy, safety profile, future development plans, addressable market, regulatory success, and commercial potential of our proprietary and partnered product candidates, the anticipated timing of IND or IND equivalent submissions and the initiation of future clinical trials for our proprietary products and those related to other partnered candidates, the efficacy of our clinical trial designs, our ability to successfully develop our proprietary development programs, the timing and results of our and our collaborators' interactions with regulators, the timing and anticipated enrollment in our clinical trials, the potential receipt of milestone payments and royalties from our collaborators, our expectation of having sufficient cash to fund operations into at least 2024, and the timing of potential publication or presentation of future clinical data.

Forward-looking statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control, including the risks and uncertainties described from time to time in our SEC filings. Our results may differ materially from those projected on today's call. We undertake no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements. Today's press release summarizing Xenon's year-end 2021 financial results and the accompanying annual report on Form 10-K will be made available under the Investors section of our website at www.xenon-pharma.com and filed with the SEC and on SEDAR. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Ian.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Sherry. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining our call. Today, I'll provide a high-level update on our partnered and proprietary programs, and then I'll turn the call over to Chris Kenney, who will provide additional color around our plans for XEN1101 moving forward. Sherry will conclude our call by briefly summarizing our financial results and anticipated key milestone events ahead. Chris von Seggern is also on the call to provide his perspective during the Q&A. Overall, when we look back on 2021, we are proud of the significant progress we made across our proprietary drug development pipeline and partnered programs, including the transformational event of the positive readout of strong efficacy data from our XEN1101 phase II-B X-TOLE clinical trial. We enter 2022 with incredible momentum, with multiple mid- to late-stage clinical programs and important milestone opportunities throughout the year, which we'll discuss today.

I'll start by briefly touching on our partnered programs. In November, Pacira Biosciences completed its acquisition of Flexion Therapeutics, along with the rights to develop and commercialize XEN402, a Nav1.7 inhibitor. XEN402 is being formulated for extended release from a thermosensitive hydrogel and is now known as PCRX301. Pacira has indicated that they expect data in the second quarter of this year from a phase I-B proof of concept trial that is evaluating the safety and tolerability of PCRX301 administered as a single dose in patients undergoing bunionectomy. In addition, I'm pleased to report that our partner programs with Neurocrine Biosciences also continue to advance through development.

In January, we received a $15 million regulatory milestone under our collaboration, and Neurocrine now has two separate phase II clinical trials underway evaluating NBI-921352 in adult patients with focal onset seizures and pediatric patients with SCN8A-related epilepsy. We look forward to keeping you updated as these partner programs reach important milestones. Within our proprietary pipeline, we continue to enroll patients in our pediatric XEN496 phase III EPIK clinical trial. This phase III randomized double-blind placebo-controlled parallel group global multi-center clinical trial is evaluating the efficacy, safety, and tolerability of XEN496 in approximately 40 pediatric patients aged one month to less than six years with KCNQ2-DEE. Based on published physician case studies with ezogabine and its Kv7 mechanism of action, we believe that XEN496 has the potential to address an important unmet medical need for these young patients.

As the EPIK trial continues to expand through the onboarding of new sites and new geographical jurisdictions, our clinical team is anticipating the study completion in the first half of 2023. We also continue to make meaningful progress within our XEN1101 program and have spent considerable time since our X-TOLE topline data in October 2021, analyzing and presenting additional subgroup analysis, building out a robust PK/PD model, evaluating interim safety data in the X-TOLE open-label extension study, and completing our planning for our phase III program. This is all in preparation for our anticipated end-of-phase II meeting with FDA in Q2 of this year and expected initiation of our phase III program in the second half of the year. Before passing the call to Chris, we have had some questions recently from investors on the Biohaven cannab preclinical Kv7 deal.

We haven't discussed the XEN1101 preclinical data in some time, but we're happy to provide our perspective as these questions have come up. The first question we've received is the activity of XEN1101 on GABA A. XEN1101 has no activity on GABA A at 10 micromolar. These experiments on XEN1101 have been conducted at established CRO labs and are also included in our regulatory filings supporting our clinical studies. Just to put this into context, 10 micromolar is approximately 50-fold higher than the concentrations we reach clinically. We have no reason to believe that XEN1101 has any GABA activity in a human contributing to either the efficacy or the tolerability of XEN1101. The second question we've received is around in vivo pharmacology and therapeutic index.

Comparison across experiments are always challenging, and the data presented on their Kv7 compound, BHV-7000, is in a different preclinical species and with different toxicological measures than the data they showed for XEN1101 or ezogabine. We have chosen to use a much broader number of preclinical efficacy models, and we focused on data generated in the mouse MES model as the EC50s in this model predicts well the concentrations required to see efficacy in human clinical trials. This has now been validated with both ezogabine and XEN1101. The BHV-7000 efficacy data presented is in the rat MES model. Rats are known to show efficacy in this model at significantly lower concentrations for the Kv7 mechanism than the mouse. We see roughly a four-fold leftward shift in our EC50s in the rat MES model for the Kv7 mechanism.

Bottom line, data generated using different preclinical species and different experimental endpoints cannot be compared. Now moving back to our XEN1101 clinical program. In summary, we have considerable data supporting the role that XEN1101 could play in treating adult patients with focal epilepsy. The X-TOLE clinical results demonstrated substantial efficacy in a difficult to treat patient population with even more impressive efficacy in some subgroup analyses of patients with less severe disease. A tolerability profile consistent with an active CNS drug. Additional clearly differentiating attributes, including an only in class mechanism dosing of one pill once a day with no titration required.

Feedback from KOLs and from our proprietary market research supports our belief that XEN1101 has the potential to significantly improve the current standard of care for patients with residual seizure burden, and if approved, would represent a meaningful advancement in the therapeutic armamentarium for this disease. On that note, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris Kenney, who can provide an update on where we are with our phase III plans for XEN1101 and also on our other phase II proof of concept studies running in parallel. Chris?

Chris Kenney
Chief Medical Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, thanks, Ian. I appreciate it. On our last call, which includes our American Epilepsy Society presentations, we outlined additional encouraging data generated from our deep dive into the X-TOLE data. As we continue to complete additional data analysis, our confidence grows in the high potential we envision for XEN1101 to address important unmet needs. Tomorrow, Dr. Jacqueline French will present an encore presentation of the phase II-B X-TOLE data at the ASENT 2022 annual meeting hosted by the American Society for Experimental NeuroTherapeutics. We also have a second presentation in a poster format summarizing several sub-analyses addressing the impact of disease severity that suggest efficacy may be more robust in patients with less severe disease burden. I encourage you to access these posters on the Xenon website following this event.

Given its robust efficacy along with an AE profile in line with other anti-seizure medications, we're excited to move forward with our phase III plans for XEN1101. We remain on track to conduct an end of phase II meeting with FDA during the second quarter of this year. This meeting represents a key milestone for our XEN1101 program. The objectives for this meeting are to obtain agreement on our phase III program and the overall data package needed for NDA filing. We will also discuss with FDA the opportunity for X-TOLE to be considered a pivotal trial. We anticipate that our future development plans include two phase III trials in adult focal epilepsy, with the first of these phase III trials in the second half of the year.

After the end of phase II meeting, we intend to engage European regulators through scientific advice to obtain their agreement on the XEN1101 phase III program. In addition to focal epilepsy, we're evaluating other epilepsy indications and expect to outline our plans in the coming months. Preclinical and clinical evidence exists around the Kv7 mechanism that supports a strong scientific rationale for developing XEN1101 in major depressive disorder, or MDD.

We continue to support our collaboration with the School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. Patient enrollment is underway with their investigator-sponsored phase II proof of concept, placebo-controlled clinical trial of XEN1101 in approximately 60 patients for the treatment of major depressive disorder and anhedonia. In addition, an investigational new drug or IND application has been submitted to FDA to support our plans for a larger Xenon-sponsored clinical study in MDD with XEN1101, which is expected to be initiated in the first half of this year. We look forward to providing the finalized trial design once the IND has been cleared and the study initiated. Overall, we've made tremendous progress on our XEN1101 program, and we look forward to initiating the phase II MDD trial in the near term, followed by our phase III program in focal epilepsy, targeted for the second half of this year.

I'd now like to ask Sherry to summarize our financial position and briefly recap our upcoming milestones. Sherry?

Sherry Aulin
CFO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Chris. I'm excited to see the immense amount of momentum in our business as we continue to prudently manage Xenon's operations. As noted on our last quarterly call, I believe Xenon's well-capitalized to support our business objectives, the advancement of our clinical development programs, as well as our preclinical and discovery programs. I'll briefly touch on the highlights from this year's financial statements. Cash and cash equivalents and marketable securities as of December 31, 2021 were $551.8 million, compared to $177 million as of December 31, 2020. Subsequent to year-end, we achieved a $15 million regulatory milestone under our collaboration with Neurocrine Biosciences.

Based on current assumptions, which include fully supporting the planned XEN1101 and XEN496 clinical development programs, as well as preclinical and discovery programs, we anticipate having sufficient cash to fund operations into at least 2024, excluding any revenue generated from existing partnerships or potential new partnering arrangements. I'd refer you to our news release and 10-K report filed today for further details from our financial statements. Looking ahead, there are a number of key objectives and milestone opportunities in our pipeline. As noted by Chris, we anticipate conducting an end-of-phase II meeting with the FDA in the second quarter of 2022 to support the initiation of our phase III development program for XEN1101 expected in the second half of the year.

Post our end of phase II meeting and receipt of final FDA minutes, we anticipate being in a position to share our final phase III plans for XEN1101. In parallel, we'll continue to evaluate and plan for an XEN1101 program in another epilepsy indication and expect to be in a position to outline our plans in the coming months. We'll provide continued support for the ongoing investigator-led study examining XEN1101 in MDD and expect to initiate our own company-sponsored MDD clinical study in the near term with our IND recently filed. With the ongoing advancement of our EPIK phase III clinical trial in pediatric patients with KCNQ2-DEE, our team is striving towards study completion in the first half of 2023. Finally, we look forward to providing updates on any key milestones reached within our partnered programs with Neurocrine and Pacira BioSciences.

In conclusion, I echo Ian's comment that 2021 proved to be a transformative year for Xenon. On behalf of the entire team, we're energized and driven to continue this momentum. We look forward to keeping you up to date on our progress with multiple phase II and phase III clinical trials anticipated this year, and in particular, our advancements in our XEN1101 program. I'll now ask the operator to open the line for any questions.

Operator

Our first question comes from Paul Matteis with Stifel.

Speaker 13

Hey, thanks for taking our question. This is Alex in for Paul. I was just hoping you could provide maybe a little bit more detail on sort of the hooks to patentability for your new patents for XEN1101 related to food effect and polymorphs. Maybe walk through some of the key features there and maybe some precedent related to preventing infringement from these patents. Thanks.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Alex. Happy to answer that question. As you mentioned, and we've talked about this on previous calls, we've had some good success on the patent front in 2021, and we had U.S. issued patents and claims on both food effect and polymorph, the two that you referenced. On the food effect, this was something that wasn't anticipated early in development, but XEN1101 clearly does have a food effect. It's multi-fold on Cmax and AUC, and so it was something that we had filed. Now, all of the efficacy data that we've generated for XEN1101 to date, so the X-TOLE study, the one pill once a day was taken in the evening in proximity with the evening meal.

We expect that to be continued development as we move forward, and that would be something on label, and now we've got IP covering that. On the polymorph side, over the last number of years, we've done extensive polymorph screening to elucidate the number of polymorphs of the drug and to file on that, and that covers obviously the form that's in development and will be approved. We now have issued claims covering the compositional polymorphs as well for XEN1101.

These two sets of kind of new intellectual property that have been granted over the past number of months in the summer and fall of 2021 would take the exclusivity for XEN1101 out to 2039-2040, absent any extensions of term from that point.

Speaker 13

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Abrahams with RBC Capital Markets.

Speaker 11

Hi. Thanks. This is Leo in for Brian. I know you guys get a lot of questions on which doses you're gonna take forward, so I'd actually like to stay with that for just a minute. I guess, you know, my question is would you consider taking a dose that you haven't explicitly tested in the phase II forward, but one that's intermediate, such as the 15 milligram dose? It sounds like you've got some of that exposure mapping work in hand now. You know, I'm kind of curious, what are the final considerations that you're sort of working through before you decide on committing a dose?

When you meet with the FDA, are you gonna have the two doses that you're thinking of in that meeting, or are you sort of gonna shape that based on their feedback as well? Thanks.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Leo. Good question. Chris Kenney, maybe I'll make a couple of high-level comments, and then you can dig in a little bit deeper. Obviously, we haven't yet publicly talked about the doses that we anticipate taking forward, but as you mentioned, we have done a lot of work, including some detailed PK/PD modeling. The expectation is to take two doses into phase III. So the phase III studies would have two active doses and placebo. But I'll let Chris go into greater detail as he kind of thinks about the dose range. Obviously we studied three doses in the phase II program, but Chris and his team have done a lot of work on thinking on dose selection for phase III.

Chris Kenney
Chief Medical Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, thanks, Ian. I mean, the bottom line is that we're gonna, you know, come out publicly with exactly what the plan is once it's been vetted by FDA. We have a very good idea what we wanna do, but we just wanna go through that step before, you know, bringing it out to the public. I mean, if you take a look at the phase II data, you could make an argument that really anything between 10 milligrams and 25 milligrams could be brought forward into phase III. You know, if you take a look at the, I mean, in terms of the factors that we'll weigh in on that, Ian, in his presentation, talked about PK/PD modeling. Obviously, that's part of the picture.

You know, the heavier weight is being put on sort of safety and efficacy from the actual phase II data. As I've said before, I mean, I think, you know, we're in a luxury situation where any of those doses could be brought forward into phase III, anything between 10 to 25 milligrams. We'll appreciate the enthusiasm, but we're gonna, you know, be happy to go public with everything once it's been vetted by the agency.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Operator, if we can go to the next question.

Operator

Yes, sir. Our next question is from Andrew Tsai with Jefferies.

Andrew Tsai
Managing Director, Jefferies

Okay, thanks, good afternoon. You know, obviously you're meeting with the FDA in Q2, and you've kind of outlined your kind of base case scenario as it relates to, you know, the phase III next steps. I'm curious, in this you know, upcoming FDA meeting, do you guys have an upside scenario in terms of the outcome, if there's one, or even a downside scenario? Anything that you can share. Thanks.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Andrew. Yeah, I'll provide some comments. And Chris Kenney, you should provide your perspective as well. I think, you know, we've talked often with investors that there's a lot of things that we need to have a discussion with the FDA and make sure that we're aligned, but I don't think there's any kind of big binary questions that we're going in with. Chris talked about in his prepared remarks that we think we have good arguments that X-TOLE may be considered a pivotal study, so we'll have that conversation. But our base case is that we're running two phase III clinical trials regardless. Although lots to talk about, I'm not sure we really go into it, Andrew, thinking about, you know, kind of a base case or an upside case.

We're really planning for the phase III program that we think is appropriate for the drug and what's gonna be required to get the drug approved and what the NDA package will look like. Chris, do you wanna add to that?

Chris Kenney
Chief Medical Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, I mean, I think that what Ian's said just now is a reflection that, you know, we have no intention of cutting any corners. We wanna develop the drug properly so that it has a really good chance of being approved within, you know, as quickly as possible. I don't think that there's anything that's particularly challenging about that interaction. We do, you know, getting X-TOLE to be considered pivotal will provide some optionality. I guess if I were to pick an upside, I would choose that. Either way, we're gonna be doing two additional studies.

Andrew Tsai
Managing Director, Jefferies

Thanks. A follow-up on the MDD program, depression program that's you know that you filed an IND. It's more of a kind of a high level question is just that, you know, ezogabine being the predecessor drug, you know, approved for epilepsy. It has shown benefits, signals in, you know, an open label as well as placebo-controlled study for MDD. Now that we know from X-TOLE that XEN1101 is indeed more potent and more efficacious in epilepsy, you know, shouldn't that, you know, could that be the same case in MDD, basically? Thanks.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Chris, do you wanna answer that?

Chris Kenney
Chief Medical Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, sure. I mean, we're obviously enthusiastic about this path because we have an investigator-initiated study ongoing and then even a larger sponsor-initiated trial. The enthusiasm comes in terms of the mechanism being interesting in MDD in and of itself, and then in particular, as it may relate to patients with epilepsy who have mood dysfunction. You know, you look at the data, you have preclinical data that suggests that the drug should be active in depressive models, and then you have the ezogabine story and the bridge, as you already pointed out, between efficacy in MDD and FOS and then our focal onset seizure data. So I think that, you know, the chance of success, you know, might be better than the typical POC, but who knows?

You never know until you're at the end of the day.

Andrew Tsai
Managing Director, Jefferies

Thanks. Take care.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Marc Goodman with SVB Leerink.

Speaker 12

Hi. Thanks. This is Maddy for Marc. Just a couple quick ones from us today. You mentioned previously that you're expecting a more formal cut of the X-TOLE open label extension data sometime before your end of phase II meeting with the FDA. Could we expect to see that data sometime in the next few months still? Secondly, just wondering if the Biohaven announcement caused you to rethink or revisit any part of your development plan for XEN1101. Thanks.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, thanks for the questions. On the X-TOLE open label data, yeah, we have looked at some of that data, as it relates, as you mentioned, to the end of phase II meeting. That's really focused on the safety aspects of that data, and we haven't done any analyses of efficacy, but that's kind of on our list of things that we will continue to get at. No current plans, meaning we haven't submitted an abstract to any medical or scientific meetings in terms of providing any of the X-TOLE OLE data. I do think that that'll be something that we'll absolutely submit and share at the appropriate meeting in the future, so we can look forward to that.

On the Biohaven announcement, you know, we had a couple of comments earlier just because we've received a number of questions on Friday and over the weekend and yesterday. No, it doesn't change anything in terms of our plans. We're very comfortable in the profile of XEN1101 and obviously we're significantly ahead. There is no other Kv7 modulator activator in development in clinical studies right now. Nothing's changed on our side and our focus to move XEN1101 into the phase III program and generate data in MDD as well.

Speaker 12

Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Yatin Suneja with Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead.

Yatin Suneja
Managing Director and Biotechnology Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Hey, guys. Two quick ones for me. Did you speak about the size of the phase III studies? Apologize if I missed it. Also, what would be the time point of an endpoint? It'll be eight-week and 12-week? I have a follow-up.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Sure. Chris, do you wanna answer those two quick ones?

Chris Kenney
Chief Medical Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, sure. I mean, we haven't gone public with the details, but the spirit of our phase III studies will be as follows. X-TOLE worked. The data was robust. There was a nice separation between active and placebo. If it's working, there's no need to fix it. As we go forward into phase III, we're gonna only bring forward two doses. Ian's already said that. That will be one difference. In terms of the general size of the study, number of sites, et cetera, try to keep it as similar. Don't wanna deviate from the plan that already worked.

The other exception in terms of a change has to do outside of going from three doses to two, the other exception is that the duration of the double-blind period will be 12 weeks, as you've pointed out, for both phase III studies.

Yatin Suneja
Managing Director and Biotechnology Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Got it. Are you waiting for EMA feedback, given that the European requires a little bit of a different endpoint, before you initiate the studies?

Chris Kenney
Chief Medical Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Ian, I'm not sure what's public on that, so I think maybe you should field that.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Often, as we know, European regulators are focusing on the responder analysis. You know, again, we haven't gone through all the detailed phase III protocol synopsis, but we will be looking at MPC and RR50 as we did in X-TOLE. We'll have all of that data. I wouldn't say yet in that the scientific advice is gating to getting the phase III trial up and running, but it'll follow, you know, with not a lot of time after the end of phase II meeting. The phase III program, as we said, we'd like to be up and running and initiated the phase III trial within the second half of the year.

Yatin Suneja
Managing Director and Biotechnology Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Okay. Just final question for me. Assuming you initiate these studies in the second half, is X-TOLE a good proxy of the timeline within which you can complete these studies? Maybe just tell us, you know, how long it might take for you to run these studies.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. I think X-TOLE is probably a reasonable proxy. You know, kind of a couple of things that people may want to take into consideration as they think about the timeline, is so from a sizing point of view, as we've talked about, there's probably not a big difference between the phase III trial and X-TOLE as we compare that, and Chris has mentioned both in terms of the size, but number of sites as well. You know, obviously the challenge we had for those that have followed the company for some time, is we did have a COVID impact on recruiting and screening of patients during X-TOLE.

Obviously, you know, we can't predict the future, but definitely the second part of the study of X-TOLE recruited much better than those months in 2020 early on in the pandemic. Obviously we now have clinical efficacy, so we have an opportunity to talk to investigators about that. Yeah, overall it's probably not a bad proxy because it is a similar size study to the X-TOLE trial.

Yatin Suneja
Managing Director and Biotechnology Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Very good. Thanks, Ian.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Thank you.

Operator

Thanks. Your next question comes from Tim Lugo with William Blair.

Lachlan Hanbury-Brown
Biotech Equity Research Analyst, William Blair

Hey, this is Lachlan on for Tim. Thanks for taking the questions. We had a couple questions just about somnolence in X-TOLE. Can you maybe just remind us sort of what you saw there and what is, I guess, typical or standard with other anti-seizure medications? On the partnered programs with Neurocrine, are you able to provide any more sort of granularity on when in 2023 that data might come or how enrollment is going?

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Oh, thanks, Lachlan. Chris, I'll answer the question on Neurocrine, and then you wanna address the question on somnolence.

Chris Kenney
Chief Medical Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Sure.

On the partner programs, yeah, we're really, Lachlan, guided by the guidance that Neurocrine provides. They are just to be clear, I know we've talked about it previously. They are running the program and paying for the program and are in control of it. Two phase II trials are up and running. The only one they've given guidance on is the adult focal epilepsy study that they expect to have data in 2023. They haven't narrowed the guidance more than just during the calendar year. That study is up and running and recruiting. In the pediatric epilepsy, that is also running and recruiting, but they haven't given guidance on when they would expect top-line data.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

As they narrow that guidance going forward, then we can update you there. Chris, pass it to you on somnolence.

Chris Kenney
Chief Medical Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. I was trying to look up the exact number 'cause I don't want to misquote it. I mean, the more common adverse event was dizziness and I just don't wanna quote what the number was with somnolence. There was a little bit of an imbalance in terms of active versus placebo. I believe it was hovering, you know, under 10%, and there was a bit of a dose response as there was with dizziness. In terms of, you know, its comparison to other ASMs, we thought that it was very much in line with other anti-seizure medications.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Chris, I was just looking at the AE tables as well, and somnolence actually was overall about 15%. It was quite a bit less than dizziness. Actually, we saw about that same level of somnolence in the high dose group of 25 milligrams at approximately 15%.

Lachlan Hanbury-Brown
Biotech Equity Research Analyst, William Blair

Got it. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from David Wong with SMBC.

David Wong
Analyst, SMBC

Hey, thanks for taking the question. So I just had, you know, maybe a little bit of a kind of a big picture question. You know, the focal epilepsy landscape may change a bit near term. I think, you know, UCB's Vimpat may lose exclusivity and go generic. XEN1101, you know, there's still a bit of time before it potentially comes to market. Just given that landscape and that shift, how are you thinking about down the line potentially positioning for the best commercial launch out of the gates?

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, David. I think that's a really important question on how XEN1101 could fit into the focal epilepsy landscape. Chris von Seggern, can you jump in and provide your perspective?

Chris von Seggern
Chief Commercial Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, absolutely. Vimpat's expected to lose exclusivity later this month, and correspondingly, we anticipate that product will move up in lines of therapy based on being one of multiple products that would be used in a generic environment before moving on to branded agents. It does leave behind a massive hole to fill from a commercial space. When you think about the other available branded agents, none have nearly the reach that Vimpat does from a commercial standpoint. When we think about the profile of XEN1101, it has a combination of safety and efficacy attributes that will make it very competitive for the add-on agent of choice within that first branded market, which is predominantly where Vimpat stands today.

We view the loss of exclusivity of Vimpat as one that will shift the nature of the standard of care early lines of treatment, but actually create a significant opportunity from commercial products downstream, which is likely where we'll be used.

David Wong
Analyst, SMBC

Okay. Thanks so much.

Operator

Thanks.

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, David.

Operator

Next question comes from Antonia Borovina with Bloom Burton.

Antonia Borovina
Managing Director, Bloom Burton

Hello. Thanks for taking my question. Most of mine have been asked already, so maybe just a follow-up to the earlier commentary. Can you maybe speak to how XEN1101 would fit in the treatment landscape, given its profile and the Kv7 mechanism in MDD? Just briefly on your discovery programs. When can we expect you to announce some additional programs, and do you plan to stick to epilepsies, or would you focus on neurology more broadly?

Ian Mortimer
President and CEO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Antonia. I'll address the discovery one, and then, Chris von Seggern, if you wanna provide your perspective on the MDD market and the need and where a drug with a profile like XEN1101 could fit. I know it's early days, but we can probably provide some high-level commentary. On the discovery portfolio, as many of you know, we have a very active drug discovery group, and a number of targets that we're interested in. Antonia, I would say broadly we're interested in neurology. We have had a focus on epilepsy.

Some of you will have seen our data that we've presented at meetings on a target called Nav1.1, where we're looking at activators of that target that could be used in epilepsy indications such as Dravet syndrome, and we have some very interesting preclinical data there. Obviously, we have a large Kv backup effort now where we have backup molecules that over the next couple of years will go into clinical development that could either give us a lot of options in the clinic, either from an LCM point of view or looking at different therapeutic indications as well. We have different ideas on how to interrogate the target as we move forward. We have a big effort there.

There's a number of other targets that we like and we're working on that we just haven't talked about publicly yet. I would say we have broad efforts pre-clinically, and you'll see a number of molecules transition from our discovery portfolio into the clinic over the next few years. Chris, on MDD?

Chris von Seggern
Chief Commercial Officer, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, absolutely. The MDD marketplace is as complex, if not more complex than the epilepsy space, but has some similarities in terms of the treatment paradigm. There are entrenched standard of care products that are used early in lines of therapy, SSRIs, SNRIs, that address a portion of the patient population, but leave a sizable percentage of patients who require additional efficacy, either in an add-on adjunctive environment or as downstream monotherapy treatment. We envision the profile for XEN1101 to be quite competitive in later lines of therapy, where patients often turn to products that have alternative mechanisms of action with equivalent or comparable efficacy profiles.

What you're looking for is a mechanistic approach that's either complementary to the SSRIs, SNRIs or something that is an alternative for patients who require additional efficacy or have safety or tolerability issues with earlier lines of therapy. That is a small patient population, and one that is going to be increasingly competitive as additional products move forward.

Antonia Borovina
Managing Director, Bloom Burton

Thanks for the clarification.

Operator

Thank you. With that, we end the Q&A session for today. I will turn the call back to Sherry Aulin for final remarks.

Sherry Aulin
CFO, Xenon Pharmaceuticals

On behalf of the Xenon team, thank you everyone for joining us on our 2021 financial results conference call.

Operator

With that, ladies and gentlemen, we conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.

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