Good evening, Chorus Call operator speaking. Welcome to the presentation of the fashion house, Casa di Moda Brunello Cucinelli, the idea of humanistic capitalism and human sustainability. All participants are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Speakers will be Brunello Cucinelli, Executive Chairman and Creative Director, Luca Lisandroni, CEO, Riccardo Stefanelli, COO, Moreno Ciarapica, CFO, and Pietro Arnaboldi, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Planning. And now I'd like to give the floor to Brunello Cucinelli. The floor is yours.
Thank you. Good evening, and really thank you from the bottom of my heart for joining in before, just before the holidays, but it is something I'm really pleased of doing. I'd like to thank investors, analysts, and everybody joining and attending.
At the end of the day, we have now reached the end of this year. Still, I have to say, with some concern about what I have always called this pandemic. You see, I have always described it as a serious worldwide plague since I love history, and you see, they were called a pestilence rather than pandemic. Pestilence is, you see, sometimes it can be more frightening than pandemic. We think that this could be over in about three to four months, at least I hope. By the way, our vaccination hub was set up a year ago, and will stay there until the end of the pandemic. Now the date that we have in mind is in the beginning of spring.
At the same time, for me and for our company, 2021 was a year to be counted among the beautiful years of our history. I have to say that I really strongly wished this call because usually we hold the traditional year-end board meeting, but I wanted this call to be dedicated to something special. A call with the financial community dedicated to summarizing the major elements that have affected our company and the family foundation during this period in a fascinating way, I have to say.
The aim of this call is also to say thank you to many, many people, because in these two years of pandemic, I have to say that we have had many moments where we have reached out for one another and helped each other mutually. What about this call? How do we want to structure it? A short update of the year-end earnings and figures, but you know almost everything. As you know, as a company, we would always like to achieve what we have envisaged and therefore would like to implement your expectations. I'd like to talk about the inauguration that took place the other day of the so-called Casa Cucinelli in five worldwide capital cities.
I'd like to once again say something about the winning of the Designer of the Year 2021 GQ prize, because I think it has majorly affected in positive our image in the world and sometimes also slightly the sales of the last three to four months. Since then, we have decided that our company will be called Casa di Moda Fashion House, which sounds a bit more fascinating, and it really represents us more. We have always been fascinated by the maison like Hermès and Chanel, so that's why I want to call it Casa Maison. I'd like to maybe dwell on the great project of the Universal Library of Solomeo, some of you are already familiar with, in support of the surroundings and the culture.
As you know, this project is totally, entirely funded by the family foundation and not by the fashion house. This is a project that we call a project for the coming 1,000 years. A great topic we'd like to talk about is humanistic capitalism and human sustainability. I'd like to also say something about the G20 I attended in Rome last October. This is unquestionably now the most discussed social and human topic in any forum in the world, this issue, social self-sustainability. Thus we have set the targets, the emission targets for the coming decades. I'm very confident that humanity will have become aware of this issue, especially young people, but even more so the very young, for the future to come.
My comment, my quote is, "A beautiful 2021, which we define as the year of rebalancing, with a growth in turnover of almost 30% that has enabled us to fully recover the 10% loss suffered in 2020, so as to resume our sound, balanced, and serene path towards the objectives of the 2019-2028 plan in its targets." After my exciting participation as a speaker at the G20 in Rome last October, where a highly respected Chairman Draghi had asked me to give my testimony on our concept of life and work, and on everything we call humanistic capitalism and human sustainability.
Following my attendance of the G20, I want to share these great human reflections with the entire board of directors as well as with the financial community through a dedicated pre-Christmas call, and also to definitely set the targets for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions by 2028, the year that marks the end of the ten-year plan, as I said before. Now some slight earnings update as we approach the end of the year. Turnover up close to 30% on 2020 and close to 16% on 2019. Following a year when we had lost 10%, this means that we have recovered the loss fully. EBITDA around 14%. Inventory is back to normal with an incidence on turnover of around 29%.
I also wanted to point out that we do not have any issues as far as raw material supply is concerned, as we said back in October. Net financial position very, very interesting. It will be around EUR 35 million. We wouldn't have expected this achievement six or seven months ago. On this subject, my heartfelt thanks to all the banks, because you see they have made available to us quickly in March 2020. You see now everything is faring a bit better, but actually, in less than two weeks, they gave us a huge amount of credit facilities that allowed us to work with confidence. Fortunately, only part of it was used. I want to say thank you very much to our banks. Also because they were very brave in financing our companies.
As you know, I have always believed in the validity of banks. Of course, we have started off without even a dollar in our pocket, so definitely our banks helped us grow. As to dividends, we will return to our normal dividends of around 50% of profit. To conclude about the full year, it is a year of rebalancing, except for a few points lost on the EBITDA. As you know, we have not changed anything, the corporate structure, and we have not laid off anybody. We haven't asked for any discounts. You know that. Therefore, we imagine with confidence and serenity. You see, working with confidence and serenity is always a good way of working. We envisage a healthy and balanced growth around 10% in both 2022 and 2023, with a rebalancing of EBITDA.
All the above will allow us to end the first half of the ten-year plan, 2019-2028, as projected in 2023, perhaps slightly above. The 10th five-year plan of our company, 2019-2023, will end up slightly above expectations. At least we hope. There will be the 11th five-year plan from 2024-2028. We also have the 2019-2028 ten-year plan. We are about to say now that in the medium to long term, we are looking for beautiful, healthy, balanced, and humanly sustainable growth. This is something we really want to convey. Now about the Casa Cucinelli. What is this? In five cities, Solomeo, Milan, London, Paris, and New York, we have fitted out these spaces as Casa Cucinelli. In Solomeo, we welcome our visitors.
In New York, we have it on Fifth Avenue, about 700 sq m, a nice one in Milan. In Paris, it used to be the apartment of Joséphine Bonaparte. What is Casa Cucinelli? It is a place where we basically welcome people for dinner, discussing small conferences. It is a meeting venue to convey our culture, corporate culture. It is a place where you can breathe in the taste of the brand, the lifestyle. There's a small library, there's a classic Italian kitchen, and you can taste the Italian cuisine. I've always believed that the Italian cuisine is made up of only for each dish only three ingredients, so maybe pasta, tomato, and basil. Everything very typical Italian.
This is in a meeting venue for analysts, investors, journalists, and friends. It's really very welcoming. These houses, these homes, Casa Cucinelli, in the future, we'll try and set up one in Shanghai and Tokyo, but we think it is very nice for the important appointments and also for the smaller ones. Maybe one minute on the London Prize. As we said back in last time in September, we were awarded the GQ Designer of the Year 2021 prize. It was a great recognition to the identity and our taste. Why am I saying this? Because, you see, collections may have their ups and downs, but as it was the case for Ralph Lauren and Armani, the great fashion brands, the taste remains. Today, we seem to be identified as the brand of a beautiful dressing worldwide.
We are some sort of benchmark. Of course, in the last four months, the image that we enjoy around the world has been enhanced, and there is no doubt that it has also influenced sales in the last part of the year. In terms of number of SKUs, well, men's and women's is 50/50. Of course, women's, the price is slightly higher. In economic terms is 58% and 41%, but in terms of pieces of SKUs is the same, men's and women's. Three minutes about the Universal Library, which we presented at the end of October in Milan. Everything funded by the foundation, so these do not end up in the costs items of the listed company. This project is aimed at highlighting even more the value of Solomeo.
We have the theater, the winery, the monument, the library. Solomeo is now being increasingly identified as the location of cashmere, and hopefully, this can still be there in a few centuries. A place where we can live in harmony and moderation, because I think that the great theme of moderation is very contemporary. With some of you, we mentioned the fact that we would like this to be some sort of Maranello Ferrari. I really hold the Ferrari team very high in a very high regard. Some people say, so you see, so Maranello is identified with Ferrari, and we'd like Solomeo to be identified with cashmere and also with a different way of working.
We like the fact that people come to visit Solomeo, but sometimes, you see, it's a bit too many people, so we are forced to take pictures with all of them. Nevertheless, we really like welcoming visitors in Solomeo. This library, you see, I've always been fascinated by books. You know, Hadrian the Emperor at one point said, "Books showed me the way in life, and when I as a grown-up, life made me understand the meaning of books." For the lovers of Italian culture, Petrarch once said, "I question my books, and they answer to me. They sing to me. Sometimes they smile, and they comfort me. Some other times, they show me my human self in a different way." Ptolemy I came up with this great idea.
He was a good friend of Alexander the Great. His idea was to protect all books in Alexandria, starting from Aristotle volumes. We were very fond of this idea. We still are, and we think that it can attach even greater value to Solomeo. It is a great investment for the foundation, and I hope that Riccardo, Luca, and your children and grandchildren can really pursue this project because there is also a cultural sustainability to be taken into account. The library project has started. Many people are writing to us about this, and I call them the defenders of the library. Many people are book lovers. Now, about the G20 in Rome. How did it go?
Draghi's secretary called me and said, "Would you like to come and talk about the corporate culture during the G20?" I jokingly said, "Of course, I would even swim to that venue." A month elapsed, and I was very tense because on the one hand, Prince Charles of England was invited to contribute to talk about the climate, the global warming. By the way, we are also part of one of his projects, and Riccardo follows this project. I was to contribute my thoughts on humanistic capitalism and human sustainability. I did not sleep that much during that month because, of course, I usually speak off the cuff.
I went to Rome two days in advance, and I didn't eat at all because I thought, just think if you have tummy ache when you have to address the G20. It doesn't happen every day. In the morning of the event, we were already there 8:30 A.M. instead of 10:00 A.M., and the security guy said, "Brunello, where are you going?" I said, "You see, what would have happened if my car had broken down?" One more thing I wanted to say, all these great men came. We were having breakfast together and there was Boris Johnson, Angela Merkel, so there was some pressure there. We sat there, and Prince Charles was reading his speech. I myself had not written anything.
I said to myself, "Saint Augustine, please lend me a hand," because once Saint Augustine said, "Do not worry. The important thing is that what you say comes from your soul. The words will follow." This is what happened. Of course, when you speak, when you improvise, the message is always stronger. It was a very special experience. In the end, Boris Johnson and President Draghi, they said it was a great speech. During my address, I paid my compliments to Mario Draghi because thanks to him, Italy is once again credible. We had meetings with investors in London, Milan and New York, and now we are a credible country, and it is something great. I really wanted to mention this again because it was very moving for me. I would have never imagined it.
When I said to my 100-year-old father what I was going to do, he was very moved, too. At the same time, two days ago, Ernst & Young called us, well, actually defined for us, set for us the target for emission. The reduction of greenhouse gas emissions will be by 60% by 2028. For Scope 1 and Scope 2 emissions, it will be 70% in absolute terms by 2028 still. We would like to say that by nature, our business is, has a very high rate of craftsmanship. 52% of products are really handmade with manual work. By nature, emissions are not very high in our case. It's not that we want to blame it on others.
We just want to say that the kind of products we deal with is different. You know, how we relate to the surroundings or the territory. Now I wanted to devote five minutes to what we call sustainability and humanistic capitalism. As we were talking at the board meeting today, I think that everything starts with moderation. We need to adopt moderation in everything we do. I don't know how that translates into English, but in Italian, moderazione, moderation, is a very noble term. As Augustus in 5-6 AD said something fascinating. You should live in an honest manner. You should not harm anyone, and everyone should have their own. 2,000 years ago. In about a month's time, we will put together a booklet.
We decided to break down sustainability into four kinds of aspects. Creation, economic, moral and cultural. On the sustainability related to creation, we have emissions and climate. There's the land, and as far as the land is concerned, you should know that our industrial buildings were existing ones. Our plants already exist in last century. We tore down some of them as a foundation, and parts of them were readapted to modern times. We have tried to reclaim the land and not to exploit it. Also the future project, we'll speak about this in around March, but the future expansion, extension of the facilities should happen very close to our village by reclaiming an important piece of land.
Actually, it used to be a factory in the past, but we'll tell you more next March. Creation, we have emissions, land and animals. There is an economic kind of sustainability. We talked about this morning, working conditions. See your laborers, can they see the light or the sunlight or not? What about their wages? Are they lower than the average? If there's a great difference between earning EUR 1,700 or EUR 1,300 a month, your life changes. There's sustainability on raw materials, too. We try and have a special relationship with raw material suppliers, and then our relationship with the textile workers, the true manufacturers of our products.
Creation, sustainability from a creation point of view and sustainability from economic point of view, and then sustainability from an ethical point of view. This is a part, it's in the minutes of our board meetings. We have dignity at work here. When you go to work, do you feel treated like a human being or slightly less than a human being? Are you a beautiful soul or not? Fair working hours. This is also an ethical issue, a fair amount of time spent online. Another topic you are familiar with, a fair profit and the balance between profit and giving back. This is a conviction, a belief that I have.
I believe that in the future, especially the young and the very young, will be very mindful, and they will shop a product, they will buy a product of a company that makes a fair profit. I think that we all fully know what a fair profit is. Another important topic is the respect for the law. We try to comply with the law. We strive to pay fair taxes in our country. We were talking about this today at the board meeting. In the end, our gross tax rate is 29%-30%, but net it has been 22%-23%. I think that paying a fair amount of taxes in the country of your country of residence, it is also part of an ethical sustainability.
Then there's the last type of sustainability, which is the cultural sustainability. Library, having a library, it means having a cultural sustainability. The theater, the arts, the value of training and teaching. There is some kind of cultural sustainability towards the surroundings and the community. To conclude, and then you can ask your questions. We wanted to organize a call devoted to sustainability and humanistic capitalism as a whole. It is in an end of the year call, an extraordinary one after such an important year and a half. We really wanted to give you a proper value. To conclude, I'd like to say that since, for, at least for me, these are the days of important human reflections and musings.
You see, when we were in the countryside, we would finish sowing our corn in the end of November, and December was a so-called still, quiet month. We would organize all our olive oil. We would go for the accounts to the landowner. My father and my uncle would go to the landowner in order to calculate what we were due and, sorry, what we were owed. They would come back home to the family, and they would not talk numbers. They would just say that, "Let us thank the God for how it has gone.
Hopefully, it will, we will perform better next year." I was always fascinated by this healthy balance during the Christmas holidays, that we would welcome back our relatives working abroad. It was a special time for the family. I would like these days to be intense and poignant days for our soul, because I think we need a healthy balance with ourselves. I'd like to thank you wholeheartedly. Let's open the discussion. We really wanted to organize this call at the end of the year. None of us would have envisaged that a year and a half after the outbreak of the pandemic, we would be in these conditions. I'm not just talking about Cucinelli. Whoever you speak to, everybody is planning ahead.
If we think about our beautiful Italy, we see we are a true manufacturing people. A few months ago, I spoke to my friends at Chanel, and they were saying, "Do you know that 70% of our production is in Italy? Just think of what kind of value your Italy has for us." We are honored for that. Thank you. Let us open up for discussion before wishing us all the best.
There will be some minutes of silence to enable the operator to collect the questions. First question, Andrea Randone, Intermonte.
Good evening, everyone. Good evening, Brunello, and thank you for the call. Congratulations for the important things that you communicated. My question is, could you make a geography-focused comment at the end of this year that beat expectations? Other countries are talking about the troubling United States. You have very high-end customers. So probably they're not really affected by the short term. It is more of a question of taste. I'd like to know how you also view this trend of alignment of world taste, young people in particular, whether it is something you are seeing and whether this can all go well for 2022.
As far as the geographies are concerned, we had a call in October, and what I'm saying is you just need to take those numbers and increase them slightly because the stores are all open. There were no delays. You can really take the end of October figures and improve them slightly. For taste, the question is very interesting because what we see is an interest from 20-40 years old, but it is a homogeneous kind of taste. As you know, our collection is the same everywhere in the world. Just a question of sizes, but the taste is the same. Especially in the case of young people, the idea is to buy items that do not go to waste, items that can be reused.
Well, of course, as far as ladies are concerned, fashion changes quickly. For menswear, you can mix, you see last season's blazer with a modern denim. The idea is to shop for fine products that you do want and durable products. This is something that I'm really pleased with. Nobody ever says that our prices are preposterous, and you know that we are pretty expensive. We hope that there is a high level of craftsmanship. It is up to you to express your view on the taste, but we want to keep being a lifestyle and clothing company. We have many young people who have approached the brands, young actors in China, and young. By young, I mean between 35 and 45. The idea is that of being dressed well. Thank you, Andrea. You asked about the future.
Well, as for the future, we are very confident, but always with moderation and self-restraint. Thank you.
Just a slight follow-up. A comment on online and stores. The online customers, are they the same as the customers that come to the stores?
Well, as far as our company is concerned, our direct online accounts for just over 6%. Together with the wholesale, we estimated around 12, 13, 14. But it is very important to showcase the product. Almost 50% of customers go to the physical store with the information collected online, but they want the physical tailors, obviously. You see, we do clothing, Andrea, you know. So it is important that you try it on, that you have it taken in if necessary.
I think that this is the value of the online, some sorts to showcase the product. We have rediscovered the great value of the physical stores. You want to go to a physical brick-and-mortar store because you want to talk to the shop manager or because they know you. This is very strongly felt, especially in the local customers.
Flavio Cereda from Jefferies.
Thank you and good evening, Brunello. Two things. We have humanistic capitalism, sustainability, then your work with the community. Always a strong asset for you. With this press release, you are giving us more detail with some metrics. Can we expect some updates in the future with the progress and the objectives, the targets and goals?
Maybe you were already doing this in the past, but now you are really speaking numbers. Also Casa Cucinelli. The brand is veering more and more towards its lifestyle version, and it is an important development. You mentioned two Casa Cucinelli and perhaps two additional ones. What role can this play, the fact that you can offer this specific kind of welcoming to some customers?
Let's start from the Casa with my answers. We spend half of the money on events. There are some very VIP people who want to come to you, they want to have a meal in the Italian way. They spend two, three hours, they never want to leave, and then they try on. It's very confidential. For us, it will be increasingly important.
That's where you can feel the taste, but not just in clothing, but also a place where you can find have a special meal. You can breathe some sort of Solomeo. The oils, olive oil is from Solomeo. The wine is from Solomeo. It is really something important. About the first question. Very interesting. Ernst & Young set these emission targets, and we told them, "Please keep us updated as to the quantity accordingly." You see, Flavio, we have been collecting rain waters forever, like we did when we were farmers. We always grow our crops the very same way. It is a question of culture. Our company, since we are artisans, we do not have a very high level of emissions, but it is a daily kind of work.
I really wanted to organize a specific call with you in order to raise our own awareness because it is increasingly strong. They want to know what your profit is like, how you behave. We wanted to always deal with this topic, also with some in a graceful manner. We need grace in our life. I'd like this to be talked about, like how we treat people and the way you treat your workers is really important and also the number of working hours. Do you think we can work this way for the next 20 years, working 15 hours a day? It's not possible. You need your rest.
I said in the company we work eight hours, and perhaps in two, three years we will reduce that, but always focused, because we need to go back home and live our daily life with our dear ones. These are important musings. Since the average age of people is low, you see. Now, when they come for a job interview, the first question is, "How many hours am I supposed to work?" and not how much money I will make. We want to work in an intense manner, but also not exaggerate, because these will be the needs, future needs of the human beings. At the end of the day, I would like to say, to have to talk about healthy moderation. I'd like to wish you all the best wishes for Christmas and the new year.
You see, thank you very much. I always want to thank you for all that you have written in the past 10 years. I'd like to thank investors who believe in us. I'd like to thank journalists and banks. I say it once again, Flavio, in 15 days, the banks gave us credit facilities for EUR 200 million. We thought we would need EUR 100 million. Just think of how they helped us work with confidence. We all feel stronger. As far as the pandemic goes, I am pretty confident because I think that in two or three months' time, they always talked about two years, so we should be close to the end. Best wishes.
I'd like to remind you that if you want to ask a question, you can press star followed by one on your keypad. Next question, Paola Carboni, EQUITA.
Good evening. It's a pleasure to speak to you just before Christmas.
Well, yes, you know, when I said to Pietro and Luca, "Why don't we organize a call?" They said, "But what will they think? That something happened?" No, nothing happens. We just organize a call to say hello, to thank you, all of you, and also to feel better, to give us our best wishes. Paola, your question.
I wanted to start from something that you said at the very beginning when you talked about fashion house or maison as the first time that we hear you use this definition. How am I to interpret this view? I think that there is a growing weight of lifestyle and on Instagram, on the website, I see that the non-clothing part is drawing more and more attention.
How can the product mix evolve, do you think? And the non-ready-to-wear categories, what do they account for?
Paola, I want to say the following. I have always been fascinated by the Maison Hermès, Maison Chanel. I said to this, "Why do we have to call it industry? We call it. We do true luxury, and we should call it a maison, a casa in Italian." But you see, we are ready to wear. We want to still be a ready-to-wear company, but probably 80%, we are in a company, 80% fashion and 20% lifestyle. It is all part of a taste, and that's why maybe we were awarded this special prize on identity.
I always think that the company will still be here in 100 years' time, maybe EUR 2 billion, EUR 3 billion, EUR 4 billion revenues growing slowly. With an extremely high rate of craftsmanship, top-notch quality. Of course, the taste is also important. The other day, we reviewed the 10-year plans of all the workshops working for us, and it's wonderful. Of course, you must have the courage to pay them in a considerate manner. What I say here is, why should we really chase a 0.8 EBITDA more when you deprive someone of this? The profits of these workshops are not so high if really.
Since it is a civil and morally human responsibility of major companies, the fact that we did not ask for discount, we went to ask for credit facilities to the bank to protect the value chain. I think that our value chain is somehow eternal or very long-lasting in the decades to come. Of course, we wanted to create a brand and a taste. In everything that we do, we try to depict taste. You go to Monte Carlo, and there's a table there where you can have your dining dinner party. These are also spaces that are somehow timeless. It is a maison, and we would like to call it casa in Italian.
It is a very positive experience we are enjoying with the Casa Cucinelli because we have loads of people wanting to visit in New York, in London, in Paris. In Paris, it's the former apartment of Pauline Bonaparte. There was a dinner with 200 customers who danced until 2:00 A.M. Small things that make the difference. I have always believed. When I designed the first tuxedo for Schultz in Starbucks, he asked me, "How do I look?" I said, "Great." Then 10 minutes later, had 10 tuxedo orders from his friends. It's I think that word of mouth is important at this level. That's why I say. It does make the difference, really. I don't know if I've answered your question.
The 27.8% fashion and the 20% lifestyle, is that your current breakdown?
Well, yes.
You see, we did this with the eyewear, and eyewear are doing very well, but taste is what matters. My daughter and her husband went to Los Angeles. They designed some styles together, high quality. Like CEO Del Vecchio said. Now, when I said to him, "What do you think of these glasses? Do they..." He said, "I don't know whether they are beautiful, but they are made the best way possible." We keep working this way. If we keep working with a sustainable plan, also growth-wise, healthy growth, healthy profit, I firmly believe in this because this idea of profit, it might be a fixation of mine, but you see, when I was young, the company had different EBITDA.
Some of you, one of you, and I don't mention any names, once said, "I don't buy anything from those who make too much of a profit," although he was an analyst. We have to be balanced, especially if you deal in luxury. I personally, I never buy products with a preposterous profit. When I was young, retail was 54.3, and now the ratio is 113 or 13 x the industrial cost. In that case, you wonder. In our case, I think that we are around 8.2 x the industrial cost. It's still part of human sustainability, so I'm not objecting to anything, but I'd like this company to keep growing with craftsmanship, fair profit, and the balance between profit and giving back.
The other day, the Chinese ambassador in Italy went to spend two hours with Luca in Milan, and they talked about Confucius. They talked about taste, craftsmanship, culture. All this makes a difference. I have been studying Chinese culture in depth with a friend of mine for a year and a half, and now we will put together a booklet that I'd like to hand out. You see, we are the West, and we come from the Greek culture, but if we combine it with the Eastern culture, we can achieve great results. Thank you very much. Just one last thing. Now you are more confident about the fourth quarter, but it's not that we were pessimists before. It's not that we are optimists now and we're pessimists. It was slightly better than we thought.
I think there are no clear geography drivers, right?
No. Every geography is faring well, America, China, Europe. The city customers are happy. They go to their local stores. I find it very interesting. Do you remember when you were saying that, "Well, how can we do without tourists?" I said, "No, we won't be lacking 30% of the business. I will shop in Perugia and London, in Rome instead of New York." As far as channels are concerned, no, everything is fine. All the figures you have for October 24, you just improve them slightly, and that's the end of the year for you. Of course, the day before Pitti on January 10, we will give you the accurate figures and broken down by geographies.
All geographies performed really well in this quarter, right, Luca, Riccardo? Talking about sustainability, in this call, we wanted to provide you with an update because we would like to always give you results without any positive or negative surprises. Thank you.
There are no more questions, Mr. Cucinelli.
We'd like to thank you very much. It was a good choice to exchange wishes before Christmas and to restate the fact that we expect a great future with the end of the pandemic, which will happen soon. Thank you very much. Rest, and live like we did when we were farmers. Let us seize this opportunity to take stock of your life. Thank you very much and best wishes. Goodbye.