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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Sep 8, 2022

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Zumiez Inc.'s second quarter fiscal 2022 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. We will conduct a question and answer session towards the end of this conference. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone of the company's safe harbor language. Today's conference call includes comments concerning Zumiez Inc.'s business outlook and contains forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements, and all other statements that may be made on this call, are not based on historical facts and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially. Additional information concerning a number of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the information that will be discussed is available in Zumiez filings with the SEC.

At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Rick Brooks, Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Brooks, the call, the conference is yours.

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

Hello, and thank you everyone for joining us on the call. With me today is Chris Work, our Chief Financial Officer. I'll begin today's call with a few remarks about the second quarter and back to school. Before I hand the call over to Chris, who will take you through our financial results and outlook in more detail. After that, we'll open the call to your questions. Reflecting back on this time last year, the U.S. portion of our business was benefiting from several very strong tailwinds. The U.S. consumer was primed to spend with a wallet fortified by another round of government stimulus and further enabled by local economies more broadly reopening after many months of closure. Zumiez, fresh off a record first quarter in 2021, posted the best second quarter in the company's history as we captured our fair share of that outsized demand.

Over the past 12 months, those tailwinds have dissipated. Headwinds have materialized and then intensified, particularly in our U.S. business. On top of the difficult sales comparison a year ago, the operating environment has become increasingly more challenging due to lingering supply chain disruptions, higher logistics costs, a tight labor market, negative foreign currency exchange impacts, and most acutely, high levels of inflation leading to intense competition for declining discretionary dollars. While each of these factors was incorporated into our outlook for this quarter and thoughts on the year, inflationary pressure on the consumer intensified as the quarter unfolded. Beyond the macroeconomic factors, we've also continued to feel the pressure of skate hardgoods declines on the business as well as a push to more value added offerings away from our higher price point branded product.

The combination of these factors led to our sales coming in $12 million beneath the bottom of our expected range. This sales shortfall, coupled with inflationary cost pressures, only partially offset by other savings during the quarter, resulted in earnings well below our stated range. We're disappointed that our recent performance fell short of expectations. As we mentioned last quarter, we intend to remain flexible and agile in adjusting inventory, expense, and capital allocation plans based on any changes in the macroeconomic environment. We are actively adjusting our merchandise assortments and managing expenses in order to better position ourselves for the current operating environment. While comparisons do begin to moderate in the back half of the year, based on recent trends, we believe it is prudent to adopt a more cautious view on the remainder of 2022 that accounts for the increased pressure we've seen on the consumer.

Despite the challenges with our business, there were bright spots on the quarter, including Fast Times in Australia performing exceptionally well to our plan. Product margins remaining strong. While they were down slightly from the prior year, we have not given back the vast majority of gains we've made over the past few years, that our teams are able to mitigate the challenging operating environment as well as the negative country and product mix impacts. Inventory was managed very well with an overall foreign exchange adjusted increase of only 4.4%. Substantial work was completed on long-term initiatives, including the opening of 34 new stores across our business since this same time last year. While the current environment has caused a near-term pause on our quarterly sales growth, our focus remains on creating long-term shareholder value.

Zumiez' four-decade history of adept management through multiple business and fashion cycles, coupled with our strong balance sheet, gives me confidence that this slowdown is temporary. We've been through recessionary cycles before, and our experience has been that we lead into them, given the discretionary nature of our business and the impact of tough economic times on our customer base. 2008, 2009, we saw annual comparable sales down 6.5% and 10% respectively, only to be followed by comparable sales increases of 11.9%, 8.7%, and 5% over 2010, 2011, and 2012 respectively. Our customer-centric strategy and strong brand and culture are a driving force towards sustainable growth over time.

Our brand partnerships that enable unique self-expression for our customers, our enviable footprint that informs us of global trends, our omnichannel organization that allows us to create synergies across sales channels, and our business model that gives our customers full control of their shopping experience will continue to differentiate Zumiez in this challenging environment. That differentiation will allow us to capture new opportunities and emerge as an even stronger competitor when these market forces subside. That, I'll turn the call to Chris to discuss the financials.

Chris Work
CFO, Zumiez Inc

Thanks, Rick, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm gonna start with a review of our second quarter results. I'll then provide an update on our third quarter to date sales trends before providing some perspective on how we're thinking about the full year. Second quarter net sales were $220 million, down 18.1% from $268.7 million in the second quarter of 2021, and down 3.7% from $228.4 million in the second quarter of 2019. Excluding the impact of foreign currency translation, net sales were down 16.4% compared with the prior year, and down 3% compared to 2019.

The year-over-year decrease in sales was primarily driven by the benefits from domestic stimulus in the prior year, as well as increased macroeconomic headwinds as inflation weighed on consumer discretionary spending during the current year quarter. From a regional perspective, North America net sales were $189.9 million, a decrease of 20.1% from 2021, and down 8.2% compared with the same period in 2019. Other international net sales, which consists of Europe and Australia, were $30.1 million, down 3.4% from last year, and up 40.2% from pre-pandemic levels in 2019. Excluding the impact of foreign currency translation, North America net sales decreased 19.8%, and other international net sales increased 10% compared to 2021.

From a category perspective, all categories were down in total sales from the prior year during the quarter, with men's being our most negative, followed by hard goods, accessories, women's and footwear. Second quarter gross profit was $75.1 million, compared to $105 million in the second quarter of last year, and $77.2 million in the second quarter of 2019. Gross margin as a percentage of sales was 34.1% for the quarter compared with 39.1% in the second quarter of 2021, and 33.8% in the second quarter of 2019.

While product margins were strong in most geographies on full price selling this quarter, the sales mix shift away from our higher margin U.S. business overshadowed this impact at the company level, resulting in a mix-driven decrease of 17 basis points. The 500 basis point decrease in gross margin was primarily driven by lower sales in the quarter, driving deleverage in our fixed costs, as well as rate increases in several areas. Store occupancy costs deleveraged by 220 basis points on lower sales volumes. Shrink increased by 120 basis points as we saw a return to more normalized pre-pandemic levels. Web shipping costs increased by 80 basis points, and distribution center costs deleveraged by 70 basis points.

SG&A expense was $70.1 million or 31.8% of net sales in the second quarter, compared to $73 million or 27.2% of net sales a year ago, and $65.5 million or 28.7% of net sales in 2019. Compared to 2021, the 460 basis point increase in SG&A expense as a percent of net sales resulted from the following. 290 basis points in our store wages, tied to both deleverage on lower sales as well as wage rate increases. 90 basis points related to other store operating costs, primarily impacted by lower sales levels. 90 basis points in corporate costs, and 90 basis points in non-store wages.

These increases were partially offset by a 110 basis point decrease in legal costs due to a settlement recorded in the second quarter of 2021. Operating income in the second quarter of 2022 was $5 million or 2.3% of net sales, compared to $32 million or 11.9% of net sales last year. In the second quarter of 2019, we had an operating profit of $11.7 million or 5.1% of net sales. Net income for the second quarter was $3.1 million or $0.16 per diluted share.

This compares to net income of $24 million or $0.94 per diluted share for the second quarter of 2021, and net income of $9 million or $0.36 per diluted share for the second quarter of 2019. Our effective tax rate for the second quarter of 2022 was 44.7% compared with 26.8% a year ago period, and 30.7% in 2019. The tax rate in the quarter is inflated due primarily to the allocation of income across entities and the exclusion of net losses in certain jurisdictions. We expect our annual tax rate for the year to be approximately 31%. Turning to the balance sheet, the business ended the quarter in a strong financial position.

We had cash and current marketable securities of $166.2 million as of July 30th, 2022, compared to $412 million as of July 31st, 2021. The $245.8 million decrease in cash and current marketable securities over the trailing twelve months was driven primarily by share repurchases of $271.2 million, resulting in a reduction of shares outstanding over the last year of 23.6%. We also had capital expenditures of $20.6 million, partially offset by cash generated through operations of $58.7 million. As of July 30th, 2022, we had no debt on the balance sheet and continue to maintain our full unused credit lines.

We ended the quarter with $151.1 million in inventory, up 1.1% compared with $149.4 million last year. On a constant currency basis, our inventory levels were up 4% from last year. Second quarter of 2022 inventory was flat to our second quarter of 2019 inventory. Overall, the inventory on hand is healthy and selling at a favorable margin. Now to our third quarter to date results. Net sales for the 37-day period ending September 5th, 2022, decreased 18.1% compared to the same 37-day period in the prior year ending September 6th, 2021.

Compared to the 37-day period ending September 9th, 2019, net sales decreased 12.6%. Comparable sales for the 37-day period ended September 5th, 2022 were down 19.7% for the comparable period in the prior year and decreased 15.3% from the comparable period in 2019. From a regional perspective, net sales for our North America business for the 37-day period in September 5th, 2022 decreased 19.5% over the comparable period last year and were down 15.4% compared to the 37-day period ended September 9th, 2019. Meanwhile, our other international business decreased 2.7% versus last year and increased 25.1% compared with the same period of 2019.

Excluding the impact of foreign currency translation, North America net sales decreased 19.4% and other international net sales increased 11.9% compared with 2021. From a category perspective, all categories were down for the third quarter to date. Men's was our largest negative category, followed by hard goods, women's accessories and footwear. With respect to our outlook, I wanna remind everyone that formulating our guidance involves some inherent uncertainty and complexity in estimating sales, product margin and earnings growth given the variety of internal and external factors that impact our performance. With that in mind, we are currently expecting that total sales for the third quarter of fiscal 2022 will be between $220 million and $228 million.

Consolidated operating profit as a percent of sales for the third quarter is expected to be between 0.5% and 2.5%, and we anticipate diluted earnings per share will be roughly $0.03-$0.18. Now, I want to give you a few updated thoughts on how we're looking at fiscal 2022. With the first half of 2022 behind us, we are more cautious in how we're looking at the full year and the potential impacts of the current operating environment, including inflationary pressures on the consumer discretionary spending. While comparisons do begin to moderate in the back half of the year, based on recent trends, we believe it's prudent to adopt a more cautious view on the remainder of 2022 that balances the headwinds we are facing.

We now anticipate total sales will be down in the 18%-19% range in 2022 as compared to 2021. This is inclusive of our third quarter guidance and anticipates further pressure in the fourth quarter, given the outsized inflation concerns in the current market and current trend lines. In fiscal 2021, we achieved peak product margins once again, representing our sixth year in a row of product margin expansion. As we have moved through the first half of the year, we have closely managed inventory and seen only a slight decline in product margin despite inflationary pressures and mixed pressures between categories and across countries. We currently believe we will continue to see some product margin erosion in the third and fourth quarter and are planning the back half to be down slightly to the prior year. We continue to manage costs across the business.

However, with our current sales projections, we are anticipating deleverage across our fixed costs of the business. We currently anticipate year-over-year operating profit dollars will be down approximately 73%-77% for fiscal 2022 on the drop in sales, inflationary cost pressures and the return to normal for items like mall hours and training and events. Diluted earnings per share for the full year is currently planned to decrease less than operating profit related to the share repurchases earlier in the year. We currently anticipate 2022 diluted earnings per share to be between $1.30 and $1.55. We are currently planning our business assuming an annual effective tax rate of approximately 31%. We are planning to open approximately 35 new stores during the year, including approximately 16 in North America, 14 stores in Europe and five stores in Australia.

We expect capital expenditures for the full 2022 fiscal year to be between $29 million and $31 million, compared to $16 million in 2021, with the majority of the increase tied to the addition of stores in 2022. We expect that depreciation and amortization, excluding non-cash lease expense, will be approximately $21.5 million, down slightly from the prior year. We are currently projecting our share count for the full year to be approximately 19.5 million diluted shares. With that operator, we'd like to open the call up for questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder to ask the question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. That's star one one to ask the question. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Your line is open.

Sharon Zackfia
Partner and Head of Consumer Equity Research, William Blair

Hi. Good afternoon. I guess firstly a question on the October quarter guidance relative to the current trend. It's obviously assuming kind of a greater fall off, and I'm curious if that's kind of what you've seen already as back to school has kind of ebbed. I know you tend to do much better when there's kind of peak shopping periods, so I'm wondering if that's informing the guidance.

Chris Work
CFO, Zumiez Inc

Sure. I'll go ahead and take that, Sharon. Obviously, we're seeing quite a few different things happening in the business right now. I mean, as you know, as we've kind of lived through this rollercoaster of the last few years and as we're thinking about kind of what's happened here in the back to school time, just with the pressure on the consumer tied to, you know, higher levels of inflation and the competition. We're seeing a shift away from, you know, our higher priced brands to value. We continue to see challenges, as we mentioned in our prepared remarks around skate and the negative impact of FX, not to mention some of the more, you know, higher level political challenges, you know, like the war in Ukraine and other things that are impacting supply chain.

You know, I think I'll talk about the quarter here in a sec, but just kind of to further add some commentary on just what we're seeing as we kind of look at the business. I think we're definitely seeing, you know, credit card spend has increased pretty meaningfully here. As we think about just the domestic business, we're seeing an increase not only in store that's pretty dramatic with all of the offset really coming from our, you know, debit card and cash spend. We're also seeing an increase on web that's kind of giving way from other forms of payment. Then, as we talked about kind of this value product or our private label offering has really seen a spike.

We're up almost 450 basis points through the first six months of the year in regards to a percentage of overall sales. You know, all of that is kind of playing into how we're thinking about the guidance. You know, as we think about the Q3 guidance, particularly, you know, we saw pretty soft results really across the quarter or across the period to date, I should say, in back to school. So as we think about how we're planning Q3, we're actually planning to see a little more drop off here in the domestic business. I think it'll be a little tougher than the current trend lines.

Internationally, we're expecting to hold the trend lines better about where we're at through the first five weeks is sort of how our planning is played out. I think on the expense side of the business, where we are planning product margins down in Q3, we started to see some further fall off through the back-to-school timeline. Although, I do wanna reiterate, you know, we continue to be what I believe is a full price, full margin retailer. We've been, you know, really strong margins. If we look at our margins to 2019, we're still significantly ahead of where we were pre-pandemic. While we've seen a little bit of a backdrop to 2021, that was our sixth year in a row of positive product margin gains.

We're feeling really good about how the teams are managing inventory and how they're managing product margin. I think the bigger part of our gross margin decline that's factored into the guidance is really tied to some of the things that have hit us in the first six months of the year. We're seeing deleverage and cost pressure, specifically around, you know, occupancy and distribution and shipping costs. On the SG&A side, we also are showing deleverage. Again, a large portion of this tied to store wages and store costs. As with those types of sales declines, we're gonna see some pressure there. Then on, you know, on the general corporate SG&A as well, we'll see some deleverage there. That's kinda how we thought about Q3.

Sharon Zackfia
Partner and Head of Consumer Equity Research, William Blair

Thanks for that. I know you kind of put a lot of numbers out there very quickly, but I think, you know, I benchmark a lot still to 2019 just because the last few years have been very odd. If I think about the third quarter operating margin guidance relative to 2019, I think it's down, you know, maybe 700-800 basis points. It sounds as if the fourth quarter, it's gonna be more like maybe 600 basis points delta. Is that some sort of cost savings you're putting in, or is there something more favorable happening with margins? I'm just trying to reconcile a bit of that kind of narrowing of the gap, if you will, sequentially in the quarters.

Chris Work
CFO, Zumiez Inc

Sure. Yeah, totally a fair question. I think it's, you know, as we're thinking about Q4, we're also, as our annual guidance or our annual thoughts imply that, you know, we're thinking Q4 is going to continue to be tough based on the current trend lines. It's not quite planned at the same level that what we've shown for Q3. In fact, we are showing that we get a little bit better really across all entities heading into Q4. I think that's just really based on, you know, where our overall performance was last year. We did have some pretty important closures in Q4 last year that we're not expecting it to happen again this year.

As we think about kind of the trend lines of the business, we've been pretty clear the US has been our toughest operating area at this point, and the penetration of international really grows in Q4. It ends up being about 21% of the business versus 16% of the business in Q4. We are seeing, as Rick pointed out, Australia has been really strong. Europe has been performing stronger than the US, as has Canada. We're not seeing as much of a business part of the business tied to domestic. I do think there's probably a few other trend lines that we think will be stronger in Q4. In relation to your question, I think, you know, we're expecting sales to be stronger, which will help ease the decline.

I think as we've seen in our model and we saw, you know, during the Great Recession that Rick referenced in his comments, when we see sales fall out of the model, there's a large flow through to the bottom line. Similarly, when we're able to beat that kind of leverage point, we should see a huge flow back to the bottom line. That's how we're thinking about the business. I think with the sales declining a little bit less in Q4, we won't see as much of a fall off.

Sharon Zackfia
Partner and Head of Consumer Equity Research, William Blair

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Van Sinderen with B. Riley. Your line is open.

Jeff Van Sinderen
Senior Analyst, B. Riley

Yes. Hi. Just to kind of follow up on the line of discussion on the P&L. Given the pressures you're experiencing, what would you consider to be a normalized gross margin rate? I'm just wondering if you're thinking that it's kinda close to what it was in 2019. Also, how might you reduce SG&A without cutting muscle, so to speak, at this moment, and what seems like a feasible operating margin target over the next year or two for Zumiez?

Chris Work
CFO, Zumiez Inc

Okay. Quite a bit there. Let me try to tackle the SG&A side first because this is one that we're obviously spending a lot of time thinking through and this might bleed into a little bit of our fixed cost around gross margin as well, just how we're thinking about it. You know, I think with this guidance, obviously it's a disappointing result for us in a pretty challenging environment. We're actively working to reduce costs wherever we can, obviously while still investing in the business. I think I start off by saying we still really believe in the long term. I think we're good long-term thinkers. We invested a lot in 2008 and 2009, and it paid huge dividends for us.

As we think about this time, we are continuing to think about the long term and how we continue to invest. That being said, we're also trying to manage during some pretty short-term challenges. I think first and foremost, we're really trying to reduce hours across both our stores and distribution center where possible. Like, I think you've heard a lot of retailers trying to do that. I think we've been working very hard in that area. We've been trying to manage things like marketing and travel to really try to only hone in on those key areas that are driving the highest return. As you know, it's, you know, in these times it can be hard to get the full return that you're looking for.

I think anywhere where there's, you know, variable costs we're looking to remove from the business, at the same time managing corporate costs really closely. We have had some success here, unfortunately, just not enough to offset the sales declines that we've reported and seen in the business. That's kind of how we think about SG&A and where the big points of focus are. In regards to normalized gross margin percentage and operating margin percentage, you know, I'll tell you, we still continue to believe the business can operate in the double-digit operating income. I mean, there's nothing that we've seen even here in this pullback that would tell us we don't believe that.

I think the challenges that we're seeing in the business is that we're not unique to us. It's just, you know, how this sales drop off is impacting us when we're also seeing, you know, increases in other areas. Like for example, domestically here, you know, we're seeing the drop off in sales to both 2021 and 2019. We've been able to take hours down to 2021. We're down about 2% in hours to 2021. We're down about 6% in hours to 2019 in our stores. At the same point, we've seen wage rate increase 7% to 2021 and 16.5% to 2019.

Now, I know other people have reported some of these facts, and I just kind of caveat that with, you know, we're not always comparable with other retailers because of where all your stores are and how minimum wage has impacted us. I think it still highlights the challenges that retailers are facing with the rising cost of minimum wage and labor overall in relation to sales trends. You know, I think over time, that should moderate and we would expect that our sales will adjust from there as well. I think long term, we continue to think, you know, that double-digit operating profit is where we can live.

I think we've talked, you know, before, Jeff, just around some of the other areas of the business that are not contributing to that right now and in our international business, specifically Europe. I think over time, we'll continue to figure that out as well. That will also help drive the overall operating income level back to where we want it to be.

Jeff Van Sinderen
Senior Analyst, B. Riley

Okay, that's helpful. Just sort of as a follow-up to that, and I know you mentioned labor being different in different regions, that's certainly a factor. Are you seeing a difference that's notable in regional or call it store type or store class performance? In other words, I don't know, maybe a different kind of a shopping center, mall or, you know, different regions performing differently based on demographic factors that you might be able to read into.

Chris Work
CFO, Zumiez Inc

Sure. Yeah. Let me kind of take it. You know, I think from an overall perspective, if we look at. We typically break our business into the East, the South, the Midwest, and the West. You know, when we look at those four areas, yes, there is a deviation across them, but I would tell you they've all been pretty bad, and negative. The West has probably been our best. The Midwest and East have been the more challenged areas. Again, not by a huge volume across those areas. I think more as we start to think about the geographic changes have been more, you know, the U.S. to Canada to Europe to Australia, we've seen differences.

We've seen stronger internationally as we've laid out. I think as you talk about mix of stores and what's working, you know, A centers, B centers, C centers, we've really seen, actually, down fairly similar across the board. Maybe a little bit tougher on some of the lower volume centers. Overall, pretty similar across types of volume stores, even similar across our regular online stores versus outlet centers. I think, you know, been challenged even probably a little bit more on the web. Our stores have performed stronger than the web as we kind of break this out.

Jeff Van Sinderen
Senior Analyst, B. Riley

Okay. Thanks for taking my question. I'll take the rest offline.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Mitch Kummetz with Seaport. Your line is open.

Mitch Kummetz
Senior Analyst, Seaport

Yes, thanks for taking my questions. You guys, in your press release and also in some of the comments on the call so far, you talked about adjusting the merchandise assortments, focusing more on what's important to the consumer. Chris, you talked about the strength of private label, on a relative basis. I guess I'm just hoping you can elaborate on what exactly you're looking to do with the assortments. Based on maybe what you've seen through the first half, you know, what sort of confidence do you have in that those adjustments will maybe help drive some better results in the back half?

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

All right, I'll start and let Chris add to the conversation, Mitch. The first and probably the most primary thing is, again, our customers telling us they want more value from us. We're defining. Of course, each customer might define value differently in terms of how they combine price points and this product. We have a number of different strategies, really three different groups or buckets here that our product teams are working on that would be ways for us to deliver more value to that consumer base. During back to school, a lot of that you saw, as Chris said, our private label penetration was much higher.

We did that through the back to school cycle with really the bucketing and of the bundling of product to get there. We have, again, Mitch, about three different value points of view we have that I'm not gonna share them all, but I believe are what we're gonna be working towards enhancing those as we move forward through the remainder of this quarter and into the fourth quarter. Of course, promotional strategies will be probably a bit different in fourth quarter versus the bundling you saw relative to outfit building in Q3. Again, they really fall into these different buckets, Mitch, which I'm not gonna share them all. Private label is clearly one of them, and we certainly can deliver more private label in this window.

We have actually in some categories of product been low, because the sell-throughs have been so strong. We'll be replenishing those here in the next few weeks. The faster turn categories, of course, we're much more quick in replenishing.

Chris Work
CFO, Zumiez Inc

I'd just add to that just, so everyone gets a feel on just where we're at with private label. I mean, this is, as Rick said, it's really been a business for us that we'll let the customer sort of dictate where they wanna go. We peaked in private label at about 21% as a percent of overall sales in 2015. Then really have seen since then a decline in private label. It got down to about 11% and then ended actually last year in 2021 at 13%. I think what's interesting is over the last six years, we've talked about product margin expansion.

I think this is a real testament to our teams, our buying teams and our sales teams of just about how they've been able to manage product and still grow margin despite private label decreasing as a percent of the business. I think this is a strength of ours, even in an environment like this, where we have not seen product margin decline as we've heard with other retailers as much. I think, you know, this mix swing will be something that will, you know, help support us a little bit as we assume the customer is gonna go back to, you know, more value-added product.

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

I just wanna add to that, Mitch.

Mitch Kummetz
Senior Analyst, Seaport

Yep.

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

It also doesn't mean that we aren't gonna be introducing new emerging brands at a good pace here over the back half of the year, so we have in the first half of the year. It's still a central part of our business. When we see young brands, we still see young brands having their moments where they resonate and generate some volume for us. That's still in the longer term perspective for us. You know, we're gonna see this cycle back. Again, as Chris said, we go where the customers want us to go. Right now, they're telling us they want more value in our offering, but that doesn't mean we won't launch young brands in this world.

We will, and I think there are some exciting things out there to consider on that front too. They're gonna come back, right? As we come out of this cycle, I fully believe that the uniqueness of emerging brands will again drive. We'll see private label move back down again as customers move towards the branded merchandise.

Mitch Kummetz
Senior Analyst, Seaport

Got it. Then on the skate hardgoods piece, I know there was some good trend there prior to COVID, and then it kind of went on steroids for a year or so, and it's been more difficult in the last year. Is there any way you can kind of frame where that business stands today, kind of volume-wise, from where it was like in 2018 before it really took off, just so that we get a sense as to, you know, maybe how much risk there still is there. I'm not saying it's going back to 2018 or below 2018, but I'd just be curious to know kinda where it stands versus, you know, the big run that you guys experienced, until recently.

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

Yeah. That's. I think you framed that well, Mitch. Again, I just. We had a tough run in skate hardgoods from 2015 through 2018, and then in early 2019, we saw it take off everywhere across all of our global businesses. Virtually simultaneously, skate hardgoods really started to be strong. Good 2019. Obviously, 2020 pandemic put, as you said, that business on steroids really was crazy. Even the early part of 2021 was good, and then we started to see it tick down about probably mid-2021. I just think that's a healthy framing for thinking about where we're at now in the cycle.

I do believe that a lot of the pandemic and the stimulus really juiced and pulled forward a lot of demand and perhaps potentially shortened what would've been a longer skate hardgoods cycle. I think that's just good context for us to think about. I'll let Chris talk more about the numbers and where we're at.

Chris Work
CFO, Zumiez Inc

Yeah, I think we peaked at 19% of sales in 2020 and dropped to 15% in 2021. As you know, it has been a decline. It's been, you know, one of our larger areas of decline over the last few quarters. As we wrapped up Q2, it was definitely getting closer to its trough with us. You know, it's hard for us to know where this will land. Will it, you know, trough at 10% or 12% or even go below 10%? I'm not sure we know for sure.

What we do know is, you know, based on these trend lines and what we factored into our guidance for the remainder of the year, as we move into Q4 and we start to, you know, we're anniversarying tougher and tougher numbers with each quarter that goes along, we would expect it to kinda be near that trough and, you know, in the back half of this year and the front half of 2023.

Mitch Kummetz
Senior Analyst, Seaport

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks, guys. Good luck.

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, that's star one one to ask the question. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Corey Tarlowe with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Corey Tarlowe
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Hi, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my question. With inventories elevated across the retail industry at present and promotions also heightened, how are you thinking about your current positioning from an inventory and promotional perspective? Maybe how are you expecting this to unfold over the next few quarters?

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

All right, Corey. I'll start and let Chris add on. Again, as you know well, we're very proud of the fact that we have been a full price, full margin retailer. I think it represents the strength of our brand and what we offer our customers. Again, I think as our buyers and our buying teams around the world have done a great job of minimizing the impact, particularly relative to other retailers so far, relative to product margin declines. I think we've probably done better than almost everyone out there. Now, you could argue that's maybe why sales are a bit tougher, because we haven't been marking down, we haven't needed to be as aggressive in marking down product as perhaps some other retailers have had to be.

That's because we, again, we wanna stand on our own. We wanna stand consistently for what our brand means for our customers and what it represents for our customers. We feel that our teams have done a good job managing inventory. Our job, as we mentioned a couple of questions ago, is to find new ways to deliver for our customers and to the value they want offered from our assortment. At this point, we do think that it's probably gonna be a more promotional environment. I don't think there's probably any way that anybody that does think that is probably, I think, gonna get a rude surprise. It probably won't become from us, Corey, as much it will be from our competitors having to really mark down pricing.

Our job is to find ways that we can convey value through our unique strategies relative to our product mix and our product assortments and how we work with our brand partners. I think we have done a great job of managing inventory through the cycle. I think that we feel positive about where our inventory is and in relation, if we get down to a category by category basis, that we have the ability to manage relative to where our sales will be, that we can control it based upon looking at those category details. I think we are gonna be probably covering our own unique path in that, where I'm not sure we'll be as promotional as others. But I think it's the right thing for us, and I think it's the right thing for our brand. I don't know, Chris, you have anything to offer?

Chris Work
CFO, Zumiez Inc

No. I mean, I just, I would just say our inventory, we feel really good about, the cleanliness of it and where it stands. Obviously, as we reported, you know, up 4% on an FX-adjusted basis to 2021 and pretty even with where we were in 2019. I think the teams have done a really good job, trying to manage the risk in inventory.

Corey Tarlowe
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Got it. Just 'cause you mentioned by category, how is the customer responding to those categories where you might be having a little bit of, call it, lower merch margins as a result of competitive pressures?

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

Again, I don't quite think of it that way. If we're driving lower merch margins often probably because of our value strategies around bundling and things like that, we're still only marking down product where we don't have the rate of sell through and where we can't work with our brands on that on that topic, whether it be brands supporting through RTVs, return to vendors or through assistance in markdown dollars. I think about it a bit differently, Corey, in terms of how our teams work through it. For me, it's like, again, I think we've done a pretty amazing job through this environment of managing product margins. We're only marking down things where we can't find a way to work through it, otherwise work through with our brand partners.

Corey Tarlowe
VP and Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Great. Very helpful. Thank you very much, and best of luck.

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

Thanks.

Chris Work
CFO, Zumiez Inc

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Rick for closing remarks.

Rick Brooks
CEO, Zumiez Inc

All right. Again, thank you everyone for your time today, and we always appreciate your interest in what we're doing at Zumiez. Despite the challenges, I know that we here as a team remain incredibly competent in our long-term positioning and the strategies we have to execute for earning and winning share in the marketplace. Thank you everyone again for your time, and we'll look forward to talking to you in December when we release our third quarter results.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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