Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon, and welcome to the earnings conference call of HeidelbergCement India Limited for the quarter and year ended 31st March 2026, hosted by PhillipCapital India Private Limited. As a reminder, all participant lines will remain in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchtone telephone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now hand the conference over to Mr. Vaibhav Agarwal from PhillipCapital India Private Limited for opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you.
Thank you, Ryan. Good afternoon, everyone. On behalf of PhillipCapital India Private Limited, we welcome you to the earnings call for the quarter and year ended 31st March 2026 of HeidelbergCement India Limited. On the call we have with us Mr. Joydeep Mukherjee, Managing Director, Mr. Anil Sharma, Chief Financial Officer, and Mr. Amit Angra, Head Investor Relations and Senior Vice President Finance of HeidelbergCement India Limited. I would like to mention on behalf of HeidelbergCement India Limited and its management that certain statements that may be made or discussed on today's conference call may be forward-looking statements related to future developments and which are based on current management expectations. These statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties, and other important factors which may cause the actual developments and results to differ materially from the statements made.
HeidelbergCement India Limited and the management of the company assumes no obligation to publicly alter or update these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information or future events or otherwise. HeidelbergCement India Limited has uploaded a copy of the Q4 and FY 2026 investor presentation on their website and stock exchanges. Participants may download a copy of the presentation on these websites. I'll now hand over the floor to the management of HeidelbergCement India Limited for their opening remarks, which will be followed by interactive Q&A. Thank you, over to you, Joydeep, sir.
Thank you. Amit, will you be operating the slides on our side, please? Thank you. I'll start off with the key messages. We continue to produce mostly blended cement in our operations. This is in line with our commitments to producing low-carbon cement across our operations. Our alternative fuel usage also increased by 3% year-on-year. We are now at 11% at a company level. Our share of non-grid power exceeded 50% during the FY. The EBITDA at INR 584 per tonne was up 10% year-on-year. We did repay interest-free loan of INR 687 million. The company is now completely debt-free. We have cash and bank balance of INR 4,037 million. We continue to operate on negative net operating working capital. We have been declared as the preferred bidder for grant of two mining leases in Madhya Pradesh.
This was a strategic move and a forward-looking move. We did recommend a dividend of INR 7 per share in our board meeting recently concluded. Okay. The ESG overview, 97% of all the cement that we produce are blended cement. On carbon, we are now less than 500 kgs per tonne of cement, and this number is going down quickly. This is also because we have been working on modifying our product portfolio so that it falls in line with our overall strategy of reducing our carbon footprint. On water positivity, we are at 4.8x water positive. As far as CSR is concerned, we have touched 21,000+ lives during this financial year and improved the lives. We are at more than 40% of green power in our overall power portfolio. As far as our financial results are concerned, it has been already circulated.
Broad messages in this are that we are about 19.8% higher on EBITDA as compared to last year. At the PAT level, we are 35.5% higher. Our sales volume increased by 8.8% over the last year. On EBITDA per tonne too, we are about 10.2% higher. On a quarter basis, we had impact on pricing. There was pressure on pricing. We lost about INR 105 at the gross price level, and we had a INR 53 impact on raw material and a INR 25 negative impact on others. We did have some positives in terms of coal and fuel and trade. Overall, QOQ our decrease in prices were only partially offset by input costs. On a year basis, our EBITDA increased. This was mainly due to a decrease in input costs on a year basis, so the impact on price was lesser as compared to the quarterly basis.
We did lose about INR 16 overall on price. There was an impact of INR 11 on raw material. We had positive gains on power and fuel, freight, and other expenses. On a per ton basis, the EBITDA increased from INR 530- INR 584. This is for the complete FY. On working capital, as I've said before, nothing to add. We continue to operate on negative working capital. In case there are any particular questions on the data already produced, we can address them during the rest of the call. We have been pretty consistent in terms of our dividend. This is driven by our operational cash flow. On a face value of INR 10 per share, we have now proposed a 7% dividend for the FY.
On our share of volume, we can say that about 45% of our total volumes are dispatched to road. This is up by 1% on a year-on-year basis. AFR, I have already spoken about 11%, this is up by 3% on a year-on-year basis. Premium products portfolio, we are working on this and have been working on this consistently as a strategy for the last three years. I am very happy to state that we have achieved the number of 62%, 62% of our total trade volumes come from premium products. This is up by 9% on a year-on-year basis. As far as the trade mix is concerned, we are at a 81% trade sale number. This is through trade retail sale, and we can say 19% is our B2B sale of the total mix.
We are consistently and continuously increasing premiumization, and we are optimizing our trade non-trade mix. On outlook, going forward, I can say the upcoming elections in Uttar Pradesh is going to provide a lot of impetus to cement demand in central India. We are of course now heading into the monsoon season where naturally the consumption shall be a little low. Post-monsoon and carrying on till the elections in our relevant market, we expect very good demand. The geopolitical developments, particularly the West Asia conflict, is continuing to create uncertainty in global markets and commodity prices. We've already had some impact on petcoke and fuel prices. I'm very hopeful and confident that this impact shall be passed on to the market as we have seen across other industries. Elevated headline inflation and currency depreciation does remain a concern.
At the same time, there are tailwinds of increase in cement consumption in the medium term as well as long term. Because of robust domestic consumption, as well as the rationalization of the GST rate from 28%- 18% which was done last year. We do not see a problem with demand going forward. Yes, for some time, headline inflation and currency depreciation would remain a matter which needs to be monitored very closely, especially if a company has significant expenditure on imports. The El Niño effect that we are seeing, the heat wave sweeping through the northern part of India and the central part of India, would pose a significant risk to agricultural output, rural demand, and food inflation. With the advent of monsoon, a large part of this is expected to be mitigated.
As I've said before, I am confident, even though with a little bit of lag, the increase in input prices, we shall definitely be able to pass on to the customers. I think that's all from my side. I'll now hand over the floor over to Vaibhav and to my team for the further question and answer session.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use their handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. We take the first question from the line of Rajesh Ravi from HDFC Securities. Please go ahead.
Hello. Am I audible?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah. Hi, sir. Sir, just wanted to understand, what is your clinker production in FY 2026?
You're talking about the full year or quarter?
Full year.
We produce around 3.05 million ton total clinker production during the fiscal.
Okay. Did we also buy and sell clinker from outside?
During the quarter.
During the year, did we sell clinker also?
Yes. We have not bought any clinker. Our own clinker quantity is sufficient for the cement. Yes, we sometimes do sell clinker, but that is not so significant.
Understood. Sir, if we look at your number, 3.05 million tons, we operated at almost 95% utilization in FY 2026. What sort of volume growth one can look at on the existing capacity over next 2 years?
Yes.
Our CC ratio also seems to have come down from peak of around 1.6- 1.65. It is now down to 1.5. What is the way ahead?
Rajesh, if you see our total cement grinding capacity, it is around 6 million tons. At this moment, you are right that we are running around 90%-95% capacity. At the same time, like Mr. Mukherjee said, that we are optimizing our product portfolio. We are also reducing our clinker content so that we can reduce CO2 emission, as well as it gives us the further headroom to grind more cement. We can say that, okay, at this moment, we have sufficient headroom for next one or two years, and we expect that our cement volume growth should be similar to what the cement demand growth in the market, especially in this area.
What would be our cement to clinker ratio, sir, in Q4 and FY 2026?
Our clinker consumption ratio is around 60%-61% of the cement, and I think we will be able to reduce at least maybe 50 basis points or maybe 100 basis points in the FY.
Okay.
Yeah. Just to elaborate and add on, we've launched a new blended cement where the clinker content is almost 17% lower, and we are continuously ramping up production on the same. We don't think it is going to be an issue at least for the next couple of years.
What is this product? 17% lower clinker you're saying?
Yeah. It's a composite cement.
Composite cement. Okay.
Yeah.
What are the cost levers you're looking at, given that the industry is also reeling under almost INR 300-INR 400 cost inflation by Q2? In that scenario, there are any cost levers where your company.
Are you asking about the next quarter?
For H1, given the industry is looking at INR 300-INR 400 cost increase because of the surge in fuel costs and the packaging material. In that, obviously, part of it is passed on. Overall, do we have any green power share going up or any other cost metric which can give you cushion against the cost inflation?
Look, we anticipate that in the near term, the next quarter, our cost would be impacted by anywhere between INR 100 to INR 160 a ton.
This is Q1, you're saying?
Given our fuel mix and everything. The packaging bags, the impact which was there has now substantially reduced.
What we are looking at is about anywhere between INR 100-INR 160 a ton, which we are confident can be passed on.
Understood. Any target on the green power mix, how has that been in FY 2026, and how would that be in FY 2027, 2028?
Okay. Amit, could you maybe put together the question, please.
Rajesh, we have been working. If you see our presentation where we talked about our green power percentage, it has increased to exceed the 40%, and we have been working further to increase it. Yes, it is a continuous process. If you ask that, okay, there will be significant increase beyond this, answer is no. Yes, there will be some small improvement there in the green power. Come down the line 2026, 2027, 2028, our target to increase beyond 40%. One lever we talk about, and we also said in past, that we have the good flexibility with respect to fuel mix.
We consume petcoke as well as coal, and whenever the petcoke prices or coal prices move in the direction which is not maybe favorable to us, immediately we either decrease or increase our petcoke and fuel consumption. In the Q1 June quarter 2027, if the price of the petcoke will remain at elevated level as it today, we will further optimize our fuel mix. That will give us the benefit. That's why in our case, the impact will not be like INR 300 what the industry talks about. Our impact may be around INR 150 on account of this petcoke and the diesel.
Understood, sir. What is the linkage coal share in our fuel basket, sir?
It is sufficient. We need not to go to the open market in significant quantity. Our existing one support us for our clinker production.
Understood. Yeah, that is why your inflationary expectation is lower. Understood. Sir, two things, just one on the Dalmia winning the JP assets now, and they expect to operationalize it fully from Q2 onwards, thereby bringing almost 5 million ton of additional volume pressure in the market. What is the thought process on that in terms of you being one of the central and eastern markets, being one of the key markets? Second, what are the CapEx program which we are looking at? You had talked earlier or Heidelberg had plans to expand into Gujarat market, but we haven't heard anything on that front. Any major expansions which is in the pipeline over next two, three years?
Yeah. We are setting up, and you might have seen in media, a blending unit in Khandwa. This is expected to give us about 35,000 tons of extra cement from that unit. That is immediate. That project is on right now.
As we speak. We are investing around INR 120-INR 130 or you can take about INR 130 crores in that project.
Sorry, 130 what?
Sorry, I didn't get you.
130 crore.
130 crore.
130 crore, okay.
Yeah. Other than that, as I said, mentioned, we have also been declared as the preferred bidder for grant of mining lease. We have a limestone block in an area of about 350 hectares in Rewa and Satna. This gives us 62 million tons of cement grade limestone.
There's another block, over 350 acres in Satna again, which has about 105 million tons of cement grade limestone. We are the preferred bidders for that.
Obviously, this is all keeping in view the future expansions, but I will not be able to reveal right now on the exact plan.
Understood.
As of today, what I'm in a position to reveal and confirm is our blending unit at Khandwa.
Understood. Anything on the Gujarat plans, which the company had earlier talked about that they would look to?
No, we are still awaiting clearance from the government.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Understood.
It is not in our hand right now.
Understood. I'll come back. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. Participants, please press star and one to ask a question. We have a question from the line of Vaibhav Agarwal from PhillipCapital India Private Limited. Please go ahead.
Yeah, thank you. Sir, I had a question on basically on the pricing. You said in your opening remarks that you're not able to pass on the pricing to the extent of cost push in Q1, and even in Q4, pricing has been slightly under pressure. Sir, in this regard, as far as we gather, North and West have been quite stable or better off in pricing versus Central India, and Central India has been suffering from a low pricing for quite a long time now. What is the key reason? Is it the commissioning of new clinker lines by our competition? What is actually dragging it because if the neighboring pricing is relatively better off, then what are the key reasons for pricing to be subdued in your geography? That's my first question.
Vaibhav, this is pretty normal. You see wherever companies bring in capacity-
for some time, the prices do remain under pressure. We've had JK expanding in our region. We've had a Zuari Cement operation which has gone online. We've got extra material from UltraTech, who are ramping up their capacity utilization in the same area. Right now, Central is no longer-
The question was, actually Central India has been under pricing pressure for quite some time now, for maybe last three, four quarters, and this is not going away. That's the reason I was.
No, I have not understood.
No, I'm saying in terms of pricing, when you were saying that you will be able to pass on the cost push in Q1, you're confident of it. The pricing is under pressure, then in that parlance, I'm asking the question that what gives you the confidence that you will be able to pass on the cost push?
The cost push would be on everyone, right? If this is not passed on, then all the balance sheets are going to start looking pretty bad. Historically, we have seen that if there is a serious cost increase, it always gets passed on. Which is why if you have noted my earlier comment, I have said albeit with a lag.
Right.
Different companies would have different kind of stocks and tie-ups of fuel. As soon as that cushion is gone.
Right
It will start hurting. Obviously, people at 150 million tons, 180 million tons and 100 million tons, for them, the impact on their balance sheet is significantly higher. Sanity says that this will always happen.
Sir, structurally from going forward from here on, maybe say for the next one year or two years, how would you see overall Central India pricing assuming expansions go on? JK Cement, like we mentioned, have commissioned. There will be some new plants also coming in. As your understanding, structurally, how will pricing move in Central India for the next one to two years? How would you see that?
I think if you're going to look at the next one year, I am pretty confident that it is going to follow what is happening in north.
Okay.
Okay. Because most of the northern players are also suppliers to Central. As you also know, there are no islands of prosperity in cement.
You're right.
There is always a spillover from one region to the other region. A parity keeping in terms, keeping view of where the cement plants are and where the markets are, is going to come in. I'm going to be cautious enough to say that, yes, for maybe the next quarter and before the monsoon ends, the prices will be under a little bit of pressure. I wouldn't say that is going to be a complete killjoy because there is also now the big burden of the cost push. I'm sure to the extent of the cost push, the industry would be able to pass it on. Beyond that, if you're asking structurally, is there going to be how much on top of that is crystal ball gazing. I'm not able to answer that question right now.
Understood, sir. Sir, second question was on your, like you said your opening remark that you were highly dependent on imports. From that perspective.
I didn't say we are. I didn't say we are dependent.
Industry. Okay. I thought that you said. As far as HeidelbergCement India goes, sir, how much is the import component or what is our fuel mix as of now, if you can just spell it out?
I think, Vaibhav, we do not import.
Nothing imported. That's what I want to clarify. There's no imported fuel.
No, not at all. Nothing.
Right. Sir, third was on your merger of Yeah.
Vaibhav, just to add on the pricing what Mr. Joydeep Mukherjee said.
Right.
I think also appreciate one fact that the highest consumption state in India, UP, is going to be on election in next one year.
Yeah.
For it is predominantly Central India players. That will support significantly on the demand of the cement and that should support us with respect to the pricing because we have been selling cement and our target is to increase volume, either blended cement or our nearby focus market or home market. We are pretty confident and positive that we will be able to pass on the cost increase, at least cost increase to market.
In that perspective, what is your demand outlook for FY 2027, FY 2028 for Central India and for HeidelbergCement, just in case if you have any guidance?
I'm sure that this fiscal too in Central, the industry would grow at least by 7%- 7.5%.
Okay. That is in line to the overall pan-India demand growth.
Yeah. I think by the beginning of the next calendar year, as we approach elections, it's going to get ramped up to maybe a little bit more. I'm saying on an average, seven, 7.5% is not too much to expect.
That's a given that 7.5% will happen as per you.
Yeah.
Okay. Sir, you have been indicating about, in the past, there is no talk off late, but in the past, you have indicated about possible merger of Zuari and Heidelberg. Any thoughts on that?
Well, again, I said it's a timing issue. If you would know, there have been some publications that have come out in the media also. We are of course building a 3 million ton integrated cement plant in Karnataka.
Right.
That is now underway.
Right.
Which of course is not part of this company as of now.
Yeah.
Depending on the suitable time, yes, there are plans of eventually going in for a merger of all the entities.
Sir, any timeline which you can probably think of, maybe two years, three years?
Right now, I would be hesitant to spell out a timeline.
Understood. Sir, last question was on your blending unit. What would be your CapEx guidance for FY 2027, FY 2028 in terms of overall CapEx for HeidelbergCement India?
Vaibhav, I think we have already said.
65.
It will split into two fiscal year 2027-2028 part energy.
Right.
Then 2027- 2028. INR 134 crore put together in two years we are going to invest in that blending.
65 each year, is that fair or the first year would be light and second year would be heavier? Okay.
Yeah. First year would be lighter. It will be more backloaded because first year we will not need some of the capital.
This blending unit, I'm sure that it will not form for part of your capacity, right? The capacity will remain at about 6 million in terms of the overall capacity for HeidelbergCement India. Would you take it as an additional capacity or would you keep your rated capacity the same?
Rated our capacity, like we said it around 30,000- 35,000 ton per month, the cement capacity will increase.
Right. Can we presume that this would increase your rated capacity to that extent, 35,000 tons per month, which converts about 0.4 million tons per annum?
Cement output capacity, yes. As of now, we find it difficult to approach that market because Damoh is quite far from that part of the market.
Okay. Sir, last, your volume guidance, you have done 1.35 in this quarter, which is the highest ever Heidelberg has done. Since you're optimistic on demand, can we achieve a 90% utilization for FY 2027 or maybe FY 2028? Are you confident of retaining these kind of volumes for upcoming quarters, obviously in peak demand periods?
On a yearly basis, yes. I think quarter on quarter it's a little difficult to predict.
Understood. Okay. We have questions from participants in the queue. I will just hand it over to Ryan for that.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Participants, please press star and one to ask a question. We take the next question from the line of Shravan Shah from Dolat Capital. Please go ahead.
Hi, sir. Thank you. Couple of questions. Sir, just to clarify, when we are seeing the industry in Central India to grow at 7%-7.5%, for us, in terms of the official volume target, would it be the similar 7%-7.5%? That's what we are looking at?
I have not understood your question. Are you saying are we forecasting that we should be also growing by the similar number? Is that what you're asking?
Yes.
We shall be in line with the industry growth in our region.
Okay.
Obviously, we cannot exceed that because, as you know, we are nearing our complete capacity utilization.
Yeah.
We shall be in line with the growth.
Yeah. Just to get a number clear, in terms of the cement capacity as on today is 5.95 million tons, the Imlai and Jhansi, these two units. In terms of the clinker capacity, is it 3.23 because some debottlenecking at Damoh was supposed to happen? Just wanted to confirm the number.
Yeah, the debottlenecking has happened. The capacity is going to come. The debottlenecking exercise is over.
What's the current clinker capacity? Is it 3.23 million or 3.1 million?
Our clinker capacity is 3.1 million ton and cement capacity is not 5.95, it is 5.7.
Correct.
In Central India.
Okay. Got it. This both the new, the MP one, whenever we will finalize, let’s say, obviously there also like a Gujarat in terms of all the approvals, environment, everything will be there. Just trying to understand even, let’s say, in next one year also, we’ll start, this will be kind of a three, four year down the line, the actual plant to start.
No. We have already received the CPE. We can expect this project to be completed within 2 years from now, maybe even earlier.
No. This is the Khandwa one you are saying?
Yes.
Yeah. No, I'm saying apart from this, the Gujarat one, let's say, do you think that the environment clearance likely to be there in next six months, one year is possible? Let's say if it comes, post that we start, so will it take another two and a half, three years to actually have cement?
Yes. Obviously post the issue, yes, of course.
Okay. There, in terms of the capacity, the last time we were talking about 2.5, four million tons or still it can change, depends in the time we will-
It can change once we receive the EC and we look at the situation, that will be decided. That is not a number which is very firmly finalized at this point.
This MP two mines that we have won there also, whenever we will add new capacity, that will also be at least four year down the line from today?
It could be earlier. There is nothing like that it's four year down the line. As I said, as of today, I'm not in a position to declare an exact date. We have plans, very firm plans, and we are definitely going to start working on it.
Okay. For this Khandwa unit then we will have to start buying the clinker or still the current at a full utilization?
Our existing clinker would do.
Okay. Sir, just to clarify this cost increase, what you mentioned initially, INR 100-INR 160 odd, just to clarify, say in Q1, we are seeing maybe INR 100-INR 125 odd kind of a cost increase because of the packing bag, diesel and the fuel. Overall in 1H, max INR 160 kind of a cost increase that we can see.
Yes.
Okay. Currently, sir, just two, three data points, the lead distance for fourth quarter and FY 2026, and fuel mix for maybe fourth quarter and FY 2026. That will help us to understand in terms of what you were highlighting that we can save from petcoke to coal.
Our petcoke to coal earlier, it used to be around 60%-65% was the petcoke and remaining coal and alternative fuel. Now during last maybe two, three months, we have reduced the petcoke consumption by around 10%. The coal consumption increased from earlier 30%-40%. That optimization we have already done and hopefully that should continue in June quarter. In terms of your question on lead distance, our lead distance currently is around 373 and 372 km.
This is for the entire FY 2026. What was the number for Q4?
It's more or less the same. Our lead distance has not changed, although during the last maybe 6 months increased around 5 km, but there is no significant increase or decrease in the lead distance.
The kcal cost on a combined put together everything for fourth quarter and FY 2026 is how much?
KKL petcoke already used to be around maybe expensive 10%. Now, currently it is really expensive, 30% over coal. Coal KKL basis is around 1.5 and petcoke now exceeding two, 2.25.
No, I got that petcoke is. What was the actual blended kcal cost for fourth quarter FY 2026 and FY 2026 full year?
Okay. I'm talking about this current prevailing cost price, which is after the escalation or elevation of the petcoke prices. If you talk about only March quarter, the coal cost was below INR 1.5, which is more or less similar now as well, and the petcoke price was around INR 1.9 kcal.
Sir, still I did not get. At the blended level for us for fourth quarter and FY 2026, what was the kcal cost? Everything put together, what was the blended kcal cost?
Blended kcal cost. You're talking about the put together both?
Yeah, put together for fourth quarter FY 2026 and for entire FY 2026.
I need to recheck.
Okay. Got it, sir. Thank you.
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Rajesh Ravi from HDFC Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi, sir. Regarding the clinker debottlenecking, in the last call, you had suggested that the 1.3 lakh ton clinker debottlenecking would be up and running by June quarter, last year June quarter. Now you're saying that it is still due from 3.1- 3.23?
Our debottlenecking project with respect to this clinker, we have already done. This was a particular kiln three, and we have already submitted our application to increase our capacity. We are working on it.
Sorry. While the debottlenecking is done, the capacity approval is pending. Is this what you imply?
We are talking about two things. One is that improvement of the kiln by doing the debottlenecking CapEx, that we have done it. When we talk about the capacity for the government side to get the approval, that we are working on it.
Okay. There is no grinding expansions or debottlenecking we have done. Grinding capacity remains 5.75 and while clinker we have expanded from 3.1- 3.23, the official approval is yet pending.
Yeah, you are right.
Understood. Sir, Karnataka, the unit which you had, which is now defunct and unusable, is there any plan to dispose of that land parcel? Does it have any monetization value which the company would be looking at?
Our Karnataka unit, still we run, albeit it is the lower quantity, but we have been operating it.
You don't count it under your capacity of 5.75, which we assume is 2.5 MP and Jhansi is 3.25. That is why I asked.
Yeah. The capacity of the company is not 5.75. The Karnataka capacity of around half million is also there.
In that case, we are 6.26. Is this the capacity we have?
Yeah.
Okay. There is no grinding debottlenecking which is happening as of now. Only the blending unit that you're setting up in MP, which is 0.4 million ton, which will come up by FY 2028.
Yeah.
Understood. Yeah, that's all from my end. Thank you.
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Jinesh Kothari from Equirus Securities. Please go ahead. Jinesh, if you can please unmute from your end and proceed with your question.
Hello, am I audible? Hello.
Yes.
Hello.
Yeah.
Hi, sir. Can you please provide me with your clinker sale number for FY 2026 and what was there in last year, FY 2025?
That is part of the total sales volume. Already we have reported total sales volume, cement and clinker put together.
Sir, I wanted the clinker volume separately, if I may please have it.
It's difficult to share that number. Thank you.
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Nagaraj Tripali, an individual investor. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon. Am I audible?
Yes, you are.
Yeah. Sir, my suggestion for the company is, instead of going for dividends, very good dividends you are declaring, why don't you go for a share buyback, which will increase the shareholders' value in the long term?
Okay. We have noted down your suggestion. Maybe we will explore in the management committee and we'll discuss in the board of directors meeting, and we'll see. We have declared or we have recommended by the board, and we will submit before the shareholders for their consideration and approval. At the same time, we'll check the share buyback proposal.
Okay. Thank you very much. Good luck.
Thank you. We take the last question from the line of Shravan Shah from Dolat Capital. Please go ahead.
Sir, total for the company as a whole, total CapEx for FY 2027 and for FY 2028 would be how much?
Total CapEx we split into two parts. One is our sustainable CapEx to stay in business. That is in the range of around INR 45-INR 50 crore, and that we do every year. Which is more or less 40% of our annual depreciation. On top of that, we do some improvement CapEx. Today we discuss about this Khandwa blending unit, and there we are going to make it around INR 130 crore in two years. First year, if I take the maybe ballpark number would be 40% of 130, around INR 50 crore. For the fiscal year 2026, 2027, it will be around total INR 100 crore. Next year, subsequent year, it may be around INR 120.
Okay, got it. Sir, did you able to get that blended kcal cost?
We will check it and we'll let you know.
Okay. Thanks.
Thank you.
Are there any other questions?
No, sir. There are no questions in the queue. I will hand the conference over to Mr. Vaibhav Agarwal from PhillipCapital India Private Limited for closing comments.
Yeah. Thank you. On behalf of PhillipCapital India Private Limited, we thank the management of HeidelbergCement India Limited for the call and many thanks to all participants joining the call. I will now conclude the call. Thank you very much, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you.
On behalf of PhillipCapital India Private Limited, that concludes this conference call. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your line.