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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Nov 12, 2021

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the 3Q 2021 results call. My name is Molly and I'll be your coordinator for today's event. Please note that this call is being recorded, and for the duration of the call, your lines will be on listen only. However, you will have the opportunity to ask questions at the end. This can be done by pressing star one on your telephone keypad to register your question. If you require assistance at any point, please press star zero and you will be connected to an operator. I will now hand you over to your host, F atjona Topciu , Head of Investor Relations, to begin today's conference. Thank you.

Fatjona Topciu
Head of Investor Relations, Royal Vopak

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our 2021 Q3 results. Today we are joined in the call by our CEO, Eelco Hoekstra, CFO, Gerard Paulides, and Dick Richelle, Global Director, Commercial and Business Development, who has been nominated to take over the function of Chairman of the Executive Board and CEO as of 1st of January 2022. Eelco will provide an update on the CEO succession and will highlight the portfolio items and market conditions, while Dick will give a brief introduction about his past experiences. As usual, Gerard will guide us through Q3 results. We will refer to the Q3 2021 analyst presentation, which you can follow on screen and download from our website. After the presentation, we will have the opportunity for Q&A. A replay of the call will be made available on our website.

Before we start, I would like to refer to the disclaimer content of the forward-looking statements which you are familiar with. I would like to remind you that we may make forward-looking statements during today's presentation, which involve certain risks and uncertainties. Accordingly, this disclaimer is applicable to the entire call, including the answers provided to the questions during the Q&A session. With that, I would like to turn over the call to Eelco.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Thanks, Fatjona. Good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to have you all in the call. What I will do, I will briefly talk about the CEO succession and introduce Dick Richelle to you. Thereafter, I will provide some insights on current market conditions and our portfolio developments. As mentioned, I would like to share a few points about the recent announcement on the CEO succession of Royal Vopak. As you've read, I have decided not to seek a fourth term and hand over the company's leadership following 11 years as Chairman of the Executive Board and CEO of Royal Vopak. You'll not be surprised that it's been a huge privilege to serve Vopak for such a long time.

Vopak is a great place to work, and I'm really grateful to our board and all my colleagues, the customers, business partners, shareholders for their trust, commitment, and contribution. I will remain committed to Royal Vopak by securing a smooth transition in the coming months, and I'm very pleased that my successor will be Dick Richelle, who has been working at Vopak for 25 years. We've had the pleasure to work very closely together in the past years. I will now hand over to Dick for a short introduction.

Dick Richelle
Global Director of Commercial and Business Development, Royal Vopak

Thank you very much, Eelco. Good morning, everyone. My name is Dick Richelle, and it's a pleasure to be with you today in this call. I started my career at Vopak a little bit over 25 years ago, and I have experience serving in a variety of management roles in the company. The last 12 years, I specifically led our divisions in Americas and Asia and Middle East. Most recently, I headed the global commercial and business development activities for the company. I have been part of the strategic committee since 2009. After many years with Vopak, it's an honor to be nominated for the position of Chairman of the Executive Board and CEO of Royal Vopak.

I'm passionate for the future of our company on the basis of who we are, what we do, and most importantly, where we have our locations across the network. The world around us, at the same time, is changing rapidly, and I look forward working with all stakeholders on the priorities for the period ahead. Today, I won't be in a position to take any questions related to Vopak current or future performance, but I look forward doing that at our Capital Markets Day after the AGM in 2022. Over to you, Eelco.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Thanks, Dick. Thanks for joining us and listening in. Let's move on to the market conditions and reflect a bit on the Q3 results. As you've noticed in the developed world, stimulus packages, high vaccination rates, and the easing of lockdowns has resulted in a strong demand recovery in all product market combinations. However, pent-up demand that is reemerging after the unprecedented disruption of 2020 is putting strain on the balance of the markets. This is reflected in exceptional price gains across almost all energy and chemical commodities. The market for chemicals remains tight as supply continues to be affected and is not able to meet growing demand. The oil market has seen recovery in consumption. Oil supply is gradually increasing as OPEC is raising output, but the increase in supply growth is not yet meeting demand growth.

As a consequence, the tank storage industry continues to face supply tightness, leading to a lower requirement for excess storage of products. We believe that 2022 will be a year of recovery for the tank storage industry as global vaccination rates increase and supply chains rebalance. I'm pleased with the transformation of our portfolio towards more sustainable forms of energy and feedstocks, and want to highlight a few proof points of Q3. We recently announced that we are investigating the strategic options for our terminals in Australia, located in Sydney and Darwin, with a total capacity of 545,000 cu m . Our growth momentum continue with the delivery of new industrial, chemical and gas storage capacity, reaching almost 500,000 cu m ear-to-date.

We've successfully and timely delivered a new Vopak industrial terminal on the United States Gulf Coast, with a total capacity of 144,000 cu m , including pipelines connecting the terminal to the petrochemical complex. The new terminal has been designed and built by Vopak to serve reputable customers such as ExxonMobil and SABIC under a 20-year-long contract. Our LNG portfolio is solid, with high levels of utilization in our existing assets and expansion momentum. Furthermore, our pipeline of LNG business development opportunities is aimed at capturing the growth in this particular market. Despite continuing Vopak's active participation in the German LNG Project, as announced in our press release, we have various other opportunities, such as Hong Kong, which are progressing well.

Finally, we are repurposing existing infrastructure to lighter fuels, so we're planning to invest in a conversion from fuel oil to clean petroleum products in Los Angeles terminals in the United States. With that, I'll now hand over to Gerard Paulides, our CFO, to elaborate on our third quarter financial results.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Thank you, Eelco, for your introduction. However, also a special thanks, Eelco, for guiding the company over the last few years and your leadership, including your personal friendship. Thank you. Dick, welcome. Look forward to working with you and deliver the results that we aim for. Back to the results. As Eelco said, we have a portfolio that we are actively positioning for the future. This makes our investment case exciting and part of the new world. Meanwhile, we also focus on our performance today. I will update you on the financial performance of the third quarter in the following few minutes. Let's begin with slide seven and review the highlights. In the third quarter, financial performance was strong. EBITDA grew to EUR 619 million in soft market conditions. Adjusted for EUR 13 million negative currency translation effects, EBITDA increased by 5% or EUR 29 million.

Growth project contribution of EUR 35 million and efficiency are driving positive EBITDA performance. We continue transforming our portfolio for the future and invested EUR 226 million in growth year- to- date. Cost efficiency measures are tracking well, and the cost level for the third quarter year- to- date amounted to EUR 448 million, which is including the cost for growth and business development efforts. This is in line with our cost outlook for the year of EUR 650 million. We're confident to reach that level even in the current inflationary environment and despite higher costs for utilities that we have observed in the last quarter and will observe in the fourth quarter. Our proportional occupancy rate remains at 88%. The occupancy rate didn't move, but the EBITDA has grown.

We've made good progress on our strategy execution by successfully commissioning industrial, chemical and gas terminals, on which I will elaborate further later in the presentation. A positive valuation effect in Vopak Ventures of EUR 39 million was recorded in other comprehensive income in equity, therefore directly in the balance sheet at the end of Q3. Not through the P&L, but directly in the balance sheet. Let's move on to the next slide and look at the financial performance per division year to date. Strong performance in Europe and Africa, mainly driven by growth project contributions in South Africa and partly improved occupancy in the Netherlands and Belgium. In the Americas, solid performance is driven by new capacity in Mexico. China and North Asia reflects new capacity commissioned in 2021.

In LNG, soft LNG performance reflects the maintenance turnaround, which we've discussed in the previous quarters at our LNG import facility in the Netherlands in Gate. This has now successfully been completed. Weak performance in Asia and Middle East is a combination of factors. First of all, tight chemical markets and the recent COVID-19 surge is impacting our Singapore terminals. Secondly, tight oil markets are having an impact on our occupancy in Fujairah and in Indonesia. Moving on to the third quarter versus the second quarter, and continuing with our EBITDA performance. Also here you see the EBITDA momentum. In absolute terms, the third quarter amounted to EUR 213 million, reflecting solid performance across all regions. Overall, a strong quarter with a EUR 6 million increase. In the next slide, some details per region.

The Americas division benefited from growth in the third quarter, primarily driven by our new industrial terminal in Corpus Christi. Furthermore, there's an uptick in occupancy as the U.S. economy is running at full speed, and this is reflected in several terminals across our U.S. network, Deer Park and Savannah. In Asia and the Middle East, occupancy reflects soft business conditions, as I mentioned already in oil, showing up in Fujairah and Indonesia, but also the chemical markets, particularly impacting Singapore. China and North Asia division is relatively stable quarter-on-quarter. Performance of Europe and Africa reflects the commissioning of new capacity in Antwerp, what we call the Linkero ever, Left Bank, and improved occupancy in the Netherlands. LNG performance is solid, however, second and third quarter were impacted by the Gate maintenance turnaround program. Year- to- date, it looks different from a year ago.

Moving on, let me take you through our financial performance year- to- date in a bit more detail. In the last calls, we highlighted various levers that have impacted our performance. Starting point is the year- to- date Q3 2020 EBITDA of EUR 603 million. Changes in business environment resulted in a net negative contribution. Market dynamics in the oil markets were positive, however, currency headwinds and tight chemical markets have reduced our performance. In response, we have delivered on our growth projects, which year- to- date have contributed EUR 35 million. Our costs were higher compared to last year, driven by higher energy and utility costs. However, we remain on track and confident in achieving our cost, performance, and outlook of EUR 615 million. Let's move to the cash flow.

Cash flow generation was solid and increased by 5% year-over-year to EUR 562 million, adjusted for derivatives and working capital movements. This 5% is in line with the EBITDA momentum. Our cash flow overview in 2020 was mainly driven by the cash flow inflow from the divestments and the additional gain for the 2019 divestment of the joint venture terminal in Hainan, China, and the EUR 85 million repayment of our preferred share capital in the industrial terminal in Malaysia. All those effects, cash flow wise, played out in 2020. Year-over-year performance was influenced by the impact of derivatives related to our intercompany loans and working capital movements.

Sustaining service and IT investments were EUR 222 million, slightly higher compared to last year, and included investments for maintenance and inspections of out of service capacity. Investment in growth projects continued and resulted in EUR 226 million investment year- to- date. As mentioned, we're investing in growth and have shown our ability to grow EBITDA and cash flow and equity at healthy rates. EBITDA has grown by 7% in the period 2004- 2020. 7% as a CAGR, and capital employed and equity by 9% and 13% respectively. This reflects our ambition to grow EBITDA over time and adjust our portfolio. Previously, we've guided the market on the growth project contribution for 2021 being at the higher end of the EUR 30 million-EUR 50 million range.

Last quarter, we added to that guidance an outlook to 2023. Those numbers are unchanged. The growth CapEx involved with this EUR 110 million-EUR 125 million is in the order of EUR 1 billion. Additional projects which are not yet approved will further contribute to EBITDA and to our CapEx spend. Moving on to the portfolio. During the quarter, we announced the opening of a new Vopak industrial terminal in the U.S. Gulf Coast, as mentioned by Eelco, with a capacity of 144,000 cu m . We are proud to strengthen our industrial terminal portfolio, which is a growth market for Vopak and where we are an industry leader. Furthermore, the commissioning of our ammonia operations in the Vopak Moda Houston Terminal was successful, adding to our ammonia network in the world.

Vopak already operates various ammonia terminals across its network, and ammonia, we believe, is a vital product of today and of the future, as green ammonia made from renewable energy can be directly used in our existing ammonia infrastructure. We believe the shift of our portfolio will support us in the acceleration of new energy and feedstock projects. Let's move to LNG. Gate terminal has experienced a very high utilization in 2021, and it successfully managed its maintenance turnaround program. We are also increasing the regas capacity of Gate by 12.5% as of 2024. Mexico has shown a stable commercial performance, and we've recently signed a new 10-year contract for Mexico for the entire capacity. Colombia serves as a strategic backup facility when hydropower supply is low and is in good shape. Pakistan has received its 400 ship-to-ship LNG transfer, reflecting good utilization.

LNG is a growth market, and Vopak aims to grow in the regasification of LNG. Our business development activities are primarily aimed East of Suez, and that is where the majority of gas and LNG demand growth will occur over the coming periods. We are currently working on several projects, and I want to highlight a few, as I've done in the last calls as well. We are in advanced negotiations to participate jointly with MOL Mitsui on the ownership, operation and maintenance of a floating storage and regas unit in Hong Kong. The envisaged collaboration follows MOL's earlier announcement in 2019, whereby MOL has entered into a long-term contract with the Hong Kong LNG Terminal Limited, together with Vopak's jetty operation and maintenance support. The project will support Hong Kong's energy transition and increase the percentage of power generation with natural gas.

We've written off EUR 11.1 million for our business development activities at German LNG. After a review, we've decided to focus on our project elsewhere, as well as continued participation in German LNG, however, at a more passive manner. There are various opportunities which are currently being pursued in South Africa, Singapore and Australia, and we will update you as these projects mature. Some portfolio highlights. Through our network, we contribute to society by ensuring access to products that meet people's everyday needs. We store vital products with care. We aim to be a sustainability leader and live up to our purpose. We care for safe, clean and efficient storage as well as for safety, health and well-being of our employees, contractors and neighbors. We care for the capital our investors entrust us with, and ultimately, we care for a resilient and sustainable society.

Our focus on environmental, social and governance, ESG topics, is reflected in the ESG benchmarks, where we do very well. Recently, we joined forces to open a 25 MW solar park in the Netherlands, together with Groningen Seaports and Whitehelm Capital, shown in the picture. The opening of the park marks Vopak's transition to green energy in the Netherlands, actively contributing to the greening of logistics chains of our customers and our role in society. Moving on to new energy and some focus areas. We recognize the acceleration of energy transition. Our portfolio is well-positioned to capture opportunities for new investments. We earmarked four areas in new energy: hydrogen, CO2 infrastructure, sustainable feedstocks and flow batteries. Hydrogen could play an important role in the decarbonization of our energy systems, and we focus our business efforts on opportunities in hydrogen and other liquids that can store energy like green ammonia.

The industrial sector is already consuming a lot of hydrogen, and we expect hydrogen consumption to grow for feedstock and as an energy source. We're part of H-vision consortium working on infrastructure solutions in the port of Rotterdam to decarbonize and through large scale use of blue hydrogen. Another important pilot project that we're focusing on is the first of a kind liquid organic hydrogen carrier supply chain. Additionally, we are involved in CO2 infrastructure in various ports, which would allow industrial clusters to store CO2 in depleted gas fields. Finally, we believe that in a changing energy market, there's more need for electricity storage to deal with flexible supply as well as higher and more flexible demand. Flow batteries are a promising solution as they are scalable and non-flammable. In total, we currently pursue more than ten infrastructure projects in new energy.

We also recognize the importance of supporting and working with startups and scale-ups to innovate supply chains. In that spirit, we've set up Vopak Ventures to identify opportunities in new technology and emerging value chains. In our ventures, we focus on three areas, new energies and feedstock sustainability. Second area, operational excellence and asset maintenance, and the third area, platforms, data and digital. We believe our ambitions are complementary to our Vopak portfolio, which includes investments into hydrogen, such as Hydrogenious Technologies and HyET Hydrogen. In line with the future potential, a positive valuation effect in Vopak Ventures of EUR 39 million was recorded in comprehensive income in equity in the balance sheet at the end of Q3.

Turning to proportional results, performance of joint ventures and associates is becoming more important in our portfolio, and our proportional EBITDA is EUR 259 million this quarter, of which joint ventures contribute EUR 100 million. Our proportional occupancy rate was 88%. Turning to our debt profile, I would like to remind you that debt servicing, of course, is one of our top priorities in our cash waterfall priority management. As you can see from the debt repayment schedule, our revolving credit facility's up for renewal in 2023, and we're looking into the possibility to introduce a sustainability-linked debt instrument in the coming year when we focus on the renewal of the credit facility. Let me close out with looking ahead.

In 2021, reported EBITDA contributions from 2020 and 2021 growth projects are expected to be at the higher end of the range of EUR 30 million-EUR 50 million. In 2023, reported EBITDA contribution from 2020 and currently approved growth projects is unchanged at EUR 110 million-EUR 125 million. Additional projects may contribute to further EBITDA growth. We continue to focus on cost and continue to aim for EUR 650 million for 2021. In 2021, we also update you on the growth investment expected, and we now estimate that to be around EUR 275 million, below our previously announced range of EUR 300 million-EUR 350 million. In the coming years, the majority of growth investments will be allocated towards industrial gas and new energy infrastructures, and we will keep looking for the best and optimal portfolio.

Let me wrap up. We delivered strong financial performance with 5% EBITDA growth and CFFO growth. Growth project contributions stand at EUR 35 million, and our response to cost management and dedication is unchanged, with a target of EUR 615 million, with pressure on utilities in the third and fourth quarter, but the target unchanged. In this quarter, we've delivered strategy execution by commissioning capacity, as mentioned. With that, we will move to Q&A, which Eelco will lead, and we will probably both of us take some of the questions. Obviously, I will concentrate on the majority of them, given that this is a Q3 update. Eelco, over to you.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Thanks. Thanks, Gerard, for that elaborate update. That concludes the presentation and our prepared remarks. As Gerard mentioned, I would like to invite the operator to open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Please ensure that your line is unmuted locally. You'll then be advised when to go ahead with your question. That's star one. The first question today comes from the line of David Kerstens, calling from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

David Kerstens
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Yes, thank you very much. It's David Kerstens from Jefferies. First of all, Eelco, I would like to thank you for your support and insights over the past 11 years. Quite an impressive achievement in such a volatile market environment. I wish you all the best in your future career at SHV. I'm looking forward to working with Dick again from next year onwards. A few questions maybe, if I may. First of all, are you seeing early signs of the underlying momentum in the business improving in this quarter?

I think if you take out FX and growth projects, EBITDA was down by EUR 5 million, but I think there were some one-offs in the quarter, such as further maintenance related to Gate LNG and also, I think, hurricane impacts in the U.S. Do you see an improvement in underlying momentum already? Then secondly, you talked about the potential rebalancing of supply chain, supply chains in 2022. What is the potential recovery effect that you're seeing there? Is that mainly the EUR 5 million-EUR 10 million lower contribution that you highlighted for chemicals year- to- date, or is that impact much larger? Finally, we reduced the expectation for growth CapEx of EUR 275 million. Does that reflect the equity that you had in mind to invest in the Gate LNG or the LNG terminal in Germany?

Thank you very much.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Okay. Thanks, David, for your questions and remarks. I suggest that Gerard takes the question on the growth CapEx and the difference between our earlier remarks and the year following. I will give a bit of color on the market, David. As I made in my comment in my prepared remarks is that indeed we have seen quite an unprecedented development in commodity markets globally. We were of the opinion that this could not be sustained for a longer period of time, because we know by definition that markets will fall again back into an equilibrium.

What we have seen happening in the second and third quarter, which also we guided on two quarters ago, last quarter as well, but we see already a normalization happening in the chemical markets. With that, I mean that more and more manufacturing capability has come back. We didn't mention the winter freeze anymore because in the third quarter we've seen the United States manufacturing base coming back into operation. What we've seen is that that has led to additional sort of volume entering into the markets. We've seen a trend towards a normalized environment in chemicals in several parts of our businesses. One is the United States.

As of the third quarter, if you look at the throughput levels that we are now experiencing, for instance, in VIA or in our Houston terminal, they're very close to pre-COVID levels. We've seen also that the requests for storage for chemicals, for instance, in Singapore, and the amount of requests that we're obtaining are increasing quarter by quarter. We are not there yet, David, but I think that the trend that we envisaged is indeed happening. I would believe, and that's what we made a comment on, is that in for the year 2022, for chemicals, we should see a relatively normal environment, all things being equal, obviously.

For oil, we see a little bit of the reverse trend happening, unfortunately. We haven't seen a major recovery of the oil price. We haven't seen more stocks being taken globally, particularly for middle distillates. Despite the occupancy being relatively stable in oil, also across the globe, we see that there's a bit of price erosion happening in the major hubs. For us, it's a little bit too early to say that the market is turning into a complete normal position again. Those are the two factors that probably will be taken into consideration mostly for the year 2022.

What I can say is that that's again very nice to see that our long-term contracts, and I think that Gerard alluded to that, we've signed again a long-term contract for TLA in Mexico. We see that our industrial contracts are running well, our gas contracts are running well. In other words, we still have sort of a large part of our business, which is very stable, very supportive of our earnings. For me, I think it underlines the results of this quarter, underlines the strength of our existing portfolio. That despite relatively weak markets and 88% occupancy, we can provide such a strong earnings to support our view on Vopak.

That's my view on the market, David.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Yeah. Let me pick it up from there, Eelco and David. First of all, on the CapEx, the CapEx is not related to Germany. The CapEx is related to our total growth portfolio, the assets that we are developing and the financing thereof. The outlook for the earnings contribution is unchanged. So it's a matter of phasing of CapEx and cash rather than anything else. There's not more behind the statement than indicating the cash momentum of the CapEx involved. All the underlying assumptions are unchanged. For Germany, we will convert our active participation in Germany to a more passive one. We will remain a partner in the JV together with Gasunie and Oiltanking.

The JV will continue to pursue its goal to build and operate an LNG terminal in Germany. The basis for the progress, there's been some successes in terms of the regulatory and planning progress, but we also have some mixed successes on the commercial side. All combined, we've taken this view and as a result, we've made the statement that we've made. In terms of business momentum, I think the business momentum, all things together, give us confidence in the earnings we posted today. It's good momentum compared to last year. It's good momentum compared to the second quarter.

As you point out, yes, there are a whole lot of moving parts in there and that is typical of the last six or seven quarters where we've seen such unsettled markets moving through our portfolio. If I look through that, and I look at our momentum in cash flow from ops, our portfolio transition, our business momentum, I think we're doing the right things, and there's some early signs of the market, as Eelco indicated, a bit more clear in chemicals, little bit more mixed in oil. If we throw that in all together in one statement, then what we've said is, looking at 2022, it might be that that is a recovery of tank storage industry relative to 2020 and 2021. With that, I think we've answered your questions.

Gate, you pointed out disturbing the momentum a bit of the second and third quarter. That's correct. Maintenance charges were in second and third quarter. Year- to- date that influences, but it's not a factor between the two quarters. I think that's the complete answer to your questions. Let's move to the next question, operator.

David Kerstens
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Amy Sergeant, calling from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Amy Sergeant
Lead Metals Commodity and Oil Strategist, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Yeah, I had a couple of questions, if I may. I was hoping whether you could provide a bit more guidance on where you think that growth CapEx number could be going to in 2022. I know previously it's been a sort of EUR 300 million-EUR 350 million range. Any guidance you can provide there would be great. The second question is on the cost outlook for 2022. I guess, did you have any hedging in place that helps mitigate some of the utility costs for this quarter, and how does that play out next year? Thirdly, just any update on the oil storage at the Fujairah Terminal.

I know you had a contract that had rolled off there, so any update there would be great. Thank you very much.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Okay. Thank you, Amy. First, the CapEx question. The guidance for next year, we haven't really formalized yet, but I have given indications. That is correct. What I've said in the past is, in the last three years, we invested about EUR 1 billion. Divide that by 3, EUR 300 million-EUR 350 million is a reasonable number for us to use. This year we're under that at the moment. For next year, we're also significantly under that in terms of committed number of projects. There is always a bit of noise in that because you never know when you actually spend money on M&A type of activities like the India transaction that we now think is heading the right way for completion.

The integration efforts are very supportive, and the teams are working together extremely well. All the signs are positive on that. But the guidance for next year at the moment, I would say with the committed level is below that range that you indicate. If we were to announce new projects, or M&A type of activity, then we will update you on that number. Below the range is what I give you as a statement today.

Amy Sergeant
Lead Metals Commodity and Oil Strategist, Morgan Stanley

Okay, thank you.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

The cost outlook, there's always a bit of sort of noise in there because we bring new assets online, of course, that comes with new cost. We stay within the EUR 615 million that we guided for this year, including the high utility energy cost we have observed in Q3 and we'll see in Q4, no doubt. We do hedge part of it. We also pass through part of it to our customers. When I say hedge, it's not really maybe literally a hedge, but it could be that we conclude fixed price agreement, so versus variable. However, there is certainly a part that sticks, and that we will see in our numbers and have seen in our numbers.

For 2022, on a relative basis to a full year 2021, I would expect utility costs to be higher. Year- to- date, the utility cost, and I'm looking a little bit at Fatjona to correct me if I get it wrong, but I think year- to- date we had a EUR 9 million increase in utilities. Fatjona is nodding at me, so the number is okay. That's a year- to-d ate number. Absorbed, as I said, in the EUR 615 million that we gave you earlier. Fujairah is obviously an asset that is perhaps even more than some other assets in our portfolio subject to the markets rather than an industrial complex, for instance.

We did see in the Middle East, Asia occupancy a drop in the occupancy reported at the end of Q3. Fujairah is part of that dynamic, and Fujairah has seen some positive contract renewals which will kick in at the start of next year.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Let me, if you allow me, Gerard, to add a few words to that and a bit of color, Amy. In Fujairah, the occupancy drop that we've seen this year was related to a crude oil contract that expired on its term. That was a five-year deal that we had previously that came off this summer. We've invested in crude oil in Fujairah because we always believed that Fujairah would be an excellent collection point for crude in the Middle East. That was supported by the introduction of the Intercontinental Exchange, or the ICE, which delivers a futures contract for Abu Dhabi crude. It's the IFAD, and this is a Murban crude future that has started to trade.

The United Arab Emirates has an interest to develop that pricing point for crude over the coming years. I'm very pleased to inform you that at least the crude tanks that we then have developed and came off will be rented out again next year under again a commitment basically tied in to that future contract for crude. Yes, we had an occupancy let's say a lower occupancy in Fujairah, but I would expect that at least for crude, we have that covered as of next year.

Amy Sergeant
Lead Metals Commodity and Oil Strategist, Morgan Stanley

Okay, fantastic. Thank you very much for the extra detail on all of those. Very helpful.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Thank you, Amy. Operator, if we could move to the next question.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Thijs Berkelder, calling from ABN AMRO. Please go ahead.

Thijs Berkelder
Senior Equity Analyst, ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF

Yeah, good morning, Thijs Berkelder, ABN AMRO, also ODDO BHF. First word for Eelco. Eelco, I really want to thank you for the cooperation in the past 11 years. It was fun traveling around with the clients. I wish you good luck at SHV. And of course, for new CEO, Dick, well, welcome in the spotlight. I hope you can indeed take Vopak through this challenging energy transition. My three topics, I have many more topics, but let's focus on three topics. Australia strategic review. Can you give us the EBITDA level of Australia, let's say, this year, roughly? And to 2022, roughly.

My calculation is for 2022 around EUR 35 million, so that means in 2022 you will start with a minus EUR 35 million of EBITDA if you decide to sell the entity. Relate to Australia, occupancy in Asia and Middle East is down to 85% in this quarter. What is the occupancy ex-Australia, if you have that? Second topic, Malaysia. As understood, you increased your stake in Pengerang in the industrial terminal. Can you explain the financial dynamics? And secondly, I've understood from Dialog that there was a new court case planned related to the huge claim against your JV. Is there an update on that court case? Because that was planned for end of October, according to my understanding. Third topic, new energy. I...

Good and great to see that you were able to do a EUR 39 million revaluation. I presume it's primarily related to LOHC. My understanding is you had a 10% stake.

Rough and dirty, should I assume a value for the 100% LOHC of about EUR 500 million?

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Thank you, Thijs, for those questions. I suggest that we start with Gerard, who gives a guidance on the Australia question and on the new energy one, and then I will dive into PTT2SB .

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Yeah. Let me start with the court case. I think the court case is progressing. It's in the final stages. We've not changed our opinion on that whole dynamic and don't expect anything to come out of that. It will be hopefully neutralized at the final stages of this discussion with the court. On the EUR 39 million, I can confirm that the majority of that valuation update is in the sustainable energy fund of the Vopak Ventures activities. That's where the main movement is. Indeed, the main movement is related to Hydrogenious. But there are other small moving parts in the portfolio. We are extremely happy and proud with that movement.

You're right, our holding in Hydrogenious is about 10%. On Australia, we're not going to break out the numbers, Thijs. I understand the question, I understand the appetite, but we will not break out the numbers. Occupancy has always been good in Australia. That I can say. We've also recently started an expansion in Australia, in Sydney. The assets are in good shape. I will refrain from giving you the financial breakout of the numbers. Sorry for that, Thijs. Eelco, will you-

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Yes.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Explain a bit the PTT2SB.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Yes. Well, first of all, Thijs, let's make correction. It's not PTT2SB, it's PITSB. As you can recall, we have two terminals there, or actually we have three in Malaysia. That's KTSB, but that's not part of this. That's the industrial terminal. Then with PTT2SB, which is the industrial terminal, with Petronas and Dialog to serve the refinery chemical complex. We have PITSB. PITSB is our independent terminal for fuel storage in Malaysia, located next to PTT2SB. I hope I have not confused you.

Thijs Berkelder
Senior Equity Analyst, ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF

Okay.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

PITSB, which has been the first terminal we constructed in Pengerang, there are, let's say, the primary partners are Dialog and Vopak, and there's also a small percentage held by the Malaysian government, the local government, the province. There was a 10% economic ownership, which was, let's say, set up early on, and it has now been distributed economically to the partners. We just increased our economic ownership by 10%, or that 10% was divided, and it's nothing more than that we executed on agreements made previously.

The second thing I can tell you about the court case against the joint venture, that is a court case against PT TUSV. That court case is ongoing. We've had a strikeout already concluded, but it has been gone to a higher echelon in the judiciary. It has been postponed, so we just need to wait for next year to get a further outcome of that. But nothing has changed from the content. We very much still think, as we said in our press release, that it's a frivolous pursuit against the joint venture partners. We still need to wait for that to be resolved.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Yeah, just to clarify that, sorry to interrupt, Eelco.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Sure.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Strikeout is therefore in our favor, right?

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Yeah.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

The case was.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Unbiased.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Yeah.

Therefore, we said we should not even hear this case in court. The court actually agreed with the statements of the joint venture, saying that the plaintiff had too weak case actually to bring it to court. It has not served in court yet. We are still hopeful that we can keep it outside the court and let's wait for that to continue.

Thijs Berkelder
Senior Equity Analyst, ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF

Okay. Very good. Thanks.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Okay, Thijs, thanks for asking the questions and again, apologies for not being willing to give the Australia details.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Who's next?

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Who's next?

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Yeah.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Quirijn Mulder calling from ING. Please go ahead.

Quirijn Mulder
Director and Senior Analyst, ING

Good morning, everyone. First, I would like to thank Eelco for his 11th year as the CEO. Nice to speak to you, not only on the business, but also on the, let me say, family matters and other things like the future of the society. I like the discussions. Even at the breakfast, as I remember. Thank you. Thanks a lot for all this interesting discussions. Of course, welcome to Dick. We have spoken quite often, I think, 2004, 2005, and thereafter. That's okay, I think. Dick is picking up here. With regard to my questions, first about the CapEx. The CapEx is, let me see, below the range of EUR 350. That does not include India, probably.

Is that a correct assumption? That my first question. Then two subjects, that's Americas, and that is about the LNG. About Americas, can you maybe update us with regards to Dow developments there, what you are seeing there, and how is the business going? Maybe to elaborate more on the impact of Ida on the third quarter. Then finally on the conversion in Los Angeles taking place, and how long it will take, and what the CapEx you think is, and is it expansion or is it maintenance?

On LNG, still clever guesses about Germany, because in my view, it's not a question of clients, but it's a question of environmental permits, and maybe it takes a long time, but it will come. Given all the geopolitical things we are seeing now, it's yeah, it cannot allow a delay there, I think, in my view. Maybe stepping out and have a passive role, it's very unclear to me who is picking up it then. Is that. Are you not happy with oil thinking. All that sort of things. Finally about your presentation. You said about Singapore, Hong Kong, LNG, but I miss Zhangjiagang. Is there maybe some. Is that also removed from the list? That were my questions.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Okay. Let me open up, Eelco, and then see how far we get, and then you pick-

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Sure.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Pick up Dow, I think, and one or two other points. Yeah?

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Yeah.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

First of all, Ida, we did take some charges in terms of cost in the Gulf of Mexico network, for which wouldn't be covered by insurance. Delta there in that we saw in the year-to-date number. Not material, but there was a negative charge of, I think about $2 million. There are other positives, by the way, in the numbers. It's a mix of not on Ida, but on the total numbers of Vopak. Hurricane Ida specific was a charge of $2 million. From a damage point of view, there's nothing to highlight, which is remarkable. The conversion in L.A., it's a relatively low CapEx conversion. We will label it as probably as growth CapEx. It goes into jet.

The multiple in terms of debt to EBITDA is, as we indicate before, this type of brownfield expansion can be very attractive, and that is reflected in the numbers. So it's consistent with how we guide on that. Hong Kong and progress, et cetera, and then you say, "What about China?" Zhangjiagang. Zhangjiagang is, as I said in the last two quarters already, has come to a slowdown. I think we'll not see a lot of progress on that in the foreseeable future. Therefore, as a business development opportunity, it's no longer on the list of very active. We do have other NBD activities which are active, as I already highlighted.

I think in the context of the LNG portfolio, because you then the logical question is, "Okay, how about the total?" I think the momentum is actually very positive. You always have a whole lot of opportunities, and then eventually you land a number of them. The one we are landing is Hong Kong. We've done the Gate expansion, as I said, 12.5%, the contract renewal in Mexico. We're actually quite happy about the LNG portfolio relative to our plan of developing the portfolio. We are on track, but not all of them are winners all the time. That is true. Eelco, will you pick up VIA and Germany again?

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Happy.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

The LNG point?

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Happy to do so.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Yeah.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Thanks for your remarks, Gerard. It tells me how well ING and Vopak investor relations, the fact that you've met already Dick in 2004. That's a nice story. Let me start off with the VIA insights. I think as you can imagine, there are three distinctive phases that we...

That we have to go through. The first phase is to get the deal. Well, we announced that already a year ago. Second phase is to integrate Via into the Vopak network and to obtain control over the assets. To run it as we run all our other terminals. Obviously being a carve-out and the first one on this industrial scale, I think it took a lot of effort and a lot of support from the network to get that organized. The third phase is a phase of growth and further development of that location, of those three locations. If I first turn the attention to the second phase, 'cause I think that we are sort of ending that period.

I think if you look at since the time that we started to run it, and it's coming close to a year, I think I have to compliment the VIA team and the management team there wholeheartedly, 'cause I think they've done an absolutely fantastic job in integrating VIA into Vopak. If you look at, I had a discussion with Dow only recently, in which senior management said that throughout the whole year, not a single safety or service incident was reported to the higher echelons and the C-suite of Dow. Meaning that we have been able to create grip and control to the levels that we expect and set ourselves a standard to, but also was recognized by Dow.

In addition to that, if you look at the integration of obviously the financial systems, the IT systems, safety systems, I think that is all behind us or mostly behind us. I think we run it now as a fully integrated terminal. That resonates a great deal of comfort. Particularly, if you look at the fact that we've seen also Ida raged over Louisiana, in which again, several months of uncertainty from a manufacturing perspective had to be managed. That phase has gone very well. I think I'm happy to say that also listening to the conversations with Dow, I think we had some recent meetings, is that the attention of Dow is turning towards growth.

I'm very excited about the sort of future prospects of how Dow wants to manage those manufacturing sites in the next 20 years, and that we are in a very strong position to jointly see how we can further develop those sites, both in the traditional vital products, but also look at new feedstocks and new opportunities that might come up there. I'm excited about VIA. I'll actually be there next week, Quirijn. Borders are opening up to have again an hands-on look together with Dick and see what's going on there. I hope that gives you a sense of how we've managed Dow. On German LNG, I think that Gerard already elaborated quite well on that.

I would like to say that we very much like the site. We see a line of sight on how to turn that particular location into an energy storage facility. I'd like to also turn your attention not only to the, I would say, the licensing and permitting part. We also see that the momentum commercially is not in full swing today. I just wanted to bring that as well to your attention, is that we said, you know, there are many good attributes to the project. We will support it, but we do that in a more passive manner until conditions might change for the better.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Thank you, Eelco. Quirijn, I forgot to answer your India question. The India number will very likely fall in 2022. However, it doesn't change anything to the statements I already made. CapEx this year, EUR 275 million, and next year, our committed numbers are below the range that you asked about and Amy earlier asked about. It's absorbed in the numbers that I gave you. It also, I wanna repeat it doesn't change the growth statements that we made on the EBITDA.

Quirijn Mulder
Director and Senior Analyst, ING

Yeah.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

It's all a matter of phasing and where it will fall, and cash flow wise, this year EUR 275, next year at the moment, currently approved below the range, including India.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Last comment, Quirijn, I can't help it. You know, I can't stress enough the strength of our network, where we are located. I think Gerard made a comment on Los Angeles. You see that we can turn fuel oil into jet fuel tanks, and if you look at LAX, that needs to be supplied with jet fuel for a longer period of time. Or if you look at Vlaardingen, where we convert tanks into biodiesel, or if you look at other industrial sites where we have new energy opportunities. I cannot stress enough the excitement that at least I feel in the existing locations and where the industry is heading towards. Thanks for the question.

Quirijn Mulder
Director and Senior Analyst, ING

Great. Thanks a lot.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

The next question, please.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Andre Mulder calling from Kepler. Please go ahead.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Good morning. First of all, I'm the last in the row to thank Eelco for the cooperation and your very friendly management style. I wish you success in your next career step. Dick , after all those years of meeting again, obviously you've grayed a bit. I've lost a few hairs here and there. I'm looking forward to talk to you again after such a long period. A couple of questions from my side. First question, Gerard, you mentioned this impact of the energy cost, the EUR 9 million. Is that a gross or a net amount? The-

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Sorry. Finish your question. Apologies. I will answer it in a second. Yeah.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay. On Gate, the refurb has now been finalized. Can you remind us about what the total cost has been? On the contribution of growth projects, can you remind us what the 2020 contribution was, and can you give us a bit more detail on how you see the split for 2022 and 2023? Looking at the columns that you provided in the presentations in H1 and Q3, it seems like most of the impact of a positive effect of the oil markets, a negative effect on chemicals, occurred in the first half. Any big changes there that you saw in Q3? It looks like that situation has been about flat.

A number question, you're mentioning a Forex effect in the first half, it was EUR 15 million. In the nine months number, I see 13, so that means it should be 2. But in the presentation, I see only 0.2, so I'm missing 2 million there. The last question on the reduced CapEx, can you give us a bit more detail on where that occurred?

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Okay. A whole lot of questions. I hope I can remember them all. The gross utility or net utility, this is a gross number. This is as recorded in the cost. In terms of Forex, I think you are correct, that the second to third quarter was 1.5-2. Fatjona is going to check whether the slide doesn't state that or whether we showed something different. Intuitively, I think you're right on that. The momentum of chemicals and oil between Q2 and Q3, you're right. I don't think there's a lot of difference, a bit of picking up, as Eelco earlier said, on the evidence points, a bit of more confidence in chemicals and throughputs.

In oil, a lot of inquiry, but very high volatility on the rates. You can see extremely low rates, and then occasionally you see a higher rate. A lot of volatility on that. Between the quarters, I think, as I said, a bit more momentum on chemicals. Between the years 2020 and 2021, year- to- date, the whole same statement as we've made several times still holds, which is soft market conditions if you combine it all. The momentum in the company has been from growth and cost management rather than from market sort of kicking in. The growth element could have been bigger if the markets, of course, were stronger at the moment that the growth comes in. That about.

About Gate's, you said how much approximately. I think in terms of cost about yeah a number somewhere below EUR 5 spread over the two to two quarters. Yeah. Q2 and Q3 in terms of cost in the LNG portfolio. I think you asked one more, but I have forgotten.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Two. Yeah, two.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Even worse.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

First is on the growth contribution. Can you remind us of-

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Oh, yeah.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

the number for 2020 and possibly some details on the split between 2022 and 2023. Then the last question was indeed the CapEx.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Yeah. The growth momentum is 35% year-to-date. It's relatively built up evenly over the quarters so far. We have seen a bit of an acceleration in Q3, but that is what it is. Now, I've forgotten the fourth question again or the last question. That was on the CapEx.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Now, first was this question on growth. Can you give a bit more detail on how you see it developing in 2022 and 2023?

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Oh, yeah.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Any statements on the split?

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

No, we don't split that out. We have 30-50 this year, top end of the range. We have in 2023 110-125. We don't split that out to not get overly focused on the year in between. It is a proper build up in the year in between, so it's not exactly proportional. I'm not going to break out the number in 2022.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Growth CapEx, the question was on the EUR 275.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Yeah. Why is it? It's phasing. It's just phasing of projects and momentum of the number of projects that are making up the totality. We're adding a few. We always make a bit of accommodation of new FIDs in our outlook for 2022. That's why I said EUR 300-EUR 350 on previous occasions might be possible. At the moment, we don't have that portfolio that qualifies for our investment criteria. However, it's not less than what we said before. The growth momentum is the same. The EUR 110-EUR 125 is kept whole. It is just the additions that we might see and will and may still see are not yet in the number. Yeah.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, thanks.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Yeah. There's nothing mysterious behind it. It's difficult to explain something that's not mysterious. It's routine. It's a routine update as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, it's phasing of CapEx and spend.

Andre Mulder
Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Thanks. Moderator, is there another question or have we reached the end of the queue?

Operator

We do have one further follow-up question if you're happy to take it.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

We can take one more question. Yes.

Operator

Thank you. The final question comes from the line of Thijs Berkelder calling from ABN AMRO. Please go ahead. Thijs, please ensure that your line is unmuted locally and go ahead with your question.

Thijs Berkelder
Senior Equity Analyst, ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF

Yeah, it was still on mute. Well, thanks, Eelco, for the time spent in this call, Gerard and Dick as well. Small follow-up questions. First, on other operating income, especially in the U.S., quite high. Can you explain where that other operating income is coming from? Secondly, Mexico, the new 10-year contract, in terms, are the rates higher or lower than the previous rates? Maybe then for Gerard, on the question of Andre, I would say look at slide 13, where you give a quite clear guidance for growth EBITDA, 2022 being, let's say, EUR 30 million. Maybe finally, Gerard, with strategic fuel Australia now ongoing, does it mean that you stopped the depreciation of Australia in reporting?

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

No, we've not stopped depreciation, Australia. It's early stage review, so it's not stopped. I'm just looking at your point on slide 13. What did I miss? Well, we didn't give an intermediate for it. Well, we shaded something. That is absolutely correct. But we didn't bridge it to give you a sort of sense of trying to measure that. Maybe we shouldn't have shaded. What we indicated is, yes, there's a contribution, but don't start measuring it and then recalculating it because it's just a holding coloring, not an indication of the size. Apologies if that is read differently. I'm a bit poor at remembering the questions.

Thijs Berkelder
Senior Equity Analyst, ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF

Mexico 10-year contract.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Oh, Mexico. I can tell you it's we're very pleased with it, that's for sure. It's an extremely important renewal where we can please the shareholder and the customer, which is always excellent. All the stakeholders are extremely happy about it. Everybody satisfied from their strategic and financial perspective. It's fair to say that I think it's arguably a critical renewal in the market that needs that gas. I think they are at fair prices to everybody concerned. We're not commenting on whether it's better or worse than previous contracts, Thijs, I'm afraid.

Thijs Berkelder
Senior Equity Analyst, ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF

The last one, Gerard, the other operating income.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

The other operating comp-

Thijs Berkelder
Senior Equity Analyst, ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF

In the United States.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Income, I have to come back on because I don't know that off the top of my head, but, T hijs, we'll take that separately. Apologies for that.

Thijs Berkelder
Senior Equity Analyst, ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF

Okay, no problem.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

I think we'll look into it. I think it has to do with the way that the Corpus Christi income is recorded, which is the new asset that is come onstream. I think that's the majority of it, but we'll come back to it.

Thijs Berkelder
Senior Equity Analyst, ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF

Very good.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

It's the accounting treatment of Corpus Christi.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Exactly. Okay. Thanks, Thijs. Molly, is this the last question? Oh, one more. The last one then.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Okay.

Operator

We have no further questions in the queue at the moment, but I do understand that Juri Zanieri from Kempen does have a question, so I'll unmute your line. Please go ahead.

Juri Zanieri
Equity Research Analyst for European Infrastructure, Kempen & Co

Yeah, thanks. You know, I tried to submit the question already a couple of times, but apparently it was not being taken. Well, of course, most of the question were already answered. I just had a very quick follow-up. Before that, I want to do congrats to Eelco for being such a solid pillar at Vopak for so many years. Of course, I'm wishing you all the best for your future adventure. One of them follow up would have been on the strategic option for the Australian terminal. Would you consider also to divest even more of the others minor terminals you have across your network and, specifically for oil?

I was wondering if you also can give a bit of color on why the Sydney and Deer Park terminals have been postponed commissioning and whether you're comfortable to commission it by year-end and Q1. Any colors in general would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Okay. Thanks, Juri. Let me take Australia and then, Gerard will take the Deer Park question. Let me put Australia in a wider context. I think that already strategically, we've taken the choice several years ago that we would move the network of Vopak more towards chemicals, gas and industrial. The reason why we had that view is that we think that chemicals has a long longevity 'cause it's used in so many manufacturing applications that we think it will have a long future ahead, particularly if you look at the energy, sorry, the chemical density per capita in different growing markets.

I think second of all, we wanted to invest more in gas because if you look at where the energy transition is heading, you see that the heavier hydrocarbons are replaced by by lighter hydrocarbon chains. Most importantly, I think if you look at new energy and you look at products like hydrogen or you look at CO2 or you take ammonia, a lot of the new energy applications are in a gas gaseous form. It means that if you have gas capabilities and gas opportunities, it plays very well into that new energy mindset. The same holds for industrial terminals.

I think if you look at how the energy transition will take place, it is our humble opinion that it's most likely not first in the transport sector, but more in the industrial sector because the hard to abate sectors need to move first and have the balance sheet to invest against that idea. Us being in those industrial sites globally puts us at the forefront of the transition. That has always been our thinking in the last few years. With the oil terminals, and obviously the question is how do you deal with those? I think and there are two ways of looking at that.

I think first of all, we still believe that oil has a role to play and that there's, and with the increased volatility in the refining sector, we expect that the oil opportunities will be quite interesting. It will be a more volatile environment and therefore companies like Vopak will be an essential part of trading outfits and refiners to balance out their positions. I think we want to still have an opportunity in oil, but obviously you need to take also a long term view on what type of oil assets you have. We've taken a decision first of all to, if you look at that, to sell oil assets which are in OECD countries, whereby the change in the energy balance will be the quickest.

That's why we sold U.K., we sold Sweden, we sold Estonia, Hamburg, Spain. Our view is that we need to be mindful of the position of our distribution terminals in OECD countries. I think Australia plays just into that thought. It's a well-run asset. We're even expanding it. It has, let's say, an exceptional good position in Australia. But we just like to test sort of what is the long-term strategic value of Australia and the network of Vopak looking at where we're heading. That gives a little bit of color on to Australia. There's not much more to say than that at this stage.

Gerard Paulides
CFO, Royal Vopak

Okay, Juri, apologies if you didn't manage to get in the queue for the question, but you're in now, so I think that makes that good. In terms of Deer Park, there's not a lot more than that. It is a partial commissioning. Part of Deer Park is now live, and from the 33,000 cu m , that is 23. It's a partial commissioning, which is operationally driven.

Eelco Hoekstra
CEO, Royal Vopak

Thanks. Thanks, Gerard. With your permission, Molly, I expect that there's no further questions that are on the register. With that, I would like to take this opportunity to close off the call. First of all, my gratitude and thanks to everyone in the call. It's been 11 great years in which we had an opportunity to exchange ideas and thoughts, not only indeed, as Quirijn was mentioning within this setting of video calls or capital market days, but also I fully enjoyed all of your presence during the different trips that we had or the lunches that we enjoyed. I just wanted to thank you for that.

I feel very grateful having the opportunity to work and meet you all. This is also a good opportunity just to wish Dick a great deal of success, and a great deal of good opportunities again to elevate Vopak to a higher level, because I'm sure that with his background, his energy and dedication, Vopak is again in exceptionally good hands. Thanks again, and we'll see each other no doubt in another time and another place. Till then, goodbye.

Operator

Thank you for joining today's call. You may now disconnect your lines.

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