Earnings Call: H1 2020

Sep 11, 2020

Afternoon. This is the Chorus Call conference operator. Welcome and thank you for joining the LN First Call twenty twenty Results Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Ms. Bianca Fercini of Polytechn HIR. Please go ahead, madam. Thank you so much. Good afternoon or good morning to everyone, and thank you for joining us. With me on the call are Andrea Candioli, Allent's Managing Director and Enrico Romagnoli, Allent's Chief Financial Officer and Investor Relator. Before we begin, please note that there is remarks management makes on the conference call about future expectations, plans and prospects and forward looking statements. Certain statements in this call, including those addressing to the company's beliefs, plans, objectives, estimates or expectations of a possible future result or events are forward looking statements. Forward looking statements involve known or unknown risks, including general economic and business conditions and the condition in the industry we operate and may be affected should our assumptions turn out to be inaccurate. Consequently, no forward looking statements can be guaranteed and actual future results, performance or achievements may vary materially from those expressed or implied by such forward looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation about the company nor to update the forward looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date we are hoped. But let me introduce to the call, Andrea Candrill. Go on, Andrea. Thank you. Thank you, Bianca. Good morning, everybody. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining this conference call after the release of our 6 months financial report. We are talking from our premises in Florence, where from the mid of August, all of our employees are working full time again. After about 4 months of extensive records to the payroll protection programs, the so called CASA integracione that we had to adopt due to the sudden demand fall caused by the COVID pandemic. Our premises and all the premises of the Helane Group as well are a safe working place since we adopted all the measures needed to protect health and safety of our employees. Some of them are still working remotely in order to reduce the physical contact, but we can say that the pandemic is not impacting our internal processes anymore. This is obviously good news, a sign of the ongoing recovery process from the darkest days of the lockdowns to the normal status we were experiencing in the 1st weeks of the year. The 6 months financial results that we will shortly see in detail with Enrico and that in the most synthetic summary showed a 13.8% decline in revenues and a sharper 44.4 percent decline in EBIT with EBIT margin down to 5 0.7%. These numbers, the number of these financials are in fact the results of a trend that due to the impact of the pandemic in the period has been very uneven in the various months of this 6 months period. All of our businesses jumped at the starting signal of the year running fast as never before. Then after a few days, the pandemic hit China and then Italy and then the rest of the world. We had to fully stop operation in China for almost 3 months in Italy for more than 1 month in the companies of the industrial sector. And though they were not forced by any official decree, but they were forced by the sudden demand fall also in the companies active in the medical market. As this very dark cloud abruptly shielded the very brilliant sunshine of the 1st month of the year, production and sales levels dropped, in certain cases down to 0. We had 0 production and turnover in February in China. We had no sales at all in April in the medical sector and in the professional beauty sector in Italy and France. In Italy, we were blocked in industrial laser system manufacturing, servicing and delivery for the most part of the month of March April. Then the clouds that were so thick and dark started thinning and we started progressively seeing some sunlight again. The length of the stall period and the intensity of the recovery both were very different depending upon their geographic area and the specific market. Just to mention a few meaningful examples, in the sheet metal laser cutting market, the rebound of demand was extremely buoyant, allowing Catlight Penta to register revenue growth on a 6 month basis and the Chinese business to work at full production rates in all the factories again to date. In Japan, where we hold a significant position with our subsidiary active in the professional aesthetic and spa market, the pandemic had a milder impact and we registered a significant growth over the 6 month period over 2019. Sales to the U. S. And in the medical aesthetic business after a 2 month slowdown were back to satisfying level in the month of July. Sales in the medical market in Italy through our Renaissance distribution network marked record level in July and in August. Sales through Estee Log network to professional beauty shops were also back to a good level after the April stopped. Given the overall circumstances, I'd say that the demand recovery was stronger than expectation. But as much as the original expectation for this 2020, we're extremely ambitious. The recovery expectation from the COVID 19 low were modest. So we are happy to see demanded orders flowing in again to see customers releasing the backlog orders they had asked to hold. In specific segments and in certain months, we were back to sales and production level of 2019 and higher, but on the average, we are still facing a market situation that is weaker than 12 months ago. Let me this time tell you that I'm very proud of the achievements we accomplished in this month. Although far from the growth expectation that the group had for 2020 at the end of last year, these results are, in my opinion, very good given the circumstances and they testify in the most difficult situation ever faced by the group and the world economy in the recent past, the great solidity that the group has in its structure, technical structure, financial structure, operational structure. We proved in the past our potential to achieve brilliant growth rates. Now we displayed our ability to resist to adverse condition without sacrificing the potential for future growth. The group owes these characteristics and capabilities in 1st place to its employees. They delivered a response of exceptional vital activities dynamic, lively and proactive. Despite the limitation of means and hours available, the payroll protection programs Castenti Grazone were adopted quite extensively. Important research and development projects were completed even in the darkest months, allowing the launch of new products. Relations with customers have been cultivated with a creative and a serious presence on social media, providing information, commercial and training events. The logistic and operational structure together with the auxiliary support functions worked in adverse condition to assure product deliveries and technical support to all our global customers. We can count on this extraordinary wealth to return to record brilliant results also from a financial point of view as soon as the surrounding conditions will allow it. Prior to getting into the details of the financials, our investment plans in the expansion program capacity were still worth I'd like to mention how the investments are going on. I mean, our investment plans in the expansion of production capacity are still worth a few €1,000,000 of investment in this half year since we are completing the plants in Huenjo, Yenorini and Torreon Nunciata. There is also an unscheduled investment coming up in 2021. We have the chance to profit of the availability of the plant adjacent to the new Capalait Penta plant in Prato. We therefore secured a purchase with a preliminary agreement that we signed at the beginning of September. So with a down payment of more or less €500,000 we will be immediately in the condition to use this mill this building as an expansion for our production capacity. And as I mentioned before, production and sales volume for Cap Haitenta are really rocketing in this phase. And we will then close the contract in the 1st weeks of 2021. I remember when presenting our structural expansion investment plan, I was saying that if more investments were to be added in the future, this had to be considered a good thing as it would be a sign of strong demand. And in fact, this is actually the case. And it has also been the case for the extra monies we invested in the plan. We are to date at about €38,000,000 due to the opportunity to further expand capacity in China and in other locations. I'd like to pass the call to Enrico that will, I mean, bring you in the details of our 6 month financials. Thank you. Thank you, Andrea, and good morning to everybody. As usual, I'm going to give you some details on our financials. The first half of twenty twenty closed with a consolidated turnover of EUR 100 and 63,000,000 down 50% compared to the first half of last year. The gross margin stood at EUR 59,900,000, down 19.5% compared to the €74,400,000 on June 2019 due to the decrease in turnover. The impact on turnover decreased from 39.5 percent to 36.8 percent, and it is mainly due to a reduction of profitability in both sectors due to the COVID, even though either in industrial than in medical. The decrease in gross margin percentage in Q2 compared to Q1, it is also due to a greater impact of industrial than medical on total revenue. In fact, medical in Q1 was 73% of the total sales, when in Q2 was 53%. In the after, in Q1 was 27%, and now in Q2 was 47%. Because of that, the gross margin percentage in Q1 2020 was 43%, while in Q2 2020 was only 42%. Operating costs amounted to EUR 16,000,000, down compared to the EUR 21,500,000 on June 2019, and their incidents on turnover reduced from 11% to 10%. The savings derived mainly from the limitation to travel and from the cancellation of all fair and congress events as well as the reduction in the volume of activities. The amount of staff cost on June was equal to EUR 29,300,000 compared to the EUR 32,300,000 of last year, A reduction in double cost, as already mentioned by Andrea, is mainly due to the government payroll protection programs, such as Castiglazione in Italy, used in France, Germany and in Italy too. EBITDA was EUR 14,500,000, down by 29.7 percent compared on €20,600,000 of H1 of last year and with an impact on sales of 8.9% compared to 10.9%. Amortization and other accruals increased due to the important investment made in 2019 and the provision for bad debt increase compared to each one 2019 to represent in the most balanced way the possible deterioration of some credit positions. In the 1st 6 months, the total amount of fixed cost, operating cost, tough cost and depreciation decreased in total value, in line with the drop on sales, and impact on sales was around 31% as for H1 2019. EBIT marked a positive balance of EUR 9,300,000, down from the EUR 16,700,000 with an impact on sales of 5.7% and with a reduction of 3% mainly due to the reduction in gross margin. Net tax result was EUR 8,900,000 with a negative effect of ForEx and a negative contribution of associated companies. Net income was €6,400,000 compared to the EUR 10,200,000 of last year with a tax rate of 24% that benefited of a tax reduction allowed to Italian company on IRAP income taxes to face the COVID emergencies. Group's net financial position had a positive balance of EUR 27,900,000 compared to the EUR 61,400,000 at the beginning of the year and to the EUR 27,500,000 at the end of Q1. About EUR 20,000,000 cash was employed in the acquisition of an important minority stake in Pentel as a Wenzhou in China. And the increase in net working capital led to an absorption of liquidity of approximately EUR 20,000,000 mainly due to the increase in the value of inventories. The amount of investment in technical fixed asset was around EUR 5,000,000, down from the last year. And investment in the expansion of production structure are, in fact, less than the previous year since most of the new structures are completed or in the completion fees. The overall decrease of 13.8% in total turnover was due to a reduction in medical sector of 10.5% and in the industrial sector of 18.5%. And in Q2 2020, the trend in turnover between medical and industrial was antithetic compared to Q1 2020, when medical sector grew of 7% in Q2 minuteus 25% and industrial sector drop of 44% in Q1 when grew 1% in Q2 2020. In Medical Sector, the minor contraction in turnover recorded in the Aesthetic and Service segment, decreasing by 8% 7%, respectively, stems from the positive trend in Japan and one of the most important markets in which the group operates. The Surgery segment also suffered the impact of the downturn due to the sudden focus of all hospital activities on COVID patients. It showed revenues for EUR 19,900,000 compared to the EUR 23,300,000 over the same period of 2019 with a reduction of 14 The Therapy segment recorded at an over €3,300,000 compared to the €5,400,000 in the same period last year. Industrial sector showed in Q2 a strong recovery since compared to the Q1. The sector benefited in particular recovering internally in China, the sheet metal cutting segment, even though in the 1st 6 months 2020, we had a decline of 23%. And of the very good performance of Carla Ipenta, thanks to a high level of demand and with the COVID effect limited to the period of forced closure. In fact, Kartalay Penta registered an increase in turnover in the 6 months. The overall turnover of the segment for the 6 months was €49,000,000 compared to the €58,000,000 over the same period of last year with a decrease of 16%. In Q1, the decrease was around 50%. The marketing sector underwent a trend similar to sheet metal capping, but in which the decline was wider in the 2nd quarter. To know where in each one, 2020 was EUR 7,600,000 compared to the EUR 9,300,000 of each one last year with a reduction of 18%. Similarly to the sales of system, also the after sales service suffered a significant slowdown. Looking to the distribution of revenues by geographical areas, we see that in the rest of the world, we had a decline in industrial due to China, while in medical, we had a group of 1%, thanks to the excellent performance of Japanese and American markets. In Italy, we had a good performance in industrial, thanks to catalyzed Penta, while in the medical, the freezing of activities in the medical and professional beauty sector hit Italy and closed a contraction of 37 percent net turnover of €9,900,000 compared to the 15,800,000 euros in each one last year. In Europe, both sectors showed a decline even though higher in Medical than in Industrial. Andrea, please go ahead. Okay. So today, to summarize and give you, let's say, an idea of what is expecting us in the coming months. We can confirm the gradual recovery of demand volumes and therefore of results. And I said that those results are quite satisfying given the circumstances. Of course, the overall volume of demand has not yet reached the levels of last year and it is still made uncertain and unstable by the limitation in place and above all by the uncertainties due to the development of the pandemic and its effects on economy. Therefore, the overall situation of the markets in which the group is active remains weak. It will not be possible to fill the gap with 2019 results. We expect sales volumes and operating results to improve in the second half compared to the first half, but still at lower levels than those recorded in 2019. In the presence of current market condition, trusting that there will be no further repercussions and restrictions, we aim for the full 2020 year to contain within 10% the decrease in turnover compared to 2019, improving EBIT margin on sales in the second half compared to the first half. So thank you for being with us. We are done with the presentation and we are ready for your questions. Excuse me. This is the Chorus Call conference operator. We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question is from Francois Robillard of Intermonte. Please go ahead. Hi, good afternoon everybody. Thank you for taking my question. First one is on guidance. So the target is rather clear. However, can you give us some more color on the breakdown of how you are trying to achieve this contained revenue decrease? I mean, compared to H1 trends, what can we expect as well on a year on year basis in both Medical and Industrial? And which segments are expected to perform better? You talked about Catlight Penta doing well. Will it be the main growth driver in the second half? And second question, coming back on what Andreas stated about CapEx going forward, can you give us just a reminder of your CapEx targets for expansion in the second half of the year and in 2021? Thank you very much. Thank you, Francois, for the question. Concerning our expectation for the second half, you are correct. The recovery in terms of revenue was much stronger in Industrial than in Medical. And so we expect and from what we have seen to date, a very strong second half in the industrial business, which compared to 2019 will have better results in terms of turnover. We also expect a recovery in medical in absolute value, but of course, we are facing a very, very challenging half because the second half of twenty nineteen has been extremely brilliant in medical. So for this reason, we plan and we know that we'll do better than the first half. But as I mentioned before, it will be very hard to match the 20 19 results. This will be an effect on profitability too, because as in the second 3 months, the recovery industrial has been very strong, high volumes, but also lower margins. And for this reason, the overall EBIT margin cannot be expected to be comparable to the EBIT margin of the second half of twenty nineteen. Moreover, we are also going to be hit by the unfavorable development of the foreign exchange rate with the U. S. Dollar that lost about 10 points. I mean, we were around 1.1 and now we are around 1.2. The United States had been a significant market this year. And unfortunately, this drop in the U. S. Dollar value will, of course, not dramatically, but will hit our margins. About CapEx, I said that we were going to have huge reduction of CapEx this year. This is what's going on. I believe the CapEx of this year altogether will not be more than would be slightly would be lower than €10,000,000 but I would expect something closer to $7,000,000 between $7,000,000 and $8,000,000 in 2021, we should have a slowdown on the real estate on the real estate investments. But now what I just told you is that we'll have this $5,000,000 for the new pentathlon that will hit H1 2020 21. So probably in 2021, the total CapEx will be a little bit over EUR 10,000,000. Thank you. Just to follow-up on the top line guidance. Is it so it's inclusive of the FX effect of foreign exchange effect? Yes, yes. Of course, yes. The top line, we already when we deliver this guidance, we are already aware that the dollar I mean, we make our calculation with the dollar at 1.2. Okay. Thank you. The next question is from Pierre Castella of GMP. Go ahead. Yes. Hi, guys. Thank you very much for taking my question. A quick one on receivables. What's the situation like regarding receivables? Do you see any deterioration there? And is it more difficult in medicals, in particular, to get those bills paid? Thank you. No. We don't see any sharp change in the way we collect our receivables. We actually use a more prudent approach in the calculation of the reserves for uncollectible receivables, this also, let's say, being compliant to our guidance, which has been released by the auditing principle body, which I don't remember the name, but I mean, ESMA, by ESMA. And so there's more, let's say, allowance, which hits in the depreciation, amortization and allowance line of the P and L. But for the moment, we haven't seen any real problem. As I told you before, I am a little bit concerned because of what can happen when all those more authorities will be over. There are several customers which are in this moment not paying their monthly installment to the leasing companies because by a state, by a government, let's say, resolution, they the leasings and the banks are not asking for the monthly installments. At the first moment, it was until September 30. Now I believe it's until January 31. So we live in a sort of bubble under this point of view. This could, in particular, affect one segment where we work, which is the professional beauty segment. And for this reason, we were specifically, let's say, aggressive in the uncollectible receivable allowance in that specific sector. But I don't see it as a great problem in general terms. Thank you. You're welcome. The next question is from Katarina Rasse of Berenberg. Please go ahead. Hello. Hi, Andrea. Hi, Enrico. This is Carolina from Berenberg Asset Management. I have three questions, if I may. So first of all, regarding the operating leverage. So if I'm not mistaken, your sales decline in Q2 was roughly similar to that you generated in Q1. However, the operating leverage seems much stronger. So could you please give more color on that? And then, talking about the inventory, which was the main driver for the increase in the net working capital, I'd also be interested in a bit more details on the inventory increase. And then talking about the pricing environment in industrial in China, I'd just be curious to better understand whether this yes, you now need to adapt to this new level of pricing and what is the strategy for this going forward? Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Catarina. Leverage, yes, you're right. Leverage was much higher in Q2 because in Q2, we had a great help I mean, a great cost reduction on our fixed costs. We had extensive use of the payroll protection programs, Castel de Gracione, which reduced the payroll cost in Italy, in Germany, in France, and cost was reduced materially. Also, since we are not working at full throttle, we had less cost for, let's say, all the management by objectives because the targets were not met. And we had less cost for also the, how you say, extra hours. People are not working for x hours. So there was a great expense, great saving in the employees expense. Then we had a great saving compared to normal with all the commercial expenses because we couldn't do any traveling, couldn't do no congresses, we could I mean, so we are stuck at home. So leverage was I mean, so fixed costs were much lower. Fixed costs will be will return to normal in Q3 or almost to normal for what concerns payroll expense, it will be still a little bit lower because still we are not running at full level. So And also we will still have reduced commercial, if And also we will still have reduced commercial expenses, though we'll start we start attending to some fair. I mean, we are attending today to the Beijing Industrial Laser Fair. We attend to the Shanghai Industrial Laser Fair next week. So something is going to start moving, but still not in full. So we were able to get the same result in terms in absolute value due to the very significant savings we had in certain costs aggregates. Inventory. Inventory was at the real top at the end of Q1. We had a little bit of reduction in Q2 still. I mean, the levels are quite important because as it always happens, we had inventory to certain item, they block the order for the item and they want something else. And so we had to buy and purchase goods to manufacture things that were not originally scheduled, while we have longer materials that stayed longer inventory. I don't see sincerely any real problem in inventory on the midterm. We don't have anything which we won't be able to use. Of course, this holds always under the assumptions that the activity will be back to normal or close to normal and there won't be any really return to a very strong lockdown situation. 3rd question, the pricing change in China. The pricing change in China has been quite strong. After the end of the lockdown, we are manufacturing at very high volumes, but at lower prices. This was quite evident in the Q2 financials of our Chinese business, which were able to sell and to have revenues higher than the corresponding quarter of 2019, but we're with a very low profitability. We have various kind of countermeasures. We, let's say, negotiated better terms for laser source purchase, and we will see a significant reduction in laser source cost in Q3 and Q4. And we launched a comprehensive cost reduction plan, which was actually launched in the very first days after the recovery, which will be effective with its results basically in Q4 2020. And so we hope and we count to have an increase of margins in the Chinese business from the lower level. We are now in Q4 and in H and in the second half of the year. Okay, understood. And also understood that it's, I mean, a continuous struggle in China. But do you think that you can return back to the attractive EBIT margin levels that you had previously in China? I think that if the market maintains its status. And we have good elements to think that we will be able to increase volumes at higher volumes, we could again take advantage of a leverage effect and become profitable as we were before. But we need good demand because at this point, the Chinese business with its 3, let's say, production site and 4 factories needs to have significant volume in order to be able to grab the leverage than the scale savings and the leverage. Okay. Understood. And sorry, just one follow-up. So did the chance, so to say, to grab this operating leverage change? So implying that due to COVID-nineteen, has the competitive environment changed in China? I mean, the competition has been sharper. We depends also on the mix. In the Q2, we sold a number of systems that we had never sold in any quarter before, not even in Q4 2019. We launched a few products which are fully Chinese manufactured. And so these products, which are fully Chinese, have a lower margins. And we though we had an increase in the sales of the higher margin, let's say, hybrid systems, which are manufactured in China but have several European components, their impact on the total was reduced. Moreover, the recovery was purely Chinese, let's say, event. And last year, China had about 10% of sales to the surrounding countries. And this year, this percentage is probably down to 1% because the recovery is a Chinese event. And since, let's say, international sales out of China bear a larger higher margins, also this effect is expected to hit back again when we will be able to return to decent sales volumes in international sales. And this is going on slowly, it's going on. While the Chinese recovery was extremely quick, the rest of the world recovery was slower. But again, I see a positive trend and the positive trend and how positive this trend will be will also depend on how the other economies will continue to recover in their volumes in their economies in the rest of this year and then in 2021. Okay, great. Thank you very much. You're welcome. The next question is a follow-up from Pierre Castella of GMP. Please go ahead. Yes, thank you very much. Sorry for that. I've got 2 little questions here. The first one is on the net capital employed of close to €200,000,000 Can you give us an idea of the split between the two divisions of that capital employed? And the second question is, considering that you have consumed about €35,000,000 of cash in the first half, Can you give us a feel of what you expect taking into account the land acquisition and so on? What you expect for the second half in terms of cash consumption or generation? Thank you. We I don't know. Maybe Rico can give you the amount. I believe in the financials, we have a segment reporting, which can give you the exact detail. I don't know it here and I know it by heart, but you can find it in the financial report. About cash generation, we believe that the second half as always and also in this 2019 should be a better half than the first half in terms of cash generation. And so we expect that the normal operations will lead to an increase of the net financial position. €5,000,000 €10,000,000 really in this moment, Given the current guidance, I could say that we could expect a $5,000,000 a $5,000,000 increase, but really we are not in the condition to precisely model because we don't know also how the sales will hit and so also the receivables and the inventory will hit the P and L and when exactly, I mean, if in December or in November, this would make a change. But generally speaking, I see the trend, which is positive. I see our strength on the market. I see us coming back to a good generation of cash in the second half. Thank you. In terms of capital employed, the capital employed is highly medical, around EUR 150,000,000 and compared to the industrial, around EUR 70,000,000, EUR 80,000,000 more or less. The next question is from Andrea Bonpar of Banca Accruz. Please go ahead. Hello, good afternoon to everybody. Andrea. I was thinking if you can just speak on behalf of consumer attitude across the globe and, let's say, you're climbing the medical aesthetical on, let's say, on the exemption of activity and treatment. For sure, medical and the aesthetical is more affected by, let's say, social distancing and all major to contain the coronavirus pandemic. So if you can just elaborate on that. If you think it's the final customer, which are, let's say, would take time to return or our clients, which are skeptical, unordinary right now. That's it for the time being. Thank you. Thank you for the question, Andrea. It's not easy to answer the question because I can answer exactly, give you what we see where we go direct, where we have distributors. I mean, there is an interface, which is not always completely transparent to us. So we don't know the exact behavior of the customer. What we have noticed here, there are several things that have been noticed in consumer behavior. First, an incredible reaction by many of them that jumped into aesthetic parlors in order to make treatments that are willing to make I mean to react to the long lockdown period by spending more in aesthetics. And this is quite awkward. The aesthetic sector is less heard, for instance, than the therapy sector. Even though we read that, for instance, athletes in this moment are much more hurt than usual because after a few months of inactivity, they are more exposed to injuries. Our therapy sector has been suffering in the last month more than the aesthetic sector. In the aesthetic sector, we had peaks of consumption, for instance, in Italy. In Italy, we did extremely well in the medical sector in July and also in August, which can be justified only on a very particular psychological reaction to the lockdown in the post COVID area. Generally speaking, all over the world, I believe that this kind of reaction is quite widespread. But nevertheless, we sell capital equipment. And so in order to for a doctor to face an investment, you need to be a little bit more confident in what's going on in the near future. In Italy, I believe we are quite confident. In other countries, I mean, the pending limitation are still limiting the purchases to be at the same level as 12 months ago. For what concerns the surgical business, theoretically, we're expecting a good behavior in demand because I mean surgical procedures do not depend on anything that has been hurt by COVID. If one has a kidney stone, so one has an enlarged prostate, it doesn't depend on the economic cycle. Nevertheless, also in this COVID hit us because the hospital structures are focused on COVID and they in this moment simply for several months did not consider other disciplines and therefore they slow down purchases also on other segments. I believe this will last quicker because quicker than we will see a full recovery in other segments because actually also the full focus on COVID will go away again always unless the situation worsens. So this is more or less what we perceive in this moment. Okay. Thank you very much. You're welcome. So we can close the conference. Andrea? Yes. So thank you everybody for attending. We will be attending a few conferences on a virtual basis in the next weeks. I know some of you has already enrolled. If there are already there are still spaces, you could contact Bianca and because we will be available for 1 to 1 meetings in the next week for at least a couple of times. Thank you again for attending the call and have a nice day. Thank you. Thank you so much to everything. Bye. Bye bye to everyone. Bye. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining. The conference is now over. You may disconnect your telephone. Thank you.