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Earnings Call: H2 2025

Aug 29, 2025

Moderator

Finally, I would like to advise all participants that this call is being recorded. Thank you. I'd now like to welcome Joe Coote, CEO, to begin the conference. Joe, over to you.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Thank you very much. Welcome, everybody, this morning to the Bubs Australia FY 2025 results presentation. My name's Joe Coote. I'm the CEO of Bubs, and I'm joined this morning by Naomi Verloop. We appreciate you taking time to join us. If we could tab, please. And tab again. Just as we get started, we wanted to do an acknowledgement of country. As Bubs, we acknowledge the traditional custodians of the lands on which we operate, and we pay our respects to elders past and present. If we could tab, please. Just as we get started, I just wanted to acknowledge that I'm the new CEO at Bubs. I've been in my role for five weeks. It's been a busy time. I do have over 30 years of experience in and around consumer products, dairy industry, and infant formula, actually.

I've admired the Bubs business as an outsider looking in, and after five weeks, it's great to be on the inside. I've spent a lot of time getting out, meeting our people. I have traveled to our three major markets, being based here in Melbourne. Obviously, I've been to the Australian retail partners that we have, but I've also taken time and traveled with our chair across to the U.S. and also up into China. I'll share more on that as we go through the presentation this morning. I'm really focused on our people, get to understand our people all through the business, our partners, primarily our retail partners, but we have a lot of supply partners as well. We obviously have important partners in the U.S. like the FDA. I'm also very focused on understanding how the business is performing and what our results are today that I'll share.

I'm very proud to share those results. For me, the category we play in is a precious category in a lot of respects. It's a category in the grocery sector that requires the highest trust of any item that you'd see in a grocery store. It's a very special thing for a mother to choose our product and give the sole source of nutrition from our product for her new baby. We sort of take that very seriously. It's also a category that has attractive returns. For me, that duality of the trust we have in the category and being an attractive returning category as well make it very appealing. I'm going to hand over now to, if we could tab across, to Naomi, our CFO.

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

Thanks, Joe. Really pleased to be here today for the second time to be presenting our full-year results for FY 2025. I've been on deck now for about six months, and in that time, I've been really strongly focused on building capability and process, not only within my team but also across the wider business. This has included having a strong focus on our S&OP processes as well as our IBP, or integrated business planning, processes to really make sure that we've got our forecasting, our budgeting processes, and all of our standard monthly reporting operating as smoothly as possible. The key focus for me over the last six months has really been all about building operational resilience and making sure that we put together the right strategic objectives going forward that are going to build long-term profitability and working capital benefits for the group.

Happy to be here today and take you through the results with Joe.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Thanks, Naomi. If we could tab. Yeah, this morning what we will take you through is firstly the FY 2025 financial results. We'll then offer some commentary on the key markets that we operate in, and finally we'll close out with some discussion on a strategy update. If we could tab to kick things off, I'm really proud to share that Bubs as a business in FY 2025 has delivered the commitments that we made to the market. We're very proud of these results, and we've shared that with our teams that operate and represent us around the world. There are really four key areas that I would call out, and these are commitments that were made by our business through the FY 2025 year. I'm very happy to report that our total revenue exceeded the commitment to exceed $100 million, and we landed at $102.5 million, which was a great result.

Our gross profit percentage we committed to the market that we'd exceed 40%, and we actually came in at 48%, so some over-delivery there that we're proud of. Moving through to underlying EBITDA, we committed to deliver a positive underlying EBITDA, and we did that. We've delivered $0.6 million. Finally, on positive operating cash flow, we delivered $6.1 million. Together that's a great result for FY 2025 that we're proud to share more on this morning, and we'll get to that as we tab through. The other part that we'll cover and just offer some early comments on is a forward focus. What I'm focused on at the moment as the new CEO, given I'm five weeks in, is really assessing the business performance.

As I said, getting to know our people, our partners, drilling into some of the performance, and also keeping an eye on the dynamic global environment that we are all operating in currently. I think we're all aware there's a fair amount of macroeconomic challenge. If we, as an example, look at the cost of living crisis that we experience here in Australia, that's impacting consumers. If we look a little bit offshore, some of the geopolitical challenges, we are keeping a close eye on the U.S. environment and particularly the tariffs. It's a dynamic environment that we operate in, and more than 80% of our business is now outside of Australia, so we do really watch the global environment. Moving forward, we're looking to step up our ambition. We're really a business that's seeking to realize our full potential.

Over the next few months, I'll be working with the team to look at a strategy update, to look at how we can map out what full potential would be for Bubs , and then set out a pathway to look at how we can align our resources to execute against that plan. That is something that I'm working on with the team. It's a top priority apart from delivering the day in, day out business. Our plan is to bring that back and share it with the market in late November. That's the forward focus that we have currently. If we could tab, I'm just going to hand over to Naomi now to take us through some of the FY 2025 numbers.

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

Thanks, Joe. Looking to the P&L, we've obviously got headline results as Joe just mentioned of revenues up to $102.5 million and our underlying EBITDA at $0.6 million with baseline EBITDA coming in at $5.5 million. Revenues were up overall about 29%. USA was the biggest driver of this. Overall, we've seen a $22.8 million increase in group revenues since FY 2024, and approximately $18 million of this is growth coming from the USA. Our products, especially our goat skews, are performing very well over there, and we're still number one in terms of our infant formula goat skew on Amazon. Looking at gross profit, we are up in terms of gross profit dollars 27%.

As we continue to deliver in the USA market, our volume mix and margin focus shifts to international markets, and especially in the US, we see that market being highly profitable with a much better contribution margin compared to the other markets we operate in. Looking to operating expenses, you can see that they're down about 23%. There's been a large focus this year on cost reduction activities, really optimizing our spend and looking at where we need to spend and being really strategic about that. Included in the numbers as well is credit recoveries of $3.1 million that mainly relate to a provision release for the Alice and Willis legal settlement. We were allowed to set off certain assets and liabilities as part of the judgment that came through on that legal settlement, and that allowed us to book in a gain of $3 million.

Overall, EBITDA therefore came in at $5.5 million versus the $20.3 million loss in FY 2024, which was a significant uplift. Looking down to the underlying EBITDA number, that is $0.6 million. Basically, that $0.6 million number is derived by adding back $3 million for the Alice and Willis provision, another $0.6 million relating to Alice and Willis, which was booked through to other income as a gain. We also had $1.3 million of an insurance claim that came through in the current financial year. Backing out those one-off items, the underlying EBITDA result came in at $0.6 million. Just switching now to the balance sheet.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

If we could tab, please.

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

I think you can see that it's a fairly capital-light balance sheet that we have here at Bubs . Most of the assets and liabilities that we have are current in nature and form part of the working capital cycle. You can see that trade and other receivables, we've managed to contain that to $10.6 million from $9.3 million in FY 2024. That was despite the significant uplift in revenues over the year. There's been a really, really strong focus on cash collections and following up on overdues, which has allowed us to ensure that we've maintained that balance fairly similar to prior period. Inventories, you can see, are significantly lower. We've reached a low point in our inventory cycle.

As we look ahead into FY 2026, we'll be looking to build up inventories again, and that will put some pressure on our operating cash flow over the first half of the year. Looking at trade and other payables, they've also decreased by $7.4 million. That's partly driven by this decrease in inventories that you see. There's also been a little bit of timing differences on our goat solid purchases, which instead of coming in at the end of June, they're now going to be coming in over the course of the first quarter. You can also see that borrowings have been eliminated during the year. We did repay in Q4 approximately $5 million that we had drawn on the $10 million facility we have with NAB. As at the end of 30 June 2025, we now have that full $10 million facilities available to us.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

If we could tab, please.

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

Looking now at our cash flows, it's been a strong year on cash for Bubs , and our continued focus on working capital management has helped us achieve this. Net cash from operating activities was positive for the year at $6.1 million versus the net cash used in prior period of $26.3 million, so an improvement of over $20 million. That was largely driven by higher revenues, which consequently then led to higher receipts from customers. You can see there that receipts have increased about $26 million year on year, and a lot of that growth obviously being driven by the U.S. market, which is our core market at the moment. Payments to suppliers also decreased $6.6 million. That is due to the tight focus on working capital and also diligent supply-demand planning.

I will point out to the fact that we are at a low point again on our inventory cycle, and we will be looking to build up inventories over the coming months. Overall, cash position has improved really significantly. You can see total cash and cash equivalents at the end of the period $17.4 million, just $0.1 million down from where we landed at FY 2024, which was $17.5 million. That is a great result given that we've repaid the borrowings, and obviously there was no share issue completed this year. A solid result for the business.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Tab, please.

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

Looking ahead to the next slide, we're focusing here on our group revenues and the trajectory over the last three years. You can see that 81% of our sales are now driven by overseas markets, and we've achieved a CAGR over the three-year period of approximately 30.6%. Again, as I've said, the U.S. business has gone from 40% of our group revenues up to 52%, and that's all driven by our strong footprint in retail outlets as well as online via Amazon. Within the U.S. market itself, we've seen a CAGR growth over the three-year period of approximately 49.1%. If we look next at China, it's holding steady at around 21% of group revenues.

China has achieved a CAGR over the three-year period of 24.4%, and that's mainly been achieved by focusing on our cross-border e-commerce channel as well as our Online to Offline expansion into a number of new stores over the course of FY 2025. If we look ahead to Australia, we could see Australia declining a little bit to 19% of group revenues, and that makes sense in line with our strategy to not only focus on our home market but to diversify the business and grow our revenues overseas also. Australia continues to do well in the infant formula space, and our underlying revenues for infant formula were up 10% year on year. Over the three-year period, we achieved a CAGR of 6.8% in Australia. The rest of the world tracking nicely as well, still holding fairly consistent at about 8% of the total group revenues.

We're seeing Vietnam and Japan as our main markets over there. They make up about 75%- 80% of the revenues in the rest of the world, and those markets we have seen go up over the three-year period by a CAGR of approximately 27.5%.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Tab, please.

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

This next slide here actually gives us an overview of underlying gross profit. You can see on the face of the P&L, we actually talked baseline gross profit numbers, but if we look at the underlying position, you can see the trajectory over the three-year period moving from 30% on an underlying basis in FY 2023 up to 41% in FY 2024, and FY 2025 landing at 48%, which our baseline is pretty much the same as the underlying for the period. We've continued to have a strong focus on margin mix and market. Obviously, the US having a very high contribution margin as we lift revenues in that space, we have consequently seen an uplift in the gross margin percentage.

You can see that prior year gross profit percentages there have been normalized for releases made against inventory positions and whilst making product and ingredients sales we've had to do in prior periods. Looking ahead, we sort of expect margins to normalize around that 40%- 45% range as we absorb tariffs and look to meet customer demand as quickly as possible in the US, which has the potential for us to potentially be looking at air freight as we go into Q1 of FY 2026.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Tab, please.

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

Now, looking across at cash flow, it's been a good story. Operating cash flows have been positive for the last three quarters. We've ended the year at about $6.1 million of positive operating cash flow. Obviously, that's all been led by the higher receipts for the year as well as that discipline on working capital management. We will be building up inventories over the course of the first half, in particular the first quarter, in order to meet the U.S. demand and growth. We can also see that net working capital as a percentage of sales has sort of reached a low point at 22.6%, significantly lower than prior year. That again is due to that low point in the inventory cycle whilst trying to meet the growing demand in sales volumes, in particular from the U.S.

As I said previously, we do expect OCF to be impacted in the coming months as we rebuild for FY 2026.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Tab, please. Yeah, thanks, Naomi. Appreciate that. If we move through now to update on the market and if we tab again, kick off with our largest market now, as Naomi shared, over 52% of the Bubs business, the U.S. market. It's a market that I personally know very well, having spent the last eight years living up there before returning to Australia with my family. Yeah, very happy to say if you look at that picture on the top right, you know we've got a very extensive coverage across what is a geographically large country. We also have the online presence as well through Amazon. Over 5,700 stores across the major banners, which is a really great achievement by the team. I was up there recently, you can see on the bottom right in one of the Target stores with Katrina, our Chair.

Target's a really key driver of infant formula in the U.S., but in particular this premium natural subsegment that is growing significantly at the moment. Target's really a destination for mums. Infant formula and other baby items are really one of their key categories. They're one of our key partners. If you take that into the numbers, you know we're number one on Amazon with goat infant formula. We're really positive about this market. As Naomi said, it's high value. We believe we can continue to grow. That premium segment, which at $770 million is about 10% of the total category. Within that premium natural segment is goat, where we're a large player. $189 million of the $770 million, and we're 26% of that goat subcategory. As we all would be aware with the U.S., we are monitoring closely. There's quite a lot of activity around tariffs and trade.

We're just really keeping a watch on that. If we could tab over, I'll talk more about some of the exciting work that we've done with the recent submittal of our new infant formula, looking for permanent access to the U.S. market through the FDA. Most people would be aware that this started back in May 2022. When I walked into my office, actually, here at Bubs, I saw a picture of the tweet that President Biden sent in May of 2022, which really was the key start point where we flew infant formula into the U.S. to help with their supply issues. If you look at those milestones on the right-hand side of the slide, you can track our progress in participating in the market and then now moving to having lodged a submission for permanent access to the market through the FDA.

It's been quite an involved process, but the team's done a great job to work that through. Over the course of the last two years, you know we've done some great work. I did just want to share one of the highlights for me is around the infant growth study that we completed in December 2024. This is a very expansive study. The study that we did is the largest of its kind ever conducted in the U.S. These studies look at positive results around healthy growth, which is length, weight, and circumference of head, actually. Looked at the tolerance for the baby in terms of a gentle tummy, is what we all like to have a good night's sleep, and then overall satisfaction. Just sharing there in that picture, the three formulations that we have submitted, the B100 on the left is our grass product, bovine, so cow.

The B200 is goat, which is in the middle in the blue. On the right is our essential product, which is also a cow or a bovine product. You can see there that very, very strong feedback in terms of satisfaction. Particularly along that bottom line, the response is to, I would likely or very likely recommend this formula, very, very high marks there. We feel confident we've got something to go to market share. We've made our final submission. It's with the FDA, and we expect to receive notification on that before the end of this calendar year. If we could tab. China is another great market for Bubs. We've been there for a number of years. It's one of our core markets, and I visited there recently as well. It's a very dynamic and competitive market. There are a lot of players.

A lot of the business is done on e-commerce. There's over 1,200 infant formula brands. With that said, there is still a lot of general trade as well. That picture there of the general trade store was a store that I visited with the team, a store based in a city called Hefei, which is 147 km west of Shanghai. It's a city of 10 million people. It's the 18th largest city in China, but it's got one of the top five cities for birth rate in China. It's a city that's particularly of interest to us. It was amazing to see the, again, the duality of the channels there. A lot of folks are transacting on the e-commerce, but in these communities, these mother and baby stores as well are really a popular channel to go and source your product.

Now, also, if you look down on the bottom left, we also have an adult product in China, which is our Cadillac product. It also sells well. It takes us into another segment of the market, which is healthy aging in the adult space. It's another area that we're quite proud of what the team has achieved. The thing, you know, the two channels we operate in primarily is the cross-border e-commerce. We've had a great result there where the team has seen our business grow against the category that's declined. We've got a great team that manages that business very effectively. If you go to the general trade, we operate in the O2O element of general trade, which is offline to online. We've ranged into 1,315 stores across 99 cities. We're very happy and confident of the progress that we're making in China.

We've got great brand equity and sustainable growth and margins. Tab, please. Moving through into the Australian market, obviously our home market. It's a market that has been reducing as a relative percentage, but it's still our core home market. Very pleased to report that as I've been out to three major retail channel partners, and that's a photograph there on the top right from one of our channel partners, our product on shelf looks great. We've done some enhancements to our range this year. We have launched our essential product, which is in some other markets, but we've released that here in Australia as well. It's really taken us into a different segment of the infant formula market, which is the mainstream. It's really resonating with the consumers. It's at a keen price point, and it has a Clean Label Purity Award, which is also resonating with consumers.

We feel really positive about where we're at in the Australian market. We're holding our number one position with over 50% of the goat infant formula. We feel really confident in those partnerships we have with the three large retailers in our space. Tab, please. Slide 19. Our other segment is rest of the world. This covers a number of countries, but we are predominantly currently 78% of our revenues coming from Japan and Vietnam. There's a lot of other countries that we have aspiration to grow within. A lot of these countries are within Asia and the Middle East, typically with large populations, growing GDP per capita. They tend to have fairly high birth rates. There is quite a growing subsegment in the premium infant formula space for imported product. Australia, as an origin, is highly desirable, and our products do resonate.

We're very proud of the partnership that we have with our Japanese partner. We sell, as you can see there on the top right, on the Rakuten channel, which is an e-commerce channel. We have a number of very loyal consumers up in Japan, and we're hoping to grow with those consumers and have a larger presence in the Japan market over time. Vietnam as well, a country of over 100 million people, a very young population, relatively high birth rate. We're really excited about the growth of our Vietnamese business. I met this week, actually, with our Vietnamese distributor, and we're working on planning out the next 12 months, extending our reach in the general trade, looking to grow our business in Vietnam. It's a competitive market, but it's a market that we have been in for a while, and we do have some good brand equity.

We're looking forward to continue to partner and grow in Vietnam as well. Other priority markets are Malaysia, which again is a high-value market, strong GDP per capita and birth rates and formula participation rates. The other one that I'd mention is Canada, obviously an adjacency to the U.S. Again, a high-value market, large population, not a lot of locally produced formula up in Canada. There's a desire to look at our goat products, and we are working with some of the retailers up there to launch our products late in the second half of FY 2026. If we could tab down to slide 20, give some updates on our strategy. If we tab again to slide 21. Just linking into update on our five-point strategy, which we've been tracking since August 2023, coming into two years. Happy to report that we're tracking well against those five areas.

There's been some significant progress and some milestones that have been achieved that we're very proud of. I'll share some of those now. If we just start on the left-hand side with U.S. as our growth engine. It's been an amazing journey there. As Naomi headlined, a year-on-year revenue growth, 52%. It's also not just a market that's growing with volume and price, but there is some nice margin there. We feel really positive about our prospects in the U.S. market. As I shared, we have issued our application to the FDA for permanent market access. Moving across to China, we did undertake a reset. I think we're well and truly we've cycled through those dynamics from the reset. We do have a great team up there led by a gentleman called Jackie. Spent some time with him and his team in Shanghai.

They achieved a 22% year-on-year revenue growth last year, as I shared. We've really grown our position from cross-border e-commerce into the O2O channel, as I mentioned. We've got some great plans that we will continue to progress and execute in that China market. Moving to portfolio optimization, we've really sharpened up our portfolio over the last two years. We're quite focused. We have our goat product. We have some different offers around the bovine products. As I mentioned as well, I did show that photograph in the China market with the adult product, which is a goat powder for adult, which the brand is Cadillac. That's also a significant business for us. In the past 12 months, we've refreshed our artwork and packaging. You can see there, quite a sharp portfolio of products that really stands out as a brand block when you see us on shelf.

It's something that the consumers are. It's appealing to the consumers, and we feel really good about that refresh. If you move forward to sweating our assets, we have a great facility. We're located here today with Naomi down in Deloraine in Dandenong in southeast of Melbourne. It's a great facility built to very high standards. It has some capacity that we can grow into. It generates an efficient unit cost, and it produces really high-quality products. We now will continue to drive that asset to higher utilization and efficiency. It gives us a great platform from which to take our high-quality Australian products to the markets around the world. Finally, working capital, and Naomi did talk a lot about this. Some really significant milestones have been achieved in the last 12 months, as I headlined and Naomi shared a little more on.

We're very proud of achieving positive cash flow, positive EBITDA, significant milestones. Naomi did also flag that with our growth aspirations and with inventory being at a low point in the cycle, we are keeping a very close eye on that. We're really looking to deliver highest possible service to our customers around the world. From an Australian base, we've got a long, thin supply chain that we operate. We'll continue to invest in service to those customers around the world. That's where we've been, and it's been a great achievement by the team. If we tab over to slide 22, which will be the last slide for today before we break and take some questions, this is a focus for me over the coming weeks and months. We do have a plan to come back to the market late November to share a strategy update.

As I said at the start of the call, we'll be looking to plot a path to take Bubs Australia to its full potential. In doing that, we would recognize that we'll be elevating our ambition. We'll be aligning our capabilities to execute that ambition and really deliver value for our shareholders, which ultimately, if I start at the bottom of the page, is why we're all here. We really are focused on generating shareholder value, and we believe this strategy update will show a clear path on where we see the opportunities and where we'll plot out some milestones to realize those opportunities and execute against that plan. If I just go over the top there, for me, it all starts with having a clear purpose, having a really clear vision for the future, and then really being clear on the values that we live to.

We've got a great brand. A lot of our values are derived from our brand. We've got a great founder story. We're a brand that's for mums. We've got a great DNA. We stand for gentle tummies and natural, clean-labeled products. We really want to make sure that we all anchor into that as a platform around our purpose, vision, and values. From there, we go and we do a great job connecting with our customers and consumers. Typically, our customers are mums, our consumers are Bubs. Sometimes dads buy formula as well. It's for the whole family, obviously, but it's really about that trust. As I said at the start of the call, the infant formula category calls for the highest levels of trust in any grocery store. That's what we hold core. We'll be looking at mapping the markets, understanding how we continue to grow our brand equity.

We do have a great brand. We're really proud to take that brand out to the world. Then it's about understanding the customer journey. When people are aware of our brand, how do we take them through the customer journey, through awareness to using our products, and ultimately, you know, deciding to feed their baby our products through that first year of life for the child? That's essentially through that customer journey. We're also very focused on innovation. We've got some great things in the pipeline. We'll share more on that as we move forward. That'll be a core focus, and it really starts with the consumer and the brand, how they connect. From there, we look to work out how we go to market. Moving to the right, which is really about how we activate our marketing, primarily digital activation, some physical activation in store.

A lot of the connections that we build with our prospective consumers and our current consumers is around digital. We have some really great team members who really focus on that. We're very active at monitoring that spend and looking at the attribution of that spend and where we can get the greatest return. We'll be very targeted in where we invest. We'll look at certain geographies, but even, you know, countries like the U.S. and China, you have to look geographically beyond the country. In some cases, we're getting down to a city level. We're looking at demographics and psychographics, and we're really looking at where is the Bubs consumer, how can we reach out to them, and how can we bring them in to become consumers where we have a cost to acquire them.

For the period of time they're with us, typically up to a year when that baby's in those early stages, what's the lifetime value that we derive from that consumer? We'll look at our product range, the channels that we reach. There's a mix of online and physical retail stores. We'll also look at who we partner with. An example in the U.S., the Target store is really a massive destination for mothers, not just for infant formula, but for other baby items like clothing and wipes and diapers, as they call them in the U.S., or nappies here in Australia. That's a really important part of our strategy. From there, we'll look at our supply chain, which is really how we source right back at farm, really high-quality milk here in Australia, where we have great partners on farm. Look at our manufacturing assets and our manufacturing partners.

As I said, we have a great asset here in Deloraine. Then we've got that long, thin supply chain as we take products up to the U.S. and China. We do a lot of shipping containers. Occasionally, we do some air freight. We obviously try and minimize that, but we really want to continue those really high standards of quality and service. We want to be reliable for our customers and our consumers. Ultimately, for our shareholders, we want to be really efficient. We want to do that with our percentage of cost in different elements of the supply chain that benchmark against close to best practices. If we move one step forward, it's really important, particularly in the infant formula space, that we work across our industry peers, particularly healthcare professionals and regulators. A lot of mums turn to the healthcare providers for advice when they're making decisions.

It's really important that healthcare professionals are aware of who we are. They're able to set choices out for the mums. We hope that the mums make decisions to come and try our products. When we do a great job, they stay with us. We also have to work with the regulators. FDA in the U.S. is a great example of that. We've been doing a lot of work with the FDA. Really, also at the end of the day, nothing happens without a great team. There is a great team within Bubs . We have a great culture. We aspire to be an even higher performing team. That's something that we'll work on as well. Obviously, we work with our trading partners, primarily downstream from us, the retailers. We've got some great partners like here in Australia, Coles, Woolworths, and Chemist Warehouse.

I've mentioned Target a few times, Walmart in the U.S. We have a number of channel partners up in China. We'll continue to invest in those relationships and ensure that we're a great partner for them as well and that together we can service the needs of our customers and consumers. We'll be mapping that out as we look at the strategy. Just closing with a really razor-sharp focus on shareholder value. We're doing this to service mums, but ultimately to provide an economic return to our shareholders as well. We will be, you know, very clear on where we see the value and where we're investing to look at an economic return and ultimately to deliver total shareholder return. I will stop there. I think we're coming in quite aligned with the one hour that we have, which will give us about 15 minutes for some questions.

I'll close there and say thank you and hand back to the moderator to switch us across to some questions. Thank you.

Moderator

If you wish to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. That is star one if you wish to ask a question. Your first question comes from the line of Jonathan Snape from Bell Potter. Your line is open.

Jonathan Snape
Research Analyst, Bell Potter

Hi. Can you hear me okay?

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Yes, Jonathan, we can hear you.

Jonathan Snape
Research Analyst, Bell Potter

Great. Can I just ask a question? Because I've heard you talk a couple of times about this long supply chain in terms of inventory and stuff like that. I'm looking at the inventory numbers here today, and I'm seeing finished stock down 26% year on year if I'm looking at days covered. Your ingredients, you know, down 56% year on year, and the prepayments in the balance sheet down more than 80% year on year. I'm trying to reconcile 20% type growth that I think consensus has in there for next year and this rapid downdraft in your, I guess, stock levels, both finished and the stuff that has to come through and how that ties up with it.

Is there any color you can give on how fast that downdraft is, how quick you can get it back up, and how it kind of aligns with your expectations for how things should phase, like first half, second half next year?

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

Yeah, you're right on that. You can see that inventories are down and overall, we've gone from $28 million to $20 million. You could easily say that is low. Basically, the reason for that is the sharp uplift in demand we saw in the last quarter of Q4 FY 2025 where we had out of stock with one of our key competitors, Kendamil. That switched over a lot of their customers to us. We actually ran down a lot of our safety stocks over that period. By the time we ended 30 June 2024, we had a sharp decline in our inventories. At the moment, it's our first priority to rebuild those back up. We think that's going to take about three to five months to fully execute.

I did mention in the call that there is a position that we might need to air freight to get product to customers on time. We have done analysis on that, and it's still a positive variable contribution margin for us. We're fully committed to meeting that demand and ensuring that we don't lose those consumers as we go through the inventory build process.

Jonathan Snape
Research Analyst, Bell Potter

Okay. Do you have an idea on what that Kendamil kick was to you in the fourth quarter?

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

I would say that we've actually managed to convert around 20% of those sales. We've actually seen an uplift in our revenues that has continued since that period, and we've been able to maintain a broad baseline. There was a kick-up from Q3, and we've been able to maintain about 20%- 25% of those consumers.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Yeah, it's a tough category in that respect where if a mum typically can't buy the formula and she switches, it's not uncommon to stay with where she switched to. I think we've benefited from some of that pain that Kendamil has felt. That's a dynamic in the category that we're all very familiar with.

Jonathan Snape
Research Analyst, Bell Potter

All right. Can I just ask around margins? Gross margin first half was 50%. I think full year is 48%. This is probably, what, 45%, 46% in the second half. Marketing came down quite a lot as well in terms of spending from that kind of 15%, 16% level down to 9% in the second half. When you're looking forward, is the 45% the starting point? We have to think about how tariffs impact that because that looks like it could be a 500 basis point move if there's no price increase on the other side of it. How do you think about marketing, where that investment should be as well?

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Yeah, I'll start first and maybe Naomi can color with some numbers. The way we think about marketing and particularly the U.S., we have an opportunity to keep really expanding and building our brand equity. This premium natural subcategory is growing. While it's growing and it's a new subsegment, we need to be there. We want to be there. We are very committed to investing in that position. We are investing more going forward than we have in the past few quarters on that basis. We're very confident there's a strong ROI for that investment. In terms of any other color on the numbers, Naomi, would you add anything else?

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

Yeah, I think just in terms of the marketing, we're trying to be very strategic on it. We're looking at our key markets and our core markets. Obviously, with the U.S.A., we've been in that market for around two or three years. We know that the market that we're focusing on, they're only in the game for max one year. You really only have that consumer for nine to twelve months. That means that we still do need to have a focus on brand building and marketing and promotional spend. We will be focusing on that in FY 2026 and beyond to make sure that we keep on growing our customer base.

Jonathan Snape
Research Analyst, Bell Potter

What does that kind of mean for margins? Is the GM's 40%-45% marketing sounds like it's going up from the 9% level that it was in the second half. Distribution, depending on whether you air freight, it's what, about flat to + 100 bps or that kind of move.

Naomi Verloop
CFO, Bubs Australia

Bubs components that you're talking about actually sit within the gross profit level rather than down below the line. You know, when I look at trade spend, you know, there is going to be uplifts in certain markets as we look to be strategically focused in the U.S. Overall, I would say that gross profits are going to be in the range of 40%- 45% as we absorb tariffs and air freight, potential air freight that we need to do in the first couple of quarters of the year.

Jonathan Snape
Research Analyst, Bell Potter

Great. Thank you. I appreciate it. You know, you are a few guys and you're not going to get it all sorted from the office here, but thank you for the time.

Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Thank you.

Moderator

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Joe Coote
CEO, Bubs Australia

Thank you, everybody. We appreciate you taking time. We're very proud of the results that the team has delivered. We're excited about the future. We hope to re-engage in late November. I know we do have a series of meetings lined up over the next few weeks, and we look forward to meeting some of you folks. We appreciate your support for our business. Thank you. Have a great rest of the day.

Moderator

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