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Earnings Call: H1 2026

Feb 16, 2026

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness REIT FY 26 half year... If you wish to ask a question, you will need to press the star key, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad.

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

Soberg, and in the room is Financial Controller, Karina Luck. Before we commence today's presentation, we want to acknowledge the... Turning to slide five. We first need to acknowledge HMC as the largest shareholder in HCW, remains completely aligned with yours and our long-term objectives. As many of you know, HealthCo has approximately AUD 1.4 billion of assets, which includes AUD 562 million- a 60/40 split. On that basis, in our view, the current unit price clearly does not reflect fair market value. 100% rent collection, 99% occupancy, and 4.2% NOI growth. Financially, our- had AUD 155 million of cash and undrawn debt as of December, while gearing of 28.5% is well below- including all 11 Healthscope facilities.

In summary, HealthCo is well-placed as we continue to ensure long-term value preservation and maximize opportunities for future growth. Now moving. These hospitals are critical healthcare services to the communities they serve and cater for over 300. We get asked this question a fair bit. For clarity, this is 100% of the contracted rent, with all. Of these 11 hospitals, was independently valued at AUD 1.4 billion as at December 2025, and the valuation represents a 100- and ultimately reflects the critical infrastructure nature of these assets. Our conviction in our portfolio and strategy remain- AUD 100 million of proceeds for the lenders that now have tipped Healthscope into receivership. We understand this as well for quite some time. We are working to provide continuity of service across all the 11 hospitals, ensure that the HCW unit holders and UHF investors.

Our negotiations and discussions with our alterations, and provide an update to our investors, who are eager to understand directionally where some of these discussions are heading. Future tenant operators for the facilities based on asset-based split. These agreements are consistent with and unchanged, while rental incentives will be provided to the tenants to ensure sustainable commercial arrangements are in asset valuations. The landlords remain in constructive discussions with Healthscope and the receivers. Last week, we received correspondence from the receiver requesting that any proposal or submission relating to Purpose Co, which we have noted has been widely speculated in the media. What is important is we have existing agreements and leases in place with Healthscope. Under the existing agreements with Healthscope. As we all know, this process has frankly dragged out longer than most people have wanted submit such proposal to us for consideration.

Under the terms of the lease, we will review. The Australian healthcare landscape for a very long time, and they have long-term conviction in investing in the Australian healthcare system, and with our previously stated objectives. In the absence of any proposal, we will continue to work with our alternative operators.

Christian Soberg
Senior Portfolio Manager, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

primary and specialty care, aged care, and government and life sciences. We continue to manage a high quality and highly resilient NOI growth was 4.2% for the half. Around 80% of income is CPI linked, giving us strong income protection. Our portfolio also includes cancer care centers, aged care facilities, health hubs, and a nursing college. Government and national tenants account for largest healthcare providers and Queensland Health. Turning now to slide 12. On the strong demand for healthcare services. Turning now to page 13 for an update on our ESG achievements, and we expect to share more detail once that project concludes. On the social front, we maintain strong governance around board composition, with some positive social outcomes across the communities we serve. Overall, we remain committed to delivering sustainability initiatives that drive strong conviction in the value of our development pipeline.

That said, we will only seek to unlock its AUD 500 million pipeline. FFO of AUD 0.022 per unit was affected by the non-declaration of distributions from the unlisted healthcare fund. HCW and UHF will recommence distributions once the Healthscope situation has been resolved. NTA, with a movement from June, primarily driven by an expansion of the portfolio cap rate by 26 basis points. Some strategic flexibility. Following AUD 77 million of asset recycling in the half, HCW had 155 FY26 outlook on page 21. In FY26, our focus remain to manage our capital prudently and don't intend to declare distributions until the Healthscope situation has been resolved. Now for Q&A.

Operator

Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone and wait for your name. Your first question today comes from David Pobucky with Macquarie Group. Please go ahead.

David Pobucky
Associate Director and Equity Research, Macquarie Group

Good morning. Can you talk to the wording you use around near-term reduction as well? What would be the duration of the potential incentives, if you can talk to that, please?

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

Track records and strong balance sheets. The terms include long-term leases, while face rents will remain unchanged. The incentives of those incentives over the lease term, and we have stress-tested the impact of these deals on the covenants. I think the operators provide portfolio diversification, and we believe that the deals will strengthen the long-term quality of HCW's earnings.

Theoretically moving in, you may make some assumptions around what impact that could have on capitalization rates, but we just wanted to provide a-

Stress-testing the impact on covenants. The ICR was 2 times at the first half versus at 1.75.

Okay, so they won't impact on ICR, so.

David Pobucky
Associate Director and Equity Research, Macquarie Group

Thank you. Just the last one from me, range of potential paths, and- That comes from here, and timing, I know you mentioned this has, you know, taken longer than expected.

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

While, you know, making sure that the healthcare system remains available to serve the communities. So they're in a really different assignment application. Contractually, we're obliged to review it, and we will review it, having regard to our existing rights under our leases. David, we've, despite all of our discussions with receivers and their advisors, all we know about Purpose Co. is what you-

David Pobucky
Associate Director and Equity Research, Macquarie Group

Yeah. Thank you, Sid. Thanks, Christian. Thanks for answering my questions.

Operator

The next question comes from Andrew Dodds with-

Andrew Dodds
Corporate Finance & IR Manager, HMC Capital

You know, it'll be two years next month since this news first broke around Healthscope potentially going into administration. I'd just be-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

Agree that it's been going on for a while. Just to clarify, though, the receivership is at TopCo level for Healthscope, and a reminder, Fund has also paused distributions, and are working shoulder to shoulder with HCW. Clearly,

Andrew Dodds
Corporate Finance & IR Manager, HMC Capital

All right, that's clear. And then just on the AUD 77 million of asset sales in the first half, are there any more to go or tenant negotiations and the percentage and the, you know, potential for incentives?

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

No, we're comfortable. We, we can do-

Speaker 8

Chris, just want to pick up on a comment in the presentation pack around that you have liquidity to fund a-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

It's predominantly rent freeze, and it's kind of to provide a glide path for incoming operators. But there is some small elements of-

Speaker 8

Cool. And last one, look, I saw Proxima had a bit of an occupancy dip in the half. Can you just comment-

Christian Soberg
Senior Portfolio Manager, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

We try to run Proxima as well. It's an attractive location next to Gold Coast University Hospital and next to Gold Coast Private Hospital, which has just been acquired by-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

We've been getting better rents than we anticipated at Proxima. So we're pretty relaxed about getting the last 10% or what- For AUD 365 million to The Mater, which are Queensland's largest not-for-profit hospital. The payer ratios from insurers to hospital operators has increased from 82%, as short as three years ago, to about eighty- Starting to recover post-COVID and get back into kind of run rate utilization that was pre-COVID, and more importantly, that delta-

Speaker 8

I just wanted to follow up on the incentives comment. Just to confirm, you're talking about the incentive-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

To Lauren, you can understand, right? We're. These are commercially sensitive discussions. We've been specific on our remarks that provide these operators long-term sustainable solutions, and the support we will provide will be over a medium-term period.

Operator

Bell Potter, please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Morning, Sid and Christian. Just one for me. Just interested in an update on trading at-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

You'll see their operating performance generally in the industry is certainly improving. I've just provided some color as to the health insurer. We don't have, at the moment, all of the data that Healthscope ought to be providing to us relating to operating performance.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Good morning. Just a couple of quick ones. Can you-

I'm just doing quick sums. It looks like the revenues are down about AUD 20 million. Just working out if there's any other-

Christian Soberg
Senior Portfolio Manager, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

The cap rate movement was similar in UHF, similar to the cap rate movement for the Healthscope assets at HCW balance sheet level. Over the equity account and investment, that's predominantly related to fair value movements associated with the assets and the unlisted fund.

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

Yeah, just to add to that .

Speaker 9

The underlying run rate of UHF, 'cause our assumption is it'd be making about AUD 40 million on a 100% basis, and reveals half and half, and then the AUD 15.8 million disclosed equity accounted loss. So I'm just trying to re-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

Why don't we, why don't we circle back to you on that?

Speaker 9

Okay, no worries. And the UHF distribution-

Operator

Schofield with Morgans, please go ahead.

Liam Schofield
Analyst, Morgans

Morning, guys. Just to touch on Richard's question a moment ago, just on that pay out that rent that you've received historically at some future point. And then also, just what sort of cash flow implications would be required-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

In the listed fund. So the priority remains to resolve the Healthscope agreements and transition. That's the focus. So the focus for this team is just to resolve this Healthscope situation first and foremost. I know distributions are an important through what is a frustrating situation for our investors. And just on any cash flow, hands on whether this Purpose Co that's been speculated in the papers is real or not.

Liam Schofield
Analyst, Morgans

Evaluation of an alternate arrangement. Can you just try and lay out a little bit about the drivers of that?

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

'Cause if it's an incentive of, is that reflects the accounting treatment of those incentives over the lease term. And what we also see is also mentioned, rates, all things being equal, should compress going forward, having regard to stronger tenant covenants associated with the new range directionally, as you're kind of modeling out where incentives are heading to, okay? So these are gonna be predominantly-

Liam Schofield
Analyst, Morgans

I just thought the-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

-new long-term-

Liam Schofield
Analyst, Morgans

incentive over a period of time, but it would suggest if the valuation impact is of that order, it's gotta be a bigger incentive.

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

Saying the same thing.

Liam Schofield
Analyst, Morgans

Yeah, okay, thanks. And then just... I know it's an odd kind of observation, but when you look at the-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

Fundamentals perspective, we are real estate owners, and we have collected every dollar of every contractual commitment provided by our operator. Always have.

Liam Schofield
Analyst, Morgans

Maybe just one last one then. Just around the alternate proposals, can you just confirm that under the-

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

sustainable rents for operators that have a long-term commitment to the healthcare sector, so you can assume that the rental rates are-

Operator

[inaudible] with Jefferies, please go ahead.

Andrew Dodds
Analyst, Jefferies

Oh, hey, guys. Sorry, just to follow up. There's just a payable of about AUD 40. If that's the case, when the cash starts to be paid?

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

Yeah, that's, that's correct, Andrew. These are fees due and we will have a further discussion and, and review that.

Andrew Dodds
Analyst, Jefferies

That's clear. Thanks.

Sid Sharma
CEO, HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness

Yeah, look, we're, like all of our investors, hoping that our, our receiver friends are going to submit something forward and bring this thing to a head.

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