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Earnings Call: H1 2025

Feb 6, 2025

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Charter Hall Long WALE REIT 2025 Half Year Results briefing. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question-and-answer session, at which time, if you wish to queue for a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. Please note that this conference is being recorded today, Friday the 7th, February 2025. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host today, Mr. Avi Anger, Diversified CEO. Thank you, sir. Please go ahead.

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Charter Hall Long WALE REIT Results Presentation for the first half of FY 2025. Presenting with me today is Scott Martin, Head of Long WALE REIT Finance. I'd like to commence today's presentation with an acknowledgment of country. Charter Hall acknowledges the traditional custodians of the lands on which we work and gather. We pay our respects to elders past and present and recognize their continued care and contribution to country. The format for today's presentation is that I will start with an overview of CLW and key highlights for the half. You will then hear from Scott, who will provide an overview of the financial performance of the REIT. I will then return to provide an operational update, portfolio overview, and provide an update on guidance for FY 2025. We will then offer the opportunity for questions. Turning now to slide four.

Today, CLW has a best-in-class AUD 5.5 billion diversified real estate portfolio secured by long leases to blue-chip tenants with a weighted average lease term, or WALE, of 9.7 years. Our portfolio has an occupancy level of 99.8% and continues to be diversified by tenant, industry, geography, and property type, which contributes to the stability of our cash flow. Our portfolio has delivered strong like-for-like net property income growth of 3.5% over the prior corresponding period. As at 31 December, CLW had 53% of income from triple-net lease properties. This is an important feature of our portfolio, given that under a triple-net lease structure, the tenant is responsible for all outgoings, maintenance, and capital expenditure. The security of income of the REIT is also reinforced by the high-quality income stream generated from blue-chip tenants, with 99% of the tenants of the REIT consisting of government, ASX-listed multinational or national businesses.

Our largest tenants are Endeavour Group, Federal and State Governments, Telstra, and BP. Turning now to slide five and key highlights for the half-year. I'm pleased to report that we delivered operating earnings of AUD 12.50 per security for the half-year, in line with guidance for the full year of AUD 0.25 per security. Our net tangible assets 31 December 2024 is AUD 4.62 per security, which is consistent with NTA reported in June, with minor impacts from valuation and swap movements. The portfolio delivered 3.5% like-for-like net property income growth, benefiting from the 54% of income of the REIT being CPI-linked. During the past six months, we completed our asset sales program with the settlement of the remaining AUD 300 million of the previously announced contracted divestments.

The portfolio is sitting at a very high occupancy level of 99.8%, and CLW has a long WALE of 9.7 years, providing security and continuity of income to our investors. We completed the AUD 50 million buyback of CLW securities that was announced at the FY 2024 full-year results last August. We remained focused on prudent capital management with balance sheet gearing after the completion of the divestment program at 31.8%, within the target range of 25%-35%. In December 2024, Moody's reaffirmed CLW's Baa1 investment-grade credit rating. Turning now to slide six. This slide provides a review of CLW's portfolio sector cap rates over the past four and a half years. On a like-for-like basis, across CLW's diversified real estate portfolio, portfolio value is on average 17% higher in December 2024 compared to June 2020, driven by contracted and market rental growth underpinned by CLW's best-in-class diversified tenant base.

Notwithstanding recent cap rate movement over the past two years, when viewed over a longer time horizon, CLW's portfolio cap rate is similar to what it was four and a half years ago. For all the concerns around recent cap rate movements, on a like-for-like basis, CLW's portfolio is higher than it was four and a half years ago. I would now like to hand over to Scott, who will provide an overview of the financial performance of the REIT.

Scott Martin
Head of Finance, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Thank you, Avi, and good morning to everyone on the call. Turning to slide eight, which provides a summary of the REIT's earnings for the first half of FY 2025. The REIT achieved like-for-like net property income growth of 3.5%, or AUD 5 million, compared to the prior corresponding period, which has been offset by the impact of divestment activity, which occurred throughout both the current and prior reporting periods. The 17.5% reduction in operating expenses and 15.6% reduction in finance costs has been a direct result of this divestment activity. The savings in finance costs have been partially offset by a minor increase in the REIT's weighted average cost of debt from 4% in first half of FY 2024 to 4.1% in first half of FY 2025.

Both operating earnings per security and distributions per security for the current reporting period were AUD 0.125 per security, in line with our guidance released to the market. Turning to slide nine and the REIT's balance sheet position. During the current reporting period, the REIT completed AUD 289 million of net property divestments. The net proceeds have been utilized to complete the AUD 50 million on-market security buyback, which we announced in August 2024 and completed in December 2024, with a balance of proceeds utilized to repay balance sheet debt. The REIT's NTA per security of AUD 4.62, as at 31 December 2024, has remained relatively stable. The four-cent movement in NTA per security since 30 June 2024 has primarily been driven by two items.

Firstly, a AUD 0.02 reduction in NTA per security as a result of the revaluation of the Telstra head office in Canberra due to an impending lease expiry at the property. And secondly, a further AUD 0.02 reduction in NTA per security as a result of the mark-to-market of interest rate swaps. Turning to slide 10, which provides a summary of the REIT's capital management initiatives. The successful completion of the asset divestment and deleveraging program over the last 18 months has strengthened the balance sheet, with all gearing metrics materially reduced. Balance sheet gearing sits at 31.8%, and look-through gearing sits at 39% as at the reporting date, with material headroom to debt gearing covenants. During the current reporting period, the REIT successfully refinanced AUD 310 million of balance sheet debt, extending the term by 2.8 years from FY 2027 to FY 2030.

The REIT has total facilities calculated on a look-through basis of AUD 2.5 billion, with a weighted average debt maturity of four years, with staggered maturities over a six-year period from FY 2027 to FY 2032. Moody's has reaffirmed its Baa1 investment-grade credit rating for the REIT, and the REIT has AUD 266 million of cash and undrawn balance sheet debt capacity. As at 31 December 2024, the REIT's weighted average cost of debt was 4.1%, based upon look-through drawn debt of AUD 2.2 billion and look-through hedging of AUD 1.4 billion at an average rate of 1.5%. The REIT has 64% of its look-through debt hedged, with a weighted average hedge maturity of 1.6 years. I will now hand back to Avi to provide an operational update and portfolio overview.

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Thank you, Scott. In the following slides, I would like to provide an operational update overview of our portfolio and outline some key attributes of the portfolio. Turning now to slide 12. During the half-year, we settled the sale of the Ingham's portfolio and the Australian Red Cross property, which completed CLW's divestment program. The divestment program and resultant debt reduction has strengthened the REIT's balance sheet and delivered capacity for capital management initiatives, including the recently completed buyback. The divestment program has also resulted in increasing the overall portfolio quality of CLW, with a number of the properties divested considered to be higher risk and lower quality properties. We have also been active in curating our existing long WALE partnerships, completing three recent transactions.

In our BP Australia portfolio, we've sold a service center in WA, and in our ALE portfolio, we completed two strategic acquisitions, being the accommodation adjoining the portfolio's existing Narrabeen Sands Hotel and the BWS bottle shop in Crows Nest, adjacent to the portfolio's existing Crows Nest Hotel. Both properties were acquired on a sale and lease back with Endeavour Group, with an average WALE of nine and a half years. Turning to slide 13, we are pleased to announce that we have agreed a lease extension and warehouse expansion with Coles at its Western Australian Distribution Centre in Perth. As part of the deal, we will construct an additional warehouse of 11,040 square meters, with the cost of the expansion being rentalized for the remaining lease term. In addition, Coles has agreed to reset the lease term over the whole property to 12 years from completion of the expansion works.

This deal demonstrates Charter Hall's deep tenant-customer relationships and how these benefit CLW investors. Across the Charter Hall platform, we own many properties with long leases to Coles across industrial, retail, and office. This strong relationship has contributed to our ability to negotiate this facility expansion and lease extension with Coles, which has resulted in a mutually beneficial outcome for both CLW investors and Coles. Slide 14 is our portfolio overview. As at 31 December, the REIT consisted of a portfolio of 513 properties valued at approximately AUD 5.5 billion. Property valuations were predominantly flat overall, with the movement in the portfolio valuation between June and December driven by divestments. The portfolio average cap rate is 5.4%. This compares to a cap rate of 4.4% in June 2022, a change of 100 basis points over the past two and a half years.

The average portfolio cap rate was flat over the six-month period. The portfolio is virtually fully occupied, with an occupancy of 99.8%, with a long-dated WALE of 9.7 years at 31 December. The properties in the portfolio feature a blend of annual lease review structures, both fixed and CPI-linked. Of the 54% CPI-linked reviews, 9% are CPI plus 1% or plus half a percent, while 11% relate to the ALE portfolio, where we have annual CPI reviews plus a significant market reversion event occurring in 2028. The mix of annual rent reviews results in a weighted average rent review for FY 2025 of 3.1%. Turning now to slide 15 and an outline of our tenant customers and the tenant diversification of the REIT. Our portfolio of long WALE properties are leased to high-quality tenants, including Endeavour Group, Governments, Telstra, BP, Metcash, and Coles.

The REIT's largest tenant exposures are to government tenants and best-in-class pub and bottle shop operator, the AUD 7.5 billion Endeavour Group. In the Data Centre and Telecommunication sector, we have a partnership with another best-in-class operator, the AUD 46 billion Telstra Corporation, which includes our portfolio of 37 exchange properties on long triple-net leases. Our BP Australia and New Zealand portfolio of 289 properties on long triple-net leases provide us with exposure to the resilient fuel and convenience retail sector. We also have a high proportion of tenants operating in the non-discretionary Grocery and Food sectors, such as Woolworths, Coles, Metcash, and Arnott's. Turning to slide 16 and the industry diversification of our tenant customers. Within our overall portfolio, approximately 99% of tenants are ASX-listed government, multinational, or national corporations, with the vast majority of these tenants operating in non-discretionary defensive industries.

The REIT's major sector exposures are to Convenience Retail, Government, Data Centres and Telecommunications, Grocery, and Food Manufacturing. Turning to slide 17, as can be seen from the chart on this slide, the REIT's portfolio has a long-dated lease expiry profile, which reflects a low-risk position relative to our peers in the sector. Our portfolio WALE is a long-dated 9.7 years. We have minimal lease expiries in the near term, and we are in discussions with a number of tenants with expiries in FY 2026 and beyond regarding lease renewals and extensions. We continue to work to push out our expiry profile as far as possible to the right of this chart, both through portfolio curation and negotiating lease extensions with our valued tenant customers. Turning now to slide 18 and environmental, social, and corporate governance.

We remain focused on implementing sustainability initiatives across our portfolio and consider ESG as a driver of long-term value for investors and tenant customers. As a business, we've taken accelerated climate action. CLW has maintained Net Zero Scope 1 and Scope 2 emissions for assets that fall under the operational control of Charter Hall. Additionally, CLW has been focused on clean energy generation, with 8.3 MW of solar installed across its portfolio, an increase of 28% over the past six months. CLW's predominantly modern office portfolio features high environmental credentials, including 5.4 Star NABERS Energy and 4.8 Star NABERS Water ratings. CLW remains committed to aligning with best practice frameworks to support transparency and disclosure. The fund achieved a score of 78 in the 2024 GRESB assessment, which ranks CLW first among its peers, demonstrating our commitment to transparency and continual improvement in ESG performance of the fund.

These preceding slides demonstrate the resilience and strength of our portfolio. Our portfolio WALE, quality of tenants, and proportion of triple-net leases provides better downside protection and more resilient income streams for our investors. Turning now to slide 20, I would now like to provide an update on earnings and distribution guidance for FY 2025. Based on information currently available and barring any unforeseen events, CLW reaffirms its FY 2025 operating earnings per security guidance of AUD 0.25 and distribution per security guidance of AUD 0.25. Based on yesterday's closing price, this represents a distribution yield of 6.4%. Finally, I would also like to acknowledge and thank the teams of people across the Charter Hall platform that contribute to the performance of CLW and the results delivered today.

The Charter Hall Group provides the REIT with access to a high-caliber team of experts across all areas of the REIT's management and provides CLW with access to a best-in-class management platform. That concludes the presentation, and I would like to now invite questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone, then wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Cody Shield with UBS. Your line is open.

Cody Shield
Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Good morning, Avi and Scott. Just looking at the buyback, you've completed that first half, not factored into guidance, and your 2025 is unchanged. Is there a moving part here that's a little bit weaker?

Scott Martin
Head of Finance, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

No, look, the guidance includes the impact of that buyback. It was done at around a 6.4% yield, debt funded. It has an immaterial impact, so it doesn't change that overall AUD 0.25 guidance. Hopefully, we see when we move to FY 2026. We're not providing guidance on that today, but you'll see the full impact of it in FY 2026.

Cody Shield
Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Okay, I was just looking at the 24 full-year result transcript, and it says that the buyback's in there. Sorry, just a little confused. Just moving on to covenants, the slide on debt covenants is not in the portal anymore. I mean, has there been a change to these? And if not, where are you sitting against those covenants?

Scott Martin
Head of Finance, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Look, no, they haven't. Thanks for the question. Look, we disclosed balance sheet and look-through gearing metrics, which continue to be our main gearing metric that we monitor to manage the REIT on a daily basis. These metrics have materially reduced, obviously, over the last 18 months since we've done the sales program. Avi's outlined today that valuations have remained relatively stable, so there's really no material change to covenant metrics since those last reported at June, so looking to sort of streamline our disclosures, that's really the rationale behind it.

Cody Shield
Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Can I ask where the look-through ICR's sitting?

Scott Martin
Head of Finance, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

It's still at circa three times.

Cody Shield
Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Okay, thanks. That's all from me. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Simon Chan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Simon Chan
Equity Research of Property and Real Estate Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi, good morning, guys. Hey, just on the buyback, did you guys give any thought to extending it? Because you've cleaned up the AUD 50 million already. And Scott, by your own admission, did you see 6.4%, which is pretty good, right, the yield? And you're still trading at a 15% discount to NTA. Just, yeah, did you guys give any thought of upsizing it, extending it?

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Morning, Simon. Avi here. Look, we announced at results in August that we were going to do the AUD 50 million buyback. We said that at the time we'd sold more properties in our divestment program than we expected, and with that excess proceeds, some of those proceeds that were in addition to what we expected, we would use to undertake the buyback. So we did that, and that's had a positive impact. But there's no intention at this stage to do anything further. Reminding you that we do that, it has an impact on gearing, as you would have seen between June and December, so we're mindful of that impact as well.

Simon Chan
Equity Research of Property and Real Estate Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, cool. Hey, can you give us a bit of an indication as to the yield and the cost required for the Perth Airport shed expansion, the 11,000 square meters there?

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Yeah, so look, that's a really good deal for both us and Coles. It sort of signifies that they have a long-term intention at the property and that it's their main WA distribution center. They will be extending their lease for 12 years from completion of these works, which also future-proofs the asset. The cost of that expansion for our 49.9% is just under AUD 30 million. We're not disclosing the yield on cost of that. That's commercial and confidence between us and Coles, but I can tell you that it's well above our cost of debt, so it's a positive impact for CLW.

Simon Chan
Equity Research of Property and Real Estate Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, terrific. Thanks, guys. That's all I've got this morning.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Suraj Nebhani with Citi. Your line is open.

Suraj Nebhani
Property and Infrastructure Research Analyst, Citi

Oh, thank you. A couple of quick ones, please. Maybe one for Scott. What are the debt costs assumed in guidance for this year, Scott, please?

Scott Martin
Head of Finance, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Yeah, thanks, Suraj. We've rolled three quarters of our floating rate debt exposure at around that 4.4%. We've got one quarter to go, which rolls in March of this year. That'll be a function of where rates get to at that point. And then you've got that average hedge rate of 1.5% on the fixed debt. That's the debt assumption. So we're not forecasting a material reduction in that Q4 debt roll, but we'll see where we get to in a month's time.

Suraj Nebhani
Property and Infrastructure Research Analyst, Citi

Okay, thank you. That makes sense. And I guess the other thing was on the ALE portfolio under renting, where does it stand currently? And is there any expectation for you guys to change the timing on that or move it forward or something like that?

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

I'll answer that one, Suraj. It's Avi here. Look, with the under renting of that ALE portfolio, at the time that we did the ALE transaction in late 2021, we had disclosed that the valuations that the ALE trust had done at that time indicated that rents were about 37% below market levels, and we haven't updated the market on anything since that disclosure. I'd say that they're at least that today. Those properties are performing really well, and you'd say market rents would have grown over that time. Look, that lease expiry or that market rent review, it's coming up, coming very much closer now. It's in 2028, so there's no further update in relation to discussions with Endeavour, but if those get brought forward, fine. Otherwise, we'll realize it in 2028.

Suraj Nebhani
Property and Infrastructure Research Analyst, Citi

Thank you. Thank you. That's all I had.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Brayshaw with Barrenjoey. Your line is open.

Ben Brayshaw
Founding Principal and Head of REITs, Barrenjoey

Yeah, hi. Good morning, Avi. Just wanted to clarify just on the extension of the Coles facility in WA. Has that been reflected in the 31 December carrying value for the asset?

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

No, that will get reflected on completion. As we spend the money, it'll add to the cost base of that asset. It'll get reflected, and then we'll get it valued on completion of the works as well.

Ben Brayshaw
Founding Principal and Head of REITs, Barrenjoey

Yep. Okay, great, and just your, I guess, reference to data centers, I think that's potentially the first time that you've included that in your presentation material. Are we to interpret that you will be looking to put capital into potentially data centers going forward as opposed to the telco exchange assets that you currently own?

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

So, Ben, we're always up. We're a long WALE REIT. We'll certainly look at data center assets if those get put to us. I guess the reference to that is really a reflection of the fact that those exchange properties that we do own do have a lot of exchange equipment in them and also some sort of data type equipment for Telstra. It also reflects the fact that Telstra had announced a few years back that they're looking at how they can utilize their exchange properties for their edge computing rollout, which we understand is still being pursued by Telstra. And we understand that a number of our exchange properties would be utilized for that purpose as that rollout happens. So that's why that comment's now been adopted in our disclosures.

Ben Brayshaw
Founding Principal and Head of REITs, Barrenjoey

Okay, thanks. So just one other question. Just on the balance sheet, you've mentioned in the presentation that your divestment program has now completed. Do you have a target loan-to-value ratio that you're comfortable to maintain going forward on a look-through basis? Just any feedback or color you could, I guess, provide on the look-through loan-to-value ratio?

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Yeah, no, as you know, since IPO, we haven't given a firm number that we're going to be targeting for look-through. It's going to be something that we manage over time, depending on market conditions and the opportunities that present themselves to us, but I am encouraged by the fact that valuations are relatively flat between June and December, and we see this being a trough period at the moment, and we've already seen in some of our asset classes, like our convenience retail, in fact, cap rates flatten rental growth, resulting in valuation increases, so I can see that playing out more broadly across the portfolio in future periods, and that'll create more capacity for us as well.

Ben Brayshaw
Founding Principal and Head of REITs, Barrenjoey

Great. Thanks for your time, Avi.

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Pleasure. Thanks, Ben.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, that's star one one to ask the question. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Richard Jones with JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Richard Jones
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Oh, thanks. Just a couple more clarifiers. Just on the Coles piece to see, can you outline what the new rent will be on the 80,000 square meters existing facility relative to the old rent?

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

The existing facility rent doesn't change. It just keeps growing in line with the reviews under the lease of 3.5%. The new rent will be determined based on the final cost of the facility. So it's a yield-on-cost equation.

Richard Jones
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Okay. And just a comment around the yield-on-cost being greater than your cost of debt, I assume that's a 4.1 reference. Does the yield-on-cost also exceed your marginal cost of debt, which I imagine is between the mid-fives?

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Yes.

Richard Jones
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Okay, good. And just any broad comments, Avi, on institutional demand for Long WALE assets and how that may be shifting?

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Yeah, well, I think it's certainly shifting. I think that two things, two major things are happening at the moment, which are sort of related. First one being, there's an expectation now that rates are going to come down in the near term, whether it's February or May or July, but it's coming. I think there's a broad acceptance of that, and I think that's giving people a lot more confidence that we're sort of, we're probably at the top of the rising cycle and rates will come down so that you can better price long WALE assets and have confidence where your cost of debt is, well, what the highest amount is going to be for the cost of debt, and it's going to be improving from here.

We've seen cap rates stabilize now as well, as you've seen in our results for Long WALE assets, which is encouraging and, again, gives people the confidence to look at Long WALE assets. I think also with the short WALE assets, in particular, in sectors like industrial, you've seen a real ramp-up of the pricing based on some very high market rental growth expectations. I think the relative value in Long WALE is playing out now as well, where people are looking at the certainty and quality of some Long WALE assets and looking at the yields that those are reflecting. I think they're relatively good value.

Richard Jones
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Good one. Thanks, Avi. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from David Pobucky with Macquarie Group. Your line is open.

David Pobukcy
Equity Research Analyst, Macquarie Group

Good morning, Avi and Scott. Thanks for taking my questions. Just the first one around guidance, operating expenses and finance costs did a bit better than we thought, obviously due to that divestment activity like you noted. So you'd expect that benefit to flow through to the second half. Was that quantum of costs and finance costs expected when you set for your guidance? Just noting the guidance was reaffirmed. Thank you.

Scott Martin
Head of Finance, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Yeah, look, it's all fallen into place as we had expected, and we haven't seen a material additional saving in finance costs or operating expenses. It's all per our original sort of four-year forecast.

David Pobukcy
Equity Research Analyst, Macquarie Group

Thank you. Just a second question, more around the strategy, so the asset sale program is complete. The buyback is complete. The stock's still trading at a meaningful discount to NTA, so if you could just talk a bit more about the strategy going forward to help close that gap. It doesn't sound like a further buyback is on the cards right now.

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Yeah. Well, I think that the whole sector will benefit from rates coming down. So I think that's going to be a driver for us and for others in terms of pricing re-rate. I think there's now more confidence around valuations as well, as I mentioned earlier, with our valuations relatively flat over the six months. So I think that'll also give the market a lot more confidence that NTA valuations are troughed, and that's reflected in the NTA and therefore the value of where we should be trading. And we're going to be working on initiatives to grow our earnings over the coming period. So we're going to be looking at opportunities to, whether it's acquisitions or recycling, how we can grow earnings within the existing portfolio. And also, as rates come down, benefiting from that as well and flowing through.

So there's a few initiatives there that we need to work on in the coming periods and get the drive earnings and create value for investors that'll get reflected in the share price.

David Pobukcy
Equity Research Analyst, Macquarie Group

Thank you, Avi, and just the last one from me. If you could talk a bit more about how the pub assets are trading at the moment, please.

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Look, we don't get trading data directly on those. But I can tell you that based on the Endeavour results that I do follow, hotels are trading very well. We've got across our two portfolios in CLW, we've got about just 146 hotels. Their whole portfolio of Endeavour is about 350. So we've got about 40% of their portfolio across our funds. And according to their results, hotels are the best-performing part of their business and have had sales growth with all aspects of the hotels: liquor sales, food, gaming, all performing well according to their disclosures. And as I mentioned earlier, also, they've been undertaking a refurbishment program as well across a number of large, well, they've got a program across their portfolio, which includes a number of our properties. So that's also really good for us. So yeah, I think they're performing very well.

As I mentioned earlier, I think we're looking forward to realizing that in our market rent review in 2028.

David Pobukcy
Equity Research Analyst, Macquarie Group

Okay, great. Thanks, Avi. Thanks, Scott.

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Pleasure. Thanks.

Scott Martin
Head of Finance, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Avi for closing remarks.

Avi Anger
CEO of Diversified, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT

Thanks, everyone, for joining the call today. I appreciate your interest in CLW. I look forward to catching up with many of you over the coming days and weeks for meetings, and if anyone has any questions as well, please feel free to come through to our Investor Relations, and myself, I'm happy to take any questions post the call. Thank you very much.

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